Thread 40980667

How can I protect myself against demons?

Hahaha you really can't if they want you.

But I'll help you: you have be gay with that love and light shit and live according to some gay lame purpose you have. Meditate on love and light, and do angelic banishings everyday. Welcome to slavery.

>>40980667 (OP)
By staying positive.

>>40980688
>Hahaha you really can't if they want you.
This. If they target you you're in for a rough ride and your only hope is to remain stoic, don't react to their torment/temptations, and ride it out. If they can't break you they'll move onto someone else.

>>40980782
Yep

>>40980782
What if they trick you into blaspheming the Holy Spirit? What then?

>>40980667 (OP)
Honestly you really can't, but if you are respectful and if aren't a huge pussy, they generally let you be.

Some take an interest in certain people but if you become uninteresting they move on. Some become hostile for no reason, but that's generally the no name lower ones who use fear as food. Regular banishing would yeet those unless you really suck at it.

Don't ever try to command them, it just pisses them off, don't LARP as Solomon. Few can really pull that off and if you have to ask this on 4chan, you don't number among them.

If your goal is avoiding them, letting them be is the way - this includes not being overly religious in a way that is hostile to them. Neutral is best. You don't have to be their buddy.

>>40980851
God will forgive you if you ask Him. I'm not even particularly religious but I doubt he would take much issue, especially if you were being attacked by literal demons at the time.

>>40980851
There's a misconception most people seem to have. It's not that most demons actually care about making you blasphemous specifically. It's that the act itself upsets YOU and it's funny to them.

It's a way to get under your skin and make you feel bad if you care about it. If you don't and they want to fuck with you, they find other things instead.

It's literally a game to them.

>>40980898
I think I'm being a target as I'm bombarded by blasphemous thoughts and false memories about me having the feeling of having done something horrible but no recollection of it. It's praying the best way to go about it? Or should I take more precautions?

>>40980914
Honestly, talk to your doctor. This is much more readily explained by a mental health issue as opposed to demonic attacks. If it's still happening after they give you therapy and medication, or it's getting worse, then consider demons. You're most likely suffering from anxiety, what you said is textbook anxiety disorder. I've been through the same shit. Medication helped. It's not always demons. You will be okay brother, I promise.

>>40980914
>false memories about me having the feeling of having done something horrible but no recollection of it
Could you elaborate on this?

What they do is generally target you where you're weak, so this must stem from a vulnerable side of you in some way.

About the blasphemous thoughts, acknowledging them and letting them go is usually the thing that makes it stop in the long run. But if you could elaborate this would be clearer.

I want to make it clear I'm not religious, but I've been under attack and won through sheer willpower. Literally made them understand I wasn't an easy target and they chilled. So there's more than one way, it's not a cookie cutter thing.

>>40980934
Thank you Anon, could be anxiety but my gut feeling tells me it could be demons, maybe to a lesser extent but when I'm at a church or listen to chants I feel this sense of uneasiness but I will definitely go to therapy as I heard demons also feed of emotional and psychological wounds

>>40980943
>Could you elaborate on this?
It's a sensation of guilt. I don't know where it comes from so sometimes I have this thoughts of: what if I've done something so horrible that I've just repressed it? Am I living a lie?

And it fills me with anxiety because that "something" is a blank canvas

I tried finding out if I did anything, have tried to remember or meditate hoping something would come to the surface but so far my efforts have been useless

>>40980953
The more I think about it, the more I think it's OCD. OCD is anxiety-adjacent and preys on your worst worries and amplifies them, making you think you're a terrible person and even making you think you might start acting out awful things. It can make you feel like you're going completely insane. However, as long as you're not actually hearing voices, or thinking that people are following you or anything like that, you're not going mad. Meds almost always clear this up. Trust me, talk to your doc. You'll be fine.

>>40980968
Been there, and the answer is that it's likely really nothing. You're likely feeling this way because of repressed trauma or guilts you've been made to feel throughout your life for things that were not wrong. In short, you're having it rough and therapy would unironically help.

Even if you did something bad, then what? What penance would fix your guilt? What repentance would make it right?

You can only live in the here and now and try not to harm anyone going forward - including yourself.

>>40980977
I don't think I'm hearing voices but I'm wondering, could this not be caused by demons in a way? Because from what I read here there might be a link between OCD and them trying to break me.

I will follow your advice, I think it can't hurt to look for medical help as well as spiritual help but how can one tell the difference between demonic oppression and mental illness?

>>40980914
I think I was the target of a demon attack last year. I've always had trouble with faith (im working on it now) but I was at the lowest point of my life and got admitted into an outpatient mental health program and had to get FMLA for work for a few months. I broke down and was weeping and begging for God to help me. The next day I get on YouTube and in my recommended videos I had dozens of videos of a demon (won't say it's name) and that this demons domin would be able to help with all my problems. I truly believe that something evil heard me that night and was attempting to tempt me.

>>40980914
you have OCD

go to a doctor

>>40981015
You can't. You'll never know. Demons mimic mental health problems for this reason. But you want to try the mental health route before you start pulling your hair out in the corner of a room thinking demons are attacking you, which they very likely aren't.

>>40981013
>Even if you did something bad, then what? What penance would fix your guilt? What repentance would make it right?
That's what I ask myself daily. I need to become a better person; I know it sounds corny but I wish I could turn to the light, everything in my life is really cold and bleak so I just want to turn away from my sin and feel some sort of warmth

I don't know how things have gotten this bad to begin with, I really want to let go and heal but this thought in the back of my mind keeps telling me I'm doomed to be trapped within this darkness and fall into despair, that I'm simply unable to escape and it's a terrifying though, I just want to go to the light, away from demons

>>40980977
Angel Dubs!
Yeah OCD is bundled up with "Intrusive Thoughts". Unlike what social media portrays, intrusive thoughts are not impulsive thoughts. Intrusive thoughts are your brain tricking you showing you things you REALLY don't want. Thoughts that generate so much anxiety, your brain can't let go (because of how OCD works in your frontal lobe and all). It's terrible, but you must remind yourself that this isn't what you want. You also can't fight these thoughts, you kinda have to let them go by like a wave (easier said than done). A good call to differentiate OCD from other mental conditions is that people with OCD know their OCD compulsions aren't "real". They know locking the door X times won't alter how their day goes, but it eases the anxiety so they do it. In some other conditions they'll believe that if they don't go through with it, the neighbors who've been spying on him will take it as a sign to stab their dog.
>>40980968
Could be some sort of trauma. But the self doubt about, specifically, being a bad person does sound like something you'd see from OCD or some other anxiety disorder. As others have said you should probably talk to a shrink about it if it's impairing your life.
I have a hard time saying that IT IS OCD because I find it hard that it would've taken you this long to notice it (afaik you start seeing signs by early Teenage years), but who knows.
Wish you the best my friend.

>>40981062
You don't become a better person through wishes but through deeds.

Damning yourself over every mistake sorts the effect of demotivating you because you feel like you're not living up to a standard.

Rewarding yourself for successfully fulfilling one of your goals for yourself is going to be the best route for this. You need positive reinforcement. You're likely used to punishment.

>>40980667 (OP)

Masturbate everyday family.

>>40981052
>>40981068
>>40981079
Thank you Anons. Definitely OCD could be something at play here, as well as traumas because early in my life I did go through a lot and it left me mentally scarred. For now I think I will try to take my spirituality more seriously and on the other hand go to therapy. It's a bit expensive but living like this is a nightmare so it's something I have to do. I will also try to go to church more often despite feeling uneasy whenever I'm in one

>>40980667 (OP)
Be on top of you awareness. Don't give them conscious attention. They need you more than you need them, you give them deeper existence with your attention, they take root that way.

>>40981123
Hate to throw buzzwords around but this sounds like religious trauma, and maybe it's time you sit down and really consider if you're mistaking spirituality with religion. They're not the same.

Being spiritual is finding your own philosophy, sometimes in a religion.

Being religious is following dogma. Even if it makes you feel like shit.

You can be a proper Christian without being religious. But you have to ask yourself if forcing yourself to go to church when it makes you feel that way is worth it right now.

Start by considering your relationship with God. Yours - you and them.

No priests, no pastors, no books.

What do you feel?

Gotta sleep but I'll leave you some stuff to think about.

What is sin to you?

If church is so important to you, what is it that Jesus taught about sin, and sinners who repent with a sincere heart?

What is God to you? What relationship do you have with him, without intermediaries?

Do you regard him as a father or as a judge? Because judging isn't what God is about. Judgment comes from within.
God's wish is to help you rejoin him, pure and simple.

Have you ever asked angels for protection and guidance?
They're more like friends or guardians who pray and stand alongside you than the destination of your prayer.

Jesus is the same, he was a teacher.

And a final word about demons.

They can teach you. They can adore, they can treasure.

They're not evil but they are not good either. Because those are human morals and standards, and they do not follow human laws.

That is what demons are, lawless.

They're about forging your own law and tempering yourself in the wild- or dying trying. And many fail to survive their influence.

The ones who bring you low for fun are parasites, lower beings. They feed on your misery.

They don't care about you sinning. They feed off the guilt and self flagellation you inflict on yourself for failing. So they find your weak spots and poke them sore.

They have as much power as you give them over your mind, and no more than that. They can try shattering a will, but they don't have the power to do so unless it is you giving up.

Basically what I'm telling you is: stop fixating on them and work on yourself. A house that is built on sand collapses at the first rain, one built on rocks doesn't.

>>40981300


>What is sin to you?

Treating others a way I wouldn't want to be treated.

>If church is so important to you, what is it that Jesus taught about sin, and sinners who repent with a sincere heart?

It isn't.

>What is God to you? What relationship do you have with him, without intermediaries?

God is energy.

>Do you regard him as a father or as a judge? Because judging isn't what God is about. Judgment comes from within.

I regard to it as something that is in control.

>Have you ever asked angels for protection and guidance?
Negative energy is provoked.

>>40981421
That's what I don't understand. Why force yourself to go to church then?

It ain't going to fix anything by itself.

>>40981443
I'm a different anon replying to your post btw

>>40980667 (OP)
??!
>stop being a massive pussy, first.

>>40980667 (OP)
Rape them.

>>40981467
Ah, my replies were to OP but...
I share your views for the most part.

But ironically considering my post, my experience with demons is first hand because I actually commune with them once in a while.

Negative energy isn't always provoked, sometimes it just happens. I only believe in attraction up to a certain point.

Sometimes it just comes and all you can do is weather it. When you're already weak, it makes you cave.

OP needs that little push out of the ditch.

>>40981231
>>40981300
Hey Anon, OP here, sorry for the late reply. Thank you, your comment did give me a lot of insight. I think that's the key, look for guidance so I navigate my inner turmoil without succumbing to despair. To me sin is the misuse of the God given gifts we have been given and I did abuse them in many occasions but you are right, God is the Father so I need to see Him as such, thank you for making me see that