Thread 40886448

>>40844748
>Original thread
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40844748/

>What we know
Courtney helped have him killed. She, Grohl, the record company, (and more?) all benefited from his death.

When Kurt OD'ed in Rome she was the one who told the world it was suicide; he never admitted to that, nor ever wanting to take his life. The "suicide letter" is sus af because it doesn't actually say he's killing himself, and there are parts later added/fabricated clearly by Courtney --- who also was hiding another letter the entire time.

Even her own attorneys dropped her eventually and teamed up with a PI because they felt something was foul.

Picrel is the alleged shotgun he used... how in the fuck could anyone shoot themselves in the head with this thing?? Did he use his fucking toe? Couldn't have because his death pic shows him in shoes.

Lastly, look into what the bitch did to the ex-husband/bf of daughter.. Francis had gifted one of Kurt's guitars to him when they were together, then Courtney wanted it back after they split.... She was going to have the kid killed and his friend basically saved his ass by randomly checking up on him (and calling the cops).

The kidnappers literally told him "we're going to take turns fucking you then kill you"

https://www.spin.com/2018/06/5-things-frances-bean-cobain-exhusband-lawsuit-isaiah-silva/

>>40886448 (OP)
El Duce said satanic rocker Allen Wrench did it
Drug dealer and nazi occult fan Dylan Carlson brought Allen to the house and gave Kurt the heroin that knocked him out
El Duce died days after snitching by losing his head being ran over by a train

>>40886597
That could all have been a ploy/pasty setup in itself though.. Pay Duce-bag to say all that shit then kill him afterwards to cover-up the true culprits. I imagine this was a "group" effort.

Courtney was known for threatening people for decades, and as we have seen with the ex-son-in-law incident, she has the connections...

>>40886610
He said Courtney paid Allen he he introduced them
You haven’t seen the junkie punk rocker Joe interviews? He lays it all out because he was there the day Kurt was shot. Said the gunshot wasnt even that loud for a shotgun which makes sense with the gun pictured looking like a muzzle
Of course Courtney had him whacked but she didn’t pull the trigger and tom grant the PI recognizes that but he thinks Cali Dewitt shot Kurt but Cali is a coward who tried to clear the house of all Kurt’s druggy frens
Including McCauley culkin’s sister Jennifer Adamson
Also Courtney had her bandmate Eric erlandson kill hole’s exbassist Kristen pfaff and rip pages from the time of Kurt’s death out of her diary
Come on man do some research or improve your reading comprehension

>>40886610
>Courtney was known for threatening people for decades, and as we have seen with the ex-son-in-law incident, she has the connections...
Where did she get those connections? It doesn't appear that her parents were glowniggers or anything.

>>40886647
Her dad was a glowie who pimped his underage daughter to rockstars
Mk ultra handler who was the Grateful Dead’s first manager and early haight ashbury drug dealer

>>40886647
...look into who her dad was... "Grateful Dead Road Manager" aka another MKU asset..

He literally doused her with LSD when she was a baby too, kinda the only thing I feel about for her..

This was interesting though:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2617948/Courtney-Loves-father-claims-prove-SHE-responsible-Kurt-Cobains-death.html

They clearly had a falling out..

CAPTCHA: MARAY

>>40886640
I've seen the fucking video, read the book, listened to the PI, everything... I know that fucking story, so do countless others... that's why I don't believe for certain it's the complete truth.

>>40886776
You don’t believe Courtney paid to have Kurt killed and then had the guy who snitched on her killed?
Of course it’s incomplete you can’t tell the whole story in 2,000 characters
I posted first fucking thread because I knew this shit years ago you fucking retarded faggot

>>40886647
hahahahahaahhaaa you gotta be fucking kidding me.

>>40886448 (OP)
I had the PI's book and cassette tape back in the day. I don't know where it went.

Reposting for anyone who hasn't seen it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THTod7AM4sU

>>40886647
>Where did she get those connections?
The correct question to be asking. Most people cant wrap their head around how the world actually works. Yes, Courtney Love had the Seattle Police force terrified of her and they let her walk for murder. Didn't even investigate it. Yes, she tried to kidnap and murder her daughter's ex husband for stealing a guitar and the LAPD let her walk. She's literally one of the most powerful "people" in the the U.S. ... and she is pretty much just a walled junkie that was never attractive to begin with. The cognitive dissonance in most humans wont allow them to even conceive of the reasons as to why this is. But the truth is literally staring you in the face, your mind is just blind to it.

>>40886640
Pages detailing the "murder" of Kurt Cobain.

Did the estate use its own funds for Montage of Heck?

no one cares about some troon glowie approved "rocker" killing himself

the best part about it is he is dead

>>40887744
well, who do you listen to and like? just curious about dudes like you that slam bands like nirvana

anyway, wanted to post this from the last thread, it's kind of like the reason why 2-3 gens ahead, kids & teens found themselves still relating to nirvana. here's my personal take of someone who was alive when kurt was alive

to me, with kurt, there are a lot of mystique-like parallels with jim morrison. they both wrote vague, yet very poetic lyrics, but i never sensed that kurt was trying to be anything like jim, unlike that cringelord Bono from U2 who actually wanted to play jim in the Oliver Stone movie, LMAO could you picture that? the band would create this signature, pop-punk, groovy, punchy sound and kurt would just layer something out of this world on top of it, just like how the Doors fusion with Jim. there are vocalists that make me cringe whenever someone covers them. it's rare, but to me, anybody who tries to sing an Ozzy or Ozzy with Sabbath song, a Doors, or Nirvana song, it just doesn't do it justice no matter who does it. as far as Nirvana, the only closest exception was when kim gordon did "Aneurysm" because she was going through her split with thurston moore at the time, so it sounded so unnaturally good, sincere and cathartic all at the time

i get it, to a trained ear, it's not that Ozzy, Kurt or Morrison couldn't sing. it's obvious they never took singing lessons, but they could really draw you in, kind of like how Lou Reed, who obviously only sang when he felt like it lol could. it's a rare fucking thing, like Elvis always sang other people's lyrics, but if you didn't know that and someone told you, you'd swear up and down that wasn't true

also, add to the fact that cobain joined the 27 club just like morrison and that they both shared that cool, laid back, quirky, aloof personality that felt genuine, not forced

for me personally, the two bands that really affected me in my teens on a relatable level were The Doors and Nirvana

According to some Hollywood/Music industry insider Kobain was sacrificed by RHCP so that their album Blood Sex Magic can be a success. The 1h recording of him talking to some government law enforcement? worker on the phone dropped a few years ago where he talked about a bunch of stuff.

>>40888209
https://vocaroo.com/19Eb0eQWrmoR

>>40888138
he was a pretentious whiny spoiled faggot who spent his entire life in the safest, most economically prosperous period of American history as a multi millionaire rockstar with hundreds of millions of fans and spent ALL of it complaining about and demonizing all of the people and institutions that made that possible. I wish Courtney shot his balls off with a shotgun before turning it on his worthless skull

>>40888209
god, that album art is so hideous

>>40888245
ok, i get it, you just don't get it. how dare you despise and not kiss up to an industry that is only interested in you for the money you're making them when they're making so much more off you, not that that even mattered. if it did, like john lydon used to bitch about money all the time, i'd agree with you, but that just wasn't the case with kurt

>>40888321
they were rapey af and kiedes literally admits he's a pedo. that's why Universal Pictures, to this day, won't make a RHCP movie based on kiedes's book because of the pedo backlash they know is coming

plus i'm so glad that my shoegazefu miki berenyi said she rejected kiedes's creepy advances when Lush toured with them during lollapalooza during the 90s, unlike hope sandoval from mazzy star with whom anthony just pumped and dumped. god, what a sleazy asshole

>>40888245
Are you people just idiots or something?

>>40887161
>Yes, Courtney Love had the Seattle Police force terrified of her and they let her walk for murder.
What is it that makes her so protected? She's otherwise a loose cannon but she sure knows how to keep a secret. It would appear she's 'in on' something even deeper and long before than Kurt's death.

>>40888209
"Water, Flour, Foreplay, Retardation" by the Lukewarm Bell Peppers was almost 3 years before Cobain's murder.

>>40889056
I knew a girl in high school in the 90s when that overrated album came out self-tattoed the 8 pointed band logo on her wrist which pedo kiedes called an "Angel's Asshole" (lol hurrrdurr so artistic yet funneh) and regretted it a year later when she felt they sold out by doing a song for the Coneheads soundtrack lol

>>40888245
Based

>>40888245
Man, don't blame Kurt. It's not his fault he lived in the last, great decade of American history lol. Sorry you're stuck at mom's until she dies because zoomers don't date anymore and stuff

>>40888245
Nirvana smiley T's at Walmart for only $8.98.

>>40889880
Yet the band won't allow chain stores to play their music. Very Jungian of them

If you read Kurt's journal, you'll see a page of him describing how and why he wanted to basically destroy the pop music industry at the time. He literally wrote "the only way to destroy the system is to infiltrate it from within"... unfortunately however, he became his greatest enemy, as many eventually do...

>>40888209
I always hated them, so I'm sure they also "reaped the benefits" of his death...

>>40886448 (OP)
I'm sorry for being retarded, but what does "PI" stand for?

>>40890913
Private Investigator.
You know, like a Private detective

>>40890968
Ohh, okay
Thank you

>>40889557
That girl Michelle Burke was beautiful. Looked great in Dazed and Confused (and had her boobies fondled on camera).

>>40888138
>jim morrison
His father was Admiral George Stephen Morrison, who lead the Navy Battle Group at the Gulf of Tonkin incident (literal false flag that was the pretense for U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War). He was also at Pearl Harbor for the attack and he was a nuclear weapons instructor. Should tell you something about where these "artists" come from and how long these programs have been going on. The counterculture movement was a psyop that had military and government involvement. None of it is/was organic.

>>40888245
Accurate take. Cobain/Nirvana spearheaded the "success sucks" psyop that spurned Gen X to embrace an ideology that enabled the dismantling of Western Culture. Everything these cunts stood for is degenerate. It was social programming using music and popular culture. The present state of affairs in the U.S. and Europe was planned and has been in the works for a while.

>>40888956
>What is it that makes her so protected?
Courtney Love literally told you in her song lyrics for Celebrity Skin
>I'm all I wanna be
>A walking study
>In demonology
At the top of the pyramid are people that are no longer people. They are hosts to demons that have existed for millennia. Look at the mental health treatments and facilities that preceded the actual program MK Ultra. From about 1920-1960 you had things like hydro-shock therapy, electro-shock therapy, and insulin-shock therapy. All of these therapies literally killed people and then revived them. Why would you do this? To remove the soul and allow something else to take control. While you are heading toward the light, something else is heading toward your body. Courtney Love is something very old and very evil wearing celebrity skin. And the people who run major cities know enough about the practice of magick and demonology to know what Courtney is and avoid her.

i honestly think he just killed himself. went back to luciferian heaven aka nirvana and got reincarnated or perhaps is still just chilling there until he gets shoved down the drainpipe back here to hell again. nearly all his songs are about it.
>in the sun, in the sun, in the sun i feel as one
>throw down your umbilical noose and i will climb right back
the fucking album is literally called "in utero" and has a fallen angels womb on the cover

>>40891331
>i honestly think he just killed himself.
As luck would have it, Courtney's bassist died two months after Kurt. Kristen Pfaff. She was also 27. Her mom had this to say.
>In the book Love & Death, released April 2004, Kristen Pfaff's mother, Janet Pfaff, states she has never accepted the official story regarding her daughter's death.
At some point, the "coincidences" become too hard to ignore. At some point, even normie brains inclined to cognitive dissonance have to accept this shit is just too weird to believe the official narrative.

maybe the shotgun did it by itself, seems possible that with final destination and everything.

>>40886597
>On April 19, 1997, one day after his final performance and talking to Brent Alden, and eight days after filming his interview with Nick Broomfield for the Kurt & Courtney documentary, Hoke was found dead on the railroad tracks in Riverside, California
Hmmm

>>40886640
>Courtney had her bandmate Eric erlandson kill hole’s exbassist Kristen pfaff and rip pages from the time of Kurt’s death out of her diary
How come? Blood sacrifice? Didn't want to make a Faustina bargain?

>>40888209
I thought the death of Rivers Phoenix was a sacrifice for Flea/RHCP.

>>40888209
No, I believe RHCP were behind the death of River Phoenix. Johnny Depp knew about the sacrifice beforehand or probably had a hand in it.

Kurt was a blood sacrifice. I believe El Duce.. and Courtney was behind it all. She's very demonic. I'm sure Kurt was but he seemed to want out by the end.

>>40886448 (OP)
She killed him and got away with it. Liked nirvana as a kid I think they're faggy now. Always hated Dave grool.
It is possible to pinky the trigger on that shotgun . Brandon Herrera did a vid recently on the topic

>>40891044
>Michelle Burke
she was definitely a qt, but i was more of a jane march guy myself until she played a trans dude or some shit in the crappy bruce willis movie, turned me off. L'Amant (1992) was a great film. No fucking way in HELL it could be made today lol

>>40891251
meh. if that was the case, they wouldn't have kicked him off of Woodstock. plus he never had a strong relationship with his dad, probably his sister more than anything. he wasn't into that whole hippie acid rock shit either like hendrix, but more like jopin. just liked getting shitfaced, screaming the blues and crooning. morrison was actually a big Sinatra fan but frankie couldn't stand his paddy ass lol

>>40891899
Read about Laurel Canyon/Lookout Mountain AFB sometime. And Morrison attended high school with Cass Elliott (aka the Queen of Laurel Canyon) which was the same high school as John Phillips (Marine Corp officer dad) in Alexandria, VA (where Dave Grohl is from, incidentally). So basically, every major player in the counterculture movement was hanging out next to a military base in L.A. which was also where the Manson murders went down (Sharon Tate's Dad was also an AF Colonel with connections to military intelligence). The truth is staring you in the face.

>>40888209
they killed hilel slovak for their fame

>>40891263
Or they were punk and conveniently "used" by the fedbois and their satanist antics to do the stupid shit.

>>40891386
The shotgun loaded itself with underpacked rounds and possessed someone to pick it up?

>>40892453
>>40891263
I wonder what would happen if you told them the "success sucks" message would be used to enable fascism in the future

>>40892485
>conveniently used by the fedbois
They're control freaks.

>>40886448 (OP)

What's the Epstain connection?

Pretty clear something other than the (((Official))) version happened?

>>40892499
You'd get a song that's the grunge equivalent of "Nazi Punks Fuck Off", where they reframe anti-success and anti-wealth views as right-wing

>>40892513
Which just goes back to what I said.
Doesn't matter who, but these fedboi trash would latch onto whatever the biggest one was.
And the idiots would hate them for it.

>>40892506
Epstain was connected to -
David Geffen, and his access to celebrities like Michael Jackson, who was a close associate, which granted him access to the inner circles of the entertainment industry.

>>40892516
Read Tom O'Neill's book on the Manson Family. It's beyond a bunch of fedbois influencing an organic message. The Manson family was embedded within the LA music scene and Tate/Polanski were heavily involved with Cass Elliott and Jay Sebring (an associate of Johnny Roselli aka one of the FBI mafia guys in the JFK assassination). And these guys were connected to dudes like General Curtis Lemay and some high level military figures in the 60's. The whole music scene in the 1960's was very much connected to military figures, likely Satanists (Tate, Polanski. And Rosemary LaBuanca) and MK Ultra researchers (Jolly West). To me, Cobain and Grunge were just reboots of what was done in 1960's toward the goal of spreading degeneracy. A weird nexus of Satanism, the military, and the entertainment industry still exists today and it has been disseminating an intentional message through music and culture.

>>40892615
Something like that.
That Hank dude is connected to the 60s and 70s scene.

>>40892615
>Cobain and Grunge were just reboots of what was done in 1960's toward the goal of spreading degeneracy.

Allow me to introduce you to 1980's pop culture...

yea wild

>>40892771
>Allow me to introduce you to 1980's pop culture...
Nah. It was pretty much the opposite. "Just Say No to Drugs" was mainstream and you had shows like 'Family Ties' that openly mocked the hippes. And you had stuff like 'The Big Chill' that tried to get hippies to abandon their counterculture ideals. Madonna was still bubble gum pop. Early versions of Michael Jackson were really tame. Same with Prince or Cindy Lauper. Even bands like Motley Crue tamed their acts from early 80's 'Shout at the Devil' to 'Girls, Girls, Girls' due to the Satanic Panic. And rock was dominated by acts like Journey and Huey Lewis and the News. Fashion was Lacoste. Success was cool. Donald Trump was young, cool, wasn't controversial, and was a mainstream icon. Grunge changed all of this. The 80's zeitgeist was nothing like the "turn on, tune in, drop out" bullshit Boomers grew up with.

courtney love and kurt cobain murder theory is an attempt to hijack sid and nancy for the 90s. they were famewhores

kurt cobain is still alive and goes by 'Slade Smiley' (=slayed smiley, a reference to the logo)

he's some sort of queer reality tv show guy which would only seem unbelievable if you bought the half of what goes on in popular celebrity culture as being authentic

captcha: G44AY

also not unrealistic to think they were reverse gendered. f boi attire

>>40886448 (OP)
>how in the fuck could anyone shoot themselves in the head with this thing??
Are you fucking retarded?

>>40895870
Anon, there is a lot of shit I'll believe. Not this one. Different eyes. Different teeth. Different soul.

>>40895887
Cobain was generally believed to be about 5'9" but was probably more around 5'6". He was a manlet. He probably didnt have the height or reach to put the gun in his mouth and pull the trigger. He could have done it with his feet, but the gun was found in his hand. Then there is the subject of rounds. He was using target shot which has less propellant and lighter projectiles in the shells when compared to say, buckshot. That close? I personally think target rounds would have killed him, but it's a legit debate. So, between the rounds and the size of the shotgun, it does seem improbable that Kurt died in this manner.

>be the shotgun
>kill curt cobain the famous grunge music singer
>do it backwards 360 no scope with a 9mm bullet
>people catching on to my conspiracy so I shoot dick cheney's friend to create a distraction

>>40892619
Yeah, Hank Harrison is definitely in this stuff. You dont hang out in Haight Ashbury managing the Grateful Deal and have a psychologist wife and not be neck deep in MK Ultra.

>>40895875
>also not unrealistic to think they were reverse gendered
Lots of evidence for it and it explains a lot of things. The voice is the problem with this one. He never sounded like a chick.

>>40896290
he literally killed himself with a Red Ryder BB Gun because Santa isn't real and the Little Orphan Annie Decoder pin was just a crummy commercial

>>40886772
this is the key...Bob Weir was the inside man on killing roosters....he saw as competition, needed to keep making "sacrifices" , raised and sold them off to uncle sam and the yews
his ass is fried now
13 points in the mutha fuckin neck
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q7pEIS4cpjc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G5P4kEBh5-I

https://archive.org/stream/weirdscenesinsidethecanyonlaurelcanyoncovertopsthedarkheartofthehippiedream2014b/Weird%20Scenes%20Inside%20the%20Canyon%20-%20Laurel%20Canyon%2C%20Covert%20Ops%20%26%20the%20Dark%20Heart%20of%20the%20Hippie%20Dream%20%282014%29%20by%20David%20McGowan%20%26%20Nick%20Bryant_djvu.txt

https://archive.org/details/laurel-canyon-the-inside-story-of-rock-and-rolls-legendary-neighborhood

>>40886448 (OP)
>spoke to 3rd parties about divorcing Courtney
>Courtney's known - then recent - interest in 'calligraphy'
>Old Hollywood pedigree of Courtney's

>>40896601
he always wanted to be a dancin skeleton

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/3esYOyjkJhE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rtfCScC8k2s

poor cocksucker is almost tapped out

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vjGXHAbGS1w

>>40896617
100% it was a murder they viewed as collective sacrifice....they were all in on it like John Lennon and collected and consumed his blood also

>>40887744
friko braun? that you sweetcheeks?

>>40891899
From the book about Laurel Canyon another anon posted.

>>40892615
>Johnny Depp
>>40891455
>Charles Manson, Polanski, West

-Johnny Depp has matching occult tattoos with pals Damian Echols and Marilyn Manson.
-Johnny Depp was friends with accused snuff film maker Hunter "I like to kill" Thompson
-Johnny Depp is a defender of accused child rapist Roman Polanski and starred in one of his occult movies
-Marianne Barnard is one of the women who claims Polanski raped her
-Marianne Barnard also claims MK Ultra Dr. Louis Jolyon West tortured her.

https://www.baka.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/johnny-depp-defends-polanski-20100201-n7ce.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/roman-polanski-sexual-assault-allegation-california-artist-marianne-bernard-a8013551.html

>>40891455 #
>Johnny Depp
>>40892615 #
>Charles Manson, Polanski, West

-Johnny Depp has matching occult tattoos with pals Damian Echols and Marilyn Manson.
-Johnny Depp was friends with accused snuff film maker Hunter "I like to kill" Thompson
-Johnny Depp is a defender of accused child rapist Roman Polanski and starred in one of his occult movies
-Marianne Barnard is one of the women who claims Polanski raped her
-Marianne Barnard also claims MK Ultra Dr. Louis Jolyon West tortured her.

https://www.baka.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/johnny-depp-defends-polanski-20100201-n7ce.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/roman-polanski-sexual-assault-allegation-california-artist-marianne-bernard-a8013551.html

>>40898962
>Marianne Barnard also claims MK Ultra Dr. Louis Jolyon West tortured her
This absolutely would make sense. If you do a deep dive into the JFK assassination, a lot of the same people involved in the conspiracy to kill the President were also heavily involved with people who lived at or frequented the Tate/Polanski mansion. Jolly West interviewed Jack Ruby before he declared him unfit to stand trial. West also ran the clinic in San Francisco where Manson received daily treatments while living there.

>>40900124
>Tate/Polanski/Ruby/Rubenstein

Hmmm...

>>40886448 (OP)
Imagine the wife reading the fucking letter live on tv to a massive crowd.
The psyops were wild in the 90's man.
Kurt must have saw or heard something, he was godlike status at the time.

>>40896581
sonufabitch

>>40888209
Why do they suck, though?

>>40886448 (OP)
Could just be Geffen and those industry dudes (Goldberg and all them) trying to get Courtney and others to off Kurt because they'd be the ones who'd lose the most money.

>cigarette buds left by Dylan and Cali (or others) smoking cigarettes and the rest of the heroin that was used to try and give Kurt an OD
"Don't want to let it go to waste"

>>40901252
butts*
Whatever

>>40901257
Everyone likes butts.

>>40901271
no kiddin, buck
*sniffs sister's ass*

>>40896627
You don't get "talent" that way.

Who was Courtney with in that car before and after slashing Kurts tires and Kurt?

Why did she cut and stab his thigh and then try to cut his pp and say something stupid like "this is mine?"

>>40895537
>"Just Say No to Drugs" was mainstream

Because it was a reaction to the drug epidemic. Other than your mention of Motley Crue, you're cherry picking from to paint a black or white picture of some fantasy tame 80s world that didn't exist. Madonna was on her knees grinding around while wearing a lingerie top and singing Like A Virgin. People weren't just watching Family Ties, but also Miami Vice, Scarface, Nightmare on Elm Street, etc. Journey and Huey "I Want a New Drug" Lewis's popularity went down while edgier Guns N Roses and Metallica rose. Much of the rise of 80s rap, alternative and heavy metal had to do with counterculture anger and partying. Watch "Heavy Metal Parking Lot" for an 80s version of youth trying to escape from reality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBryTebK2Og&pp

>>40902377
forgot pic

>>40902377
>Because it was a reaction to the drug epidemic.
Correct. The epidemic started in the 1960's by the counterculture movement.
>Madonna was on her knees grinding around while wearing a lingerie top and singing Like A Virgin.
Rewatch the video. She's fully clothed and wearing a wedding dress. You may be thinking of Material Girl, but that makes my point and she's still pretty clothed and reinforcing the idea that success is good.
>Miami Vice, Scarface
Painted drug culture in a negative light.
>Journey and Huey "I Want a New Drug" Lewis's popularity went down while edgier Guns N Roses and Metallica rose.
Toward the end of the decade sure. Metallica's breakthrough was Justice and the video 'One' and that was 1988. GNR was late 1987.
>Much of the rise of 80s rap, alternative and heavy metal had to do with counterculture anger and partying.
Not really. Old school Public Enemy was great. It was mostly positive. Gangsta Rap wouldnt be big until the 90's. Beastie Boys were about partying, but they were overall pretty chill and didnt associate with drugs. Run DMC was doing crossovers with Aerosmith.
>watch "Heavy Metal Parking Lot" for an 80s version of youth trying to escape from reality
Judas Priest was never mainstream. Neither was metal really until Metallica broke through with One.

>>40902380
Doesnt show usage rates from the 60's and 70's. And this data basically proves my point. Drug use was down by 1990. And the chart doesnt show crack or weed, which has now been legalized thanks to the grunge, neo-counterculture movement.

>>40901225
>because they'd be the ones who'd lose the most money
This part I dont get. Why would the music industry lose money one way or another? Kurt making more songs would seem a better scenario?

>>40886448 (OP)
>he never admitted to that
Mental how he never admitted to killing himself

>>40902958
Back to the control thing, that and they're stupid.

>>40902970
Thats because Rome was attempted murder #1.

>>40902958
It's almost like such figures operate at a magical capacity above what normie society perceives. Ever consider that money doesn't matter to those who have free access to it? That greed is what ordinary men experience with money, and that those with a lot of it put on a good show.
It was never about dudes having more than you and trying to get more. Their having it has nothing to do with their pursuit of it. The explicit point is your lack of it, and protecting your lack of it that you can not amass it. The secondary point is literal mind control through cultural zeitgeist. When these people aren't useful, they have a way of dying. When they're too honest, they have a way of dying. Cobain was a loose cannon and a serious liability. He could have exposed some powerful people and so they handled him when it seemed like he might.

>>40896351
That's because they transitioned him early.

>>40902380
aren't they all really pain relievers tho?

>>40891813
>Jaw has three distinct angles
>played Trans character
Dude... just get it. Please man. Just get it.

>>40903953
There was no "transition" retard.

>>40904194
Nta, but I could believe Kurt was a tranny. He/she always wore loose clothing and was really small for a dude. Courtney also kinda looks like a man and is uncommonly tall. It's absolutely possible they gave them the Big Mike/Michelle Obama treatment.

>>40904932
>>40903953
You're both dumb idiots.

Anyone know any other cases of a wife blowing her husband's head off? It's almost always poisoning or some sneaky shit

>>40905057
Care to explain why this isn't possible? Courtney is taller and has bigger biceps than him.

>>40888245
he wasnt spoiled, he earned his success and fame and grew up poor in a rural town full of rednecks, he had sex with a retarded girl and got bullied for it, turned to drug use, etc. living in the 90s didnt automatically make your life good, especially the early 90s, there was a quiet despair among young people, even though i wasnt a part of that generation you can kind of understand where they were coming from being shoulder to shoulder living with boomers in their peak years.

>>40905381
That didn't happen, you stupid fuck.

>>40905440
which part, you absolute smoothbrain?

>>40905504
The whole top half, you utter fucking moron.

>>40905509
ok cool, get back into therapy nigger

>>40891632
could get any with a toe but the angle and distance become very limited as far as balistic evidence and cant have shoes on

>>40905524
Use your brain for once, dipshit mcfuckface.

Wait til they find out I didn't die
Bitchtits McGee over here needs an etiquette course.

>>40901655
who said it was about consuming talent?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EkEbpWZFpRo

>>40905554
>terminally mentally ill zoomer who cant form coherent thoughts or communicate

>>40903174
Bingo

>>40903978
she is part Thai, so those ladyboy genes probably got her interested in that role

>>40905588
You don't understand basic grammar?
Not a zoomer.

When is someone going to mention the connection to the 23 enigma?

>Kurt was born in 1967 and died in 1994
>1+9+6+7 = 23
>1+9+9+4 = 23
>Meets William S Burroughs
>The man who popularized the 23 enigma

>>40886640
On the topic of Hole's bassist; and Courtney's lover after Kurt (Kristen Pfaff), her dates are super sus af too.. She basically was born and died in the same years as Kurt (1967-1994), so same age (27) as well.

BTW Kurt and Courtney got married on February 24... (27)

They even mention Kurt's birth/death dates in that piece of shit film with Jim Carrey; another 23 magician.

The piece of shit movie came out on February 23, 2007 and if we strip away the zeroes from 2007, we're left with 27..

>>40905735
nice, that's even worse. either make a schizoid counter argument to my post after 5 replies or pay a homeless person to break a thick bottle of whiskey on your mouth and kick the shards into your face as you slip into a coma

More 23 fuckery

>Chester Bennington
>March 20, 1976 - July 20, 2017
>March 20 — 3+20=23
>1976 — 1+9+7+6=23

>Kurt Cobain
>February 20, 1967 - April 5, 1994
>1967 = 23 — 1994 = 23

>Michal Hutchence
>22 January 1960 - 22 November 1997
>22 January — 1+22=23

>Chris Cornell
>July 20, 1964 - May 18, 2017
>May 18 - 5+18=23

>Chris Benoit
>May 21, 1967 - June 24, 2007
>1967=23 - Might have died on June 23

>Jonathan Brandis
>April 13, 1976 – November 12, 2003
>1976 = 23 — 11+12 = 23
>2003 can also be looked at as 23

>Heath Ledger - passing Jan 22 (1+22)

>Layne Staley & Scott Weiland - born in 1967

>Bruce Lee - passed at 32 > 23

>Corey Haim - born December 23, 1971

>River Phoenix - August 23, 1970 passed at 23 years old

>Selena passed away at 23 years old

>Ian Curtis (Joy Division) is a double-whammy, as he passed away on May 18th (like Cornell) and was 23 years old.

>What's even more bizarre however, is how Jim and Chris Cornell were both guests on the same SNL episode, which aired May 18, 1996...
>Cornell died on May 18th and May 18th once again equals 23 (05+18).. If you account the episode (20) and season (21), you once again come to 23

>9/11... 09+11+2+1 = 23

>>40898962
Yep, Johnny Depp along with Flea killed River Phoenix. RHCP went superstar status the following year. Johnny Depp is also affiliated with the West Memphis 3 as many celebrities are. Even the South Park guys rallied for their release in the late 90s, they're all sick fucks.

>>40905792
>>Chris Benoit
What do Insane Clown Posse know? Even Donald Marshall said they played a part in Benoit's death.
https://youtu.be/Lv_P-E-fplk?si=GFnvsn5doi-dVM6w
22:26 in their song Chris Benoit backmasked they admitted he was an Illuminati sacrifice

>>40905792
>>Michal Hutchence
Bob Geldof sacrificed him.

>>40905792
>Ian Curtis
Sacrificed by his bandmates/New Order members. Their band name is even occultic.

>>40905766
That's ironic, actually.
But you seriously need to be nicer. :(

>>40905805
The dudes in RHCP are kinda s t upside, though.
Half are jews too.

>>40905867
Stupid*

he was also known for circumsizing his son, ryan white.

>>40892066
Just because these kids were born in Hell’s Kitchen doesn’t mean they agree with the devilish ways of their parents

>>40905891
They use trauma-based mind control which creates alter-egos/split personalities in their victims.

>>40905853
>IYKYK

The Society of jesus is involved in a lot of these murders especially celebs with religious backgrounds, such as chris cornell, synead O'connor, the girl from the Cranberries

>>40905964
>same gangs, different names

>>40905138
kurt was always a submissive. dated alpha-proto-feminist bikini kill singer kathleen hannah, forerunner of the grrrl riot era. he never wanted to be a singer, but in the original lineup of nirvana, they were all submissives, so kurt had to take charge grudgingly, take the mic then fire the drummer. when they asked Grohl to join, Grohl became the alpha male of the band and was the best thing for Nirvana, even encouraged kurt to come out of his shell and take the lead in interviews, however kurt wasn't having as much fun in the MTV spotlight as Grohl, because as Kris said, "Kurt was one cynical bastard!". Kurt didn't really want to date Courtney at first, but her persistence paid off a year later after he met Grohl.

Courtney was no Alpha female, she was a very submissive groupie posing as lead singer and was very good at it. Twiggy Ramirez, Trent Reznor, Billy Corgan, who didn't she bang back in the 90s after Cobain an heroed lol

with Kurt & Courtney, you had 2 co-dependent submissives, much like Sid & Nancy. Grohl played the role of John Lydon and tried to pull Kurt out of that drug-addled relationship, but he began to despise Grohl because he felt Grohl just needed him to remain relevant, but Kurt was just a drug addict in denial sinking further into heroin, apathy and depression while Courtney was getting over it, started banging Billy Corgan behind his back while he was on the nod at home while their maid watched after Frances

It was challenging af to get Kurt back on his feet with In Utero, but when he was promised total artistic freedom and got it, he relished it, but still despised the forced marketing of it, retarded backlash against Rape Me, so on, and said fuck this gay earth

>>40906228
This is the most retarded fanfic I've ever read.
Azzerrad is that you?

>>40906244
Same.. I didn't think people like this existed anymore.

>>40906254
Complete and utter retards have always existed.

>>40906244
>fanfic
copypaste my "fanfic" into any Chat Ai and prove yourself wrong

>>40906405
>can't think for themself
Explains everything.

>>40906228
>kurt was always a submissive. dated alpha-proto-feminist bikini kill singer kathleen hannah,
I fail to see why any of this precludes Kurt being a tranny. So he was reluctant to step into an alpha position, kinda sounds like a chick to me. And he wasnt happy with anything "he" had. That really, really sounds like a chick to me. Kurt's entire spiritual dynamic makes way more sense if he was really a chick pretending to be a dude. His entire discography just sounds like female bitching to me.

>>40906597
Are you paid to post this stupid shit?

>>40906656
Think about a song like "Rape Me." Does it make more sense from a male or a female perspective? Or 'Smells Like Teen Spirit" .... literally about women's deodorant. Or 'In Utero' ... about pregnancy. Or 'Pennyroyal Tea' ...about a plant used for abortions. All of "his" songs are based on female imagery and allegory. Re-read all of Nirvana's lyrics and imagine they are being written by a woman. They make way more sense coming from a woman.

>>40906772
It's art. You interpret it completely uniquely from everyone else. Always remember that because that is something to cherish. Not to dwell on.

>>40906597
i don't think kurt was gay in a sexual way, but definitely in a mental way. that's why i totally latched onto Nirvana because i felt like i found a rare, kindred spirit in him. kurt hated sports and jock culture as i did. he wasn't into the traditional guy stuff like sports and cars. his dad pressured him to wrestle in school, but he hated that too. his escapes were painting, listening and practicing playing music. i think he latched to kris because kris was masculine in an active way and likely was the pulse that motivated them in the early days. then kurt latched on to grohl too because, not only because he was an alpha, badass drummer, his alpha demeanor, his ability to be socially active and naturally ingratiating, those two elements of kris and grohl made kurt feel safe and put him in a good, inspiring comfort zone to freely utilize his natural talents without restraint. both grohl and kris who were normies in comparison, knew cobain had that certain uniqueness and fully supported his artistic vision

>>40906772
Almost like a good chunk of the "disenfranchised" were women.
Who do you think Polly was made for?

>>40906838
Ironically, feminist authors would disagree with you. Starting with cunts like Virgina Woolf, legions of women authors have argued that their voice is distinctive and it needs its own outlet. And on this one point, I would agree with the useless, narcissistic bitches. Read a few male poets and then read female poets. It's different. Look at rock lyrics. There is a difference between Taylor Swift and Metallica. Kurt was way more like Taylor Swift. His lyrics were about his emotions and relationships. His albums were about breakups. His topics were female topics (rape, abortion, etc.). His lyrics were very similar to Sylvia Plath. A mixture of insanity, suicidal tendencies, and emotion. Hate to break it to you, but Kurt was a chick.

>>40906844
>that's why i totally latched onto Nirvana because i felt like i found a rare, kindred spirit in him
I fell for the same psyop, but unlike you, before I fell for it, I was popular and was a successful jock. I listened to Kurt's lyrics (among other things) and thought maybe there was something to an alternative perspective where I didn't have to act like a meat head. Boy was I wrong. What I ultimately found out was that faggots, theater kids, musicians, and junkies are way more hateful, exclusionary, and fucked up than Chad or Stacy could ever be. And they bully people that aren't part of their clique more than any Stacy could ever bully someone. I saw more fucked up misogyny from dudes that claimed to be feminists than I ever did from our high school's offensive line. It wasn't just Kurt Cobain. It was the entire zeitgeist. The attack on Western masculinity has been going on for a long time and it started here.

>>40907250
It's about the same, really.
Why so angry at Kurt?

>>40906844
>i don't think kurt was gay in a sexual way, but definitely in a mental way
Cobain French kissed Dave Grohl on SNL. And the only reason I would agree that he wasn't gay is because I think he was a chick. Dave Grohl was ok with it because he knew he was kissing a chick. If I'm wrong and Cobain had a penis, than he was at a minimum bisexual, if not a full-on faggot.

>>40907284
>Why so angry at Kurt
You have to have a better response than "why you so mad, bro?"

>>40907322
Were you one of the ones that were bullied in school by the newly minted nirvana shirt kids who thought they were better than you for some reason?

>>40907302
Have a source photo for that homogay, gay boi?

>>40907330
No, but scrawny faggots that couldn't get laid used to take cheap shots at me at concerts when I was dancing with chicks. Pissed me off when they'd hit me in the back of the head and then run away. My experience in high school was when I stopped taking liberals, feminists, and drug abusers seriously. The whole "alternative" movement was a way for people that didn't deserve attention to garner attention. Chad and Stacy arent much better and they have their faults, but they are better.

>>40907345
It was literally a Nirvana t-shirt released in rhe 90's. Google the writing on the t-shirt and it will come up. The front of the t-shirt was Dante's Circles of Hell.

>>40907400
"Chad and Stacy" led to societal decline, dear anon.

>>40907405
Sounds like mocking or sarcasm.
Do you not understand what "punk" means?

>>40907410
Society was imperfect but functional with Chad and Stacy in charge. I visited Portland and Seattle three years ago. Downtown Portland was a massive homeless camp replete with needles and feces everywhere and people were getting tear gassed at Voodoo donuts. I had to take an Uber to the Seattle airport because there was some kind of gang war going on outside the train station and the police wouldn't let us go outside "for our safety." The suburbs were ok, but that's basically where Pacific Northwest Chad and Stacy retreated to. Liberals can't be in charge of anything if you expect it to actually function.

>>40907444
Sounds like you fell for the basic bitch political divide psyop.
Homelessness is a societal failure.

>>40907415
>give me a source, its not real
>I guess it's real, but they didn't mean it, it was just punk
Cut it with the cope. I'm sorry that reality doesnt agree with the image you have in your head planted there by mass hypnosis. Cobain was either gay, bisexuality, or a tranny. But he wasn't some emotionally progressive numale heterosexual like you want him/her to be.

>>40907458
Are you a literalist autistic?
Should check yourself out.

>>40907455
>Sounds like you fell for the basic bitch political divide psyop.
Look faggot, tents with feces and used needles isnt a psychological op. It's a fucking real-world physical op. It isnt mind games any more. The mind games became reality. People passed out on sidewalks at 2pm in the afternoon isn't divide and conquer. Those people have been conquered and one side's ideology conquered them. It's clear which ideology is better. Chad and Stacy in the suburbs may be fucking intolerable to interact with, but they don't shit on their sidewalk and then pass out in their own shit and pitch a tent next to their pile of shit, piss, and used needles.

>>40907473
I feel like those junkie types were Chad and Stacys once.

>>40907485
Spoken like a true liberal. You feel something therefore you think that makes it reality. The most liberal cities with the most liberal governments are the biggest shitholes. And the biggest shitholes were ground zero for counterculture movements (San Francisco, LA, Portland, and Seattle). Don't believe me? Visit these places and see for yourself.

I don't like Nirvana or Grunge (more of a new wave/shoegaze/industrial fan) but I've come to regard people who make hating them a focal point with mild disdain. It's a very unique kind of angsty seethe that ironically enough Kurt would have related to

>>40907250
I've seen the same thing from the inside and out circa 2005-2008 onwards in both nerd/hipster/edm/goth/political spaces and you can call it bluepilled but I regret letting that kind of shit radicalize me into a /pol/ and /r9k/ fag wasting a decade of mental effort. Call me whatever you'd like but there's a myopia there a lot of us fell for which is why it's so fucking surreal seeing right wing fags do shit like quoting Terrance McKenna and new age spirituality shit. I'm unironically a Liberal again now but just wiser

Honestly these fucking threads man...it's always just some perma fried satanic panic christfag mkultra boomer spamming walls of text and quoting retards like John Wayne Todd as primary sources with shit that doesn't go anywhere beyond vague degrees of association

>>40907455
>speaks of psyops
>blames homelessness on society

You're either glowing or have to be another coomer on the blue/red-team retard spectrum...

>>40907552
>angsty seethe
>these fucking threads man...

Don't get mad because you've been neurologically castrated and can't compile the bigger picture.

Don't know if anyone's mentioned this, but Grohl and Diddy worked together before. I think the song was "It's All About the Benjamins" or something typically materialistic like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G10FqC2LsE

>>40905943
Isn't Jim Carrey to be rumored behind a lot of celebrity deaths? And isn't David Icke "really good friends" with him?

>>40905964
The Jesuits/Skull and Bones/CIA usually. And you are right, the deaths are usually coded using Gematria/numerology. The Gregorian calendar was even instituted by Pope Gregory XIII.

>>40907552
I agree and sympathize with you on being radicalized and breaking free from that hate/negative energy but I don't even know why you're on /x/. What are your beliefs, anon?

>>40908211
Yes and dunno.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Rocket

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE7sDsgw37w

>>40907210
I don't really care what other people's opinions on art are. What's true for one person might not be true for someone else when they internalize the beat and lyrics. You're free to react and feel however you wish. Don't let anyone try to take that away from you!

>>40886647
This is a troll

>>40907552
>I regret letting that kind of shit radicalize me into a /pol/ and /r9k/ fag wasting a decade of mental effort.
If you ever viewed this place as anything other than a way to troll globohomo you failed. 4chan isnt an identity. And God help you if you think it is.
>it's so fucking surreal seeing right wing fags do shit like quoting Terrance McKenna and new age spirituality shit.
This is what I mean about left-wing faggots being more exclusive and clique-ish than the right wing could ever be. How much of a faggot do you have to be to get mad when other people "encroach" on your stupid perceived alternative left-wing thought group. As if being familiar with a specific thought is actually an identity. Its a good thing when people are interested in something you are interested in. Its called success, and it doesnt suck.
>I'm unironically a Liberal again now but just wiser
The only thing "right wing" means anymore is that you question things. The left has becomes a cess pool of brainless idiots waiting for their next pat on the head from a glownigger.
>Honestly these fucking threads man...it's always just some perma fried satanic panic christfag mkultra boomer spamming walls of text and quoting retards like John Wayne Todd
The irony of you bitching about walls of text while posting a wall of text is not lost on me. And you were the faggot that mentioned John Wayne Todd.

>>40907210
You're replying to comments in bad faith. I never mentioned anything about Kurt Cobain being a man or woman. That's YOU. Miss me with your schizo attitude, act like you have some sense.

>>40890913
>pi
3.1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510 5820974944 5923078164 0628620899 8628034825 3421170679 8214808651 3282306647 0938446095 5058223172 5359408128 4811174502 8410270193 852110555...

>>40908211
>Jim Carey
Give us some more on Jim Carey. I've heard a bit but never seen the sauce.

>>40908316
>What's true for one person might not be true for someone else
Spoken like a true faggot that doesnt believe in objective truth. Truth isnt whatever the fuck you want to to be. Truth is just truth. Cobain, at a minimum, wrote like a chick and probably was a chick.

>>40908339
He's alleged to have killed his first wife, is part of the Epstein Island gang, and part of the moloch sacrifice gang even though he's not Jewish. He lost the majority of his money in two divorce settlements (Lauren Holly and Jenny McCarthy) in exchange for them signing NDAs that forbid them from talking about his sex life or how he's really like.

>>40908686
why dont you dig him up and blow his skeleton already? youre gayer and more whiny than he ever was, anon

>>40908831
>why dont you dig him up and blow his skeleton already?
I cant blow his corpse because it's a female corpse.

>>40905561
Oh wow, that does sound like something Kurt would say.

>Jim Carey

It's funny to watch everyone think he's "exposing" the Illuminati during those interviews and late-night talk show guest appearances when that's the complete opposite of what's going on.

He's in on it, he's part of the club, and he's making fun of those who know but can't speak out. It's all a taunt. The elite love to point the finger at themselves.

>>40886597
Duce was murdered and decapitated, the train was just a cover story

>>40909464
Bingo Bango

https://web.archive.org/web/20171101203100/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ERdpm050DI

Gotta love how the video was wiped... Keep hitting play until it works, even when it says "file won't play"

>>40908686
I hope you aren't doing this for free, because it would be really, really, really sad if you were. I would PREFER you to be a disinfo agent so I know that YOU are actually okay.

In any case

The internet has given backbones to wannabe edgelords via anonymity, you're the epitome of this. Try harder. Better yet, be better.

And get a fucking job.

>>40909272
the ladies would call him Squirt Cocaine after doing speedballs for weeks on end, they would overdose on the sheer amount of ejaculate. i dont think a female could match those stats

>>40908339
4plebs.org/x

search and ye shall find

>>40909370
Comas are lame.

>>40908831
Skeleton?

>>40910133
Ok, I'll bite on your shitty bait. What exactly is the end state of my disinformation campaign? What important organization in the world has a vested interested in besmirching the stellar reputation of Kurt Cobain? You got me. I'm a disinformation agent. Now let's see how much else you know.

>>40889056
Synonyms=hilarity
You're right but damn.

>>40891301
damn

>>40890913
private investigator

>>40908327
kek, you nailed him so hard he logged off I think

>>40905853
The band The Killers got their name from the fictional band in the music video for the New Order song "Crystal"

>>40908731
>Jenny McCarthy
no, he was never married to her, it was a different girl before Lauren Holly but not her

>>40886448 (OP)
what
a
load
of
fucking
bullshit
fuck
off
!

>>40907415
It means "faggot", cigarette. That Anon already made the argument that Nirvana was for faggots and not a bundle of sticks, punk.

>>40906844
Listen to Paw instead. More soup per can than alleged Shotgun Moutwash.

>>40907250
I think they got to a great chunk of Western men, sadly. And agreed, back in HS those fuckers would be the ones running -everything- gossip-wise, and man, they were some vindictive, evil assholes on their daily interactions with "mundanes" who clearly didn't want anything to do with them let alone mess em up and getting super-circumcized at the Principal's waiting with some faggot from some agenda-pushing racket like GLAAD. Basically 'practice jews' before dealing with the annoying real deal out there. It's almost like they want to project their entire submissive, matriarchal society on the Roman-descended assertive, patriarchal ones.

>>40905381
>I wasn't part of that generation
>BUT BACK IN THE 90'S, I WAS IN A VERY FAMOUS TV SHOOOOOOW--

Alr, lolz.

>>40887744
He's definitely not dead. It's a Kennedy classic faked death with endless bullshit theories and rabbitholes while they laugh and mock us.

>>40887744
is that Evan Dando?

>>40913419
U mad u gay

>>40905381
>sex with retarded girl
Written sauce svp

>>40914122
It's a story.
Means it's not true.
Retards watched montage of garbage and thought it was.

>>40891301
>Courtney Love is something very old and very evil wearing celebrity skin.
Damn, she's an unclean spirit occupying a damaged human vessel. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

>>40911072
No bait, just genuine concern. I'm reading that Laurel Canyon book now though. Maybe we can have a conversation about that instead of straw manning shit like I said anything about your precious cuck Kurt.

If you want people to listen to you learn how to communicate.

>>40914136
montage of heck definitely was damage control for soaked in bleach releasing the same year but i thought maybe there was some truth to it since nobody has refuted it. it's an unusually detailed lie

>>40913503
>alr
zoomzooms cant even type full words with their passive aggressive replies, feminized reject

>>40914301
>If you want people to listen to you learn how to communicate.
The sheer fucking irony of you typing this statement.

>>40914492
>soaked in bleach
Very solid documentary on the Cobain "suicide." Worth a watch for anyone interested in the topic.

>>40903884
>It's almost like such figures operate at a magical capacity above what normie society perceives. Ever consider that money doesn't matter to those who have free access to it?
Ok then. If it wasnt money, why kill Kurt?

>>40908208
>Grohl and Diddy worked together before
How is this shit even possible?

>>40906405
Letting an ai do all your brain work just proves you lack a brain bub

>>40886448 (OP)
https://youtu.be/VNdJXBSVNfQ

^^^ Same Story, Comedian Mitch Hedberg’s story mirrors Kurt Cobains story, and Trevor Moore
>long hair
They all have long hair, they all also have a soul about them, a spirit of something maybe a little MORE to them, like a spiritual bloodline or alien mind or something.
https://youtu.be/PDgP4hN4OA4
https://youtu.be/qJpMNy04ldU
https://youtu.be/vq6p4wX88Z0

Even some of their mannerisms are the same, Mitch Hedberg also slips into sounding like Roy Jay a few times for a few words, really weird man, like some sort of personality archetype.

>>40886448 (OP)
If that's truth then the feminist faggot deserved it, he was a hardcore feminist leftoid
Karma

>>40886448 (OP)

If you want to take it a little stage deeper, what if Kurt Cobain knew it, the entire time, that his failing relationship might end up costing him his life? & even went so far as to even write out paper trails of events that made it certain that people would fear his suicide. Only then for the suicide attempted success to be a staged deal with death to escape the Hollywood's tight grips using regular cosmetic prosthetics & bloodied cell packs made by himself fused together to make a complete corpse from at least the top of him down enough for a coroner to accept one in itself as his. Only with one person whom allegedly cared that he died personally knowing him enough to announce awkwardly they're OK with it although it was obvious she said she was leading him away from suicide even if she didn't really give a shit. Looking on the brightside he might'n't of been just a polly looking for a teen spirit with pennyroyal tea stained lithium in a heart shaped box begging to come as you are with the men who sold the world screaming rape me just to grow up in a lake of fire in a trip for something in the way of diving into Nirvana.

>>40917808
i didn't let ai do shit. that's how confident i am. if you zoom zooms think im fanfic'in and haven't lived being a hardcore nirvana fan while kurt was alive, knew a lot of funny tidbits about him, i invited you all to use chat ai to prove me wrong. that's all. if you think my earlier comment looks like it was written by ai, then you're truly retarded beyond comprehension

tidbit proof. i remember buying 2-song CD picrel for less than $3 brand new at a record store. it was released when nirvana was already big and they could've charged $10 or $5 even for that disc, but they weren't like that. plus the nirvana song "Oh, the Guilt" has the sound of a cigarette lighter in the intro that isn't in other future releases for some reason

>>40917751
The 90s and rap metal. That's how. I vaguely remember some kind of Kurt Cobain biopic on MTV or VH1, and Diddy was talking about Kurt Cobain and why he resonated with kids. Fucking ironic.

>>40917846
His next incarnation:

https://youtu.be/mkCjQEMclIg

Who is the long haired alien spirit that incarnates into these people, gains fame, and acts with the same mannerisms??

This is an alien.
https://youtube.com/shorts/9hOB6_tAP30

>>40918261
That sounds ridiculous and much like everyone else trying to tie their name to something else, that is unrelated.

>>40918270
No, it’s a demon writing itself into the timeline.

>>40918322
>>40918261
These shorts are.. weird, man, like, I feel like I remeber them from a while back, but this is the first day I’ve looked up this Keegan Karmychael guy, and Mitch Hedberg, who I now also remeber from old Comedy Central shows.
https://youtube.com/shorts/7RI2tg5Jn1o

-EVENT tagged-
Redskull
https://youtu.be/4T0kcjj1qgg

>>40907455
If you take the generalization of 21st century liberal politics and conservative politics, conservative politics can take us out of this societal tail spin better. It is what it is.

>>40907250
>What I ultimately found out was that faggots, theater kids, musicians, and junkies are way more hateful, exclusionary, and fucked up than Chad or Stacy could ever be
>It wasn't just Kurt Cobain. It was the entire zeitgeist. The attack on Western masculinity has been going on for a long time and it started here.
very insightful, thanks for writing this

>>40908327
I feel dabbed on and stunted on and I'm not even that anon, gg wp holy shit /x/ is deep waters do NOT fuck around

>>40907250
If you were really masculine brobro, some "feminine" psyop wouldn't really affect you.
:(

>>40919477
Modern psyops arose from psychology. Psychology arose from rhe study of hypnotism. A good rabbit hole is to dig into some of the scientific work into hypnotism conducted in the 19th century. Multiple doctors published research into painless, anesthetic-free surgery using just hypnotism .... among other interesting ways to influence behavior subconsciously. Basiclaly, think of hypnotism as a set of hacks (or backdoors) into your brain. Most techniques for inducing hypnosis rely on repeating phrases, flashing lights, using consistent background rhythms, or repeated visual cues. Basically, think of music videos as a sort of alagalmation of every existing hypnotic technique mashed up into a single technique. Pretty much any person can be hypnotized given enough time and effort, although some are more resistant than others. So temporarily falling for a psyop specifically designed to access the subconscious mind that was based on hundreds of years of research isnt something Im personally ashamed of. Most people never become aware of how they've been influenced.

>>40919755
Fair enough.

>>40917846
This is something I hadn't considered. Just based on personal research, touring a few closed mental hospitals, and researching NDEs, I came to the belief that people can be influenced, perhaps exclusively possessed by entities after the soul leaves the body. I'm pretty sure this is why they torture and rape children, because a child's consciousness hasn't fully formed and the soul hasn't been fully attached to a new body making it easier to transfer a consciousness. Bloodlines are basically this, a demon possessing a string of family members throughout generations. This is why its hard to figure out who is in control, because the entities in control are always changing skin. But I hadn't considered your notion, namely that mannerisms would remain the same in different hosts. That's a cool idea.

>>40919477
yeah the bitter seethe and larping as chad for credibility/authority gives it away. I know his type and it's simply failed normalfag whose chuddish tendencies got him in trouble with left leaning social groups he got pushed out of and he's been nursing a grudge decades later. Real fox and the grapes shit.

He's gonna be seething about catty faggots dabbing on him without true self awareness for the rest of his life instead of just letting it go

It's a pipeline. A lot of the fringe right is disaffected ex liberals who can't engage in the introspection needed to realize they're being assholes to everyone around them

>inb4 ur projecting

Your ultimately responsible for the kind of person you are.

>>40891301

lol

>>40919837
and he's not entirely wrong either. I've experienced the same thing with those groups and the casual sociopathy/performative behavior but he let it warp him and get infected with brain worms to cope that's the difference. It happened to a lot of us but continuing to act that way in the present at this point does not make one immune to criticism.

This isn't the 2010's anymore let alone the 90's and that isn't a le current year arguement I'm saying that right wingers are hypocritical cunt faggots in their own right and people are starting to get notice wheras before they relied on disenfranchisement to hand wave criticism

>>40918261
Lol

>>40895537
Is Metallica, Venom, Slayer, Motorhead part of pop culture? Because they were pretty extreme.
You also had Ozzy and Alice Cooper being popular and they weren't family-friendly musicians.
80s belonged to heavy metal

>>40895858
slade looks masculine, while kurt was basically a woman with a 5 o clock shadow

In a way it's sad that kurt died. Had he survived he would have been an insufferable lgbt woke tranny screeching at orange man, bad

>>40902863
ah yeah, Ozzy Osbourne or Iron maiden weren't mainstream. Lol, lmao even

>>40905792
>Bruce Lee - passed at 32 > 23
lol, now that's reaching

>>40906656
it's you, who is stupid

>>40918261
meh, that dude just doesn't get it. he's so synthetic, man, but it's odd. he's like an Ai mishmash of kurt cobain, mitch hedberg and jim morrison, plus he sounds too forced in his deliveries

this may sound nuts, but the next, still living incarnation right now, to me, is donald trump. i've never seen a singular person have such a dramatic effect on the entire fucking world like he has. i don't feel the media forces it solely. there's a genuine hatred and resentment of him to the point that people have tried to persecute him numerous times, but all have failed. dude is 79 years old and he looks better and fitter, acts sharper now than he did in his first term. his 79 year old work ethic and accomplishments thus far is simply mindblowing. Musk tried to be the next big thing, but being labeled the richest man on earth at one time, who gives a shit really? it's not about how much you make, it's about what you accomplish in life. that is your legacy. and musk always felt like a grifter of sorts to me. he took credit for the work others did for him, whether it was his team at space-x for making reusable rockets or Big Balls who deserves most of the credit for D.O.G.E.'s success. Just because you flipped the fucking bill, doesn't mean you deserve ALL the fuckin credit

Trump, on the other hand, always gives credit where credit is due. Always specifically name-drops staff members for helping him do his job. Anyway here's how Cobain affected even Ivanka Trump https://extra.ie/2017/10/24/entertainment/celebrity/ivanka-trump-said-cried-kurt-cobain-died-punk-phase

>>40919938
Incorrect

>>40919890
nah he wasnt a hypersocial normie and wouldve dropped out of the public view completely, similar to thom yorke or any worthwhile artist who separates politics from their craft. youre just a nigger stuck in a mental loop of attaching politics to everything

>>40919905
Debbie Gibson was unironically a bigger deal in the 1980's than Iron Moaden or Ozzy. Debbie's albums outsold Iron Maiden easily, and while Ozzy had two multiple platinum albums in the 1980s just like Debbie Gibson, Debbie had way more top 40 hits than Ozzy. Ozzy's biggest singles hit in the 1980s was his duet with Lita Ford, which was really tame by Ozzy standards, which basically proves my point. Also, Debbie Gibson was named songwriter of the year in 1989. You remember Ozzy mostly because he had a great "rest of his career" and because he was established well before the 1980s. Metal was still niche in the 1980s. Metallica would change that with Black (1990s), but metal was no where near mainstream as it would eventually be.

>>40919867
>Is Metallica, Venom, Slayer, Motorhead part of pop culture
Again, we are talking 1980s and we are talking pop culture. How many top 40 hits did these bands have? Metallica was the closest thing to being a pop music crossover with One, but its highest was 35 on the Biboard Top 100. And while Justice would eventually outsell acts like Prince or Debbie Gibson, almost all of those sales were post-1980s. Metal was niche in the 1980s. The kind of people that listened to metal in the 1980s gave rise to the Beavis and Butthead archetype.

>>40919867 #
>Is Metallica, Venom, Slayer, Motorhead part of pop culture
Again, we are talking 1980s and we are talking pop culture. How many top 40 hits did these bands have? Metallica was the closest thing to being a pop music crossover with One, but its highest was 35 on the Billboard Top 100. And while Justice would eventually outsell acts like Prince or Debbie Gibson, almost all of those sales were post-1980s. Metal was niche in the 1980s. The kind of people that listened to metal in the 1980s gave rise to the Beavis and Butthead archetype.

>>440919867
>Is Metallica, Venom, Slayer, Motorhead part of pop culture
Again, we are talking 1980s and we are talking pop culture. How many top 40 hits did these bands have? Metallica was the closest thing to being a pop music crossover with One, but its highest was 35 on the Billboard Top 100. And while Justice would eventually outsell acts like Prince or Debbie Gibson, almost all of those sales were post-1980s. Metal was niche in the 1980s. The kind of people that listened to metal in the 1980s gave rise to the Beavis and Butthead archetype.

>>40919867
>Is Metallica, Venom, Slayer, Motorhead part of pop culture
Again, we are talking 1980s and we are talking pop culture. How many top 40 hits did these bands have? Metallica was the closest thing to being a pop music crossover with One, but its highest was 35 on the Bilboard Top 100. And while Justice would eventually outsell acts like Prince or Debbie Gibson, almost all of those sales were post-1980s. Metal was niche in the 1980s. The kind of people that listened to metal in the 1980s gave rise to the Beavis and Butthead archetype.

>>40919755
Modern pop music is one of the most obvious examples of the hypnosis. I was at a car dealership and a top 40 type station was playing over the store speakers. Every song was repetitive. There was no dynamic, no ups and downs, just flat repetition, and the lyrics were almost all negative. The overall theme of every song seemed to be "I don't want you, I don't need you, I'm better off without you, I hate you, get out of my life." Total negativity. And the music sounded more like commercials than the commercials did. Felt like being in spiritual hell.

>>40919837
>yeah the bitter seethe and larping as chad for credibility/authority gives it away.
Anyone that has to use "you mad bro" rhetorical tactic has lost the argument.
>chuddish tendencies got him in trouble with left leaning social groups
What kind of trouble could one actually be in with "left leaning social groups?"
>It's a pipeline. A lot of the fringe right is disaffected ex liberals
Yeah, like I said, the term right wing basically means anyone that questions things. Right wing and left wing are no longer defined by ideology. They are defined by levels of obedience.

>>40920788
A good rabbit hole is the effect of music on the human brain. Basically, human brains will synch up with the frequencies of music and you can manipulate emotional regulation centers of the brain (amygdala, etc.) separately from higher functioning areas of the brain (neocortex). So, all you have to do to get someone to accept a message is to pair the image you want to implant with a catchy beat. The rise of rock music (more similar to rap music than people realize, al least from a musicology standpoint) paralleled CIA hypnosis research projects. Every aspect of society was engineered to support the MIC in 1950s America (suburbs, agriculture, culture of the automobile,.etc). I'm pretty sure they didnt leave public opinion to chance either and music was the means of manipulating public opinion.

>>40920032
No, you being retarded is not only factually correct, it is proven by science

>>40920652
never heard of her/him. even if it was true, there can be more than one popular / mainstream artist

>>40920747
Motorhead had Stay Clean, Overkill, Ace of Spades to name only a few. Metallica was quickly popular all over the world. In my country, despite the soviet regime you could find articles about ride the lightning when it was new. You had Napalm Death being on 3rd place with the hit song "Scum". You had Def Leppard before they abandoned Metal. Heck, Bon Jovi considered himself Metal at first. 80s was the only decade when Metal was not only mainstream, the same way Rap would have been popular in the 90s, it was also a zeitgeist music to the point that there were many labels doing metalsploitation, namely fake bands with the same line-up recording whatever, random music pretending to be metal, like nfamous Metal Enterpraises, or bands like Piledriver, and so on. Because the metal vinyls were selling like hotcakes in spite of quality

>>40921144
Why are you trying to rage bait?

>>40921156
Because I hate some of the anons here

>>40921152
cont.

Heck, even early Grunge was trying to be Metal before it turned into Alt Rock. "Bleach" by Nirvana has some proto-Sludge, and was considered a Metal record at the time, which pissed off Kurt at first. A british metal label Earache Records, which is famous for discovering Morbid Angel, or Bolt Thrower, tried to license Nirvana's debut for UK, but their competition offered more money

One thing that should be mentioned is one of the memoirs by Steve Albini, who said that the label / management people who surrounded Nirvana during the recording of In Utero were some of the sleaziest people he ever seen, and weren't that different from mobsters. As much as it would be easy to blame everything on Courtney, it would have been very well a joint venture of Love + Geffen

>>40921145
If you don't know who Debbie Gibson was, you dont understand the 1980's. And no. Pop music isnt subjective. The name implies that it has to be "popular" aka, pop. Pop music.is defined by things like Top 40 hits, Billboard's Hot 100, and overall album sales. Metal simply wasnt a popular mainstream genre in the 1980's.

>>40921152
>Motorhead had Stay Clean, Overkill, Ace of Spades to name only a few
If you want to talk UK.pops,.maybe. Worldwide, no.
>Metallica was quickly popular all over the world
No they werent you abject moron. They released 4 albums before they finally got a Top 40 hit and that was "One" in 1988. And that was only as high as 35. They blew up in the 90s with Black.

>>40921152
This. USA 80s charts were always meant to be gay and tame so as not to spook the satanic panic PMRC middle America market. Other countries were way different. Normies ate it up tho but all the cool kids were listening to hard-core rap and thrash metal back then

I remembered watching Headbanger's Ball in the late 80s when they interviewed Sepultura. At the time their album "Beneath the Remains" was the #1 bestselling album in Brazil. I was so jealous, I couldn't fucking believe it. I wanted to fucking hang out with Brazilians so bad at that time lol

>>40921166
>even early Grunge was trying to be Metal before it turned into Alt Rock
Look you mentally stunted nigger. Neither of these genres was popular in the late 80s and early 90s. They werent on the radio. They were barely on MTV. Metal (Pantera, Slayer, Megadeth, etc.) was basically limited to the "Headbangers Ball" and this was broadcast after 11pm on weekends. Hair bands were popular. Straight up Metal didnt get the air play. First time I saw Smells Like Teen Spirit was on the Headbangers Ball and I remember wondering who would.actually listen to that shit. It was awful, but somehow became popular.

>>40921161
Even me?
:(

>>40921152
>it was also a zeitgeist music to the point that there were many labels doing metalsploitation
No, they really weren't. You may have a point about the late 70s, early 80s. But we are talking about a genre with its roots in the 1960s counter-culture movement (Sabbath, Zeppelin, Deep Purple,.etc.). This extended into the 70s and you had bands like Aerosmith, KISS, Judas Priest, and Motorhead. But this was mostly over by the early 80s when bands like Motley Crue cleaned up their act. Metal went underground for a few years and differentiated itself from Hair Metal and gave rise to Speed Metal or Thrash, which is what you could call early Metallica. That being said, the top of the 1980s charts were dominated by acts like Prince, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Bon Jovi, Poison, .etc. we are talking about pop music. Radio friendly shit that normies listen to.

>>40888220
Hilarious. Could've easily been a movie scene.

>>40906844
you'd like elliott smith then
he was forced to do masculine shi by his dad
and he changed his name from steven to elliott cos he thought steven sounded too jock

>>40906844
>it's not gay to kiss the homies

>>40921504
Pre-Nirvana, The Cure's Disintegration album was one of my favorites when it came out, but I always hid the tape under my bed whenever friends came by to visit because I didn't want them to think I was a faggot. We were all fans of Metallica, Megadeth, Iron Maiden, Savatage and Ozzy Osbourne at the time

>>40919960
Trump absolutely does have Rockstar energy. If you go to one of his rallies, its basically a rock concert. The effect he has on a crowd is mesmerizing. The man is some kind of magician.

>>40921778
That's an amazing album. It's 100% gay as fuck, but amazing none the less. Too bad all their prior albums sucked ass.

>>40921944
Be gone, fedbois.

>>40918343
>>40918261
Russel Brand was also from these ilk but got corrupted over time
Music wise the latest incarnation is MK.Gee
I feel the same energy in myself though I've never reached their levels of fame or notoriety

>>40905805
>Johnny Depp is also affiliated with the West Memphis 3 as many celebrities are.

Yeah, the post you replied to mentioned Depp getting matching tattoos with Damien Echols, who is one of the 3. I've heard nothing of celebrities helping the murdered boys families, but they poured money into helping the 3 including creating a biased documentary.
>The man Johnny Depp helped release from Arkansas' death row has become like a brother to him, right down to getting matching tattoos.
>"We have some," Depp said Saturday as he touched a tattoo on the right side of his chest.
>"This one Damien designed. It's one of my all-time favorites, and it means quite a lot to me," Depp told The Associated Press
>Echols said whenever he and Depp get together, they often end up in a tattoo parlor. Depp said it's about "celebrating the moment."

>>40922063
I shall not worship your mealy-mouthed liberal tranny faggot idol Kurt Cobain. I eschew the MK Ultra programming. Get fucked servant of globohomo.

This turned into a /mu/ thread lmao

>>40922119
Depp's tattoo is from "I Ching" the Chinese divination text from the King Wen sequence of hexagrams. I'm more worried about his Salve Ogum tattoo, that pays homage to an African supreme deity and is a likely reference to Ifa Diviation. Regardless, this does give a good frame of reference for the people that rule over us and how they think.

>>40902863
>The epidemic started in the 1960's by the counterculture movement.

Hahaha, nobody has ever said that. There was never a defined drug epidemic in the US until the 80s in large part because of crack cocaine, which didn't use to be a thing.

>She's fully clothed and wearing a wedding dress.

LOL, she pushed every sexual boundary she could for the time, posed for Playboy, was very controversial. Why are you on a mission to pretend all 80s pop culture was like 50s Leave It To Beaver when clearly it wasn't?

>Beastie Boys were about partying, but they were overall pretty chill and didnt associate with drugs.

This has to be a joke. And we haven't even mentioned the counterculture juggernaut known as MTV that came about in the 80s.

https://nypost.com/2021/07/10/mtv-celebrates-40-years-of-sex-drugs-rock-n-roll/

>Run DMC was doing crossovers with Aerosmith.

Yes Aerosmith (a rebellious rock and roll band who were whacked out of their minds on drugs) not Neil Diamond or Lionel Richie.

>>40922230
Begone I says!

>>40922281
https://bodyartguru.com/johnny-depp-tattoos/

He shares four tattoos with Damien. Whether Damien is guilty or innocent, it's still creepy how a famous guy like Depp latched onto that guy. Surprised there's not a quote out there with Depp saying Epstein was a misunderstood genius or something.

>>40920652
>Debbie Gibson was unironically a bigger deal in the 1980's than Iron Moaden or Ozzy.

For 3 years maybe. She sold 5 million albums while Ozzy 80s solo albums did 15 million. Maiden and Ozzy could tour arenas anytime they wanted in the whole 80s.

>>40919921
All numerology is reaching

>>40922475
>Ozzy 80s solo albums did 15 million
Just give it a fucking rest already. Look at the Billboard Charts in the 1980s. That's who was popular. Ozzy was big, but that's because of Black Sabbath outside the decade. Generally speaking, metal wasnt pop during the 80s. Similar to an album like Metallica's Kill 'Em All, Ozzy sold more outside of the 1980's than he did during the 80s and a lot of his sales were CDs, which werent around during that decade. And its not just album sales. Ozzy didnt have a #1 hit the entirely of the 1980's. Gibson was absolutely bigger inside the decade.

>>40902863
>Judas Priest was never mainstream

Most mainstream radio was afraid of them but they did 50 million albums sold (12 million in the US) and are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Deep Purple was mentioned in here- for comparison, Deep Purple managed two million US sales for the album with Smoke on The Water and only one other platinum with an 80s album.

>>40922420
Kinda split here. If there is anyone I trust less than celebrities it might be small town police in the South. I dont know how and why Depp formed a relationship with Echols. It's weird, but I dont believe the West Memphis Three killed those boys. It is really, really, really fucking weird that tons of celebrities (including Metallica) were interested in the case. But I dont think a teenager with an IQ of 72 was an accomplice to those murders and the evidence wasnt there. Its also sketchy AF that Echols pushed the State of Arkansas to conduct additional DNA tests on the evidence and the State resisted new tests. That's not something a guilty person does. Depp is a fucking freak and so is Echols, but its entirely possible they both bonded over their interest in the occult and they are legitimate friends.

>>40922607
For fuck's sake. We are talking about a single fucking decade. The 1980s. We are also talking about pop music. Billboard. Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 shit. Normie music. Yes, over a 50 year career Judas Priest sold a fuck ton of records. But he was no where near the top of the charts in the 1980s. Huey Lewis outsold Priest in the 1980s and it wasnt close. Embrace the fucking nuance here.

>>40922475
Take a gander at the Weekly #1 hits from Billboard for the entire decade of the 1980s. You will see artists like Olivia Newton John, Hall and Oats, Kenny Loggins, REO Speedwagon, George Michael, Duran Duran, etc. You know who isn't on this list? Not a single metal band.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Billboard_Hot_100_number-one_singles_of_the_1980s

>>40922530
Radio was geared towards family friendly singles. It's not a complete representation of 80s musical popularity as a whole. You have to look at album sales and attendance. If you want to look at just Billboard, they also had an album chart. Ozzy had one album at #21 and then four in the top 20, with one up to #6. Debbie Gibson reached #7 and then #1 in 1989. Her next album just a year later in 1990 only made it to #41. Nirvana for Billboard singles reached #6, #32 and #64. They weren't that popular according to your radio pop chart logic.

>>40922691
Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix had ZERO top ten songs. Nirvana and the grunge bands maybe had a couple. Pearl Jam's Jeremy made it to #79 on the Billboard 100.

>>40922646
>Judas Priest
>he

>>40917927
>Diddy was talking about Kurt Cobain and why he resonated with kids.
Shit. I vaguely remember this. I didn't like Diddy even then.
I was watching him talk and thinking "why'd they interview this clown?"

>>40922765
>Led Zeppelin
my opinion of jimmy page really fell when i read about him and lori mattix

>>40922530
>Ozzy didnt have a #1 hit the entirely of the 1980's.

You must be young. The Black Sabbath and Ozzy staples of classic rock radio weren't ever big radio hits. They rose up because they provided an alternative to what was played on most radio and poetically got lots of radio play in later years because of it. Iron Man peaked at 52 in the USA and Ozzy peaked at 28 with Mama I'm Coming Home in 1991. (Exception was Lita Ford and Ozzy at number 8.)

>>40922646
Quiet Riot's "Cum on Feel the Noize" peaked at #5 in 1983. Picrel album also reached #1 that same year. I would consider them metal. That was quite a feat though. That song was a banger at the time too

I recall rarely hearing it on the radio tho or seeing the music video on MTV for that matter. I know because I would trip out on those rare occasions that it did. MTV played that Return of the Jedi Jabba the Hutt band scene with Sy Snoodles and Max Rebo music video way more with that fat chick with the six titties lol

>>40923034
Ozzy has MTV hits like Bark at the Moon and Shot in the Dark as they dared to play what radio would not.

>>40922691
If only Ozzy could have been as popular as Eddie Rabbit, Michael Sembello and Falco.

>>40922765
Soundgarden's highest charting song was Black Hole Sun at number 24, but the Superunknown album with it went to #1 and went 6 times platinum. MTV allowed people to be stars without radio.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundgarden_discography

>>40923046
Their lead singer shit-talked a lot of other more established bands in interviews and they stopped getting airplay after that

>>40923861
>>40924171
>>40923046
Why do you turbo autist retard nigger faggots keep responding to me with arguments I've already posted basically agreeing with me. How many times do I have to reiterate that we are talking about pop music? Do you retard niggers not understand that? We are talking about the dominant culture that the CIA glowniggers was trying to spread. We aren't talking about albums that an edgelord 4chan user would have listened to back in the day. We aren't talking about cumulative album sales over an entire career. We aren't talking about alternatives to radio friendly bubble gum pop people sought out. We arent talking about Soundgarden in the 1990s (wrong fucking decade). We are talking about the music that daddy glownigger wanted you to listen to in the 1980s and we are talking about the music that actually made radio lists. We are talking about the normie goyslop that most people who aren't retarded turbo autist nigger faggots consumed. Yes, for a brief fucking three year period at the end of the decade, Deddie Gibson was everywhere and outsold Ozzy. Kenny Loggins was bigger than Metallica. Hall and Oates were bigger than Motorhead.

>>40924253
Or as I've been trying to tell you fucking retards, record labels weren't pushing metal in the 1980s and Quiet Riot wouldn't clean up their act. And their biggest hit was a glam rock cover so I doubt they count as Heavy Metal anyway

>>40923861
>>40924171
>>40923046
Metal fans are seriously the vegans of the music world. Why do you turbo autist retard nigger faggots keep responding to me with arguments I've already posted basically agreeing with me. How many times do I have to reiterate that we are talking about pop music? Do you retard niggers not understand that? We are talking about the dominant culture that the CIA glowniggers was trying to spread. We aren't talking about albums that an edgelord 4chan user would have listened to back in the day. We aren't talking about cumulative album sales over an entire career. We aren't talking about alternatives to radio friendly bubble gum pop people sought out. We arent talking about Soundgarden in the 1990s (wrong fucking decade). We are talking about the music that daddy glownigger wanted you to listen to in the 1980s and we are talking about the music that actually made radio lists. We are talking about the normie goyslop that most people who aren't retarded turbo autist nigger faggots consumed. Yes, for a brief fucking three year period at the end of the decade, Debbie Gibson was everywhere and outsold Ozzy. Kenny Loggins was bigger than Metallica. Hall and Oates were bigger than Motorhead.

>>40924171
I know this is a hard concept for an autistic retard to understand, but not everyone listened to the same music as you. What you liked and listened to wasn't what people who were not teenage boys listened to. A world exists outside of what you, personally, perceive. Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, just a few acts that were bigger than Soundgarden from a pop standpoint.

>>40924287
Explain the metal concert in Moscow where Metallica played for 2 million people
Tell me more how metal has always been an unknown indie thing that never grew past Portland

>>40924348
>But POP
And? Where is this idea that mentioning the success of rock and metal music automatically erases the achievements of pop music coming from?
No one's saying there can only either be one or the other

>>40922348
You have no power over Trump. His magic is ancient.

>>40924369
Go back and read the thread and understand where the discussion came from you retarded vegan metal nigger. No one is shitting on metal. It was a discussion of pop culture. It was a comparison of what 1980s pop culture was as it transitioned to the grunge 1990s. God forbid you metal faggots realize that entire genres of music exists other than metal so you can stop hijacking threads with off-topic discussions of metal.
>there has never been a genre of music as amazing as Heavy Metal and everyone alive has always listened to Heavy Metal. Even Mozart would have played lead guitar in a metal band if they had amplifiers back then. Metallica will be studied for thousands of years as the pinnacle of music and culture.
I hate you stupid metal niggers so much.

>>40924381
Trump's the most likely politician to convince his supporters to commit a mass-suicide in protest of some policy that only affects himself

>>40924430
This attitude is what lead to the creation of nu-metal in the mid-90s
The person who hates both Nirvana and Quiet Riot, is likely a fan of Limp Bizkit

>>40924445
It may surprise you, but it's entirely possible to live your life and not have your taste in music be the driving factor behind your personal identity. I could honestly give AF less about Limp Bizkit. Its all MK Utlra mind control bullshit to me. God only knows what the retarded mumble rap shit kids listen to now is about. I'm not a degenerate or a moron so this stuff doesnt resonate with me.

>>40924504
How should I be sure you're not attempting to force us into discussing general mind control and Britney Spears?

>>40924435
He could, but he loves his supporters.so much he would never ask that.

>>40924519
Brittany Spears is a form of social programming and mind control and that discussion would absolutely be more interesting than a discussion of how popular metal.was.

>>40924528
You're the one being ambivalent over whether it was popular or not, as if it diminishes or devalues the success of all other genres

>>40924519
If you dig into Lookout Mountain AFB and Laurel Canyon, you will find that the Air Force propaganda unit that was based at Lookout Mountain AFB moved to Orlando, the place where Brittany (and a ton of other rmodern artists) got their start. That is truly a more interesting discussion than how much everyone that ever lived has always loved Heavy Metal.

>>40924348
Nobody said that there weren't artists more popular than Soundgarden, Ozzy or Judas Priest. What was being replied to were strange comments using pop singles charts as the sole judgement for the popularity of a Judas Priest, who literally toured mainstream arenas all over the world and had platinum albums, MTV play in the 1980s, sold a bajillion tshirts, etc. How butthurt do you have to be to argue that a Hall of Fame band like Judas Priest wasn't mainstream in some way? The main topic was Kurt Cobain, and Nirvana is the perfect example of mainstream success despite a lack of radio play, and Nirvana didn't have to be bigger than Madonna or Michael Jackson to be mainstream.

>>40924567
There is nothing ambivalent about Billboard charts.

>>40924591
You literally can't stop with the vegan shit, can you?
>Have I told you about how amazing metal is? Did you know Judas Priest is the most amazing band ever. Even teenage girls and 89-year-old grandmothers love Judas Priest. Judas Priest literally has topped the charts in every decade since the band formed. Christians use Judas Priest as their entrance music in services. Jews use Judas Priest in their Synagogues. The Prophet Muhammad made an exception to allow Muslims to watch Judas Priest music videos. Judas Priest is so amazing.
You are so defensive of metal that you jumped into a conversation without context. The discussion was always a discussion about 80s pop music. Judas Fucking Priest wasnt pop music. It's clear and you won't shut the fuck up about it. Literally fucking kill yourself.

>>40924430
>It was a comparison of what 1980s pop culture was as it transitioned to the grunge 1990s.

It's common knowledge that hard rock and heavy metal pop culture were central to that transition. Kurt Cobain literally went on Headbanger's Ball in a dress, and Soundgarden, Alice in Chains and Pearl Jam were all guests on there and in the metal magazines before anyone called them the marketing term "grunge". Alice In Chains opened for Poison, Extreme, Van Halen and were part of the Clash of Titans tour with Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer.

>>40924614
You're insane and literally posting in a paranormal board topic about Kurt Cobain. "BUT BUT let's completely derail and just talk about how popular Debbie Gibson was for 8 months in 1989! Derpppp!"

>>40924593
There's nothing unique about defining your choices in music with arbitrary charts ordered solely by profit

>>40924663
>There's nothing unique about defining your choices in music with arbitrary charts ordered solely by profit
How literally fucking stupid are you? The whole point was discussing those "arbitrary charts" and the people who make them. Because they are arbitrary and they are artificially created and pushed on people for a specific fucking reason (you know, mind controll). Its why this is being discussed on /x/ and not /mu/. You just cant crawl out of your own ass long enough to actually read the thread and instead blathered on about how awesome metal is, when that was never the topic being discussed. Fucking vegan.

>>40924614
We know Cobain owned Iron Maiden records and saw Judas Priest in concert during the Screaming for Vengeance tour. He didn't give a shit about Debbie Gibson or Tiffany's hit radio songs and would definitely find your psycho tantrums in here hilarious.

https://www.musiclipse.com/2024/01/16/what-was-kurt-cobains-first-concert-experience/

>>40924652
>BUT BUT let's completely derail and just talk about how popular Debbie Gibson was for 8 months in 1989! Derpppp!"
It's significant to the discussion because someone makes the decision to push Debbie Gibson onto people for a specific reason. And the same people that decided to push Debbie Gibson suddenly changed course and decided to push Nirvana. If you consider these facts in parallel, you can imply intent.

>>40924702
>He didn't give a shit about Debbie Gibson or Tiffany's hit radio songs
And yet both Kurt and Tiffany were featured on the cover of Sassy magazine. It begs the question, why?

>>40924639
>It's common knowledge that hard rock and heavy metal pop culture were central to that transition
Ah yes. The whole "common knowledge" source methodology. Common knowledge isnt whatever you feel like it is. And no, metal wasnt central to this in the 80s, it was central to this in the 60's. If you are trying to transition a population from John Wayne to the retarded tranny zoomer males that exist today, you start with 60's counterculture and make long hair cool. You then transition from metal (which arose from 60's counterculture) to 1980's hair bands and start putting make-up on dudes and have them wear tight leather pants. Next you emotionally destroy the Western male by providing them an "alternative" to hair bands which is basically a dude that looks like a chick who is smaller than his wife singing about his emotions (Cobain) and kissing dudes on TV. You finish the job in the 2010s with full-on destruction of gender roles and men who believe they are women.

>>40924823
And while all of this is going down, you build up an entire genre of music (Gangsta Rap) that basically tells the entire world toxic masculinity is cool but only if niggers do it. The entire point was the reign in the most uncontrollable and free-thinking segment of the population (white males) and make them repulsive to even their own women while while pushing race mixing in a effort to breed a race of humans too stupid or too effeminate to be a danger to those who manage the world. And Kurt Cobain played his role. He wasnt an alternative, he was essential to the plan.

>>40924652
Clearly he thinks there's occult significance behind the long-term popularity of an artist and their songs

>>40924983
There actually is. Study music, tempo, and hypnosis and you will understand why specifc tunes are "catchy." Also, the people who commissioned these studies were into the occult.

>>40924706
>And the same people that decided to push Debbie Gibson suddenly changed course and decided to push Nirvana

That's only true for MTV and Debbie Gibson Anon pretends MTV didn't exist as it had more power than radio, which at the time was not receptive to Nirvana. And Nirvana's label Geffen had struck it big with 1987 Whitesnake and Guns N Roses. Geffen was not known for dance pop. Nirvana was just a continuation of heavy rock bands for Geffen.

Courney Love was in JE's contact book:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hole/comments/11mx0u8/confused_about_this_courtney_drama/

>>40925093
Correct about Geffen, but you get my point. It's like the food industry where two or three conglomerates own basically the entire industry. Geffen is owned by Interscope who is owned by Universal. Gibson was signed to Atlantic who is owned by Warner Brothers.

>>40886448 (OP)
he was deppresed and killed himself. End of story

>>40902863
>Judas Priest was never mainstream

>>40925171
Wrong, get over it.

>>40925340
How many fucking times do I have to say pop music before you retarded faggots get it? Billboard. Top 40. Goyslop. That's what we're talking about. You heavy metal faggots really are the most insufferable music fans in existence. It's unironically a compliment to not be considered pop in the 1980's, but you retards wont even take the compliment.

>>40924300
in all fairness, Debbie Gibson and her mother were busting ass since 1983 trying to promote her as an artist and it finally paid off. Ozzy was considered a bit dated when Debbie took off. Rolling Stone magazine actually gave "No Rest for the Wicked" one star at the time lol

also, in all fairness, Motorhead is an acquired taste and a bit overrated, and Kenny predated them all with Loggins & Messina, along with Hall & Oates. It's really not about some retarded schizo psyop. America always had a stick up its ass about musical talent. Technically speaking, Kenny Loggins, Hall & Oates, even Debbie Gibson were much more accomplished musicians and singers than Motorhead and Metallica. Look at the American Grammys. A lot of literal whos win best album of the year. Jethro Tull was a snobbish entry because the Grammy judges thought Metallica's And Justice for All was a subpar album (production values sucked, the band even admitted it was a pedestrian attempt at being progressive like Dream Theater) and not worthy of receiving a grammy. The Black Album a year later deserved a grammy, because the band upped their game along with solid musical production

>>40925106
>Love is of mixed Cuban, Italian, English, Welsh, Irish, Ashkenazi Jewish, and German ancestry

Imagine being so mutted that you are a strong contender for the title of Muttiest Mutt to Ever Mutt. No wonder she has so many mental problems.

>>40925171
Sure thing, Dave.

>>40926082
She unironically looks like an albino abo. Hell if I know lol

>>40925616
>It's really not about some retarded schizo psyop.
A lot of it really is though. If you truly get into music, musicology, and mathematics, you understand there is a science and spirituality to great music. I'll spare you the wall of text, but this extends beyond just the 1950s and MK Ultra/Project Artichoke. Music is ritual. Music is literally magick. It always has been dating back to the Greeks and Babylonians.
>America always had a stick up its ass about musical talent.
Pretty much. A lot of really mid music gets passed off as great because its fused with imagery and video and it becomes part of a cultural identity.
>Technically speaking, Kenny Loggins, Hall & Oates, even Debbie Gibson were much more accomplished musicians and singers than Motorhead and Metallica.
Technically speaking, none of these performers wrote songs that were fundamentally much different than each other. Strip away the distortion, amplifiers, and different instruments, and its mostly just basic 1-4-5 chord progressions laid on top of a bass guitar that usually lays down a beat that is complimentary to the drums. Rhythm guitar is basically just there for an extra percussion instrument. Little to no exploration of harmonic variations beyond occasionally over dubbed vocals. Side note, Dave Grohl gets credit for exploring alternative tunings.
>Metallica's And Justice for All was a subpar album
It kind of was, but I dont want to trigger the Headbangers into another 90 posts about how amazing Metallica was and how much they will be studied as great musicians for the next thousand years.

Maybe the real thing Kurt shouldn't have done was let Dave in the band, most negative things can be traced back to him.

>david geffen
>dave grohl
>dg, dg
>dave knew david first
>dave knew courtney first

>>40926366
Dave Grohl was the best thing about Nirvana. Without him, Cobain was just another dysfunctional junkie that couldn't make it through a studio session.