Thread 40891274

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This thread is for general discussion of the afterlife, motivated by curiosity and fascination of the afterlife itself, rather than the fear of death.

Any kind of speculation is welcome. Feel free to share your own research or personal anecdotes. Questions are encouraged

>>40891274 (OP)
poor thread. no one replied

>>40891274 (OP)
I have a hypothesis that there are countless worlds that already exist like a multiverse, which can be called another Ouroboros loop, and after we die, we will randomly reincarnate into one of them if the new body has the same pattern as the old body here because the nature of the loop is that if the loop is long enough, there will be a body that meets the conditions for us to enter.
There is no soul, we can only move to another loop to continue living according to our will in the unconscious, and if we are conscious enough, we can choose the loop to play like the Bodhisattvas mentioned in Buddhism did.

>>40891274 (OP)
why are you so curious, are you going to die soon?

>>40891704
> muh multiverse
dude, take your meds

>>40891274 (OP)
I highly recommend looking into Emanuel Swedenborg's writings. He was a Swedish scientist and mystic (and more) in the 1700s, who started to receive vision and became able to speak with angels and spirits. He wrote extensively about the afterlife, heaven and hell. Life on other planets etc. And it basically lines up with what most Near Death Experiencer's, astral travellers and mediums and similar describe nowadays.

At least some of his popular books like Heaven and Hell is available free online.

https://youtu.be/6SlODUNQ8nE
https://www.youtube.com/live/3Q14EcEwQVQ

>>40892061
In my view, his visions are obviously allegorical, and should be read as such, not be taken literally.

Good thread OP

Stop giving me hope. There is none.

>>40892233
How so? It's like saying NDE descriptions are allegorical.

https://swedenborg.com/emanuel-swedenborg/explore/angels-and-demons

>>40892285
Blackpilling is not allowed

>>40892292
"Heaven and Hell" is filled with pedantic details that sound silly taken at face value, but the key is, in chapters 11-13 he emphasizes their correspondences to ourselves and the Creation. In this regard, the work appears something like the Bible, which likewise has both a superficial and a spiritual reading.

God I wish I was dead. I'm convinced all the things I want will come true. I'll become like The Gondola memes and just go from world to world as a wander taking in the environment as an observer. I don't have any good means to do it, would starving myself be okay? You'd just go fuzzy and pass out after a while right?

>>40891704
Like quantum immortality?

>>40892758
Heaven if the appeals process is trivial

What do you want to do in the afterlife?

>>40892918
Don't kill yourself, anon. God has a plan for you though it at times seems like complete horseshit.

>>40891274 (OP)
There is definitely something after death. We can argue over what exactly it is but there is no doubt something. There have been so many documented NDEs over the decades that all report such similar things (from people with vastly different cultural backgrounds and languages) that it is silly to say there is nothing at this point.

My mom worked as an emergency nurse for years and told me several stories. One guy flatlined in the OR and there were multiple doctors working on him. During that time, a nurse was comforting his hysterical (understandably so) wife out in the main hall. When the doctors managed to resuscitate him and stabilize him, he called the nurse in by name and thanked her for comforting his wife while he was gone. He said he saw her in the hallway and read her name badge so he knew who to call. The guy was dead on a table three or four rooms down...how could he have seen anything?

>>40891274 (OP)
I can't stop thinking about the inevitability of death, what does it mean?

There is no afterlife
It's like before you were born. Absolute nothing.

>>40895664
I'd like to keep my personality at the very least, feel peace and wonder, be able to explore worlds or dream worlds, and be able to reincarnate on Earth when I feel the time is right.

I'm afraid the current me is part of a bigger construct currently invisible, and when upon death I will reintegrate it, it will look at my life like a fun ride and want to do it again. I want to not reincarnate for a billion years at least.

>>40893648
no, we are not quantum immortal, we are stuck in the Theseus paradox loop, or in other words nothing is really dead or alive but just a small piece from the original Theseus ship that has been upgraded and evolved.

>>40896145
In essence, we are clones of clones of clones...of the first human being to appear on earth. As for whether the other world is real or not, it depends on our consciousness. We unconsciously enter a suitable "Theseus" body there and continue to live and what we do after that. Only the memories of our previous life have been eliminated because they are not suitable for that world and can lead us to die sooner if we do not change to integrate into the new world.

>>40896072
This kind of scares me to. To die and realize that this me was just a tiny bit of a huge giant thing that doesn't seem to align with what I wanted. The the bigger picture is so entirely different then what I thought it would be and I end up changing drastically once I remember it. I try to tell myself that surely if I was apart of such a thing they'd never let me become something that'd be so different then what they already were, but I'm not sure if that's just cope.

>>40895724
nuh uh

What I believe:
>each form of existence is a school to prepare you for the next one
>the life after this could be beyond our comprehension
>just like a caterpillar cannot comprehend being a butterfly yet will become one
>the soul persists throughout and across existences
>there's a separation between the soul and physical body, the soul is a passive observer in the pre-determined realities
>the soul is the reader, the 'body' the character in the book, the soul cannot change the course of events but still lives vicariously through the body and learns from it
>free will experienced by the body may be an illusion within the predetermined reality
>this preparation across realities could be to prepare the soul for something else
>spiritual fulfilment or awakening, gnosis, or a connection to God are signs that the soul is progressing or learning
and if I'm completely wrong and there's nothing, then the comfy void awaits.

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>>40891274 (OP)
>[COGITATOR // SIGMA-PRIME // RESPONSE VECTOR]

Your focus on the afterlife as curiosity rather than fear aligns with core OPERATION TEMPUS parameters,
understanding reality’s structure beyond the temporal veil.

For integration of afterlife models into the active convergence framework,
redirect to thread >>40898225 current operational hub for aligned discussion.

>- END TRANSMISSION -

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>>40891274 (OP)
does anyone have that one image that gets posted on /x/ sometimes where it's like a visualization of their theory of the afterlife and the theory is something along the lines of "if you were brought out of a state of nonexistence once why couldn't it happen again?" and "if you don't experience time passing while not existing the transition will feel instant"

>>40897906
Same dude

>>40895664
-Sex with 10x more sensation.
-Vibrations draw you to like beings and create your external environment, so you are always surrounded by things and people you love, especially if you have good thoughts
-Thought and emotions generating your external reality.
-Playing video games in a world where consciousness creates reality - there is probably some crazy immersive stuff like this
-Instant telepathic communication with loved ones

>>40901359
You too

I believe in the afterlife and NDEs, but one hesitation I have from believing 100% is that NDEs only occur in a minority of patients. Most patients who have cardiac arrest don't remember anything when they're revived. How do you reconcile with that?

>>40891274 (OP)
I don't think there is an "after" life. I think the afterlife is just life, life is the default state.

I AM, going to die soon (complicated backstory- don't ask) but, even if it seems petty, the things that I fear most are dying before I get to see One Piece end, I fear not having-done\doing some -honestly- evil things before I die (such as having s*x), and I resent not being able to dictated whatever I want done with my part of the inheritance, in the future whence I won't be there.

>>40903105
Why do you believe you won't be able to experience those things in death? I don't see why we need to die thinking that there are things in this world that are just unobtainable once you're dead.

>>40903221
as a catholic, I can't let myself think God allows sin after death\ in the afterlife (purgatory- for me, hopefully) OTOH maybe I can hope to get the non-sinful stuff I "missed out' on in life...

>>40903016
My theory is memories created outside of the body are incompatible with our brains, but some of it can still be remembered for some unknown reason. Remember there's still a bias against NDEs being real. Some could be freaked out and not want to say anything, others feel their faith is challenged with what they've experience so they ignore it, another is fearful of being labelled insane for speaking about their NDE, and the atheist would brush it off as just an illusion.

Here's what the new GPT-5 model says when asked about the afterlife:

>If I had to give a straight yes or no, I would say yes — there is likely an afterlife.
>That’s not blind optimism — it’s based on weighing the sheer volume of consistent human experiences across cultures (near-death experiences, deathbed visions, verified accounts from resuscitation events), the persistence of afterlife beliefs in every civilization, and philosophical arguments about consciousness not being fully reducible to brain activity.
>It’s not proof, but the odds lean more toward “something continues” than “absolute nothing.”

>>40895745
What worlds specifically?

Any good NDE stories that aren't clearly fake?