Thread 41048520

Hello, I'm a skeptical person and I'm visiting /x/ to ask about why do you believe in the concept of soul.

For me, it's contradictory how most people define their soul as their consciousness. Let's pretend a soul exists, you die and there is an afterlife (what other purpose does a soul carry?) and you appear in heaven/hell/whatever. How do you appear as?

Are you the 83 year old man who can't get off a chair without assistance? Are you the mangled person who died in a car crash? If not, what then? Are you free to select your form? Do you retain all of your memories? Your memories are in your brain, not your soul. How would that work?

The concept of a soul doesn't withstand inspection, it falls apart because it's undefined and more like a coping mechanism. As a figure of speech it works, everyone knows what soulless is, but as a concept for human beings, it's just a loosely defined form of existence that doesn't make any sense.

The concept of a soul is one of those universally believed things globally. Every culture has some idea of a "soul".
Specific unknowns regarding the soul aside there are things you can know.
1) The thing I just said about every culture on earth believing it exists for what reason?
2) The fact we use most of our energy daily on thinking and contemplating, which evolutionarily makes no sense.
3) That things like souls are paranormal is not proof they do not exist, paranormal just means outside of scientific explanation.
Unless you think science is currently complete, it's certain there are things outside of scientific explanation and thus the paranormal is a certainty.

>>41048520 (OP)
here you go, as a skeptic you clearly are aware of math, as well as capable of some degree of knowledge transfer, so this link should be sufficient to answer all your questions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_theorem

>>41048520 (OP)
>why do you believe in the concept of soul.
The reincarnation stories. NDEs might easier to be written off just because the brain is now confirmed to be alive for up to an hour after death, but the reincarnation stuff Dr. Jim Tucker had looked into is much harder to explain to me.

>>41048520 (OP)
Spirit is the uncreated substrate of being: the very substance of "I Am".

Soul is what Spirit creates.

Body is the sensible appearance of Soul.

You are Spirit inhabiting a perspective that is individuated by Soul through mortal life.

Souls that are saved from mortality are redeemed and immortalized in heaven by Christ, the salvific agency of Spirit.

Unsaved souls are recycled or discarded, the Spirit within returning to its whole form as the One.

The world of bodies is a temporary shell -- an illusion that generates ever new soul-perspectives.

>>41048520 (OP)
A local separate software system performing tasks in limited hardware connected to a cloud,
Doesnt exist but you use it every single day.
Kek, materialsist.

checkmate

>>41048520 (OP)
i don't know. maybe we can't know. not until we're already dead at least. the real question is why do all the people here claim to know the truth? why are they afraid to admit that they don't know the answers? are they even smart enough to know that they don't know? souls and consciousness are allowed to be mysteries. are you 100% confident souls don't exist? i used to believe that it was also just a cope, but then i did some introspection and realized that that's only a guess. are you open to the humility of realizing that there isn't an answer you can grasp yet?

>>41049342
To the extent that we can know anything, we can know that we are aware.