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Anonymous No.40912501 >>40912513 >>40912553 >>40912608 >>40913520
Christianity
If Jesus died for my sins, but I follow the modern law, then what did Christ die for?
Anonymous No.40912513 >>40912523 >>40913162 >>40913903
>>40912501 (OP)
He still died for your sins irrespective of what you choose to believe or follow.
Anonymous No.40912523 >>40912542 >>40912550 >>40912558 >>40914016
>>40912513
but knowledge of sin is through knowledge of the law. So I know what sin is through the law, yet I don't commit the sins (breaking the law). Following this logic, Christ's death is useless for me.
Anonymous No.40912542 >>40912546
>>40912523
That only works when you don't have access to the truth, not when you have it but flat out reject it like you're doing right now.

“Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.” (John 9:41)
Anonymous No.40912546
>>40912542
You are a devil and are using scripture to spread fear across the internet like your brothers of darkness. You have no basis in engaging in scriptural warfare and it is of the devil whom are your brothers.
Anonymous No.40912550 >>40912556
>>40912523
Yes, if you completely change the crucification and what the word and concept of sin means then your point is valid.
Nobody's going to beg you to accept Jesus. You feel free to do whatever
Anonymous No.40912553 >>40912578
>>40912501 (OP)
The Constitution of the United States was one of the greatest attempts in all of history to point the entire world at the thing Jesus was also pointing at.
Anonymous No.40912554
It was a flex so he could die for three days on a cross and come back to life.
Making his life story like Mithras and a bunch of other sun God's.
Since the historicity of Jesus isn't up for debate, yes, he really did get crucified to be like the Sun on December 22nd of every year.
As for whether or not he came back back on the 25th that's the part people argue about.
But yeah, it was so the desert cult of like 100 people would become 33% of the earth's population today.
Marketing lol
Anonymous No.40912556
>>40912550
Galatians 2:21
Anonymous No.40912558 >>40912565 >>40912574
>>40912523
Since when is the laq of man congruous with the law of God?
Correlational category error.
Anonymous No.40912565
>>40912558
The law of God has been destroyed through the entire New Testament. We live in the same world where the laws are man made.
Anonymous No.40912574
>>40912558
Nah. Law is corruptible.
Anonymous No.40912578 >>40913071
>>40912553
>created by Freemason
>protololbert shit
Nigger no lol. The whole America is gods nation shit is boomerslop. Not saying everything they did is bad, 2A is based and im glad we won’t get arrested for saying we don’t want to be raped by immigrants sure but it wasn’t close to what you’re saying.
America was if anything the first stage in the secularization of the West, hyper-individualism and the current state we are in today. Next being the French revolution.
Anonymous No.40912608 >>40912618
>>40912501 (OP)
What’s your point? These are two completely different things. American law is just secular law lol. Do you mean what’s the point of believing in Jesus if you can’t break the law or something?
Anonymous No.40912618 >>40912647
>>40912608
Kind of? Not everyone admits to being a sinner. What I'm saying is, if one doesn't admit they are a sinner, then Christ's death is useless isn't it? Doesn't that make the entirety of human population a sinner, regardless of if you follow or break the law?
Anonymous No.40912647
>>40912618
>if one doesn't admit they are a sinner, then Christ's death is useless isn't it?.

Different anon here, but yes. Christ died for sinners. You reject the reality of your sinful nature, you reject the cross.

“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
Anonymous No.40913071 >>40913520
>>40912578
>Doesn't know the history of the Freemasons
>Doesn't know that under Franklin they were so based and morally righteous they caused the Old Lodges to go to war with the New World
>Can't recognize that the Founders went into the Temple and flipped the money-lenders tables.
Anonymous No.40913162 >>40913451
>>40912513
>died for sins that haven't happened yet.

Vague enough to get dumb fucks to buy in. That's like calling the cops on someone for any potential crime they may commit at some point.
Anonymous No.40913451 >>40913469
>>40913162
No, its the framing of the choice he made.
Jesus actively chose to die at the hands of inferior things who mocked and tortured him because he decided that love is a higher principle than law. He set that perfect example so even you would have a chance in the future to encounter it and learn.
Anonymous No.40913469 >>40913482
>>40913451
No he didn’t, that’s why he says “Why have you forsaken me, God?”
In his last living moments, he believes that God has abandoned him, it wasn’t part of his plan.
He died feeling betrayed by his own father.
And you celebrate it.
Disgusting.
Anonymous No.40913482
>>40913469
That's just the mortal Jesus upset that the divine Christ has left him and ascended to heaven.
Anonymous No.40913486
Jesus was YHWH in the flesh
He died to create a new covenant
Blood for blood
Not only your sins
But the sins He commanded men to do
Exodus; and the Lord turned from His thoughts to do evil
You have to die to be reborn
The Bride is the Womb of Death
Jesus opened the Womb so all can pass through her and be reborn
The Bride is a Harlot and a Whore because all sleep with her
Anonymous No.40913520 >>40913546 >>40913970
>>40912501 (OP)
Jesus died for the sins of the babylonian jews that were doing ritual blood sacrifice. His audience were the jews, not gentiles or pagans. He ordered the jews to return to the spoken law, and to turn from the written law that had developed during babylonian captivity.

The jews hated this, and petitioned to have him killed, because they were forbidden to perform executions under Roman law. They set him up and staged it, as was the tradition at that time, making the poor criminal a king for a few days, then blood sacrifice.

The bible as a whole is trash. Sometimes entertaining, sometimes insightful, but mostly trash. The main character gets four short books before being overshadowed by a mass murderer.

Jews wrote the bible for the Greeks, and anyone that reads it with honesty will point out endless contradictions. This is where the saying "it's all greek to me" originated, before becoming a masonic slogan.

>>40913071
freemasons are not free, they're not masons, but they are brothers to the jew. they traffic and rape kids. a brotherhood of secrets.
Anonymous No.40913546 >>40913558
>>40913520
>Jesus died for the sins of the babylonian jews
yes but also
>His audience were the jews
mixed audience and this is explained
>He ordered the jews to return to the spoken law
yes for esoteric reasons
>petitioned to have him killed
it was actually a reenactment of leviticus yom kippur ritual
>anyone that reads it with honesty will point out endless contradictions
and anyone who goes deeper than a surface read will find closure to the contradictions which are actually very few

overall anon you got a catholic's version of a bible reading and thought it was trash and applied it across the spectrum lol
Anonymous No.40913558
>>40913546
"Do you get paid to post here?"
Anonymous No.40913903
>>40912513
cool so its just your standard 'create jewish problem, provide jewish solution' formula and we can simply ignore it and just point and laugh at everybody who was stupid enough to fall for it
Anonymous No.40913970
>>40913520
>jews wrote the bible for greeks
*greek speaking jews
they wrote the new testament for roman elites, who considered greek the more cultured language of the elite, whereas latin was thought to be more plebian.

the whole christian psyop never was directed at the plebs, which is what people are led to believe by church historians. it was aimed at elites. it was shoehorned by elites.

heres a great video showing christianity's progress. it follows a very predictable formula: target the kings, rulers, elites, aristocracy, nobles, and then have them shoehorn it and force it on everybody else

when christian historians say in the first century there was only a few thousand christians, and by the third century there were 6 million, theyre attempting to deceive by providing the illusion that this was some grassroots thing and by its sheer theological merits people slowly came around and were convinced of its truth and all became christians of their own accord. the reality is there were a few thousand christians, to overnight a jewish sponsored king legally requiring everyone had to be a christian so now suddenly theres '6 million christians', when the reality is people really never gave a shit and merely tolerated it

that was how christianity spread (note: not including the kidnapping of children in order to brainwash them and to use as weapons to undermine their native culture like they did with the native americans). thats why when they were finally given access to the books, some 1500 years later, and could finally read the so-called 'perfect word of god' it got ridiculed and all the intellectuals started dipping out and said 'we went from socrates to this bullshit lmao wtf' and deism arose.

once byzantium fell, and the great jewish-christian intellectual firewall collapsed and europeans regained access to their own literature again it was only a matter time
https://youtu.be/6xbvCJcjzFY
Anonymous No.40914016
>>40912523
Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. So they show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts either accusing or defending them on the day when God will judge men’s secrets through Christ Jesus, as proclaimed by my gospel.
Romans 2:14-16