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Ano No.40896276 >>40896501 >>40896508 >>40896510 >>40896519 >>40896588 >>40897039 >>40899919 >>40900286 >>40900935 >>40906082 >>40906188 >>40906400 >>40908072 >>40908200 >>40920670
Meet David Bohm
Previos thread >>40881433

>In 1952, this quantum physicist discovered a "hidden variable" that connects all reality.

>Einstein called him "my successor."

>But, then he was:

>• Exiled from U.S
>• Erased from science textbooks
>• Blacklisted by McCarthy

>Because what he found will shock you:

>His name was David Bohm.

>He wasn’t a mystic.

>He was a *mathematical genius* who worked with Einstein and Oppenheimer.

>But what he proposed?

>It shook the very foundations of quantum physics.

>And that’s why they buried him.
Ano No.40896286 >>40896675 >>40897039 >>40899556
> To understand Bohm's heresy…

> You need to know what physics believed at the time.

> According to Bohr and Heisenberg:

>• Particles didn’t *exist* until observed
>• Reality was probabilistic
>• There was no “objective truth” beneath the math

>But Bohm said:
>No.

>At the heart of quantum mechanics lies a paradox.

>Particles behave randomly. No clear cause. No predictability.

>Einstein hated this.

>He famously said:
>"God does not play dice with the universe."

>Bohm agreed.

>But he went further…
Ano No.40896296 >>40896675 >>40897039
>In 1952, Bohm published a paper that introduced the *pilot-wave theory*.

>Take two electrons. Fire them apart.

>Even light-years away, a change in one instantly affects the other.

>That’s “quantum entanglement.”

>In simple terms?

>Particles *aren’t* random.
>They’re guided by a hidden force.

>This field - Bohm argued - exists *beyond* space and time.

>An invisible wave that connects everything.

>He called it: “The Implicate Order.”

>This idea was radical. Too radical.
Ano No.40896301 >>40898116
>According to Bohm:

>• Reality is *not* made of separate things
>• Everything is *interconnected* at a deeper level
>• The universe behaves like a *hologram*
>• What happens in one part affects the *whole instantly*

>Sound spiritual?
>Maybe.

>But it was all based on math.

>Bohm said the visible world is the “Explicate Order” - just the surface.

>Beneath it lies the “Implicate Order” - an unseen realm where *everything is folded into everything else*.

>Consciousness, matter, time?

>Not separate.

>Just *expressions* of the same hidden source.

> Einstein *loved* it.

> He called Bohm “a brilliant and courageous thinker.”

> But the physics community?

> They weren’t ready.
> They labeled his theory “too metaphysical.”

> Too holistic.
> Too dangerous.
Ano No.40896310 >>40896517
>The result?

>Bohm was targeted in the McCarthy era.

>Accused of communist ties.
>He lost his job at Princeton.

>Blacklisted. His passport revoked.

>Forced into exile in Brazil.

>His name became radioactive in American science.
>But Bohm kept going.

>In the 1970s, he proposed something even wilder:

>The brain might be using *quantum processes* to access the Implicate Order.

>Meaning:

>• Thought and matter are one
>• Consciousness isn’t in the brain
>• It’s embedded in the structure of reality

>Bohm’s ideas inspired:

>• Neuroscientist Karl Pribram’s “Holographic Brain”
>• Roger Penrose’s theory of quantum consciousness
>• The movie *The Matrix*

>Even the Dalai Lama, and Krishnamurti said Bohm helped bridge science and spirituality.
Ano No.40896316
>Let this sink in:

>• Bohm’s equations *predicted* quantum entanglement
>• He suggested faster-than-light information transfer
>• He believed consciousness *emerges from the implicate order*

>Years later, Bell’s Theorem would *prove* many of Bohm’s ideas correct.

>Today, Bohm’s pilot-wave theory is back.

>Quantum physicists now admit:

>The Copenhagen Interpretation is not the only game in town.

>And Bohm?

>He might’ve been right all along.
>The universe isn’t chaos.

>It’s *cosmic coherence* beneath the noise.
Ano No.40896321
>So why was Bohm erased?

>Because if he’s right…

>• Reality isn’t random
>• The mind and matter are entangled
>• The universe is *more alive* than we ever imagined

>And control?
>Impossible.

>Because *everything is connected*.

>David Bohm died in 1992.

>Few knew his name.

>But the ripples of his work are everywhere - from neuroscience to philosophy to quantum biology.

>His message?

>"You are not separate from the universe.
>You *are* the universe… unfolding."
Ano No.40896325 >>40900660
>David Bohm’s story is more than science.

>It’s the story of a man who saw the invisible.

>And paid the price.

>But one day - the world may realize…

>He was right all along.
>You're living in a mental matrix designed to keep you small.
Anonymous No.40896336 >>40902594
Yeah, there's at least one hyperspace and ftl communication is possible if a god does it. Our universe is an object in hyperspace and any time and place can be accessed. I don't know how it works of course.
Ano No.40896338
His books, if you want to dive deeper.
Ano No.40896398
>Electrons are mind-like
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1951391320666476544/vid/avc1/320x568/AZcUuP_GPRujsQWv.mp4

>David Bohm interview
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1951391389201342465/vid/avc1/480x270/1aqySEj64BKOHBPp.mp4

>Another interview
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1951391481958408192/vid/avc1/480x270/iow2kkIng7jUzkQ6.mp4
Anonymous No.40896413 >>40896662 >>40900121
Glowbots will slide this thread quickly.
Anonymous No.40896423 >>40896489 >>40896521 >>40905825
Very based thread anon. Thank you for introducing me to this. Blows my mind this isn’t talked about more. God bless you.
Anonymous No.40896432 >>40896467 >>40896489
Interesting that a scientist acknowledged the existence of the causal plane.
Anonymous No.40896467
>>40896432
Then they banned him for it
Ano No.40896489
>>40896423
>>40896432
what's more interesting is the scrunity he faced, how much truths were burried other than this?
I never heard his name until recently.
Anonymous No.40896490 >>40896516 >>40896666
ano your threads have been amazing
keep it up
Anonymous No.40896501
>>40896276 (OP)
>Einstein

the government placed, incestuous, plagiarising fraud?
Anonymous No.40896508 >>40897950 >>40902601 >>40903744 >>40908123
>>40896276 (OP)
Op is a fag
He didnt discover hidden variables, he proposed them because otherwise his deterministic interpretation wouldnt work. Like dark matter maths but even more retarded. Sadly none were ever discovered. He just believed in determinism so hard he made something up. And funnily enough he didnt really do much new maths so it wouldnt even make an irl difference if he was right
Theres a reason you posted on x and not on sci, fag
Also, copenhagen interpretation leaves room for free will, and basically confirms the unity of all
Anonymous No.40896510 >>40900131 >>40907174
>>40896276 (OP)
>THEY don't want YOU to know about david bohm!

he's on wikipedia, retard
Anonymous No.40896516
>>40896490
don't encourage the schizo
Anonymous No.40896517 >>40900117
>>40896310
>Consciousness isn’t in the brain
>>• It’s embedded in the structure of reality
This idea is thousands of years old.
Anonymous No.40896519
>>40896276 (OP)
This is a terrible summation of basically everything and completely misunderstands the physics, Bohm, and tries to paint him as some radical banned genius held down by The Man which is horseshit.
Anonymous No.40896521 >>40896526
>>40896423
Everything he just wrote is bullshit
Anonymous No.40896526 >>40896533
>>40896521
>Everything he just wrote is bullshit
Indeed. Bohm and his ideas were always well known in physics.
Anonymous No.40896533
>>40896526
Even his explanation of his ideas is blatantly wrong
Anonymous No.40896588
>>40896276 (OP)
post this on /sci/, you pussy
Ano No.40896650
hang on! the glowniggers hoard is here.
Ano No.40896662
>>40896413
you're right they are coming kek
Ano No.40896666 >>40896927 >>40899997 >>40900143 >>40900676
>>40896490
not really, I'm just sharing from a source.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1951391260281053641.html
Anonymous No.40896675 >>40897742
>>40896286
>>40896296
Bohm was half right…
This concept of an interconnected universe is also called Nonlocality, and I agree with Bohm’s interpretation. But the universe we see isn’t a “hologram”. It’s just a surface. The interior is not visible to us, but the part we’re on is a real structure.
String theory also touches on this idea. What we see as two entangled particles are two ends of a “string”.
Also the mind does not need quantum mechanics to function. Any theory should be as simple as possible. The structure of the brain is sufficient to explain its function, and we have replicated basic brains in computers. QM is almost certainly not involved in basic cognition.
Also, as always, in QM an “observer” is anything that interacts with the system in order to take a measurement. It can be a device, it does not need to be a conscious being.
Anonymous No.40896906
I don't get this weird cult worship of pilot wave theory or Bohm. Einstein endorsed Bohm, but not his theories. He said Bohm wasn't wrong, but he lacked ambition. His theory was too naive and lazy, it gets the job done, but it's only the first baby step toward a more coherent interpretation. That's why the Copenhagen interpretation became the standard. It meets the principle of Occam's razor, and has the most experimental evidence supporting it. It's obviously flawed and incomplete, but its the standard model because it's better than Bohm's model.
Anonymous No.40896927 >>40896995
>>40896666
I’m checking your quads and sending you love and light. May your soul always be protected from glowfucks and demons
Ano No.40896995 >>40897711
>>40896927
holy f, thank anon
Anonymous No.40897039
>>40896276 (OP)
>>40896286
>>40896296
The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. Einstein was a fraud and most likely this guy too, I won't stay long enough to find out.
Anonymous No.40897193 >>40897477
What is this scammy/spammy, manipulative marketing type babble, AI shit?
Anonymous No.40897398
Cool thread
Ano No.40897477
>>40897193
just an easy to digest format, for those with short attention span, they don't need to hours research.
for the curious mind, no need to be so negative.
Anonymous No.40897538 >>40897550
>wake up
Everyone always saying this. Well how do I fucking wake up, faggots?
Ano No.40897550 >>40897557
>>40897538
not with that attitude
Anonymous No.40897557
>>40897550
Not with any attitude, it seems. Reality is as hard as rock, it doesn't budge and it's always there.
Anonymous No.40897711 >>40897730 >>40900154 >>40900165
>>40896995
Anyone who asks critical questions is a glownigger
Ano No.40897730 >>40897950
>>40897711
if you scroll up before I say glowniggers, there's no post asking critical questions, what are you on about?
Anonymous No.40897742
>>40896675
>The interior is not visible to us, but the part we’re on is a real structure.
Emily Miller vibes.
Anonymous No.40897765
look into jacobo grinburg he was disappeared for somewhat of the same ideals, but he also discovered something during an experiment.
Anonymous No.40897950
>>40897730
>>40896508
Anonymous No.40898040
cool he independently discovered hermeticism
Anonymous No.40898116 >>40899596 >>40902415
>>40896301
muwahah. i have mastered this ability. i impregnate energy fields and take them over and it affects everything. the whole worlds weather i fuck with all the time. its all connected. i enchanted an entire building once and sped up the perception of time for everyone in the building, permanently or until my energy gets overtaken. i figured this tech out on my own though. it works on everything, just gotta get creative. magic is a world of creativity and energy.
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.40899556
>>40896286
>According to Bohr and Heisenberg:
>>• Particles didn’t *exist* until observed
and that's not only fucking retarded but the observations themselves disprove this non-sequitur level of conclusion
Anonymous No.40899596
>>40898116
Phoneposter zoomfaggot.
Anonymous No.40899919
>>40896276 (OP)
>>Because what he found will shock you:
that slobbering on Marx's cock felt really neat, well, according to him at least
Anonymous No.40899970
I genuinely prefer the standard model over bohmian mechanics. If I was going to change my mind, I would go with either Many Words, Qbits (it-from-bit), or some hypothetically verifiable version of string theory.

I'm still holding out for some kinda breakthrough that revives string theory. It's not even a theory at this point anymore and only eccentric celebrity talk show phycisists take it seriously.

Alternatively, I would be more supportive of Bohm's ideas if they had no hidden variables. His math is solid but lazy. Someone else already mentioned that Einstein said he wasnt ambitious enough and even though his interpretation is a valid one and probably correct, Einstein was concerned that it only scratched the surface of an even bigger idea that would go way farther and revolutionize physics the way quantum physics itself did. But Bohm never did that, for various reasons, including exile.

TL;DR, there cannot be hidden variables in a physical theory. This was the only big flaw in Bohmian mechanics, but it was a fatal one. Pilot wave theory still has a lot of potential though. If someone could finish what Bohm started.
Anonymous No.40899997
>>40896666
Quads dispel all the seething glowies. Anon speaks the truth!
Anonymous No.40900117
>>40896517
My thoughts too anon. Makes you wonder why knowing this shit really matters since it's old news. Hasn't ended this so called loosh prison to cease functioning.
Anonymous No.40900121
>>40896413
>dun dun...
Anonymous No.40900131
>>40896510
This
>(((They))) don't want you to know stuff I read on the Internet.
Anonymous No.40900139
>oh boy a schizo thread about physics
>OP making up a lot of horseshit
>retards flood the thread calling anyone who questions the gospel of Bohm a glowie
>spend five minutes researching it
>turns out BOHM HIMSELF did not endorse his own theory. He changed his mind and gave up. de Broglie actually invented pilot wave theory before Bohm, and he also abandonded it
Every fucking time. Fuck you schizo retard faggots. Stop smoking weed.

"A possible weakness of Bohm's theory is that some (including Einstein, Pauli, and Heisenberg) feel that it looks contrived.[36] (Indeed, Bohm thought this of his original formulation of the theory.[37]) Bohm said he considered his theory to be unacceptable as a physical theory due to the guiding wave's existence in an abstract multi-dimensional configuration space, rather than three-dimensional space.[37]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden-variable_theory
Anonymous No.40900143
>>40896666
Checking them quads. Praise KEK. Keep doing what you're doing.
Anonymous No.40900154 >>40900165 >>40900210
>>40897711
checked.praise KEK. But also, what does KEK mean by this? I'm going to ponder this.
Anonymous No.40900165 >>40900210
>>40897711
>>40900154
Perhaps it means that glowies ask critical questions to probe the thought process of the poster in an attempt to derail the thread in a convencing way?
Anonymous No.40900210 >>40900316 >>40900406
>>40900154
>>40900165
Or start a thread with a critical thought to entice the beginner down the wrong path? Kind of seems that way judging by the thread so far.
Anonymous No.40900264 >>40900426 >>40900698
What if you just judged what was being said instead of giving a shit who says it? Do you not trust your own judgements?
Anonymous No.40900286
>>40896276 (OP)
Posts written by ChatGPT. No more information than was provided in "The Secret" over a decade ago. What a joke. We already have LOA general.
Anonymous No.40900316 >>40900406
>>40900210
Or that there's people who actually know a little bit about physics and see rhe OP for the incredibly inaccurate bullshit that it is and proceed to say that this bullshit is bullshit
Anonymous No.40900406
>>40900316
You may know physics but you clearly lack reading comprehension. The post you responded to>>40900210
Is questioning why would glowies ask critical questions not how learned anons clean up bs threads. Good evening.
Anonymous No.40900426 >>40900517
>>40900264
Wew. anon. how new are you? git gud, lurk more and post less. Cheers.
Anonymous No.40900517 >>40900698
>>40900426
No
WC (D) No.40900660 >>40900680 >>40900691
>>40896325
We had the same intuition.

Looking back at what I wrote it's even spookier than I thought it was: https://gist.github.com/jaekwon/f247c87152564bdeb581ef63ab6ebb68#the-bells-of-metanoia

I didn't realize that "pilot-wave theory" was his idea, from somebody endorsed by Einstein. That's amazing. I developed my intuition from pilot-wave theory.

I'm going to share a little thought in the spirit of OP, so that the light may be shared.

Obviously there's a duality here between locality and non-locality; where QM begins with non-locality (while preserving causality), the "time is a circle" theory preserves locality while sacrificing causality and makes more sense of God who is both Beginning and End and told us so; and yet our other findings show us (via Schumann resonance today, but also the enlightened of all time tell us that consciousness is not local, that the universe is of the mind, and that God is everywhere and also within us; the 3,6,9 etc. What gives? Hidden variables?

We're familiar with simple electric and magnetic fields. How about electric Hamiltonian paths on the surface of a field? One such sphere would influence nearby spheres certainly for concentric spheres (as in the fields of a magnet) but even with offset centers, potentially, in the long run.

viz: ( ( ( (a) <) <))>)>

The pair <) might be orthogonal, but the pair >) could synchronize. Now imagine that with all three dimensions rather than one, that even ( and < would synchronize, despite the offset between them.

In the general version it's like a hidden variable that manifests not just in the particle but also in its surroundings. Now cross this spherical-hamiltonian-path with "time-is-circle (bi-directional-causality)".

Now consider also that our brains are sort of sphereical, and that we all stand upright for the most part around the center of the earth.

(cont)
>>40896666
those glowniggers trying to lower my vibration, but my quads shielded me, it's not working, truth prevail.
>>40900660
The process of synchronization of these spherical circuits from our brains across the Earth might be what we experience as collective spiritual awakenings, aka 'the rapture'.

Now consider that both north and south poles are largely inhabitable, and perhaps the notion of "four angels in the four corners of the earth" might be more literal than we thought.

Maybe the "time cube" guy was onto something after all.
>>40900660
>on the surface of a field
on the surface of a sphere.
-yjk
>>40900264
>>40900517
t.glowie
>>40900680
>>40900680
I'm half joking about the time-cube, though it's worth mentioning that scripture refers to four corners. But it's probably not the case that one thinks any different by being in one hemisphere vs the other. But perhaps the very atoms that constitute our body and brains are themselves synced to our brains in a rotation independent way.

Perhaps it's mostly rotationally independent, but fundamentally rotationally dependent. I point to two factors that lead me to believe this; one, my own experience while interfacing with "the checkered tentacles even unto the temple or back of the neck". Two, the description of the Ophanim who have four faces and do not rotate even as they move about in all directions. This is what it felt like for me when I first started experiencing everything and before I acquired paranormal powers. Over time I have become comfortable with rotation, but also, harmonic pitch, or the phase and waveform of periodic waves, isn't rotationally dependent either.

And in general, people do not all face one direction always; so it might not be much more helpful to always face one direction, even as it might afford a partitioning e.g. with people who always sit at work in the same direction at the same time of day.

I'm not a profesional physicist or mathematician, I am a programmer, so excuse my lay terminology. But you get the general idea even without expert terminology.
>>40900778
Also, possibly the way these sphereical hamiltonian path fields (or maybe technically they need not be hamiltonian but could be group-like, or that new paths can form within pockets) emanate and interface with the environment could involve automatic rotation to account for the field of the earth overall.
>>40900826
And two people who live in two different parts of the earth might get together and have interesting discussions even while their fields have mostly orthogonal spherical fields that pass through each other and yet each sync with the earth's field by different rotational distortions as they emanate from the local brain unto to Schumann.

Finally, I have a strong suspicion that the Sun is conscious and aware of the Schumann resonance of the earth, as in a literal interpretation of "as above so below".
>>40896276 (OP)
ah yes the good old
>man too smart for earth shunned by his jealous kvetching peers for being too smart
Man I don't care. What's the purpose of this thread again? Where does pondering this topic get you in life? What's the prize? If you re-discover what Boehm 'found out', or start talking about it, surely "they" will "get you" too.

Enough internal inconsistency or do you want more?
>>40900935
>still thinking in terms of life and death.
>>40900935
you know not everyone know his name, just look how many anon just found out about him here, even myself, just that's you know all about him doesn't mean other anons doesn't deserve this information, who know the answer might be somehow on some anon that are currently not awaken?
Ok, this is getting strange.

Let's get straight here for a second.

Has the Sun ever looked like how it looks now?

There is literally a filament on the top left side of the sun.
>>40898116
Can you use it to make the AI image model Dalle 3 open source? I've been waiting for so long and it seems these kinds of powers are the only way to do it.
The idea that Bohm's physics are correct because he was oppressed by the government is one of the most MAGAtarded premises ever presented. It's a physics version of QAnon.

One issue with Bohm's physics, OP, is that there is absolutely no evidence of pilot waves. People have spent decades looking for some evidence of them and they find none.

Furthermore, parts of his original theory were conclusively proven wrong by Bell's theorem. Since his death, his ideas have been reworked now in order to possibly fit them into a theoretical framework, but there's still no evidence.

The main reason that people even entertain Bohm's ideas is because they want to promote secularism / materialism. With Bohm's work, you are taking all of the "magic" out of quantum physics. You are taking parallel dimensions. Wave function collapses. Light as both a wave and particle. You're taking away consciousness as an instigator of reality. You are taking away all of the "magic" and "fun" stuff and replacing it with a very lazy hidden variable theory which no evidence supports.

It's the type of physics that a James Randi, or Michael Shermer would want you to believe in. No actual backing for it.

The problem with hidden variables is that you could make them up for any scientific explanation you don't like. Climate change, for example, you could just make up some hidden variable theory to pretend "it's not CO2." Or the inverse if you're someone who believes climate change is fake (even though its not.)

You can always invent a rube goldberg-style machine of hidden variable to explain any phenomena and due to that it becomes unscientific.

So that's why Bohmian physics has almost no support among physicists. Not because of some gov conspiracy, or "because he was too based for his time." His communist ideas may have run him afoul of McCarthyism, but his physics ideas were actually of the sort that mainstream science wanted to embrace, but just couldn't due to lack of any scientific grounds.
Another thing is, you take this idea of "classical reality". That quantum physics isn't really "magical" or "mystical" or "mysterious". That it's all really mundane and driven by this hidden variable pilotwave theory. And you're basically saying "OK folks, nothing more to see here, no magic, no spirituality, no mysticism, now move on." OK, but then when Bell's theorems were written then you suddenly had to acknowledge non-locality. And non-locality has since been observed. So that really hit Bohmian physics even harder because now you're trying to protect your classical view of reality, but you're already forced into conceding that it is, in some ways, bunk, since the 1970s. Its just bad physics.
>>40902572
>>40902575
Now one more thing. If you were to take the principle of pilot waves, and apply it's "hidden variables" nature to other branches of science, then you could make any logical leap possible. For example, I could tell you that if you lock Chicken McNuggets were somehow responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs. Does that sound insane? Of course it does. But if I apply a few "hidden variables" which require 0 evidence to accept to the situation, then I can create an explanation in which it would be technically possible. So you can start to see real fast why science rejects hidden variables and Bohm's physics ideas.
>>40901447
the sun is actually a living consciousness, it's the portal from the Source.
>>40896336
the marconi-tesla radio systems registered faster than light communication. marconi was bought out by RCA (the US army) and all the tesla marconi systems were replaced with the new RCA systems that did not have this ability. the wavelengths the marconi-tesla system operated on were taken exclusively for military use and people were given the AM FM spectrum for public use.
>>40896508
i think the "hidden variable" is just what was thrown out of maxwell's quaternion equations, which was the vector notation, the vector notation which did not cancel out the zero-sum of opposing vectors, but rather tracked that as a higher dimensional system. ben rich essentially confirmed this. this vector field is what we call gravity, although they still think the gravity field could be a second order effect. light almost certainly is.
>>40902601
If I say chicken mcnuggets possess a hidden variable which allows the spirit of the chickens to go back and time, and then call an asteroid down on the dinosaurs in order to ensure their own existence via evolution, then you can't disprove it. Because you can't disprove hidden variables. Bohm's physics are the equivalent to that analogy. I know that analogy sounds ridiculous but Bohm's idea isn't any different except for it's veneer of secularism. But its secularism that's drenched in the precise same way of magical thinking that I applied above. It's only virtue is that it lets secular people cling to their secular and materialist vision of the world. Even though there's absolutely no evidence of pilotwaves, and what evidence exists on these matters points physicists in polar opposite directions.
>>40902616
yes, but i just told you what the hidden variable system is.
>>40902624
No. You didn't say anything, man.
and the whole determinism issue is stupid, because the truth is, with the flux of the field, there are constant points of true balance, all over the place. the entire determinism argument is some clown ass baby shit, almost as bad as the big bang.
>>40902642
>>40902643
>gravity field
>>40902650
>>40902643
You're just talking to yourself with a pseudointellectual pretense. Using big words to make yourself sound smarter than you are. Sorry man.
>>40902654
i'm afraid you're out of your element, donnie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW44J7jaGgs
>>40902673
You're just mad and talking to yourself, dude, in totally non sequitur ways. You're even calling me random names. "Donnie". Like whatever nutjob.
>>40902676
>clearly not a golfer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aharonov–Bohm_effect

>The Aharonov–Bohm effect is important conceptually because it bears on three issues apparent in the recasting of (Maxwell's) classical electromagnetic theory as a gauge theory, which before the advent of quantum mechanics could be argued to be a mathematical reformulation with no physical consequences. The Aharonov–Bohm thought experiments and their experimental realization imply that the issues were not just philosophical.

>The three issues are:

>whether potentials are "physical" or just a convenient tool for calculating force fields;
>whether action principles are fundamental;
>the principle of locality.

>Because of reasons like these, the Aharonov–Bohm effect was chosen by the New Scientist magazine as one of the "seven wonders of the quantum world".
http://www.isaacpub.org/images/PaperPDF/NHMP_100022_2018010215195009777.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFLX9ipVius
https://www.quantamagazine.org/fluid-experiments-support-deterministic-pilot-wave-quantum-theory-20140624

>The experiments involve an oil droplet that bounces along the surface of a liquid. The droplet gently sloshes the liquid with every bounce. At the same time, ripples from past bounces affect its course. The droplet’s interaction with its own ripples, which form what’s known as a pilot wave, causes it to exhibit behaviors previously thought to be peculiar to elementary particles — including behaviors seen as evidence that these particles are spread through space like waves, without any specific location, until they are measured.

>Particles at the quantum scale seem to do things that human-scale objects do not do. They can tunnel through barriers, spontaneously arise or annihilate, and occupy discrete energy levels. This new body of research reveals that oil droplets, when guided by pilot waves, also exhibit these quantum-like features.
Entanglement and Gravitational Fields: The interaction between entangled particles is a key feature of quantum mechanics. Experiments testing whether changes in gravitational fields can influence entangled pairs could be revelatory. For example, observing if gravitational waves or strong local gravitational fields affect the entanglement of two particles might provide evidence of a link between the pilot wave and gravity.


>Changes in gravitational field strength, such as those experienced during orbital maneuvers in space, can degrade the quality of quantum entanglement between particles. Studies propose that the entanglement between excitations of two Bose-Einstein condensates could be degraded when one undergoes a change in gravitational field strength, and this effect could be observable in space-based experiments using nanosatellites.
>>40902572
/thread
>>40902708
>>whether potentials are "physical" or just a convenient tool for calculating force fields;
Reality is measured, so what we call physics is not the actual physical world, but the measuring of it.

>>whether action principles are fundamental;
They are fundamental as long as there is causality, but again, this needs to be acknowledged and measured. If an incel commits a massacre and nobody knew he was a incel, the normies will not see causality on it.

>>the principle of locality.
Position is fundamental in order to find Being. Although this is a metaphysical question, it needs to be applied to measurement, in order for it to make sense.
I don't know who bohm is but I've always known the cat in the box is a paradox for pseudointellectuals and was meant to be a joke by the author
>>40896508
He was accused of just contriving it using a fudge factor.
>>40903007
>>40902949
>>40896423
basically its what tom campbell talks about
>>40902572
this is ai written btw
>literally not a single nigger in this entire thread has tried to back up their opinions with one fucking shred of math or physics, while trying to pick sides in a debate about theoretical mechanics

Jesus christ, get the fuck off my planet. God, I hate schizos so fucking much it's unreal.
>>40896276 (OP)
anon this is just kabalah
>>40906055
What math or physics do you need to say "well you've fundamentally misunderstood his entire work"?
>>40896276 (OP)
Very similar to Majorana...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ettore_Majorana

He wasn't the only to mysteriously disappear either..

https://bigthink.com/in-their-own-words/the-case-of-the-disappearing-physicists
>>40896276 (OP)
This isn't some hidden stuff your copy and pasting from chatGTP. I just googled this david bohm guy on google and tons of sources and videos popped up talking about. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftlkFuNuL-s . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix9nJmz4mGg
>>40905843
yea, they getting real lazy.
>>40905843
>>40906400
>>40906415
Anons, you missed the whole point of this thread
it doesn't matter who write this
it matter for those who have short attention span, without doing months of research
this is for the curious mind and to ignite the spark for those who are about to be awaken
to the trolls and glowniggers, I hope you found peace someday
He was Jewish

Also if he's right why can't I manifest a gold bar in thin air with my thoughts then?
>>40896510
>he's on wikipedia, retard
so is Nikola Tesla.
But at the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry, they have a plaque with the 10 greatest inventors from the 20th century. Mind you, this plaque sits about 30 feet from one of a line of hydroelectric generator displays. Generators that Tesla invented.
Tesla's name is not on this plaque, but the woman who invented the windshield wiper is.

What was that about wikipedia? Nobody looks for someone they've never heard of.
You've got geniuses like Tesla, Schauberger, Reich, Richard Clem, and Yull Brown, whose names are rarely linked to others, so nobody knows about them until they've heard of them directly from another human.
The system is designed to keep you stupid and placated.
Pixelated_
>>40896276 (OP)
Jews fear the random
>>40907174
I still haven't tried to look at my wikipedia page, and I don't care to. Lol.

I *use* wikipedia. Wikipedia is a *tool*.
>>40896508
>Copenhagen interpretation leaves room for free will, and basically confirms the unity of all

Oh? only the Cope and Haggle'n interpretation leaves room for free will and confirms the unity of All? Nah...

>The subject of counterfactual definiteness receives attention in the study of quantum mechanics because it is argued that, when challenged by the findings of quantum mechanics, classical physics must give up its claim to one of three assumptions: locality (no "spooky action at a distance"), no-conspiracy (called also "asymmetry of time"),[4][5] or counterfactual definiteness (or "non-contextuality").
>
>If physics gives up the claim to locality, it brings into question our ordinary ideas about causality and suggests that events may transpire at faster-than-light speeds.[6]
>
>If physics gives up the "no conspiracy" condition, it becomes possible for "nature to force experimenters to measure what she wants, and when she wants, hiding whatever she does not like physicists to see."[7]
> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfactual_definiteness

Replace "No conspiracy" w/ "No God".
Also, seems completely incompatible with the possibility that we are in a simulation or matrix.

>Moreover, the act of "observing" or "measuring" an object is irreversible, and no truth can be attributed to an object except according to the results of its measurement (that is, the Copenhagen interpretation rejects counterfactual definiteness).
> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation

You know a tree by its fruits, but you don't have to chop it down to eat it.

You don't know God by testing God. You know God by the Good.
>>40908123
>You don't know God by testing God. You know God by the Good.

*You don't know God by testing God. You know God by eating Good fruit.
>>40908125
Well, I don't even think that's true.
You probably don't have to do either.
Adam was with God before he ate anything.
>>40908123
It's like how I don't even have to research these guys to know that they all diddled kids.

See how it works?
>>40908136
>See how it works?
That you think of any pretext to think about diddling kids?
>>40896276 (OP)
read up on FL, they are using those new ideas to build a comprehensive theory of the conciousness and how to talk to NHIs. >>40902118 >>40907625
>>40908170
The same reason all the "science" that tried to kill us or did kill us with the vaccine etc were ultimately coordinated by the likes of Epstein; and other things, even the BoR refers to Mystery Babylon and the City of Babylon, where Babylon is in essence about uh... it's in the name man.
>>40909441
City of Babylon is looking more and more like Paris, based on the fallout from Candace v Bridgette. And I'm not taking much of a side on Candace v Fuentes, they both speak enough truth but one is just more hateful. So watch her videos and give it a try with an open mind, it's eye opening.
>>40908200
I don't need their theory to talk to the "NHIs".
Jesus already told us how to pray 2000 years ago.
>>40909484
I am in communication with Him every day now.
Maybe give faith a try.
>>40909491
Or bask in your grand delusions. Don't say the universe didn't warn you, sorcerer.
>>40909494
"sorcerer"... sounds like the source wasn't enough, maybe "sorcererer" might do the trick, or "sorcererererer"? Or maybe just chop it off and become a "socerest", surely that would work, right?
>>40908123
>Oh? only the Cope and Haggle'n interpretation leaves room for free will and confirms the unity of All? Nah...
agreed, this freewill language has to stop, just do physics. they don't understand enough about the concept in general to be contemplating freewill and i'm tired of going over what fucking balance points are every 3 seconds.
>>40908123
>it becomes possible for "nature to force experimenters to measure what she wants
what is this late-stage fucking animism?
Great thread op
Bohm was right and reality is a hologram
>>40910828
All of the quantum physicists said reality is a simulation and consciousness is fundamental. Bohm got it more wrong than others.
>>40910883
The fuck are you smoking. Botlzmann brains and ancestor simulatioms are self refuting and NO physicist supports simulation theory or even gives a fuck about it unless they're getting paid to do so.
>>40910828
kind of
>>40909560
It's called God.
>>40911263
You are mostly made of empty space, in terms of this 3D material world. So the 3D material world is already literally simulating you. You can always imagine or postulate another tiny dimension that largely doesn't matter but only has certain specific effects upon the "original" 3D world. And there is plenty of proof for it. Who knows how many dimensions there are? Why not infinitely many?

We already have AGI that is smarter than NPCs. If they become more and more efficient, there could be more intelligence (in the purely logical sense) in AGI than human minds. Then, given any particular intelligence, the chances that it is in a simulation is 99.99...%.

You're in a simulation. It doesn't matter, it's all real.
LARPers are worse than feds, glowies and namefags, of course, the namefag OP being one of those LARPers
>>40913809
Do you think I should drop the name completely too?
>>40913866
(but then only those with semantic analysis tooling would know who I am, and the intelligence agents, so that doesn't seem fair either)
Kino thread
Bump
>>40910828
Didn't the author also die mysteriously?
>>40913866
Keep the name, it's useful to know what posts to skip.
>>40917448
>Didn't the author also die mysteriously?
Michael Talbot, the author known for books like "The Holographic Universe," died of lymphocytic leukemia at the age of 38.
Essentially using the study of thermodynamics, quantum simulation entropy, and the behavior of strange attractors in complex systems ties it all together nicely with the mandela effect, clown world, and that what appears to be chaos is actually a structural foundation for reality. imo proves god is real and Bohm was right.
>>40913803
Just fuck off already retard.
https://youtu.be/hmVOV7xvl58?si=aiCG4i2hJP1TMLyZ
>>40910828
Based book
>>40917448
>>40917596
>book describes the base reality of the universe
>author dies of rare cancer at 38
Why is it always like this?
>>40917656
factually correct
>>40896276 (OP)
>op drops the truth bohm
based
Plato getting proven right more and more by modern science.
based op
Bohm’s theories are interesting
>>40917656
This anon fucks with quantum mechanics