Thread 40886925

Are inconsistencies in the Bible at fault for Christianity constantly splitting up into smaller and smaller denominations?

no, jews are.

>>40886936
Luther wasn't Jewish though

>>40886925 (OP)
No, for the most part. It's because of individual interpretation and the natural evolution of differing ideas. If people acknowledged, as the NT says (and very ironically to what I just said lol), that churches are raised up in a myriad of places around core truths - then we'd have less of a problem.

>>40886925 (OP)
>inconsistencies in the Bible
such as?

The bible was written by jews for greeks and romans working to create an institution capable of controlling the masses. The Vatican is Babylon, the thing that Jesus called the synagogue of satan — they display the tortured, dying body of Christ, and then offer the sacrificed flesh and blood through their transubstantiation death cult magic.

Would Jesus ever be welcome in pic related?

>>40886925 (OP)
Do you want the soft answer or the blunt answer that I can probably only get away with on 4chan?

What the fuck are all you people on about?

Oi!

Stop acting like fools.

>>40886925 (OP)
>Are inconsistencies in the Bible at fault for Christianity constantly splitting up into smaller and smaller denominations?
That doesn't help, but the main reason is that Christianity is a Nigerian prince scam and rarely gives anyone satisfaction, so they keep trying to make it better.

>>40886925 (OP)
it just means that you dont understand it

>>40886966
Oh I got you. Genuinely curious on how you're going to try to weasel your way out of this one. Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 present different orders of creation. Genesis 1 describes the creation of plants, then animals, and finally humans (male and female simultaneously). Genesis 2, however, states that God first created Adam, then animals as potential companions, and finally Eve from Adam's rib.

Genesis 6:19-22 states that Noah was instructed to bring two of every living creature onto the ark. However, Genesis 7:2-3 mentions an order to take seven of every clean beast and bird, and only two of every unclean beast.

And my favorite:
Numbers 23:19 we read, “God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.” First Samuel 15:29 affirms, “He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a man, that he should change his mind.”
Makes it pretty clear God doesn't change his mind. And then suddenly in Exodus 32:14, Jeremiah 18:7-8, and Jonah 3:10
Jonah 3:10 ex: "God threatens to destroy Nineveh, but relents when the people repent."

These are only a small portion of these inconsistencies

>>40887142
i got you bro

https://www.gotquestions.org/two-Creation-accounts.html

https://answersingenesis.org/days-of-creation/god-created-animals-man-and-woman-in-that-order/?srsltid=AfmBOoq9i2_1y0WnZvhD9ViR0T09lhhl08QN_H1sIg8lVo6OPBXH0bnW

>>40887142
>However, Genesis 7:2-3 mentions an order to take seven of every clean beast and bird, and only two of every unclean beast.
so some clarification on what to do means its a contradiction?

>Jonah 3:10 ex: "God threatens to destroy Nineveh, but relents when the people repent."

so....thats what God has in mind all along, obviously.

>>40886925 (OP)
bro literally read your history its the other way around
christianity STARTED as a ton of disparate cults with different writings and interpretations and gospels around the mediterranean and it was only LATER that the church met to decide which writings were "canon"
the "bible" is a construct

>>40888215
This is the actual right answer.
Schisms predated any of the written bible.

>>40888215
Not entirely true, Valentinus was a candidate for the Bishop of Rome (Pope) but was not selected. This would have radically altered the trajectory of western history. The Valentinian issue was a schism of the Catholics specifically.

>>40888277
and if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle

>>40888277
Irrelevant. Schisms still started decades before that.
Stick to /fox/.

>>40888215
the Biblical canon is the Word of God as recognized by the world wide collection of believers. there are no substantial disagreements about this and there never has been. This is the witness of history.

im sure you're about to start telling me about how they picked which books to put in the Bible at the council of nicea.

>>40887142
Those are just English translation issues.

>>40888338
>there are no substantial disagreements about this
>im sure you're about to start telling me about a historical fact
so you know the history you've just chosen ignorance

>>40887142
The word "relent" is either a loose translation or a word that bears a different connotation in the language it was originally written.

>>40886936
The jews who wrote the Bible

>>40888338
Lmao
>there are no substantial disagreements about this and there never has been.
There have been a vast number of disagreements. You are an idiot.

>>40888250
>>40888215
Early Christianity paralleled Judaism at the time in how disparate it could be depending on which region of the ME you were in. People tend to forget that the first Christians were Jews, and that meant a bunch of arguing and disagreement over stuff that wasn't universally agreed on. The key difference between the Jews arguing over stuff and Christians arguing over stuff is that Jews upheld their cultural mandates which held them together even if they disagreed on the smaller details, while early Christianity not only divorced itself from how culturally strict Judaism was, but focused primarily on the Ten Commandments (paralleling how Noahide law was used for non-Jews) and Jesus' teachings which meant everything else was up to interpretation, hence the lack of an early Christian centralized institution to organize people.

The schisms that Christianity faced were inevitable because Christianity was never really meant to revert back into an organized institution, especially when it was defined by breaking away from the cultural mandates that allowed it to exist in the first place. Jesus would likely have not agreed with Rome making Christianity into their national religion because it basically undermined what he was teaching, which was universal-compassion and love freed from the socio-cultural implications of ethnocentric abusive deity worship. Remember that the Jewish and Roman authorities BOTH wanted Jesus gone.

>>40888437
So you agree.

>>40888498
Yep. The "real" Christianity has a lot in common with Buddhism in how it is rooted in love, community, and non-dualism. Jesus was special because he did to the ME what Buddha did for East Asia, but he got fucked over by the Romans, the Jews, and even his own apostles and successors. All modern Christians have to do is simply abide by the Ten Commandments, to not allow the faith to become an institution or transform into the State, and to avoid selfish deity/ego-worship.

You should really look into how Rome crushed Gnostic Christians and Manichaeism. It's quite sad because the west could have become more sane had things been different.

>>40886925 (OP)
>Are inconsistencies in the Bible at fault for Christianity constantly splitting up into smaller and smaller denominations?
Yes, in that they write Bibles to support their own views.
No, no in that they keep splitting up because of greed, pride and hubris.
You can literally pick your religion by your preferred sins. There's a "Christian" religion that supports every sin in the devil's book.
The Lord said we have to come to him as children. The prideful can't do that, they have to claim to know everything.

>>40886925 (OP)
Not really, some different interpretations but not inconsistencies as such.

>>40887142
I'm sure someone will correct me, but I'm not sure there are any denominations that have been formed due to differing opinions on the Old Testament.

>>40888655
black hebrew israelites!

>>40887142
youre not gonna reply to any of the people debunking your so called "debunk"? low energy! sad.

>>40889869
haha nice try, but your ocean-in-a-cup vibe is more poetic than practical. sure, a cup of water might hint at the ocean, but it won’t tell you about its tides, depths, or storms. Christianity’s Incarnation; God bleeding on a cross (John 19:34); and Resurrection; Jesus walking out of a tomb (Luke 24:39); are specific currents that don’t flow from Kabbalah’s Ein Sof, an infinite void too lofty to get its hands dirty in human flesh. You’re not sipping the whole ocean; you’re mixing salt water with spring water and calling it the same drink.
If it’s a “skill issue,” then explain how Ein Sof’s untouchable infinity meshes with a God who dies and rises to beat death. Christianity’s truth isn’t just a droplet in your universalist cup; it’s a wave that crashed through Nero’s fires and Diocletian’s edicts, growing stronger in spite of them (Eusebius 8.2). Christians might annoy you, but their faith’s scars prove its depth, not your net’s reach. wanna try untangling how Kabbalah’s sparks square with a risen Christ?

>>40890069
>wanna try
>you're not x you're y!
llm fag

>>40890504
Midwit illiteralist cope.

>>40886925 (OP)
No, Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy are just holdovers from state folk religion that didn't let regular people read the bible

>>40890524
u could read it tho see wyclyfe translation

>>40886925 (OP)
This the new cope? Athiests can't prove any contradictions in the Bible, so now they resort to 'inconsistencies'. Keep reading the cliff notes instead of the actual Bible. I'm sure your half assed approach is better than the billions of people spending hundreds of years studying it.

>>40890069
>uses AI to write an argument for him
Ahahaha thats some low IQ shit haha

>>40890848
thats not me, and im not OP, or the anon the post was replying to, but OP still hasnt replied to anyone debunking his "debunk". We can only take that as OP conceding the point and moving the goal posters silently further down the thread in avoidance of his earlier erroneous points.

>>40886925 (OP)
>the causation in muh non causal artifical realityerino

Lol, yeah what caused all these events was it previous actions by "people"


Lol