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Anonymous No.40916874 >>40916888 >>40916892
Made in the image of God vs protohumans
What does it mean to be made in the image of God, how do you know if someone is made in God's image and why does it matter if we are made in his image or not?
Made in the image of God is basically only ever mentioned once in the Bible (the other four times are just referencing that one time) and it doesn't tell me much about what made in God's image means.
Throughout the Bible we see God and Jesus treat humans and non human animals very differently such as telling humans which kinds of animals they may or may not slaughter to eat them and how to slaughter them or Jesus killing lots of pigs seemingly unnecessarily. But we don't see God or Jesus treating humans this way. What is the morally relevant difference between a human and an animal? How is one made in God's image but not the other?
Anonymous No.40916888 >>40916892
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Are proto humans made in God's image? Why or why not? If you say ability to reason, appreciate beauty, have free will, etc etc makes an individual made in the image of God I'd say that being able to reason, appreciate beauty, have free will etc etc aren't binary they're a spectrum. There were almost certainly proto humans who had some ability to reason, some free will, some appreciation of beauty etc etc but not as much as modern homo sapiens. But how can an individual be partially made in God's image? Seems impossible. This is why I don't think humans are super special and made in God's image (I guess I could believe both humans and non human animals are made in God's image but I don't see how I could believe only humans are made in God's image).
For Christianity to draw such a line in-between humans and non human animals on only the basis of "made in the image of God" without being able to define it seems like a huge issue with Christianity. Because Christians will not be okay with turning baby humans or adult humans who are severely permanently mentally handicapped and incapable of reason into sandwiches but are okay with turning pigs cows etc into sandwiches, but what's the morally relevant difference? It can't be ability to reason because they still want to grant rights to humans who can't reason. It can't be just "being human" because what is a human? When did proto humans stop being non human animals not deserving of moral consideration and start being humans deserving of moral consideration? Did one proto human woman just one day give birth to a "real" human? This seems insanely arbitrary.
For me as an agnostic this is incredibly easy but I don't see how a biblically inerrant Christian can resolve this apparent contradiction, if it's not a contradiction at the very least I think it probabilistically makes Christianity much less likely to be true.

Would it have been moral for adam/the first human "made in the image of god" to kill his parents?
Anonymous No.40916892
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What's ironic is I'm watching videos now of Christian apologists and one is making the same point and then arguing evolution is incompatible with Christianity and must be false. Unfortunately I think the evidence that evolution is true is overwhelming. I first heard this same exact types of arguments from atheists. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sqFbQgVrg7s
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9wjVLKy8Xk

Jimbob makes a lot of very good points and redeemed zoomer is having a hard time making Christianity and evolution fit together.
For example he had to bite the bullet and agree it would be moral for Adam to kill his parents because they were "beasts"

I wish Christianity were true because I fear death and have existential dread.

The evidence of evolution seems so strong. Is there any good evidence or arguments evolution isn't true?

>Why is a bubble spherical? Because that is the most efficient shape, in balance with its forces.

>The being created to experience gnosis is that of a God, we are based on that.

But why can't proto humans experience this? Again "human" is more of a spectrum not binary