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Anonymous No.40940640 >>40940652 >>40940654 >>40940669 >>40940979 >>40941154 >>40941751 >>40941798 >>40942647 >>40945606 >>40948383 >>40949618 >>40951366 >>40955007 >>40958226 >>40964344 >>40966092 >>40967246
When did you realize this was a larp?
Anonymous No.40940652
>>40940640 (OP)
Pretty nice graphic design desu, imagine fabricating that in the 1880s
Anonymous No.40940654
>>40940640 (OP)
>everything I dont like or I dont understand is a larp
Anonymous No.40940658 >>40955067
Since the first moment i knew about them
Anonymous No.40940669 >>40941057 >>40945398 >>40951873 >>40964899 >>40964936 >>40965835 >>40967453
>>40940640 (OP)
the entire occult is a larp, the only thing that really exists is the djinn from islam, everything else is larp
Anonymous No.40940979 >>40941101
>>40940640 (OP)
Have you ever tried doing any of it? Even the basic stuff?
Anonymous No.40941057 >>40941483
>>40940669
Good and thick pressupositional frame you got there lad.
Anonymous No.40941101 >>40941117
>>40940979
I haven't
Anonymous No.40941117
>>40941101
Then don’t talk about things you have zero knowledge on
Anonymous No.40941154 >>40941263 >>40941433
>>40940640 (OP)
Garrote No.40941203 >>40941228 >>40941454 >>40943770
Why eagle instead of scorpio?
How mysterious...
Anonymous No.40941228 >>40941236
>>40941203
Scorpio is incredibly dangerous to work with since it’s both Mars and Pluto , eagle is its highest most refined form
Anonymous No.40941236
>>40941228
Well, Pluto wasn’t known about at the time, but you know the extremely corrosive energies are there
Anonymous No.40941245 >>40941425 >>40941862
Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. Practice the LBRP and prayer meditations daily and if you don't notice any results, then I guess it just sucks to be you.
Anonymous No.40941263 >>40943775 >>40956564
>>40941154
>Make excellent political compass meme
>ruins it by throwing on piss for no reason
Anonymous No.40941425 >>40941447 >>40941613 >>40951789
>>40941245
>Just summon demons goy
Anonymous No.40941433 >>40943475
>>40941154
Anyone got the image in the middle?
Anonymous No.40941447 >>40941487
>>40941425
Proculi, proculi este profani
I was about give an earnest response, but why the fuck would I want a xenophobe practicing magic? Maybe the LBRP and prayers would make you a better person if you did it daily, but you have to want to be a better person
Anonymous No.40941454 >>40943770
>>40941203

The ancients used the eagle as the symbol for scorpio. Anytime you see an eagle in an astrological diagram that’s usually what it means.
Anonymous No.40941483 >>40941498 >>40941728 >>40941874
>>40941057

he's right. Agrippa is wrong he was an armchair systematizer, thats why his shit barely works. Eliphas was an armchair systematizer thats why his shit barely works, so was Mathers. Crowley was working with a bunch of this confused bullshit which is why his shit turns out garbage occultists its because he was working off garbage material and didnt know any better. Blavatsky was just a straight up liar/charlatan/snake oil salesman. So now you see that nearly everything the victorians did was a larp and even up to them (with the exception of Dee and Kelly who actually did the work and figured out how to get in touch with real shit (by FIXING agrippa). Most "occultists" dont really do the work they just copy what comes out of a book or system and don't notice the flaws, mistakes and so they get stuck "magicking" $500 at a time and a little bit of emotional stability and call it magic.

the *occult*/occultism is a dumpster fire of misinformation, disinformation, lies, and just utter laziness. real magic exists in the older material but its scattered amongst many traditions and can only be reassembled with guidance from the spirits and gods. its pieces are strewn about mysticism, religions, philosophy, and the mideval/classical grimoires. (another anon claimed islamic djinn and alot of the untainted magic material is in the medeval caliphate).

occultists are working with ass backwards broken material and dont have the same dedication to the truth and reality to uncover it. you have to be truly humble to forsake your sunk -cost fallacy of operating off Golden Dawn, Agrippa, OTO etc etc for so long and that is a *rare* type of humility most people do not possess. I wasted 7 years on the golden dawn before i took the step to abandon all the nonsense, learn some ancient languages, and find the real stuff. Most people will never do it though. Theyre perfectly comfortable with their mediocrity
Anonymous No.40941487 >>40942139
>>40941447
Please do give an earnest response and I might actually practice the lbrp.
Anonymous No.40941498 >>40941551
>>40941483
Kind sir can you at least give me a hint to what you mean by the real stuff?
Anonymous No.40941551 >>40941587 >>40941702 >>40942641 >>40943776 >>40945385 >>40945594 >>40964297
>>40941498

Zosimos of Panopolis, Ibn Umayil, Iamblichus, Artephius, Al-Buni, Ibn Wussayid, Abraham Abulafia, Gikatilla, The Brethren of Purity (Epistles on Mathematics, Science, and Magic), Ibn Al Kindi, Picatrix (and its lesser known sister the Rutbat al-Hakim), Conversation In the House of Life, Gnza Raba, Kore Kosmou, Corpus Hermeticum, The Enneads, Timaeus, The Chaldean Oracles, Sepher Yetzirah, Book of the Nine Judges, Kitāb al-Siyāsa fī tadbīr al-riʾāsa, Sepher Yetzriah, Shi-ur Qomah

Amongst this material is the keys to gamebreaking magic. Its the difference between a mediocre occultist and a real wizard. Last year I quit my job, made myself rich, and spend my time traveling once I learned how to perform the real stuff.
Anonymous No.40941587 >>40941647
>>40941551
That seems like mostly Arabic with a little bit of Hebrew. I guess real magic takes years of study but the difference between the golden dawn style stuff is you won't suddenly realize you wasted years. I have time to slowly read through all that while at work but learning Arabic or Hebrew is gonna suck. Thank you
Anonymous No.40941613
>>40941425
Or don't. not my problem
Anonymous No.40941647 >>40947042
>>40941587

Egyptian, Greek, Hebrew, and Arabic texts. More ancient doesn't mean more pure but there were certain things that happened in Europe that fractured and obfuscated the material. If you do magic ask a spirit to teach you hebrew and arabic it'll only take you a year or two with the aid of magic. But you aren't going to find real magic in modern english, authors dumb down their language to sell books and the influence of the victorians has absolutely destroyed the systems occultists hold dear. Protip: find real actual wizards in history and then read the texts associated with them. Agrippa is not an actual wizard. Dee is. Why is this? Agrippa is famous for writing a book, Dee is famous for going on a magical ride.
Anonymous No.40941702
>>40941551

Quit your job, made yourself rich, travel the world. To me that is the real test of someone achieving something tangible. Most occultist today are just living in their mom’s basement eating Cheetos and lighting a black candle on a full moon to be edgy. Congratulations on your success.
Anonymous No.40941728
>>40941483
>Agrippa is wrong he was an armchair systematizer, thats why his shit barely works. Eliphas was an armchair systematizer thats why his shit barely works, so was Mathers. Crowley was working with a bunch of this confused bullshit which is why his shit turns out garbage occultists
Not to be all "works on my machine", but, works on my machine. It's pretty cool that you found success working with the ancient Persian/Arabian stuff though. You've gone farther than most indulgent pig westerners are willing to go in pursuit of their goals, and you deserve 100% of what you have gained
Anonymous No.40941751
>>40940640 (OP)
If you're not going to explain your perspective with logical reasoning your opinion is automatically invalid.
Anonymous No.40941798 >>40941903 >>40959148
>>40940640 (OP)
Most people never seem to realize that all ritual/religion/etc is a larp to oneself. One could go as far as saying this reality is a giant larp. That doesn't mean playing with these symbols isn't imparting change onto the preconscious for better or worse; reshaping belief. It's never about the shadow on the wall, but you can use the shadows on the wall to figure out where the light is coming from.
Anonymous No.40941862
>>40941245
Do anything everyday, it'll have an effect
Anonymous No.40941874
>>40941483
>(with the exception of Dee and Kelly who actually did the work and figured out how to get in touch with real shit (by FIXING agrippa).
You almost got to the peak of Mt. Larp. You were so close, little buddy.
Anonymous No.40941903
>>40941798
Only person here who get sit.
Anonymous No.40942139 >>40942329
>>40941487
It’s an adapted form of an old Hebrew prayer concerning the four archangels, original version:
In the name of God, the God of Israel
On my right is Michael, on my left is Gavriel
In front of me is Uriel, behind me Raphael
And all above, surrounding me, Shechinat-El.

But combined with the pentagrams and visualising techniques you are using them as gateways to the sephirot that surround the Samekh-Peh junction in the tree of life to invoke or banish the four elements that make up your existence, and to bring you closer to the influence of your higher self. Now these aspects are thought, will, emotions and material existence in correspondence with the elements of air, fire, water and earth. Also in correspondence with the four cardinal directions, the four fixed signs of the zodiac, the four heads of the Kerub, the four gospels etc. - essentially establishing you as the centre of your own universe. The six rayed star symbolises tiferet, which has attributions to Christ, Osiris, the Higher Self etc. as it is the central point between you and God.

So the banishing aspect gets rid of all the aspects of your life and you that aren’t in line with your Higher Self, while the invoking form brings in stuff that is in line with your higher self. If you do this everyday you can imagine the gradual, slow change that accumulates, which is better this way because a massive change is too overwhelming, but on an extremely basic level you are essentially getting rid of everything that is harmful and isn’t useful to you so you can have a more fulfilling life which is why you should also invoke during the morning
Anonymous No.40942329 >>40942346 >>40942372
>>40942139
>or banish the four elements that make up your existence
and there it is, this isn’t to ‘remove’ your lower vibration self
this is to make your material self open for demonic possession as you remove the elements restricting them from accessing you
also, ceremonial magic is fake and gay
you are the source, drawing sigils with your hand does nothing
Anonymous No.40942346 >>40945331
>>40942329
That why you invoke, as I told you, every morning after you wake up and why you should banish before you sleep. You invoke every morning as a prayer too, the original Golden Dawn instructed this

Yes, you do banish before a cerimonial ritual to make yourself specifically open to influences (because you want that during a ritual) and you should invoke after to close yourself off
Anonymous No.40942372 >>40942468
>>40942329

not that anon but its more about running a clinical ritual. you want only what you call on none of the extra shit you're carrying around. for example if you're normally a neurotic in your head depressive pussy you dont want that in the ritual so youre banishing the water element from influencing your perception of the rite. if you're hyper-sexual you want that earth element banished so you dont ask the spirit if you can fuck it. you dont need to do this but as you get more adept you begin to notice when influences from your mundane life are creating baggage and altering your perception of certain things, when you're in the middle of magical or mystical experience this can influence what you're interpreting.

and on top of this, demons cant get inside you if you have faith. they get in through fear. this is why lapsed christians always get the gnarliest possessions. because they were subconsciously programmed to think these things are all powerful and can fuck them up. initiates have faith because during their initiation they were brought to the otherside and are knowing of their relationship to God, His plan, and their immortal nature. they know this through direct experience. and so they can't be penetrated by anything they don't purposefully let in because they know through direct experience that they're more powerful than demons.
Anonymous No.40942380
One cannot give up that which one does not possess. Hence the number of dead magicians is legion; the birth of a mystic, rare.
Anonymous No.40942468
>>40942372
Thanks anon good post. I wish you positivity for the next 24 hours.
Anonymous No.40942641
>>40941551
Thanks for the rec’s. But getting rich and travelling is not paranormal, lol. Sounds very larpy.
Anonymous No.40942647
>>40940640 (OP)
The one Rosicrucian i talked to that knew his stuff was the author of this book. And said its an order only in the etheric sense, not a physical organization.
Anonymous No.40943475 >>40943605 >>40956575 >>40956582
>>40941433
Tranny Lucifer No.40943605
>>40943475
Did the order of the trapezoid ever actually do anything or was it just a meme order for Boyd Rice to be the founder of something.
Anonymous No.40943770
>>40941203
What>>40941454 said
The four creatures said to represent the four gospels are also the fixed signs of astrology. Taurus, leo, aquarius, scorpio
Anonymous No.40943775
>>40941263
You're wrong, Piss is essential and should be at the center.
Anonymous No.40943776 >>40945253 >>40945362 >>40945400
>>40941551
Describe the ritual you did to make you rich.
Anonymous No.40945253 >>40964948
>>40943776
he blew a jew
Anonymous No.40945331
>>40942346

LBRP softens life and your experiences. It's quite a passive state to be in at all times. Other sources make life seem more hellish but once you push through the difficulty you're rewarded better than what GD offers. In my humble experience, anyways. I makes the immediate seem more pleasant but you're missing out on a lot of opportunities if you can endure and push through difficulties that other sources of personal gnosis can provide.
Anonymous No.40945362 >>40964948
>>40943776
Do the work faggot
Anonymous No.40945385 >>40945557 >>40966670
>>40941551
essentially alawite books
Anonymous No.40945398
>>40940669
>the entire occult is a larp
...except the spells that work?
>>40945256
Anonymous No.40945400 >>40945560 >>40964948
>>40943776
You assume everyone wants to be rich and that's all that matters? Interesting.
Anonymous No.40945557
>>40945385
thought the same honestly
Anonymous No.40945560
>>40945400
Anonymous No.40945594
>>40941551
This guy knows his 3alawi batin
Anonymous No.40945606 >>40946969
>>40940640 (OP)
It's not entirely larp I was able to cast a spell with help of it, but I wont divulge more on it cause it's probably not good source
Anonymous No.40946969 >>40947350 >>40947357
>>40945606
you, a spell caster, is not a good source?
Anonymous No.40947042
>>40941647
>If you do magic ask a spirit to teach you hebrew and arabic it'll only take you a year or two with the aid of magic
What spirits can I ask for this, given that I supposedly need to speak these languages already to be able to access the texts?
Anonymous No.40947350 >>40947357
>>40946969
If it relies on the help of questionable spirits/entities (that probably help the magic happen), then it's better not get into that kind of stuff (since it's not a real world either, and this is probably the main goal of the world, to rob you of the only thing "real", your soul, for material/fake world gain). It'd be like playing slots at a casino without knowing what the currency being used in the casino is (probably your soul, karma or something)
Anonymous No.40947357
>>40946969
>>40947350
picrel is very much related
Anonymous No.40947370
I wish I had saved the meme quote from /pol/, but I could've sworn I saw (((some person))) literally saying on a meme quote, how (((they))) have people that are "score keepers", meaning they keep records of "good goy points" that some goyim have or something, and I believe it's somehow very much related to this. Maybe they can see if someone has "good ammount of points" and they then try recruit that person to do bad shit so to lose their credit rating or whatever, while also managing to benefit (((them))). What better way to corrupt someone, than go for the pure ones that have bigger wallet than hylics who already sold their own rights?
BlinkArc No.40947884 >>40947902
Whether you think it's LARP or not, it is a system that was constructed and one which was fed much human energy over many years. It is a construct that has provided many a magician with tools to control and manage the non-physical.

I might not be of this sect, but I am grateful for the work they did.
Anonymous No.40947902
>>40947884
their enochian tech is top tier
Anonymous No.40948383
>>40940640 (OP)
It's a larp by design. If it is nothing more than a larp to you. I believe it is nothing more than a larp.
Anonymous No.40949618 >>40950332 >>40956639
>>40940640 (OP)
Didn't Crowley find out the leader of the GD MacGregor Mathers who claimed to be in contact with these Secret Chiefs, lied?
Anonymous No.40950332
>>40949618
Did it ever occur to just ignore whatever Crowley says?
Anonymous No.40950564
Bump because it's just me and the free agents of suburbia. Because the CIA got bored haha.
Anonymous No.40950568
Symbols make me geometrically horny
Anonymous No.40951366
>>40940640 (OP)
what is the evidence it was a larp?
Anonymous No.40951789 >>40952120
>>40941425
it is a banishing ritual not a summoning ritual
Anonymous No.40951873
>>40940669
Sand niggers actually want us to believe in genies that their monotheistic religion canonised lmao
Anonymous No.40952120 >>40952199
>>40951789
doesn't banishing bring you to their attention though?
Anonymous No.40952199
>>40952120
no. the opposite.
Anonymous No.40954925 >>40954944 >>40954966
lurker here. I hear that you should have clear goals in mind when practicing magic. I feel drawn to do it, as I have towards Chan, Hermeticism, Sufism, and other 'mystical' teachings. however, i feel as though imposing my faulty self centered will on to reality is counter intuitive. I am an imperfect being, what right should I have to impose on God's plan?

my teacher has told me however that this is still a faulty value judgement, its still the ego at play.

what justifications do the magicians here use?
Anonymous No.40954944 >>40954956
>>40954925
I just keep the objective in mind and don't bother with the supposed metaphysics behind it all. I've tried some tantric rituals to material success, and I've done the same with procedures from grimoires. And yet, I am neither Hindu nor Christian. I'm simply a well-rehearsed monkey who can follow instructions and recite formulaic invocations and conjurations. I can only know what I can interact with directly. What goes on behind what is apparent is subject matter for philosophers and weed smokers to speculate.
Anonymous No.40954956 >>40954963
>>40954944
fair. do you have any texts you would recommend as a starting point for my practice?
Anonymous No.40954963 >>40954997
>>40954956
Well, what are you interested in practicing? It's a wide field.
Anonymous No.40954966 >>40955024
>>40954925
You are a part of God’s plan

But the answer is Do what thou wilt shalt be the whole of the law, love is the law love under will. Do that and no other shalt say nay, man has no right but to do his Will. In case you misinterpret these words: that’s why it’s geared towards finding your ‘True Will’ or Higher Purpose, so you can work within that
Anonymous No.40954997 >>40955044
>>40954963
Apologies, but thats a hard one to answer. In some sense im just looking for something to try at a basic level. Preferat clouded in some level of obscurity to make sure that im not influenced by popular culture about its effectiveness. Something I can test and see for myself.

any ritual I can do to communicate with spirits would be perfect, but I welcome any other recommendations.
Anonymous No.40955007 >>40961865 >>40965854
>>40940640 (OP)
When I learned the origins of Christianity
Anonymous No.40955024 >>40967420
>>40954966
How does one find his true will?
Anonymous No.40955044 >>40955056
>>40954997
I don't know about trying this at a basic level, but it will form a solid baseline for spirit conjuring. This one will take some study, preparation, material collection and attention to timing: Lucidarium Artis Nigromantice.
Anonymous No.40955056
>>40955044
Much appreciated. Thankyou.
Anonymous No.40955067
>>40940658
yes
Anonymous No.40955174
wish there was less newfags
Anonymous No.40956564
>>40941263
Anonymous No.40956575 >>40956582
>>40943475
>temple of set
>pro demiurge
The person who made this has literally no idea what they're talking about.
Anonymous No.40956582
>>40943475
>>40956575
Michael Aquino's whole project was explicitly anti-demiurgic. He rejected the idea of submitting to any external creator-god, stressing self-deification through Xeper. If anything, ToS is a textbook anti-demiurge group.
Anonymous No.40956639 >>40958209
>>40949618
no Crowley the Diva said they broke up with Mathers and now he was their new radio
Anonymous No.40958209
>>40956639
gotcha
Aten !LYEuHuoDEM No.40958226
>>40940640 (OP)
When Allah said sorcerers will find no Success
Anonymous No.40959148 >>40959168 >>40962755
>>40941798
This anon nailed it. OP Everything is a LARP to some extent. Unless there's actually writings from the prophets of that religion and even then, almost all of them used poetic and hyperbolic tones to embellish and paint a beautiful picture of the teachings they were trying to convey.

Gonna effort post here since I have resonated so strongly with Western hermetic and occult practices that intertwine and stem a lot from Golden Dawn material. I spent thousands of hours n Buddhist meditation and was able to obtain Janic concentration and insight states. I did multiple solo retreats and practiced 1-2 hours a day for years. I learned a lot and highly value Buddhism but it didn't cut it for me/ was too slow of a process to cut through my own bullshit and mental patterns that no matter how much meditation and practice I put in I could not shake. Eventually I wound up at Vajrayana Buddhism which maybe if I would have stuck with long term would have gotten me the same results but Eastern practices and legends/writings just didn't resonate with me the way Western Occultism and Angel/High Magick did.

Roughly 2.5 years ago I went full fledged into High Magick reading all sorts of authors (most stemming from Golden Dawn material) and after daily practice (1-2 hours a day, I didn't miss a single day for the first year) it has gotten me results I believe would have taken a decade to achieve with Buddhism.

I've accumulated a large enough networth to quit my corproate wagie STEM job a few months ago, have come face to face with complexes and thought patterns that held me back for years, have experienced such intense synchroneities it would drive 90% of the population mad, wrestled with deep despair/dark night of the soul territory, had dreams and visions straight out of the Chymical Wedding of C.R., and am now in a better place I've been since perhaps when I first experienced what Buddhism might call the Arising and Passing away event that really kick started it all.
Anonymous No.40959168
>>40959148
Also want to clarify some of this regarding wealth, that was almost fate/something already in the works prior to going full force into the Western path. Though I had read all sorts of stuff prior I wasn't able or didn't have the knowledge to ascend the tree of life and proper ritual structure until roughly 2.5 years ago. So like most ritual manifestation it comes about in such a way like "did that happen because of my practice and the rituals? Or would it have happened anyways?" Regardless the end result is I'm no longer a wagie and I now do whatever I want with my time and only work if it's something I choose to do.

Not like I care about being super rich and having lambos anyways, but freedom from the wage cage to delve deeper into the Great Work is absolutely priceless to me. If you're running around shitting on other people's traditions that are helping them better themselves you might want to look inward. Different paths work for different people.
Anonymous No.40959971
Bump
Anonymous No.40961865
>>40955007
holy keks
Anonymous No.40962552 >>40962587
I do want to be super rich and fancy and whatnot, but I am not motivated to pursue magic study for it. Magic is the work of the Gods, and I am a subject under their fate.
Anonymous No.40962587 >>40962834
>>40962552
based you'll be a shoe maker on some distant planet
Anonymous No.40962755
>>40959148

I have also had a lot of experience with Buddhism, but I have realized that the ideal, which is essentially always monastic, does not appeal to me. I, too, feel strongly drawn to Western mysticism. Can you recommend a few authors or books that have helped you?
Anonymous No.40962834
>>40962587
>reincarnated as a shoe elf.. am i actually the strongest?
Anonymous No.40964297
>>40941551
Are there actual formulas to follow or do you make your own based off the knowledge contained in said books?
Anonymous No.40964344 >>40964562
>>40940640 (OP)

is this the most over the top logo ever?
they literally threw all they could to a cross lol
Anonymous No.40964562 >>40968980
>>40964344
If you wanna see most over the top, then it's gotta be picrel
Anonymous No.40964899
>>40940669
Like, "Aloha Snackbar!", dude!
Anonymous No.40964936
>>40940669
So Allah and Mohammed are larps. Only djinn are real. Got it.
Anonymous No.40964948
>>40945253
>>40945362
>>40945400
>not answering the fucking question
... because there's no such fucking ritual obviously
Anonymous No.40965835
>>40940669
>Our prophet was a warlord and a pedophile!
>We pray to a big Saturn cube in the desert!
>We are in the right!
Anonymous No.40965854
>>40955007
>Look mom! I posted it again!
>When's dad coming home?
Anonymous No.40966092 >>40966375
>>40940640 (OP)
Every skeptic or secularist post you see on here is made by glowie funded social institutions. They have legions of 'prosocial' shills that are VEY CONCERNED with "misinformation" and wrongthink.

Sometimes they even try to rewrite history regarding the supernatural or subvert the meaning of spirituality itself. It's genuinely really pathetic IMHO
Anonymous No.40966375
>>40966092
Realistically, a Jew, a Christian and a Muslim will be skeptical of each other's beliefs. Not everything can be true. We can only be open-minded to a certain extent before we start becoming facile perennialists.
Anonymous No.40966670
>>40945385
This
Anonymous No.40967246
>>40940640 (OP)
Like said elsewhere in the thread, everything /x/ is a larp (after a fashion).
Anonymous No.40967420
>>40955024
There are many paths, but there is the core being ritual dedication and practice. Stick with a spiritual system and practice that works for you, you can work with the thelemic system for instance but it’s not the only system of practice out there to discover your true Will. You could just as easily go with Christian mysticism, tantric Hinduism or Buddhism with the same intent. You will find it if you have the aspiration
Anonymous No.40967453
>>40940669
>69
i wish that were true but people in DC love dark magic and brainwashing the entire nation. There are fucked up dark people that run this country. That city has an evil spirit in it that fucks with people. There are occultist that raise obelisk and do all kinds of shit. Masons laid out DC street layout and it is meant to be seen from above. They did that before airplanes, space, bird's eye view, like a schematic.

A lot of people were involved in the street layout in DC and fought over it. Even people in Europe had an interest in it.
Anonymous No.40968980
>>40964562
based