Thread 40980659

i am a FtM and undergoing transition seems lame and unhealthy so i am looking here to see if any of you got any magick tricks that could make me a dude. thanks in advance

>>40980659 (OP)
Yeah i got a magic trick for you right here

Why would you wanna be a nigga instead of a beautiful bitch that God made you to be? God made you the way he intended to be.

>>40980659 (OP)
You really fall for that huh?

Quit or don't do hormones/surgery. trust me, you will regret it. It's not worth it, it's never worth it. No one will really see you as a man deep down, not even yourself. It's just a facade. When the self affirming delusion breaks you realize you just made yourself into a freak and you can't really become a man, can't fully hide all your female features, and if you have a strong online identity you'll find irl doesn't hold up the same - they've been seeing you as this fucked up freak the whole time, tolerating it, faking it. Whatever you need to do to make peace with yourself, no matter what others say, no matter what you think you feel, this isn't it. I promise you. I've been there. I've lived the lie. Don't ruin your life. Nothing you want or are imagining will happen, even if you think it's happening, you'll find it's all lies. You'll still get body dysmorphia after because you can't change what you're born as. It's disgusting and fucked up this is even allowed, legal or humor in any respect. It's inhumane.

>>40980659 (OP)
Why be a mid femoid when you can be a below average manlet? Seriously, gtfoh before you become part of the suicide statistic. Imagine being so dumb to think that your life will be better as a man.

>>40980777
Eyyyy lookie dat slot pull eyyyy!!!

>>40980659 (OP)
And reverse boat. I have an androgenous build, however I'm not in an enviornment where I can event dress up. For me it's been stories, video games, and visualiaztion and other things.

As for magic maybe consider practicing lucid dreaming methods. I use to slip into those myself at times, but never went all in on practicing to hone in on those.
As of now I'm the daydreamer anyway
*cough cough* 420 hahahaha grassy smoke plant *cough*

Adeptus minor here. In practice, Magic is the manipulation of nature itself and the elements to fulfill our will. Your desires however go against your own nature, you are literally rejecting the very gift that was conceded to you.

I am sorry but there are not any spells or tricks to go against nature itself. You will never be a real man, at best, just look like one.

>>40980659 (OP)
I hope you start balding lmao.

>>40980659 (OP)
i think it's respectable that you recognize men as superior even if it's just your shitty yaoi fetish, but you have no dick between your legs, you are doomed to be a foid for the rest of your life

>>40980659 (OP)
Dude seriously, you have it much better being the tomboy you were born as. This isn’t Terraria, don’t force yourself into playing on hardmode. Trust me, you will gain much more respect and appreciation being a woman. I’m sorry you don’t feel that way currently but it’s the truth.

You will never be a real man. You got no dick. No prostate. Just a cuntboy. A foid pretending to be a real Man.

>>40982095
fall for what?

>>40980659 (OP)
You actually lost magic by transitioning. Only MtFs gain from transitioning as FtM become lower vibration by transitioning and losing female boons given to them by divine forces. You basically rejected any magick that you would have had.

>>40982036
god doesn't love me. i am on my own now

>>40982788
how does that even work? care to explain?

>>40982104
were you a FtM?

>>40982236
i know is not easy. that's why is so thrilling. the power, the rawness of malehood. how they have a inner fertility that is sounded out with their own self-independence. as a woman, i would always need to be care of, i will never be free

>>40982280
why are you dudes so mean???

>>40982296
go fuck yourself

>>40982400
>just your shitty yaoi fetish

actually, i feel like, the reason why i wanted to be a dude in the first place is because how much i loved BL dynamics and the omegaverse. i wish i could find a relationship like that

>>40982476
i am just going to ignore you

>>40982806
You receive boons from female deities and sadly male deties don't give many boons at all to non-males. We are all born with boons and star signs that give us power. Within the female does not exist the divine masculine but males are both with divine feminine and masculine this is because females always have aspects of the mother and paternal grandmother while males have aspects of both mother and father. If you want to gain power as an FtM then just work out and lift weights.

>>40982820
Sometimes the truth feels that way, werther you like it or not. Sorry, you were born a female and will leave this world being a female, that's the way it's supposed to be and there's nothing you can do to change that.

>>40980659 (OP)
smoke cigarettes, nicotine neutralizes serum estrogen.
>https://youtu.be/65_-vNtWLLs?si=ixzbkVCzx_fDZn9r

>>40982843
what is a boon?

>>40982983
A divine gift. It's like a buff in a video game.

Gender transformations are simulacra in simula, and never will overcome distance from both. Some things are absolutely true. Welcome to IT.

>>40982983
a tard queef

>>40982833
You have a child's understanding of yourself and reality. The idea of transitioning gender is a lie propagated by a mentally ill culture filled with sexual degeneracy. You yourself are both victim and perpetrator, in that you have been corrupted by it, and your own inner degeneracy has used it as a weapon to rationalise and normalise your sexual dysfunction. This is a dysfunction that allows the mental, emotional, psychological, and sexual abuse of millions of children and adults across the world, and you are responsible for fostering it and energising this evil in the world. My advice to you is to beg for God's mercy for your utter wickedness and complete hypocrisy. Since He is just, it would be right for you to be destroyed instantly, but we are blessed that He is also merciful. Throw yourself upon His mercy or throw yourself into hell, there is no other righteous act you can now do.

You won't be as strong as a man unless you were already a mutant woman. Plus there's not a lot of social benefits to being a man of you don't have the mind and body of one. Being a girl you can tomboy really hard but being full Male just ain't going to happen. Do you look for solutions before you look for emotions? Do you have all the instincts males have but don't talk about? Are you prepared to be seen as nothing or dangerous until you prove yourself like a man would? You're not given much by default as a man. Tomboys are treated better by default even though girl to girl bullying comes up sometimes. As long as you don't get stupid with politics or something socially similar guys will ne fine with you as a woman if you're a tomboy (except the extra insecure ones but you just got to man up around them if they can't).

>>40982815
It's not going to change that, you'll still be a woman deep down, honestly, you should just learn to accept yourself.

>>40982833
Gays vs trans is a real thing. Plus gays are as catty as women on the wrong day.

>>40982820
Nothing is sugar-coated for a man's feelings.

>>40983189
i never wanted things to be sugarcoated. i just want power

>>40982815
>i would always need to be care of
Women recieve power from making others care for them and you threw that power away to gain what? All you've seemed to gain is more confusion.

>>40983328
You still have magick to gain power with. And you don't have to change your sex to do that. You do need to get yourself mentally clean to use it though. Most magick requires a certain kind of clarity to use and anything that uses imbalance to function will destroy you if you makeup your main thing.

>>40983366
Make it make up*

>>40980659 (OP)
https://youtu.be/ku5bf3qfOrY
Watch this before you do anything.

>>40982800
It will get worse as a man. You do not have any intrinsic value as a man, you do as a woman due to your ovaries. By throwing that away you will become expendable and the world will treat you as such. You are making a grave mistake, embrace being a woman and the easier life you were gifted. Also yes, God hates everyone, he is the purest expression of evil and created all evil things to do evil, but becoming something you are not will change that or make your life better. Stop now if you can.

>>40983166
lol you wont ever be as strong as a man im intersex
and my bench press is like 140 max

>>40983496
There's mutations for condensed muscle that can happen. But she doesn't have those.

Unfortunately, there are no known methods... a miracle is needed, which does not happen here.
Regarding critics and attempts to convince you not to do it: they can give different arguments, but the only thing that matters is the final quality of what you will come to and there is an extremely small chance (almost none) that this will be the only issue.
Human life consists of many elements and changing only one, and no one will change the time spent and the experience you have had - and the quality and importance of the new will be extremely doubtful.
There is an expression "A spoon is valuable for dinner", in reality it will turn out that not only you were not given a spoon, but there is also no food, furniture and in general the roof over your head is leaky.
And if you were 100% sure that even this is acceptable to you - you would not ask for more.
For example, for me, even more voluminous desires and dissatisfaction accumulated from life create something similar, but I have to live here and hope for a miracle that will not happen. Simply because the alternatives are even worse. I do not want to suffer or rather be sad, and especially not wish this on other innocent people.

You need to understand what magic is and what it isn’t. Magic works on levels of mind, spirit, perception, and synchronicity. It bends the way energy moves, the way others respond to you, and even how you respond to yourself. That’s why it feels powerful, because it is powerful—but it has limits. One of those limits is that it cannot override the most basic substrate of incarnation. When you were born, your soul entered a vessel. That vessel has fixed parameters: sex, genetics, skeletal structure, reproductive system. That is the “root material” you’ve been given to work with. Magic can dress it, can empower it, can amplify certain traits—but it cannot transmute the vessel itself into the opposite sex. Think of it like this: you can enchant lead to feel like gold, you can get people to treat it as gold, you can polish it until it shines—but unless you also perform physical alchemy with furnaces and chemicals, it never becomes gold. The underlying substance doesn’t change. The same is true with sex. You can invoke Mars or Saturn, you can align with masculine archetypes, you can project an aura of “man” so strong people instinctively read you as male. But your chromosomes won’t shift, your bone structure won’t alter, your biology won’t sprout male organs. Magic doesn’t do that. It never has. That’s not “lack of faith”—it’s how the current works. And here’s the part you might not want to hear: chasing magical rituals to literally become male is a dead end. You’ll waste time, energy, and sanity trying to force something the universe has already locked in. Incarnation is deliberate. You chose—or were bound—to this body. The lesson of your life is inside that choice. Running from it with fantasy won’t change what it is.At best, magic can give you confidence in playing a masculine role, or make others treat you as though you were one. At worst, it traps you in delusion while nothing changes in the mirror.

>>40983606
Either way, the hard truth remains: you will never become a biological man through magic. That path doesn’t exist. If you really want masculinity, you can cultivate it—through discipline, strength, ritual, and projection. That’s real. But the dream of casting a spell and waking up with a different body? That will never happen. No amount of candles, chants, or sigils can undo the blueprint of the flesh you were born into.

>>40982808
Yes. I also saw anime/manga figures as inspo or idols in a way as I assume from your pictures you might (though wasn't limited to that). I was an early adopter before it really blew up in public media and online, I truly believed I was meant to be a man and would be happier presenting as such. My entire self worth became tied to it. I lived years of my life in public, at work, meeting new peers as "a man". It was a horrible mistake and one of my biggest regrets. I've seen countless other females who went down the same path admit the same mistake. Same with mtfs. Many who went through with surgery especially end up killing themselves once it all sets in. There's no magic way to become a man and the fucked up methods offered to become one are disgusting and should be illegal. There are usually a lot of different combining factors for why someone comes to feel like they should be or want to be the opposite sex. In the end it is usually some deep seated self issues, usually tied with your actual sex identity or feeling inferior in some way, sometimes childhood abuse (even just emotional abuse or bullying) can tie into it. When I was deep in it, I never thought I had such things, I couldn't even see it. Whatever you do where you imagine yourself as a man, whatever idolizations you have, whatever hopes you have, I recommend slowly trying to replace those with a female in your mind. Find characters in shows and movies who are female but still resonate with you. It might feel unnatural at first, just try to build your perfect self in a body aligning direction. Keep slowly replacing until you retrack your mind and come to realize you can still admire men, their bodies, ability, whatever, but be content as you are.

I also used 4chan in my formative years and the sexism sometimes doesn't help create self love for your own sex. Try to avoid or ignore female hate threads/posts if you go on boards that feature them. Likewise with other media content.

>>40980659 (OP)
ywnbam

>>40982833
I'll also touch on this. BL relationships are written largely by women for women, that's why they are so idealized by women. One of the men is almost always a stand in for a woman, honestly. And it's not how relationships are like irl especially not between gay men. At best you'd find another Fujo to larp with as a lesbian while you both live in delusion. Another thing to consider if you are attracted to men is that the men you are attracted to are not attracted to men, and if they are, they are not attracted to trannies. So in the end, if you truly want a relationship like that, with a man, you will need to come to terms with being a woman. You can be a strong or cold or free woman. One of my favorite lame animu idols is Ghislaine Dedoldia. Vidya I like Baiken. They're still strong or non emotional, but distinctly female. Hell, maybe try to start imagining your favorite self insert male chars as female if you think it'll help. Women can be all the things you think only men are, and if you aren't seeing distinct examples of that in your life, then be the one to prove to everyone else they can.

>>40982815
>the power, the rawness of malehood
Men are oppressed and disenfranchised in current year tho. Why you want to join the losing team?

>>40980659 (OP)
Your body may be female, but you can be a male in mind.

>>40984030
do you have any discord?

oh a dude huh. awful broad request. how about a balding fat 50 year old man? oh you think you are gonna get a 18 year old ripped alpha huh? long time practitioner here.. you have to pay an equal price to get a high result. magic is not free, its currency is pain and suffering. but even so you have to have a very concreate wish and intention. they are not smart they give you exactly what you wish for so you better not have any fears or doubts or they will manifest too. tldr no, dont bother it will take you decades to even get skilled enough to find lost things let alone gender swap into young tall alpha LOL.

>>40984334
A typical representative of the belief in "balance" and "price"...
There is no price that people could pay for such a thing, if we consider it realistically and fairly.
This means that if someone has the power to perform such miracles - then for them changing reality is not something difficult and everything can objectively be offered to them by a person - they can get it themselves at any time and it does not make sense. You will not "buy" a drop of rain from a midge, standing in your own shower.
And people usually suffer regardless of their desires.
So such logic requires the existence of objective value and the possibility of equivalent exchange to work, and this does not exist. As a result, in order for people to start believing in such things, they need to introduce additional parts that do not exist, but convince people of their existence in order to obey some rules. And how unexpectedly - this usually means even more suffering, who benefits from this - to increase suffering and do nothing in return? What is this motivation?

>>40984267
holy shit shes cured

Men will never respect you. You are not a man just a larper. Women love to project their desires and try to embody and emulate it.

You want Gojo so if you can't obtain a Gojo because you're a mid-tier female the next best thing is to "become Gojo" but that's a lie. You will never become him and even if you magically could he wouldn't fuck you like in your sick demented fantasies. Find a man who will dominate and submit you back to your base femininity like God intended, and stop projecting you retard

tldr; YWNBAM

>>40982104
this guy is retarded and should be ignored

I'm FTM, I'm currently using some non-traditional, more magickally aligned methods to transition. First off, think long and hard about if this is something you actually want to do, it's not something you can really take back; I've read your messages, and I'm skeptical on if you're trans or just have internalized misogyny. You think undergoing transition is lame and unhealthy, which honestly points towards you being a self hating cis girl. You're not going to like this, but if you are actually trans, as in you experience gender dysphoria, you're going to have to transition. Magick just makes it easier. For actual practice, just manifest, work with a deity like Ishtar or Loki, build a good relationship with them and let them guide you, and do your best with transitioning like everyone else. Transitioning in this life is a trial of resilience, and actually turning yourself into a cis guy with magick is really fucking hard and long. Mundane first and foremost, worry about magick in spare time/later. I know one guy said "transitioning to male will make you lose your boon," no it won't, at least not in my experience, but my matron is Ishtar, she doesn't give a fuck, she literally transed a guy in Sumerian mythology. Just know, it's not going to be like what you expect, you're not going to suddenly get "raw power" or become a giga chad, you're just going to be you but with more testosterone. You still have to hit the gym for big muscles, and you're probably going to be a twinky looking guy unless you actually put time and effort into your appearance on your own, sure Ishtar can help, but you're still the one doing the action, she's just blessing you to make it more effective and manipulating things in your favor.

>>40984857
>or just have internalized misogyny
This is what being "trans" is. Internalized self hatred usually with a spice of ingrained sexist gender roles. There is no "true trans" because gender and body dysmorphia is a certified mental illness, no different from anorexics starving themselves thinking they're fat. You may have deluded yourself otherwise, but that is the reality of transgenderism. Live as a more masculine woman, that's fine, there's no harm in that. But you are only hurting yourself (and by encouraging it potentially hurting others) by trying to propagate and live in delusion.

>>40980659 (OP)
musky cunt

>>40980659 (OP)
an hero and hope for better luck in the next life is probably the best /x/ related bet.
otherwise, get the psychological help you need.