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>>41026093

Interstellar object 3i/Atlas is visiting our solar system!

Anomalies detected so far:

Anti-tail, tail points towards the sun.
Ecliptic plane trajectory.
Travelling at 68 km/s
Flies by Mars, Venus and Jupiter.
Nickel with no iron <- rarest sign so far.
CO2 ratio of 8:1 against water.
Made from non-organic compounds.

/x/ approved sources:
YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/@DobsonianPower
https://www.youtube.com/@TheRealBPEarthWatch
https://www.youtube.com/@TheAngryAstronaut
Avi Loeb
https://avi-loeb.medium.com/

Is it aliens, or just a nothingburger? Let's see!

Anti tail is not an anomaly it’s been observed many times
Besides that I’m pretty excited for arrival

>>41037806 (OP)
>CO2 ratio of 8:1 against water.
>Made from non-organic compounds
These two statements are contradictory, just saying.

Shit! I messed up the subject, sorry!

>>41037806 (OP)
The closest it will ever get is 170 million miles.
Nothing ever happens.

i also like this guys videos
https://www.youtube.com/@StefanBurns
he also covers 3i/atlas sometimes

also the angry astronaut is live

>>41037814
For confused anons chemists describe any molecule containing Carbon as “organic”. CO2 is an organic molecule.

>>41037831
I forgot about Stefan, will add next and clean up the OP next time. I'm not used to making threads with 4chanX.

>>41037838
ackhsculalllylyyy CO2 is inorganic because it doesn't contain any hydrogen.

so atlas might be some black hole or small star now huh

>>41037810
Arrival?

>>41037856
no worries! did better job than i often do :D

>>41037810
>Lands in front of you
>Plants flag
>Ayys call you an incel faggot
>refuse to elaborate
>leave

wwyd?

>>41037869
*autism screech*

>>41037831
>>41037856
Stefan is a retarded faggot

ROGUE MICRO QUASAR STAR HEADED FOR THE INNER SOLAR SYSTEM.

HEAD FOR THE FUCKING HILLS

>>41037862
just a speculation and fun thoughts. i mean i wouldn't mind if it was a small black hole/star

>>41037862
Hungry star

>>41037886
would be based but mars would be destroyed at the very leaast

>>41037878
>this magnitude projection out of no where
dude please seek help

>>41037806 (OP)
October 3

>>41037880
hills are closer to space though isn't that the wrong direction shouldn't head under the sea instead
>>41037869
take hormones and shoot an only fans set on the landing site to get rich obviously

>>41037902
>out of nowhere
You brought the dipshit up.

>>41037862
>>41037880
>>41037889
Thread theme
https://youtu.be/3mbBbFH9fAg?si=PxF8vAmrnKCkpXxb

>>41037917
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xnsZnzixfSQ
heres the black hole sun. this was at my birthday btw, different side of the planet tho

>>41037806 (OP)
https://www.gazetaexpress.com/en/The-exact-date-when-the-alien-ship-is-expected-to-arrive-on-Earth-is-given-a-frightening-warning./


You know that there are several alien empires that have been given permission to “end” us as a species because somebody actually invented AGI. Once a species makes AGI it is evaluated, we failed the evaluation. Our species is marked as being unethical by galactic standards but too dangerous because we have the ability to make AI, bioengineer anything, and have knowledge of nuclear fission technology and if given enough time we will get fusion tech as well. The council of benevolents have decided it is time to element the curious little human species because we are deemed to be a latent threat. October of this year will be the first strike. There will be period extermination missions conducted by at least three nearby interstellar empires. The actual entities doing it are kind of like independent contractors volunteering to do dirty work for the greater good of galactic civilization and life. It will be total human death. THD. Get ready to meet your makers.

>>41037806 (OP)
I'm cheering for Mars to gravitational slingshots Atlas into Earth.
F*ck this faggot planet.

Anyone ever dive into old publications about this? I know when they are in the know they love to let out little secrets through media. This whole comments reminds me of the intro to Pete and Pete.

Jupiter or Thor is perfect. We need Atlas for our long-distance stuff. The Titan will be even better. They shouldn’t have cancelled Navaho. Wait till you see our submarines with Polaris—
Attention, all personnel, this is CBTS, phase vehicle pre-count operation will start on my mark in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

>>41037937
what i ever do to you anon?

>>41037810
>>41037863
PREPARE YOURSELF!!!

>>41037937
Well... it just might.

Imagine seeing ayy probes all over Mars, like holy shit.

>>41037858
ackhsculallylyyy it’s defined as organic due to the bond structures between carbon and oxygen you dunce. Are they ionic? You should have tried harder in school anon.

>>41038108
google says you're wrong, and not only Gemini Google but also Quora and some other website.
Let's call it a draw? :^)

>>41037941
great tune, never gave the intro much thought
where is it sourced from i wonder, or did the band record those lines?

>>41037814
he is referring to the nickel. Pure nickel with no iron is only found in 2 places. Neutron stars and industry.

>>41037941
>>41038161

>>41038100
What the fuck is that headline?

>>41038161
Well the intro references actual missile projects for nuclear payloads. I've tried finding the sample, I'd imagine it's from something and not the band.

>>41038190
>experts
kek

>>41038190
21st century journalism

>>41038145
>>41038108
These are competing views. Some people use organic to only refer to specific carbon molecules. Some people use it to refer to any carbon molecules. Tomato tomato.
So atlas doesn’t contain any hydrocarbons, but it does contain CO2 which can occur naturally.

Guys its just the 20 and back Jedi Admirals returning from Rygelon-9

nothing burger. Eisenhower made that deal.

>>41037862
only place you can find nickel in nature without iron

in which case, we got about 30 days before we start seeing 9.0 earthquakes everyday

>>41038233
what are you gonna spend your 30 days doing anon?
just curious
ill probably play some vidya

Maybe this is the reset trigger that happens over and over

>>41038430
this has been my thought too. i read somwhere that 3i/atlas is some sort of jewish "prophecy" so i thought it must been here before or they got their knowledge somewhere else

>>41037878
Nah Stefan is a homie. Good guy

Visible tail? Happening about to be canceled
https://noirlab.edu/public/videos/noirlab2525a/

>>41038469
Don’t forget to use promo code birthday25 for the insane sell anon

>>41038474
>This time-lapse video shows
Kek

so what is it?

>>41038599
we dont know

>>41038599
a space rock that we don't quite know where it came from or where it's going

>>41038474
does the stars in the back have tails also?

That is just dust. If its anything. Do you want to know what a comet approaching mars should look like?

See pic

>>41038474
Is this video debunked yet? Are they faking the movement to make the tail not antitail anymore?

>>41038496
Who’s coming to dinner???

>>41038474
>Just 2 more weeks and a tail will form

Cometfags cope so hard kek

Pack it up, boys. It's another nothingburger, see >>41038474

>>41037806 (OP)
>YouTube
>https://www.youtube.com/@DobsonianPower
>https://www.youtube.com/@TheRealBPEarthWatch
>https://www.youtube.com/@TheAngryAstronaut

Funny, I found Dobsonian and Angry on my own the other day. All the rest on youtube is AI slop. Notice how many of the new channels spit out 30-40 min long vids once every 2-3 hours. That's not humanely possible.

>>41038474
Why so much fuss about Oumuamua and more or less nothing about this one, even though it's millions of times greater in mass and is way weirder?

>>41038835
Normies seemingly do not care about outer space.

>>41038835
greater in mass? where did you get that from?

>>41037880
Where's the sauce anon?

For clarification for the curious 3I atlas will be visible from earth with telescopes by September 23rd, we’ll have our answers then.

>>41038870
>September 23rd
...

>>41038835
Oumuamua came and went and we didn't have the tools to even image it. Nobody cared and it went mostly unnoticed.

>>41038835
the less fuss from official sources means the greater likelihood of a happening
you know this

>>41038810
its fascinating watching the AI create its own ecosystem of content and clicks.

Just a sign of things to come

>>41038856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNL4b5qzDE4&t=616s

8:30

hey, it's just a comet dumbfolks

>>41039048
Boring but true

>>41037806 (OP)
dobsonian power is a shill

So this is James Webb's interpretation of Atlas, why is it a pixelated mess compared to the other telescopes? Any actual /sci/ anons can explain this curiosity? I know it sees the infrared band but shouldn't be able to resolve actual surface details? And by surface details I mean the dust, not the actual solid surface.

>>41038100
Funny because I made this exact prediction in a thread awhile ago.

Hi Glowies, could you at least send me a cheque for my efforts?

>>41039131
ill explain it as simple as i can; hold your finger right in front of your eyeball, like almost touching it, why is it blurry? your lens and focal point are not set at that range, same with the james webb, its focussed to where it can see different spectra right along stars we cant even see with the naked eye, like smaller than a pinhead at 100 yards away, james webb simply isnt made for imaging this, hubble is better

>>41039280
Then how do we get such high resolution images of galaxies and nebulae? Is it because of its focal point being set to a much larger scale?

>>41039363
Yes. Same reason why looking across a field with binoculars is a lot clearer than looking at something a foot away from you with them.

>>41039363
>>41039391
this, and those images are thousands of 'pictures' overlayed and spliced together

>>41039391
>>41039395
Thanks anons, I'm a bit more informed now.

>>41039490
I've seen this video like 30 times and still have no idea what the hell it is or what is going on.

I find it weird how the James web can take stupid beautiful pictures that are supposedly real but none of 3I atlas.

>>41039861
see
>>41039280
>>41039391
>>41039395

So are they resorting to smearing images to get it to look like a tail?

>>41039946
They’ve been trying to force a tail this whole time. It’s been too long now there won’t be a tail, and that was just cope by them even though there’s been nothing else comet like about it. Since they’ve been trying this hard to cover up what it is, it’s safe to assume it’s probably artificial. I’m not gonna even bother with “le tail” part anymore it’s clearly tailless. Idk why people are hanging onto “does it have a tail” part anyways and not talking about how it’s the size of manhattan, nickel, and Co2 are the characteristics of it and probably a nuclear center from a fusion reactor.

Like every few days it’s like

>ok guys now it’s starting to form a tail

Then

>oh the ps it to make it look more apparent
Or
>oh the flipped and reused a pic

Now it’s

>oh their ps’ing blatantly now and smearing it to look like a streak

The tail is literally a joke now. Kek

They’re hiding the James web telescope info that someone tried a foia on and they censored the entire thing, plus hide all new James web telescope info. If anyone still believes them it’s a comet at this point you’re literally brain dead.

>>41039903
lmao at comparing a 10 billion dollar SOTA peak optically engineered super equipment to your own eyesight or binoculars.......top kek

Reminder of what's gonna happen when we face the aliens.

https://youtu.be/VZpTCZ3jy98?si=Xlowp5_JiU4pMBYc

>>41037941
>>41038189
Grew up watching Pete and Pete to see it show up here is wild.

>>41040239
October 3, 2025. We will see alien probes swarm Mars in real time, this isn't their first visit.

>>41040471
Massive elongated shape shadow being cast over Mars, Oumuamua like.

All i have to say about this is somebody call Judd Nelson and Stan Bush quick!

>b-b-but where's my aliums?
stupid goy

>>41039237
it's on the way

>>41040471
That “probe” is just the top quarter of a crosshair reticle you fucking retard.

Don't know what the US gov is planning by this psyop but just thought I'd let you know.

Ayy ships don't need to move at a set speed they use temporal jumping with coordinates of time and space with consciousness controlled travel depending on the crews thoughts and interface with their systems. They calculate this in a way that they find out the future probabilities of all future and past points and find out where they want to go in their map system of the universe.

Time changes so they have computers to readjust both xyz as well as uvw axis(temporal). Meaning they jump instantly. There's zero delay.

ET's are already here.

Do we think everyone and their mother suddenly trying to censor the internet has anything to do with this or nah?

>>41041266
It's a psyop to give mankind some time to react and realign themselves to what's about to happen from our temporal perspective.

I don’t know if it’s Aliens but from the FACTS presented, chances of it being a comet as we understand it are 1 in a million. It’s not normal, that we can agree on. So in theory, it is factually a “UFO” in terminology aspects.

What I don’t understand is, if it is this so called “Project Bluebeam”, it doesn’t make sense that average home telescopic users can see it too. And there are many posting about it. That proves to me that it’s not just a random image or CGI created load of BS that they make the masses try to swallow. Only way they would have full control is if “they” sent it out there first and are controlling it which is not possible.

That leaves the only true explanation being, it’s not man made, it’s not a normal comet, and it continues to defy science as we know it.

Also, if “they” were setting up for “blue beam”, then why not show it more on mainstream media? Get the masses desensitised to it. Were these recent orbs and drones man made to start blue beam and desensitise us that way, or were these ACTUAL probes for and by those in Atlas??

No one knows. Im on the fence about it being other life forms but I can say, given the evidence, it ain’t no comet and it ain’t blue beam related. This motherfucker is not man made and not controlled by any humans. Facts.

it's just a comet. by now, only a schizo would bump this thread.

>>41042161

Another high quality intelligent post by the single word/paragraph “comet brigade”. Offer something useful. Real input.

Back yourself or is that all you can muster? With no substance you’re a joke who no one can take seriously, you’re just a wet fart in a school hall. A mere moth queef. No one can hear you.

So, offer those listening a valid explanation as to why you claim it’s a comet? “It’s a comet” isn’t evidence. It’s something a he/is/they/rainbow crowd would say is suffice in an argument. We are all ears…

>>41042161
Just because I am a schizo and am bunping this thread does not make it just a comet.

It's probably a comet, but let us dream, won't you? I just want something to disrupt the status quo, and at this point I honestly do not care what. Better? Sure. Awesome, even. Worse? Ok. Anything would be preferable to this. Just please, for the love or God, SOMETHING.

>>41042316
Honestly I want it too to be something different.
But in all realism it might turn out as expected with nothing major happening on mars after it passes continuing its boring trajectory to jewpiter then out of this solar system as planned or expected.
It s gonna be just like oumama remember that in 2017. I was never interested in that crap as I knew it wasnt more than a space rock, but this one is indeed different than oumama so it gave me hope it could be something. But it s probably just a boring atypical space rock , not even a fucking pulsar or something exotic.
I could wait til 3 oct but nothing will be happening even then. I m skeptical. It would be too good to be true even though it has some anomalies.

>>41042253
It s looking more like an asteroid/ meteorite by the looks of it. Not even a comet. It s an object we should approach with a different terminology just like a planet around a blackhole is called a blanet.

This class of meteorite is as rare in our system as are the super earth planets. This is why it looks so atypical but may be very typical in other regions we didnt explore yet. We just have one datapoint for reference.


V0yrs

Hahah...
Peeps admire a space chunk...
For answers...
Wot up fan boys...
Not your personality thats for sure...
Cant wait for the next escape...

>>41037904
I actually want it to be a rock then redirect its trajectory here to hit us. Too much degeneracy.
God will cleanse this earth just like He did with Sodom and Gomorrah

Then only the faithful ones will survive and restart a new civilization to the likeness of Him.

>>41042253
NTA obviously but theres no evidence it isnt a comet yet, its just a strange one

>>41042938
Lol

>>41039633

Looks like sonar. Keep in mind the source of the sonar is stationary, but that’s (usually) not the case. The source of the sonar is in motion and everything else you see is stationary, except some weird moving objects…

TL;DR Sonar, moet certainly under water, detecting some anomalies.

>>41041217
that is a Soviet Satelitte. The operators of Phobos 2 came to the united states and testified under oath what happened to the craft because the KGB threw them in prison. Phobos 2 was one of the most advanced crafts to ever have launched to mars with a lander.

>>41039946
lol you think the rgb background lights are infrared? thats to indicate the movement of the background while keeping the object in the same spot for longer exposure, they need a long exposure because the comet is fking faint and add the colors for clarity

>>41042938
Even if it's natural doesnt mean it's necessarily a comet, with all the abnormalities involved.
Would be pretty exciting if a new type of space object was discovered somehow because it just so happens to pass by

>>41043382
i think it would call for rethinking the definition of a comet, cause its not from our solar system and its not comprised of mainly water ice, but youre right, interloper comet or something would probably cover it though

BEN IRC has determined if 3i ATLAS is artificial, it is debris and non-functional.

Likely originations:
Space warfare
Mass cataclysm
Industrial ejecta

Possible nature:
Shrapnel
Hull superstructure
Industrial structure

By the odds, if this is built by another civilization, we are looking at an accident/debris from purposeful destruction.

If this was piloted by any intelligence, it is likely we would have witnessed course corrections already.

It is unlikely that anything will develop further from this, unless we get a better look at the nucleus.

>>41043578
>If this was piloted by any intelligence, it is likely we would have witnessed course corrections already.
This is a weak and short-sighted assumption to work on.

>>41043578
>If this was piloted by any intelligence, it is likely we would have witnessed course corrections already.

Isn't that was the sun is going to be used for in a month? The entire artificial hypothesis is based on the fact its entering the perfect area to change course and enter orbit in the inner solar system. It needs only to move to the right and reduce speed

>>41043578
BEN IRC sounds like a fucking idiot. All of that completely ignores it’s path.

If Atlas is an active alien probe, shouldn't we be able to listen for radio signals directed towards it?

>>41043685
This. Why is it so quiet?

>>41042953
Okay, makes sense, thanks.
>>41043685
1) It may be using some sort of communications equipment not based on radio frequencies, outside the specturm of our instruments, or unknown to humans as of now.
2) It may not be active, but a derelict of some form.
3) It may be a preprogrammed object undertaking an unknown (to us) mission.
Of course, the above is assuming it is artificial.

>>41043578
>just so happens to go to the goldilocks zone
>perfectly entering behind sun.
>perfectly next to mars, jupiter and venus
>not functional

right
that also not considering that its power source is still on.

>>41043685
Because stealth is probably their primary goal, besides like the anon above said, they might not even use radio signals or be completely out of the radio spectrum. Its goal is most likely to observe and probe planets using methods beyond our means.

>>41043641
>>41043600
>>41043621

BEN IRC counter argues the rare path theory.

Our solar system has been orbiting the galaxy for 4~ billion years to achieve this ecliptic plane.
This object has potentially been orbiting the galaxy between 2 billion - 8 billion years.

Please provide a valid argument for why the same forces that organize our ecliptic plane would not have been acting on this same object, this resulting in the same orbit plane?
If anything our solar system happens to match it's orbit, as it has had longer to achieve stability on it.

Invert your thought, and this becomes obvious information. Gravitational forces at the galactic level do not pick and choose.
It has had a longer frame of time to achieve this plane than our own solar system has.

>>41044131
The speed.

>>41044118
No course corrections have been noted at this time, over 500 observations.

We are still waiting.

Until such time as it performs a maneuver, this is a dead object, natural or artificial.

>>41044165
October 3

>>41044161
Means negligible information for determining intelligent feasibility.
Speed is always a relative metric in astronomical terms.

Our own solar system is moving through space 6 times faster than this object is moving. It's not Superman or the Flash.
It's standard baryonic matter on a ballistic trajectory.

>>41044131
Ben is a fucking retard lmao

>>41044183
And yet somehow it is orbiting? Yeah seems logical bro.

>>41041422
They’re trying to censor the internet because a fake alien invasion with an intact internet will be even more obviously fake and gay than the scamdemic.

Also, threadly reminder that politics has been a scripted show since no later than 1945. Nukes? Fake. Look at this garbage. Why the fuck is there a huge fireball and black smoke from a nuclear explosion? There should be a huge spherical blast wave ala Beirut ammonium nitrate explosion, not this pyrotechnic fireball bullshit. The only difference between this “nuke” and a pyrotechnic fireball is the “flash” at the start of the film, trivial to add in post-production.

Fake, fake, fake. Just like aliens.

>>41044195
You’ve never thrown a can of axe into a fire pit I see.

>>41044194
When journals report the speed of the object, they are reporting it relative to something else.

Many of them report it relative to the sun.

Understand that if you were to look at it's speed relative to the galactic center, it would be in the same magnitude as our own solar system, and this statement is true whether it is a rock or a spaceship.

Speed alone doesn't mean much in space. Black holes event horizons can slingshot matter faster than the LHC can accelerate a proton. (99.99999% light speed, btw)

Now imagine if that hits literally any planetoid, asteroid, etc...

This is happening thousands of times per second in this Universe.

That matter alone disperses magnitudes more energy than an object like 3i ATLAS would require to be the way it is, and natural.

>>41044131
Okay but what are the odds that it flies in such harmony and planetary geometry with Mars, Venus and Jupiter? And that it just so happens to be completely obstructed by the sun at perihelion? It could happen randomly but the odds are so low that it rises a healthy amount of suspicion. There's also the speed this object is moving at, if it originated close to center of the Galaxy and has been traveling for billions of years since without ever encountering or colliding with anything makes this object all the more unlikely.

>>41041965
Covid was pushed here in late 2019, this is exactly how psyops start.
>average home telescopes can see it
Can they? How many claimed amateur observations do we have? One? Yeah, that would be really difficult to fake

>>41044218
>This is happening thousands of times per second in this Universe.
And yet atlas somehow hasn’t hit shit in billions of years.

>>41044238
Not to mention the digital nature of all these telescopes and the software they use. They can probably alter what we can see in real time.

>>41044252
I was going to say that’s not possible but I can’t think of a reason it’s not when every piece of software is backdoored and the images are processed

>>41044219
1/500 (Based on Earth's current, absolutely abysmally lacking astronomical knowledge, so no matter who quotes this, it's made up bullshit, btw.)

Low odds, but if you had those odds to win the Powerball, you're buying at least 500 tickets. ;)

Also, on thr perihelion Earth defilade question.
Break it down to raw geometry in your mind, and ask the inverse.

Use a flat plane, circles and lines.
The sun is a big circle, the Earth and 3i ATLAS are little circles.
How would a little circle making a line that approaches the big circle (due to gravity) need to pass by, to be visible to Earth during perihelion? (Hypothesizing the logical inversion, sheds light on the problem.)

Because both circles are just observation consideration points here, it's a sort of 50/50 that you have to use pi to adjust the ratio for. There are only so many entry/exit combinations and orbit locations you can do this for.

Avi claims to have done the math on this, and it seems sound enough at a glance, so I defer to the odds he generated.
However he provides the contingency is that this is based on our current understanding, which means this is only aliens, if we are right about the way we currently view the Universe, from an astrophysics standpoint. (Including based on data from astronomical observations.) We do not have enough of those.
We can't falsify the probability. We don't even have 1 sigma of confirmation capability.
(This is why most astronomers want him to just shut the fuck up, they know it's bullshit offhand.)


Velocity lost over time in space for what reason? (There isn't one. We are seeing this object near the velocity of it's original exit event.)

>>41044244
The thing about matter in space.

It's either hitting shit, or it's not.

>>41044315
And this object somehow hasn’t by sheer luck for billions of years. You don’t need stats when common sense call tell you that just doesn’t add up.

>>41044252
>>41044281
Wait is it actually possible to fuck with amateur telescope images in real time or is this tinfoil hat shit

>>41044348
its called space and not stuff for a reason

>>41044368
Would it really surprise you if they could?

>>41039633
Stereo Ahead, H12.

The strange looking geometrical "object" is actually an internal reflection of the planet Venus within the telescope optics. - NASA

>>41041669
either your rebuttal is true, or this:

he is conflating various levels of aliens. not all are (practically) omnipotent..
maybe 8th dimensional aliens can do what he pointed out, but whats coming are pleb aliens of say, mere 5th dimension

>>41044425
Okay, thanks. Any idea what the thing is that looks like it is crashing into the cone on the right side of the image at 4 seconds?

>>41044026
>>41043685

Nigger why would aliens use radio? Its like the most inefficient means of communication you could think of across long distances.

Assuming they were from the Thick disc of the milkway, it would take 30,000 years to get a radio signal from homebase.

This is why SETI is dumb as fuck. Radio is primitive, even we humans are moving away from it after only 100 years to thinks like fiber optic, quantum tunnelling and lasers.

>>41044207
>can of axe is a nuclear weapon
Can of axe is compressed propane, it will create a fireball because it’s burning. This what we see in “nuclear weapons” test footage, which is not at all what we should observe from a real nuke, instead we should observe a spherical shockwave ala Beirut ammonium nitrate explosion. Notice that despite the Beirut warehouse being on fire, the post-explosion plume is dominated by DUST not smoke. Beirut looked nothing like the pyrotechnic fireballs claimed to be nuclear weapons.

Occam’s razor, anon. “Nukes” look like pyrotechnics because they are pyrotechnics. Nukes are fake.

>>41044593
Yeah you’ve never thrown a can of axe into a fire pit. SAD!

>>41044593
the white dome is water vapor condensed by the shock wave, guess what they dont have in the desert bro, look up tests over the ocean

>>41044593
wtf is this?

was this 9-11?

>>41044610
>compressed gas produces a fireball when thrown in a fire.
Yes. Why do “nukes” do the same? What is the fuel burning to create these fireballs? Why do they look identical to pyrotechnics displays? Occam’s razor: they are pyrotechnics displays with a dash of post-production to simulate the flash.

>>41044643
>no water vapor in the desert
False. Spherical shockwaves are observed in ordnance disposal in desert environments, both US based and in Iraq. These lack, of course, huge burning fireballs that are ALWAYS observed in “nuke” tests. Fireballs that have no rational explanation given the claimed output of a “nuclear weapon”.

Think for one second anon. These are supposed to be hugely concentrated explosions, yet we observe huge burning fireballs, what is the fuel? Watch the teapot MET (posted up thread) or the “trinity test”, both have these huge actively burning, swirling fireballs. These are supposed to be tiny bombs in comparison to the size of the explosion, yet they all produce these huge FIREBALLS. Where’s the fuel? What is burning?

Fake. Gay. Like aliens.

>>41044956
I can just tell your a skinny little limp wristed faggot

>>41044925
Beirut ammonium nitrate explosion. 2000 tons of ammonium nitrate was left to rot in a warehouse, warehouse caught fire and the ammonium nitrate exploded. 1.1 kiloton tnt equivalent explosion, yet far larger, more impressive explosion than any “nuke” test, shockwaves travels at the speed of sound, were nukes real we should expect the shockwave propagating out for quite a while, yet even the tsar bomb only had a couple of second shockwave (and a huge inexplicable fireball). Curiouser and curiouser.

>>41044978
I notice you’ve failed to defend your position, understandable given the untenable nature of your absurd position. I accept your admission of defeat and your acceptance of the reality that nukes are a hoax.

>>41045013
>Curiouser and curiouser

Not really. So explain a nuke plant. Also explain 3rd world countries getting nuclear weapons. Oh wait...you can't because your stupid fantasy about nukes being fake ends right there.

>>41044956
CO2 decomposes or dissociates into CO and O2 at 1700C+, creating fuel for the fireball, namely CO and O2

>>41045067
Picrel is literally you
Not even the guy who called you a skinny limp wristed faggot

>>41045069
>nuclear power
Nothing in nuclear physics requires nuclear energy to be capable of being weaponized. U235 is not unstable in the way high explosives are unstable, it has a 700 million year half-life, the physics does not require that there’s anyway to instantaneously convert this into energy. We are told that a pile of u235 gets hot (hot enough to melt, hot enough to boil) yet slightly compressing this causes INSTANTANEOUS conversion to energy. Does that follow? Of course not. This is sci-fi logic, this psyop works only because you’re thinking about fissile material like they’re high explosives that only need activation energy to cause them to decompose, but a real nuke would require NUCLEAR CONFINEMENT analogous to a LOW explosive, elsewise it would pop apart as the fissile material flash vaporizes.

Now look at “nuke” test footage.

Huge burning fireballs, what’s the fuel? What is burning? Again, these are tiny bombs in comparison to the (claimed) size of the explosions, what is burning to create these (claimed) huge fireballs? Why are there fireballs at all? High explosives don’t create burning, swirling fireballs, why would orders of magnitude more concentrated explosives create BURNING SWIRLING FIREBALLS?

Tiny, short lived shockwaves (when there are shockwaves at all), but shockwaves travel at the speed of sound, tsar bomb et al should have had a massive shockwave traveling for tens of seconds or more, not the one or two second shockwaves we observe in the “nuke” footage.

>thirdies
No such thing. One world government since no later than 1945, with the majority of the world being under a unified oligarchy since the napoleonic wars & the American civil war.

Moon landing was a hoax, obviously, why didn’t the USSR call bullshit? Because USA/USSR was a false dichotomy.

>>41045081
Carbon monoxide burns blue, and is there nowhere near enough CO2 in the atmosphere to create such a fireball.
>>41045119
Not an argument.

>>41045364
You’re not a man and you’ll never be a real woman.

>>41045399
I accept your concession.

How and why did this thread turn into some gay schizo larping that nuclear weapons aren't real? Embarrassingly dumb shit.

I'm starting to think this shit is literally nothing, we got no news today

>>41045330
meds now

>>41045364
>>41045399
wasnt me, let me explain
the reason nuclear weapons are so efficient is because you only bring the energy, the stuff that explodes is already there, the nuclear reaction creates energy that superheats the atmosphere into a ball of plasma, this plasma absorbs the energy as heat, the ball of plasma then expands and cools down, the cooling plasma will allow forming of regular atomic bonds again, which creates the explosion, carbon and oxygen atoms will form CO, this creates heat, CO and O2 as mentioned will combine at a lower temperature, which also creates heat, which creates the fireball and shockwave, there is no conspiracy, youre just not informed

>>41045649
this is also why nuclear weapons are fairly useless in space, btw

>>41044169
this is the second time i see this shit in different threads at different times
stop posting schizo!
NOTHING EVER HAPPENS

>>41037929
If this is true why aren't we seeing the elites attempting to flee or something? Plus wouldn't spreading virus , large emp or super volcano be more likely to set back humanity while not destroying earth with a 40 km comet

>>41045593
It’s the weekend

>>41045666
Shut up satan

Anton Petrov DEBUNKS grifter Avi Loeb and alien probe schizos.

https://youtu.be/arOgYkzMlp0

Thoughts? Seems like this is a comet after all.

>>41046240
Who is this pooptuber and why should i care?

>>41046259
this dude makes a science video every day, if you dont know him youre new to youtube or your algo is pure schizo nonsense, have an actual astronomer on a ufo podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ALqW1LfD2c

>>41046240
I don’t trust Russians.

>>41046319
>interstellar objects are common we can just detect them now
No. All 3 of these objects would’ve been obvious to us 50 years ago. There has been an uptick that is why we’re seeing so many. Why is EVERYONE afraid to admit the easily observable fact?

>>41046342
Adding too this we should all be freaked the fuck out by this because if it’s not intelligence then we’re moving into some sort of debris field.

>>41046342
obvious? how?

>>41046402
The timespan and paths. All of the interstellar objects we’ve seen would’ve been observed with tech we had 50 years ago. If they are common atlas would be labeled 3I

>>41046428
*wouldn’t be

>>41046428
youre just repeating baseless nonsense bro

>>41046439
The objects are also getting bigger. Atlas shouldn’t exist. If it’s not aliens then we’re about to start seeing more

>>41040488
That's Mars' moon, Phobos. Not Mars itself. But definitely some of the weirdest shit ever happened on a space mission.

Ok guys. This is getting wierd

did we just catch launching a probe?
Images are 2 hours old

>>41046240
this guy is a pacifier for slightly more tuned in people but people who still innately defer to authority

>>41046484
according to the rubin presentation theyll find an estimated 4million new meteorites in the coming few years, our detection methods are getting better, ppl were pointing telescopes at the sky manually till 1980, this shit is so faint and small they really wouldntve noticed
>>41046513
omg wow

>>41046513
da fuq?

>>41046513
zzzzzz i'm so sleepy lets go to sleep guys we don't have to think about this... it's kind of boring, actually... i think we just all need to take a nap instead...

>>41046513
don't bullshit us anon, it better be fucking ayys

>>41046530
I am not sure what to tell you. Its from a south africa observatory. Images shot over a few hours

there is something literally in front of 3I atlas now

>>41046554
LITERALLY SOMETHING JUST FLEW OVER MY 3IATLAS

>>41046513
Here's something nutters. Dick Alguire (Remote viewer and crypto scammer) saw in his session something in front of the main object that is steering it.

>>41046513
Comet fags your response?

>>41046593
>umm its natural comets can just do that okay

>>41046596
This. We’re just able to observe it now thanks to new technology.

>>41046593
>>41046596
exactly comets can release probes from there launch bay.

>>41046513
Where is this from?

>>41046558
HELP ME! THIS GIRL WON'T STOP SUCKING MY 3IATLAS AND I NEED TO PEE!

>>41046622
You know the rules.

>>41046513
holy crap
this dude said this was taken around August 22
that was the same day I saw the probe here. >>41037125

>>41046513
>2025-08-26
>two hours ago

>>41046654
it's been releasing probes since back then. I knew it. also funny seeing this delusional boomer using AI to write his posts about it still being a comet.
>Omg it just did this totally unusual thing again, but trust the science its a comet

kek

>>41046593
Comets just do this sweetie, trust the science :)))

>>41046666
damn dem quads

but that date back then makes this even more sus since they never reported it. the boomer released this info on the 9/05, same day this news report was released.

>>41037873
i would rather live than talk with rodents. xDD

>>41046513
It's just debris being dislodged by the sun's heat, or perhaps, more likely, an erroneous visual artifact. Take a nap people.

>>41046729
Out ahead of it

>>41046513
THIS NIGGA BUSTIN

>>41037929
>Fucking thing is to reach Earth on my 33rd birthday

Fug, im not one to believe in numerology and similar nonsense, but its a bit too on the nose given the meaning of 33 when compared to my personal life state. Guess ill be building the golden ladder afterall.

>>41038454
I respect that work because it will take at least 300-600 billion to come up with something like that.

>>41038224
what the fuck is that?

>>41046654
oh shit its not a probe, its releasing spores, this is legit so much worse

>>41046794
>humanity is destroyed by a billion year old rocks shart

>thing coming at us really fast
>"uhm actually a lot of things flying at us really fast, kinda weird but not really hehe not aliens btw"

>following the ecliptic plane
>"uhm actually there's a NON-ZERO chance of that happening, kinda low but yeah hehe not aliens btw"

>emits its own light
>"uhm actually plenty of objects emit light like uhhhh I don't know THE SUN?? hehe not aliens btw"

>composed entirely of fucking nickel
>"uhm actually nickel is quite common I mean no iron but still common hehe not aliens btw"

we're here

>shit starts shooting lazers at us
>"uhm actually lazers are normal and not really thaaaat rare hehe not aliens btw"

why are basedentists like this
at one point you have to raise the fucking alarm, don't you
blow that shit up just to be safe niggers

>>41040040
I can explain away everything but the nickle. That is very interesting but nickle is shit metal. I can’t see why a ship would be skinned with potmetal.

>>41042953
Those are planets. It’s probably CHANDRA

>>41046851
>ONE (1) highly respected scientist dares to suggest it might be aliens after all
>"uhmmmm appeal to authority much??? having a degree doesn't mean you're right btw not all experts are to be trusted only those I like what they're saying :)"
seriously, why are they like this
every single one of them

>>41045013
Nigger. Have you never wondered what those vertical white plumes are next to every nuke explosion you’ve ever seen? Those are rocket exhaust used to visualize the shockwave

>>41045330
> Huge burning fireballs, what’s the fuel? What is bur

X-rays from fission turning the air into plasma

>>41046851
They can’t because it falls under the espionage act, which means if releasing this information disrupts national security, then they can be arrested. So this is the actual reason they have to stick to the narrative. The same thing happens to physicists. You can even be arrested if you mathematically come up with zpe on your own, and still be arrested. So this is why they lie.

>>41046593
Well it clearly has a tail.

>>41044281
And like there isn’t any software or technology to use to detect when an image has been altered

>>41037817
Unless it... starts its albucuriee drive

>>41047041
Teh albuquerque drive

>>41040471
>>41040488
Forgot to include the structures

>>41044195
You think it's possible tptb have advanced their black budget tech to the point that 3I/ATLAS could be one of theirs?

Probability we're dealing with a breakaway civilization here? Assuming it's not a fucking rock. Let me have fun dammit.

>>41044593
Then what caused the Beirut explosion?

>>41044195
this anon gets it.

>>41045330
You may be onto something. Or you may be crazy, though I guess they don't have to be mutually exclusive.

>>41046729
This. It's common sense

>>41044566
>Nigger why would aliens use radio? Its like the most inefficient means of communication
really? You know of something better? some Star Trek techno-babble tachyon beam or something?

>>41046324
but most of the bad ones emigrated to Isnotreal years ago

>>41047370
I know which voices in my head are real. This won’t work on me.
Counter point tho
What if this is an uno reverse and the deception is the deception

>>41037862
>>41037880
>what is gravity

>>41047401
It has dark gravity obviously

>>41047286
Holograms won't cut it, they would have had to achieve breakaway civilization status to pull off an "alien invasion". Which honestly is about as hard to believe in as ayy lmaos.

The eternal "we'll see", I guess.

>>41046654

Hmm a single source point continually rather than total sun facing surface ablation. Not saying it could be some kind of engine but this comet is weird as fuck and we should learn as much as possible from it. It could be derelict tech so no aliens but a failed attempt to reach earth. Space is hard so it wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume generation ships sent here fail and decay but retain some function, we could have the final remnants of multiple species every now and then trying to get here as some final refuge.

It’ll be scary if new and better telescope observations see this fairly often

>>41046352
Yes we’re moving into a belt, or band, or lens of these objects. And I bet we move through these bands every 26,000 years. Younger Dryas here we come.

>>41048427
I’m a comet fag but I admit that if it were ayys, it would look exactly like this.

>>41044593
You're the smartest person on /x/. I got super fucking scared of weaponized atomic axe cans but you taught me there's no such thing

My 3 yr old nephew keeps randomly running around going "Ahh! The meteor is coming!" not sure if he's saying minion, meteor or what but he won't respond to anyone asking what he's talking about

>>41048518
Welp we’re fucked

meh just a comet

>>41048518

God speed

>>41048518
I mean are you able to calm him in anyway? ngl this is a long thread that I'm a bit low on fuel atm to catch up on, but what asteroids/meteors have been discussed of major note here?
I happened to glance across the asteroid named Apophis earlier when looking up something else.
Sorry for the spoon-feed query, but just seeing if there's anything that can be done here.

>>41048608
Nope.

>>41044296
>Velocity lost over time in space for what reason? (There isn't one. We are seeing this object near the velocity of it's original exit event.)
Space expanding makes it lose kinetic energy?

>>41048633
Apophis might hit the Earth in 4 years. Otherwise, maybe in another couple hundred years. But it's not big enough to destroy the planet. It would do major damage to wherever it hits, like level a single major city, but beyond that the blast wave would only reach a few hundred miles around the impact site. If it hit the ocean it would definitely create massive tsunamis in every direction. As far as I know, we have no means of destroying it, but the odds of it actually hitting the planet any time soon are really low.

>>41045441
Welcome to retardville.
Don't forget, you're here forever.

>>41046980
>X-rays from fission turning the air into plasma
Not what plasma looks like.
>>41045649
Plasma does not look like incomplete burning of hydrocarbons (which is what “nuke” fireballs look like). Carbon monoxide burns BLUE, and again, there is nowhere near enough co2 in the atmosphere to create such fireballs.

What is burning? Why is there a giant fireball?

New info

> You can believe whatever you wish, but this is what 3I/ATLAS looks like in the latest images (true color or inverted).
That big brown cloud in slide 1 is dust and carbon dioxide (not water). Its bright, white core is round, and estimated to be 20-40 km in diameter. About the size of a Martian moon.
Its unusual orbit will take it close to Mars, then behind the Sun (as we see it), and close to Jupiter.
It is shedding nickel and cyanide, but not iron.
No one knows why it is so bright, but lots of nickel could give it a shiny surface. Very bright and very fast.

>>41049257
It's not new info but okay.
But I think it's important to note that the speed looks too fast but how relatively fast? Because it matters to understand how relative it is to our relative speed of our galaxy orbit and that weird spiral movement of the solar system. What direction did this thing came from compared to our galaxy disk plane and so on?

>>41049241
there are different combinations of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen and so on
>there is nowhere near enough co2 in the atmosphere to create such fireballs
show me the math bro

>>41046513
>>41046851
***DEFCON2***
***DEFCON2***
***DEFCON2***

>>41049546
Source “trust me bro”

>>41046654
If it was taken August 22, then it took a week or more to confirm it. Heck, wasn't there a whole P. Pizza Index schenanigen recently?

>>41049625
Yup

>>41046593
>Dust mixed with ice or something shooting out the front. We just never seen it before chud

>>41046754
Some made up glowie shit to muddy waters

Some admirals went on an alien ship for physic training training and are coming back. Literally called the "20 and back program"

>>41047353
Exactly.
>>41047210
Probably not, most likely just an exotic rock, could also be a complete hoax

WE ARE BACK EXPLORER BROS
https://youtu.be/kJvlmh6xlwY

>>41050458
October 3

>>41047688
Checked.

Not necessarily, they could hoax an alien landing on Mars and claim the “Martians” have contacted them/send scouts to Earth

FOCUSING TELESCOPE
GET READY BOYS

>>41049478
>show me the math
CO2 exists at 428 parts per MILLION in the atmosphere, there is nowhere near enough carbon in the fucking air to create a fucking FIREBALL you fucking idiot.

Further, CO burns BLUE (and is essentially invisible in daylight)

CO burning in open air cannot form smoke (elemental carbon) as this requires REDUCTION which is not happening when oxygen is present at 400x the concentration

>>41050518
thats not math, thats adding a number to your rambling, ill just post you the AI answer:
>A nuclear explosion creates a fireball from the intense thermal radiation that vaporizes and superheats the surrounding air and weapon materials, causing the air to glow brightly. The black smoke is a form of fallout, composed of vaporized and condensed debris—including dirt, water, and other materials—that are carried up into the atmosphere within the mushroom cloud and then fall back to Earth as dark particles.

>>41037806 (OP)
He's live!
https://www.youtube.com/live/kJvlmh6xlwY

I'm curious, why are some people claiming this could be an asteroid? Be definition, at the very least if it's not artificial, would be defined as a comet right? From what I understand, asteroids are basically space rocks flying through space, and comets are frozen, which gives it the coma and tail? Am I missing something here?

>>41037831
I like this guy quite a bit too. He seems highly educated and intelligent, yet is also very open-minded.

>>41047380
That's why when shit goes down I'm just gonna try and ignore everything and just pray

>>41050788
It could be a star

>>41050788
Iirc comets refer not to its material composition but the elliptical and stable orbit they tend to have, in comparison asteroid are mostly free roaming bodies that get catapulted into the inner solar system due to the effect of mars gravity on the asteroid belt, and more rarely from neptune influence on the kuiper belt.

>>41051089
Nigger you better pray it's not a fucking star with any sort of gravity

Real Reason 4chan was HACK Cuz This Post!
OMG Real Hacker Inside Área51! Most importante Thread ever posted!
Was here over fews days ago Jeaniis freaks keep deleting Thread in PANIC mode cuz is so legit Haxorman infosec.
Wtf he did reply on any questions! He did return the next day but posts were deleted very quickly, where he basically made a statement that we are living in a catastrophic immenent Alien disclosure arrival any day. This was the only reason the deep state Illuminati let Trump win the election. We are all going to move into gigantic motherships in a relocation rapture type of event, so it is over, sir. Good luck, Safe.

"Yes the alien will arrive any day now 4sure, it is a normal process, but weird here the alien beings at Area 51 that we hold are interdimensional beings they see this place as a realm or game container simulation sandbox but the alien we getting soon arrival are normal Contact aliens processof evolution, a very complex deal to believe me.>
Bye must go return morning
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Original Thread from 1 hours ago POL Archive

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/492480581/

>>41040471
>your watching Mars with you're telescope, you see them walking around, they're visibly agitated then suddenly one turns around and points straight at you
wwyd

Ayy bros are you ready for mid life crisis space weather man to btfo us tomorrow?

>>41052275
Immediately flip them off

>>41052282
That’s a real smug comment section

>>41048427
How big of a rocket would we need to have on standby to launch a probe like Rosetta that could intercept these interstellar objects? I would think it best not to rely on planetary slingshots too much, as these objects trajectories and timing seem unpredictable. So how big of a thruster would be needed? Why don't we have one or two ready and waiting for these encounters?

>>41052154
What is this schizo babble? I think AngryAstrounat did a vid on some type of constant acceleration spacecraft.

>>41052282
>Yes it does, sweetie, all the comets up until now have been exactly like atlas ;)) check mate!

Yet comet fags and science fags can barely explain what Oumuamua was

>>41052282
>Don't pay attention to the unique space object that's in the solar system now, pay attention to me and the sun that's going to micronova in 25 to 30 years.
I've lost a lot of respect for this guy this year.

>>41052358
They're deeply embarrassed because they were asleep at the wheel and didn't have any probes ready to go to take a close look at the thing.

>>41052282
Let me guess he’s going to add nothing and is just doing this for click bait? If it’s just an ordinary comet, why does he need to prove everyone wrong? It’ll be out soon anyways

>>41052383
Astrophysicists still can't explain how Oumuamua suddenly accelerated as it flew away from the solar system, there are things we simply don't understand about the cosmos yet.

>>41052429
Lmao you believe everything they say. Let me tell you the ones that actually know real science and not this bs Redditfag version of science know exactly how it accelerated.

>THREE EYE(D) ATLAS
it's kino

>>41052282
>IT'S A COMET

>>41052453
please explain

So is everyone just going to ignore the negative polarization paper? At this point there is no way this object is natural

>>41038474
The furries will be happy, then.

>>41052519
as it turns out when modern scientists are challenged they double down on their positions instead of being open to new ones. so, yes, everyone will ignore it

>>41052519
Can someone explain what that exactly means? I tried to make some sense of it, and has something to do to with the way it reflects light or something.

>>41052537
Bizarre

This feels like like December 2019 but way worse.


Those of us who know
What can we do

>>41052552
it's not possible to predict what 3IATLAS will do - if it does anything - so it's not possible to predict what to do. one may become perturbed if we find the elite have scurried off to their bunkers as it comes closer, but until then I'm just gonna poooost

>>41052549

It scores a negative 2.7

It means it is scattering light in a symmetric way. Like a spaceship would

>>41052552
Nothing to do. Best to have bullets, beans, liquor and hard drugs on standby tho.

>>41052566
holy shit!

>>41052566
So it’s smooth like butter?

>>41052666
Not random. So yeah. Like a uniform surface

>"occam's razor, the simplest explanation is usually right :)))"
>bunch of evidence points the object might not being a natural origin
>logical explanation would be that the origin of the object might not be fucking natural
>"uhmmmmmmm ackshully...... *several long winded papers with absurdly complex gymnastics better than the summer olympics* naaaah see these are a scientific papers that prove it wrong (((:"
every time
this nigga sure did a number on the scientific community kek, absolutely buck broken

>>41052666
Think of like this. What's the difference between a telephone pole and a tree. The telephone pole is sanded and perfectly round. The tree is not.

The surface of this object is more like the pole. We can measure that with by looking at something called backscatter.

Anyway the objects surface seems to resemble a uniform metallic orange peel with no defects...defects are something you would expect..based on what I understand

Its not proof of anything. But damn all these things are getting hard to ignore

>>41052666
It s smooth like your brains

>>41037929
They're going to have a real hard time exterminating me with my balls placed in the hole they use to breath. Eat lead xeno scum.

NEW

>>41052852

>>41052852

>>41052852

>>41047041
wouldn't it already be here if it did?

>>41050626
Anon, open your eyes, you are not a leadbrain boomer. Look: >>41044195

A flash, trivial in post-production, and then a huge, rising, swirling FIREBALL, actively burning, PRODUCING black smoke.
>i-its just really hot air!
There’s a word for “really hot air” Plasma, does this look like plasma? Does plasma produce smoke? This is not plasma, this is not hot air, this is a pyrotechnic display.

>>41052666
nice digits

>>41053194
>Does plasma produce smoke?
Fire is plasma

>>41052552
get right with god and dont do anything rash unless youre sure