Thread 40850542

You don't want to suffer. You don't want to think about bad things. But you can't stop your own thoughts, right? This is evidence that your mind is not your own and therefore you do not exist.

This is what the Buddha teaches.

>>40850542 (OP)
Chapter and verse, faggot, where does the Buddha use the exact phrase "you do not exist"? I'll wait

"You do not exist" is wrong view as much as "You exist" is

>>40850542 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCeurGx6gjs

>>40850701
Anattalakkhaṇa Sutta

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn22/sn22.059.nymo.html

>>40850542 (OP)
Dumbass furry doesn't even know how his own religion works

>>40850774
In fact, it is you who do not know the truth. You think that Buddhism is like other religions that please the human ego. and believe that the idea The mind is ours.

>>40850759
I don't see the words "you do not exist" anywhere in there, however I do see:

>"Bhikkhus, form is not-self.

>"Bhikkhus, feeling is not-self...

>"Bhikkhus, perception is not-self...

>"Bhikkhus, determinations are not-self...

>"Bhikkhus, consciousness is not self.

This is the five aggregates, not non-self, he's saying that the self can't be found in any of those things, not that it doesn't exist at all

Again, try and find where he says "you do not exist" or "the self does not exist"

>>40850785
Wow you have a religion that preaches self denial and has a positive afterlife that you're rewarded with for good behavior and separating yourself from the material world and a negative afterlife that serves as a punishment for bad behavior and tying yourself up with the material world that's so hard to understand no religion anywhere has ever taught this

>>40850786
Khandha 5 (form, feeling, perception, body, consciousness):
In Buddhism, what is called "I" is made up of five parts: rupa (body), vedana (feelings), paññā (memory), sankhara (thoughts and perceptions), and viññā (consciousness).
Believing that these five things are ourselves is ignorance and the source of suffering.

And the fact that you have to wait for certain sentences without knowing how to process them yourself is because you are clinging to the Christian style of waiting for the word of your God even though it contradicts itself.

>>40850542 (OP)
This guy talks exactly like a Khajiit character, I love it

>>40850794
>self denial
LOL
There is no religion that truly erases the self like Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Judaism. They also really believe that there is something called "self" and that there is something called "soul" that travels after death. Believe that it was created by God, not that it happened by itself. because of the karma of animals

>>40850822
>Khandha 5 (form, feeling, perception, body, consciousness):
>In Buddhism, what is called "I" is made up of five parts: rupa (body), vedana (feelings), paññā (memory), sankhara (thoughts and perceptions), and viññā (consciousness).
>Believing that these five things are ourselves is ignorance and the source of suffering.
Yeah, you just restated what I already said in the post you quoted

>And the fact that you have to wait for certain sentences without knowing how to process them yourself is because you are clinging to the Christian style of waiting for the word of your God even though it contradicts itself.
Did I say *anywhere* that I was a Christian? I don't particularly belong to any religion, but I'm definitely not a materialist atheist, I lean more towards a combination of Buddhism and Taoism

>>40850824
ok

>>40850835
> Buddhism and Taoism
Good if want to follow my path them you must listen my words .

>>40850843
>Good if want to follow my path
Your Imperial Majesty, I'm not new to either of those religions, I've been following them in some way since probably before you were born

>them you must listen my words .
Nah, I don't think I will

>>40850848
>probably before you were born
LOL
How old are you then ?

>>40850855
Older than 14, which you clearly are

>>40850859
LOL
No, I'm 42, and that's why I can accept a truth that's harder for a young man to accept.
For young people, especially Western people It is very difficult for the youth to accept that we are not real. Because of the truth of the world Change, old age, loss, despair, and death are far from them behind the illusory veil of time.
His mind has a tendency to adjust his views and facts to distort them to suit what he is comfortable with.

Summary again We don't actually exist. This is what the Buddha "taught" that trying to make an excuse to be different like ourselves "is real in some aspects".

It is no different from the Mahayana sect that interprets it in a way that pleases the masses.

>>40850889
Nah, you have the condescending and arrogant tone of youth, you're definitely 14

I'm somewhat younger than you claim to be, but when I was 14 I was pretty much the same as you, thinking I had everything figured out and that it was my duty to educate everyone about how wrong they were about everything

Like most people, though, I grew out of that attitude eventually

If you're not lying and you're actually 42 though, that's just embarrassing

>>40850897
that is the difference between Taoism and other religions. I'm old but I have a lot of childishness but I'm still more mature than you.
KIds

You can be a child as long as at your core you can accept the truth that a child would never be able to accept.
But no matter how old you are, you won't be mature if you can't accept the truth that no child can accept.
You're afraid to reveal who you are. You don't dare use your name. Hidden in anonymity Also don't even dare to tell Your age. Because you believe there is something you must preserve. You believe that you really have a "self".

And sorry, it's not just my job to educate anyone who's dumber than me. I am accumulating good karma for myself by spreading the truth of the Buddha. and to train the mind to truly master those teachings through reasoned debate.

And my play is to make people happy and charitable. I don't play for the sake of discovery or for any ulterior political goal of paving the way for Nazi-style political violence.

Children cannot pretend to be adults. But adults can pretend to be children. Just like rich people pretend to be poor. But not in the opposite way.

under the cartoon My message is stronger and more powerful than politicians and serious images.

>>40850938
>Children cannot pretend to be adults. But adults can pretend to be children.
Yeah, I'm witnessing that right now

>>40850938
>You're afraid to reveal who you are. You don't dare use your name. Hidden in anonymity Also don't even dare to tell Your age.
Alright, then, I'll tell you

My name is Roger Alberto Pumpernickel III and I'm exactly 69 (nice) years old, I live on a private island in the geographic centre of the Pacific Ocean and I'm in psychic contact with zeta reticulans who have instructed me to call you a faggot

>>40850943
So the truth is that adults lose to 14-year-olds in arguing about the truth of the Buddha. Things are turned upside down when they reach their peak.

Until now, Western people still do not understand Eastern religions. They still think like naive children that A must be A. How can A be B at the same time? It's against logic.

>>40850953
>So the truth is that adults lose to 14-year-olds in arguing about the truth of the Buddha.
They sure do, don't they? Can't argue with that

>>40850951
>>40850951
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
poor westerners
When will you barbaric Westerners admit that you are just uncivilized savages compared to Chinese people like me? You will scream and deny the truth until you die, please do as you please. In the end, they were able to cling to their clothes and beg for their lives in the end.

>>40850954
Came with self-righteousness, ending with "Yes, sir" to avoid the fact that he was defeated. Like the self-righteousness of western people during the colonial era.

>>40850968
Well that doesn't sound very Buddhist of you

I'd like to direct you to post >>40833142, which I made about 3 days ago, you probably won't look at it but I'm sure you remember it, it was addressed to you after all

I'll post the final line from my post:
>You say you "hate racist", but I really just think that you believe that superior Asian thought is just better than inferior waito piggu Christianity

You immediately stopped replying to me after that so I knew I was right, but you just unquestionably proved that you are a racist

Thanks for playing, better luck next time

Remember to put on your stupid head, you trash westerner. Buddhism and Taoism are the great religions of Asia. And Western scum like you are not even worthy of using your sly, filthy tongues to lick it. You guys will be completely destroyed because of the karma you did during the colonial era.

>>40851000
>Remember to put on your stupid head, you trash westerner.
Sorry, can't do that right now, my stupid head's at the cleaner's

>karma
You mean "what goes around comes around"? Be nice to people and they'll be nice to you back? Be horrible to people and they'll be horrible to you back? Hmm...

>>40850989
I'm pretending to be a racist so you can poison your tongues.
You think that I will tolerate your disrespect without taking revenge, huh? Your own karma is working. And I'm here to warn you to be humble and accept your destiny. Your Nazis don't accept that karma exists and think that they can avoid past karma.by making new bad karma What could be more fun than witnessing the destruction of the West?

>>40851008
Daring to reject the teachings of the Buddha Is this about doing good to others? Trying to make other people feel bad because they're 42 years old is not being nice to other people. Your intentions were bad from the beginning and the heart of karma is intention. Save your mental acrobatics for your own fools.

>>40851026
Anon, it's as the great philosopher Sans Undertale said:
>someday... you gotta learn when to QUIT.

Or if you prefer superior Chinese thought:
>He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. -Sun Tzu

I'm enjoying messing with you, admittedly, but you just can't win every battle, and you definitely can't win this one, sometimes you just have to retreat

>>40851046
I won from the first post because it is true that the Buddha taught that we are not real. And the fact that you "dared" to argue with me and lost. Then "braced" to ridicule yourself for being "older" even though you yourself lost in arguing about the teachings of the Buddha.

You're the one who has to retreat, not me. I've never lost a debate with anyone: nazi, non nazi, furry non furry lgbt jew etc.

So I'll ask again to remind you who won.
The Buddha said that we either exist or we do not exist?

>>40851063
>The Buddha said that we either exist or we do not exist?
Sure, I'll go ask him real quick (yeah, I know him, he's on my bowling team, super nice guy, can drink just about anyone under the table)

Well, that's very odd, I asked him "Do we exist?" and he didn't say anything, then I asked him "Do we not exist?" and he didn't say anything again

Since you're obviously a Real Buddhist(tm), can you answer this one for me?

>>40850542 (OP)
Buddha bing, buddha boom. Nirvana this, and nirvana that. You must talking about that edgy rock band? Ka-chow! And ka-chigga! It's time to exit this samsara! Wa-hoo!

>>40851067
>Sure, I'll go ask him real quick
The Buddha went to nirvana and there was no way that an ignorant person who had not attained arhathood like you could ask.
Lying is immoral and bad karma, don't you know?

y vo ānanda mayā dhammo ca vinyo ca tesito paññatto so vo mamaccayena satthā.
Look, Ananda, what Dharma and discipline? that we have shown and has been commanded To all of you That Dhamma and Discipline will be your teacher By the time we passed away

(Suttanta Pitaka, Digha Nikaya, Mahavagga, Mahaparinirvana Sutta, verse 141)

The Buddha's teachings are, according to his own words, representative of the Buddha himself. Keep the Mahayana adaptation of the story.

And since all teachings boil down to the non-existence of everything, then how can you say that we are real?

>>40850968
>When will you barbaric Westerners admit that you are just uncivilized savages compared to Chinese people like me?
Yes.

>>40851084
>The Buddha went to nirvana and there was no way that an ignorant person who had not attained arhathood like you could ask.
I'll tell him you said that, he could use a laugh, his wife left him like 2500 years ago and he's still a bit depressed

>>40851088
Good, at least you have more courage than many western people.

>>40851088
FUCK YEAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iof5pRAIZmw

>>40851093
One thing you have to understand is that a perfect religion does not allow for arguments. which is reflected by all the dictators in Asia. I also don't like to be argued with because I know that no one can argue with me. Because the truth is on my side.And every time someone tries to win me over in an argument, it always ends in an unprincipled argument that you just make, which only makes me upset.

Perhaps Western people are used to democracy being open to debate because the teachings of their religion had room for nonsensical arguments to arise.We will soon find out whether the West will collapse along with its dysfunctional democracies.

>>40851195
>I BTFO you yet again in >>40851175
>you immediately restart posting in this thread
Lmao

Did you think I only existed in this thread, or that I would somehow forget everything you've said here? Nah, I'm gonna shitpost at you every time I see your name from now on, until I get bored I guess

I know it's not nice to bully children like this but I just can't help it

>>40851206
?
I don't see how you will BTFO me in this thread or any other thread.
What you said was, "I will continue to do bad karma because I am allergic to arguments that will distort the teachings of the Buddha."

>>40851232
>What you said was, "I will continue to do bad karma because I am allergic to arguments that will distort the teachings of the Buddha."

I really don't think I did, actually

You, however, said these exact words, and I quote:
>When will you barbaric Westerners admit that you are just uncivilized savages compared to Chinese people like me? You will scream and deny the truth until you die, please do as you please. In the end, they were able to cling to their clothes and beg for their lives in the end.

You want to talk about karma? How about the bad karma caused by being racist for no reason, turning westerners off to Buddhism and Taoism in general with your unhinged rants

Tell you what, let's play a game from now on: life is just a game, after all

You make a post on /x/ using your dumb misspelled name, and if I see it, I'll reply to it with a picture of a smug anime girl so you will never forget how badly you lost this argument

Of course, if you want that to stop, you could always just remove your name and post anonymously

4chan is an anonymous board, after all, and it takes a special kind of conceited to post with a name for no reason

How about it?

>>40851263
Actually, you know what, I don't have that many smug anime girl pictures, regular anime girls will have to do

>>40851263
>I really don't think I did, actually
That's what you do to the literally You are trying to distort the teaching that all things do not have a self, that they have a self.

>How about the bad karma caused by being racist for no reason, turning westerners off to Buddhism and Taoism in general with your unhinged rants

The reason is clear, it's not unreasonable. The reason is that a low-class Westerner like you dares to distort the teachings of the Buddha and dares to ridicule my age number even though you are losing the argument with reason.
And still think you've won Then asked me to leave my name and wear an anonymous skirt like you did.

And I'm sorry, little one. You're not the first person to try to oppose me. Maybe you think I've never experienced anything like this. but opposite Because you're just a kid who doesn't know how to have a wide influence.

>>40851274
Just got off a Discord call with my good friend Laozi, he agrees that ur a faget too and I showed him all your posts and he laughed at them

>>40851302
Democracy is allowing stupid people to open their mouths.

>>40851310
Just finished communing with the twin gods of the ancient primal forces of yin and yang, they also think you should STFU

>>40851323
Tao doesn't work like that, retarded.

>>40851332
Just merged with the entire universe so I can show everyone who has ever lived and will ever lived what a dumbass you are, and the past, present and future are echoing with the laughter of trillions of souls

>>40851342
People who don't know Taoism and Buddhism like you, are going to mix with the universe? Don't make me laugh.

>>40851352
Just entered Heaven, overthrew God Almighty Himself and became Lord of all Creation just so I can recreate the universe and change the purpose of existence into laughing at you

>>40851373
Keep this and teach it to your children at home. They'll probably believe you.

>>40851373
This is the average human being now, as you can see, he came here to laugh at you

>>40851388
Just took over every possible universe and every possible timeline so every possible configuration of subatomic particles is now aware of you and your bullshit

The only one who is not laughing at you now is you yourself, you should join in, it's fun

>>40851398
You must be very lonely to think that the psychology of deprivation would work on me, little one.

>>40851402
As Elton John said, "it's lonely out in space"

Come back to Earth, we miss you, get your head out of the clouds and learn to laugh at yourself

>>40851413
Elton John is gay
Are you gay ?

>>40851416
You have a problem with Elton John being gay? Anon, you're not a homophobe, are you? That would make you no better than the Christians you despise

>>40850542 (OP)

You really are a troublesome lot... Thank you for helping me level up : D

>>40851420
I asked if you were gay or not. Didn't decide whether it was good or bad. It's your mind that tends to think like that.

It's a pity that Western people can't hate gays.
You guys are idiots. They used Alan Turing to defeat the Nazis and then punished him for being gay. Then apologize later. Just like they did to every country during the colonial era.

This is why I agree with Carl Jung that The West is the mother of all demons.
I won from the beginning of the post and won until the last post.

>>40851439
Well, I did use the word "faggot" in my first post ITT (>>40850701) so draw your own conclusions from that

If I say I'm gay you'll just use that as a reason to ignore everything I'm saying, and if I say I'm straight you'll just insist I'm gay anyway and use that as a reason to ignore everything I'm saying

Let me recap, you're:
>14 years old
>Racist
>Xenophobic
>Homophobic
>Narcissistic
>95 IQ
>Fake Buddhist
>Fake Taoist

Yet you somehow think you're qualified to be some kind of enlightened spiritual teacher

All I have to say is: lmao

>>40851455
Imagine arguing with a retarded person that 1+1=2 is not 11.
That moron doesn't accept that 1+1=2. This is the beginning of defeat. And how does that moron handle it? Do you know?

He went back and posted fake news that he secretly went back in time to talk to mathematician Euclid and claimed that Euclid said 1+1=11. circulated posts like this for ten posts.

You're more mentally retarded than a kindergartener.

https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/average-iq-by-country-2025-update/

And since you are talking about IQ, I will post to warn you that Chinese people like me have the highest IQ and Western people like you are even more stupid than many Thai people.

Hurry, write a story about you going to meet some people again.

>>40851555
>Hurry, write a story about you going to meet some people again.
Okay, sure:

>Today I went to visit some friends. It was nice.

You will never experience this because you are thoroughly unlikable

>>40851566
I wouldn't want to have a retarded friend who wouldn't accept that 1+1=2. And he still argued that he had gone back in time. Looks down on other people's ages even though you yourself don't understand that 1+1=2 is not 11.

>You will never experience this because you are thoroughly unlikable

Judging by your methods . More like yourself.
You should be careful saying things like that because it might affect many people on this rotten website.

>>40851586
Look, it's your hero, Mao the Dong, with his biggest idols, Adolf-chan and Big Joe! It's like a family reunion, isn't that sweet?

>>40851586
I put your dumb internet name into a Gematria calculator, which you probably don't believe in because it's inferior Western spirituality, and here are the results:

>mark alan king fails to fool the real bride of christ because he behaved like scumbag
>mark king cant be vessel for god cause he lies stole and cheated on the bride of god

The truth is out, Mark Alan King, everyone knows your real name now and that your scumbag behaviour has failed to fool the real bride of Christ

>>40850786
Dasein is self.

The mistake of the Buddah is to think the Self is static.
Heraclitus was more on point about it.
You are not the same being of two weeks ago.
The Self constant changes, hence why we live inside Time.
Without Time, there is no Self.
Buddah was searching for the Acausal dissolution, mistaking it for the "true" Self.

>>40851769
On the contrary, the Buddha already knew that a person's identity is not fixed and changes continuously, and that is why it is not ours and ourselves and is suffering.

And the more science advances, the more it proves that human identity is nothing special than other things.