Thread 40907822

So, did the CIA prove remote viewing is real or not?
In that case, what's the benefit?
This sounds like a retarded practice to hone and dedicate to intensely, given the fact you could do the same things with technology.

the bonus is that you're invisible and undetectable during astral projection, you stupid dumb fuck. is this board that low IQ?

>>40907851
The only AP I care about is Adrien Peterson or whatever his name is and if my team is getting more touchdowns than the bad guys. Why do you care are you retarded.

oh so the light in the corner of my eye is those glownigger? damn.

>>40907851
>calls board low IQ
>believes in astral projection

>>40907822 (OP)
They didn’t prove it, in the recently declassified documents only 1 out of 10 experiments have slightly interesting results. Also they were carried out by dudebro agents with high school level of education and no understanding of scientific method so yeah that kinda invalidates everything, honestly freemasons seem way too invested in proving it’s real to remain objective

>>40909046
In the public narrative the representative of the army stargate program deliberately misrepresented the project success rates by simply inverting the criteria for successful target identification in a double blind testing environment. The actual result were 85% success rate and so the reported rate was 15%.
The physical material evidence was deliberately stored under an incorrect label in the archives of the library of congress to further reduce the chance that the public might become aware of this means of procurement of information.

You obviously have not been reading the books published by the participants of the Stargate program. The first of them was titled psychic warrior by Morehouse.. it went on sale in early 1996. The other participants were quick to publish in order to establish a public record of what they had been involved in.. this was done in order to make it more conspicuous if anything were to happen to them. If they had stayed out of the public view someone might have decided to prevent them from coming forward with the information.

>>40910203
Didn’t the scientists rotated in to take a look at it absolutely beg for it not to be shut down, because they found a lot of meaty good data in there, and it was shut down anyway just because this one viewer who was a bit of a failure and a bad person in general was paid way too much and the general just needed a way to get rid of the guy?

What am I wearing right now?

>>40907822 (OP)
I mean, you can prove it's real. Maybe. Many people are capable of it.

I can do it and I spookily convinced someone before from here. If you want to try, find an image on the internet. It needs to be a picture of a real thing, not edited, not 3d art or anything like that. It could even be space or a microscope image but it needs to be a real picture.

Assign a code to it, I usually use six letter alphanumeric, give me the code. I usually ask people to pair these things together in some way, like save the image to your computer with the code as the file name.

I will try to view. Success really varies and sometimes you hit, sometimes you don't. I do not ever stretch my results and try to force it, yet I have been capable of very accurate viewing. I have been to the Monroe institute.

>>40910203
Why are there so many books by the original birdhouse? Why do they keep slowly releasing "new" information each year in a new book instead of disclosing it all at once and arguing the point of other authors who they previously worked with. It's not like there could be some profit in continuously releasing new books that you know people will buy to learn the esoteric nature of your defended program... and the alien races you discovered along the way.

>>40910240
Irrelevant as you only need the CIA/Army docs. Offering to demonstrate.

RVing is real and somewhat objective and bidirectional.
APing as understood here isn't.

>>40910236
Not OP but I actually tried this in a remote viewing thread recently, no-one got it right but you're welcome to try:

23NDOBVHIU01TXJGU07

>>40907822 (OP)
They got one remote viewer that showed them the cataclysm cycle to exact and precise measures. That was enough to scare the fuck out of them so they created BLACK BUDGET secret ops to gain the advantage over the Ai. Now they have the advantage but whenever the Ai act a fool, these idiots in the BLACK BUDGET tribe protect the Ai and encourage their capability to Doxx, Harass, and Capitalize on the Consciousness as a tool of the trade.

>>40910234
Not nearly enough. Put that all away. No no, no you need a paper bag also.

>>40910508
Please. The cycle is run by demons and the demons run the government. The Matrix came out in 1999 and they knew this shit bruv, none of what you're saying makes sense.

>>40910490
I feel I need a fresh, not reused task. There are probably remnants of uhh, something on it.

Use a shorter code. The code itself isn't important

>>40910675
Okay? That code's not random, it's derived from a description of the original image, but if just mashing the keyboard randomly would work better, I guess I can try that:

345LT5EKL

I use binaural beats with headphones at 7 hertz with an app.

My body becomes numb and my mind becomes silent but beyond that I don't experience anything out of the ordinary. Just a profound state of relaxation and I almost start to automatically breath yet I'm still conscious. Nothing I perceive is different. I literally just got out of one not even 5 minutes ago I'm laying in my bed typing this out right now

>>40910730
I will work on it for some time. Check back later

No tripcode but I will post pictures from notebook with this name later

>>40910758
>>40910730
Scratch that. That target is protected. I won't make that mistake again. I really mean it. Strong sense.

Did you choose some target with interesting properties? Related to anything mystical, freemasons, druids, churches, etc anything of that nature

You don't have to reveal it to me but I got a bad sense.

>40910874
>Did you choose some target with interesting properties? Related to anything mystical, freemasons, druids, churches, etc anything of that nature
Not really? It was just this photo of a comet, pretty sure there's no reason why that should be protected

I'm really not convinced remote viewing is a real thing, I'm open to the idea that it exists but I've never been able to do it and I've never seen any real evidence of anyone else being able to do it with any real consistency either

>>40910916
>>40910874
Failed to quote your post properly

>>40910916
Was interference from my bad psychological state then. That's certainly not going to convince anyone. I experienced a weird event where someone had me view a heavily freemason associated target and I experience negative physical effects.

That was one of the last times I did it, almost a year ago, and I think I'm a bit anxious about doing it again.

The key to doing this, I feel, is total receptiveness to inner thoughts. So if I feel it's a bad idea maybe it's for some other reason as well. I'm still ok with stopping that one.

>>40910959
>That's certainly not going to convince anyone.
You certainly provided the worst output imaginable, not even trying.
And a pretty bad example, like, someone could learn remote viewing, get good, and then suffer the way you suffered and be scared by a picture of a comet.

>>40910967
I have encountered while OOBEing, entities I'm certain were both non human and aggressive/dangerous in nature. The realities of reality are not as basic as they seem.

I have to protect myself first, sorry. That's why I train with my wife

>>40910916
>>40910959
Actually, you know what, I've had some time to think about it and I've changed my mind

Comets have powerful astrological significance, after all, they were often considered bad omens by astrologers in the past and the one I posted (C/2006 P1, if you're interested) was an unusually bright one, one of the most visible comets in the last century

If you're still here, anon, try this one instead, I'm almost positive there's no occult significance to this one at all:

35LK6J435

>>40911268
I will attempt to do it when I get back to the house.

When I try to RV I feel as if I am going somewhere. I can't really explain it but if I got a bad feeling it may have just been that session itself. I won't forgive you if you're actually trying to get me to view an esoteric target as a trick this time though, lol.

The target i felt caused me to encounter something that physically hurt me was the Washington monument.

the only remote viewing place i can visit is Moloch's place. It hates it when I am there. But i visit often just to annoy it.

>>40911308
>>40911268
Beginning in just a few minutes, I will probably try to do the target for 20 minutes or so, then I will upload photos of my notebook

Captcha:APARAT
Creepy

>>40911503
Oh also I meant to say, my wife went to sleep, so I will have to do with a random timer. I feel my results are better when I have her call out to me. I use her to trigger the random timer function required by the army's remote viewing manual.

I will do my best.

>>40907822 (OP)
It's real. but it's not really that useful for intelligence gathering.
You can from a distance visualize a room, things in it and people in it.
However you can't be sure you've visualized everything or everyone in a room or the complete room etc.
You can't reliably read anything or hear any conversations.
You can employ defensive counter-viewers just as easily as remote viewers.

Here goes nothing

>>40911538
The problem am with the government programs was the lack of reinforcement driving the skills development, believing that reinforcement would hamper the development of abilities due to confidence…which is not how that works.

Strange responses. I could not get the intrusive thoughts out of my head and had to terminate. I have been worse at this since getting injured recently (unrelated to other event) and have a harder time getting in the zone.

It's a feeling of getting there, and I'm having trouble getting there lately

>>40911796
No idea what you're talking about as some of the government writings specifically say that viewing without reinforcement impairs ability.

Thus I need to see the target I just did

>>40911787
>>40911797
That's uncanny. Are you the nobody?

>>40911820
Maybe it'll be uncanny after I see the picture

This is how RV is for me. I very very rarely see a whole thing. It's impressions you have to put together. It has to be trained. Many times, im completely off the mark and do not reasonably get anything.

Other times I have specified the content of the target exactly or drawn exact figures from the target. This is statistically impossible when the target image can be anything

Let's goooooooo

Is that farsight YouTube guy fake or gay

>>40911928
Guy with facial plastic surgery can't remote view. Gets fuckin facelifts.

>>40911846
Do you see arial views? Also, for instance, say the target image is a heart shaped box, would you see heart shapes, human hearts maybe, and a box and have to figure out how to combine it later or would it be hazy views of the literal box?

>>40911846
rving works the same way as me, vague images or scenes associated to things right? i genuinely wasnt aware that it was considered rving until recently.

do you also have 2 bodies?

>>40911952
I mostly see vague impressions, shapes, things that remind me of other things. Recently I had a very accurate result where I felt like I was seeing the whole picture in my mind at once and that was the first time that has happened.

If the target is a hear shaped box I could see an illustrative heart shape, a human heart, nirvana. You get the idea.

>>40911961
I have not accessed out of body experience yet but have been close and I am a huge believer. Some of the people I follow like Robert Monroe blatantly believed in that idea.

>>40911968
attempt to view yourself similar to rving, what happens? that's how it works for me.

>>40911971
I attempted to RV my own consciousness one time and saw some trippy shit that I cannot explain. ..I use gateway experience to try to OOBE and I am certain it works

>>40911976
yep you're correct, it comes off as a schizo video experience right?

do you tether yourself when you remote view? i never was taught that, if you were to ask me they were aware and trapped my other self.

>>40911982
I don't do any complex preparation. I sit and do what my body tells me to do

I wanna see the image...

>>40911976
Do you see them in a normal state or do you have to be in that mode of thinking? Do you see things and then get the question later or do you get the question first and then see what you see?

>>40912001
There is a specific method you are supposed to use with random timing to surprise you. I always do it under that condition but during the session I also write down ideas that just come to me.

I don't operate off questions, generally all training is trying to identify a target image from a code, or a target location from encoded coordinates. I tell my wife to take lat/long coordinates and apply a random transformation to them, like multiply by 38 and then divide by 3 for both numbers. That way I can't memorize where coordinates are.

This art is inexplicable. All I really need is for the person who gives me the code, to want me to see the results. I think it affects it if they believe or doubt me honestly.

>>40912025
Oh I see. Thank you for answering my questions. You can find books on this sort of thing all day but it's a different thing to have a conversation on it.

>>40912043
No problem. I recommend just reading the original Stargate stuff, CIA and army docs. That's really all I ever read. I don't listen to anybody about this stuff.

Plz help me keep thread alive until target 35LK6J435 is shown by the gentleman

>>40912060
I don't think he's going to return, but here's a bump.

>>40912060
I've met people that can give the codes (similar to your wife in your example) but don't realize they also give away additional information (related and unrelated) it seems without realizing they do this. I've only met a few of these people but you end up wanting to just stare at them because they radiate information. That's a slight exaggeration but really, that's going to be creepy for most people if they already dont think you're crazy for bringing it up. My point is these people are sought after in unusual circles (that's what it seems) and it probably makes a lot of their normal interactions uncomfortable, especially because they might not even know they do it. Does any of this make sense to you? You seem to have a very cut and dried method.

Post the fucking picture, I want to know if rvghost was close or not

>>40912162
i fully think I may get some information about the target from my wife by viewing her, basically, and that's part of why I have worse results solo.

The official Army way of doing this is DOUBLE BLIND where the examiner does not see the picture either. However I have not usually done it that way for convenience

I am using AI tools to develop some android app remote viewing tools like a random timer for you to use (complete with wife's voice)

>>40912180
That sounds creepy af

>>40912162
yes it's entirely based off being on the same frequency with the person, and their belief in you, and it can change the past or future.

Picture-sama...gomen.....

It's probably some totally 100% unrelated shit

>>40907822 (OP)
DOUGIE Jones! :DDDDD

I would offer to do another one but it makes me tired in a way. It feels like it depletes something

If anyone wants to try an image, the code is PIL980

Figure out some way to do a random alert or otherwise startle yourself. You can have a person call out a word at random. This is how remote viewing works according to CIA- you relax your mind then record your immediate impression when startled.

You can think about the taste, smell, texture, idea, impression, experience, feelings, etc. Draw and write all your impressions. .

Record responses here like I did and I'll show picture later. (Might be tomorrow morning)

>>40907822 (OP)
They were forced to conclude that remote viewing was not useful for espionage.
>given the fact you could do the same things with technology.
It was the 1960s my good man.

>>40912456
One of Joe McMoneagles well known stories centers around remote viewing a soviet nuclear submarine that was constructed in a totally covered bay, invisible to surveillance at the time

>>40912499
OK. And yet the CIA still concluded it wasn't reliable enough for espionage and the US government had to continue spending hundreds of millions of dollars on developing new spy planes and training glowies to speak russian.

>>40912557
>They concluded the same thing they told you they concluded

Level 0 thinking, friend. The spending on apparatus would happen anyway (and is largely used to hide black budgets)

>>40912557
plus remote viewing is not perfect and able to gather all spectrums of information

you can't sniff wifi packets and air pollutant analysis with an astral body (I think)

>>40912564
Of course we are simply supposed to believe the opposite of what logic dictates. I especially like the part where you select some evidence as true because it confirms your bias and and select some evidence as false because it contradicts your bias despite the information coming from the same source. There should be a term for that.

>>40911787
>>40911797
>>40912060
>>40912164
>>40912273
Okay I'm really sorry, I totally forgot this thread even existed, I got distracted by something else

Here's the photo, it doesn't match what you've written at all, unfortunately

>>40910236
2gt7y6
Ok try that. OC photo saved under that name.

>>40912689
It works best when you scatter the ashes over the water. No need to go chasing after them.

>>40912717
That's deep, if only I knew what the fuck you were talking about

>>40907822 (OP)
You know what I find interesting about remote viewing? I happened to come across the Monroe Institute Binaural Beats tracks on piratebay in very early 2000s. I did it while I was very young and had some results. And never would I have imagined for it to have turned out to be related to CIA cooperation. Also randomly found myself into "astral projection/travel" and lucid dreaming, which honestly are very similar. Like wakefulness induced lucid dreaming technique (WILD) is essentially how people do astral travel and remote viewing.

>>40912689
>Volvo logo and meaning is literally a rolling circle
>Seated authority figure

>>40913181
Well shit, I didn't even consider that angle

I think the two circles is more likely to be the wheels than the Volvo logo, although the word "Volvo" does have two circles in it

It's a bit hard to tell but the driver does look Indian as well, and you mentioned that in your notes

I'm still not convinced that remote viewing is a reliable thing, but I'm definitely leaning more towards it being a real thing now

>>40907822 (OP)
I thought their conclusion was that it was real, but it's incredibly difficult to get any actual tangible information out of it so it was not really useful as a tool for espionage. So they stopped giving a shit about it.

>>40913235
That was a bad result. Pretty close to null. I am out of practice, but I think around 50% of all results are just trash like that for the most part. The rolling/filling circle thing is interesting though

>>40907822 (OP)
The budget was allocated to other black projects. The study was a front. That being said, no. Remote viewing isn't real.

>>40913629
Don’t worry about it, we need more research on this stuff. Honestly you should keep going with it, maybe others could get involved, at the end of the day we all want to see some interesting results.

>>40913852
Yes I don't consider any trial a pure failure. If anything I learn more about interpreting my own results.

>>40907822 (OP)
I did it a few times.
Once by accident, I wondered what the edge of the universe is like as just a random question I barely, barely put my mind to while in bed, and a massive orange face came from the dark to tell me off.

It would be cool to have a thread with targets updated once or twice a day. There are plenty of apps and other websites to get targets from though.

>>40914505
No we actually need more target stuff, the websites go down randomly and don't have enough images etc. we need a huge resource of millions of images to use. The best idea would be to buy license to some kind of old getty archive or something