Thread 41119895

> mid thirties.
> i spend a lot of time in isolated places at night
> one spot had a literal death or murder (falling from a building)
> i purposefully leave lights off walking into empty apartment at night
> i take out the trash in total darkness at 3am
> i sleep alone in the same room where family members studying medicine used to have a complete human skeleton / multiple human skulls stored
> i left my phone recording audio for multiple nights and checked it in audacity
> i have security cameras around the house that i check almost daily.
> AND i live about 450ft from a graveyard.

not ONCE did i see a ghost or a spirit. as far as I'm concerned the verdict is out: these mofos don't exist.

>>41119895 (OP)
Not everyone is capable of perceiving the spirit realm and interacting with its inhabitants. It's a tendency determined by genetic and epigenetic factors

>>41119895 (OP)
I’ve had ghost phenomena follow me all my life. Electronics without batteries going off at night for years, neighbors breaking their lease and moving out because of scary poltergeist activity, doors opening up or closing by themselves or being slammed, voices, lots of voices, footsteps, bed shaking , scratching on walls, stuff flying across the room, and even seeing stuff out of the corner of my eye.

I mean literally everytime I’m alone at home stuff starts happening. Just today I heard one door slam from a different part of the house and heard footsteps over the course of hours upstairs. A week ago my shower curtain went flying at me like something hit it hard and there was nothing there. I thought this was normal until relatively recently I realized not everyone has this all the time.

Had an yellow Orb follow my car at 1 a.m. In 2010 that bounced back and forth across the road for like 1 minute before it shot off and disappeared. Had someone in the car that watched it with me. Other than that I had something attach to my throat in 2020 after smoking weed when I stared at myself in the mirror for like a minute and I said "show yourself" while staring into my eyes. Had a wave of heat pass over me and felt weighted down. I was able to clear it with selenite wands and mantras but the thing comes back if I dabble in vaping so I had to quit. I'm highly sensitive though and used to meditate for 12 hours a day. So I feel it's subjective to how many blockages you've cleared and if you aligned chakras, meridians, 12d primordial, etc. I don't fuck with Tarot stuff as it seems like an opening to pocket dimensions for people that do it. So in the end I feel it depends on how much of the veil you've uncovered. My parents have seen cloaked shit in the sky though over the years. They also did something dumb and played with a Oujia board one night in their teens and it spelled out something that freaked them out and won't tell anyone what was spelled out. Shortly after that my uncle, my mom's brother had dreams of Satan asking to make a deal frequently and he would sleep walk during the dreams and wake up in his clothes closet and freak out on occasions. All I got for you.

>>41119972
don't you think this is a cop out explanation though? i'm open to it as you can tell. but half my life is over and i haven't seen anything, i feel silly believing this crap through the other half.

>>41119991
not to invalidate your experiences anon, but the things you're describing are explainable. for example: the bed shaking, hearing voices, footsteps and scratching are signs of schizophrenia. the door slamming > drafts, and seeing stuff from the corner of your eye is similar to pareidolia. it's your brain interpreting shapes the wrong way or again .. schizophrenia

>>41120001
> freaked them out and won't tell anyone what was spelled out

One of my parents told me they summoned a ghost as a kid that steadily became more active and more scary until they reached out for help from someone who deals with that stuff. To this day they won’t speak the name of what it called itself. They also messed around with tarot and correctly predicted a sudden unexpected death

>>41119895 (OP)
Have you ever FELT THE PRESENCE of a ghost, though?

>>41120001
> selenite wands
> mantras
> orbs
> vaping
> chakras
> meridians
> pocket dimensions

anon, i mean this in the nicest possible way, but you don't sound like a credible witness inside a courtroom.

>>41120033
you mean that chilling terror when you look behind you and feel irritated by something that isn't there. cracking the tv volume higher so you don't feel alone? during my teenage years, yes, but i grew out of it the more rational i became.

When you meditate it feels like the bed is shaking if you meditate frequently. It's normal. I went through all the Robert Monroe tapes and was also in the GATE program in third grade near Eglin funny enough. So any Eglin personnel in here I'll be seeing you at Salty Duck, Coasters or AJs in Destin. I love to social engineer yall.

>>41120029
Nah I totally get where you’re coming from. I’ve gone through phases of trying to explain it off my entire life. I can assure you I understand drafts can close doors. I’ve had a habit for years now where I close every door in the house when I’m alone and I’ll still hear door slamming. The bed shaking has been a shared experience on a few occasions with someone else to validate it. The footsteps and scratching have been heard by others as well over the years. The voices as well have been validated as well by others.

The seeing stuff out of the corner of my eye, yea no witnesses for that but the experience is one of the more unsettling.

Literally everything else I said can be validated and in some cases by the multiple people because as I’ve said, this has happened to me all my life where ever I live.

Like I said, electronics without batteries going off in the middle of night for years.
I had a neighbor break their lease after claiming they were pinned to a wall at night by an invisible force and pack their shit and gone that day.

Every single person I’ve spent alot of time around has experiences at wherever I live. Had a girlfriend spend the night once, first time at my place, and I went to the kitchen. She comes running and screaming out of the room that someone poked their head through the door way staring at them.

Actually had that experience repeat with another woman later in life but she didn’t freak out as bad.

When I was younger, my closet was a constant source of sound. The walls scratched and voices at night. Every friend I ever had stay the night was aware and believed that my house was haunted. It was well known by friends and family including a ton of people that wouldn’t believe in ghosts otherwise.

So yea I get it. What I’m saying, you’re thinking how can you explain it. I don’t blame you. All I can say is, I’m not schizophrenic or imagining it and it’s very normalized to me.

>>41120029
>>41120096
> seeing stuff from the corner of your eye is similar to pareidolia.

I’m kinda being vague about the experiences but I’ll clarify one example of this.

> I’m chilling at night in my living room. It’s late, everyone is asleep
> someone that lives in the house gets up and goes into the garage. They walk behind me and I can only see them and the garage door out of the corner of my eye
> it opens. It closes.
> 30 minutes or so later I go out there to see what their up to.
> lights off, no one there.
> check, that person is asleep in bed

So I won’t deny there’s explanations. I won’t agree with those explanations because I know what I saw and it’s part of a greater pattern but sure it’s possible.

The point is though that it’s more then just something like pareidolia

>>41120062
>chilling terror
uhh... no
I mean like a dead guy visiting me in my room

I have seen and heard loads of stuff but I have family history of "mania"

>>41120171
thank you for being honest anon. you're brave.

>>41120096
ok. assuming that indeed other people were witness to it, and you're not making this stuff up. there's still explanation for most of it that aren't supernatural:

> bed shaking
off the top of my head: 1) physical defect in the slats, frame or springs that create buoyancy when pressed just right. 2) an earthquake.
> scratching and closet sounds
rats
> gf
you managed to convince her the house was haunted and she freaked out accordingly
> doors slamming
either draft, or air conditioning creating different pressure between rooms due to temp differences, also hinges that need adjusting or door frames that are slightly tilted (my room door always closes unless positioned just right).
> neighbor getting pinned
one of you is making it up, on meds, or have schizophrenia.

i'm surprised you haven't attempted to document these anon. i would.

>>41120294
> 1) physical defect in the slats, frame or springs that create buoyancy when pressed just right. 2) an earthquake

Eh, that doesn’t make a lot of sense. I’ve never heard of a bed defect that causes shaking like I’m experiencing. And it’s not just one bed, it’s every bed I’ve ever had in every place I’ve ever lived which is a lot. Earthquakes make sense if other people in the house or area experience it but that’s never been the case. It’s happened twice with another person validating it. The first time, she woke me up to ask if she was tripping. Second time we were both awake.

> scratching and closet sounds rats

Never had rats though. Not a single dripping or rat chattering. And again this is everywhere I’ve been. My childhood home, everything was more intense, but it’s still been everywhere I go.

> gf
> you managed to convince her the house was haunted and she freaked out accordingly

lol no way am I telling a girl my house is haunted. 1) that sounds crazy 2) that’s not the right mood for fooling around.
She refused to stay in a room at my house by herself after that for months.

>either draft, or air conditioning creating different pressure between rooms due to temp differences, also hinges that need adjusting or door frames that are slightly tilted (my room door always closes unless positioned just right).

Yea I get how it works. My bedroom at my current place does it all the time when the air turns on. Or at other places I’ve been, when a window in one room is open or maybe closing one door makes another door come out. What I’m experiencing is different. As I said, I close every door in the house when I’m alone.

> neighbor getting pinned, one of you is making it up, on meds, or have schizophrenia.

This happened in Hawaii and the neighbor previously had what looked like a witch come bless the house a few separate times before this event. Not a lie, she actually left stuff.

>>41119895 (OP)
one time in I think 2014 I was on a tour of an old timey house in I think San Diego and I think I might have seen a ghost. part of the house was sectioned off and there were a bunch of old timey objects and clothing on display, the clothing being on mannequins. I was scanning the room and saw a dress just right of the center of the room and I assumed it was on a mannequin, but when I looked back to that part of the room, the dress was gone. I could very easily just be retarded and I misinterpreted what I was seeing at the time, but maybe it really WAS a ghost.

>>41120294
>>41120421
So my childhood home, my parents experienced a bunch of stuff when they moved in. Toys moving on their on, doors and cabinets opening and closing. When I was young, I had a sibling with balloon wall paper in their room. She once came out screaming that all the balloons were popping. With me, I happened to be in a room where a previous owner died. I had friends over constantly and we all experienced weird stuff as I grew up. For example we had electronic toys in the closet that would go off by themselves so we took the batteries out and those toys went off for years every night. We would hear whispering though the walls at night and hear cabinets and doors open and shut in the kitchen when everyone was asleep.

Later on I brought a new friend from school to the house and he realized it was his parents old house where his grandpa died. That was a kinda weird coincidence.

Like I said though, this stuff didn’t stop after I moved.

> you should document it

Never had a reason to. Most of it you can’t predict like bed shaking. Stuff like doors slamming or scratching, a video of weird sounds isn’t going to convince anyone. The more crazy stuff like the neighbor, I can’t predict that though.

Unbelievable as it is, someone I used to be close to also had an experience like the neighbor did like a year before that happened. They told me they were picked up and slammed back into bed multiple times and cried themselves to sleep.

Also, everyone that’s been in my life for any amount of time has been convinced by experience so I don’t have a motivation for it.

>>41120001
Have you considered that all of those are gateways for demons to enter and/or stick around you? I recommend praying to Jesus, I really do

>>41120421
>>41120568
Not so much spirits of dead people as demons taking control of some place. They feed off fear, somehow.

>>41120579
> Not so much spirits of dead people as demons taking control of some place. They feed off fear, somehow.

There’s always more activity when emotions are high. That’s been my biggest realization when it comes to this stuff.

>>41120591
I'm not sure how it all works specifically, but there's a good reason why witchcraft, shamanry and such work off of altered states of mind. I've always thought some concerts where people take drugs and shake their heads around are suspicious.

>>41120598
I didn’t even know my parents knew about this stuff until I was maybe 7 or 8. A friend and I had something happen I forget what, but it freaked us out and I told my parents. We had become convinced leading up to this that something was off about the house.

That’s when my parents sat me down and told me they know. They said that someone died in the house before they got it, that weird shit has always happened there, and they never said anything because they didn’t want us kids freaking out.

Then my mom told me she some shit about her childhood experiences with this stuff, practicing witchcraft type stuff, and idk it seems likes it’s always followed her. And now it obviously follows me.

>>41120636
I have family (mom, uncle) that used to be close to some stuff (don't know the details, just that it was behind closed doors, relations to people who did "important" stuff), weird stuff happened until they prayed to Jesus to be saved by him. These things are real, they try to follow down the bloodline. I've personally experienced a couple things, saw a man that none of the adults saw as a kid a couple times, but nothing recently. I do believe in Jesus, and I recommend Him to you as well in the most gentle way I can through text, at least.

>>41120672
I appreciate the sentiment but I’m allergic to abrahamic religion. By all means if your beliefs help you, I don’t want to take that away. Beliefs should be pragmatic. But I have my own ideas about it all which is really what brings me to this board in the first place.
I do believe you though about your parents and I agree it’s likely associated in some way with family lineage

>>41120683
I definitely get that part about (abrahamic) religion, one thing I will say is that I don't even think of it in those terms. More relational and personal with Jesus as savior than anything else, to me. Bless you at any rate, I pray you have peace from whatever you don't want happening around you.