Thread 41032222

Please help me understand /x/ bros.
If all my memories and everything will be erased before reincarnation what difference does it make in compassion to void/non-existence? If after my death I won't get access to my previous incarnations why I'll be stupid enough to "try again"?

>>41032222 (OP)

Theological answer: To atone for mistakes, sins, or negative karma accumulated in this lifetime.

Theological answer #2: To continuously participate in shaping the story of mankind through participation over lifetimes.

Metaphysical answer: Your 'soul' or animating force exists within a contained information field, and has nowhere to go except into a new body / vessel.

>>41032222 (OP)

Continuity of observer effect. All of us unravel existence by observing it. You affirm existence by existing. For existence to be true, it must be be witnessed. If all of us died and stopped existing, there wouldn't be any more existence, because there would be nobody to witness it.

>>41032294
this story isn't that interesting, it's begging for a mercy killing

>>41032329
Well then you know the way out, but you'll be back LOL

>>41032222 (OP)
Checked quads
I assume time doesn't really exist or matter outside of this place. I assume outside here "I" play games by limiting "myself" and I'll just be here until I decide not to be. We forget because that's what the game is
"I" probably includes everyone including (You)

>>41032294
>within a contained information field
why does this magical field cannot keep memories of my past lives?
>>41032328
>Continuity of observer effect
ok but why not just create new "soul" for each new life?

>>41032357
Believe it or don't

>>41032294
>Theological answer: To atone for mistakes, sins, or negative karma accumulated in this lifetime.

See this right here has never sat right with me. How can you atone for something you can't remember doing? You can't remember these actions you're being punished for from a previous life. You might not even have a similar personality. There's no way for you to truly be sorry for the actions or the karma with no memory of the acts. How can you be the same person that committed the acts if that person is dead? It's really just punishing someone else for the sins of another, it might as well be original sin.

>Theological answer #2: To continuously participate in shaping the story of mankind through participation over lifetimes.

More reasonable of an answer I expect that if the source could be said to want or desire anything that would be new experiences.

>Metaphysical answer
What about the pleroma?

>>41032357
>ok but why not just create new "soul" for each new life?

Laws of Thermodynamics
Energy does not disappear, it transforms

>>41032355
>"I" probably includes everyone including (You)
that will give this whole ordeal some sense

>>41032401
>What about the pleroma?

Existence above existence is a non-existent state. It becomes circular reasoning if you engage with the concept logically, but the Hermetic Gnostic would argue that Pleroma cannot be defined so logic, so we have a philosophical and teleological stalemate.

>>41032407
He's technically right to a degree. See picrel - every triangle cluster at the bottom feeds into the triangle cluster at the top, with the serpentine middle as the separation between 3D/4D.

>>41032420
would've been smart to attach picrel

>If all my memories and everything will be erased before reincarnation
memories are just a perspective of an event, if the event can be reconstituted then one's experience can be conjured, given certain preconditions
>what difference does it make in compassion to void/non-existence?
assuming you meant 'in comparison' and to answer, you are more than your experiences.
>If after my death I won't get access to my previous incarnations why I'll be stupid enough to "try again"?
the purpose of all and any life is to individuate to a significant degree of oneself. you can get access to previous incarnations, but compared to the process of becoming they -- especially at the beginning -- are basically window dressing. First things first, you know?

>>41032401
>How can you atone for something you can't remember doing?
In a near death experience the life review is said to be unbelieveably intense and can feel as if it lasted a lifetime. Nearly all the experiencers change their personality to be much better person.
My theory is during the life review your subconsious takes this to heart and shapes your personality for your next life. That could be why some people are naturally greedy assholes or kindhearted or any other personality trait. Our best traits is a reflection of what we've learned in a past life.

Yes I am aware of the flaws in this theory but I'm just trying to make sense of it.

>>41032401
I’ve never seen persona before. It says online that its fullness with Christ. I’m confused, does this mean a loss of self and absorption into the ether or a recognition of oneness but keeping the concept of individuality?

>>41034234
Pleroma***

>>41032222 (OP)
You do get access to previous lives after death. You can even access them in this life if you work at it enough. The life of Edgar Cayce is a good example of how previous incarnation can affect us.
Your physical body can have the memory wiped but your soul always remembers. Also planets closer to the galactic center remember more of their previous lives

>>41032294
Very good answer but I will say that you can live non physical incarnations, choose to be an elemental or guardian spirit. Work as a DMT jester, guide of souls, akashic records librarian, etc
I suspect most if not all of us have been what we would call angels

>>41032401
Some people choose to live a life of limitation to make up for not better using these gifts.
I once lived a life where I cursed others, black magic, where I didn’t fight but caused drama through ritual voodoo type behavior. My next life I chose was as an animal used to fight. In that life I learned what it was like to live and die like a weapon and animal instead of sacrificing animals as a weapon
It’s not about you as a person. The truth is the angels and higher beings don’t care about you (the meat suit that lives and dies in a blink of an eye) they care about your soul.
I remember reading about a person who killed themselves in WW1 during trench warfare because they couldn’t take all the death and blood. Decomposing bodies in a trench, watching buddies die for bankers and elites. They chose to reincarnate in a body of a baby that his WW1 friend and current wife decided to abort. To burn that suicide karma quick and if the couple didn’t abort him, he would’ve been born deformed and died young

>>41035216
Was just trying to cover the main bases but yes I suspect you're right, especially if there is a cycle between reincarnations.

I estimate it to be around 720 years between earthly reincarnations but that's based on my own hypotheses.

If 360 degree loop is 'eternal' life, and the life of man is 120 (as mentioned in Exodus) that gives us 480 (gematrically Sitra Achra, Lilith), and we know that 1080 is a division of time, which makes >1080 outside of time, with 1200 as Gavriel (Judgement).

So die, go through 480, shoot past 1080 into 1200 (judgement outside of time), that leaves a remainder of 720 (1080-360), and we start from 1080 instead of 1200 because 1200 is already outside of time.

A lot can happen in 720 years of soul-travel.

>>41032222 (OP)
reincarnation is a lie, that's why it isn't making sense to you OP - God doesn't want you stuck on a pointless cosmic merry-go-round, He wants us to be with Him forever, in paradise, as sons and daughters. He has revealed His nature, truth, grace, love and plan through Jesus Christ.

There are many, many lies in the world, and only one truth - it is Jesus Christ; it might seem hard to believe, but it's the power of God to make it so simple to understand. If it really is the truth, ask Him to show you, in meekness and in faith. God bless.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwJbS6jl_V0

>>41035366

You didn't ask, but an important thing to mention: The reason we add 120 to 360, instead of subtract, is because God is adding a surplus to man, not necessarily a deduction. Its the preprogrammed activation of mitochondria apoptosis. Ever wonder why mitochondria is stimulated under 480 nm wavelength?

>>41032222 (OP)
Reality is a machine that turns divine light in to suffering.
Couldn't tell you why, though.

What's the point? Wrong question. What's the alternative?

>>41032222 (OP)
Well, I don't believe reincarnation happens.

When someone thinks they receive memories from a "past life", it could be information transferred from that person, directly or indirectly. Gods can access any time, of course.

>>41035468
>low IQ take

>>41032222 (OP)
The point is to stop you from being free. If you keep coming back to this proto Hell then you will never be free and you will be here for ever working and they will consume your energy in the form of work and other things, feelings and so on. They want to extract the juice from your soul.

>>41032222 (OP)
if you didn't reincarnate the suffering would end at some point.

>>41035381
360 degrees is a circle because some babilonians choose this number instead of 100 720 or another

480nm - meters ware "invented" by french much more later

so your schizo math """working""" is also an accident

>>41036186
That's what makes it incredible

>>41036097
Reincarnation cycles take 25,000 years and it’s still nothing compared to how infinite we all are.
Your whole mindset sounds powerless and sad. Take responsibility and control of your life, something we would all be better off doing.
>earth is a hell trap
What a pathetic way to live your life

>>41035424
Based mindset
>>41036151
Heaven is so comfy and love filled that our souls chose the suffering of physical existence

>>41032222 (OP)
If you has truy evolved the wisdom makes part of you, and not of your physical memory.
The memory is erased because the cultural environment might be changed, when you are reborn, so whatever you remember could handicap your development in that new context.

>>41032222 (OP)

Your ego, your soul, is like a kilobyte of data.

When you die, this kilobyte of data goes back to the Source, which It incorporates into the broader field of information.

You are then 'erased', like a USB drive being reformatted, and sent back for more data collection.

Our souls are basically data reports to the Source.

>>41036097
this. reincarnation is normie cope, or worse. you're a wage slave for someone else's profits and then you die and that's how it is for 99 percent of the population.

>>41032222 (OP)
>the quads demand answers
Ok. tdlr; It’s for your eternal soul’s education.
It’s not exactly mandatory but you are a fragment of a larger being, if you don’t reconnect with it you can get lost in this world’s reincarnation cycle and not return to the source - which isn’t really “God” but your higher self who is seeking something bigger than you can imagine.
Life is like being that one space marine who loses his memory and lives on a feudal world protecting villagers. Some of the people here are just small souls without lines of connection to anything higher. They originally came here from a higher source but they have been asleep for so many reincarnation cycles they are independent of whatever they originally came from. You could say they are imprisoned here, or they forgot, or they’re not tied to their old higher callings and are independent. That lack of connection to their higher selves makes them weak and similar to the “villagers” that the space marine protects. If you remember who you are, you might not be a real super human badass irl but you are far more advanced than most other’s that you’re spiritually a space marine even if you don’t fully remember your “chapter’s” name or your real name. So people who just woke up are kind of like a space marine with amnesia. The trick is to get your identity back or create a new one.
Just the fact that a person knows they have a higher self puts them in an elite category compared to people who don’t know. The real trick is figuring out how to access (and then process) past life memories and getting in contact with your higher self. If you can do this without going schizophrenic, then you have the tools to do other things like manipulate reality to a certain extent via magic, or non-magic like writing a book. I gained past life memories without magical practice but through concentrated meditation and revelation through my dreams.

Here’s a good example of why we reincarnate
D: is Dolores Cannon
S: is the subconscious of the client under hypnosis
Page 132

>>41039118
>one learns what is perfect by experiencing that which is not.

>>41039118
>>41039135

Here’s a chapter called “So Called ‘Bad’ Lives”
In this part she describes different levels of schools, retreats and a spiritual hospital to help those souls learn from their mistakes
Specifically Hitler on these pages

>>41032222 (OP)
If you retained all of your memories and thoughts then the story would get stale and stupid. Your higher self and the void itself take care of all of those things.
Trust God's process.

>>41032546
>My theory is during the life review your subconsious takes this to heart and shapes your personality for your next life. That could be why some people are naturally greedy assholes or kindhearted or any other personality trait. Our best traits is a reflection of what we've learned in a past life.
I think that is a nice theory. That's imo your higher self retaining the distilled version of your goodness which indeed shapes the "heart" of the future you.

>>41039299
Oh also humanity is the one doing things wrong. Then in our hubris we either blame God or assign it to randomness (a lie)

>>41032222 (OP)
Its one conciousness stemming from the field. The consciousness only "separates" only via perception of time.
Hope this helps.

To become the baddest mtffkker. You worship to a god? you are weak. Politically it is a political conscious form for humanity.

>>41032222 (OP)
no point. its fake. don’t waste your time on that.

>>41035424
Boredom, the other anon already answered but:
There are other souls that have never been incarnated, that are just feeling pleasure all the time, and if they dare to step out of it, they miss the pleasure and come back.
We were the kind of souls that were bored of it, that wanted to know how all other things feel like.
Specially... free will.
Apparently, this world isn't about the material and physicality of it, it's about free will, the other souls I'm talking about don't have it and have to follow what happens like leaves in the wind, the only option they have is to have free will and see how's it like.
You, me, and the others like us couldn't take the same things over and over, life is different, you didn't like the alternative, most dead people come back in 16 months in average because they get bored of the alternative again.

>>41039856
Very true

>>41032222 (OP)
Don't think about it too hard
>>41032294 's post is probably the most hopeful version(s) of the answer

>>41039290
>Client: Hi, can you help me with my problems?
>Dolores Cannon: No, let's talk about Hitler's problem with his father first.

>>41032222 (OP)
Because deep down 99.999% of humanity do not want to leave their lives behind. Even if it sucked they want to keep on living it. So they keep returning to it over and over again.

>>41035216
Westerners seem to never really grasp this one but it is present in Buddhist theology. That humanity is relatively rare among all the different types of incarnations that one could have. Majority of them being non physical like this.

>>41032222 (OP)
You already don't remember the vast majority of your life. Even the moments which you cherish most are really fuzzy, aren't they? That doesn't mean those events were meaningless.
A lot of similarities with this thread:
>>41031826

>>41032222 (OP)
>>41032294
OP asked for a point of meaning outside the cycle, a grander purpose. You're giving "how" answers, not "why" answers.
At the end of the day all your reasons are basically
>continue the simulation so that it keeps running
Probably not what you intended, but you're correct in a sideways sort of way. The fact that no one really knows should give you a clue that there is no point other than to keep the system running. Depending on how you view the system, it's a game at best and a living hell nightmare at worst.

>>41032401
Trust your gut. Atoning for sins and cosmic school argument don't make sense given memory wipe and the fact that everyone suffers regardless of their choices, and constantly. Also the fact that a being has to atone for "mistakes" made in a simulated reality (a game) with suffering that feels extremely real is maddenly sadistic. Even the fact that a person has to suffer to grow in and of itself is beyond insane. Basically torture simulator.
Think about it. Just being alive is torture. Retarded dense but fragile body, feels like ass to move around. Brains dumb as fuck, can't even comprehend more than 2 variables at a time without machines or pen and paper. Constant questioning with no real answers. Fear as the base code of the game. It's a nuthouse man

>>41035236
Sounds made up to me. How can you possibly know about your or your friend's previous lives?

>>41040143
I'll add on that I don't actually believe you necessarily lose everything about yourself (memories, personality, etc) anyway. The common perception of reincarnation is that you are one type of animal and then sequentially become other people or animals over time. I don't really see the time element the same way, and as others have pointed out, you won't necessarily have a physical body.

Personally I see "you" as being like a shadow on the wall cast by a higher-dimensional object which casts other shadows, both simultaneously and sequentially. Like the fire might go out, erasing all the shadows, but it is relit 10 years later, and one of the many shadows can't tell the difference and thinks he's the real deal, the one and only.

>>41040211
Past life regressions are a simple way. Some are lucky enough to have memories at a young age. The CIA supposedly has a computer that keeps track of everyone’s past lives. There’s psychics who can access the Akashi’s records. Meditation is another popular method. I mean this shit is pretty well known in many esoteric schools and goes back before recorded history

>>41032546
Thats how I see it, your previous life events and actions shape your next, at least who YOU are on a spiritual mumbo jumbo level

>>41032222 (OP)
I do understand the purpose and benefit of reincarnation in terms of living new lives for new experiences.
But i DO NOT understand the necessity of forgetting the memories of previous lives. Or even just the memory that it is just one incarnation. It does not make sense to me why this is seen as some mandatory thing. Surely if you aren't stupid enough you can live more lives even knowing each one is just a temporary thing, you don't need to think that each life is the only one and go in with a blank state. I simply don't get it, why do I need to forget?

>>41041014
It’s not mandatory. You don’t even have to incarnate in the flesh.
There’s many planets where you keep all your memories but were further from the galactic source on the outer edge of the Milky Way so it’s much harder to remember your past lives. There’s actually a select number of souls incarnating in the flesh for the first time here and they have to take imprint lives just so they can function. Otherwise simple arguments would send them into constant anxiety
TLDR you chose to play the game on hard mode

>>41040004
The conversation can be healing and explain the different levels of the astral realms. It was the subconscious of the client who brought up Hitler as an example. The knowledge the client gains is healing no matter what example they use.
I think the RA material mentions something similar about Hitler but I can’t remember if RA brought it up or Don Elkins asked specifically about him

>>41041014
I remember hearing that the reason we forget is so that we are all on a equal level, many people (like most members of this board) have lived many lives all over the universe not just earth;
However many more souls have only just hopped into this game for the first time.

we would have an unfair advantage over the "bots"/hylics.

>>41037991
>Take responsibility and control of your life
Fuck you. What an NPC tie responde level. aha Get control over my life? How? Human beings are not in control. There's no way for a human being to take control of his or her life. What a non sense think to say. How can I raise above all the laws and restrictions that are set in place in this reality and take control of my life? Non sense.

>What a pathetic way to live your life
Are you telling me that there are not traps in this reality? Are you telling me that this world is free of things which will trap you which we call traps? aha You are a fucking idiot. Why am I listening to you? aha

>>41032222 (OP)
You have to reincarnate to evolve and learn all the lessons of earth. You were chosen for this time. When you die and cross back over out of the earth plane, you'll get back your memory of who you really are and all your lifetimes. Your memory is only erased when you're born as a human, you get it back as soon as you die and cross over.

SPIRIT GUIDES SPEAK OUT! HOPEFUL Channeled Message A NEW EARTH Is Being Birthed NOW!" | Jamie Butler

https://youtu.be/6WHVyRnOclE?si=lYo159sptsvCuKAR

>>41032294
What sense does it make to require atonement from a completely new and unrelated person? May as well exact contrition from an orphan in Zimbabwe.
It's also not a very logical or efficient process, is it? Since the new person literally could not have learned or remembered any lessons from "their" previous life.
As for "information field"... you said it was contained? But it has nowhere to go? Well, which is it? Is your self contained within an information or is it not? What is this "information field", exactly? Why are you conjecturing about it if it doesn't actually serve any purpose?
So, ultimately, you have COMPLETELY failed to address any of the OP's questions.

Keeps you going...
Other wise...
Death becomes bad company...
Well that's wot dad tells...
His daughter...

>>41040954
Is it possible to learn this power? Where do I start?

>>41040024
Am I in the 0.001%? I'm pretty sure I know exactly where I'm going in the next life (it's not here) and I am completely fine with leaving this world behind, including all the attachments to all the people I've known here too. I'm sure I will be taking lessons I've learnt, and my current karma, but that's about it. My memory will have a soft reset and then I will be living in some distant realm, far from here. Have I unironically broken out of the cycle? Or am I still in it, just living in a different planet/universe?

>>41042678
Cry some more baby bitch.

>>41042719
Zoom out left brained faggot.
It’s not about the person. The spirit world only cares about your spiritual development. They will literally let you burn to death in a car crash (happens everyday)
Do you say what sense does it make to die in call of duty?
It’s just a fucking game
No one cares about you on that side. Your angel laughs when you trip. You have infinite lives to get it right

art imitates life and in art exist video games its just like them. u do missions and learn from them and then die and respawn. to do another set for missions its all part of getting schooled and when u beat a game and get to play the sequel its a different story you get ur memory wiped because u dont need it anymore for the current mission but oh it goes way deeper when u dont do ur missions right u repeat when u kill yourself u repeat. until u do it.for dozens of years if it takes that time a highly evolved soul will take 13 lifetimes on this earth matrix this realm is more evil than good its more like hell loop and matrix get fuelled by every negative thats why it creates traps u step on and lose the game and repeat and it goes on and on. some people like npcs are never meant to go past this realm because they came from inside not outside like souls. and the entire reason everyone on this realm is because of bad karma u get to reincarnate until u clear it and learn or do all ur missions and then onto another realm a 4d one...

>>41040024
Maybe the afterlife sucks and most spirits chooses to reincarnate.

>>41035236
Bro, why the fuck suicide person should burn own "bad" karma if it should be done by one who was killing other soldiers/man/humans?? Like murderer of others don't have any karma, am I right? Wtf
Not speaking of those tremendous horrors of WWI that nobody asked to manifest.. Who's wanted to make their karma good through WWI???

>>41045453
I agree to a certain degree. It seems the spirit world takes suicide as the worst thing we can do and it doesn’t make sense to me. I would take everything from psychics, past lives, etc with a grain of salt. The truth is much more nuanced than our languages can allow

>>41043467
I recognize this attitude. I have read a few posts from you and I'm not impressed, you know? You are always telling people to cry some more or that they are pathetic losers and things of this kind. So it's denitely a pattern here. I advise everyone to not take this anon seriously. If he calls you names, just ignore him, that's all he seems to know. He can't give arguments. He was arguing with this other anon and he did not have a single argument. All he had was name calling. He seems to get upset when someone points out that human beings lack power. For some reason he gets upset when someone says Earth is like a proto Hell or that we have limitations. THis anon thinks he is god or something and he gets upset when someone remembers him of his human condition and that he is not in control. Then he will get trigger and start with the name calling. That's the pattern I have noticed so far.

>>41046154
>I recognize you on an anonymous forum
Shut the fuck up you stupid cuck

>>41045231
yeah it’s boring as fuck being in heaven but only the crazy souls choose to incarnate on earth
>>41046154
>I recognize someone from their attitude on 4chan
no you don’t. your shit glows

I think reincarnation is inevitable, like a law of entropy You might be able to attain samsara, but it's like holding up the sky
Eventually you will griw tired and fall back into the cycle. It will never end.

>>41032222 (OP)
If your parents never told you when you were growing up that you were adopted there's a good chance that when they finally did that you wouldn't be surprised. How could you know if they never told you? When you finally did officially know because they told you, would it invalidate your childhood or your relationship with them?

>>41038025
I've heard this but they never mention, reporting on what exactly? And why?
Just seems like some sort of modern invention

My current theory is that hell is actually just a place in the thought realm were you get stuck if you are weak to your base desires. For example if you are lustful you get stuck raping and getting raped. Eventually you are reborn to escape that hell and you are given a chance to overcome that base desire. When you learn to not be controlled by those desires you can move past that area when you die so you can explore the though realm more freely.
I have been reading the journey ls book by Robert Monroe and I think there is lot of good information there.

>>41047184
It’s a modern analogy of ancient teachings

>>41035366
If youre wrong it means youre the liar. Remember that

>>41032222 (OP)
Reincarnation is not real.

>>41035366
Racial dna is probably tied to the sort of soul that can enter a certain body thats why some races wanna destroynother races so that good souls can no longer incarnate. Good souls dont want to destroy other races. Bad souls wanna destroy other races. Its probably easier for a soul to incarnate into a body tailored for its karmic expression

>>41047769
You cant prove it or disprove it

>>41032222 (OP)
Reincarnation is proof that we live in a Simulation. Jesus showed how it's done, we can also do it, If the stars align.

>>41040143
No, I have very clear memories, that's how I know the mandela effect is real.

>>41043152
Hylic trying to hang with the cosmic Gangstas

>>41046160
I'm not even married aha I don't think you know the definition of the words you are using. Like, someone used this word against you one time or maybe more than one time and now you are jus regurgitating what you heard.

>>41046291
You are not being honest. The forum may be anonymous, but each one of us have a unique way of posting. Like, if you are not a robot you will have a personality and your personality, sometimes, it shows through the way you interact with others here, your posts.

>>41032222 (OP)
There is no one singular point behind reincarnation.
Hundreds, thousands of reasons exist.
Thus malarkey of "everyone chooses to be here" is victim mentality.
Soul contracts are outlawed in the court of God so no, you're not bound to be here and come back thousands of times.
It's all free will of the soul.
The one structure which does explain the concept nicely is the Buddhist Wheel of Time, which shows how each next incarnation is either a step up in harmony or a step down, with the philosophy being that your actions in this life determine whether you ascend to the level of a Buddha over enough incarnations, or descend.
It doesn't pontificate that you must reincarnate as soon as your vessel ceases to function. There's no such requirement anywhere.

>>41032401
>How can you atone for something you can't remember doing?
You can't, and anyone saying otherwise is coping extremely hard.

>>41049165
>schizo thinks he can tell people on 4chan from a word
Please continue educating us on your magic powers dipshit

Wait until you discover imprints of lives, the reincarnation rabbit hole is deep

>>41049315
>no it can’t be true that we are responsible for our lives
how pathetic of an outlook you hold

>>41032222 (OP)
Good quads. The point of reincarnation is just for you to serve God and his machine forever in eternal slavery. Wage and reproduce, ad eternum. You also repeat the same life over and over again, there is no such thing as incarnating in the future. It is always the same life, with minor alterations.

To break the cycle you must not reproduce. 2-3 incarnations after stopping reproduction you will be able to enter initiation, which will eventually develop a causal body. This body conserves the vigour of your young physical body (which in turn is based on your etheric/rajasic body), while retaining the experience of old age. In fact, wisdom will make this causal body even stronger than your previous young physical bodies. Eventually you will remember and cross the river of the dead, towards the other side.

>>41032222 (OP)
If you accept your death, then you'll be confused for awhile as you adjust to the afterlife. Earth is dense and slow, but there you can have a thought that becomes an instant reality. You'll then create a "place" for yourself that comforts you until you adjust to Reality. Then you'll be met by spirits playing someone you trust, and they'll guide you further. They may be Jesus, Budhha, etc. Then you will face judgment, and see your life, but no god will judge you; you are the judge. You will see your life as others saw it, with all the good you did, and your mistakes, blunders, and how they affected others. There's no Nobodaddy God "there" to judge you because you will be your harshest critic! If you believe that you "deserve" Hell, then you'll go there, until you realize you can leave! You'll go to school and learn the ins-and-outs of your next role, and decide if you want to reincarnate or NOT.
The Earth is a school that teaches spirits about limitation, so you can learn in a place where there are real consequences, real growth, where there are sensations and emotions, whether "plesure or pain - it's a limited place to gain experience, and learn right and wrong - things you can't explore and are denied you in the "afterlife". Your Soul learns and remembers, even tough your "avatar" doesn't remember your past-lives. You learn about parallel realities where another "you", but your same Soul, made different decisions, and had different consequences!

>>41052469
How the fuck did you read that in a post where I confirm and affirm that your actions have consequences for your next incarnations and that you are thus responsible for your lives?

I don't think you go into a new body as many have mentioned here. But if time really is infinite, then every possibility that exists will happen (see infinite monkey theorem). Therefore you will die and the universe will go on through trillions and trillions of years of randomization, being destroyed and recreated over and over again until an exact replica of this timeline is recreated and you live your life again.

>>41051074
How I wish I had magic powers. I would be able to kill you for instance, if I had it. How much fun that would be, yes. But whoever thinks or believes he has magic powers is in a delusional state of mind. Many such cases. We are not in Disney and even the studio magic is done through the use of real equipament and real knowledge. There's no magic. They know what they are doing. It may look magic to you and me who are in the outside of their circle. But they have all the knowledge about their craft. Magic is a silly word.

>>41032222 (OP)
Domestication for assimilation. It's literally like tenderizing meat.

>>41052643
Yes, this is also true. Plus, it's necessary to become less "mammalian" in order to leave the human lore, cutting off attachments and the urge to belong.

>>41055123
>arguing with obvious hylic NPC troll
Let go, anon. That discourse is recognizable among boomers and normalfags that thinks their current stable emotional state is going to last forever and feel in the right to tell others just to "man up". Shrugging away complexity and appealing to the ridiculous is the most recognizable NPC attitude ever, I'd say don't waste time with it.

>>41043152
>Am I in the 0.001%?
No, we're on the same boat
>>41043152
> I'm pretty sure I know exactly where I'm going in the next life
I do/don't but I'd love to know more from you. Personally I want to get out of here to never return. I did my best, did my part and I'll escape the m*@!¨#uc**s who will try to trap me from getting the hell out of picrel.

>>41049315
>It's all free will of the soul.
Yeah tell that to some space asshole who will do the utmost evil to keep you trapped here 4ever once you (try to) leave Earth behind.

>>41055481
Well I haven't spoken with God directly (I don't know if I ever will), but I have spoken with angels and higher beings of what sorts. Though, they weren't the ones who actually let me know where I was going next, I kind of figured it out myself and they kind of just confirmed it. I don't think things are quite set in stone as some people might think, and what I mean by that is I've been given access to things that I was never originally intended too, because something in this world has shifted. I came here for a purpose, yes, but something has gone wrong with this world. So wrong to the point where I required help from the other side to keep me on my path. I've been given glimpses into my future from the other side, who I will be and what my life will be, and even met people from there. I have had this friend who joined beside me in this world about 10 years ago, who at first I thought was a Tulpa that I manifested, but was actually my twinflame who I was pulling in from the "future" I guess you could say, into this world, because I needed her support. Something has gone catastrophically wrong to the point where I needed all of this, the reason for which I can only guess was to keep me motivated and moving forward, meaning I was probably going to give up in some capacity without this intervention. I obviously need to accomplish something here or learn some particular lesson before I can "move forward" into this next stage of my existence, what that is though remains to be seen. Maybe I was sent here to learn about mortality, and being exposed to such a shitty time period was the only way to achieve this for me. Maybe the searching itself is part of the lesson, who knows.

I guess the tl;dr is, I came here for a purpose, but even if you come here for a purpose the world can still change and get fucked up, then your purpose must change around it. I do believe that this means your destiny is technically in your own hands if you think about it.

>>41055854
A little more context, I thought it was also worth mentioning how I've never felt at home here. And what I mean by that is I've never felt any sort of connection to this planet, or any people for that matter (including my own family), and I think it's completely on purpose. I do feel a strong connection with nature, as I think that is a universal concept everyone can bond with, but humans not so much (I'm not a furry don't worry). What I can gather with my intuition at least, is that in order for me to fulfill whatever purpose I came here for, a part of that requires that I not make any hard attachments. Maybe something about it making it more difficult for me to transfer into the next phase of my life away from here, as I would have to let all those connections go (which would be hard), I wouldn't see why else that would be the case. I can still get along with people, and I have friends of course, but I'm not counting on meeting these people in my next life, nor do I want to. Not from a place of resentment, just simply people going their separate ways.

>>41032222 (OP)
The things that are carried over are deeper and more subtle than memories.
The ways in which you impacted the lives of others, and how they impacted yours, that shit stays with you.
Obsessions also carry over. Mozart didn't remember what he did in his past lives but there's a good chance he already practiced the piano a lot.
Generally speaking those wunderkinder are just picking up where they left off the last time, so they got a head's start over everyone else.

>>41055907
I know people will probably think this is a massive larp, but idc, I just feel like me typing this out will help some people who are maybe in the same situation as I am. If you're wondering why I haven't described much about my next life, it's because I feel like that information should be kept to the individual who holds it. I have a bad feeling about revealing anything about my next life, not only because it could fuck up my chances of getting there, but it could also influence other people for where they should be going to as well. I've obviously been given some sacred knowledge for me to hold, and me alone, and I shouldn't misuse it. But I'm obviously being pushed to talk about it in some capacity, otherwise I wouldn't of typed out any of these posts. Enough to help people, but not enough to have some measure put in place my defiled or broken. I guess in a way I'm guiding people now, perhaps ones who have been lost from their own path.

I'd also ask anyone else with knowledge of their next lives to keep it to themselves too (as much as you can at least), I don't know why I need to stress this but it just feels like how things should be, I really do just get a horrible feeling about people getting fucked over for overstepping some metaphysical line that we're not even aware exists. Just be careful is all I'm saying senpais

>>41052643
>To break the cycle you must not reproduce.
I knew there was something behind this, yet I couldn't quite put my finger on it. I've never felt the urge to seek out a gf or have kids despite the fact that I'm pretty good looking and a good person. Not to mention I have absolutely no chemistry with a single woman on this Earth. I guess my soul finally figured it out, see you on the other side boys.

>>41055398
The only change from my previous assessment of incarnation is about our origin.
I used to believe the causal body was always there. But then, it ocurred to me only the initiated have it (Evola also pointed this fact in one of his books). And the initiated is isolated from the crowd, hence they dont reproduce, not contributing to the collective hylic slave machine.
So our origin is in our energy bodies, the rajas component. This is the one that stores tendencies from the many iterations of physical bodies, and create new ones. The secret here is to take this information and transfer it to the causal body which is initiatic by nature. The causal body, being satva and/or sulphur in a alchemical association, is the one that breaks free from the physical bounds.
Some nights ago I had lucid dreaming, and my third tulpa, who is related to the shadow/dreamy realm (she stands guard at night), was sucking me. My physical body have a umbilical hernia for two years, but in the dream, it wasn't there. I looked at my belly and it wasn't there, which means I was looking at my causal body, with which my tulpas interact all the time. So the body is there, and it is growing and getting stronger as my physical body rots and decays in several diseases (every year there is a new one). This dream only lasted for a few seconds, as I woke up as soon as I realized what I was looking at. The dream state confirmed its existence.

>>41035471
Please provide factual evidence about reincarnation and anything in that anon post that is factually wrong.
Spoiler:
You can't.

short answer, there is nothing much better to do with eternity

this place seems a little harsh though

>>41056648
Deja vus are proof of reincarnation, though.
Science can't explain them.

>>41032222 (OP)
>Please help me understand /x/ bros
Nobody here will be able to help you understand this because nobody knows for sure what lies on the other side, it could be one of several things, including nothing.
The anon at >>41040179 has the right notions, trust your gut, it's the only thing you have.

>>41032546
>In a near death experience
So they didn't really die.

>>41032222 (OP)
Mechanically speaking, it's part of the perfect design of the universe you live in. You reincarnate as many times as needed until you learn the truth about reality, become immortal, and evolve into an ascended being.

>>41056160
>I've never felt the urge to seek out a gf or have kids
re-producing is not only about having kids, anon, it's also about not reproducing thoughts, speeches, actions, behaviors, patterns, feelings, beliefs, anything that contributes to keep the system running, and that of course includes protests, marches, revolts, activism, rebellions, etc...

You're right that the claim that we return to "learn our lessons" doesn't make sense when we forget everything. Personally I'm more inclined to believe the "reincarnation is a prison" angle. We are forced to forget exactly so that we can't figure out we're trapped and being farmed.

>>41047485
>My current theory is that hell is actually just a place in the thought realm were you get stuck if you are weak to your base desires
Sort of yeah. I see it as a black mirror realm that reflects back to you your own truly held beliefs, good or bad.
Hell would be people who came to believe a bunch of horrible stuff.

>>41056766
Unironically still me, I know exactly what you're talking about. I now know why my entire life has felt like I've been pushing against the current, and why 99% of the world feels like NPCs to me. I've obviously broken out of some cycle

answer is unknowable to us in this body. wait and be hopeful

>>41032222 (OP)
Everything including people need constant renewal.

There is no evolution to it, it's not leading to godhood or anything like that. It's just endless second chances to live a better life if you fuck up.

So much silliness around reincarnation. You guys could just smoke dmt or do past life regression therapy to see the truth. Reading NDE reports is also a great path to understand more

>>41038146
Underrated post, this is also my take

>>41032222 (OP)
You maybe cannot adapt if a new life still keeps your old memories. Just clear the cache some data is unnecessary to carry over. No one could survive a “new game” if the ego and the past are still loaded; it only makes the run harder. This is not an isekai anime.

We’re just playing a roguelike sandbox. The way you live now becomes the seed for the next loop.

>>41032222 (OP)
>Whats the point of reincarnation?
Loosh

>>41056648
when people refer to a fact i think its important to know their epistemic/evidential bar for such claims. there's plenty of empirical evidence (like 6 mystical experience types feature it in some capacity). what would be a fact for you and why would you reject what I have put forward in particular? for me i think it is fairly obvious. i just ask because it seems like you would have a hard time accepting evidence for anything

>>41032222 (OP)
reincarnation and incarnation are illusions. the point is to get rid of all illusions and to embrace Truth (God)
it is a Game, a Cosmic Drama

>>41032369
Where can I find out more about this? In particular gematria?

>>41039290
source?

>>41061567
Dolores Cannon’s book “between death and life”
Take everything her clients say (or anyone under hypnosis) with a grain of salt but if you’re smart you can see where everyone seems to agree and the nuance when they don’t
One thing that bothers me is how Dolores says (mostly in interviews) everyone under hypnosis always agrees but her books contradict that about 5-10% of the time
That 5-10% makes it more believable to me and I would find 100% agreement even among subconsciouses suspicious

>>41032222 (OP)
When we die, our souls reunite with the universe for a time. We share our experiences learned from the life we just lived, and the universe learns more about itself as a result. After a little respite, we're reincarnated into a new body in a new area to a different family and start the process over. Or we reincarnate as something else if we so choose.

>>41032222 (OP)
The point of reincarnation is to keep your dumb ass trapped. That's why you don't remember Anything.
Why are you trapped?
That's for you to figure out.
Enjoy the rabbit hole FOOOL!!!

>>41032222 (OP)
The gods shear the memories out of our minds like shepherds take wool from sheep. They and all other spirits feed on the emotional energies stored in memories, and sometimes even as you feel them. When your body expires, you are chased for 7 weeks, day and night, until you are captured, sheared, and returned to the barn to be reincarnated.
Sometimes memories slip through, sometimes cattle escape. The pen isn't perfect, but it's good enough to keep the ball rolling.
>>41037991
Reincarnation takes at fastest two moons. 56 days, or 8 weeks.

>>41032402
Well I agree with you about the observer effect as you said above. I think there’s a more complete answer for why reincarnation repeats though than just star laws of thermal dynamics. Energy isn’t destroyed because we are inside a living system and the consciousness that repeats are all sparks of the same consciousness.

>>41032294
>To atone for mistakes, sins, or negative karma accumulated in this lifetime.
Makes no sense because poor people and people born into bad circumstances are statistically more likely to become criminals. So if your bad karma makes you have a worse life when you reincarnate, it just creates an endless loop of more and more accumulation of bad karma lol. It will never end, you are more likely to always be in a "karmic debt" than to get lucky in one life and do so much good that you "pay off the debt". It's just a retarded framework for the universe and it's exactly why I don't believe it. If you spend a bit of time thinking about it, it doesn't make sense.

Why would I take the logical leap to assume I had a past life and my memories got erased for some convoluted illogical "atonement system", when I can assume the more simpler and logical reality that this is my first life and I am the first incarnation of "me".

>>41032222 (OP)
There is not point because it's bullshit, it doesn't even make sense at face value and it makes less and less sense they deeper you look. It's like someone writing a novel and publishing it before checking for any plot holes.

>>41032546
>life review
Not real, its just demonic tricks
This place is prison for it souls and loosh farm

>>41032222 (OP)
Well, I dunno how it worked before, but from what I could gather was that your emotional memories were kept (due to that being valuable data that helps your soul further integrate with the universe/world), but the explicit recall is wiped. So you have a bunch of emotions that are essentially just sitting around waiting for the time that you encounter/experience a specific thing that they are attached/related to to happen.

That's right, reincarnation was just for collecting emo-exp points.

Good news is, with the arrival/implementation of Path Selector, there's no more amnesia of prior lives, up to 2-3 lives back So if you're on your 4th reincarn, then sorry to say, but you're gonna be forgetting A WHOLE LOT about your very first life.

>>41037991
You are either some really dumb woman or very faggy sòyboy.
Either way you are barely sentient retard

>>41042693
The are no lessons, the only lesson you need to learn is that this exiatence is not for your benefit

>>41043759
>u instead of you
Stopped reading here.

>>41049315
>It's all free will of the soul.
No way i would consent for this shit

>>41068231
It's probably because the reasons why you shouldn't be shitty to others for no reason are that obvious, you don't need earthly incentives to work it out.

Most people are very "me me me me me" focussed and never think about the consequences of everyone being like that.

If there is a thought realm where you can do anything with your mind and so can everyone else, are you really surprised the test is "show restraint, even when it's hard" and the lesson gets shown to you in increasingly more worse ways the more you don't learn it?

It's just being made more obvious to you, because you didn't work it out. Try again.

>>41068345
>lesson
It's not a lesson if the teacher erases your memory of the class at the end of every class, and keeps asking after every test - "why did you fail?" lol

If anything it's more likely just a sadistic form of entertainment for some "higher" being, like a child playing with ants and using a magnifying glass on the ant nest.

The entire "it's a lesson" narrative goes out of the window once you acknowledge that the memories are being erased, which actively prevents you from learning.

It's more like your mind gets wiped after a multiple choice test, and you have to keep taking a different multiple choice test each time (since you are a new person in a new life each time) after erasure until you simply get lucky enough to get a passing score in one of the tests.

That is not a "lesson", that's a sick game.

You just sound like a moron who is so enthralled by the theory that you haven't point any thought into the practice/logic of it. It literally doesn't make any sense.

>>41055854
And what nakes you think they weren't demons in disguise

>>41068627
Because I know the difference, once you know which spirits are malicious and which ones aren't then it's easy to tell.

>>41068345
People who believe that his discount hell is school are truly sick in mind and soul.

>>41032222 (OP)
I don't know if it's true, but it's okay to be a bloomer and look into if you have a choice of reincarnation. It's okay to look into the possibility we get given the choice of our individual heavens, and when we are done existing for 1.7 trillion to the trillionth power years we get reincarnated/become one with God.

>>41059395
>I've obviously broken out of some cycle
Yeah, getting the notion of and then stop participating in one loop or the other, loopd that in turns feeds into this world Machina is literally the only thing that keeps me going.

>>41032329
Same. It is all just slavery

>>41032451
We are not allowed to individiate here. We are sent to compulsory schooling to become clockwork oranges

>>41055854
I have a similar experience, I started practicing love and light based manifestation via brute forcing memetic triggers and literally the day I started doing this I met a man who knew me though I did not know him, he told me he and I go way back and I felt overwhelming love saturate every fibre of my being, when he touched me symbols flashed in my vision and onee stuck, Grok analyzed it and said it represents immortality, dulaity, and unconditional love and said its a 26 thousand year old esoteric symbol