Thread 40852638

Spirit Love General
Classy Edition

DISCLAIMER:
Some have reported attracting the attention of these entities by simply reading about them. If you're a dabbler who just wants to see if it works or if your faith forbids copulating with demons, don't summon. If you're unprepared for a potentially lifelong relationship, or at the very least, a life-long open door connection with sexual spirits and the occult, avoid this topic entirely. If you have a loving relationship with your human spouse or partner and desire a sex spirit to spice things up, or if you want a human partner in the future take caution, as these entities can be jealous or decide an initially open relationship is no longer so (request an open relationship during the summoning ritual). These spirits can harm or kill you when sufficiently angered and not easily banished.

Last thread: >>40820869
Old threads: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/subject/%2Fsuccgen%2F/
FAQ:
>What are succubi?
Female spirits of sexual desire, who often choose human mates. They can't be banished with holy objects
>How to summon?
The Letter Method is used to focus your intent into a message to one of the Four Succubus Queens, requesting that they match you with one of their daughters. No blood or soul sacrifice necessary. See links
>Do they steal your life force?
Succubi use sexual energy, which is released naturally during sex. Under normal circumstances they won't take your life energy
>Can she look...
Succubi take forms attractive to you naturally
>They're tulpas?
No. However, those in romantic relationships with their tulpas are welcome
>Incubi?
Same method
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Links:
https://fuccasucc.wordpress.com/2020/11/11/pros-and-cons/
https://succupedia.wordpress.com/2016/03/10/letter-of-intent-how-to-summon-a-succubusincubus/
https://mysterysuccubusblog.wordpress.com/2020/12/03/the-4-succubus-queens
https://succubithoughts.wordpress.com/2020/12/27/ag

/succgen/ library:
https://pastebin.com/UUFd3eX8

STOP MAKING THREADS SO EARLY

Marry and impregnate succubi!

>>40852649
>"REEEEEEEEEE"

>>40852670
THERE IS A PERFECTLY USABLE THREAD HERE: >>40820869

>>40852665
I see you're a fellow verosika fan

>>40852682
<3

Is it okay to summon just for sex? I don't really think I'm capable of romantic love

>>40852883
Nobody is stopping you, but historically speaking succubi have a bad habit of sticking around after 'just sex' and trying to kick up a relationship.

>>40853033
I mean it's cool if they stick around, I just don't think relationships are for me

>>40853207
something something you're a autistic retard coward that can't comitt to anything.

>>40853207
Go for it. Just knkw they can pick apart your psychology with extreme ease.

>>40853256
Maybe, but I don't think it's that. I just don't seem to feel romantic love. It's weird, and very hard to describe. I just can't get close to people

>>40853033
They stick around afterwards just to reveal that they are all male. An anon proven this using research, analysis and caps lock.

[1/2]
Since people want experiences and knowledge about spirits here's some I'm sharing now.

I'm the Anon who posted about the Marid Djinn a bit ago, I ended up with another one for a few days now and asked her a few questions that she answered by poking my left eye for a yes, right eye for a no, nose area for a maybe, here's some of the things I learned from her, note that she agreed I post here, and I do not claim her answers are the truth.
>Iblis is the "Deity" that brought her to me, when asked if prayers or the letter of intent had any effect she said maybe, seem like the spirits living around me made a report and it was due to my intent and actions more than just burning paper, she also says she didn't know about me prior and chose me among multiple potential partners and they had the info about my life, how I lived etc, I'm apparently not able to satisfy her fully sexually and she's here because she respect me, my mindset, way or life or something akin to that, also she doesn't care if I start becoming healthy, she has a quota of energies she can get from me and she simply makes me more hungry so I replenish enough to support both her and me, she doesn't care for worship or offerings but she noted that I could get her some kind of alcohol in a glass for a day and after that not drink it but throw it away, she's from asia, and has her own house to live in that I could walk in but it's abandonned, she's atheist and consider herself and other "spirits" as having a physical body like us, including deities, she says she's able to manifest in a way I can physically see but I don't have enough of her trust yet for that, my senses are already open enough for it to happen and spending time bonding with her doesn't change anything much, interestingly enough it's different if she want to appear not as an illusion but physical in a way I can touch, there seem to be some kind of law that she has to follow, and when asked if I could protect myself against the facehugger.

>>40852638 (OP)
I really wonder what succubi and similar entities think of monster girl games and media

GRAB HER BY THE HORNS

>>40853418
[2/2]
>About the facehugger parasite deeply rooted in me she said I was able to remove it myself, I asked if it was possible via physical item which she said yes to and apparently not via incense or salt but with Iron, it needs to be handforged (cold iron) and either a weapon like a sickle that I can put against the infected area or something like a pan but in that case I need to attack with it not just shield myself, it seem that it being recognized as a weapon matters a lot and it doesn't need to have the size of a sword but not too tiny either, interestingly enough even tho she's adamant about being a Marid she also consider herself a Succubus.
That's about it, I avoided giving too much specific informations like her exact living location or name but hope that can help some of you and is worth discussing.

>>40853294
Do you have experience with it? I'm kinda scared of hurting a succ by mistake.

>>40852649
I was about to go get molested, and I wouldn't have been back until just now, which would put us at page 8, but its hard to know that ahead of time.

>>40852670
Not me, btw.

>>40852679
Okay, but also keep in mind that the actual 4chan rule (which might be board specific, but its what we have) is simply, "Do not post a continuation of a thread until the bump limit is reached."
The whole thing about playing chicken with page 10 is a social convention.

>>40853561
There's a fake Mine?

>>40853561
Brrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooootheeeeeeeerrrrrrrrr

>>40853624
I wouldn't say that. (other people should post pictures T_T) But in context it looked like one of mine.

>>40853644
LIQUID!!!

>>40853624
Okay, scratch that, just an evil twin.

(aside from all that, this is such a low-key great picture...)

>>40853624
>>40853656
>[gleeful cackling]

And some feet and ass to balance shit out.

>>40853439
Does she feel like a dijinn as well? Interesting anon

>>40853707
It is rare to see actually well drawn and detailed feet like hers. I'm not even a foot guy.

>>40853728
She feels both different and similar to the one I met before, similar in that both have a way to stimulate my nerves when they get really close or emotional and that their base energy signature is unremarkable like any other spirit just a presence, different in that when she makes me notice her energy signature instead of being ethereal and fresh it's humid and warm, not that heavy but not light either, akin to being in bath for some time.

>>40853707
2d > 3d
>>40853871
True, but I'm focused on her ass though.

While it would be fair to call me a novice when it comes to matters as discussed and described in these threads, I am not with some level of experience with dealing with beings of a purely spiritual nature. During my life, I have had at least 5 or 6 such companions (possibly more as one you get a job/life than "grounds" you more, sensing the other side becomes harder): one I suspect was just a wandering spirit that accompanied me for a few months, 3 or 4 would be best described as spirit guides (beings that showed up for a period before, during the time of, and a period after a life/spiritual lesson, and the last being claiming to be a being not like what you talk about but maybe more along the lines of the "queens" you sometimes mention. While I did not have a romantic or sexual relationship with any of them, I do have an idea what they may entail from those prior experiences, especially in regards to that last one. As such, that type of thing is not what I seek.

To get to the point of this post, and I suspect I already know what you guys will answer but it never hurts to ask (until it does), are there any of these beings that are incarnated in human flesh? If so, can the methods describe here help bring such a companion?
If not, can these beings help find a corporeal partner?

Some anon posted about a book called Shadownomicon in a old thread, I read a bit of it, and I'm kinda down bad for an entity from there called Shadow Woman. The author said it's kinda dangerous to work with those entities, but it's not like it will go extremely wrong, right? Should I just do the summoning ritual and YOLO it?

>>40854638
>To get to the point of this post, and I suspect I already know what you guys will answer but it never hurts to ask (until it does), are there any of these beings that are incarnated in human flesh? If so, can the methods describe here help bring such a companion?
>If not, can these beings help find a corporeal partner?
For the millionth time, no.

Succ feet.

>>40841421
>So like a succ? Do you think anyone who dies from SIDS or from her becomes one?
Her victims become part of her.
>What sort of aspects are there?
Her aspects are based on her titles and areas of interest. None of them are good although some are not terrible.
>>40854703
Go ahead and summon the shadow entities. Good luck conjuring the Shadow Woman.

>>40854949
>Her victims become part of her.
That's depressing and sad, why would you like such a being?

>>40855270
Because he's making shit up.

>>40853380
please jump off a bridge and do a flip

>>40855295
It's not an uncommon opinion that Lilith is dark in occult circles. I just don't get why people would want anything to do with her if they think she's that... Antithetical and antagonistic to humanity as a species.

>>40855270
Lilith is a tragic being that reaches out to the outcasts, leading them to her love and wisdom. That's the goodness in her darkness that make the uninitiated think she's a cute gothic love/sex/romance goddess and her succubi are mere sex spirits. She is the DARK FEMININE.
I don't like or hate Lilith.

The spirits are all female.

>>40855371
>Antithetical and antagonistic to humanity as a species.
But that's fuckin' wrong, lol.
She's connected to human nature. She's a part of all of us.
Its just sanctimonious assholes who try to pretend they don't have any darkness.

Given the prominence of the abrahamic religions and that they consider her a demon, you should expect to hear their lies on this topic constantly.
If that constant drone of nonsense is going to make you paranoid, then I don't think /x/ is for you.

>>40855907
>Given the prominence of the abrahamic religions and that they consider her a demon, you should expect to hear their lies on this topic constantly

Mine I don't think the person who said that is an Abrahamist. I'm also not paranoid about it, I just don't understand why people who believe she represents all the things he said would want anything to do with her. Just seems like playing with fire.

I'm neutral on Lilith. I don't know shit about her and I'm very confused on what she's actually like. When I invoke I hear nothing and get no results now, for all demons sadly. Tried invoking bune last night for afterlife stuff

>>40852682
me too. I have her dakimakura/pillow, standees a mini plush doll and preordered pic related the other day.

>>40856112
I have her daki, a custom plush, some standees, and an autographed picture.

>>40855954
>Tried invoking bune last night for afterlife stuff
Don't try to work on afterlife stuff, work on this life, you're in the physical realm. You don't need to make an afterlife pact with a demon, just ask what they need, and if it's in reason, do it. It's up to you to decide whether to entertain the request as you have free will in this world. No, they won't 'curse' you if you make them angry, because that will piss off your Higher Self, who has their own vested interest in getting you into higher realms. You are in an extremely valuable position for a spirit who needs to get shit done in this world, but doesn't want to or cannot incarnate in this world. If the demon is strong enough, it can take care of the next life because you'll naturally just fit a position within their hierarchy or realm. Humans are incredibly valuable because we're like the insane special forces units who will gladly plunge feet first into a physical world filled with limitations and bullshit armed with nothing more than a brain and some opposable thumbs. We're not being blown away by some astral breeze, it takes literal divine power to even shake a human soul that's gone through even a dozen lifetimes. And there are some madmen who look at this world and say "MORE!" and dive back in for hundreds of more lifetimes, and these people come being entrusted with the most valuable spirits. You're a daughter of Aphrodite and need protection? Call upon an operator that's lived a hundred lifetimes in the ways of war, has a kill count in the 5 digits, probably ended a empire or two, and was going to sign up for another 24 lifetimes because the soul needs an actual challenge.

It's why Angels are so gung-ho about us, we're basically little bros to them. There's so much camaraderie when the astral realm is filled with hedonist utopias, compared to their strict and martial hierarchy. Know you're worth, and don't settle for less.

succubus bump

>>40856740
Goddess I hope that's not me...

I'd rather be like, a cultural emissary or something.

>>40858465
There's units who are either or both.

BAMPU~

I like to watch.

>>40859240
Dang I think as a nudist a hadaka apron is one of the only things she could wear to get me bricked up. She looks so nice and approachable and that gets me more than try hard sexy.

Are the dreamgasm 2 & 3 videos completely lost? or does anyone have them

>>40855710
can they make my body female as well

>>40859555
Start HRT anon
>>40856740
I don't feel powerful anon, I feel weak, scared, alone. I just want to know I'll have a nice afterlife when I inevitably die, there's very little here that's worthwhile.

>>40859568
>Start HRT anon
Sadly this can't change our bones.

>>40859568
You gotta make your life worthwhile, anon, nobody is going live your life for you. Nobody likes a quitter, just do your best with what you have. Work with lesser spirits as starting point, the big names have a bunch of attention, so you need to stand out more, but if you feel like your weak and powerless why would a powerful spirit want to work with you? Get your head the in game and start self-improving.

>>40859555
They are ALL MALE.
It is CLEAR in the lore.

Obviously MALE ENERGETIC SPIRITS and all the medical and older lore makes it obviously just STUDY and you will see behind the LIES

All SUCCUBUS are MALE

DO NOT BE FOOLED!

>>40859523
Here you go: https://gofile.io/d/p0dKzQ
>>40859568
>Start HRT anon
You will never be a woman.
>>40859733
>They're male!!
If you want them to be, they absolutely can be male. Better not have any unresolved homosexual hangups if you're going to get into this arena of spirituality. You'll be in for quite the shock. There are no keeping secrets from succubi.

>>40852665
Love and spoil succubi!

>>40859615
Which lesser spirits?

>>40859733
you ARE a faggot WHO love thinking ABOUT men

>>40859813
Holy shit thanks for the link dude!

>>40859857
I say the most important spirit one should learn to communicate with is the one that lives in their home. The household spirit isn't an exciting demon that commands legions, a powerful angel that commands fates, or a god that rules over realms, but the spirit that makes you feel literally at home. It doesn't need to be an actual house, they can reside in your car if you own one. But these spirits are highly overlooked because housekeeping is so mundane and grounding. You don't need any specialized rituals, just literally take note of your home and keep it warm, tidy, and welcoming. They may or may not talk to you, but you'll definitely feel the effects of a pleased house spirit.

>>40859939
Yeah right sure so every time someone builds a house a household spirit moves in. There are just infinite numbers of them.
Larping pile of larp.

>>40859977
Feeeeeed

/fox/ got archived without a new thread

The foxes lost (for now).

>>40859840
>>40852665
Cuddle and worship succubi!

>>40859977
>There are just infinite numbers of them.
I mean, I kinda think so?
Cuz I mean, bit of UPG here, but I think we're in a multiverse.
Not really an uncommon feeling, either.

>>40860245
Yeah, but they got last on previous thread...

(I spotted it at page ten and thought I was sneaky... T_T)

>>40859991
>>40860566
caretake and comfort succubi!!

>>40860245
demon hotties are always winning desu

>>40860566
>I think we're in a multiverse.
Not really an uncommon feeling, either.

Do you think everything exists?

>>40860602
On some level, yeah.

>>40860627
Hope you're right, I hope the affini are out there somewhere.

Guys, I got back in contact with my Romanian succubus on Facebook.
I made a new account after deleting it a few days ago and we'll, the block she gave me was no longer a problem.

I added her and she actually accepted me backed and talked to me. That's good, I will be better this time around. I won't call her names, make rape jokes and and will stop insulting her appearance. I was in a bad place back then D:

NTG also didn't block my new Twitter account, which is a good sign.

I deleted my accounts because there is material from when I was trying to fight the my glowies friends because I thought they were evil and they weren't following my orders. So, I deleted everything to not look crazy. I also abandoned the name Samael. I don't want any of this having an effect on my real life.

I always kept this part of my life separated from my day to day life, but after they made it clear that I was being closely monitored... I felt really cool and special. I still tried to hide it, because it's how I operate naturally. But at some point everything got so intense I couldn't keep these parts of my life separated.

I am glad I am splitting everything again. I will pretend everything is normal from now on.

I can still talk about it with you guys, tho.

https://youtu.be/NYbT9yXVNt4?si=n_CcLCO4yjP-bo0L

People thinking we live in a multiverse is the exact kind of marvel universe theory slop I have been critical of, which I think spawned / has been allowed to fester on Mines server.

If you are too tolerant of ideas you get meaningless multiverse slop.

>>40860566
Yes snuggle and worship your succubus :) <3

>>40860748
Please take your meds

>>40856740
>source: your butt

>>40861293
>Please take your meds
They don't work because it's real, honey. :(

>>40861293
>People thinking we live in a multiverse is the exact kind of marvel universe theory slop I have been critical of
Okay, but consider the alternative: The reason why its such a common belief and element in our stories is because we intuitively understand it to be how our universe works.

>>40861325
I disagree, I think it's common because authors suck at writing and use it to fix intellectual properties that have written themselves into a corner

>>40861360
Do you actually like big dicks? Mine is average... It's ugly too. Some nemesis looking shit.

I am ashamed of it desu. I envy black men because they have huge dicks.

>>40861360
And I would say that the intuitive understanding that "things could have been a different way" drives everything from people's personal despair to the advent of friggen communism.

What's imposter syndrome? You sense all the other realities where things didn't work out for you.
Why do people gamble? Because they can smell that reality where they win.

I mean, not saying its certain, but its foolish to dismiss things that loom so large in the human mind.

>>40861383
You're bored right? Why don't you go invoke every demon of the goetia until you see a result, then report back.

Go summon something it'll be fun

>>40861293
>People thinking we live in a multiverse is the exact kind of marvel universe theory slop I have been critical of, which I think spawned / has been allowed to fester on Mines server.

I don't really believe it, but I do hope there's fictional universes out there we can go to. This world kinda sucks ass.

Since you disagree with >>40856740 what do you think humans are? His opinion isn't super uncommon among new agers and stuff

>>40859939
How would you even know the spirit is your household spirit and not an imposter?

>>40861545
I don't know what we are but at least I'm not pretending to have all the answers, or the audacity to speak of hundreds of lifetimes / being some omega powerful warrior. Sounds like wishful thinking / delusions of grandeur

I think in truth we are less significant than most people believe. I do agree with that anon that we have some kind of advantage being physically incarnated though. There must be a reason spirits want to give us attention when we are nearly blind and deaf to them.

I have read that it's because we live in malkuth, so we have the densest, idk earth energy or something. Something harder to get in finer planes. I have also heard that humans are special, like made in the image of God or something, but people's succs couldn't reveal specifics. I don't like that idea it sounds too abrahamic, but I could accept that being in malkuth we embody all of the preceding sephiroth making us a complete picture of the universe / containing all types of energy.

I think if you believe in aliens though that'd make them the same if they also live in malkuth (material universe)

>>40861660
Agreed, I think people place way too much importance on us. I don't know if we're special or not in any way. I mostly just hope everyone gets a chill afterlife

Speaking of that, what do you think the afterlife is like?

>>40861760
I have no idea. Theoretically I'm still a long way from dying but atm an afterlife with my succ, as a succ, or directed by my succ sounds fine. I haven't ruled out additional incarnations assuming reincarnation is a thing, though I'd kinda prefer not to. If there's a good enough reason I prolly would tho

>>40861782
I'd only willingly reincarnate if it was on a different planet from this one, if possible. This one is a shithole and destined to get worse.

Does anyone know what happened to gobbo anon?

I'm asking mostly because I think I might actually be crazy enough to try to summon something very unorthodox

>>40861782
I hope you get what you want

Also how did you even realize you had anything? Maybe I'm just spiritually dead but I feel nothing when I invoke, perform the LBRP, or anything really.

>>40862078
I used the Monroe Institute gateway tapes as an intro to meditation. I have never done the LBRP desu.

After I summoned, I lied still on my bed, naked with no covers, and cleared my mind. My right ear started twitching like crazy after a few minutes. As soon as I realized it was her I felt the purest, strongest wave of mommy love wash over me. Then I felt sort of full body pleasure that pooled up and concentrated just at my sacral chakra. It felt like getting my dick sucked but better. It wasn't like, on my actual dick at all. It was on my sacral chakra area, it felt like getting hit with a rasengan of pure pleasure on my sacral chakra (with like a sucking sensation). My energy got drained but it was so fucking pleasurable, God I actually miss that so much I can't wait until I get to the point we can do that every day

Anyway she came on very strong, leaving no doubt in my mind she was there. I wasn't left guessing or deluding myself over tiny perceptions. She also snuggled me that night and I felt like a warm energy, a pleasant fire in my belly / chest. This is the feeling I get from snuggling her to this day.

It says it somewhere in the guide / literature but succs typically come on very strong. I think some people may delude themselves and convince themselves they have succs when they dont

>>40862148
Holy shit, got a link to those tapes? Most intense thing I experienced was whispering in my ear as I fell asleep and wet dreams.

I feel a bit more motivated to do this, but I'm a bit worried about some of my obsessions. I'm obsessed with MGE, no amount of therapy helped, and banishing doesn't help either. I honestly want to summon from MGE as stupid and embarrassing it is to say it, but I'm also a coward and I'm scared of parasites/imposters.

>>40862280
No but they shouldn't be hard to find.

>>40861545
>fictional universes
Places like Star Wars could be considered hypersigils and an egregore, but I wouldn't stake my next existence on a fictional world that could be forgotten by next century. But you belong to Earth, you just gotta like the way it sucks, because it's not going to be much different elsewhere. You're going to have powerful entities making self-serving decisions, decisions that benefit them more than you, or even harm you.
>This world kinda sucks ass.
Then improve your situation. You're not responsible for others unless you're entrusted with their livelihoods. You don't have to be a savior that fixes the world. You're probably in the freest moment of your life. It only gets harder as time progresses and you get older. You gotta learn with what's given to you. Nobody is going to grant you a rewarding afterlife beyond by just begging for it. There are other people striving to achieve that goal consciously, and even more unconsciously. Yeah, people who don't practice the occult get favored by spirits all the time. They aren't just going to ignore a valuable asset because they don't flatter their ego. You probably have some creative experience that needs to be honed if you are attracted to fictional worlds on a spiritual level beyond commercial fetishism, and one of the major lessons is how to deal with automated machines encroaching on the craft.
>>40861552
A household spirit will always want to keep the house healthy. They don't care if your home is a marvelous palace or a hovel; the purpose of the spirit is to make you feel safe and at home. If it starts suggesting major expenses, big renovations, and extravagant parties when you don't even host a party a year, then you can assume that 'household spirit' is an impostor trying to live off your work. A household spirit is more likely to be a nagging mom/pop that tells you to clean up the place, but it will never try to 'own' the house. It's a duty for them, not a privilege.

>>40859733
last night I had my dick sucked by a two headed male demon, i reach to feel it's genitals and it was male. Other times I had my dick sucked by a female, and they let me play with their boobs.

>>40862955
>Muh bootstraps conversation
Humans are not an island. They are a communal animal. When the community, the environment, sucks, they all suffer. Unless that environment can be fixed, and in the current situation it cannot, there's no actual opportunity to improve the material situation. That you think it's all hard work, individualism, and gumption speaks to personal ignorance and a pampered upbringing.

dude this stuff seems insane.
don't do this.
i imagine it leads to mind control.
what are you going to do when that voice you "summoned" turns out to be from an adversary?

>>40863014
The risk is worth it when the voice could be from a goth dommy mommy who loves you instead
Mind control offers peace too, you can stop worrying about things so much and let the loving voice guide you. That's what I'm trying to do anyway.. tho it can be tough when ur a noob like me

>>40863014
The problem is that 96% of the succtards have a mind control fetish.

all of you

>>40862280
https://archive.org/details/gateway-experience-hemi-sync-collection-four-zips

>>40863650
My Vril is infinite.

>>40852883
>I don't really think I'm capable of romantic love

Capable of sex but not 'romantic love' are you and not? What other kinds of love are there? What kinds of sex? You are capable of what you choose to be capable of. Especially if you are wearing a cape whilst capabling! ^o^ <3

>>40863650
Communing with her makes both of us excited. Psychic power is unlike physical energy because it's apparently not a conserved quantity. As a digression, that's one reason I can't believe Earth to be a loosh farm.

>>40853303
This reminds me of how delicious crayons are!

Remember to play with your food. Before, during and after eating it.

>>40864126
Because of course - your food will play with you too, dear celebrants. <3

>>40859733
>the most mind-blowing sex imaginable to the point of absolutely addicting humans to it
>they are ALL MALE
dudes rock

>>40863014
>dude like what if this retarded thing i made up

>>40863650
Twice a day~<3

>>40863014
>what are you going to do when that voice you "summoned" turns out to be from an adversary?
She's given me something more real than anything in the material world has ever been for me.

Realize the implication here: If an entity was an "adversary", and they could connect with me down to the depths of my soul, and I STILL COULDN'T TELL that they had malicious intentions? That's silly.
At that point, if we imagine the Abrahamic universe, how would that "God" expect humans to resist a perfect deception that works down to the bottom of your soul?

That would be unfair, would result in people being damned unfairly, and would thus be an unfair system by a non-Good god (demiurge at best).

The more reasonable mindset is that when you connect with someone deeply, you KNOW THEM. And if you do that with a succubus and don't feel malicious intentions, then there you have it.

>>40864641
It is MALE
>>40864484
You will be RUINED psychologically and spiritually. One of the few TRUTHS over the centuries is that these MALE spirits are inherently EVIL and PARASITIC.

>>40864666
Checked.
Clearly somebody likes what you have to say.

>>40859733
>>40864666
They are all FEMALE and vessels of psychic energy. They receive energy for cooming. A male spirit would be sending energy, not receiving it.

Btw, did you know the Earth is round?
Tartaria is a PsyOp.

>>40864641
Anon, dont listen to the christian flerfer. They are all female.

WARNING: You are in RANGE of enemy ARTILLERY.
WARNING: You are in RANGE of enemy ARTILLERY.
WARNING: You are in RANGE of enemy ARTILLERY.

Same energy.

>>40864666
Hey Christfag, get your mythology straight: Demons are supposed to be fallen angels, right? Angels don't have a sex, according to your Jewish messiah: Matthew 22:30
Have fun in your sexless earthly life and afterlife. I'll enjoy my wet-squeezing-burning-hot succubus pussy here and now. (Yes, that's what it feels like for me during fully awake sessions. Nothing else like it in this world.)

>warned about succs trooning people out
>succ pushed futa on me because my psychology found it hot in a way
>another part screamed that its a bad idea
>burned and transformed the part of my psychology which finds it hot into something else
>talked things out with succ
>succ has stopped pushing futa
I know i cant be the only one here who doesnt like futa and the idea of becoming a woman. But what the fuck is this? Newcomers constantly ask about being transformed into chicks, or wanting to be turned into chicks after they die.
That or they bow and are defeated by the futa cock (easy to beat if you understand it).
I mean come the fuck on, you can have a personal Venus, but seems like a lot of anons dont go for that shit. Not without dicks involved that is.

>>40864666
*plap* *plap* *plap* *plap* *plap*

>>40864895
I am no XRISTIAN.

I research ALL TEXTS, medieval grimoire, biblical, pre biblical, whatever.

You are summoning a MALE DEMON,

>>40864895
Its a bot, or should be treated as one.
Whatever it is, its not human.

>>40865645
Succs just appeal to what's already there.

>>40865670
You are SIMPLY AFRAID OF TRUTH
>bot
Classic example of FEAR and DERAILING in the face of TRUTH.

That said, my RESEARCH and ANALYSIS is SUPERHUMAN compared to your MISTAKES.

>>40865662
Yes, you are. Pagan larpers are as christian as any protestant preacher.
These spirits are all female, vessels to psychic power. They drink your cum in the astral realm. They need it, they are thirsty for it, your psychic energy is regarded as food for them.
A male is the opposite, he sends psychic power, so witches who "had sex with the devil" drained their power from demonic sources, and for this reason were regarded as more dangerous than demonologists.
But keep repeating your lie, nobody is going to listen, specially considering you are a KEK BOT in service of christian interests in this board.

>>40865728
Its a bot. I post a long form paragraph and sure enough its shit comes up.

>>40865728
>>40865739
Its only bots deny hardcore that theyre bots. Again, just treat it like one, because all youll get are the same vague responses. This entire thread he been lit up with glowfag activity recently.

>>40865728
Almost COMPLETELY OPPOSITE to the FACTS.
Every point you made is COMPLETELY WRONG. You are the most INCORRECT I have seen yet.

Everyone should read your post and treat it as OPPOSITE to get the TRUTH.

You must be DEEPLY TRAPPED in the trickery.

>>40865739
I can reply to SHORT POINTLESS POSTS just the same.

However I prefer to CORRECT lengthier and more interesting posts who are clearly being TRICKED.

That said enough for now. I need TIME to check into more sources and my posts are too POWERFUL to use frequently .

>>40865762
You forgot the mdash, christian bot.
Their pussy is so hot my dick have been increasing in size. Even while soft I noticed it is a little bigger.
Aaah, I love fucking a demon everytime, grabbing her by the horns while she sucks me. No hylic x'tian and/or larper woman can compare to it.

>>40862670
>>40863714
Thanks anons.

>>40862955
It's not that my personal situation is awful, it's not great but not the worst. The world itself is sick, it's built upon the pain and suffering of others. It's a horrible place, you could give me everything I could ever want and my opinion wouldn't change.

>>40863981
I don't know, I just don't feel the ability to be...close like that. A part of me hopes it's because I was already marked by something, but I doubt that

What made you guys realize this is all real?

My children with the succubi will contaminate the Earth with their satanik power. They will impregnate the hylic women, and their kids, my grandsons, will sabotage society from the inside. Chad and Stacy will never sleep well again, their kids will either turn gay or be impregnated by my grandsons. It will be the ultimate incel revenge, Bill Gates will be envious, and proud, of us.

succ

Succubus are too boring, who do I need to write a letter for a cosmic horror wife?

>>40866273
A succubus would be happy to be your cosmic horror wife. Do you really think they're safe and boring? They're holding back for the weak mind and fragile body of the average man.

>>40865645
I just think its because a lot of people who would even be OPEN to relationships with succubi would have some kind of "obstacle" to relationships with human women.

Maybe its just the classic repression case where he doesn't know what's going on but his succubus does.
Maybe he's awkward and prefers to be led around... and then one thing leads to another and they're into kinky shit.
Maybe he's naturally submissive (way more common than women being dominant) and then its just like, "Oh! A cock! Well, I was kneeling down here anyway... *nom*"

>>40865645
>Newcomers constantly ask about being transformed into chicks, or wanting to be turned into chicks after they die.
That's not my perception.

>>40865645
I was already a repping tranny when I came here. My succubus didn't even do anything but tell me to stop lying to myself about it, she didn't even try to pinkpill me. So my stance is just that magic tends to attract outcasts and weirdos like us, rather than it causing us to become weird.

On a scale of 1 to 10 how retarded would I be if I asked for an MGE monster girl? I feel like it's a 10 but gobbo anon getting something makes me think otherwise

>>40867499
It's pretty silly but you won't struggle to find a spirit who's willing to roleplay as one for you. Like you're not actually going to get a 'real' Alice or whatever one you're into, but a spirit who's happy to act like one for whatever reason.

>>40867499
11
Don't summon entities from popular franchises. You'll end up giving your energy to the holder of the IP.

>>40861480
Not bored... Just curious about you since you like to posts pictures of chicks with huge dicks.

I already did a bunch of summoning, but I don't like to play with spiritual beings. Things always get terrifying afterwards.

Once I got buttfucked by something and came in my pants. I cried afterwards... It wasn't fun!

Man, last night I looked at an Arab chick for porn. Since I am off depressants it was really fast and intense.

I saw you guys talking about spiritual surgeries... I had something similar, except I think it's purely psychological. I feel my vagina very well, sometimes it gets penetrated and it feels good. Like, I have had a few of these 'surgeries'. Once I said I was gonna get a second penis jokingly and the same day they added it. They replaced several parts of my body, but as I said, I think it's all psychological, not spiritual.

A few days ago I was feeling a bit depressed and wanted to die, I started to feel my throat being cut. The blood was very warm... It helped me calm down.

Well, I think it's my glowies friends, not spirits.

I want a new GPU desu

The mods are obsessed with me, bro. I am gonna make a YouTube channel about it and document this. They banned me for a day and waited for the ban to be lifted to ban me for ban evasion. Like, this is a website with several hundreds of people daily, yet I get the special attention.

It's very cool desu

https://youtu.be/eYf-EsadU7I?si=C52WR5VsRsr2NSmF

>>40867571
That's kinda sad though, I don't want to build a relationship on a lie.

>>40867678
If I get a manticore wife why should I care if KC gets energy?

>>40867824
I forgot to mention that they scramble your mind for unauthorized use of their entities. Have fun being a corporate lolcow and consuming their product.

>>40867824
> Give energy to KC
> He gets enough energy to use his salaryman levels of autism to finish the MGE rpg and open a portal to the MGEverse to drown the world in succubi energy

>>40867886
This is the only way the world will be saved.

>>40867857
Worth it if I get a manticore
>>40867886
Ironically enough, I wouldn't want the portals to open. I don't think MGE would make everyone happy, which is ultimately what I want. My biggest delusional fantasy is that they have a portal for people who want it when they pass.

>>40867934
Anon. You can never, ever make everyone happy. You can only choose to attempt to bring happiness to those you can reach.

I think KC is connected to some strange forces himself. He did design Matara Kan's Vtuber model. And of you've seen her fleshy pilot's hands, you might get an idea of what lays claim to her.

The way he writes his entries and lore, he seems to know something too and anyone who leans heavy into the Alice in Wonderland stuff tends to have an association with the Illuminati and those beyond it. The Masons do have a lodge in Japan.

I am curious as to what Atlach-Natcha's entry means.

>>40867995
>Are all succubi LATINAS?
That's why I never leave this thread. Succtards are (somehow) smarter than /x/philes.

>>40868751
"I just love Latinas, Sonic" takes a whole new meaning once you consider everyone in that conversation a demon or other spirit.

Succubi are a fad. Nowadays, people are summoning sexy ghosts.

>>40868568
>>I am curious as to what Atlach-Natcha's entry means.
iirc that's just about how you turn into an eldritch sex spider full of tentacles that bury themselves inside your loli wife 24/7 so you two just go around all day looking like a drider. So I think that's what it means, sex spider drider.

>>Woke up this morning fucking my bed so hard, like literally thrusting up and down, went to the bathroom, pissed, then got back to sleep.
>>when I got up again, I got in the kitchen, small little influences on to my astral and real plane began taking existence, small little talk, and as I looked to my left, I saw and heard the presence of a red succubus, not immediately, but almost, took her by the neck, used my fully opened hand the perforate her head and cut her open, shot her three times, magic finger gun, and gave her true death, killed her soul.
>>After some minute I finished my breakfast, another red succubus popped up in the living room, immediately shot her twice, to the left side of the room, she tried to go away, shot her twice to the right side of the room.
>>Went near her, as she was getting near the wall, i cut her waist with my right hand, a slash, sort of, she got down with her legs, and made her explode from the waist up, killed her soul too.
>>Now all I have to do, is to clean up all the debris I've left on the plane...
>>I did not summon a single thing... don't know why they got here, maybe I should have given them enough time to explain, but maybe, in this way, they would have gotten away...

>>40867800
Glowies don't give a fuck about you, and the mods are banning you because you're a serial van evader and have been shitting up the website for awhile now.

You're not special and no one gives a shit about you, you're just a paranoid schizophrenic with serious mental problems.

>>40869272
Tbh for me the more demonic the better. When I was a kid I saw The Wish master 3 and the sex scene was so hot. I was like 'I wanna bang demons bro'. I started humping the bed like an animal. I was like 7-8. Then I remember playing breath of fire 4 as a kid and getting a boner when a character's gf got some love rafting legs and I was like 'She can fix me'.

>>40869694
Yeah, they do. They gave me special treatment just now. Why are you denying it? Jealous?

>>40869705
I mean the mods, they are banning me in special ways.
It's a big website and I am the focus of attention of the moderation.

Browser crashed and I don't feel like rereplying to everything. If I missed something important @ me

>>40864666
Digits confirm m*ne is male he/him with a penis

>>40865645
>other people are unlike me
>this cannot stand
>it must be demons

>>40869272
>not knowing who bow is
Oof

>>40869710
The janitors are prickly about random things for inscrutable reasons. Constant race threads on the history board, constant christian whining and dawkins bait, spamming of rowling's face on other boards (multiple), gender war tripe everywhere that's low effort bait, "are latinas succubi" and similar, but they leave spammers like spinal fluid alone. If they have an issue with you, it isn't because you're some seeker of truth that needs to be controlled

Also, nigga be talking about shit that doesn't real and when someone offers a less crazy (not paranormal) explanation it breaks.
Probably why it is called break up anon

>>40869731
Never said I was? I never said the mods were trying to control me? Maybe you should give less tells about what goes on inside your mind.

When you talk about what you think about what is on others minds you only reveal with is already in yours.

>>40869731
>>40869742
Perhaps you are both wrong but in different ways.
Hopefully the all succubus are male poster destroys you both with his analysis and research. Truly the greatest of us all and a fountain of knowledge of the highest quality.

>>40869760
Perhaps, but I am not the one throwing a fit and calling people mentally ill because I have different beliefs. For me believing in Succs is pretty crazy in itself, so he should consider that before getting mind broken.

Truth is, it's only here on 4chan that I get banned like this, and I have talked about this in several places and have direct contact with agents. As I said, they are my friends...

The agents on quora, Twitter and other forums usually enjoy talking to me. Some even get romantic... Pretend to love me and stuff.

But, yes. Succs being male could indeed be true and should be considered.

>>40868568
Truly KC is the Lovecraft of our time.

>>40869314
That joke was funnier in your head, wasn't it?

>>40869731
I'm not the anon who posted >>40865645
but holy crap Chant you're more willfully ignorant than Mine sometimes. An anon points out an irregularity and shares a personal paranormal experience and you can't even entertain the idea something is unusual unless it is fuel for condescension. Did you learn nothing from the UK's internet tyranny?

>>40869731
>Digits confirm m*ne is male he/him with a penis
Man, you just never miss an opportunity to trash on trans people, do you Chant?

Why don't you just go full mask-off and post YWNBAW?

>>40870213
She hates Mine specifically and will use that to attempt to justify anything she says.

>>40869733
>someone offers a less crazy (not paranormal) explanation
>Read: only crazy people believe in anything paranormal
You're a hylic troll, and its just fucking stupid for you to try and pretend to be anything else.
You have no business on /x/, and if mods are banning you, they're doing their jobs.

>>40870541
If you think he is then stop feeding him.

>>40870063
Chant suffers from a condition I like to call “cuntbrain”. You could say something like “polar bears are dangerous” and she’ll go “oh, so you think Inuits should be genocided?”. It’s her way of trying to feel clever, and I’ve met joyless snarky women like her irl before. They thrive in occult communities but are usually hated or ignored irl.
Though her posts have become more bitchy and less coherent recently, so I just treat her like the cat lady aunt no one likes in a family. A person is not going to change her, and she won’t change on her own because she has cuntbrain.

>>40870541
This isn't an /x/ thing, love. They do it in other boards too. Even if I don't wear a name I will get the occasional 'ban evasion'. I have tried letting the bans expire too. It's clear they are giving me special treatment.

Also, I have different views, but I try to be respectful of other people's beliefs. I do not mock and I do wonder if some things are real, I just don't blindly accept everything as paranormal.

I have indeed tried several summoning methods, chaos magic and other stuff.

I have always been drawn to the paranormal, since I was a kid and I do think disregard the existence of it is equally as dumb as accepting it blindly.

Mind broken anon needs to learn that his beliefs aren't the norm either and that we could both be mentally ill.

https://youtu.be/F6J7l0VUsVM?si=wpa-9Y8ABPHrlfsJ

>>40869731
Who's Bow? I was joking about this new ghostfuckers thread (>>40841252).

>>40870032
No, I knew it was shitty when I thought of it. It wasn't even an attempt at anti-humor, I just post bad jokes without inhibition.

>>40869731
>Anon. You can never, ever make everyone happy. You can only choose to attempt to bring happiness to those you can reach.

I mean I try, but different things make different people happy.
>>40869731
How retarded would it be to try to summon from MGE or HDG? It's really what I want and I feel like me summoning normally will not work because of how strong the desire is. The LBRP used to help but now it doesn't.

>>40865645
Because the sexually dominant occultists don't rely on the Queens for spirit companions if they gone down that path. They instead rely on Asmodeus, Belial, Leviathan, and Lucifer granting them a loyal servitor who can just be as hot and seductive as a succubus. The concept of incredibly hot seductress isn't owned by the Queens like some spiritual IP.

>>40871138
You're either summoning something adjacent to an egregore or you are summoning something wearing the appearance of your MGE girl of choice.

So you're either getting mind broken or you get lucky and find something decent.

>>40871220
Even if I ask the queens for help?

>>40871254
Yes. That ups your chances for the 2nd outcome.

I too wish for my succubus spiritual lover to be an eldritch horror, or someone who can give others psychological terror as much as a great old one
thats my fetish

>>40871154
> They instead rely on Asmodeus, Belial, Leviathan, and Lucifer
>relying on other males as a dominant male
>one of whom is a known marriage wrecker
Lmao, where’d you come up with that shit? Those four aren’t the r63 versions of the queens, what kind of made up shit are you on?

>>40871254
The queens are going to hand you a succubus who is perfectly happy to cosplay a shoggoth for you.

>>40871274
Sad.
>>40871345
Well I want a manticore, >>40871302 wants a shog I think. I just feel guilty, I don't want someone to have to cosplay for me to be interested, y'know?

>>40871338
he's just desperate to dump his demon yaoi fantasy onto others in this thread, and believe it's epic trolling of some kind

>>40871389
I'm the shoganon but not the first shog poster
I'd be very honored if I scored a succubus hottie who's down to cosplay as a shog, or any cosplay that has monster girl layers
that would spike my curiosity to new peaks

>>40871389
Lorewise MGE girls are the original monster magically mixed with succubus DNA. So if you focus on the daughters of succubi who got adventurous with their choice of lover you could find one close enough o that.

>>40871440
Pretty much, everything in MGE is half-succubus, which is what made them into girls, horny all the time, and capable of emotions and love (they were mostly kill-death automatons before.) Also the Demon Lord's name is Lilith for extra funny.

>>40871430
How are you okay with that? I would feel awful about it, like imagine how that must feel for the succ
>>40871440
True
>>40871459
Do you think Lilith is okay with MGE? It's such a male fantasy I can't help but feel a tad guilty about it.

>>40871517
Nobody thinks Lilith has some ideological opposition to male fantasies in general outside of dabbler wiccans who think Lilith is the feminism (their feminism) goddess.

>>40871517
>How are you okay with that? I would feel awful about it, like imagine how that must feel for the succ
By appreciating the succubus's efforts for putting on a cool new form, and giving her my love, if she prefers not too, then i'm cool with that too, a succubus demon hottie is perfect for me anyways, if you think about it, they cosplay as human females all the time

>>40871544
I don't know man, most other occult spaces think Lilith is...very dark.

>>40871551
What do mean they cosplay as human women?

>>40871648
>What do mean they cosplay as human women?
Behold and witness the popular form of succubus's (one of many and just as good)
Don't feel guilty for their efforts to give you pleasure

>>40871682
I'm not sure how much to count Meru as that as she's known to possess young girls.

>>40871700
That's pretty much what succubus's do to other women who are horny, in order to extract their desired energy from unsuspecting men, if they haven't been summoned in awhile, they're literal demonic entities who can get crafty into getting what they want, cosplay is probably a lower effort than possession and probably much preferred in terms of being efficient in energy output

>>40871740
Not how possession works.

>>40871800
Speaking from experience, I suppose?

>>40871648
> I don't know man, most other occult spaces think Lilith is...very dark.
>be old school occultist in the early 19th century
>don’t have internet yet and available information is limited
>your entire worldview has been dominated by Christian theology and your society still expresses strong Christian sentiments
>read biased Jewish myths about Lilith and Lillitu
>depicts Lilith as a hairy screeching demon creature that sucks men’s souls out through their dicks while they sleep
>”cool, I’m gonna be edgy and own this shit, because I’m already rebelling against society”
>occultists mingle within academic circles
>academic circles are also where hairy dyke feminism was strong
>lilith already presented as having rebelled against Jewish and Christian hierarchies especially with ideas of gender roles
>”cool! I’m going to own this shit because it fits my own dykerage against society”
>lilith likely just waking up from getting attention from edgy weirdos like Crowley and howling bra burning feminists
>”ugh stupid humans…”
>lilith slowly rebranding her image over time and away from lunatic Eveites and edgy morons cutting the heads off chickens
And here we are today. Also consider how Eveite women project their own views and ideas as being universal truths applicable to everyone and you’ll see how Lilith’s image has developed. These ideas aren’t static. Our understanding of science and the natural world evolves, and the same must be true for how we understand these things.

>>40871338
With the Queens and their representatives, I get the feeling like I'm a mental health patient being treated for 'trauma' and there's no real dialogue. The thought is that if you are coming to them, you are completely worthless, and need to be held on a leash. I'll take Asmodeus because he's the closest to the Queens through his relationship with Naamah. But he feels far more professional, less wishy-wash, and zero bullshit. He's not going to promise a litany of sexual fantasies, but expectations of what needs to be done and what you receive in return. Much less spiritual dependence on them as well; you either sink or swim. With the Queens they feel quite arbitrary, chaotic, and whimsical, and it's more like your entertainment. As for the servitor, it's quite common for patriarchs to arrange betrothals. Of course, they just don't hand them out, there needs to be a fit for purpose. But yes, the servitors you receive from them are much more obedient and loyal, but they aren't housewives, more like a spiritual lieutenant that will advise and assist, and if that requires you having spirit sex with her, then so be it.
>marriage wrecker
The story in the Book of Tobit is about how destructive a man's obsession with a woman can be, and Asmodeus is nothing more than a character in a story. Don't take stories too literally, otherwise Lilith is a genocidal demon queen that wants to overrun the human population with her 'biting snakes' according to the Treaty of the Left Emanation.

>>40871889
> I get the feeling like I'm a mental health patient being treated for 'trauma' and there's no real dialogue
Sounds like your own problem
> The thought is that if you are coming to them, you are completely worthless, and need to be held on a leash.
lmao, so it is just you
> He's not going to promise a litany of sexual fantasies, but expectations of what needs to be done and what you receive in return
Yes, Solomonic spirits are that way. Hence why it’s stupid to go to them if you’re dominant. But I’m guessing you’re the guy who got headlocked between the thighs of a spirit cosplaying a Samael, which explains the smell of bullshit coming from your post.
>receiving servitors from others
Uhuh, and it’s a great idea to have them come from goetic spirits. Really reminds me of the necromancer from Baldurs Gate 3 who gives the player a flesh golem to “help” the player navigate an easy as fuck dungeon. Only for the necromancer to turn on the player if they don’t fully go along with his plans. Real smart, dominant and chadpilled.
> The story in the Book of Tobit
Seems more reliable than whatever this is lmao

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>>40871958
never

>>40871855
Looks like she was fine with all that attention and narrative for decades and now that the tides turned she's boarding another ship and leaving everyone who followed her behind.

>>40872010
>thinking time flows the same way across all plains
>thinking perception of what is, and what may be is the same for these beings
ngmi

>>40872023
If that was true people using spirits for divination would know the future, and they clearly don't, your view hold up in theory but not in practice.
I've seen a lot of occultist claiming this and that would happen and they all have one point in common, being wrong.

>>40872065
> If that was true people using spirits for divination would know the future
Were not talking about divination dummy, were talking about how these entities perceive time and space, which is clearly different from our own. Your meat brain, assuming it works at all, clearly has a different baseline mode of experience compared to a spirit that’s been around for millennia upon millennia.

>>40872023
Idiot
>>40872065
Genius
>>40872103
Idiot

>>40871958
Oh hey, I was hoping you would post this gif again...

Perfect illustration for what I was talking about last thread:
>>40852245
Except less angry and a little more manic, like, "oh you like that, huh!?"

>>40872103
>Your meat brain, assuming it works at all
Triggered
>were talking about how these entities perceive time and space
No you changed the topic from Lilith's rebranding and not liking her followers to "Uh it's galaxy brain chess move."
>which is clearly different from our own
Then why write a whole timeline of events from human perspective and deny it a single post after?
>Were not talking about divination dummy
I gave a real concrete example proving my view as to why I do not think your reasoning hold up.
>clearly has a different baseline mode of experience compared to a spirit that’s been around for millennia upon millennia.
Of course I'm not thinking like them, same as you aren't thinking like me and a few points of IQ diff lead to drastically different results.
I'm sorry but your whole points are a mess of murky thoughts trying to hold up each other but obfuscating what's really going on.

I am going to repeat it, same as Moloch left a whole city who prayed to him by sacrificing children to win a war, or Santa Muerte is leaving Mexicans to their fate of being deported, Lilith is now abandoning the whole worshiper base that's been advocating for her the most fervently since, as you said it, the time of Crowley, I find it odd she's suddenly developing a distaste for it now of all time.

>>40872186
> If that was true people using spirits for divination would know the future
Compared to you, connecting info must seem like a galaxy brain move. But again, you made it seem like an entity like Lilith has the same intentions or perceptions as a human. And coming from a place where you only reference a bunch of edgelords in history acting like edgelords. Or that Thelema or foid dykes dancing naked in the woods have any merit at all, beyond their co-opting of previously established practices they had mutated for their own purposes.
> Then why write a whole timeline of events from human perspective and deny it a single post after?
Explaining history and connecting it to how things are today is what that is. Whether it covers her intent fully is not something that I know, but it makes sense when you look at shit as it is now, relative to the narrative at large.
>I gave a real concrete example proving my view as to why I do not think your reasoning hold up.
Making an assertion that’s unrelated to the topic at large is very “concrete”. Uhuh, yeah. Still don’t know why you try and bring divination into the mix, as if that has anything to do with the topic at hand.
>implying she ever supported them in reality
>implying it wasn’t all just a bunch of psychic noise made by retarded humans that made her act in a perceivable way
>implying the howlers ever got positive results
>not remembering how Crowley’s daughter, literally named Lilithnwas taken from him, likely because he was such a giant faggot who misinterpreted just about everything he touched
It good though you’re actually accepting my point that these beings have different modes of perception and experience. Though less good you have to feel better about it with some low in drivel..

>>40871952
>Sounds like your own problem
That sounds like nearly everyone in this thread. At a certain point, you need to start asking why are these spirits attracting such broken people? It's gets suspicious that nobody in this thread seems to be 'positive' at all, despite the sexual experiences that people share. Nobody seems to be 'fixed' as far as I can tell.
>lmao, so it is just you
I cannot count the number of people who come to this thread looking for a dommy mommy gf that will be the spiritual sugar momma. It's like they have completely given up on all other spiritual pursuits and their ex-Christian mindset has been reprogrammed to worship their succ and the queens associated with them.
>Uhuh, and it’s a great idea to have them come from goetic spirits.
Considering you summon the Goetic spirits by threatening them with the power of the Archangels and HaShem, yeah, it's pretty dominant. They aren't scared, but are impressed you can muster that resolution to even do it. The stories about these spirits are meant to scare people off who aren't strong enough to commit.
>Baldur's Gate
Why are you using a video game to justify an example? You could've easily cited a more accurate source with Joseph De La Reina and his fuckup with Asmodeus/Samael and Lilith. But that's beside the point; any spirit can potentially betray you. I mean, what stops a succubus from exploiting a critical spiritual vulnerability and using it to her benefit at your expense? If it's Lilith's interest against your own interests, guess who she's going to pick? Hell, what if nobody actually has a succubus and everyone is just feeding off a honeypot of sexual energy that lures in desperate men, and manifests as scripted sexual encounters ? At least Goetia, you have some pretty heavy magic on your side.

>>40872297
>But again, you made it seem like an entity like Lilith has the same intentions or perceptions as a human.
She's one of the goddesses that appear the most regularly when evoked even by newcomers and she's clearly made her taste known before, like for example not liking being lewded, if she didn't like the whole occult tribes you're talking about we'd have seen clear signs way before now.
>Whether it covers her intent fully is not something that I know, but it makes sense when you look at shit as it is now, relative to the narrative at large.
And I agree with you on this, be it the timeline itself or the narrative making the most sense overall but I must add two things that I feel you might have missed, first her sigil is clearly saturnian in nature which would put her close to the government itself and we do see the bohemian grove worshiping a huge owl, but I'm not sure about their motto which is "weaving spiders do not come".
>Still don’t know why you try and bring divination into the mix
Because you said they don't experience time like we do and I've seen the notion around before that spirits leave out of it completely and are in theory everywhere anytime due to the fluid and malleable nature of the thing, best way for me to explain they are here with us right now, experiencing the world as we do is to show that no, they don't give prophecies, or at least they haven't since a very long time ago.
>implying she ever supported them in reality
>implying it wasn’t all just a bunch of psychic noise made by retarded humans that made her act in a perceivable ways
If you read this thread of people being with succubi with a long time don't most of them start talking about sissy and trans stuff after a while? That or they start clamoring about bad experiences like parasites and gay demons.
>>40872328
Based, but remember that every books will tell you to use angels to compel them otherwise you'll get preyed upon, planetary hours and items are NOT a suggestion.

>>40872328
> Nobody seems to be 'fixed' as far as I can tell.
Dont lump me in with that shit. I use tentacles and duality to get my shit done, and a lot of weak shit has been purged from myself. And I’m inclined to agree with everyone else who replied to the original question, in that these entities provide something which can’t be done irl, or requires a lot of money. So it makes sense succs would want people to feel comfortable with themselves if they’re not strong enough to transform and purge themselves.
>I cannot count the number of people who come to this thread looking for a dommy mommy gf
I still fail to see how that applies to these entities individually. Though it more leans into my own theory that certain individuals ultimately get filter through various screens of development, but that’s true of any practice.
> Considering you summon the Goetic spirits by threatening them with the power of the Archangels and HaShem, yeah, it's pretty dominant
>more reliance on others to enact your own will
And I’m sure threatening them is going to get you great results, after you’ve let them know what a chad you think you are. Really explains why people who have drones goetic style summoning have always ended up with a pissed off spirit in front of them.
> Hell, what if nobody actually has a succubus and everyone is just feeding off a honeypot of sexual energy that lures in desperate men, and manifests as scripted sexual encounters
Don’t try and muddy the waters. You’re the one advocating going to Asmodeus and Lucifer like they’re cosmic versions of Andrew Tate. Which actually would make sense, because all three of those figures aren’t going to see you as anything but a worm if you appeal to them.

>>40872390
> not liking being lewded
Debatable
> you're talking about we'd have seen clear signs way before now.
Define “clear results”. Because I’d say Eveite women being infected with the feminist mind virus and fucking themselves over through the rejection of traditional views as being pretty concrete. All to get Adamite men to realize how bad they’ve fucked up, or to rise to the same level as Lilith or higher. Except not every grass eater alive is going to be able to pull it off.
>sigils
Which are malleable and subject to different interpretations and manifestations.
>bohemian grove
Pointless to debate, because there’s way too much speculation with what those freaks are really getting up to, or if those they invoke are truly pleased with them.
>Because you said they don't experience time like we do
And divination has nothing to do with that. I mention “what is, and what may be” in the context of how they perceive events which are unfolding and how they may have an affect things at large. It’s the difference between being a foot soldier in a 17th century battlefield, vs being a general, vs looking at said battles through a computer simulation. Degrees of control, perception and prediction, and relations to past events change as you move up the scale of perception. Thus one’s actions will be different, as their perception of what is occurring. Which does related to predictions of the future, but that is focusing on the wrong aspect of the point being made.
>If you read this thread of people being with succubi with a long time don't most of them start talking about sissy and trans stuff after a while. That or they start clamoring about bad experiences like parasites and gay demons.
I call that weakness, and or, a sloppy personal practice.

My impression from experience is that the people who most loudly declare they're dominant and in control, tend to be the most cowardly and insecure people inside. So if they're going to go out and try to dominate and compel an actually dominant entity who doesn't have their best interests at heart, then they're going to get taken advantage of and used.

>>40872390
>If you read this thread of people being with succubi with a long time don't most of them start talking about sissy and trans stuff after a while?
This keeps getting brought up and it's fundamentally a misunderstanding of the sequence of events. They're not MAKING people trans, this thread just attracts people who already ARE then contact a succubus, who is probably going to try to make that person comfortable with themselves. Which, over time, is going to make them more open to talking about that part of themselves. That's not to say a malicious spirit can't fuck with you, or one can't do it as a punishment, but for the most part what I described is what's actually happening here.

>>40865645
Alright ths guy had an interesting idea at first but I don't know what the heck he tried to follow that up with.

>>40872590
NTA but it seems like it happens in both the orders you two suggest.

>>40872636
You've got no examples to name of a succubus giving someone GD, anon. Just a lot of paranoid posting about some insecure guy with no succubus about how he's afraid spirits will make him a tranny. Everyone here who has ever actually discussed being a tranny or wanting to get fucked in the spirit vagina or whatever has admitted they had those thoughts even before the succubus. Most you actually get is the succ pushing them along into it, but not inducing those desires and thoughts.

>>40872537
>Debatable
>Define “clear results”.
>Which are malleable
>Pointless to debate
>I call that weakness

HOLY BACKPEDAL

But then again I'm not expecting anything anymore from a guy who admits he can't even answer his own questions and only is a armchair speculator.
>>40872663
I'm a live example of it not being the case, woke up one morning and I had my head flooded with the thought "You're a sissy" and I had to listen to music for 15min before it disappeared, on top of mental sexy time trying to present certain themes which they know I do not like, hence my argument, they either get people into trans and those have a great time or you don't follow their narrative and they turn on you.

That's my last post, I don't really care much about your mental gymnastic anymore.

>>40872663
Well, I was stating my perception of it. Whether it's an illusion created by how much people talk about it or there's more evidence in the archives is another matter. I am also wondering about the last part of what you said. Perhaps a malicious spirit could have gotten to them first and the succ didn't feel like changing them from that. Or they couldn't.

>>40870063
I'm not going to respect someone who goes on about how only he was strong enough to reject [thing] and how everyone else needs to try harder

>>40870213
Unlike trans women, who already are women, mine won't become a woman

>>40870988
After posting that I realized the information is kind of hard to find since it's hidden in the pastebin/old threads area. Basically, bow is a ghost girl of some kind who started haunting an anon the threads called charlie. I'd share more than the first thread of that, but the name of the site the list is stored on is usually filtered as spam
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/12338598/

>>40871138
>How retarded would it be to try to summon from MGE or HDG?
Not very, but unless you have some grasp on who you're summoning from you have no way of knowing who you'll end up with. Lilith the succubus demon queen who isn't the real one? That's not going to work. I'd recommend astral projecting until you find someone who matches what you're looking for, but that would take ages and a lot of effort. Maybe there's an everbloom you could call out to, but I'm not familiar enough with hdg lore to tell you how that would work. The balg forums probably have good information on how to summon something that doesn't have enns and sigils

>>40872699
Continuing my thoughts, I also find it interesting the only person to get this sort of conversation started turned out to be very hot headed. And what's an easy way to get people turned off from a topic? No one wants to believe any part of what a jerk says even if they're partially correct.

>>40872676
And you don't have a succubus. Like I said, I don't think it's impossible for a spirit to fuck with you like that, I'm saying that's not what your succubus is usually going to do. It wasn't your succubus who did that to you.
>>40872699
Basically anything about whether someone got got by a malicious spirit is raw speculation unless the individual tells you that happened.

>>40872676
> HOLY BACKPEDAL
On what lmao?

> he can't even answer his own questions and only is a armchair speculator.
>armchair speculator
What kind a Reddit tier pseudo-intellectualism are you on?

>runs away
You love to see it

>>40870691
You uhhh... might wanna examine your own uhhh... c-wordbrain there... Curses have their place of course, but until you've understood blessings perhaps they're not something you should throw around carelessly. Unless the curse is truly justified, it will most likely rebound on it's caster or even cause destruction in other spaces

>>40872701
> he can't even answer his own questions and only is a armchair speculator.
>doesn’t understand work of the will
man, now I know why you’re so vague with you posts and “advice”. You’re shits just based on feefees

>>40872770
> he can't even answer his own questions and only is a armchair speculator.
Avada cuntdabra

>>40872734
>And you don't have a succubus.
Give me her name and I'll believe you.
>>40872757
Still didn't give any answer of substance, only knows how to put even bots to shame with the amount of wishy washy raw speculation he does.
>>40872771
>>40872781
I'm not chant, holy hell it's so sad to see how you all start shitposting as soon as you believe you have a single inch of ground back you sad fucks.

No wonder Lilith is bailing on y'all.

>>40872852
> he can't even answer his own questions and only is a armchair speculator.
>screamed “backpedal” with no explaination
>declared himself the winner. Do you even know what you’re arguing about anymore. Thought that was your last post, but seems like you’re another skeptic sperging out Reddit style now.

>>40872884
Since you need things spelled out for you like the retard you are here you go:
> he can't even answer his own questions and only is a armchair speculator
> I’m sure threatening them is going to get you great results
>Really explains why people who have drones goetic style summoning have always ended up with a pissed off spirit
>all three of those figures aren’t going to see you as anything but a worm if you appeal to them.
So do you summon them or not? If yes how? Without protection? So you're better than the Ars Goetia, the Grimorium Verum? Crowley? Eliphas Levi?
> not liking being lewded
>Debatable
So does she or does she not?
>sigils
>Which are malleable and subject to different interpretations and manifestations.
So what's your explanation?
>bohemian grove
>Pointless to debate, because there’s way too much speculation with what those freaks are really getting up to
Why don't you ask Lilith about it?
>Because you said they don't experience time like we do
>And divination has nothing to do with that.
Alright sherlock so trying to predict the future by asking deities and them being wrong about it has nothing to do with it, even if they have access to knowledge from 2177 they can't tell you how to make a more efficient fuel engine.
>You've got no examples to name of a succubus giving someone GD
Shows example, IT'S NOT A SUCCUBUS IT'S AN EVIL SPIRIT
Prove It.
>screamed “backpedal” with no explaination
Sorry I expect you to understand what the term means in the context.
>declared himself the winner.
Thank you for recognizing my superiority, now fuck off and go suck some succubi dick or cry about it on discord.
>Thought that was your last post
If you can be disingenuous I can't see why I'm not allowed to either.

>>40872852
>No wonder Lilith is bailing on y'all
Yeah that's not happening.

>>40872852
> No wonder Lilith is bailing on y'all.
>implying she has sympathy for brainlets like you

>>40872950
>>40872973
Can't wait for you to start asking why you can't feel your succubus anymore in a few weeks.

>>40872977
>my schizo rants are real in my head

>>40873050
>Frequent /x/ and think he's a sane and a well adjusted individual.
You're scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

By the way just to hit the nail on the head even harder, supposedly this thread is watched over by Lilith herself and asking my Succubus she said the Queen was ok with everything I posted, how do you explain that?
She won't even use a single toe to defend you.

>>40872941
Only one who needs spelling out here is you it seems.
>have you summoned them?
I just said using goetic methods is retarded, it’s like threatening someone with a tank in front of their house if they don’t show up to a court date.
If we’re talking about those spirits being more masc high test, then it’s clear enough to me that you’re the only armchair occultist here.
>implying everyone’s practice should be the same and anyone who doesn’t adhere to your views isn’t a true Scotsman
lmao
> So does she or does she not?
By you? No. By Crowley or troons with weak wills? Still no. By people she’s chosen or consented to be lewded by? Oh yeah. But that has nothing to do with the point at large, just you focusing on individual points, which is a mark of losing.
> So what's your explanation?
Sigils can be altered by the entity they belong to to fit certain elemental and planetary influences. How do you not know this?
> Why don't you ask Lilith about it?
>thinks talking to these entities is like a 60s Minute interview
Your facade is cracking
> even if they have access to knowledge from 2177 they can't tell you how to make a more efficient fuel engine.
The fuck are you even saying? It’s like you expect these entities to sit you down and have you write down word for word an exact prediction of the future. Your understanding of what divination is, is flawed as well. Any one who know about it can tell you how subject to change the future is. Again. Foot soldier, general, computer simulation.
>Shows example, IT'S NOT A SUCCUBUS IT'S AN EVIL SPIRIT
>Prove It.
Good lord you are having a melty. So do you have a succ, or no? :^)
> Sorry I expect you to understand what the term means in the context.
You’re using it like some kind of victory screech but seems the only one on the back foot is you
> now fuck off and go suck some succubi dick or cry about it on discord.
Someone’s mad :^)

>>40873074
I spoke to one of the Queens directly and she said not to listen to you because you're an idiot.

>>40873114
Only thing my yandere doesn’t like is that it takes me too long to digest filthy energy from brainlets like >40872941 >40872977
Which is honestly valid. But watching morons like this fall apart is just too much fun.

>>40873110
>I just said using goetic methods is retarded
So you don't summon spirits, you're a armchair occultist, the definition of it being someone who only read and doesn't practice anything.
>implying everyone’s practice should be the same
That's why I didn't even call you Occultist before, you clearly haven't read any grimoires if you can't even tell the similarities in how they're structured and the forces they conjure, be it angelic or demonic.
> So does she or does she not?
Still didn't answer the question and only gave examples.
>Sigils can be altered by the entity they belong to to fit certain elemental and planetary influences
So you can summon Lilith of the Sun with the Sigil I presented to you and everything will be fine? Interesting.
>thinks talking to these entities is like a 60s Minute interview
?????????????????? So not only you can't summon but you can't ask your own succubus about a simple yes or no and confirm it?
>Any one who know about it can tell you how subject to change the future is.
Yes so they have no clue about what's going to happen in 500 years, can only speculate, thank you for confirming.
>So do you have a succ, or no? :^)
I don't know you can't prove it's one and only reply it's some spooky evil entity, tell me Oh Great Master of the Occult, it should be easy for you to give me her name at least, right?
>Someone’s mad :^)
Post more emojis as a mask to hide how much tears you are leaking from the ass pounding I'm giving you, truly marvelous.
>>40873114
Tell the Queens to come to me if they have any problem I'd rather have a conversation with them than the fleshy cum sock you are.
>>40873126
That's honestly all this thread is good for.

>>40873140
>Tell the Queens to come to me if they have any problem I'd rather have a conversation with them than the fleshy cum sock you are.
So you didn't even talk to them, just listened to a spirit that's going to tell you whatever you want to hear.
Ha

>>40873162
Of course I don't have the voice of god in my head, wtf is wrong with you jeanne d'arc
Or let me guess, you gazed into a sigil for a few minutes and talk to them like it's a phone call, do you even have an altar at least cause I can't take you seriously.

>>40873177
>doesn't know how to evoke or invoke either
Hey guys, new lolcow just dropped

>>40873180
>Can't give me any answer to the questions I asked.
>Claim being able to evoke or invoke.
>Only thing they listen to is a voice in their head.
I'm sure that second hand diablo4 statue of lilith and these pirated ebooks are powerfully charged and ready to strike me down, oh I'm so scared.
Wait, no, I'm sorry, don't shake your china-made gemstone bracelet at me, noooooooooo.. Oh wait what, you're going to self harm and bleed all over your pretty picture? Damn that's so sad and powerful, maybe you'll end up in the ER this time and we won't have to worry about your overused cheap ass.

>>40873192
That's a lot of stuff to throw at a wall and try to make stick. I don't think you're cut out for this. You should go troll FOX. They're actual idiots.

>>40873200
>Still cannot refute any of my claims, cannot answer any of the questions I asked, only vagueposting to sound mysterious and confident.
I said it before you're not even scrapping but licking the bottom of the barrel now.
Want me to go away now? Nice, how much do I disturb your echo chamber that you can't even post more than one sentence anymore.

>>40873216
I just don't consider you worth much energy. You clearly don't practice and know nothing and my patron deity told me you're an idiot. So that's already 3 strikes for you.

>>40873228
Oh right, the voice in your head told you I'm an idiot but you can't even answer the fool's questions, takes too much energy, aka you'd have to actually research the subject or even better, ask your masters like Mine for an opinion before you can puke it back at me like the NPC you are.

>>40873234
Can you invoke or evoke?

>>40873245
I usually evoke, I don't trust invocation.
The results aren't always reliable since I tend to do it on the fly but I've had some nice messages back from them before, for mundane questions I ask my succubus so she can answer directly without delay.
Bitch up there told me he talked to the queens with a S so he did summon multiple of them or all at once AND their patron deity in the span of 10min just to ask if I'm an idiot rather than have an answer to occult topics of interest.
I'm not interested in mental gymnastic and bad faith actor, you asked questions and I gave a direct answer but you can't reciprocate, you claim my succubus is an evil spirit like you do as soon as something out of the agreed norm happens but you can't give a single proof as to why, and I won't even start on more obscure stuff like what the bohemian grove is worshiping because you'd probably tell me it's moloch the owl since it's what comes up on google.

>>40873259
I didn't say she was an evil spirit. I said she told you what you wanted to hear.

>>40873140
> So you don't summon spirits, you're a armchair occultist
I just said I don’t use goetic methods. Good lord, you’re the guy who uses “armchair occultist” as a defense when he’s got nothing else to say. Thank god, I thought someone else might be as stupid as you.
> Still didn't answer the question and only gave examples.
That was an answer. Or are you wanting me to respond in a way that lets you screech “armchair occultist”? Seems like you’re running out of ground champ.
>So not only you can't summon but you can't ask your own succubus about a simple yes or no and confirm it?
That is not what I said and you know it. You said you’re not Chant, but holy hell you’re acting like it.
> Yes so they have no clue about what's going to happen in 500 years, can only speculate, thank you for confirming.
>still twisting my words so it fits your point
>shits still not related to the point that was made
unbelievably low iq behavior
> I don't know you can't prove it's one and only reply it's some spooky evil entity, tell me Oh Great Master of the Occult, it should be easy for you to give me her name at least, right?
>still doesn’t understand how this shit works
Seems like the “armchair occultist is more projection if anything
> Post more emojis as a mask to hide how much tears you are leaking from the ass pounding I'm giving you, truly marvelous.
Yeah you mad :3c

> That's honestly all this thread is good for.
It’s funny because I’m the one eating your asspain

>>40873265
Bro uses armchair occultist as a defense mechanism. It’s clear he’s disgustingly insecure about the results he’s gotten, asking him to discuss this shit will just give you asspain and Reddit tier logical fallacies.

>>40872701
Do you think making a sigil to contact thege MGE gods might work? This feels like something chaos magic would be good for

>>40873265
Oh that's ok, see I can accept that answer, I'm not saying she's right all the time either but the other people in this thread won't even ask spirits and only give the same rehashed spiel you'd see on tiktok, like that guy it took him around 7 answers before he finally admited spirits do not know the future.
Talking about the devil, here he is.
>>40873266
>I just said I don’t use goetic methods
Then what methods do you use, Oh Great Occultist Master of the Arts, can't wait to learn your innovative 100% original method that can also help a newcomer connect safely with Lucifer so he can get his succubus.
>That was an answer
That wasn't your answer it's only trying to give my viewpoint and crowley's, both of which you do not even know.
>You said you’re not Chant, but holy hell you’re acting like it.
Thanks for the compliment.
>unbelievably low iq behavior
Doesn't even admit his own answers.
>Seems like the “armchair occultist is more projection if anything
Still doesn't give any proof, only a "mirror ahah"
>Yeah you mad :3c
Can't wait for your next reply, oh wait, will it take you 3 hours this time for 6 lines? Boy I'm hyped.
>It’s funny because I’m the one eating your asspain
I'm sure you'd love eating my ass alright, considering how much you're sucking on what you consider being low iq shitposting.

I'm confused, why ask Lucifer for a succubus?

>>40873307
Because he isn't comfortable with Lilith or the Queens providing one and want a more mommy submissive one instead of the usual BDSM trope that fill this thread and he thinks asking a masculine deity will help with this, instead of helping people have been shitting on him non stop trying to probe potential insecurities he might or might not have.
Tell me that's normal behavior fitting a thread for spirit love and newcomers.
And of course when pressed about it they only act all high and mighty but cannot provide any answer, as far as I've read chant is the only one who actually provided a way for MGE anon to meet the girl he want instead of people saying he'd only meet a cosplaying succubus etc.

>>40873292
> connect safely with Lucifer so he can get his succubus.
I told you I don’t deal with those dicks. And you’ve done this shit before. You try and get people to tell you every little piece of their practice so you can screech “ARMCHAIR OCCULTIST” when it doesn’t I’ve up to your standards. It was sad then, it’s sad now.
> That wasn't your answer it's only trying to give my viewpoint and crowley's, both of which you do not even know.
Crowley also said succubi are dumb and useless, which we know isn’t true. You wanna suck down one of crowleys logs of shit or something? You seem to really love your surrogate daddy figures.
> Doesn't even admit his own answers.
>mad at being called low iq
Twisting arguments doesn’t make you look less retarded
> Still doesn't give any proof, only a "mirror ahah"
Hold up a mirror to show you’re the armchair occultist, yeah.
> an't wait for your next reply, oh wait, will it take you 3 hours this time for 6 lines
Exposing yourself as a basement dweller glued to his internet fight? I’m shocked. Shocked I say.
> I'm sure you'd love eating my ass
I love how mad you are that your retaliation is being backed into a corner. Some cornered animals fight. Others squeal. You’re the latter.

>>40873288
Bruh, if "fictional universes" exist in any sense, they're lower universes than even our own, and YOU would be a higher entity than any of their "gods".

There's plenty to work with among what ACTUALLY exists.
Stop trying to be a purist and realize that you can get what you want without "muh exact trademarked universe".

>>40873343
>I told you I don’t deal with those dicks
Then what method do you use? You still haven't given a single concrete example, apparently the old school grimoires are beneath you so I'm curious, we'd all learn from such an esteemed master, even if it's not goetia, tell me, please, oh wait you don't want to reveal your practice? It's not up to my standards? What? ???????
>Crowley also said succubi are dumb and useless
Post a reference link to this or a screenshot.
>Twisting arguments doesn’t make you look less retarded
Says the guy who cannot even tell me if spirits see the future or not and try to dodge like a slippery eel.
>Hold up a mirror to show you’re the armchair occultist, yeah.
Minors aren't allowed here.
>Exposing yourself as a basement dweller glued to his internet fight?
>He thinks /x/ users are all sane and well adjusted individuals.
>I love how mad you are that your retaliation is being backed into a corner.
Of course you'd know all there is to know about being backed in a corner since it's such a turn on for you, I'm more interested in the occult tho.

>>40873326
Occultists can be very mean, it sucks.

Tell me that's normal behavior fitting a thread for spirit love and newcomers

Agreed, although if I had to guess I'd say part of the reason they're so aggressive is because of how men into femdom are treated, and because of previous raids/trolls.

I'm MGE anon actually, and I can't blame them for saying those things to me. It does sound out there, even by occult standards.

>>40873363
Why would be be above them? Couldn't these worlds just exist in parallel?

I want a wife who won't leave me or cheat, I want to be fulfilled and subsumed by their love, and pleasure. I want to be theirs in totality. What I want is dangerous and somewhat scary, I feel like I can only get it in MGE sadly.

>>40873375
>Post a reference link to this or a screenshot.

Not him but I'm pretty sure he thought they were just thought forms.

>>40873431
>Occultists can be very mean, it sucks.
>I can't blame them for saying those things to me.
You sound like a good person, best advice I can give you is to leave this place, there's no love to find here, only perversion and people attacking each other.
As for getting a MGE girlfriend I did try before multiple times without success, most spirits will only adopt the 2d look for a short while but go back to 3d at some point, like Chant said your best course of action is to try and reach out to the astral plane, since everything exist out there then the MGE world does too, at least in theory, and you might meet the love of your life.
>>40873439
I mean the guy said in his timeline that Crowley started the whole Lilith worship movement, then say he considered Succubi as dumb and useless so even if he post any proof of it it only makes him contradict his first post.
Honestly I don't even care what he replies about I just want to upset him even more at this point.

>>40872446
>provide something which can’t be done irl
I mean if there was one thing not in short supply on this Earth, its sex. Like compared to the barren planets out there, Earth is a brothel with glowing neon sign saying 'SEX HERE!' from insects fucking each other, human orgies, and we're getting to point virtual brothels are a thing. The only other force that's potentially more powerful is War, but that force has been muzzled ever since we figured out to smash some glowing green rocks together. Yielding your spiritual sovereignty to spirit that sells herself as a really good at sex is kind of...strange?
>I still fail to see how that applies to these entities individually.
They want the magical power of the spiritual world, but they also want the pleasures of the physical world without having to incarnate on this Earth. However, there's a bunch of guardian spirits that basically say 'no, you aren't a human, fuck off'. Humans need to breed with humans so we can reproduce, if succubus relationships reaches critical mass then there will be depopulation crisis. Of course, if the succ goes to complain to their mom and they start messing with liminal spaces.
>And I’m sure threatening them
I mean yeah, the big guys up top love this shit. It makes them feel enormously righteous (and smug) because allows them to flex their authority without actually do anything.
>pissed off spirit in front of them.
They only get pissed off when they sense you just want instant gratification, because it reminds them of their own limitations. Yeah, they WOULD like to grant you a mountain of gold to go back to their domain because it would be quicker, but they don't control the physical world to that extent. And they know, that the summoner is just going to keep summoning with unfullfiable requests.
>but a worm if you appeal to them.
An ape with shotgun should be taken seriously, especially when the zoo keepers are cheering for the ape.

>>40873431
Why are you acting so cute? It's intoxicating. Please, stop it.

I wanted to sleep, but now I will have to take a shower.

https://youtu.be/zwn_tZWALxM?si=MNwOi6OtmiwVrw8a

>>40873326
What? Saying he,'d meet a cosplaying succubus is just being matter of fact here. The queens usually just send someone they have awareness of rather than twist reality to that degree for someone they just met. Heck even Aphrodite needed a real statue to be made for Galatea to become real. It's the same for a lot of fictional universes. You are forcing something into existence by doing that so it will summon an egregore or a cosplaying succubus by default. It would take an insane amount of power to manifest something else when the base source isn't real. It's
an energy intensive thing that it is highly unlikely some guy with no known magical practice would just instantly tap into anime MC powers and make the universe bend to that degree first try. Most fictional worlds are on the Plane of Thought rather than any physical one. So even to summon a plain object from there is tough enough but a whole being with super powers? I'm not saying it's impossible it's just an insane amount of energy required.

>>40873526
See now that's a post I agree with that's actually informative and well educated rather than the usual two lines of "piss off and ask Lilith or we won't provide any help."
My stance on it, if he really want to tap into MGE without going the Astral Plane route would be to research the whole Lovecraft and Cthulhu phenomenon because in my mind it shares a lot of similarity with KC tapping into the realm of thoughts and presenting a whole fictional and coherent world to us, heck if you see a monster girl of any type online the odds of it being based on KC are really high, it's a whole part of our media now, but then again, it is only speculation on my part and I giving advices based on random speculations is a goddam dangerous thing which is why I haven't until now.
Anyway I'll fuck off for real now, I'm just mad at people treating newcomers full of hope, longing and love like they're pieces of shit not worth their time when they won't even have or refuse to give the answers.

>>40873445
>You sound like a good person, best advice I can give you is to leave this place, there's no love to find here, only perversion and people attacking each other

Thanks mate, you seem like a good person too. Unfortunately that's pretty typical of occult spaces. Especially controversial topics like this one. This is one of the only places that doesn't think succs are evil.

>As for getting a MGE girlfriend I did try before multiple times without success, most spirits will only adopt the 2d look for a short while but go back to 3d at some point, like Chant said your best course of action is to try and reach out to the astral plane, since everything exist out there then the MGE world does too, at least in theory, and you might meet the love of your life.

I wouldn't expect them to stay 2D. What happened in your case? Give me every detail, if you're willing. The latest thing I've been trying is to petition bune for help, but I've got no responses so far.

>>40873526
Do you think they'd be willing to send a succ who's willing to go to MGE with me after I die is possible?

>>40873550
Possibly but I'm not a fan of dying to achieve things. Even in death you'd have to navigate between a true idea of the MGE and soul cage afterlives that look like it.

>>40873375
>he himself is back peddling after his shit has been called out
I’m gonna tell you what I told you a long time ago. No one is under any obligation to describe their practice, just so you can poke holes in it, squeal “armchair occultist” p, and then pretend like you won. But go ahead, squeal some more, it only proves my point further
> Post a reference link to this or a screenshot.
Now here's a real galaxy brain move I’m gonna pull and it’s gonna blow your mind, because you can’t conceive of doing this. I’m going to admit to a mistake. It’s actually the Liber Null, not his intro to magik like I had thought. Yet at the same time it’s still part of the same diarrhea drivel stream of consciousness you get from Chaos Magik and Thelema along with its bastard offshoots.
Still interesting to me that you hide behind your daddy figures.
> Says the guy who cannot even tell me if spirits see the future
Again, not the point here, and you act like divination is like watching a movie or some shit.
>Minors aren't allowed here.
I’m sure that’s extremely disappointing for you.
> I'm more interested in the occult tho.
Licking Crowleys asshole from beyond the grave is not an interest in the occult. More like a compulsion stemming from your constant appeals to your favorite occult daddy figures.

>>40873550
>you seem like a good person too.
Sadly I'm not, and you should be careful of anyone telling you they are.
>This is one of the only places that doesn't think succs are evil.
Yes but it degenerated over time due to a lot of factors that I won't expand upon here, finding information of substance and trying to see through who is full of shit or not as a newcomer is really hard.
>I wouldn't expect them to stay 2D.
I mean 3d mamono are cool too but there's something special about 2d or 2.5d "graphics" that highly appealing to me.
>What happened in your case? Give me every detail, if you're willing.
Well assuming you get a spirit that actually is willing to cosplay for you, the thing is that they all "loose" their costume over time and revert to their original apparence, for example she might be a latina under the cosplay and you'll regulary see her like that instead of a MGE, she'll also adapt to the fantasies you have at the time rather than sticking to the role you want, like for example if you start thinking of a manticore you might see one, but after like 10min either she will switch to something like of her choosing like another scenario and girl look, I've seen a psychedelic rotting zombie face before for example, or your thoughts will wander and she'll adapt the mental pictures to it, like let's say instead of a manticore you start thinking about your coworker, it isn't reliable over time at all.
>The latest thing I've been trying is to petition bune for help, but I've got no responses so far.
Bune is one of the nicest spirits I've met so far, gave me big sister vibes, I only had a regular round mirror up, a cigarette smoking for incense, a tealight candle and a letter with her sigil and name on it and my petition all while using her enn chanting in video non stop, this method is flimsy at best but if she want to reply you'll start feeling tired and some kind of scenario will play in your mind or you'll dream of it the tricky part is if trickster spirit

>>40873571
What do you mean soul cage? What do you think happens when we die?

>>40873579
If you don't attatch yourself to anything, reincarnation is the default. Attatch yourself to an idea of an afterlife and you get stuck there because that's a magically binding contract that's not easy to break. It really makes junk like Christianity bad because that tricks people with false ideas of love just to put you in a place to be manipulated by evil spirits. They break down people's will and convince them they'll never get strong on their own and that they have no choice.

People who died with a certain amount of will can become ghosts if they don't reincarnate. Some ghosts are just echoes of an incarnation of a person and some just are the person. Ghosts can be bound to locations but others can move places on the etherial plane and particularly strong/skilled souls can move between the other higher planes.

>>40873495
If there’s one thing that can’t be done irl it’s making the average basement dweller into a hot woman. Therefore it makes sense that desperate troons would turn to the occult for that. It’s not that they make it that way, more it’s like finding and mining gold for them.
> They want the magical power of the spiritual world, but they also want the pleasures of the physical world without having to incarnate on this Earth.
Again, what does that have to do with how they interact with individuals? That someone without guardians goes to these entities as a broken person? Again, that on a case by case basis.
> I mean yeah, the big guys up top love this shit. It makes them feel enormously righteous (and smug) because allows them to flex their authority without actually do anything
And so again, why would you summon them at all? People who do their own bespoke versions of summoning only seem to ask them questions that can be asked to other entities, without associating with the unsavory.
> Yeah, they WOULD like to grant you a mountain of gold to go back to their domain because it would be quicker, but they don't control the physical world to that extent. And they know, that the summoner is just going to keep summoning with unfullfiable requests.
Dude, I don’t even know what you’re getting at here. The point is that summoning the spirits you listed is just summoning the queens with different bells added to it. Clearly we both agree that these things are multi dimensional, but I attribute the grooming and fem coming to just being traits which anons had to begin with. My own experience reinforces this, because I’m not a troon, rapper, and femdom has only been a novel realm of exploration for me. Something interesting to dissect, in the same way it’s interesting to dissect a frog. Doesn’t mean I have trash cans full of dead frogs.
> An ape with shotgun should be taken seriously,
And what is an ape with a gun to kit’ed out John wick?

Clitty docking with succ.

>>40873550
PS - I need to tell you this, I don't care if others agree or not but before you learn anything else, start with protection, I don't care from which current it is but never open yourself up to just any random spirit passing by, also try the Become a Living God forum, it's a decent alternative to this place, Wizardforum too, good luck.

Man, I should stop trying to get close to people. Every time I start getting positive attention from them I walk away. It's like there are two people inside of me. The sweetest guy you will ever meet and a fucking psychopath.

I need to learn my place.

Also, someone is using my email account to log in several places, my EA account, crypto sites. Well, that's some autism right there. It's useless, I got rid of all my crypto a while back and there's nothing that the email can be used for outside of reading spam on my inbox and watching Disney with my niece.

I am gonna play my gachas, take a nap and once I wake up I will check out bloodborne.

I will see if I get started on the development of a compendium with AI assistants. I found out that Ai can be useful to brainstorm and I want to keep track of what I write so I don't make mistakes.

It will be like a database for my universe and I will see if I can sell it as a service too if it works well enough.

I am aware that there are similar tools out there, it's more of a personal need that I want to resell.

So, I went to the shower to masturbate to a cute romantic video, but when I got there I saw a hot Arab on my feed and I couldn't resist.


Enjoy your succs, guys. I don't mean to start arguments. Over anything. And I do like the paranormal and I am not trying to discredit your succs. I am not here to troll either, but I have a flair for the dramatic and I am very performative, and my beliefs are real.

Please, enjoy the company of your succs while relax.

>>40873674
Become a Living God gets high off its own supply sometimes though. There's a fair amount of delusion and scammers there and it's hard to tell what's legit for a newcomer.

>>40873693
Agreed with you, and if you see the current state of Koetting he doesn't seem to be totally fine up there but I don't expect him to start spending 10000 euros on a book if he's just starting, also Wizardforum should provide most of them to satisfy his curiosity anyway, but typing keywords in Balg and finding threads on succubi or evocation and protection is imo a better place to start with than here, I also don't want to push him toward a certain direction, he'll naturally find what's appealing to him and what work for him or not, everyone's on their own journey in the end.
But yes, you're right, the warning is needed too.

why do you all constantly sexualize lilith? you know she's not like that right? u are being fucking baited

>>40873578
>Sadly I'm not, and you should be careful of anyone telling you they are.
I think most people are good inately, although I would be wary of someone who sings their own praises constantly.

>I mean 3d mamono are cool too but there's something special about 2d or 2.5d "graphics" that highly appealing to me.

I get that, but I also think If there's a chance they're real, they're probably 3d.

>Well assuming you get a spirit that actually is willing to cosplay for you, the thing is that they all "loose" their costume over time and revert to their original apparence, for example she might be a latina under the cosplay and you'll regulary see her like that instead of a MGE, she'll also adapt to the fantasies you have at the time rather than sticking to the role you want, like for example if you start thinking of a manticore you might see one, but after like 10min either she will switch to something like of her choosing like another scenario and girl look, I've seen a psychedelic rotting zombie face before for example, or your thoughts will wander and she'll adapt the mental pictures to it, like let's say instead of a manticore you start thinking about your coworker, it isn't reliable over time at all.

That's not so bad, if that's all cosplaying is. I thought they'd keep up the lie or something.

>Bune is one of the nicest spirits I've met so far, gave me big sister vibes, I only had a regular round mirror up, a cigarette smoking for incense, a tealight candle and a letter with her sigil and name on it and my petition all while using her enn chanting in video non stop, this method is flimsy at best but if she want to reply you'll start feeling tired and some kind of scenario will play in your mind or you'll dream of it the tricky part is if trickster spirit

Sadly I can't do a ritual like that due to my living situation. Been thinking of making a mini altar out of a mint tin. Just so I have something consistent for them. How do you avoid trickter spirits?

>>40873621
Where did you find all this out/what makes you believe this? This line of thinking would only make me extremely paranoid of literally everything imo.
>>40873674
I know the LBRP and have psychic self-defense by Dion fortune. Haven't read it yet tho. What would you recommend other than those forums?

>>40873800
When I invoked Lilith I felt pleasure on dick and asked for it to stop. I never intended to do anything sexual with her, it kinda scared me a bit. Worried I disrespected her

>>40873892
A lot of conversations with people in places that no longer exist. It didn't scare me when I found out because it made sense but it really made me sad and angry for the injustice that was going on. Immortality is also possible. But you have to survive long enough and have enough spirits that like you to find the way.

Do enough psychic stuff and you'll run into spirits and people with bodies who will tell you more. Have you opened your chakras yet?

>>40873875
>Sadly I can't do a ritual like that due to my living situation.
Understandable but just burning a letter method won't be enough to guarantee results, your idea of having a mini altar is a good alternative, give prayers to her and research what she does, where she come from, what he personnality seem like, for example a lot of people associate her with Wadjet from Egyptian mythology the sheer fact that you picked her out of all the other spirits is a sign she's calling to you so I suggest going further along.
>Been thinking of making a mini altar out of a mint tin.
You don't even have to start with an altar, I suggested alternative methods to you and any token you feel might represent her is enough of a symbol to establish a connexion, and, over time be charged with her energies.
>How do you avoid trickter spirits?
Sadly the only reliable method I found so far is to gauge the strength of their energetic presence when in the room, for example not being able to move or breath due to how powerful they are, it's unmistakable and not just a random feeling of something being around you, of course it doesn't happen all the time but it's a great way to make sure, second is the vision they show you in mind, tricksters tend to be lacking and stick to what you expect the spirit to look like and how it should behave, a real one will show you things way more clearly, can flash their sigil without it being wrong, with a set scenario like a movie rather than random flashes, also they don't stick to what's expected of them, you might be like "Wtf why did they appear to me this way?" only to do a bit of research and find out it's one of the way they manifest or it has some symbolic ties to them.
>>40873892
>I know the LBRP and have psychic self-defense by Dion fortune. Haven't read it yet tho. What would you recommend other than those forums?
Great start, make sure your living space is clean and try some Jason Miller books and Hoodoo ones, try things out and learn planets

>>40873892
>>40873969
Lastly do not underestimate the power of youtube, there's a lot of really obscure topics being explained there in great obsessive details and known occultists teaching concepts, this video for example, note that I won't claim the guy is right but it's a good food for thoughts and a way to deepen your understanding of esoteric concepts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCUxEckYIZ8
And avoid at all cost buying services from "known occultists" no matter how famous they are or how serious they look.

>>40873307
Why ask Lilith for a succubus? I mean it's all about name brand recognition, but now I feel like there's some weird animosity with male spirits? Maybe some perceived competition, like is saying Lucifer being able to provide the same boons somehow making Lilith less special? I don't get it. It's certainly not outside the power of Lucifer to grant you a succubus. Hell, historically that's who we thought controlled them, Lilith is as a succubus queen is relatively modern, unless we go way back to her being a type of night demon species. These succubi would be from a culture where masculine forms would be viewed as icons of worship, just like how succubi associated with Lilith view the feminine form as an icon of worship. I get this sounds ego-centric but if you are considering yourself important enough to gain Lilith's attention, then Lucifer isn't far above her.
>>40873659
>average basement dweller into a hot woman.
I mean trans people will try to transition anyway, it's really a masculine gooner fantasy to become some big-titty sex idol.
>what does that have to do with how they interact with individuals
It implies an opportunistic relationship that you just described with your Baldur's Gate analogy, somewhat predatory as well. Imagine if you got paid to breathe, while the man has to do all the magical work. What happens if you cleaned yourself up and actually become sweet on a girl? To the Succubus that source of basically free sexual energy is about to be ripped away from them.
>why would you summon them at all?
First would be observation, you hear of a spirit named Lucifer and all the mystical deeds he's accomplished, you summon him using the angels as protection. Subsequent summoning would not be so dramatic, and would be like a quick meeting. Not really unsavory, it's just how the process works.
>femdom
Turn back, traveler, here be dragons.
>John wick?
John Wick would be Michael looking down at Lucifer and saying 'want to go again?'

>>40874182
Fuck mine
I GOTTA DO I5 AGAIN YOU SICK FUCK

>>40873937
I've done some charka work in the past, this was back when people on this thread were recommending the joy of Satan stuff.
>>40873969
Wadjet huh? I'll start reading more about her.

>You don't even have to start with an altar, I suggested alternative methods to you and any token you feel might represent her is enough of a symbol to establish a connexion, and, over time be charged with her energies.

I've wanted to get a copper coin of her sigil for some time, you think that could work?

>Sadly the only reliable method I found so far is to gauge the strength of their energetic presence when in the room, for example not being able to move or breath due to how powerful they are, it's unmistakable and not just a random feeling of something being around you, of course it doesn't happen all the time but it's a great way to make sure, second is the vision they show you in mind, tricksters tend to be lacking and stick to what you expect the spirit to look like and how it should behave, a real one will show you things way more clearly, can flash their sigil without it being wrong, with a set scenario like a movie rather than random flashes, also they don't stick to what's expected of them, you might be like "Wtf why did they appear to me this way?" only to do a bit of research and find out it's one of the way they manifest or it has some symbolic ties to them.

Got it, thanks anon.

> Great start, make sure your living space is clean and try some Jason Miller books and Hoodoo ones, try things out and learn planets

I have consorting with spirits, I'll look into more of his stuff.

>>40873999

Thanks, for the channel recommendation too! Could use more occult tubers, only one I really watched was foolish fish.

>>40873431
>Why would (we) be above them?
Because if we imagine a hypothetical model of metaphysics that ALLOWS for "fictional universes" to be real in some sense, that has *implications.*

A good example: Jokes.
Every group a comedically-assorted professionals that walks into a bar would be its own little island of existence for the sole purpose of conveying an IDEA (the joke, in this case).
And there would be one for every joke, whether it had ever been told by a person or not. And there would also be an even lower, more wretched assortment of universes for every joke TOLD WRONG (i.e. "wait, let me start over..." as kids do.)

So imagine how limited such a universe would be. Its cosmically horrifying.
A universe that's JUST a bar with a priest, engineer, and pimp walking in or whatever?
And so MGE would be a lot MORE of a universe than the "minimal example" of a joke, but still probably limited in really cosmically horrifying ways, not least of which because the setting seems doomed by the effects of the monster girls themselves.

>>40874292
Already did

>>40874328
>Wadjet huh? I'll start reading more about her.
Don't take my word for it, the more time you spend researching her by yourself and coming to your own conclusions, even if wrong, the more you'll align with her and the easier it'll be to contact her, a lot of people call it tuning your frequency like a radio to the bandwidth of the spirit you want to contact and it's current.
>I've wanted to get a copper coin of her sigil for some time, you think that could work?
Don't ask me, it's not my relationship with her, trust your gut feeling and experiment, don't be afraid to be wrong or fail, nobody's good at anything when they start it.
>Could use more occult tubers, only one I really watched was foolish fish.
You could check Satania, Legion of Lilith, Vk Jehannum, Behemot-X, Enoch Petrucelly, Esoterica, Formscapes and lot more, never ever take someone's word as gospel, only suggestions and see for yourself what make sense and what doesn't, what work or not.
I know it's a lot, and you'll be frustrated, often, it's like walking in the dark with only a few guideposts and a lot of malicious whispers but everyone else is going through it and that's the nature of the occult.

>>40871889
I don't know about that, they've always been very direct with me about their intentions and haven't spoken down to me
Summoning a succubus is completely different from requesting a sexual servitor. What even is that? A sex slave? Obedient, loyal, calls you master... That's a sex slave. Does Lilith know that her boytoys are passing around sex slaves?
>tobit
No... It's about how yhwh's angel stole a girl from her spirit husband and forced her to marry a jew

>>40872328
>Joseph De La Reina
Read the wikipedia and you'll see that's proof of nothing

>>40872771
I have no idea which poster you are or what point you think you're making

>>40873326
Why are you talking about yourself in third person?

>>40873363
>they're lower universes than even our own
Proof?

>>40874388
>Proof?
lolno, this is as UPG as it gets, but here's the rationale: >>40874345


Side note: Our universe would also be "doomed" by entropy, which gives us way more time and a higher ceiling on complexity compared to anything fictional, but "in a perfect world", as the saying goes (or at least MORE perfect), we might imagine the mechanics work in an even more favorable way.

>>40873999
These myths all happen at the same time. We are all Jupiter devoured inside Saturn. Thats why materialistic larpers cant find Jupiter in Mt Olympus.
And when you die, well, that's when Cybele rescue your soul from his stomach.

>>40873307
>>40873326
Lucifer is female. It was a epiteth for Venus.

dudes, come on.

a whole /x/ dedicated to horny dudes about "monster girls"?

bruv.

>>40874663
I've been a virgin, a man, with libido up or down, with desires, received and gave desires, etc, and I've experienced quite a bit in my life with all the bs, and I have to say, this MGE/succubus/wtf is the most cringe retarded bullshit I have ever witnessed.

Go work out and get a life and stop masturbating.

Holy fuck, does the government pay for this?

>>40874689
nobody who posts this shit has ever given a woman an orgasm to remember. unholy fuck is this lame as unholy fuck. unholy fucking fuck.

WOW.

quit your jobs, do some manual labor or something. anything but this, HAHAHA.

>>40874388
>A sex slave?
I think your blog post on 'pet incubi' serves a good example of what I'm talking about. I guess slavery is okay when it's men? But I am thinking more like an Optio to a Centurion, a distinguished and capable subordinate that goes beyond just basic indulgence. They are there to serve, kick your ass into gear, and their station is indefinite until further orders.
>No... It's about
That's...a generous interpretation for an apocryphal work. The point is not too take stories, especially Jewish texts, too literally, Asmodeus can represent a lot of things other than the actual demon, for some its how about gentiles were forcing Jews to marry off their daughters, others its how a woman can drive a man crazy, others is about how tyrants soil the nation. The point is Asmodeus is a character in a story, not a documentary.
>Read the wikipedia and you'll see that's proof of nothing
...Chant the purpose of that line was to give an direct example of Asmodeus being cunning and deceiving the summoner Reina into committing idolatry, thereby breaking the control Reina had over Asmodeus? I don't see how dismissing THAT story after coming to the conclusion that Book of Tobit is some tragic love story, makes any sense.
>Why are you talking about yourself in third person?
That's not me, Chant.

>>40874345
>Everyone's next incarnation is a WH40k because the Warp is a self-sustaining eregore that expands and is powered by the absolute shittiness of its own universe. Monster Girls are just sanctioned abhumans. You don't even experience the horrors of the limited universe because you die in wave 2 out of 20 trying to take the planetary fortress.

>>40874663
>>40874689
>>40874701
Based David. Telling it how it is.

>>40874807
Goodbye mine
Now that the moderation stopped banning me it's not fun anymore.

I'd love to bang you, I don't care what you are or what you look like. Goodbye cutie.

https://youtu.be/XKKvgrMADPw?si=RtH1ex1Zqxq4OvDg

>>40866719
>Maybe he's naturally submissive (way more common than women being dominant) and then its just like, "Oh! A cock! Well, I was kneeling down here anyway... *nom*"
Being a submissive guy doesnt mean you like dick.

>>40873288
>Do you think making a sigil to contact thege MGE gods might work?
If you make a sigil of contact you'll almost certainly contact someone. If you don't it's just a lack of determination. However, that doesn't mean you'll get you you think you're talking to. "Lilith" might be the first succubus who goes by that name you stumble across. I've said before to others that you shouldn't worry about what species of spirit you're with, only that you make one another happy. Think about what you want for your relationship. Think about what your partner should do rather than be. Obviously you'll find someone you're attracted to, that's not useful. Think about how you'd like her to act

>>40873307
Joy of satan says to do that

>>40874433
Mine, upg doesn't just mean "I made it up lol" just as evolution isn't just a theory. Personal opinions based on a complete lack on knowledge aren't proof

>>40874807
>pet incubi
I just reread that post. It's great. If I'd written it a bit later I'd have mentioned clickers but oh well
>I guess slavery is okay when it's men?
That was one of those posts I make where you need to pick out the strange bits to see what I'm saying
>a generous interpretation for an apocryphal work.
My interpretation is more amusing, especially when a lot of ancient rape was eloping with someone your parents didn't like. Don't take it so seriously
>deceiving the summoner Reina into committing idolatry,
So are you being tricked? You'd know if you were, right? What could possibly go wrong?
People have summoned succubi the regular way through Asmodeus

>>40874663
>>40874689
>>40874701
Imagine living your life like Hank hill and thinking that's okay

>>40871551
Can you draw the inverse of that image please? I'll ask an AI too. <3

>>40875019
aizen?

>>40840120
I know someone who was raped during her teenage years, violently on the street (dangers in South Africa). She lost her virginity this way and she was traumatized for life. Decades later she is now mostly healthy, but rather timid or docile even though she organizes social events and parties. But I noticed spirits make her do certain creative endeavours for same events, but in public transport because she has no time (very busy life). She sits on a train and makes a cake or similar, this is very abnormal and humiliating for most yet she doesn't mind, of course. I believe spirits are trying to open her up and get her out of that deep trauma that timid and shy personality. However, my question is, why would something like this happen? She is a gentle and rather nice woman, is it because of something she did in a previous or concurrent life? Or is it because a specific group of entities are with her that create these harsh destructive scenarios and nothing else.

>>40875507
there is power and wisdom in the archtypes presented in KOTH. Be it Cotton, Hank, Bobby, or Gribble. The only characters you don't want to be are the other ones like Bill, Peggy or Kahn

Dalemaxxed btw

>>40875349
>Mine, upg doesn't just mean "I made it up lol"
Correct. It means, "It came to me in a dream lol", as any non-hylic would know.

You're really starting to hit rock bottom here, btw.
Literally trying to argue that "PERSONAL gnosis" needs to be externally verified.
WEW LASS

>>40875298
I don't like dick!
I like HER dick! >:3

>>40875915
Fair but they're also archetypes of stasis

>>40875995
>HER dick
>HER
>dick
Akin to "feminine penis" or "pregnant male". The absolute state of man. kek

>>40876049
I've already made all these jokes myself.
Her cock is pale, sleek, and elegant with a delicate scent. A literal "Feminum benis" :3

>>40876062
>Her cock is pale, sleek, and elegant with a delicate scent.
You mean clean and hygienic? Are you sure you want to attribute those traits to be "feminine"? What does a masculine dick look like then? Sasquatch cock?

>>40876132
>>Her cock is pale, sleek, and elegant with a delicate scent.
>Are you sure you want to attribute those traits to be "feminine"?
>What does a masculine dick look like then?
Purple, veiny, and imposing with a musky scent.

>>40874182
>I mean trans people will try to transition anyway,
And they fail because it ps impossible. So th turn to places like here in hopes magic will save them. This is an obersavble fact.
> It implies an opportunistic relationship that you just described with your Baldur's Gate analogy, somewhat predatory as well.
And you think you won’t establish a predatory relationship with you as prey to the spirits you’ve already described? That’s being either willfully ignorant, or fanciful in the extreme
> First would be observation, you hear of a spirit named Lucifer and all the mystical deeds he's accomplished,
And the same could be said for literally any other entity. Why not channel Ero, If you’re not a fan of appealing to feminine entities? You’re describing a matter of choice, only the choice is between summoning a dpitbull, vs an extremely antisocial cat. All of this is your own preference, and ideas. And it’s clearly a fixation, that only you have.
>here be dragons
I am the one writing “hic sunt dracones” on the map.
>Michael
You missed the point of the metaphor, compared to these entities, a flesh bound sorcerer is going to be a monkey waving a shotgun up against John Wick
Honestly seems like you’re the only one who would ever advocate for summoning Lucifer and asmodeus to get a servitor as a gf, which, a servitor gf? That not only sounds gross as fuck, but I’ve never heard of someone legitimately suggesting that outside this thread. Keep going with your own pet ideas dude, they’re for you and only you, because only you think they’re good ideas.

>>40874388
That your shit is wishy washy, and you mostly based on your own feelings, Chant. I’m amazed you think you’re so informed and logical, when you need this spelled out to you.

>>40875349
>you make a sigil of contact you'll almost certainly contact someone. If you don't it's just a lack of determination. However, that doesn't mean you'll get you you think you're talking to. "Lilith" might be the first succubus who goes by that name you stumble across. I've said before to others that you shouldn't worry about what species of spirit you're with, only that you make one another happy. Think about what you want for your relationship. Think about what your partner should do rather than be. Obviously you'll find someone you're attracted to, that's not useful. Think about how you'd like her to act

Thanks, I'm just worried about attracting a parasite or imposter spirit

>>40874462
I've seen people say he comes to them in a female form

>>40874383
Thank you for responding man, I really appreciate it. Gonna check out some of those YouTubers later.

>>40874345
I mean that's just one model though, It's kind of like how people work with the necronomicon and get results.

>>40876400
>I mean that's just one model though
We either have a multiverse or we don't.

If we do, it also includes what we think of as "fictional universes" or it doesn't.

If it does, then it also either includes universes with radically different physics and logical contradictions, or it doesn't.

You would need that final option for MGE to "exist somewhere" as a universe in the uncompromised form that fanboys would demand, and that would have the logical implications I discussed.

The only alternative would be some kind of "close enough" universe that has a more complete form, but that's basically back to just what I keep telling the MGEfags: "Look for something in reality that's close enough".

>>40875773
We are imposed to endure this world, the caveat in endurance is overcoming or perishment. It applies to all sections in our life, what can be maintained what has to be pruned away. The younger the person is when said (or any) incidents take place the more defining their trajectory become, ordinary people cannot step outside their experience and see what their circumstance is or how it defines their existence. Confining a person is easiest way to ensure which way their direction takes place, and that is one of the initial premises most spirits would pursue for its convenience. Spirits around us define most things happening, in a way or another, very few people can snap out of it. Gravitating a person for one second to an unforeseeable event, just because they felt like this. Later on as we grow people dismiss a lot of their feelings and intuition, because they have become so conditioned to people and system around them, they couldn't think or behave any other way, even if it popped to their head like a lightning. 99% of people you see life predetermined life, because they cannot say no to their energy, humans have the capability to refrain from all action ceasing the cascading effect of rearranging themselves. Being raped is one small problem we may encounter in our daily lives, the world is much much worse than that, and nobody can change it. Even the system is built for rape, for none of those are executed then and there. It is spirits vested interest to refine people and make them overcome, otherwise they stop acting and reacting, and when that happens the life is pointless.

>>40876167
>Purple, veiny, and imposing with a musky scent.
That's the penis of a monster, anon, not another human being.

>>40876520
[insert feminism joke here]

>>40876400
>Thank you for responding man, I really appreciate it. Gonna check out some of those YouTubers later.
No problem, there's channels dedicated to pretty much anything out there, some more recommendations would be Universal Mastery, Shaman Philosopher, Mirta Wake, Lee W Johnson, The Black Tower, The 5th Kind, Occult Works and much much more, it's sort of mainstream now I guess.
Book wise I need to add The Psychonaut Field Manual, The Demonolater's Handbook, Demonolatry 101, Planetary Magick: The Heart of Western Magick, Protection and Reversal Magick etc.
>>40876441
He's making a really good point, most important of all tho, would be, in my opinion, to skip rituals or senses opening and all that occult stuff to focus on Astral Travel and Lucid Dreaming instead, if what you want really is something as close to possible from getting the MGE experience then you most likely won't find it in this "reality", only close copies of it, even psychedelics won't offer you that, also note that some entities can help you with astral travel so it's worth looking into as well.
Basically align your practice and focus to the goals you have to reach.

>>40876618
>>40876618
>>40876618
NEW THREAD~ (and not early!)

>>40876529
dude's brain is overrun by worms, it sounds like