So some people are saying Jesus is a devil, a demon, Lucifer or Satan. What’s the truth? What do you know about Jesus? I’ve seen him but he didn’t say anything, so I don’t have data.

no one has data?

>>40885407 (OP)
Just look at the sort of people who say that and make a determination about whether or not their opinions are worth anything based on how they live

Jesus is the only begotten son of God. He was sent to Earth to show the way and be way back to paradise. Anyone telling you that Jesus is made up, a demon, or just a man is misinformed, ignoring contemporary historical evidence (both Christian and non-Christian), or straight up lying to you.

>>40885407 (OP)
An amalgamation of occult deities (Mithra/Osiris/Jupiter) and the stories of Julius Caesar.

See:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/38038729/

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37109783/

>>40885407 (OP)
Lucifer isn’t a name. It just means lightbringer. Jesus would consider himself lucifer

>>40885407 (OP)
AI swill

>>40885407 (OP)
Rabbi Yeshua was a jewish man born in Bethlehem, Judea and circumcised in a synagogue. His mother Miriam was a jewish woman who claimed to be a virgin while pregnant with him (lol)

>>40885677
Jesus was not circumcised.

Circumcision of infants causes brain damage... the mind becomes scarred.

>>40885727
Water of the Azurite Lord, which brings forth nourishment, is the name of this region.

>>40885407 (OP)
The ultimate of human existence, the culmination of all history and suffering, and the sole light of the world.

>>40885693
>>Is named Lucifer
>>Lies about the Son of God (Luke 2:21)
Get behind me, Satan

>>40885693
>Yes, Jesus was circumcised. According to the Gospel of Luke, he was circumcised on the eighth day after his birth, in accordance with Jewish tradition and the Mosaic Law
Read the Bible retard

>>40885710
Probably

>>40885630
>Lucifer isn’t a name
It's literally a name. He's the child of the Roman goddess Aurora.

>>40885852
You should read it more closely. More critically.

>Luke's account of Jesus's circumcision is extremely short, particularly compared to Paul the Apostle's much fuller description of his own circumcision in the third chapter of his Epistle to the Philippians. This led theologians Friedrich Schleiermacher and David Strauss to speculate that the author of the Gospel of Luke might have assumed the circumcision to be historical fact, or might have been relating it as recalled by someone else...

>The Gospel of Luke does not name its author. The Gospel was not, nor does it claim to be, written by direct witnesses to the reported events, unlike Acts beginning in the sixteenth chapter.

Who is it that lies?

>>40885407 (OP)
Jesus was YHWH come to atone for all the evil shit He ordered the Jews to do in Old Testament, to set up a state of mutual forgiveness and wipe the slate clean (blood for blood).

This created a new covenant for all people and now God doesn't order us to do evil shit (genocides, etc) anymore, so the rest of history has been on us.

Jesus' crucifixion was symbolic of descending into Hades and being reborn through the Abyssal womb, as God returning to a blank slate.

The Word had to be Reborn through the Abyss.

God integrated His anima.

>>40885407 (OP)
Yeshua Hamashiach is the son of God, King of Israel and The Israelites, Prince of the Gentile God-fearers, High Priest of the Temple and Rule of The Earth

>>40886007
Lucifer-Asmodeus is the "god" Worshipped by Muslims when The Prophet Muhammad was seduced and tricked by him

>>40886015
>Yeshua Hamashiach is the son of G-d, King of Israel and The Israelites, Prince of the Gentile G-d-fearers, High Priest of the Temple and Ruler of The Earth
Fixed

>>40886015
Based

I never understood how Islam is a universal religion but Qu'ran must be read in Arabic

So God only speaks Arabic now?

>>40885407 (OP)
A mahasiddha.

>>40885976
Again with the deceit. If you actually did study the New Testament, you would know that it is filled with variations of the claim that Jesus fulfilled all things to satisfy the law (Matthew 3:15) and did all things that the Father asked of him (John 16:23). He was circumcised 1) because God required it at the time and 2) because it was part of the Jewish law.

>>40886021
The Prophet was originally a convert to a sect of Jewish Christians before Lucifer-Asmodeus and his Angels(Demons) disguised themselves in the skin of the righteous and seduced the Prophet away from the teaching of Yeshua to the Lies of Lucifer-Asmodeus

>>40886043
Yes don't even need to get deep, the whole thing falls apart when you realize the paradox of Universal Religion + Requires Arabic to experience God.

Language gatekeeping.

Ethnoreligion 2.0

Basically the Arabs wanted their own Chosen Ones Judaism.

>>40885407 (OP)
Jesus is my fren.

>>40886033
I know better. Do you have proof?

Circumcision and magic don't mix, by the way...

>"God required circumcision"

Actually it's just a bunch of books... riddled with errors and lies. Show me real proof that God said any of these things.

Why would "God" demand violent rites that cause infants irreversible brain damage? I know better, like I said.

>>40886073
In Egypt circumcision was a rite of the priesthood that granted access into the mysteries.

>>40886108
... but never performed on infants.

... the Mysteries don't depend on circumcision, in any case.

>>40886073
Are you really stupid enough to ask me for proof when every claim I have made has been cited?

Mutilation of the body isn't at all necessary for Initiation. The ancient circumcision ritual was merely symbolic of the limitation of the Pharaoh; being finite, not infinite, i.e. akin to the demiurgic forces.

>>40886150
Citing the Bible as proof of the Bible proves nothing.

Do you have any proof Jesus was circumsized? I know for a fact that he was not.

>A neurologist who saw the results to postulated that the data indicated that circumcision affected most intensely the portions of the victim's brain associated with reasoning, perception and emotions. Follow up tests on the infant one day, one week and one month after the surgery indicated that the child's brain never returned to its baseline configuration. In other words, the evidence generated by this research indicated that the brain of the circumcised infant was permanently changed by the surgery...

This explains so much.

>>40886162
It proves (again) that you (A) know nothing about the Bible or (B) are intentionally deceiving people. The Bible isn’t one book, it’s a library of different accounts. If those accounts harmonize with each other (which they do), it reduces the likelihood that the individual accounts are inaccurate.

>>inb4 Q gospel/ Gospel of Sayings

Even taking into account shared source material, there is enough original content in each of the gospels to provide a robust, multi-perspective account of Jesus’ life and mission. You are a fool and your name suits you, Lucifer.

>>40886200
Who, in the Bible, was a first-hand witness of Jesus' alleged circumcision?

There are no such accounts.

Who is it that lies, according the Bible?

>>40886200
How many (total) accounts of Jesus' circumcision are there in the Bible? What harmonizes?

>>40886116
True, but it doesn't hold you back from magic. The Phoenicians were alchemists and they practiced infant circumcision.

>>40885407 (OP)
Per my understanding of the christian religion, god revealed to prophets that he would give a sacrifical lamb to cleanse mankind of sin and give them a chance at becoming one with him. Jesus is the son of god and was crucified to save humanity. Since no man was holy or clean enough to be a good enough sacrifice, he sacrificed his own son (himself since god, jesus, and the holy ghost are all one) to act as a good enough offering to free humanity from their sin because "the wages of sin are death" but in jesus there is life. That is all I know

>>40886203
>Refuses to engage with my statements and instead offers useless deflecting questions to hide how little he knows.
Read my posts again. Anyone who actually studied the New Testament (and the Old Testament, which prophesied of the coming Messiah) knows that Jesus abided by the Jewish law and adhered to the will of the Father. I know you’re short on critical thinking because you’ve been copying and pasting paragraphs straight from Wikipedia, but ask ask yourself: would a (1) cultural Orthodox Jew, (2) who others called ‘rabbi’, and (3) who is described multiple times as having perfectly followed all of God’s law, be circumcised, or not?

>>40886307
... Jesus was not circumcised, nor did he circumcise himself.

Can you think of any "Jewish laws" that Jesus did not abide by? I certainly can.

Hahaha. Oh yes, the coming Messiah... maybe you'll meet him one day.

>>40886307
Can you answer a single question I posed to you? So far you have not.

>>40886314
>>Refuses to engage with provided material again
>>asks another useless deflecting question again

>>40886331
You have not provided an answer to

>Who, in the Bible, was a first-hand witness of Jesus' alleged circumcision?

>How many (total) accounts of Jesus' circumcision are there in the Bible? What harmonizes?

Why have you attempted to evade these easy questions?

>>40886364
1. There are no first-hand witnesses of Jesus' alleged circumcision.

2. There is one (1) total reference to Jesus' alleged circumcision, from a second hand source.

I will quote from Wikipedia again, since we are covering the basics...

>The Gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles make up a two-volume work which scholars call Luke–Acts.[1] The author is not named in either volume.[2] According to a Church tradition, first attested by Irenaeus (c. 130 – c. 202 AD), he was the Luke named as a companion of Paul in three of the Pauline letters, but many modern scholars have expressed doubt that the author of Luke-Acts was the physician Luke, and critical opinion on the subject was assessed to be roughly evenly divided near the end of the 20th century.[3] The eclipse of the traditional attribution to Luke the companion of Paul has meant that an early date for the gospel is now rarely put forward.[4] Most scholars date the composition of the combined work to around 80–90 AD, although some others suggest 90–110,[5] and there is textual evidence (the conflicts between Western and Alexandrian manuscript families) that Luke–Acts was still being substantially revised well into the 2nd century.

>>40885407 (OP)
He was a human that elevated himself to Ascended Master status. Learn about Ascended Masters.

In esoteric and spiritual teachings, an ascended master is a being who has achieved a high level of spiritual enlightenment and transcendence, often through multiple lifetimes on Earth, and is believed to now exist on higher planes of existence to guide humanity. They're seen as teachers and guides for those on the spiritual path, having mastered life's lessons and overcome the need for further physical reincarnation.

Key aspects of ascended masters:

Spiritual Evolution:
Ascended masters have achieved a high level of spiritual development, often through overcoming challenges and learning from many lifetimes on Earth.

Transcending Duality:
They have transcended the limitations of the physical world and the cycle of birth and death, existing on higher planes of consciousness.

Guiding Humanity:
They serve as teachers and guides, offering wisdom, compassion, and assistance to those seeking spiritual growth.

Examples:
Figures like Jesus, Buddha, Saint Germain, and Kuan Yin are often cited as examples of ascended masters.

Not Deities:
While revered, ascended masters are not considered deities, but rather enlightened beings who were once human and experienced life on Earth.

Connection to the Divine:
They are seen as having a deep connection to the divine and can be invoked for guidance and support.

Mastery of Self:
They have mastered their own emotions and negative tendencies, demonstrating self-mastery and compassion.

Not Necessarily Visible:
Ascended masters may not always be physically present or visible, but their influence can be felt through their teachings and guidance.

Multiple Interpretations:
Different spiritual traditions and groups may have varying interpretations and beliefs about ascended masters.

>>40886375
Given that the Gospel of Luke was likely revised well into the 2nd century (two hundred years after Jesus' life) and contains only a single reference to a circumcision (and that reference merely pointing out only that it was Jewish law, with no details provided of the alleged circumcision whatsoever), one should reasonably suspect that the Luke 2:21 line is simply a later textual insertion, and not in fact, proof of anything.

>>40885407 (OP)
I heard a Satanist say that Jesus is the son of Lucifer

>>40886492

God loves those who respect the poor more than those who revere the rich. Ancient Egypt knew these things, a long long time ago...

>>40886492
Thanks anon

>>40885407 (OP)
Jesus is a mirror test of you to see what you see in him other than being the son of God or a sane person in a crazy world because he realized everyone is stupid and still stupid so he chose to love all humanity and was crucified and made a saint.

>>40887080
hmm

Barkon is God's other son who is still alive and warms people's 'earts.

>>40885407 (OP)
Have you considered reading the gospels? They are a biography of him.

>>40885407 (OP)
>Who is Jesus?
Prophet of Hermes who didn't complete his mission because he compromised with enemy parasites, lost divine magic, got crucified.
t. prophet of Aphrodite

Jesus isn't a devil or a god. He's just fake and gay and Jewish.

Jesus = Jewed Zeus

>>40885619
>Anyone telling you that Jesus is made up, a demon

Anyone telling you that Jesus isn't a Jewish invention to theologically conquer the nations is a Noahide Omega Cuck.

>>40885407 (OP)

>>40885407 (OP)
Makes more sense for jesus to be a woman, your telling me a guy with supernatural abilities claiming to be the son of the man you worship and so your leaders hand him over to the people that kill him?
>see that doesn’t make sense!
Now if it was a woman and traditionally speaking hebrews and islam treat women similarly, then it begins to make sense why they felt threatened.

If you want a real red pill, watch Know More News to learn about the Abrahamic conspiracy..

https://odysee.com/@KnowMoreNews:1/kmn-live-5:7

If you want to remain a loyal sheep to your Lord and shepherd Yehshuah ha meshisch Ben Yosef, then go ahead. Just remember what shepherds do to sheep.

The bird breaks the shell.
The shell is the world.
Whoever wants to be born must destroy a world.
The bird flies toward God.
The god is called Abraxas.

>>40885407 (OP)
He was a man that achieved perfect union with God but instead of using that to benefit others he just noped out of this universe and never came back. A bunch of Romans then built a death cult which practices in human sacrifice, blood magic and cannibalism around him.

>>40889647
I worded that in a very retarded way and I’d like to apologize to everyone.
>what I meant to say
Your telling me a guy, a dude, a man, shows up claiming to be the son of the god you worship and he even comes with supernatural abilities and your response(well your leaders response) was to hand him over to the very people who wanted him dead?
>makes absolutely zero sense, men have. A history of backing up men
So the romans, Egyptians and wvwn the greeks traveled the world and recorded shit down meticulously, and theres zero mention of jesus or yeshua(pronounced similarly to joshua) or moses?
Let’s pretend yeshua was real, it make sense if a woman appears and shes claiming to be the daughter of divinity and she has gifts and using them to help and guide people, well now she has a following and this challenges your narrative about women, so what do you do?
>kill her and horribly torture her on a stick just to make an example to others and followers.

>>40889795
John 4
22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews
Matthew 5;17
Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil

>>40889795

John 8:45 does not explicitly say Jews are the children of Satan. As someone trying to convince them he's their Messiah foretold of im their Jewish prophecies, that they're not real children of Abraham (or not real Jews) for not believing him. He's a Jew keveching to fellowJews that they're not Jewing the right way by not following him. That's what the passage is saying I'm it's actual context. The meme puts quotes in, but that's not what it says.

So he whipped the Jews because he was into S/m?

>>40889877
>So he whipped the Jews because he was into S/m?

He whipped the .money changers because Jews co.itting usury against fellow Jews is a big no-,no according to the laws of Moses. Usury against gentiles, as well as enslavement is ok though, according to the OT.

>>40889913
LOL

>>40889923
What?

>>40885407 (OP)

>>40889877
... mostly masochism. note the "turn the other cheek" teaching was not even consistently followed by Jesus himself

>>40890728
oh

>>40885407 (OP)
Christianity was the I AM doctrine veiled for the piscean age, a judeo-masonic concoction, specifically Jupiter and the Sun in Pisces. Islam was Venus in Pisces. For the aquarian age the I AM doctrine will be veiled under the guise of AI and other technological creations.

Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E

>>40892927
oh ok

>>40894216
I don’t get it

>>40885407 (OP)
>Yu Mo Gui Gwai Fai Di Zao
Yu Mo Gui Gwai Fai Di Zao
>Yu Mo Gui Gwai Fai Di Zao
Yu Mo Gui Gwai Fai Di Zao

>>40895946
What does that mean?

>>40885407 (OP)
When was the last time you used a flashlight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8wkQQ9qxsg

well what aspect of jesus, and what denominations ideas of him? is he the son of god? yes we all are. is "salvation" only through him? helllll no. ive conquered the darkness i dont need salvation. is hell real? yep you live there we call it earth. yes you will go there when you die, there is no escape ie reincarnated. is there a heaven? yeah its called drugs or ignorance/stupidity. but seriously heaven is conquering the darkness so it doesnt affect you. i live in heaven cause i did. imagine nobody can threaten you with it, but you can bring it out on them and decimate them everytime. thus what do i worry about? nothing. come get some. thats heaven.