Thread 41068761

Hello /x/.

Ask me anything about concrete astrology. I will also show you, how, the elite use the planet's aspect to make a terror attack like 9/11 or the Arab spring (2010)

We shall also study great criminals, riots, artists, philosophers, musicians, ect.

You are welcome here.

Sideral vs tropical
Obviously sideral is better since its what is observed in the now
But touch on this topic plea

Let's start with the planets, a quick and brief of their powers, positive and negative

· SUN
· Good: Vitality, Confidence, Identity, Creativity, Leadership
· Bad: Arrogance, Egoism, Self-Centeredness, Showiness, Pride, tyranny.

· MOON
· Good: Nurturing, Intuition, Emotion, Receptivity, Comfort
· Bad: Moodiness, Oversensitivity, Clinginess, Indecision, Laziness

· MERCURY
· Good: Communication, Intellect, Curiosity, Adaptability, Wit
· Bad: Nervousness, Criticism, Dishonesty, Indecisiveness, Sarcasm

· VENUS
· Good: Love, Harmony, Beauty, Attraction, Diplomacy
· Bad: Vanity, Indulgence, Laziness, Possessiveness, Superficiality

· MARS
· Good: Courage, Action, Passion, Initiative, Drive
· Bad: Anger, Aggression, Impulsivity, Conflict, Brutality

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The Social & Generational Planets

· JUPITER
· Good: Expansion, Luck, Optimism, Growth, Abundance
· Bad: Excess, Overindulgence, Exaggeration, Carelessness, Wastefulness

· SATURN
· Good: Discipline, Structure, Responsibility, Mastery, Patience
· Bad: restriction, Fear, Limitation, Pessimism, Control, death, nightmare, karma

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The Transcendental Planets

· URANUS
· Good: Innovation, Freedom, Originality, Awakening, Rebellion
· Bad: Unpredictability, Rebellion, Eccentricity, Disruption, Anarchy, Revolution

· NEPTUNE
· Good: Inspiration, Intuition, Compassion, Spirituality, Dreams, Divinity, Sacrifice
· Bad: Illusion, Deception, Escapism, Confusion, Victimhood, fanatics

· PLUTO
· Good: Transformation, Power, Regeneration, Depth, Truth
· Bad: Control, Obsession, Destruction, Manipulation, Compulsion, rape.

>>41068774
Don't worry I use sideral.

Books to read for the sceptics
1/2

2/2

>what are the good things about my chart?
>will I ever be happy?
>what should I do to be happy and feel free?
I have money, time and comfort but I'm unhappy and I feel restricted. I want to finally feel that I'm alive and have fulfilling live.

>>41068820
Right now Jupiter will be conjuncting my Mercury and Sun and trining Pluto. What kind of opportunities are opening for me?

Now, let's start with 9/11, an easy one. I will not use the houses, because it is obvious.

For those who don't know what is a house in astrology is : It is the combination of planets, and zodiac signs in a particular field of life.

Now :

Saturn, the planet of death, rigidity, limitation was in the constellation of Taurus, who, is the constellation of materials wealth by excellence.

This same Saturn, is in opposition (angle of ±180°l against Pluto, who, is also a planet of destruction, chaos, when in opposition, or square (angle of ±90°). Also Pluto, is the planet of wealth and money, because in mythology, Pluto (or Hades) is the Lord of the underworld, so he controls every gold and diamond who are under the earth.

This is the only big aspect to explain what happened in the 9/11.

The Elite, uses astrology, to make their plans and to "fit" with the influences of the planet, to control them.

In the east, we can see Leo, rising, with the sun on it. The sun is in a square against Saturn and Pluto.
The Sun represents the King, or any leader. And America was the leader here on earth.

>>41068820
Hello and welcome, are you in sideral anon ?

>>41068864
All I know is that I prefer whole sign.

Is there any chance you do personal readings? Doesn’t have to be too in-depth. My luck has been very low this year. And I’m low on hope in general. I do believe in astrology.

Any advice is appreciated as to how to get on track, considering my chart

This is so exciting! I've been trying to learn more about astrology.
Could you please explain how to interpret transits?
What is the difference between tropical and sidereal?
How much impact do lunar zodes, Lilith, etc have? Should I include or exclude them?
I've been trying to learn more about my chart and have felt quite lost lol.

>>41068890
Could you please upload a shittier quality version? I could almost read it for a second.

>>41068761 (OP)
>be george w bush
>september 10, 2001
>bin laden calls
>says he's getting cold feet about the attack
>"we don't need your help, osama. we'll use the planet's aspect"

>>41068895
Attached the sideral chart of mine for giggles. I downloaded this version to compare against the other later

>>41068911
Edit: thanks for the gold kind sir

>>41068881
Me too, well according to your birth of date, in sideral, so with the true position of the planets , you are not Cancer but Gemini. Look at pic rel, this is the sun in Gemini (Gémeaux in French) with Mercury (Mercure in French) in this same constellation.

Please, to avoid long posts, seek what is a Gemini character, and tell us if the interpretation of your nature is true or false, based on %, ex :90% true.

>>41068895
>transit :
You need to learn the aspect : conjunction, sextile, trine, square, opposition.
>Sideral or tropical
Sideral is based on the true position of the heavenly bodies
>lunar zone, ect.
Keep only the 9 planets to begins, the rest is expert/master mode.


>>41068938
In queue. Add the date and the time please, so it will be easier for me.

>>41068761 (OP)
What would a conjunction between Saturn and Jupiter look like in the 9th? Asking for a freind.

>>41068761 (OP)
Are you readings charts ?

>>41068942
Please use :
Geocentric
Sideral
Whole sign
Placidius

And come back after, so we will decipher your chart

>>41069005
A controlled expansion, and luck in the sphere of philosophy and religious matter.

>>41069036
Yes. What do you want to learn from yours?

>>41068858
Arab springs now. For thoose who don't remember, because sandnigg*r, it was a season of revolution in the Arabic world. Now let's see the position of the planets when it happens.

1/2

As a sidereal astrologer, how do you contend with the fact, that you aren't even using the correct position on the heavenly bodies?

Started around Dec 2010 and Jan 2011. Tunisia first.


>The Arab Spring began between December 2010 and January 2011, starting in Tunisia. It was a series of anti-government protests, uprisings, and armed rebellions that spread across much of the Arab world.

From an astrological perspective, this period was marked by the influence of three major planets: Pluto, associated with upheaval and profound transformation; Uranus, governing rebellion and revolution; and Jupiter, representing expansion and growth.

These three planets formed a square aspect in the sky—an angle of approximately 90 degrees—which is considered a tense and dynamic configuration, often associated with conflict and major change.

At the time, Pluto was in the constellation of Sagittarius. Sagittarius is traditionally associated with philosophy, religion, and long-distance travel. On its negative side, it can also manifest as uncontrollable and erratic behavior. This dual nature is why the ancients symbolized Sagittarius as a centaur: half-human, half-horse. The human half represents intellect and higher philosophy, while the horse half symbolizes raw instinct and an undisciplined nature.

Meanwhile, Uranus was in conjunction (an angle of approximately 0 degrees) with Jupiter. A conjunction blends the energies of the planets involved. Here, the rebellious, revolutionary energy of Uranus was amplified and expanded by Jupiter.

Furthermore, Pluto was in a square aspect (±90°) to Jupiter. This created tension between the transformative, chaotic power of Pluto and the expanding force of Jupiter, exacerbating the widespread instability.

Finally, both Jupiter and Uranus were in the constellation of Pisces. Pisces is associated with the collective, the masses, and the common people, suggesting that this expansive revolutionary energy was directly impacting the populace at large."

>>41069155

>I'm a tropical fag, who prefer to trust what the other says, with many "calculation" without looking at what the real sky is.

My positions are just because I use a real time app like Stellarium to see if the positions on the chart are true.

So gtfo with your low IQ arguments.

>>41069194
You dodged the question, created a strawman, then proceeded to justify your own position on the strawman you attacked me over--trusting an 'app' as I trust the 'others' (which is just another 'other' you dolt). How can anyone trust your guidance as an astrologer, with the degree of bullshit you spew?

9/11 is my DOB. As a gift bless my chart with Knowledge.

>>41069291
You are Leo, then, not Virgo. The sun was in the constellation of Leo at your DOB

Read anything on the internet of Leo sign, it is you, yourself.

Avoid wrath and be kind to women

what can you say about my one? and is there somewhere I can learn more about astrology? you talk about houses and all, but I still don't understand the compass thing myself.

also, opinions on vedic astrology?

>>41069391
Vedic is sideral astrology, let me check yours.

>>41069391
What is your DOB please ?

>>41069058
Hopefully these are correct?

>>41069434
Hey anon, can I get a reading on mine after this other anon? Any advice? Anything for the future?

>>41069450
Perfect:
Now the aspect and their orbs and colors. I use Astrology Master on mobile.

See pic rel

>>41069066
How can I be the best version of myself with my chart? What do I need to look out for?

>>41069498
I’ve forgot my pic

>>41069434
8/8/03

>>41069472
9 June 2001.
You are Taurus, pic rel, the sun was in this constellation at your birth.

Learn about Taurus people, it is you.

Calm your anger, stop trash talk, manipulation and dominion over the weak. Be honest in all your ways please.

Anger can make you die of a heart attack.

You can achieve great goals and great and big "revolutionary" dreams if you master your inner deamon.

>>41069505
>>41069502
I need an "approximately" location, please.

>>41068761 (OP)
8/16/2000 DOB

Attached is my natal chart, any advice would be appreciated, going through difficult times.

>>41068790
I am convinced that the positive aspects of planets are illusory and that all celestial influence is "spiritually carceral" in nature.

>>410695191
^ it (didnt attach lol)

>>41069519
(It didnt attach lol, here it is)

>>41069523
I need an approximate location please

>>41069507
Damn... I liked being Gemini :(

Now seriously, thanks Pyr0, really appreciate it

>>41069511

sorry.

8/8/2003 11:30am near alessandria, italy

>>41069520
Why please ?
>>41069541
Np, did I get right about your cons ?

>>41069478
Thank you for the recommendation and your patience with me. I was having a time trying to figure out what you were using. Downloaded the app and adjusted settings to match, and this is what we got

>>41069549
Oh yeah, totally. Since little I had a bad temper and it hasn't go away I think, it's just that I eat up all the courage and anger I have from people around me, and that also checks out I might get a heart attack from it because I don't have a healthy way to take it out.

When I was a kid I used to be a big bully, got into therapy, got the same treatment and here I am. I've been able to at least know how shitty I was and I'm pretty self aware, but man, it's really hard not being an asshole with the kind if shit I'm put through.

I'm curious, is there a deeper reason why I have to be "honest on my ways"?

And also I wanna know if I have some similar aspects with some famous murderer or something. Or maybe some good famous guy, this one to maybe get inspired and get what you mean that I can achieve great things lmao

>>41069478
Thank you for the recommendation and your patience with me. I downloaded the app, adjust my settings to match, and this is what I got.

>>41069549
>Why please ?
I felt it in a dream. The stars fix your fate in a very limiting way and prevent you from being free. The point of astrology should be to escape their control.

>>41069596
>>41069549
In any case I'm pretty sure the rose-tinted view of astrology that people have is mistaken.

Let's analyze Michael Jackson's birth chart.

He was a Leo, a sign of the fire element. This placement suggests he was born to be a king, to command the stage, and to create spectacular shows—a talent evident in all his music videos. Leos often possess a innate passion for being in the spotlight and for performance.

In his chart, we can see many trine aspects represented by the green lines. A trine is a harmonious angle of ± 120° between two planets. This aspect represents natural talent, ease, and flow; it's like a train moving smoothly on its rails, symbolizing the destiny the person is naturally equipped to fulfill.

A key aspect is Saturn trine Venus.

· Venus, in its positive expression, governs beauty, art, and music—anything that is delightful to see, taste, smell, and hear.
· Saturn, positively expressed, represents discipline, structure, hard work, and mastery.

This trine suggests a powerful ability to discipline his artistic talents (Venus) into a mastered, enduring form (Saturn). He didn't just have talent; he had the work ethic to perfect it.

This harmonious aspect is well-supported by his Sun conjunct (an angle of ~0°) Mercury in Leo.
· The Sun represents one's core identity and eternal spirit.
· Mercury rules communication, expression, and the voice.

A Sun-Mercury conjunction in the dramatic sign of Leo grants a powerful, charismatic voice and the ability to be a magnificent communicator and performer—a true "king" of expression.

Finally, we see Uranus trine Saturn, which is a highly favorable aspect.

· Uranus, in its positive form, brings sudden innovation, revolution, and a touch of genius that is entirely new.
· Saturn provides the discipline and structure needed to ground and master that revolutionary energy.

This aspect gave him the unique ability to take radically new, Uranian ideas (like his iconic dance moves and groundbreaking music videos) and discipline them with Saturnian precision until they were perfected, changing th

>>41069548
Checking

>>41068761 (OP)
What am I supposed if my zodiacs are all satanic?
Gemini sun scorpio moon Leo rising (Satan in personality database)
Snake zodiac
13 numerology
33 weeks premature

>>41069511
03/23/2004, 5:45 AM, Oceanside, NY

>>41069583
>I'm curious, is there a deeper reason why I have to be "honest on my ways"?
It is a counter to avoid manipulation over others. Because manipulators are liars, they won't show they true purpose, they will tell half truth and twist the words to dominate and manipulate their victim. IA can help you by giving you good advice to get away from your bad behavior.

I recommend you to do some Yoga and Meditation, appreciate other without judging, and forgive. Bad energy can never solve problems, but increase them, and make a karmic bond that you will pay for it in another life, here on this shitty planet

>And also I wanna know if I have some similar aspects with some famous murderer or something.
Yes.

>>41068761 (OP)
>>41069664
Should I follow the path of Satan to find God
If so, which branch of satanism is the best?

>>41069689
I really appreciate all these advices, I've been told to maybe get some movement going and I inscribed on a local gym, but I suppose Yoga or Meditation is more appropriate.

Thanks a lot <3


>Yes
Okay, shitty way to formulate my question lol

Is there any famous figure, either good or bad, that I share a similar chart? So I can at least have an idea how having the same pros and cons can manifest, how they manifested on them.

>>41069548
You are Cancer, see pic rel at your birth.

Avoid insults and any rebellious spirit, also, try to be more pragmatic, because you can be in the mood of illusion.

Seek anything about Cancer sign on Google, theses people highly value family.

Master illusion in term of love, and you could have a beautiful romantic life. You can be a master of strength and vitality, also, you have revolutionary dreams that can change your life, but please master illusions. You can also be depressed sometimes.

AVOID DRUGS AT ALL COST, PLEASE.

Please tell me if I'm right.

>>41069664
Checking

>>41069673
Checking.

>>41069664
Need date of birth and an approximate location. And don't worry.

>>41069763
4 june 2001, 11:56 am, Sinaloa Mexico

>>41068761 (OP)
What's gay secks like?

>>41069745
damn, ive been always told i was a leo.

what do you mean by mastering illusion in terms of love? or by illusions in general?

and by avoiding insults and any rebellious spirit, should I not insult people and should i stay away from people who rebel?

and about drugs, i guess i was dependent on weed for a while once i became free but i dropped that addiction after a very bad experience. i dont drink often either or smoke tobacco.

thank you so much for taking your time and please help me understand

>>41069535
Weymouth, Massachusetts

>>41069673
You are pisces. Poissons in French is Pisces. See pic rel.

Lurk about pisces people, it is you.

Stop being erratic and rebellious, you can have a big and beautiful wedding or any love story if you master some illusions about women. You may have a bad Karma and/or a bad relation with your father or any elderly people. But this bad Karma will build you up.

In terms of what is hidden, occult, ect, keep seeking, this is your zone of comfort and you shall find hidden truth. Keep your secrets.

>>41068761 (OP)
Can you predict my death from my 8th house ?

>>41069805
Attached is my astrology chart

>>41069729
We will see when I will decipher criminals' charts. 4 major planets are responsible for this behavior:
Mars
Saturn
Uranus
Pluto

When we look at your chart, they are linked by red and black lines, it is the bad influences of them. Criminals have the same, but in a different manner.

>>41069765
Adding to queue.

>>41069782
>what do you mean by mastering illusion in terms of love? or by illusions in general?
Don't dream,.accept what you see without starting any dreams.

>and by avoiding insults and any rebellious spirit, should I not insult people and should i stay away from people who rebel?
Both, consider people as handicapped one, love them, you will see the difference.
Do Yoga and Meditation also.

>and about drugs, i guess i was dependent on weed for a while once i became free but i dropped that addiction after a very bad experience. i dont drink often either or smoke tobacco.

>>41069805
>>41069808
Need date of birth and approximate place of birth.

>>41069804
Does this apply if I’m a woman?

>>41069873
>>41069745

it makes sense, basically i should accept the world and stop idealising so much.

and yes i do meditate and do something akin to yoga.

thank you. i wish you all the best in your future endeavours.

>>41069873
>Need date of birth and approximate place of birth
06.06.1995
Wolverhampton, UK

>>41069584
Ok good.

So you are Scorpio, seek about Scorpio people the pros and the cons. With experience, they can be very, but very bad people, but some can be great saints with a deep power of introspection. They love sarcasm and what is gory.

You may be someone who, don't know what he want.

You had bad stories with women, isn't?

Besides these bad aspects (you may be powerless or unlucky when doing things), you have a lot of influence and willpower, you also have the ability to see big while being disciplined. You can be great in accountability.

>>41068761 (OP)
(You) will (not) read my birth chart because no one will (not) do it.... I've tried 3 timess... nothing... so have this instead :D

Peace!!!

Lmao these are some transparently surface level dogshit readings even for this place
You do you OP but I worry for people seeking anything from this

>>41069765
You are Taurus and your ascendant is Leo.

Please Google these stars to learn more about you.

You seem to be very, very chaotic, (and your live is also, chaotic with a lot of trials, your karma is punish you for what you have done in past lives.) and manipulative.


You must master these bad habits to unlock your true self, because you can master your dream, and achieve big things with a touch of revolutionary energy. Please don't do this to do evil

Do Yoga, forgive and love people.

>>41069919
That's a major shift from everything I knew, wow. How eye opening, thank you. I wouldn't consider myself a saint, but I feel I fit more into the latter than a bad person. I do love sarcasm, haha.

I do struggle with a lot of inner conflict, especially the last year or so. I have felt very stuck, and unsure how to move forward.
>Bad stories with women
Ehhh I hesitate to mention, but I'm a woman, majority of my longterm relationships have been with men, but my current partner is a woman. Majority of my 'core' relationships have been full of deep lessons for myself, and the ending of them are often catalysts for major changes. My current relationship has taught us both a lot. As a young child I experienced some pretty heinous events, at the hands of adult men, so you're correct to a degree.

My luck certainly isn't great, and do struggle with feeling powerless a lot; I want to help, or make changes, but often get frustrated at feeling I'm too small to make meaningful impact.

someone on this board did a reading on my chart long time ago and said that Saturn is my governing deity.
from my research, Kali mantras are said to reduce
the maleficent aspects of Saturn.

So my questions are, what would happen to me without worshiping Kali?

As astrologists, do you only practice reading, or do you also try to influence your birth chart through planetary magic or other practices? If so, what were your experiences?

>>41069885
If you are a femanon, it is different of course.

>>41068761 (OP)
>ask an astrologer anything
bodycount and favorite starbucks coffee?

IMPORTANT PLEASE READ

I'm.going to stop for this day, the deciphering was great, I'm glad that some of you enjoyed it.

I will be there tomorrow, in the morning European time.

So please, if you want a reading:
>Date of birth
>hour if you can
>Approximate the location of your birth place.

Tomorrow I will take care of those I couldn't get today.

Please, If I have forgotten you, kindly notify me.

-Pyr0!

>>41070022
DOB 8/16/2000, Weymouth, MA ~8:30 AM. Thanks

In queue for tomorrow:
>>41069885
>>41069914
>>41069989
>>41069995

>>41068761 (OP)
Read mine

>>41070022
thanks. much appreciated

>>41070037
Specify also M of F, for trans people, well let's see. It could be interesting.

In queue for tomorrow :
>>41070036

>>41070022
>>41069989
>>Date of birth
3th February, 1997
>>Approximate the location of your birth place
Freiburg, Germany
>>hour if you can
is in the chart
>>M or F
male

thanks a lot

Any insights in regards to matters of career? Also would love some more book recommendations if you have them

>>41070037
Thanks Pyr0 I look forward to it. I enjoy astrology

>>41069914
Oh and additional:
Time is around I'd say 1:40am, but this is not 100%
I'm female

>>41068774
I know this was discussed a couple times in this thread but I have been thinking about this, and I don't get the argument about tropical.

Logically, if the premise is that the stars influence you, wouldn't you need to know and utilize where they actually were when you were born?

What's the argument for using tropical? I know western astrology is using tropical. Genuinely curious.

>>41068761 (OP)

Does astrology have any consistent predictive power, or is it only after the fact you can mix and match ideas to confirm your beliefs?

>>41070520
Mark my words, starting 15 September to the end of this month, rare events that occur every ~100 years will take place here on earth.

>>41070551
Give me an example

bump

>>41068961
I doesn't checks out. The chart I posted fits perfectly.

>>41070022
Aug 21, 99; 0408; newport beach, CA. Would love recommendations on how to read more deeply into this. I'd like more depth than what can be provided here. Thank you

>>41071279
M

Could you please read my chart and tell me something interesting about myself, or my problems? What does my future look like?

>>41070551
how much of an effect do you think pluto being out of bounds is having on world events

>>41071550
Not OP, but a fuck ton lol

>>41070461
Zodiac signs in tropical astrology are based on the seasons, which are based off the Sun.
Zodiac signs in sidereal are based on the stars.

If your a material atheist, sidereal is typically a more appealing explanation at first glance.
If your a magician, astrologer, alchemist, mystic, etc, then it becomes clear that tropical is superior, and the true spiritual nature of the world.
The power of the stars come from spiritual things, not from material things.

A western astrologer will laugh at siderealists claiming the shortest day of the year will have a dignified sun a few thousand years from now due to rotation of the zodiac stars. Western astrology ties the sun signs to the seasons and to phases of growth, and the meaning of the sun seasons are directly tied to the Sun, not to the stars.

>>41070520
Yes it is quite amazing its predictive power. But keep in mind it is for general trends of the major themes in life, not for daily horoscope superstitions.
Go watch Chriss Brennan read astrology charts on the AstrologyPodcast and be amazed.
Playlist below, on the Houses, he reads multiple clients charts, and they see how those house themes play out in their life themes - but you need some introductory background to even understand whats going on.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBqWtMxa3PnYn2400Bi5LSkwIrUm1zobI

>>41071349
Mars and Chiron in 4th House: Fighting with family, and some pain/insecurities/hangups with family.
Mars-4th opposite Saturn-10th: Feeling conflicts of career vs family. Might come to play later in life if you have a family and career of your own, but might have played out in childhood with a workholic father theme.

Moon-Scorpio-3rd: Moon takes joy in the 3rd house, where it enjoys walking around, doing daily activities like shopping, light mental thinking, and siblings. However Moon-Scorpio is afflicted, as it makes you prone to destroying peace and happiness through having excess jealousy and desire, and sometimes evil thinking. So it would be good to try to remedy this Moon.

Jupiter-Cancer in the 11th cusp with Rahu: Very auspicious for friendships, networking, business, social clubs type of stuff. You might meet your romantic partners through this avenue.

Saturn-10th: Likely to make you grind hard in career, to maintain your career reputation / status. Likely to give you shit when you are young, but after age 30 things should improve, and you should mellow out into some respected career position.

Your mileage may vary, because astrology is a list of potential correspondences, so you are the best person to read your own chart.

>>41070022
>9/19/1994
>1:44 AM
>Mason City, IA

I have some pretty good familiarity with my own chart; and it's kind of cool if I do say so myself, but was just curious if there's anything that really sticks out to you. I know of the full moon and I am quite aware of the 6th house Neptune from direct experience(alcohol), among other things. Maybe some advice to take advantage of my placements to the utmost?

Thank in advance, king.

How may one challenge, deny, and/or subvert the fate written amongst the stars, especially if one becomes the enemy of an astrologer?

>>41071735
>especially if one becomes the enemy of an astrologer?
Is your lord of ascendant making an evil aspect to the lord of the 9th house?
Is the lord of the 9th in the 6th house?
Are astrologers really your enemy, or are you trying to shoot the messenger?

>one challenge, deny, and/or subvert the fate written amongst the stars
There is fixed and unfixed karma. This concept is explored in vedic astrology.
There's just some things in your life that you have very little power to control, and you just going to have to suck it up. While you don't have power over the external world in these areas, you always have power over your own mind to learn how to not suffer because of external circumstances.

Astrology provides methods of karmic remediation:
>chanting mantras
>wearing planetary gemstones
>donating charity
>puja/homa
>religious remedies

In general, your planets that are dignified by sign or exaltation, mean you have power and freewill, and good merits in that area of life, corresponding to the general indications of the planet, as well as the specific indications pertaining to your chart.
Whereas planets afflicted by fall or detriment, indicate areas of minimum freewill/luck/merits.

For example if you have Venus-Virgo in the 5th house, this is a huge indicator of major blockages towards sex, romance, fun, and fertility. However a mantra remedy might awaken you to very high levels of pleasure and love, that are experienced internally by yourself, it might still be very difficult to change external situations. Its just an area you lack power/freewill/merits in this life, and even a remedy will have trouble making significant changes to those circumstances

>>41068761 (OP)
I have no idea how to read charts, here is myself and my wife, seems we are complete opposites. What do you think?

>>41071975
Well what do you think about her?
Why do you keep asking this question about your wife?
She has a strong 10th house: This can make her overly obsessed with status/image/attention/fame/celebrities/career.
Looks like she has a good 5th house, which is good for kids/romance/sex.

Your wife doesn't need to be the same as you. Opposite personalities can be complementary. If a man has a personality orientated to career, and a woman has one orientated to family and children, this is a totally complementary and workable marriage.

If you and your partner had the same interests, you would be a power couple, who have over whelming amounts of energy in only a select few areas of their life. It would be kinda weird honestly.

Relationships in your chart:
Moon in the 13th lunar mansion in the 5th house, trine Venus: This is a fantastic placement for pleasure/sex/romance.

Lord of the 7th in the 12th house: This is probably what is making you feel weird and confused about relationships. The 12th house feels liminal, blocked off, mysterious and confusing. Maybe you feel at times like you feel isolated or enjoy being alone. This is just one part of your personality, and the feelings will come and go.

Synastry:
Your Sun is trine her Moon. This is a great synastry placement, as her emotions are in harmony with your ego.
Your Venus is trine her Mars: This is also great romantic synastry, as these are the romantic planets.

hi anon, anything relating to psychic powers in my chart? thanks

>>41072195
nothing in particular is sticking out
You have a good mars, which you should try to utlize for psychic training, if that is indeed your goal

>>41072195
Yes, Mercury in the 12th house. Pluto square Mercury too.

>>41072291
>>41072549
thanks anons

>>41071641
Get out of my thread.

>>41068761 (OP)
I'm curious what you can make of this chart, I haven't quite figured out what the Pisces heavy stuff means. Or what do Eclipse births signify?

>>41071641
Tropical signs have ZERO mathematical measures, or any true position. It is versatile, it is random, based on any 21.

>Tropical is spiritual.
Well, you are like Christcucks who dares to say they are spiritual only with the Bible and their "gift" of their holy ghost

If you open a book about occult history, you will see that ancient civilizations used sidéral. Tropical came with the beginning of the church, that polluted western civilization. So go away from my thread, you are polluting people by leading them in fatalistic error.

Open your own thread, and leave mine. I never invited you.

>>41073142
I'm seeing sidereal is your choice so here's that.

>>41070044
>>41070093
>>41070220
>>41070619
>>41071279
>>41071349
>>41071975
>>41072195
>>41073142
In queue

>>41073153
>4chan threads need invitations to post
lol lmao even
stupid namefag

>>41069885
Well if you are a female, it is about love, when you love, you love, and you can see love through a beautiful, poetic lens.
Key Traits:

· Romantic Idealist: You don't just fall in love with a person; you fall in love with the idea of love itself. You see the absolute best in your partners, often overlooking flaws to maintain a perfect vision.
· Artistic & Creative: You have a natural talent for and a deep connection to art, music, dance, or film. You appreciate beauty in all its forms and may express your love creatively.
· Compassionate & Healing: Your love is gentle, empathetic, and unconditionally accepting. You have a healing presence that makes others feel seen and understood on a soul level.
· Spiritual Connection: You seek a "soulmate" connection—a relationship that feels destined and transcends the ordinary. You are attracted to partners who are sensitive, creative, or spiritual.

The Gift: You bring magic, dreamy romance, and unconditional acceptance to your relationships. The Caution:Be mindful of seeing partners through "rose-colored glasses" and setting yourself up for disappointment if reality doesn't match your perfect ideal. Maintain healthy boundaries to avoid playing the rescue.

But please, work in your bad habits.

NOTE : HOW do Astrology started ? People started to look at the sky, the night. And when they looked at the sky, they didn't find any season like they have in Tropical, based on a random metabase, of each 21 :a new sign appears.

So if the Sun, or any planet was in x or y constellation, they will decipher the meaning of it. And this is sideral astrology, WE ARE JUST FUCKING LOOKING AT THE SKY IN REAL TIME, WHAT'S BAD ABOUT IT ? Even the Yogis, still uses this system today, it is called Vedic astrology. And you can learn A LOT about yourself with that precious system.

ASTROLOGY IS ASTRONOMY.

>>41069914
You are Taurus, pic rel. Aquarius rising. Do your own research about Taurus people with aquarius rising. THIS IS YOU.

your cons :
Please, calm your anger, your pride, and your chaotic behavior, work on your laziness. You are a big thinker, but your mind is constantly reaching for more information, but this can lead to overextension and mental overwhelm : please try to say STOP when you goes hard on information


Pro :
You are a romantic idealist, artistic and creative, companionate and healing

You are magnetically attracted to the unusual, and you crave freedom and excitement in love and aesthetics.

You possess a powerful, disciplined, and transformative ability to build lasting structures and achieve profound mastery.

You can be a beautiful person if you master your cons.

Tell me if I'm right.

Does this can tell me when, if ever, it's gonna get for me? at least financially?

>>41073572
In queue, need approximate location. Thx.

>>41068761 (OP)

>Very well, I play the game

Twenty-ninth October,
nineteen hundred and ninety-six

>tell me everything

>>41073592
19°44′58″N 88°42′38″O

>>41068961
nasa squares aren't the real zodiac

>>41073518
you are just wrong about everything you said

>>41070093
Wow, You have a very great horoscope ! Congratulations.

You are Capricorn, Taurus rising. Please see the sun in the pic rel at your birthdate, and seek the meaning of these sign, because it is YOU.

In your chart, you have a Stellarium, it is a concentration of more than 3 planets.

In a nutshell: Your core identity (Sun) is a brilliant, chaotic, and magical fusion of expansion, rebellion, love, and dreams. You are a once-in-a-generation type of personality, built to break molds and inspire.

This is an extremely rare and powerful concentration of planetary energy. With five planets conjunct, they all blend together to act as one super-charged force in your chart, overwhelmingly defining your character and life path.

Here’s how each planet amplifies the others:

· Sun (Your Core Self): Your essential identity is completely fused with these planetary energies. You are innovation, growth, love, and transcendence.
· Jupiter: Massively expands and exaggerates everything it touches. It brings immense optimism, luck, a desire for growth, and a larger-than-life presence. It makes everything more.
· Uranus: Makes you a born revolutionary, genius, and individualist. You are utterly unique, unpredictable, freedom-loving, and destined to break structures and create something new.
· Venus: Infuses this revolutionary energy with charm, grace, and a love for beauty and harmony. Your taste is radically avant-garde, and you attract people and situations with magnetic ease.
· Neptune: Dissolves boundaries and adds a layer of spirituality, compassion, artistry, and illusion. You dream on a cosmic scale and may struggle to define where you end and the world begins.

The Collective Effect: You are here to be a visionary. You don't just think outside the box; you dissolve the box entirely. You are likely a creative, spiritual, or scientific pioneer, here to express a radically new and inspiring concept of constant, dramatic change.

>>41073890
So Germanon is basically reborn Hitler?

>>41069995
I'm dedicated to a deity

>>41069989
>So my questions are, what would happen to me without worshiping Kali?
Worship Krishna, he's controlling Kali

>As astrologists, do you only practice reading, or do you also try to influence your birth chart through planetary magic or other practices? If so, what were your experiences?
No. Human don't have power over planets influence.

>>41069808
Need date of birth, if M or F and approximate place

>>41070619
Heavy changes in geopolitical sphere

sidreal astrology is a scam

>>41070461
>Logically, if the premise is that the stars influence you, wouldn't you need to know and utilize where they actually were when you were born?
"stars that influence you" is just the astrological term for what astronomers call "planet"
the place those stars are in are the zodiac, the zodiac is areas in the sky that correspond to the 12 tropical solar months. aries is defined by the vernal equinox (thus cardinal), gemini is defined by ending at the summer solstice (thus dual), taurus is defined by being inbetween those signs (thus fixed).

>>41071279
Good horoscope also, because your sun, in Leo, is conjunct to one of the 4 royal stars in ancient time : Régulus. Please see pic rel.

You are LEO, Cancer rising. Do you own research on the internet.

Pro : you can see very, very BIG what you do. You also have a talent for the occult and hidden secrets.

Con : avoid anger, you seem to be anarchist, living in your illusions that can be too big, you may lie or steal.

Please tell me if I'm right.

can you tell me about the overlapping yods in this chart?

>>41073937
notice that the modality of a sign is defined by its proximity to the tropical points that define it:
cardinal signs are where a season begins
fixed signs are where a season persists
dual signs are where a season transitions

>>41073890
>>41073908
thank you very much. really appreciate it

>>41073956
>>41073937
I appreciate the explanations anon, thank you

Can someone explain to me what most of this means? I don’t know much about astrology

>>41073950
hard to say, these are broad descriptors. If I can see big, I must be missing what goes on in front of me. I could think of personal events that do relate to the cons. probably lack too much existence to be an anarchist. maybe my current path disagrees too much with my strengths. I avoid anger to the point of losing connections, at times.
Thank you

>>41071699
Well, as for you, my interpretation will be hard to believe, because you put your faith in the tropical system.

As I said, I use Vedic/sideral, I'm looking in the sky to see where are located the planets and stars in real time.

They have told you, that you are LEO, but, in your date of birth, the sun is in VIRGO (Vierge un French) see pic rel, and you are Gemini rising (Gémeaux in French) with Mars on it (The Chart map have some glitch degrees, I always check with Stellarium, see pic)

Pro : skills and ability to manifest easily your dreams, spiritually, and any innovative project in your life.
Skills and ability to express your emotions with ease.
Good and traditional wedding on any relationship with women
You are Lucky, and can achieve any goal with big ideas with a touch of discipline.

Cons :
Can be erratic and rebellious, be careful of car accident.
Premature and powerless sometimes.
Your thinking is brilliant, erratic, and revolutionary. It's a mental lightning storm—powerful and unpredictable, but prone to short circuits
Your mind operates through a foggy, poetic filter, blending intuition with illusion. It's a constant dance between logic and fantasy, often leaving you uncertain of what's real.

Please tell me if I'm right.

>>41073174
>>41073681
>>41073954
>>41074009
In queue, will do it later in the day.

>>41074030
No worries I appreciate your time

>>41068761 (OP)

What is the purpoted working mechanism of astrology?

Planets and Stars have some kind of yet-to-be-discovered energy that imprints on a person at the exact time of birth and that energy is so strong that i shapes the entire persons life? Including some whatever a person does unchangeable fixed Karma like some anon (not you) claimed in a post above?

While I think this is a fantastic thread and thank you for your work, that does seem like a stretch to believe, more so than other divinatory systems

>>41074035
Np, which chart are you please ?

>>41074044

>What is the purpoted working mechanism of astrology?
Quantum mechanics, that shape the human souls.


>Planets and Stars have some kind of yet-to-be-discovered energy that imprints on a person at the exact time of birth and that energy is so strong that i shapes the entire persons life?
Yes

>Including some whatever a person does unchangeable fixed Karma like some anon (not you) claimed in a post above?

Yes. The different geometrical aspects between stars and planets, are of karmic origins, and for the development of the soul, these energies can tell you, who you were in past life.
For example, a marine engineer today, could have been, in a past life, a simple engineer who loved anything related to water. A priest, or a magus, here today, should have been a priest in ancient Egypt.

>>41074044
>that does seem like a stretch to believe, more so than other divinatory systems
Tide happens because of sun's and moon's gravitational pull, which is proven scientifically without any doubt.
Now, if the sun and moon alone can influence such massive amounts of water, why cant other planets influence humans, that are essentially water-balloons, as well?

I hope this is ok.

>>41074125
Even if planets have gravitational or electromagnetic effects (which they do), these are extremely tiny compared to everyday forces on Earth. For instance, the gravitational pull of a doctor standing next to you is stronger than that of Mars. So if astrology relies on literal physical energy, the effect is implausibly weak.

>>41068761 (OP)
What does my own astrology chart says? Im too dumbass to read it. Thanks in advance

>>41074336
Thats a better one

>>41074145
>So if astrology relies on literal physical energy, the effect is implausibly weak
on a physical level yes, but physical, mental, and energetic plane are interconnected.
so, if something influences you physically, it will influence you mentally in a way, that might let you act in a specific subconcious way, that again may lead to some sort of butterfly effect in your daily life.

it may seem a bit of a stretch at first to you, but in the past I also tried my hands on geotic magic, and I expierenced myself without any doubt how outside entities/energies can influence your thoughts and actions in a way, to manifest certain things.
For example, when I invoked Sitri, I, who was always shy around girls, started to approach girls without a thought, not realizing it only until later. And the longer you interact with demons, the more you realize how intelligent and cunning those beings are.
Thats why occultist and magicians need to meditate, so that they can distinguish between their own thoughts, and foreign thoughts.
If you are skeptical because of a scientific worldview, just start invoking something daily (I advise against starting with goetic demons, maybe start some local deities or angels you have a cultural connection with), and observe your thoughts, and actions (especially the unconcious ones).

For planets, they were worshipped for centuries and their intelligence/intellect is not inferior to a duke from hell for example, so them being to predict and influence your whole life is not a stretch

>>41074069
>>41074009
This was my post if it’s not enough info I’ll use a different app or site

if I was born prior the planned date of birth, can I use chart of that, projected birthday over factual birth?

Hey Pyr0! Could I get a reading? Would be much appreciated

>>41073890
A German born with engineering and problem-solving skill? Why am I not surprised?

>>41073890
>>41073901
>>41075470
>A German born with engineering and problem-solving skill?
I wished...sadly I'm lazy and always procrastinating. googled Capricorn, Taurus rising and one of the negative influences can be ccrippling laziness (which seems to be connected to Saturn).
on the bright side, if I somehow finally get the impulse to do something, I'm being hyperfocused and I achieve efficiency unlike my peers

Is an exact born time, as in the hour and minutes required for an accurate reading? Sadly, I only have my DoB and location. Is there a way to see my born time like a.. past life regression or something? My parents can't remember anything now so it would be futile, or even weird, to ask them such things.

>>41074022
I'm not sure where you're getting the leo, I've never seen any chart that showed me having that sign in any capacity, always known I'm virgo. Moon was an interesting take since I've always found the pisces moon to be an interesting aspect my chart(opposite to virgo, full moon, but the last line you described covers this in it's own way) but other than that it is pretty similar to most readings of my chart. Potential via discipline, things come easy, intuition, etc. Car accidents have come up a few times already. That said, I have very little discipline, and endeavors with women have always been chaotic messes. On that note, the last person who read my chart vedic-style mentioned something about me running into a wife or something like that around the age of 32. Do you see where he might have seen that? I would be curious which part points to this.

Thanks again for the reading. I very much appreciate you taking the time.

>>41073174
>>41073142
Just to clarify top is tropical bottom is sidereal

>>41073954
>>41074030
thanks, will check back

>>41068761 (OP)
What are your thoughts on the upcoming Sept 21 eclipse?

>>41074044
When you enter this reality, you become a part of it. You are participating in the same set of material snapshots with it, bounded by time; the same phase-space until the day you die. As the OP said in a sense, all things are in quantum entanglement. There is no independence, it's all interconnected.

The fundamental nature of existence is quantum entanglement of all things in a singular superposition that precipitates the story we call existence.

>>41075952
Nothing great will happen.

>>41076010
Interesting, so any ideas what will happen after the 15th?

>>41076134
Geo-political changes.

For those in queue, I will some of you tomorrow.

what career should i under take, and what can i do as a backup plan that isn't completely soul draining?

>>41068774
>>41068797
Oh, already ahead of me. I was ready to come here and be all cynical about your work. Carry on...

>>41070461
I would venture to say, after all the time I have spent interacting with the schizos here is that they have a magical system in place to manifest things and they have made changed and manipulations to these things. Like divination tools like Tarot cards being based on other tools used before and modifying them to suit their needs and apparently thats great and valid.
But the astrology system? Naaah, somehow they think that doesnt need updating despite the fact that there is something else working alongside it that makes people either already know they are not their sign, or sense that something doesnt match so they are not in tune with the programming of their magic system.
So both tropical and sidereal exist alongside each other in opposition - tropical being artificially induced, and sidereal being inherent/intuitive/instinctive, whichever word you want to use. Which is hilarious when women think they are more intuitive, they actually should say they are more easily manipulated by the established programming/narrative.

(Whatever the fuck I dunno, I dont handle these things I just know that they are wrong about many many things despite being able to manipulate and manifest things)

>>41077157
In summary, tropical is just outdated.
>>41069291
>>41069327
>be kind to women
Don't always be kind to women. They need constant reality checks or else they get very haughty and overestimate themselves and their abilities.

Tropical is flawed, but superior in that it maps from the perspective of earth which is closer to the perspective of the "I am" that inhabits (you). That thing is the object to the subject of your experienced reality. It is the coherence that will more closely serve you.

It's a hot take, but I'm saying it. Either way, It is worth looking through what both systems imply about (you).

>>41068858
FAKE

Saturn is in Gemini

Doesn't astrology show we don't really have free will and equal opportunities.

>>41076010
You say nothing great. What about the terrible stuff?

>>41070022
>>Date of birth
>>hour if you can
>>Approximate the location of your birth place.


5/17/1987
13:40
Los Angeles, CA, USA


Thanks in advance.

>>41078237
No
Taureau in French is Taurus. I'm using a true position and not a virtual one like you.

>>41079122
>>41079141

>>41073174
Great horoscope.

You are AQUARIUS, with VIRGO rising.
This creates a fascinating blend of the visionary, unconventional humanitarian (Aquarius Sun) with the practical, analytical, and service-oriented persona (Virgo Rising).

With Jupiter conjunct to the Sun, you can see very big in this combo.

Avoid manipulation over people(Sun squads pluto), also be careful about religious matter, because you can lure people to your false belief, and no one can bring your back (Jupiter Square Pluto)

Tell me if I'm right

>>41073681
You are LEO, Cancer rising

This creates a powerful and fascinating blend of radiant, dramatic confidence (Leo Sun) with a sensitive, protective, and nurturing exterior (Cancer Rising).

In a nutshell: You lead with your heart, your warmth is your strength, and your loyalty is your crown. You shine brightest when making those you love feel seen and celebrated.

Cons: You have a chaotic and rebellious life/behavior. Life will teach you some lessons to master these cons, and purge your bad Karma.

Tell me if I'm right

>>41073954
Need date of birth and approximate location, thx

>>41074009
Need date of birth and approximate location, please.

>>41075818
Whoops sorry, you are not Leo, but Virgo. As you can see, the sun is in the Virgo constellation, (Vierge in French). And to be honest, I don't know about your 32 years. I ask you to contact this guy for more clarification

>>41074141
>>41074336
>>41075166
Need a place of birth and appreciate location, please. Specify also M or F
>>41076515
In queue, M or F ?

>>41079354
Sorry,
>F
>Victoria, BC

>>41076515
Your sun is at 30° Taurus (Taureau in French), on the verge of being in Gemini (Gémeaux in French), passing by Orion, see the stars map. The chart app displays Gemini at 01°, that's why it's important to check in real time. You are Leo rising.

This creates a powerful blend of deeply grounded, sensual stability (Taurus Sun) with a radiant, proud, and performative exterior (Leo Rising).

In a nutshell: You are here to build a legacy of value and beauty, and you possess the unwavering determination and regal charm to make it a magnificent success. You are the dependable CEO with a dazzling, charismatic flair.

Cons :
If you are a female, you can have some problems with your own femininity. If you are a male, you are cold, distant and rigid with women, please learn to love them. This issue can lead you to divorce or a sad break.
You are a psychic sponge, and have rebellious tendencies. Calm your anger please.

Pro :
Ability to manifest easily your dream. You have a touch with the spiritual.
High intellect, with big ideas. You can succeed be opening a business.

Tell me if I'm right.

>>41079808
Which chart are you please ?

>>41070044
04. August 1985, F, 12:05 am
Central Balkans

>>41078503
Taurus, Leo rising.
This creates a powerful blend of deeply grounded, sensual stability (Taurus Sun) with a radiant, proud, and performative exterior (Leo Rising).

In a nutshell: You are here to build a legacy of value and beauty, and you possess the unwavering determination and regal charm to make it a magnificent success. You are the dependable CEO with a dazzling, charismatic flair.

Cons :
Erratic, rebellious, chaotic life/behavior, + premature in project, manipulative with women if male. If you are a woman, you use your sensual magnetic powers to lure men
Anger and limitless.

Pro : Can have a beautiful, poetic, and original relationship in terms of love (master this Manipulative con about love) if you are a male. If you are a woman, you can express your femininity in a beautiful and poetic way.
You have Jupiter in pisces trine Saturn in Scorpio which means that you have a powerful, disciplined ability to transform and dive into the depths (Saturn in Scorpio) that is harmoniously supported by boundless faith, spiritual wisdom, and compassionate expansion (Jupiter in Pisces)

Key Traits:

· Master of the Unseen: This aspect gives you an incredible ability to work strategically and patiently (Saturn) with psychological depth, hidden forces, and transformative processes (Scorpio), all while being guided by intuition, faith, and spiritual insight (Jupiter in Pisces).
· Structured Spirituality: You don't just have dreams; you have the discipline to build a practical framework around your spiritual or compassionate goals. You might excel in therapy, healing professions, investigative research, or any field that requires delving into mysteries with both rigor and compassion.
· Wisdom Through Crisis: Your toughest lessons (Saturn) in areas of trust, power, and intimacy (Scorpio) have ultimately led to a profound emotional and spiritual depth, not just material gain. You are likely generous with your emotional support and wisdom, helping others transform.

>>41079883
In queue.

astrology bros can you tell me what you see in this?

>>41077929
>it maps from the perspective of earth
...so does sidereal lol

>>41080139
See
>>41070022


For those who I have forgotten, please remind me + link to your post.

july 12 new jersey 2004 m

>>41079883
You are Cancer and Virgo rising, see pic rel.

This creates a blend of nurturing, sensitive, and protective emotionality (Cancer Sun) with a practical, analytical, and service-oriented exterior (Virgo Rising).
You are the thoughtful organizer, the empathetic problem-solver, and the devoted caregiver who shows love by attentively meeting the practical and emotional needs of those you cherish. Your strength lies in combining heartfelt compassion with useful action.

Cons :
Calm your extreme and chaotic angers please, if you continue, you could have a heart attack. You idealize love, relationships, and beauty, often seeing partners and romances through a dreamy, poetic filter that can obscure reality.
Humiliate yourself please, because you have a big ego.

Pro :
You experience love, relationships, and beauty as a profound, transformative, and intensely powerful force. Your connections are never superficial; they are fated, soul-level encounters that change you forever.


You have an intense, deep need to transform and perfect the concept of partnership, balance, and fairness. You are drawn into power dynamics, and your relationships are rarely casual; they are profound lessons in intimacy, equality, and transformation.

You express affection and feel loved through communication, intellectual connection, variety, and lighthearted fun. You need mental stimulation and conversation to feel romantically engaged. You are charming, flirtatious, and enjoy the playful, early stages of dating.
You value wit, intelligence, and adaptability in a partner. You can be attracted to different types of people and enjoy multiple forms of connection, as you are curious about all expressions of love and beauty.

Tell me if I'm right

>>41073651
Sorry for the delay sir, you are the next.
>>41080283
In queue.

>>41073651
Need a place of birth, hour if possible, and an approximate location.

41080283

>> 41080283
2:45 pm
^^ sorry for spam was trying to send birth time as well

>>41068790
Lmao.

>>41079122
But that is more inaccurate, and you should also add other constellations like Ophiuchus and the signs would be uniform...

>>41079354
>>41079354
Angeles City,Ph
M
1:40pm

I’m the guy who says “Hey Pyr0!”
Thanks again

>>41080605
>Saturn is naturally in Taurus
>Can see it with the naked eyes, without any instrument
>"But that is more inaccurate..."

>>41080605
Well seriously. Why won't you try the same way that I do, instead of trusting a bad calibrated instrument ?
Do you think ancients civilizations had this kind of useless and over stuff that we had today ?

Can you, please, give me a glimpse of my life's purpose in my map? I'm open to any advice, though.

Also, why EVERY single astrologer I see on the internet is very pessimistic about this end of 2025 and specially on the next year? It's going to be so bad, worse than 2019 and the pandemy?

>>41080656
The date please

>>41068761 (OP)
My hypothesis is these things affect the subconscious, so they’ll have the most obvious effect in people who live most of their lives subconsciously (NPCs). Someone who is fully individuated in the Jungian sense then, could shrug off those influences and assert free will in opposition to what the chart says. Am I on track or no?

>>41080656
Forgot to add dob:feb 5 1998

>>41079846
This one >>41074141
Made sure it was Sideral

>>41080283
You are Gemini (Gémeaux in French), VIRGO (Vierge in French) rising and not Libra rising (see pic rel).

This creates a blend of curious, communicative, and adaptable intelligence (Gemini Sun) with a practical, analytical, and meticulous exterior (Virgo Rising).

In a nutshell: You are the insightful critic, the meticulous conversationalist, and the quick thinker who knows how to turn ideas into practical, usable information. Your mind is your greatest tool, and you use it with both speed and precision.

Congratulations.

Cons: Laziness, can be rebellious with females or any feminine activities, erratic and rebellious sub conscient. premature, can manipulate women to achieve sexual goal, can be a sect guru in terms of religious matter. Weakness in intellectualizing spirituality.

Pros : What is hidden and the occult is open to you without forbidden can have a beautiful and romantic relationship with females, if you master your cons above.

Tell me if I'm right.

>>41080283
You are Gemini (Gémeaux in French), VIRGO (Vierge in French) rising and not Libra rising (see pic rel).

This creates a blend of curious, communicative, and adaptable intelligence (Gemini Sun) with a practical, analytical, and meticulous exterior (Virgo Rising).

In a nutshell: You are the insightful critic, the meticulous conversationalist, and the quick thinker who knows how to turn ideas into practical, usable information. Your mind is your greatest tool, and you use it with both speed and precision.

Congratulations.

Cons: Laziness, can be rebellious with females or any feminine activities, erratic and rebellious sub conscient. premature, can manipulate women to achieve sexual goal, can be a sect guru in terms of religious matter. Weakness in intellectualizing spirituality.

Pros : What is hidden and the occult is open to you without forbidden can have a beautiful and romantic relationship with females, if you master your cons above.

You have Pluto in Scorpio trine Mercury in Cancer
In a nutshell: Your mind is a powerful, investigative tool, capable of profound psychological insight and transformative communication. You uncover secrets and exchange them with intellectual ferocity.

· Pluto in Scorpio: This gives you an intense, penetrating, and fearless mind. You are driven to uncover hidden truths, psychological motives, and taboo subjects. You think in terms of power, transformation, and survival.
· Mercury in Gemini: This makes your mind incredibly quick, adaptable, and communicative. You process information rapidly, make connections between diverse ideas, and express yourself with wit and charm.
· The Trine (Harmonious Aspect): This energy flows easily. The depth and focus of Pluto/Scorpio perfectly supports the speed and curiosity of Mercury/Gemini. You can take a deep, complex truth and explain it in a clear, compelling way..

You are a :Psychological investigator, Transformative Communicator, magnetic intellectual

Tell me if I'm right.

>>41080768
Need birth of place, date of birth + hour of birth and approximate location of birth.

>>41080747
Nope, here, on earth, every one is chained to these energies

Wanna try ?
Need date of birth + hour of birth, approximate location of birth + M or F.

>>41080865
>Victoria, BC
>August 1 1999
>5:20 pm
>F

>>41080882
Ok thank you , I will do it in the evening, Europe time.

>>41077184
You have confirmed my reading.

Can't you somewhat be doxxed by posting your chart? If charts are that unique to you, I'm guessing someone or ai could figure out your bday and place of birth?

I've been lost.
Don't know what to do with myself, don't belong anywhere.
Cap Sun and Aries Rising basically wasted on me, what a shame.

>>41081044
Oh, am F, btw.

>>41080882
Because of the delay, I shall do 2 post for you

You are CANCER, CANCER rising.

This is a double dose of Cancer energy, meaning your core identity (Sun) and your outward personality and appearance (Rising) are both deeply aligned with the traits of the sign.

How You Come Across (Cancer Rising):

To the world, you appear:

· Nurturing and Protective: You have a soft, gentle, and approachable aura. People immediately sense your warmth, empathy, and caring nature. You seem like a "safe harbor."
· Sensitive and Intuitive: Your feelings are right on the surface. You are highly tuned into the emotional undercurrents in any room and may be perceived as shy or reserved until you feel safe.
· Deeply Rooted: You give off a vibe of being connected to home, family, and tradition.

---

Your Core Self (Cancer Sun):

Beneath the surface, your inner world is:

· Profoundly Emotional and Loyal: Your emotions are your compass. You are incredibly protective of your loved ones and value emotional security above all else.
· A Natural Caregiver: Nurturing others isn't just something you do; it's who you are at your very core. You have a strong need to care for and be cared for in return.

---

The Combined Effect:

This creates a personality that is the ultimate nurturer.

· What you see is what you get. There is no mask separating your outer self from your inner self. You are authentically and consistently caring, sensitive, and protective.
· Your greatest strength is your empathic depth and ability to make others feel comforted, understood, and emotionally safe.
· Your primary life lesson involves managing your sensitivity. You must learn to create healthy emotional boundaries to avoid being overwhelmed by the feelings of others or your own mood swings. Your home is your sanctuary.

In a nutshell: You are the heart of the home, the empathetic friend, and the nurturing soul who feels everything deeply. Your mission is to create a world of emotional safety.

1/2

>>41081074
Cons :
Well, you have a really bad karma. You had and will have a lot of struggle during this life due to karmic debt. I will not explain everything here.

Please, learn and seek philosophy in any struggles you get, so you will grow.

DON'T DO SUICIDE , because if it's the case, you will restart the same life. Lessons must be learn during this incarnation.

Good Luck and be brave.

>>41068761 (OP)
I've never had a Sidereal reading before, but I'm looking to switch over immediately. I'd highly appreciate a general reading if you are still offering them as it gives me a chance to reinterpret my chart. Could I email you my information on a burner instead of posting it here?

>>41081044
Place of birth please.

*ANNOUNCEMENT*

THIS IS THE LAST CHART THAT I SHALL READ.

I will open a new thread on Monday, especially reading charts, based on Vedic, sideral and ancient astrology.

I will answer some questions for the curious one.

Thank you for your patience, and your trust.

~Pyr0!

>>41081107
Contact me on tg: @Salty_Red_Mercury.

>>41081029
What are you afraid of?
It's not like you had called someone a nigger twenty years ago, or denied the holocaust while drunk.
You're not that interesting, equally to bioluminescent and nonbioluminiscent life forms.

>>41081118
what time on monday

>>41081146
Morning, European time.

>>41081029
That's why I ask for a near approximate place.

>>41079354
For >>41074347 Im male and from greece, larissa city. Thanks in advance

What is the influence of the Sun or the Moon on human perception of the other side?
Wrt myself, the veil seems to be the thickest on high noon; conversely, full moon seems to thin it a bit. Is there any known astrological association between these two most visible objects and the "invisible" side?

>>41081307
Date of birth please

>>41081317
Sun is for consciousness and the moon is for unconsciousness.
The moon is deeply linked to the astral sphere of the earth.

>>41081441
Thank you, astrologer anon.

>>41081524
Np

>>41081433
15-10- 1990

>>41079312
I shouldn't have cut off the date, it 26/02 not 28 at 20:23 CST. The eclipse stuff is probably a big difference here.

The main positions stay the same, I am big on doing hippie shit but practical and sustainable activities interest me the most.

>>41081570
If you are born at 9:00 am (tell me the hour of birth)

You are Virgo, Libra rising.
The Combination:

This creates a blend of analytical, practical, and service-oriented precision (Virgo Sun) with a charming, diplomatic, and harmonious exterior (Libra Rising).

---

How You Come Across (Libra Rising):

To the world, you appear:

· Charming, Diplomatic, and Graceful: You present yourself as polite, tactful, and eager to create harmony. People see you as friendly, attractive, and cooperative, with a natural sense of style and balance.
· People-Pleasing and Indecisive: Your first instinct is to seek consensus and avoid conflict. You may be perceived as someone who struggles to make quick decisions, weighing all options carefully to be fair.

---

Your Core Self (Virgo Sun):

Beneath that pleasant exterior, your core identity is:

· The Meticulous Perfectionist: You are analytical, detail-oriented, and driven to improve, organize, and be useful. Your mind is constantly critiquing, refining, and seeking efficiency.
· Practical and Humble: You find purpose in work, service, and mastering skills. You are modest, reliable, and value competence above all else.

---

The Combined Effect:

This pairing creates a "diplomatic perfectionist" or "harmonious analyst" dynamic.

· Your Libra Rising softens the sometimes-critical or reserved nature of Virgo. You know how to deliver feedback or correct errors with tact and charm, making you an effective but gentle critic.
· You have a strong aesthetic sense (Libra) that is expressed through practical skill and refinement (Virgo). You might excel in design, editing, or any field that combines beauty with functionality.
· You seek balance and harmony (Libra) through order, cleanliness, and useful service (Virgo). Your version of "peace" is a well-organized, efficient, and beautifully run environment.

>>41081626
I think it was a bit earlier than that, but thank you for your analysis :)

>>41081645
Thank you for your patience

I got jumped, that's just too sad.

>>41082078
??

>>41082263
I'm >>41080718 , but I will try again on next monday.
Good weekend to you, Pyro!

>>41080355

>My place of birth
Aix-en-Provence, France
4 p.m.

can you tell me about my money and relationship related things
(or anything cool you see)

Hue

>>41082439
A glance reveals a life driven by a quiet, relentless ambition, with a deep need for security. You possess an almost surgical precision in your thoughts and actions, a meticulousness that is often hidden beneath a veil of profound, and at times, obsessive emotion.
Your have a scorpio rising so you probably have a tendency to be mysterious, you draw people to you but you don't let them look too deep inside because you have a need to secure yourself.
This drive for security is backed-up by your Virgo Moon, you internalize your anxieties and need to feel in control, almost obsessively sometimes of the people and situation around you. If you can't predict their hearts, you consider having them nearby a potential threat to your safety.
something like that I'm not OP

>>41083263
Go create your own thread.

>>41083263
What? I'm leo Rising scorpio moon

>>41083263
>>41083720
What a fail lmaoo

>>41068761 (OP)
telll me how to overcome the dreaded saturn moon conjunction in 2nd house with gemini

>>41083732
kind of pathetic response. you should have trip code

>>41068774
>brown hands typed this post
Obviously tropical is the correct system because it’s aligned with the equinoxes when night and day are in perfect harmony. It’s not the stars but the planets and their spheres that coincide with occurrences on the earth.

>>41084044
See
>>41080688

Will my life (notably love life) ever get easier? Also, are sidereal and other charting types more accurate? I think the outputs here most reflect me.

>>41080856
you got it pretty spot on, wondering with what you meant by 'premature'.
'Pros : What is hidden and the occult is open to you without forbidden' can you elaborate?

Is there any other insight you're able to offer? It was pretty spot on so honestly I'm pretty impressed. I'll read through the books you recommended above but do you have any others you can add?

>>41073394
Thank you! I didn’t realized that you redid my chart! That’s very nice of you! But yes I am such a hopeless romantic that I’m looking at romance songs to my future bf hahaha

anything interesting?

>>41085411
I'm glad I've seen right about you, good luck for your future bf.

>>41085344
>wondering with what you meant by 'premature'.
You start a project, but fail at the beginning.

>'Pros : What is hidden and the occult is open to you without forbidden' can you elaborate
It means, that, if you start study wicca for example, they will be no secrets for you. It's like having access in a premium course or teaching in a high university'

>I'll read through the books you recommended above
You need to learn the sideral system before reading it, the authors use the tropical one, so this is very confusing. If you want to learn sideral astrology, which was the way that the Egyptians, Greek used, keep an eye to my thread. I will start a new one tomorrow (Monday 15)

>but do you have any others you can add?
Mythology and philosophy. AI like Deepseek or chat GPT can help you well to decipher ancient wisdom.

I'm glad my reading is right.

>>41084478
>>41085420
>>41082411
>>41082439

FOR THE NEWCOMERS, THEY WILL BE A NEW THREAD MONDAY 15, SO TOMORROW.

>>41073118
Sidereal, tropical, whole sign, ... Whatever. It doesn't matter, because astrology is a divination system. It's omen reading. The ancients knew this, and even though you can see surface level psych stuff with this Jungian bastardized nonsense you're peddling, they could in turn find lost objects, people, and predict times of death. You my friend don't understand astrology. It's not your fault, but don't be so proud and understand where you come from. You might learn a thing or two.

For those who want to be REAL astrology, read John Crawley's The Real Astrology.

Now OP, GET THE FUCK OUT of our 4cha, you fucking tourist. You don't belong here.

>>41073927
Don't be racist. Indians are a very proud people and a very ancient culture.
Americans need to stop visiting 4chan already

>>41085617
Tell us more master please.

>>41085584
Greeks used whole sign tropical. Look it up you dumbass. This wasn't known until relatively recently. Sidereal is for materialist swines who need mommy science to justify their beliefs for them
>but it's the real planets!!!
Pathetic. You understand nothing.

>>41068761 (OP)

Can I have someone read my birth chart?

>>41085635
Sure go ahead. I will need an approximate location

>>41085639
Why did you steal my nickname?

>>41068761 (OP)
Hey OP if you're still here. Can you do horary? Something happened at work and I need to reveal who was behind it. I can offer more info as you needed

>>41085655
You need to post your birth chart and your approximate location and I do a reading for you
>>41085650
Stop

>>41085666

Ok. So this nigger stole my nickname.

Look I have said Monday for new reading and he started doing new charts.

What an idiot faggot.

It is as your own peril if you listen to this nigger

>>41085688
See you tomorrow.

Ignore these dumb larpers

>>41085617
https://ia803105.us.archive.org/24/items/livingsignsii/John%20Frawley%20-%20The%20Real%20Astrology.pdf
First few pages were amusing and intriguing. Maybe he's on to something.

>>41085702
>https://ia803105.us.archive.org/24/items/livingsignsii/John%20Frawley%20-%20The%20Real%20Astrology.pdf
>this did not happen
fun intro at least

Ok OP here it is, thank you so much anon i wanted insight to this for a long time. I think my chart is weird bro. I see alot myself just in the lines. you'll see what i mean.

>>41085739

If anyone can tell me anything useful i am honestly very grateful.

>>41085744
OP said he'll be creating new thread on Monday morning, European time.
Try there.

>>41085827

I saw, I'm hoping to gleam some important information to me from it.

>>41085624
The vedas defined the zodiac tropically

>>41086203
Go away.

>>41086203
Really go away.

>>41086303
>>41086310
Google overviews are not "the vedas"

>>41086312
As you can see, the term "tropical" is not mentioned in the Vedas, it is just an interpretation and a commentary. And if this Vedas text was describing "tropical" we will find out similarity with the western zodiac.

And by the way, the text 7 applies also for sideral.

But tell me more, Mister I know everything.

>>41086335
>the term "tropical" is not mentioned in the Vedas
When the Vedas were written there wasn't any system of using the signs aside of the tropical way.
>it is just an interpretation and a commentary
It is the only definition of the zodiac that exists in the vedas.

>>41086312
But, behind that, wanna try an interpretation in my thread Monday ? So you will have both, one tropical, and one sideral. And you will choose what it represents you the most, you will have your own opinion.

Try and you won't be deceived, friend.

Why 2026 will be so bad astrologically speaking? Some speak that it will be far worse than 2019.
It's not even the end of 2025 and things are so turbulent in the whole globe, what must be done to get well prepared? I don't have much hope to be spared of anything.

>>41086348
Why, try it. You can already see in the tropical birth chat why I would be such an ardent supporter of the original interpretation of the vedas.

>>41086362
Well be there, tomorrow, so Monday.

What I need :
Date of birth, hour of birth if possible, approximate place of birth, M or F.

Remind me that you are the anon with the Vedic.

Thanks in advance mate.

>>41086358
The end of 2025 will be bad.

I don't make a check up for 2026 yet

>>41086358
> you can't handle the truth
Can you?

>>41068761 (OP)
Y'all do realize chatgpt does a way better astrology analysis than this guy? In fact I'm willing to bet he's got chatgpt open on another window and posts your replies in it.

>>41086390
It's already bad, how much worse it can get? After the next eclipse?

>>41086405
I practice Jñana yoga, so I can't handle it for much time before Maya does her job.

>>41086443
> the truth
I take it as "no". That's fair. Most people would say unequivocal "yes" only to engage in compartmentalizations few seconds later.
You do well to be a prepper. Join a local community and strive for self sufficiency. Even if the worst (or the best) wouldn't happen, then at least you'll have a set of skills, resources and reliable people around.

>>41086475
>I take it as "no". That's fair. Most people would say unequivocal "yes" only to engage in compartmentalizations few seconds later.
This and the eternal rhetoric about what is and what is not the Truth, I don't even like to talk much about is because aprehend with the mind what is beyond it is trying to put a frame on the horizon and saying that this is the real horizon.

>You do well to be a prepper. Join a local community and strive for self sufficiency. Even if the worst (or the best) wouldn't happen, then at least you'll have a set of skills, resources and reliable people around.
The irony is that to practice jñana properly, I have to submit to whatever comes and stick to the essence regardless of getting real well or real f**** by the circunstances, a thing that a mind always accostumed to planning and controlling and expecting will hardly do without great effort.
It's hard to admit, but I'm still ages, incarnations even, for getting such kind of perspective, to a jñani, gaining a lottery and getting terminal cancer is the same, as for this pacticer, CERTAINLY a rich life on the beach is way better than agonizing in a hospital bed.

Regardless, I thank you for your advice, I will pray for you for these hard times, it's the least I can do.

>>41086531
> The irony is that to practice jñana properly, I have to submit to whatever comes and stick to the essence regardless of getting real well or real f**** by the circunstances
It's the same for me - trusting Gods. I rarely got what I wanted, but I always got what I needed.
Even the "punishment" or "suffering" serve a purpose, although most of these are more or less self-inflicted in my case.
> I will pray for you for these hard times
Thank you, anon. I will ask my Gods to notice you.

You still doing them? What can you tell me about my chart in general? What can you tell me about my chart and women?

>>41068761 (OP)
it seems to be good in an evil way to be born on novermber 13. i think demons love me for that.

>>41068797
Why not whole sign?

>>41088109
I'm using Placidius, Sideral with whole sign
>>41087906
Everything is karmic, my dear.

>>41088146
its not karma to become the talking ant. its fate by blood.

No shit the worst Zodiac is Scorpio. They're hearts are empty dead. They hold too much anger burst their hearts out. Don't deal with those people. Save yourself some time.

Will I be jobless and lonely forever?