Thread 40846022

There's a Christian esotericist thread, so I think it would be good to have a thread dedicated to non-Abrahamic esotericism.

>>40846022 (OP)
Bump for interest

>>40846022 (OP)
Get the fuck out you fucking pagan larper, abrahamic mysticism is the only mysticism, even buddhism is based on it
You're just faggot larpers holding on to individuality when the spiritual truth is that you do not exist

>>40846022 (OP)
can someone post the link to the book discussing vajryana w/ the satanic like stuff in it?

>>40847051
I'm with Satan. No larpers here.

>>40847067
>satan
>Literally abrahamic

>>40847069
Jupiter and Saturn are roman gods, Jacob.
You didn't created anything. You copied all your mysticism from hellenic, persian and egyptian sources.
The name Satan do triggers you, though. So it is always good to use, it separates the wheat from the chaff.

>>40847083
Well at least you are abrahamic in spirit, we are all one and pagan ideas of individual spirit must be snuffed out to spite the devil

>>40847057
>>40847067
>S*t*n
Abrahamic. Get out.

>>40847135
Only the individual experience matters.
Real esotericism is always individual. That's why "systems" dont work. They didnt work for philosophy, they dont work for the esoteric.
A "system" imply homogenization, which means people must agree with each other.

>>40847154
>so afraid he uses * to spell the name
Did you look yourself in the mirror today, abrahamic?

>>40847159
The only spirituality is through the ONE god, your experience is just a facet of him, anything else is larp

>>40846022 (OP)
how do you not realize by advertising the thread like this, you will invite trolls who are going to pretend to be "abrahamists" just to instigate a dispute? how long have you been using this website?

>>40847191
There is no god but man.

>>40847191
>The only spirituality is through the ONE god
Amen.

>>40847051
I wasn't referring to paganism.
>abrahamic mysticism is the only mysticism, even buddhism is based on it
Are you high
>holding on to individuality when the spiritual truth is that you do not exist
one of the key parts of the Abrahamic religions is the fundamental existence of the soul

Why do you contradict yourself so much?

There is naught but god, he is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, you have only scratched the surface young padawan, reject yourself and accept only god

There is naught but man, I'm the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, you have only scratched the surface young padawan, reject god and accept only me

>>40847051
/thread

god forbid someone try to create a new thread that isnt just chatgpt slop..

>>40847580
Pagans should just kill themselves, its the fastest way to reunite with god, making threads like this just takes people further from god

would love to hear an argument (mostly epistemic) as for why abrahamic mysticism is the one to be prioritized

>>40847862
I don't need to, every man feels its truth in his very bones, arguing against it at all is therefore intellectually dishonest at its outset

>>40847888
checked and wrecked

>>40847888
well i think some interpretations of christ are nice but at minimum reincarnation has to be in the picture, as it has the most evidence by far. i'm just looking for you to answer my question with compelling evidence or reason

>>40847908
The bible
now never make this thread again

>>40847918
well now you are just doing the larp every christian does "trust my unverifiable historical testimony bro". just give me the evidence lol, i'll take the several types of overlapping spiritual experiences across all belief systems over some book any day of the week

Christcucks are so fragile and their hubris so massive it's absurd. Just like the secular woketards they birthed. Spiritually lobotomized golems. This board is done as long as those faggots are infesting it.

>>40847926
Yes yes yes
The bible
Read it now, it's very powerful and will cure your detestable individuality loving ways

>>40847932
Begone devil! you fool no one!

>>40847932
yeah i'm getting brain damage trying to get them to provide anything compelling, they LITERALLY argue like atheists lmao

>>40847926
I wouldn't take him serious. He seems like a troll trying to make the Christian faith look bad.

>>40847977
yeah i mean it's all good im open to hearing well meaning abrahamics out

>>40847932
You need to remind yourself what website you're using and remind yourself of what the general community is prone to being like before you let such silly internet drama warp your reality of what the Christian faith truly represents. You are blind to your own ignorance.

>>40847984
It's pointless to argue these things. We are talking about something that can never truly be properly argued until you witness that it's true. But then at that point, what's the point of arguing? I could tell you my story, but that's just words on a screen to you. I hope you understand what it is I'm trying to relay to you.

>>40847986
Christcucks online or in real life are all the same. Traitors to their people. Stuck in a semitic spiritual playpen with delusions of somehow being based.

>>40847051
mysticism is of no flavour, it is standing on the self alone. Whatever flavour you sprinkle on it is a matter of taste alone.

>>40848008
Enjoy your ignorance. I lose nothing out of you being this way. All you do is harm yourself. I hope one day you understand.

Christianity points towards a mystical experience that cannot be forced, bought, traded for or stolen. It can only be experienced if the individual is approved.

And that is why it causes so much seethe, because it's people having to come to terms with the fact that they aren't as good of people as they think they are. And instead of acknowledging that, pride takes over and consumes them.

No one further from God than a christcuck. God has nothing to do with any Abrahamic death cults. Absolutely laughable.

>>40848046
you are using good in a overtly arbitrary way, you are basically just saying if they follow the religion they can receive the experiences. rather than saying only good person can receive the experiences. it's just essentially a devotion fetish larping as 'good' person, that's why it causes seethe

>>40848087
None of us get to decide what good is. The only one who does is the one who can grant you the experience.

>>40848102
i agree but at that point it's just a epistemic burden. so until that's fulfilled it's just a my good vs your good

>>40848087
And no, it's not a matter of following a religion to receive something. It's a whole check on the human. We are tested before anything. It's so much more than just following a religion. It's a way of life, it's a life long journey meant to build you up to prepare you for what comes next.

>>40848106
There are no barriers once you receive the gift. But it is a gift that is taken serious and given to those who will be responsible with it. You don't know about anything. Just an outsider thinking they can criticize something they clearly never experienced and clearly don't understand.

>>40848115
obviously its about the religion, otherwise all "good" people would be receiving the "unique" spiritual experiences. if you are saying thats the case, then you'd need to present some kind of plethora of evidence to this end. in reality the spiritual experiences paint a whole different reality compared to anything the Christians are talking about.

like I said though your burden is mostly epistemic at this point, so either stop polemicizing or provide some hard evidence

>>40848102
Yep, only by worshipping god can you be good, nothing else matters

Christcucks have never read Plato, never read Plotinus, and it shows. Those two greeks mog the entirety of Christcuckery. They were who christcucks stole all their ideas from to then pervert/subvert them for the task of levelling and lobotomizing instead of uplifting and ennobling.

>>40848135
You've never read the bible, it mogs plato

>>40848147
I've read the Bible in full. A pathetic Semitic caricature of ideas expressed far more profoundly and beautifully in Plato, Plotinus, and others.

>>40848133
It's not about the religion, or else everyone attending a Church would be able to properly defend their faith from Satan himself. Realistically, however, we can see that simply following the religion isn't enough to get what it points to. You need to delve deeper. Jesus said it Himself
>Not all who say to me Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but those that do the will of my Father who is in Heaven

So it's not just about calling Jesus your God. It's about putting it to practice.

>in reality the spiritual experiences paint a whole different reality compared to anything the Christians are talking about.
You don't know anything in regards to the spiritual aspects of the faith, so how can you claim to argue this in honesty?

>hard evidence
In regards to metaphysical concepts? You're in the wrong place, bud. This is exactly why I said this early in the argument

>>40847993
>It's pointless to argue these things. We are talking about something that can never truly be properly argued until you witness that it's true. But then at that point, what's the point of arguing? I could tell you my story, but that's just words on a screen to you. I hope you understand what it is I'm trying to relay to you.
Clearly, you didn't understand what it was I was trying to subtly point out.

>>40848134
That's solely due to the fact that it's only God who gets to decide what is good, given that He is the one who created Humans and understands us in ways we could never. He knows exactly the perfect conditions we are meant to live in, and while He respects our free will, living a life without God is really pointless. But that's for everyone to decide for themselves and hopefully come to understand eventually.

>>40848153
Nah, if you had you wouldn't have made this gay thread shilling satanic shit
/x/ is a christian board

>>40848153
Reading the Bible is pointless without the Holy Spirit. All you're doing is reading stories. With the Holy Spirit, you are able to read between the lines.

>>40848157
And that is why /x/ is dead. Perhaps one day you will wake up.

>>40848162
Maybe one day you'll read the bible, devil lover

>>40848155
>You don't know anything in regards to the spiritual aspects of the faith, so how can you claim to argue this in honesty?

this is obviously a complete non-sequitur. if there are lots of people having unique experiences specific to christianity it should be documented somewhere. (at least if you want to be convincing)
I'm not surprised you responded with polemics and rhetoric though, maybe one day christians will provide actual evidence instead of read le book xd.

I'm not even mentioning the fact christians basically brush off aliens and most non christian spiritual experiences as "muh demons" or whatever. Christians are literally just atheists from an epistemic perspective, they've chosen an arbitrary epistemic standard and refuse to retrofit the worldview when new evidence comes to light.
No idea how people take Christianity seriously.

>>40848168
>>40848153

>>40848169
>>this is obviously a complete non-sequitur. if there are lots of people having unique experiences specific to christianity it should be documented somewhere.
It is, read the Bible.

>actual evidence
Again, provide for me a method in which how I can prove something that exists beyond what our human senses are capable of perceiving? Even more so, prove something that I don't have direct control over. It's not up to me to be able to prove it to you, it's solely up to God's judgment of you.

>aliens
lol. Let's stick to the topic of discussion, yea?

Imagine basing your entire spiritual foundation upon inter-jewish squabbles from 2000 years ago and then walking around with your head held high as though you were actually based or something. Top fucking kek.

>>40848180
You thrive off rage and anger which is why you keep trying to instigate an argument. You are in desperate need of some self reflection. Go look in the mirror and see how ugly you look.

>>40848185
It's because you faggots have destroyed this board and any genuine conversations here. You deserve all the ire in the world from any actual real anons here in pursuit of truth.

>>40848192
Boo hoo.

I has Question.
Suppose you're offered some esoteric paths. Upon completion, you become an impressive specimen of each path.

You'd have to choose.
a) Path of Demons
b) Path of the Vampire
c) Kitsune's Path
d) Fuck your shit, I'm a Lich path

Which do you think would make you contented? Hypothetically, one of these might be available in the future.

>>40848225
>The path of the succgen poster

>>40848252
Why sex and demons?

>>40846022 (OP)
both threads are pagan babilonian slut garbage

>>40848262
It was the implication of your post, I like demons so I'd choose that for myself, but these are all the I'm 14 and this is deep choices

>>40848283
So why not go Lich?

>>40848283
Also it's supposed to be shallow, not deep, it's smalltalk.
Deep would be a creampie or a slice to the gut. Talk is shallow, always will be.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQQ7-445TrIYxYztD_nFb8VmDBGiW-IK0bF22DTO585NMu68UW75V7EdXZ79OVLE8uQBWoQrUoWZ_D_/pub
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e7oYlrg1ne_eBME3fYbi-SfvFRqq_pZp/view

>>40848225
Demons, obviously.

>>40848262
You grab her by the horns.

>>40848265
Not garbage, but true spirituality.
Only garbage is christcuck /pol/ cope.

>>40848309
All-in with Satan.

>>40846022 (OP)
In interests of de-cucking this thread Minkan-Shintō with a little bit of Shugendo as a treat reporting in.

>>40849540
Shame, I practice vampiric religion, I think I cheeved, and altough I'm not 100% sure, I might be able to guide others unto the path.
Essentially, during meditative practice, you eventually see the Dragon and experience union with God much in like fashion to hindu religiousness.

How can i trap a soul after death? Are there books on this?

>>40849969
You don't. Jesus Christ holds the keys to death and the afterlife itself. He has full authority and control over it.