Thread 40944929

swear on me mum, watching you guys try to talk about physics makes me murderous but I pledge to be friendly

and no it ain't cuz you've got something revolutionary that I dislike, its usually because you say something really fuckin retarded about things that are well understood but you cant be bothered to inform yourselves about

but I will be friendly i pinky promise

>>40944929 (OP)
I'm working on a project. I want to blast my brain with electromagnetic waves but I'm scared of accidentally frying it. What do I need to learn in order to be safe?

I think most people would have an easier time getting informed if education wasn't tens of thousands of dollars for millions of people

>>40944943
Don’t ask op. He’s not a real physicist. This is probably the idiot who thinks quantum mechanics are people who work on space ships

>>40944943
your brain is regularly subject to electromagnetic waves
the electromagnetic spectrum spans the entire energy range from 0 to infinity
the way to design an experiment would be more about the physical situation you want to explore than the specific wavelength (energy) of light
what are you trying to accomplish?

>>40944929 (OP)
Go read some more David Bohm before you post here you larping faggot

>>40944944
That is a fair point and I do not want to fault people for being curious
What pisses me off is just those who profess to know and say things that are obviously retarded and have been addressed but they are unaware of
Yet they pretend to know

>>40944960
and we can only take you at your word too

>>40944929 (OP)
Actual schizo here
I’ve seen and heard things that broke all the laws of physics or what you believe them to be. Checkmate. Schizo 1 Phd 0

>>40944959
Contrary to that retarded thread i saw and got angry at but was not early enough to meaningfully reply to, bohm is in fact well known and appreciated in physics and even had effects named after him (the ahrinov-bohm effect being the most famous probably)
He is not someone who was ignored contrary to the retards in that thread

>>40944962
I can explain why and cite things to read, it is not just my word

>>40944969
>that was another fake physicist that got embarrassed in that thread
More larps, post your degree and timestamp faggot. No one believes you on this Antarctic penguin breeding board

>>40944978
It's like you didn't even read what I said
What im telling you is he was a real physicist with real contributions

>>40944954
I want to build a helmet that generates vibration in the cerebrospinal fluid.

>>40944992
well in order for electromagnetic waves to interact with something (by the way, electromagnetic radiation is just a more general term for light that includes the non visible portions of the spectrum), the wavelength of the light needs to be on the order of the spacing between the molecules you want to study
this is somewhere near the microwave range
safety is a hard question here. Microwaves are not ionizing but, as you know with your own microwave at home, produce heat.
Your wifi router operates in this range but is safe because it is low power and so cannot actually cook you
You would need a microwave source that is low enough power to not burn you
But "interacting with cerebrospinal fluid" still does not say very much
What do you want the fluid to actually do?
I feel like you lack a concrete answer to this

>>40944929 (OP)
Expertise on the operating principles of the simulation does not confer wisdom on the nature of reality. Pull your head out, hylic. You know nothing.

>>40945011
This is like saying you cannot weigh a ball of iron
Yeah, you can. Regardless of your philosophical interpretation physics as a whole, Larry can still bust out the scale, and so can frank, and they will both agree

>>40945003
I've been reading a lot about brainwave frequency and I just want to find the most efficient way to safely manipulate it. I have tried binaural beats but the results are suboptimal at best. I might try flashing lights with and without binaural beats, and eventually I might add some vibration to the back of the head too, all on the same frequency.
I'm still a little bit limited because all of this is useless without an EEG to measure the changes, but I've seen some cheap options that look interesting.
My end goal is to build a helmet that can be used to safely induce lucid dreams, out of body experiences and the gamma frequencies that have been measured in people who spend 20 years practicing meditation.

>>40945003
Also, as an answer, I want it to just vibrate at the frequency I want. I want to maximize the amount of stimulation in one specific frequency in the brain with the intention of "forcing" it to work on that frequency.

It would take me several hours to give this a proper response
I will just say this:
These things are topics of active, ongoing research that you could get involved in if you want to,
That sound waves and Electromagnetic waves are not the same thing,
And that an EEG machine is very accessible to you, could make one out of an oscilloscope
But you would have a lot of catching up to do before you could meaningfully study such things

>>40945036
This is for you>>40945049
>>40945049
Getting a single frequency is easy
If you mean acoustic waves, youtube can do that
For electromagnetic waves, you can tune a microwave source

>>40945017
>This is like saying you cannot weigh a ball of iron
No, it isn't. You can measure the maya all you want, it tells you nothing about the nature of reality. Appearances are figments of the Mind.

>>40945036
I know someone who has this thing that you put on your ears and it shocks you in different ways, very low levels, to help rewire your brain or something. It goes along with a glasses thing that shines light at you.
What I’m trying to say is they might have what you’re describing already.
Also look up the ‘god helmet.’

>>40945074
But it does tell you something about the nature of reality, because the information you receive comes from reality and seems to be consistent across independent experiments, no matter how many you perform
Nature does apparently tell us some things

>>40945067
The cheap ones I've seen cost around 200-300€ so basically the same price as a cheap oscilloscope anyways. I miss when I was in university and had access to the labs desu, it was the best time to try interesting stuff with the help and knowledge of some professors.
Anyways, yeah, I am aware there is a lot of stuff I don't know about, which is why I have chosen the retarded way of smashing my head against a wall until it breaks.
Right now it's to induce a lucid dream with binaural beats only. Until I have the spare change to buy myself either an oscilloscope or a premate EEG, I can't know what frequencies work so I'm just switching them up until I get results with one and then it's just finding the right spot.
After that I will add the extra sensory input.

>>40945095
If you want my honest opinion:
-setting up an experiment to look at specific auditory or electromagnetic frequencies would be very cheap, accessible to to the average person
-however, they have been done to such depth in literature you could just review that . It seems pointless
-but if you want to you can

>>40945080
I'm 100% sure ((they)) have it. This is early mkultra stuff and it's been a long time since then. I just want one built by me because with a machine like this inducing hypnosis and brainwashing with subliminal messages is actually possible and quite easy, so I wouldn't trust ANYONE to build one for me.

>>40945114
Assuming ((journals)) would publish anything remotely related to a machine that produces easy out of body experiences and that lets you do astral projection at will with the push of a button.

>>40945114
I would argue though that we know most studies are biased. If he wants to see if he can do his own and get different results with his own funding I say go for it.
I think doing research first still does have merit though.

>>40945123
I think you’d be surprised what people have studied.

>>40945123
Like I said, you can do it and you can do it cheaply
But this is such a simple thing to do, probably honestly one of the first things you would do in a lot of eeg studies, that I'd be very surprised if something hidden was there.
This is not something hard to look at. Tens of thousands before you would have already looked at this for myriad reasons many times. It is not hard

>>40945129
I know it sounds kind of esoteric here on /x/ but this is honestly maybe the first thing anyone would do when even calibrating an eeg
It would not be possible to hide something fundamental and revolutionary here.
But don't take my word for it. Less than a thousand bucks, you can look for yourself

>>40945131
Well, you've caught my attention, I will now check out google scholar. At least it will be more useful than a bunch of mystic books about yoga and chakras and other money grabbing scams. I've been ruminating this for only a week and haven't gone too in depth yet, so the more info I have the better.
If I succeed I will let you all know.

>>40944944
>I think most people would have an easier time getting informed if education wasn't tens of thousands of dollars per semester for millions of people
ftfy

I wonder what the average x/ users education level is?

>>40945082
Empirical science only tells you about ephemeral patterns in the simulation and the rules that generate them. Nothing ephemeral is real. Space, time, and matter are only ideas in the Mind, and thus not a part of reality.

>>40944929 (OP)
why havent you guys discovered that the universe is shaped like a torus yet?
that the big bang is a perpetual happening because of that?

>>40945154
You say as you remain wholly confident that the intricacies of electrodynamics that bring you a fucking computer will deliver your message the same way it has been for millions upon millions of people for decades upon decades

>>40944929 (OP)
Hi,
Can you grill my experiment? Its called stout copper pipes
(1/3)

>>40945155
The shape of the universe is studied in great depth and the measurements currently point to slightly positive but nonzero curvature which would mean no cyclic phases like you describe
Large scale shapes such as toruses in various dimensions are absolutely considered but the current measurements support positive curvature

>>40945159
Can you write me something like an abstract, this is very annoying to read

>>40945159
Stout copper pipes is an inquiry into the arbitraryness of the magnetic vector potential.

we begin the taking teslas hairpin circuit, the stout copper bars and hollow the bars out.

we determine by reason that the magnetic vector potential at the center of the pipes when a current goes through it is in line with the current. As the skin effect increases we find the region at the center of the pipe to have a large A but zero B. In the case of a disuptive discharge going through the pipes, we will naturally than expect to see A oscillating with each impulse.

Let us than consider the addition of mercury into the pipe. and let us probe for amperes longitudinal forces. IF no electric field and no magnetic field exists inside the pipe, do you expect the mercury to begin flowing?

>>40945157
>millions of people for decades upon decades
Those are your assumptions. In truth you know nothing beyond the present moment. Time and space are illusions.

>>40945170
>>40945187
yes i was in the process above is (2/3)

https://warosu.org/sci/thread/16185221#p16185264

a more dedicated sourcing of materials (2.5/3)

>>40945187
>the arbiteariness of the magnetic vector potential
It *is* arbitrary, there is gauge freedom
You can replace any vector potential A with A + del(phi) and get exactly the same physics
See: the lorenz gauge, the coulomb gauge, etc

>>40945192
This is an old philosophical question that is not a matter of physics
Obviously everything in physics is under the assumption that there is a past, present, and future
If you want to reject that, you aren't discussing ohysics, youre discussing philosophy
You're also currently violating what youre preaching by having a discussion with me that has a nonzero duration

>>40945203
the above study builds upon perspectives to obtain guage free electrodynamics.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/347844420_Implications_of_Gauge-Free_Extended_Electrodynamics

Simply removing the a part of the equation because there becomes many solutions doesn't mean we should give up on finding the actual one nature uses, or which one nature uses in a given situation.

>>40945227
Fine but until you think of an experiment that can point to one gauge over another, it doesn't do anything
Your proposed experiment certainly doesn't do this

>>40945214
>you aren't discussing ohysics, youre discussing philosophy
Truth is undivided. And physics does not lead to the truth.

Physics only describes patterns in the illusion of temporality, the game mechanics of the simulation. It tells you nothing about what is beyond the illusion, which is whole and timeless and immeasurable.

>having a discussion with me that has a nonzero duration
You are so mentally bound to the ideas of space and time that you falsely project them onto reality itself. It gives your mind plenty to do, measuring this and that, calculating this and that. But reality is beyond this and that, beyond all notions of multiplicity and measurement and distinction. Reality is not what the Mind invents but what allows Mind to exist in the first place, which is whole unconditioned consciousness.

>>40945242
no guages, no truncating the math.

whats your hypothesis. do you think the mercury will move inside the pipe?

>>40945247
I think youre giving more weight to gauges than they deserve
For example, think of potential energy
You can add any constant to potential energy because the physics that is derived from it only depends on changes in potential energy
This is not mysterious. It's just a constant of integration
The gauge is like a multivariate constant of integration. It's not surprising nor interesting if it doesn't affect the dynamics.
Unless you show it is. Which would be equivalent to finding an experiment with different results in different gauges.
That's how you would prove whatever youre trying to prove.
But its already been done in the general case, so you won't be able to.

>>40944929 (OP)
show curve or gtfo

>>40944929 (OP)
if that's true then explain why my post here is wrong: >>40945103

>>40945277
To do so, I'd have to cast your entire experiment in two different gauges and then show theybarent consistent. I can but, why would I spend so much time on a 4chan comment that im very sure is just going to be wrong, lol. Not going to spend hours doing the fundamental work you would need to do to show what you want to show.

>>40945165
yin and yang must resolve themselves, it is a law of nature
such a torus would be much larger than you're imagining
kind of a shit tier answer from you, but this is honestly to be expected from academics who know so very much

>>40945282
Was meant for
>>40945257
This person

>>40945159
NTA you were replying to, but every time I've attempted to load your image my browser has crashed. Pretty paranormal
:3

>>40945165
do you even realize its a massive assumption to extrapolate the measured curvature to such a degree

>>40945257
so, your not sure if the mercury will move or not. Have you studied bohm-aharov, and maxwell-lodge? it the end this is a different way to do blondel 1914 varying A . The whole point is to convert the conjugate momentum into its kinetic form . and once there to be able to restrict the possibilities of the magnetic vector potential without having to resort to gauge theory, or gauge cope .

the mercury can be extended to successive thin films on the inside of the pipes with different permitivities and permeabilities, with the crazyness beginning with BaTiO3 cores

GAGD0

>>40945369
It's the opposite.
The curvature is considered a local measurement. Assuming it is a torus would be a global assumption
But what *is* derivable is the local curvature
If its locally positive, then it cannot be a torus (though it could be infinitely many other shapes so long as they had positive curvature)
It's kind of like saying "we know we aren't inside a sphere, but we cant tell if we're on the surface of a large one or not"

>>40945372
What im saying is that if you want to convince someone, then the path is clear:
Create one guage with one result for some variable
Create another gauge with a different, inconsistent result
Both of these could be cast in terms of your mercury velocity or whatever you want
My hypothesis? You cannot do it

>>40945386
>If its locally positive, then it cannot be a torus
are you sure you're not larping, do you even know what curvature is

>>40945414
The (inner) part of a torus has negative curvature everywhere, same with the inner part of a sphere, etc
Therefore a single positive measurement rules these out

>>40945420
so your brain's just inside a box making ridiculous assumptions
lol the inner part has negative so it disproves
no, your assumptions arent disproving the shape being a torus

>>40945431
You're the kind of retard I alluded to in the ops btw

>>40944929 (OP)
maybe people would have more trust in science and academia as a whole, if those institutions hadn't been caught red handed fabricating evidence to fit hypotheses time and time again, over centuries! or maybe if those institutions cared more about performing actual science in the interest of advancing man's knowledge, instead of focusing on jewish commie faggot brainwashing.

science is flawed in it's very premise. it's supposed to be that a scientist makes a claim, and any fellow scientist who doubts that claim, can replicate the same experiment in his own laboratory and achieve the same result, thus proving or disproving the original claim. but a huge portion (probably most) of reality is totally unreproducable, especially in a lab environment. one issue I have, is that nowadays, the lofty priesthood of Science makes the most outlandish claims about the nature of our universe and reality and world. how am I supposed to verify experiments done at CERN? or data gathered from a rover on another planet? it truly is just one more case of:

>Just trust us, bro.

Science is just another con/grift to be lined up with the rest of them. Many anons on /x/ are tired of cons, and are looking for answers in places science refuses to investigate

>>40945508
The scientific method itself isn't flawed,
the democrats are

>>40944929 (OP)
>actual PhD physics here
Telling everyone they drive him crazy but can’t explain the double slit experiment… YEA WE ARE WAVELENGTHS ACCORDING OP OR BILL NYE THE SCIENCE GUY

>>40945437
>noooo there's no positive curvature on a torus
ok retard

>>40945390
no guage, A is treated the proper was as it was done over 100 years ago as in >>40945187
pic related

>>40945437
>you cant solve the curvature problem, account for the inflaton field, where the big bang comes from and what comes before it all in one swoop like that
just extrapolate linearly from your current position, what could possibly go wrong

>>40944929 (OP)
what about the retarded shit you're saying
>b-but science knows everything so I'm right
academics are taught to be programmed with information
most certainly not to think

>>40945597
scientific method: prove hypothesis with exiperiment, experiment can be reproduced to verify

how science works today: make up nonsense hypothesis, make up nonsense data to "prove"

>experiment can't be reproduced or verified by ANYONE, and you are a rural, uneducated retard who's entire family deserves to be raped, tortured murdered if you even dare question the infallible authority of Science

>>40944929 (OP)
This is the worst rage bait I've seen today I'm surprised so many people are falling for it. If you're actually a PhD physicist I hope you get fucking brutally killed. All of academia deserves to get murdered just like the politicians.

>>40945165
You're wrong it's completely flat. Go troll somewhere else retard You're not even smart enough to parrot the mainstream narrative lol

>>40944929 (OP)
What are your thoughts on the possibility of electromagnetic life?

>>40944929 (OP)
If ur an actualy phd in physics and u believe in ball erf and moon landings u have notning to teach us bye

>>40944929 (OP)
What do you think of this
https://www.quatism.com/theory.htm
https://www.quatism.com/lottery.htm

>>40946078
Are you posting links to ftm porn?

>>40947129
No

>>40944929 (OP)
>talk about physics
Your observable future is within the lightcone determined by the speed of light, because you cannot observe events outside of this.
Your observable past is a lightcone in the opposite direction in time, past events outside it cannot affect you.
When you make observations you collapse the wave function representing possible futures.
Your history is determined through observation as well, when you observe the past you collapse multiple histories that exist in superposition into one.
This is the "Top Down Topography Cosmology", and explains what Mandela Effects are: since everyone's pasts exist in superposition until measured, Mandela Effects are caused by the interference pattern created by histories in superposition.

>>40944929 (OP)
What would be your standar for proving you can get novel information out of psychic stuff.

Like how much would someone to be able to figure out using psychic methods if they were a real psychic.

>>40945681
look at this fuckin moron talk about slight positive curvature proving the universe cant be a torus, then goes on to lecture about the scientific method
if you're not going to try, then fuck off with your gay ass pretentious thread
the fuck did you make it for except to try and egotrip, faggot

>>40945555
no gauge is still a gauge... its just 0
you can do it and it doesn't change the physics. people can and do do this all the time.
this is what is meant by gauge freedom. Use any gauge you like and the physics doesn't change
its similar to the idea of a constant of integration
you can take your position to be x or you can make it x' = x+c (i.e. i could say my current position is zero feet away from where i am now, or 10 feet away from that basketball hoop, doesnt matter, gives the same result
now take the velocity dx/dt, notice it is the same as dx'/dt
None of this matters because it just changes the coordinate system and the laws of physics are invariant under a change of coordinates
Gauge freedom is analogous

>>40945696
its very close to flat but has been measured to have a small positive curvature
It being close to flat is why you can use special relativity for a lot of problems, this uses the minkowski metric which describes a flat spacetime. It's a good local approximation or works exactly in non accelerating reference frames
If you want to talk about say cosmology, then you have to use general relativity, which uses a non flat metric
current measurements imply a metric with a small positive curvature

>>40944944
>what is a fee waiver

>>40944929 (OP)
Actually I have 3 phd’s all in physics and I can tell you’re a retarded faggot by the way you talk

>>40948359
oh okay I guess I'll just leave then bye

faggot wanker

>>40948369
What is your take on the possibility of electromagnetic life?

>>40948520
could be. Hard to predict what that would be like though

>>40944929 (OP)
The fuck you're doing here?

>>40948296
No it's entirely flat. The calculations you're referring to aren't substantiated.

>>40948359
>3 phd’s all in physics
Lol they haven't told you about the fourth one yet? hahahaha

>>40948910
Your mom's gay your dad has sex with little boys your grandpa drinks dog semen your first crush was raped. Jesus is God

>>40944929 (OP)
hello pleasse befriend me im. a physics student my discord is frybreadass

>>40948529
Would it though? I’ll speculate and you correct me if I breach known physics.

Immortality:
Electromagnetic life, or plasma life, would have increased longevity. No biological decay = only needs to worry about self stabilization through consuming energy

Telepathy / divine inspiration:
The human brain produces (tiny) electromagnetic fields with each thought. Plasma is highly sensitive to EMF. Potentially it could interpret these fields to translate what we are thinking. Also potentially it could use its own EM field to project “thought” to us.

Abductions & visions
Plasma life would be capable of using its EM field to create the same hallucinogenic effects as transcranial magnetic stimulation

UAP / orbs
It would be able to ride electromagnetic lines and be unaffected by gravity, able to move at high speeds and stop or turn on a dime.

I’ll stop there for now. Plausibility? We can go over characteristics of life next if you’re willing.

>>40944929 (OP)
Mathematics and frequencies hold this universe together, faggot. What do you know about it?

>>40949403
Electromagnetic life, or plasma life, would have increased longevity. No biological decay = only needs to worry about self stabilization through consuming energy

Nigga just create your entire body out of purely protons and never decay. It really is that simple

>>40949622
>Nigga just create your entire body out of purely protons and never decay. It really is that simple
This. No idea why more people don't do this.

>>40949653
Make fun of me all you want but it's the only truthful answer. We only speculate that protons decay

>>40945165
>>40948296
You are not up to date. Current results imply that the cosmological constant is not in fact constant but is getting smaller over time

>>40948640
being a faggot trying to show everyone how cool he is cuz he knows everything, and he knows this for a fact because his professors who know everything taught it to him
he knows everything so well that he can speak authoritatively on purely speculative matters and say its all data backed and measured

>>40945036
>I want to design a Cerobrospinal-Cymatic helmet to induce altered states of consciousness
You are on the right track. Architectural designs of the ancients specifically promoted this in conjunction with chanting, dancing and entheogen use. Combining this with intonation and mantra, the ancients performed what you speak to.
This is doable and I've seen people talk about it. It required special speakers, optimized metrics like proximity and various physiological requisites iirc. I don't actually remember enough of the details, unfortunately.
If you guys want some help, the people studying Occult subjects do specifically aim to do this, just like the Gateway program and just like this anon is talking about. Personally, I don't suggest jumping through all these hoops. It's best to just do the hard work. If you really need a boost, look for muh diamond path. That's the actual fast lane, for what it's worth.

op is a faggot but he's a correct faggot

>>40944929 (OP)
I know what this means to me, but I'm curious what it means to someone like you.

>>40951738
It means you're gay.