Thread 40856046

So do just hallucinate when you try psychedelics or does your consciousness really enter a non-material plane?

>>40856046 (OP)
its the same thing as dreaming and visions

subjective, try and tell us.

>>40856046 (OP)
It’s definitely not just cool colors and funny feelings.

>>40856088
is that sarcastic?

>>40856046 (OP)
Your consciousness is always in a non-material plane. You realize that on psychedelics but then forget it when you come down. If you love the truth then make it your waking reality, realize it without using drugs.

As a very avid user of psychedelics, my honest answer is… I have no fucking clue.

It’s really easy to write off everything you see under the influence as simply being products of your imagination until you actually experience a legit info download or certain types of entities firsthand. A lot of psychedelics users never actually accomplish this, or read about this stuff beforehand and trick themselves, so the internet is full of really ridiculous info.

For instance, on LSD I had visions of mantids, 4 dimensional entities, loosh farming, etc, and wrote them off as “crazy trips.” Years later I was shocked to come across people talking about this stuff online, and went “wait… I saw the same shit… how?” For a while I just assumed maybe it was just something innate with the chemical experience, until I tried DMT.

I’ve straight up seen things and had conversations that contained information that hours or even days later I could confirm, much of which required me to actually do pretty serious research to even find out what the fuck they were talking about. Once I had an entity tell me something was about to happen in my personal life, weeks before it happened. I’ve seen and been told things rooted in religious lore, astronomy, astrology, and mythology that I had NO awareness of beforehand, but it was presented with total accuracy, and I was able to corroborate all of it after the fact. Not in the middle of a half-high state directly after where you’re still loopy, but in total sobriety.

At a certain point you just accept it for what it is, and know that you can’t really know, and aren’t supposed to. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either full of shit, hasn’t actually experienced stuff like this, or will believe anything they see under the influence. My honest belief is it’s a mix, and that psychedelics simply widen the band and fidelity of whatever channels your mind can receive on. Doesn’t mean it’s all legit, but some is.

It feels like when you're dreaming. Reality does kinda break a little bit, like the shit you see and feels only real enough due to the fact that it contains things from your reality that you're aware of and they ground you a little bit

But something like DMT or salvia for example just fucking sucker punches you out of the grounding and sends you into a straight up different realm altogether

>>40856046 (OP)
You can get light-headed getting throatfucked. Looks like 2 or more dicks sometimes, maybe it is?

>>40856322
checked. huge if true

>>40856046 (OP)
Your body is a conciousness receiver. Taking hallucinogenics fuck with the programming and allow you to see things we aren't supposed to see. Other dimensions, and entities etc.

The fact that most people experience things such as Machine Elves or other entities without knowledge of them before hand proves this.

I think most hallucinogenics just fuck with our perceptions though. The real shit, DMT, allows you to tune into different realities.

>>40856046 (OP)

Paranormal phenomena, UFOs, and alien sightings are mechanisms for "waking up" individuals to the broader reality of consciousness. These experiences are potentially engineered by the consciousness system to help people realize the limits of their current understanding.

They make the subconscious conscious. For example: If you're seeing demons, it's because that's what you've trained your subconscious to habitualize. The extent to which you let fear control your mind is the extent to which your mind will enslave you with demonic paranormal phenomena. If you've built healthy habits, you may see angels or nothing at all because you've trained your subconscious to be able to deal with the world in a self-reliant manner. For such a person, nothing can scare them, so why would their consciousness spawn something as useless as demons?

>>40856046 (OP)
Your very consciousness (and thus subjective reality itself) takes on a very fluidic feel. On higher doses at the peak of a trip it becomes almost impossible to maintain a sense of individual self, and your consciousness starts to skirt around the edge of a singularity. If you let go you and allow it to overwhelm you, you don't just leave the material plane, you disappear completely and what is left feels like god, or at least the part of our minds that generate reality as we know it, the wizard that makes the grass green.

>>40856046 (OP)
this shit is of the most interesting substances you can experience, even unlike other dissos.
experienced the craziest synchronicites and had the most spiritual energy out of all the drugs i have tried
pic rel

>>40856046 (OP)
When I take 5-htp before bed the sleep paralysis is like being in a different reality and the feeling of the night hag is no different than real life.

Usually the experiences I get are levitating in my bed, being touched by hands, and hearing voices in my room. I have talked to them before with success, one asked me for my name after we made out on my bed.

Hallucinating i've experienced on robotussin, diphenadramine and 2-CB, but 5htp makes it so you feel the onset of paralysis as you wake up
(tingles over your body), the trick is to not fight it, but if you stay in the liminal state, you will start feeling another "person" in your room. This can be due to either a Tryptamine entity, or your double as you are outside your body.

Usually the fun stuff is when you get out of body in a zero gravity version of your room that you can bump into stuff while floating around.

>>40856046 (OP)
>So do just hallucinate when you try psychedelics
Yes
>or does your consciousness really enter a non-material plane?
Yes

>>40856046 (OP)
Consciousness is already non-material. I use psychedelics to talk to gods and spirits.

>>40856046 (OP)
the realm you call the material plane is just your collapsed linearity from a memory of infinity
psychedelics and other practices that take you to a lucid hypnogofic state can break through the filters of linearity into the kaos of infinity
that kaos is always around
you just filtered out like how animals can see colors that are invisible to the human eye

you don't hallucinate on a regular dose of psychedelics, things just get wavy and breathing. If you want to hallucinate and have an OBE take a high dose of DXM

>>40856046 (OP)
They are just a placebo effect like literally everything else. Eat a normal gummy and repeat to yourself "this will cause x effect."

>>40856046 (OP)
Read them in this order, you will know where you go
1. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36931222/#36931222
2. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36976168/#36976168
3. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37023268/#37023268
4. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37093515/#37093515
5. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37134196/#37134196
6. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37237392/#37237392
7. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37333243/#37333243

>>40858074
I wish placebo effects were so powerful and easy.