Thread 40939197

Consciousness arises from matter, so it is impermanent and subject to change.

However, it is not destroyed, but transformed. When you die it is like a candle that lights another one, it is a different flame, but it has originated from the previous one.

>>40939197 (OP)
Matter arises from consciousness and can't exist without one observing it, without one it's just a bunch of probabilities superimposed on themselves.
You have it backwards.

>>40939197 (OP)
*matter is a result of consciousness

>>40939197 (OP)
Reincarnation and afterlives are not real. The body is a vessel for consciousness and once the body is gone so is the consciousness associated with it, FOREVER. Nobody will judge you and you aren't going anywhere after, you simply cease to exist. They can create unlimited humans on the other hand so life will never stop existing here on earth. The creation is eternal and the creator can experience himself eternally, you are not on the other hand.

>>40939249

No, we/I probably just wake up from the simulation or it just resets

>>40939197 (OP)
god is energy

>>40939249
>doesn't explain the human unconscious mind
>or dreams which have sensory inputs without sensory organs being used
Thus, probably wrong and gay.

>>40939414
Also wrong, energy arises from consciousness.

>>40939197 (OP)
>Consciousness arises from matter
this is the premise. Now, you have to make the case for it, and explain exactly how it happens. Otherwise, you are begging the question.

>>40939492
Your body needs to rest but your brain operates for brief periods of time during that time, so what if it is done unconsciously?

>>40939570
Your brain simulates all five senses while you're sleeping and not using any of them. That indicates all five senses can be stimulated without the body allowing for the possibility of an afterlife or existence beyond the body.

>>40939621
That's not proving anything unless you desperately want to believe in something in which case you don't need any proofs at all. The nervous system is still connected to your brain so it doesn't need simulate anything, but even it were it doesn't matter because that's not proving anything.

>>40939249
>body is a vessel for consciousness
implying the body is just a container for something that exists apriori

>They can create unlimited humans
who's they?

>The creation is eternal and the creator can experience himself eternally, you are not on the other hand.

if i'm part of an eternal creation then i'm part of an eternal creator, therefore i'm eternal and the body is a temporary meatsuit

>>40939743

Why are you so sure death is the end? That we are not souls?

>>40939621
also precognitive dreams that can reach many years through time

>>40939197 (OP)
OP is a BEN poster.

>>40939753
It's an entity that is experiencing itself eternally at your expense, you are not eternal on the other hand.
Imagine you are this guy and after you die you wake up somewhere else, you'd be completely traumatized from the agony and pain, no creator is that merciless. Death is mercy and it's forever thankfully, and you should be very grateful for that. How retarded do you have to be to think that after you die you jump right back in and get to do it all over again as if it was some rollercoaster ride, that's ridiculous.

>>40939209
This.

Death is filling rather than emptying, you are filled with the multiverse.

>>40939197 (OP)
Wrong. Matter arises from consciousness, not the other way around.

>>40939249
What if quantum immortality is real and we just replace our bodies when we die?
Even if you die of old age, you might end up in a plane where humans lives longer, and all of a sudden you are young again.
Non-existence can only a possibility. Once it happens, it becomes actuality, thus existing. Which prompts existence to flow back from possibility.

>>40939197 (OP)
Travel through bardo arrive at kur, lethe to a new incarnation.