Thread 41241025

Something about the way this guy has so many brainwashed followers who think he is the smartest man alive when he is promoting himself as a proponent of philosophy and higher knowledge is very unsettling. If you listen to any of his debates he definitely is very manipulative and good at obfuscation and misdirection. Classic pilpul techniques. Also Orthodoxy is basically the same thing as Catholicism. From a purely philosophical standpoint Protestantism makes more metaphysical sense than literal blood rites like transubstantiation.

>>41241025 (OP)
The reason you like protestantism more is that its far more gnostic, you just dont like that he isnt a gnostic. Enjoy seeing this reality and your body as evil and wholly debased, im sure that works out great for you

>>41241025 (OP)
Yeah when I got one of his books a few years ago, I was disappointed.
There's a ton of references to look into, but you have to take his interpretations with a grain of salt.
It just seems like gatekeeping rather than trying to genuinely inform the public.
Not surprised to see the sunglasses and Hawaiian shirts.

The quintessential J. Dyer.

>>41241165
Another one.

>>41241074
What a dumb fucking comment. I
Simply find it more philosophically sound, since Gay Dyer claims to put such an emphasis on it. I am not a Christian. I don’t like any flavor of Jewish mind control. The two things Gnosticism gets right imo is the distinction between spirit and soul and that Yaweh is a demonic entity. All abrahamic Jew on a stick worship denominations believe in original sin.

>>41241025 (OP)
>Also Orthodoxy is basically the same thing as Catholicism.
False. Catholicism is centered around the Papacy, which has clearly fallen into abject degeneracy. Orthodoxy has remained the time and true tested, one true Christian Faith

>>41241180
>>41241157
>>41241165
he looks built for bbc

J Dyer just comes off as debate bro midwit type. Like he's so focused on winning the argument and being right. I grew put of this stage in my mid 20s, and it's normal actually a path to truth.
The truth exists or it dose'nt. It dose'nt need you to argue for it or defend it.
If something like gnostismicm is easy to debunk, they it should be evident to anyone who reads it, and you wouldn't have to burn the scriptures, or people wouldn't have to hide them in the desert.
Allow people to read and think for themselves. They might not come to the same conclusion you did though, and that's the real problem for guys like Jay Dyer. He has to be "right" or his entire existence shatters.

>>41242751
what you're highlighting is the distinction between eristic and dialectic. the conflict between the two ideals has occurred since ancient times, a modern parallel being the well known depiction of the 'blue pill' vs the 'red pill', willful delusion to satisfy ones ego or to hide in fear from uncomfortable truth, vs an unwavering adherence to objective truth and fact regardless of its consequences and implications. ironically if that person claims to be a philosopher yet has no love, devotion, or friendship to wisdom and knowledge... then they are the same exact sophists derided over 2,000 years ago.

the modern youth are quite corrupted by the latter, while thinking they are imbibing the former.

the most effective poison pill is one you take by choice, disguised by the notion that it makes you 'feel better' (satisfy the ego) and is therefore the proper treatment for your affliction (despair due to a lack of knowledge).

>>41243046
>the modern youth are quite corrupted by the latter, while thinking they are imbibing the former.
to clarify since i worded this incorrectly, many distraught people believe they are seeking truth while in reality they are searching for a modified version of the truth (that is often covertly fallacious) that satisfies their ego and its needs to be unique, distinct, and superior. it doesn't require a significant mental exercise to see how and why this is so dangerous and destructive.

>>41241025 (OP)
Yeah he’s a limited hangout who wants everyone focused on goyslop like twin peaks even if it’s better than whatever reality tv the cattle are watching it’s still Hollywood Masonic shit. Which is basically what Dyer is
Issac Weishaupt is the same and even preaches the same message as dyer. I wonder who their handler is, probably a mason

>>41241025 (OP)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9TMqE7BlkcQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VHTQV-BIJ0U

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S0DxUQt5Le0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=46UswqaglPM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rp6s5-Az7HI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LyL7rMfJ7lA

Jay Dyer has lost many debates. Here's some great examples you've probably never seen before.

Jay Dyer is very based and redpilled and he is an expert on philosophy and on exposing the Satanic global Jewish Masonic Zionist socialist agenda and their Hollywood propaganda and vaccines.

I think anybody that has zillions of "brainwashed followers" has like 6 followers and an army of bots.

Nobody is actually stopping people from doing that and it's the only way to actually compete.

Like, just for a lark, check out how many people in the country are either republican or democrat and check the total population of the country.

Odd, huh? Especially odd given how both sides make it appear like literally everyone in the country agrees with them?

>>41244530
Lots of comments on his vids display little evidence of actual thought. Mostly “I used to be Mormon now I’m Catechumen” or “what’s the best Orthodox Church in my area?”

>>41244330
What is this faggotry. Are you an atheist?

>>41242415
The Greek Orthodox are performing baptisms for gay couples

>>41241025 (OP)
I agree. He's defenitely controlled op.

>>41241294
>get corrected
>sperg out
kek. brown hands wrote that post

Please tell me there are no Dyerites here. This is no Christian. And his buddy Andrew Wilson is even worse. Stick to Catholic theologians.

>>41244414
Ok I can partially grant this. I've seen bits and pieces of this but never seen him go all in. Got a suggestion for a great Dyer video where he names them?

>>41246818
>Brown hands
wrote your book of Talmudic fairy tales.

>>41242415
That’s basically the one difference. I thought I didn’t need to state the obvious.

>>41242415
Orthodox has its own version of the pedo leader
> His All-Holiness Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I is the current spiritual leader of the Eastern Orthodox Christians worldwide

>>41242467
Only time someone has used this on this website and gets my approval

>>41241025 (OP)
He’s obvious about it too

>>41241025 (OP)
Look at Richard Doty, there are many Iike him and they're all infiltrating different groups not just Ayy shit

>>41241025 (OP)
every single fed pushes christianity and shits all over white man's religions, because you HAVE to accept jewish fairy tales from a middle eastern cult into your life otherwise you're a jew according to feds on this website. Jay Dyer is just one of many feds, who all coincidentally push christianity, and you see this in catholic circles, orthodox circles etc. because christianity is not the white man's religion and the jews are scared now that it's losing popularity as the main religion in the west.

>>41246366
What contradiction is entailed by God's non-existence?

>>41244330
Don't forget his debate with LiquidZulu. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-4jxx6SLtU

>>41244330
>>41248321
there's this debate that Jay Dyer lost as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuubVfEY5Jw

>>41247223
That is Patriarch Kirill of Moscow in the picture.
Bartholomew is the Patriarch in Constantonople. Also no Patriarch is the leader of the whole Church like a Pope.

>>41246845
Jay Dyer is based and you are wrong.

>>41246856
He names them in lots of videos but here for example at the 24:00 time mark he talks about how Jews and Zionism are closely connected with Marxism, socialism, feminism, open borders, anti-white propaganda, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CwbAtMsp3Y

>>41249123
Later in the video talks about the Frankfurt School man Wilhelm Reich of Ukrainian Jewish heritage and how he wanted to destroy the patriarchy with feminism.

>>41249079
And the two of them excommunicated each other because Orthodoxy is just a collection of ethnic churches with no coordination

>>41249149
Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople is liberal and aligned with the US Demoncratic party.
Patriarch Kirill of Moscow (pictured here) is very conservative and traditional.

>>41241025 (OP)
He’s a glownigger who is terrified of Gnosticism, he has no defense against it. From what I’ve seen he can’t debate Gnostics without kicking them out of the debate when he (quickly) starts losing. His followers are even more pathetic, and will do anything their shabbos golem master tells them to do.

>>41249365
Gnosticism is Satanic Jewish propaganda.

>>41249123
>>41249136
Yet he still pushes Jew on a stick religion on white people.
>>41249402
It’s better and aspects of it more compatible with “euro” spirituality than some gay pseudo Catholicism. Also in that vid you posted he literally says “I studied under someone who studied under the Frankfurt school guys”.

>>41249402
No, Gnosticism is the opposite of Satanism. Gnosticism is the original Christianity before it was inverted by Satanic jews and their bloodline masters. There’s nothing that the jews and their glowies fear more than Gnosticism.

>>41241025 (OP)
bruh

>>41251689
Yes bruh?

>>41241025 (OP)

Are you a protestant? No wonder he makes you seethe. Epistemology is an amazing brainlet filter. I consistently crush people in debates since I started studying it more seriously and taking notes form Jay's debates.

>>41241025 (OP)

>If you listen to any of his debates he definitely is very manipulative and good at obfuscation and misdirection.

No, you're just too dumb to understand epistemology.


>Also Orthodoxy is basically the same thing as Catholicism

No they're not. They're nothing alike. You're a fucking protestant lol.

>>41247182

seethe harder pagan porn addict

>>41247223

patriarchs aren't a pope you retarded amerimutt.

Why are none of his critics here actually going into specifics? I think he's very knowledgeable about certain topics but in practice he doesn't come off as someone with a lot of grace and the behavior of him and his fans can be off putting at times sure, but we all have our faults. I think it's interesting that any time anyone critiques him it just boils down to "he's mean" and it's never specifically what he's wrong about.
Like this >>41250849
Just nonsense out of thin air with nothing to back it up.
Or like >>41249465
where it's just ambiguities.

Not trying to do the whole "debate me bro" thing but you can find videos of him debating gnostics, he even had an hour and a half debate with one a while back.

>>41252986
What on gods green earth is ambiguous about “he is pushing religion”? Doesn’t make him for sure a glownigger but it sure fits the pattern. I even have a screen grabbing him encouraging others to make orthodox propaganda vids because “lots are ready to convert!” And to draw them in with off topic stuff before getting to the main point.
>>41252912
Oh look, another dyer fag mindlessly repeating his talking points. Considering Gay believes in transubstantiation, I’d say he is too dumb to understand “epistemology” himself. You absolute retarded cvck. And no, I’m not Protestant or any variant of Jew on stick worshipper. But it’s less cringe than larping as some crappy Catholicism rip off.

>>41252916
Pray harder Talmudic golem. Don’t watch porn btw.

>>41252902
Funny stuff. So you believe in virgin birth, gay make believe “triune Yaweh”, transubstantiation, and being baptized closeted homo monks. Yet you are “crushing debates” using epistemology. Your faggots whole “justification” for all those beliefs, is the fucking Torah, and a bunch more Jewshite from the NT.

>>41241025 (OP)
Yes he is controlled opposition like alex jones
also on a tangent, here is something interesting if you didnt know already:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7pAFqUE4P0

>>41253043
>Jew on a stick religion
You're mocking Christ like a Jew, except they're more vulgar when they do it while pushing your own worldview without going into any specifics about why his in particular is wrong or yours is right.

> it sure fits the pattern
Said the guy pushing his own worldview. So congrats, by your own logic, you're a glownigger.

And yeah, lots are ready to convert. If you actually were open minded enough to step foot into an Orthodox Church instead of being a larping faggot, you'd see many of them are full of new young converts.

Your point on transubstantiation is retarded, you'd be able to see that if you understood his arguments about epistemology.

>>41253101
Yes, not buying into Jew mind control cult of Christianity definitely makes me more Jewish than someone who 50% of your holy book is the literal Torah. Great example
Of epistemology, faggot.
>you’d understand transubstantiation if you just watched more gay dyer
Ha

>>41253101
Actively seeking to convert people by disingenuous means is different from stating one’s belief. So far doesn’t sound like all the epistemology brainwashing has done you much good, Mr. NPC.

Those Jews are reacting their talmud day by day there must be a reason for this deep state madness!

>>41253168
Rejecting Christ is probably the most Jewish thing you can do yes.
>50% of your holy book is the literal Torah.
So the Jews are wrong about everything except here where they say that the religion of the Old Testament is totally their religion because, ugh look you just can't accept Christianity because then you wouldn't be the edgy teenager that you are.

>you’d understand transubstantiation if you just watched more gay dyer
You could watch every second of every video he's ever made and it wouldn't make a difference. I didn't say watch more, I said you'd understand (not agree with) his view on transubstantiation if you understood his epistemology which you obviously don't and it's not surprising because only a retard like yourself could think that what I was saying there was to just watch more of his stuff.

>Actively seeking to convert people by disingenuous means
Wow more ambiguity, but I guess an NPC like me would call you out on that wouldn't I? How has he disingenuously sought to convert people? By telling people to go out and make videos on Orthodox Christianity? How is that disingenuous? Because it's pRoPaGaNdA? What you're doing right now could fall under the definition of propaganda, guess that makes you disingenuous as well.

>>41253197
worshipping christ is the most jewish thing you can do. This is why your numbers are going down and more and more young people like myself are pagan, not christcuck losers who worship judaism. This is why you retards are so scared and are constantly regurgitating the same filthy NPC arguments like "nuh uh UR the jew! rejecting jewsus means ur jew!" without further elaboration because you're an npc retard who's mind controlled by jews

>>41253197
also for the record being disingenuous is calling christianity white when it clearly is a brown man's religion, and nothing a retard like you can say will change that. Jay Dyer is a fucking fed who manipulates people because that is what he''s TRAINED to do. Fuck you feds and your jewish ways of talking are annoying.

If you weren't wrong then why are you losing the youth? People are waking up to what christianity is. You are a submissive subhuman.

>>41253282
>worshipping christ is the most jewish thing you can do
Worshipping the person that Jews explicitly reject is the most Jewish thing you can do? Are you going to actually defend that position or just repeat it over and over?

>This is why your numbers are going down and more and more young people like myself are pagan
I see plenty of young people in my parish and there's more and more and it's the same story everywhere. Where are you getting your numbers from? Also "paganism" is a wide umbrella term that could mean any number of things to any number of people so not only are you committing the argumentum ad populum fallacy, but because you're you, you're doing it in as retarded a way as you probably can.

> This is why you retards are so scared and are constantly regurgitating the same filthy NPC arguments like "nuh uh UR the jew! rejecting jewsus means ur jew!" without further elaboration because you're an npc retard who's mind controlled by jews
Yet you haven't presented a case for why Christianity is Jewish despite the fact that you know I'd call you out on it especially since I've called you out on being ambiguous multiple times in this thread. You just keep repeating "Jew" and equivocating on the word as if that's an argument because you don't understand how to make an argument.

>being disingenuous is calling christianity white when it clearly is a brown man's religion
Where did Jay call Christianity white? Again, if you understood what he was saying, you would understand that the religion is universally true which would necessarily mean that it also would include non whites. But you don't even want to try and justify your worldview to make sense of anything because you honestly couldn't.

>>41253303
>Jay Dyer is a fucking fed who manipulates people
How does he manipulate people? How do you know he's a fed? Just more assertions without anything to back it up.

>>41253303
>If you weren't wrong then why are you losing the youth?
So whatever young people believe is the truth? Well I guess you're not into the whole white ethnonationalist thing are you because most young people wouldn't agree with that. Is illustrating it that way enough to convince you of how retarded of a point that is? How does whatever the consensus is among young people determine what's true? Even if I were to grant you that there were no Christians under the age of 25, it wouldn't matter. Can you actually make any argument? Both in the sense of can you present an argument and in the sense of do you possess the capability to do so because I've asked you multiple times now and either you can't or you won't and I'm not sure which. I think it's the former though.

>>41253387
You are talking to more than one person boomer.
>>41253384
If rabbi Christs comingnsomehow invalidated all of Judaism you would just throw out the Torah. Cope anyway you want, your religion is Jewish in nature regardless of how much Christ golems cope about “new covenant” etc.

>>41253475
>You are talking to more than one person boomer.
I've responded to one post at a time and my posts can be read as though I'm speaking to two individual retards.

>If rabbi Christs comingnsomehow invalidated all of Judaism you would just throw out the Torah.
So like I said before, I have to accept what the Jews have to say about the Old Testament and not what Christians have to say about the Old Testament? Jews are wrong about everything else and can't be trusted about anything, except this one very specific topic, then you can trust them wholeheartedly in what they say even though you have to equivocate and fall for the word concept fallacy to get there. You genuinely have to be a teenager that hasn't thought about this or a retard to think this way.

Isn't the Torah Arabic old testament?

>>41253499
>word concept fallacy
Parroting professor gay again. Do you have a single original thought? Explain what word concept fallacy I committed. Is or is not the Old Testament literally the Torah? Yes or no?
Universalism is literally the most Jewish mindset imaginable. Jay Dyer admits this in so many ways and yet still promotes a religion he admits is the origin of SJWism (aka another Jewish ideology as he has also directly stated)

>>41253384
literally no one denies christianity being a middle eastern religion, and it was clearly invented by jews. If this wasn't the case there wouldn't be jews like Ben Shapiro and Denis Prager literally talking about how scared they are that christianity is dying. You can lie all you want about what people say and misrepresent arguments but the jews literally have a vested interest in christianity and any attempt to divorce the two is just more jewish lies. For fucks sake you people are insane lol

Literally nothing you say is backed up with any evidence lol but sure, keep misrepresenting my words. I wasn't saying something is true JUST BECAUSE young people believe in it you fucking illiterate retard, just that if your religion had a future which it clearly doesn't then why would young people be looking for stronger more aryan religion? And you call ME a boomer lol fucking retard.

>>41253384
to add to what the pther dude said, jews don't reject jesus, they invented him and pretend to hate him as part of the "lore" if you will. It's funny how you never ever provide any evidence or counter arguments to what anyone says and just cry out as you strike people lol if you could think critically and cared about the white race you wouldn't be inerested in middle eastern death cults

>>41253581
there's like three of us schooling this retard and all he ever does is use leftist-type word games and acts jewish. I appreciate your ability to argue better than I can, as I'm not as succinct. But still, I think this dude is a fed, I've seen posts eerily similar to what he's typed, like almost word for word on another board like a week ago probably because his brown hands are typing in multiple threads on different boards typing the same crap lol

>>41253581
>Explain what word concept fallacy
You're comparing Jews of today to Jews of the Old Testament
>Universalism is literally the most Jewish mindset imaginable
Is that universally true?

>>41253637
>literally no one denies christianity being a middle eastern religion
The geographic location it originated from doesn't matter in terms of the truth value.
>there wouldn't be jews like Ben Shapiro and Denis Prager literally talking about how scared they are that christianity is dying
Oh so I can trust Jews here, but in other places I can't. How do you reliably discern when it is that you trust what Jews say and when you don't?
>You can lie all you want about what people say and misrepresent arguments
Where have I done that?
>jews literally have a vested interest in christianity
In certain denominations sure, they've invested money into projects like the Scofield Bible for example
>Literally nothing you say is backed up with any evidence lol but sure, keep misrepresenting my words. I wasn't saying something is true JUST BECAUSE young people believe in it you fucking illiterate retard
So when you said, "If you weren't wrong then why are you losing the youth?" you didn't actually mean losing the youth is a demonstration of me being wrong? And me not being able to divine that you didn't mean what you said is a sign of me being an illiterate retard. And you're still appealing to what religion young people are choosing as a demonstration of who is correct which may or may not be true but isn't a reliable way to tell which religion is true. Also I never called you a boomer, I was quoting you calling me a boomer. That's what the greentext typically means on 4chan the way I used it, you idiot.

>>41253642
>to add to what the pther dude said, jews don't reject jesus, they invented him and pretend to hate him as part of the "lore" if you will.
>It's funny how you never ever provide any evidence or counter arguments
I painstakingly respond to every point you guys make with counterarguments. Also, do you have any evidence that Jews don't reject Jesus or that they invented him and pretend to hate him as part of the lore?
>if you could think critically and cared about the white race you wouldn't be inerested in middle eastern death cults
From my paradigm, wanting white people to convert to Christianity is because I care about them.

>>41253648
>all he ever does is use leftist-type word games and acts jewish
Like where? By asking you to avoid ambiguities and fallacies? Is that "Jewish" Or "leftist-type word games"?
>I appreciate your ability to argue better than I can
No wonder you find this bullshit convincing lol
>I think this dude is a fed, I've seen posts eerily similar to what he's typed, like almost word for word on another board like a week ago probably because his brown hands are typing in multiple threads on different boards typing the same crap lol
That's the evidence that I'm a fed? Lol. Lmao even

>>41254282
>Oh so I can trust Jews here, but in other places I can't. How do you reliably discern when it is that you trust what Jews say and when you don't?
I can ask yourfat onions drinking ass the same question, why would jews be worried about christianity declinng? Why would they be complaining at all? If jews hate christianity like you try to pretend then why would they be scared? And thankfully you didn't just deny it and hand wave it away so for that you actually get a small amount of my respect. Just genuinely ask yourself why though, sincerely.

Also the youth not going to christianity as much shows that you're wrong about your specific observations, and it shows christianity doesn't ave a future. It doesn't mean us young people are always right, just that if the YOUTH are losing faith in the jew on a stick religion then the religion itself dies out. You have to admit a religions survival literally depends on each generation passing down the belief system, if people stop then the religion dies. Unless of course in the future it's rediscovered, but that isn't a guarantee.

I hope that makes sense lol

>>41254296
>Also, do you have any evidence that Jews don't reject Jesus or that they invented him and pretend to hate him as part of the lore?
the fact that you even asked this question is fucking insane and makes you mind controlled. Half of your holy book is the Torah and the entirety of christianity is LITERALLY invented by jews, they even admit it. We already proved it to you, you're just to stupid to read what we said.
>From my paradigm, wanting white people to convert to Christianity is because I care about them.
No, you hate white people. Only a racial cuck pushes christianity in 2025. If you're a non-white I would have much more respect for you because then that would partially explain it, whether out of malice or because you genuinely think christianity isn't a garbage religion (for whatever reason) but the entire reason the west is falling apart is because of christianity. It's slave morality and weakness, you should read Nietzsche to get a better understanding of what I'm saying since he explains it quite well, but Adolf Hitler also understood this. That's why Germany almost won WWII, because they had a pagan revival and christianity was seriously declining in WWII, but that was after Hitler was elected and played ball with the christcucks of that era and pretended to like christianity, even though by the end of the war he was disgusted with it. As he should be.

But that's another topic entirely, 'm just bringing that up as an added historical example.

>>41254508
>why would jews be worried about christianity declinng?
Because Christians in America support Israel. These are Christians that believe in false things like dispensationalism which stem from propaganda from sources like the Scofield Bible which I already brought up. Now that I answered your question, I'll ask mine for the third time. Why is it that you trust Jews on their interpretation of the Old Testament and how do you reliably discern what it is you can and can't trust them on?

>Also the youth not going to christianity
That's not what I see and that's not what many others see either in different churches but even if that were the case, it wouldn't make it true. Yes if what you were saying is true it would potentially mean that the religion has no future unless there were some sort of revival, but that has no bearing whatsoever on the truth value.

>>41254530
But I don't even concede that I worship the same deity as the Jews of today. But according to you I have to abandon what my Church and Saints have taught for thousands of years to accept what modern Jews who can't be trusted on anything else believe about this one very specific thing because... Just because? Or can you actually provide a reliable way to discern when I can and can't trust what Jews have to say.

The rest of your response is nonsense. You haven't read more than quotes by Nietzsche and most Germans in the first half of the 20th century were Christian. Why don't you and your ilk ever talk about Otto von Bismarck's views on Christianity for example? Was he not an important figure in German history? Do his views not matter? No, it's always just out of context quotes, a misinterpretation of the current state of things, and historical ignorance that form the foundation of why the west is in decline.

>>41254711
>Because Christians in America support Israel. These are Christians that believe in false things like dispensationalism which stem from propaganda from sources like the Scofield Bible which I already brought up.

Wow what a fucking cop out, they weren't just talking about christians in america, they were speaking about the GLOBAL decline of christianity. Nevermind, you earned zero respect, and of course you try to use a specific denomination to prove your point.

>Now that I answered your question, I'll ask mine for the third time. Why is it that you trust Jews on their interpretation of the Old Testament and how do you reliably discern what it is you can and can't trust them on?

Because they INVENTED your fucking holy book and are worried about christianity's global collapse.

>hurr durr that's not what I see
well you're a fed retard who lies so that's that, and even if what you saw is correct, it doesn't matter. It's not what I see, so either way it's anecdotes VS anecdotes.

I can explain more, but I don't feel like linking all the clips of various rabbi's praising christianity as a good religion for the goyim, and top rabbis and media jews complaining about whites turning away from it. Maybe someone else less lazy will. Thing is, no amount of evidence will change your mind, assuming you're not a glowie (which I am definitely sure you are) because evidence doesn't matter to you. Christians are literal brainwashed cattle.

>But according to you I have to abandon what my Church and Saints have taught for thousands of years
You don't even KNOw what your church taught, that's the issue. PROVE that the jews of today aren't the ones from the bible. I'll ask again. Go ahead and prove it.

>>41254711
>The rest of your response is nonsense waaah
so you refuse to read Nietzsche and arrogantly claim I haven't, and then proceed to rub your period blood over the floor with your ass cheeks while you whine and pretend you know anything about world war II history.

Here I'll help you out with something Hitler himself has written about "What a difference between the benevolent, smiling Zeus and the pain-wracked, crucified Christ. ... What a difference between a gloomy cathedral and a light, airy ancient temple."

^ see this? Go ahead and have wave that away you fucking dunce. Do I have to link historical documents just to prove it? Since you can't do your own research? Or will you be a man for once in your life and accept you were wrong for once?

Bare in mind during world war 1 he wrote poems to Odin. Not your wimpy bitch christ, and christianity was most assuredly dying in Germany in WWII, if the majority were christian it was a slim majority, and most of Hitler's personal forces, the Friekorps I believe, were all pagan. So go fuck yourself.

You are disgustingly bad mxjsaat your job, fat fed boi.

>>41254891
Do you think the Christians Israel has been dropping bombs on in Gaza support Israel? Have you read what Saints like Saint John Chrysostom (who Eastern Orthodox read from every week) have said about Jews?

You haven't provided an adequate way to reliably discern when a Jew is telling the truth and when he's lying. You're just repeating the assertion.

So I have to trust what you say and not my own eyes about where Christianity is today even though the entire argument about the numbers is again, irrelevant to the truth claim and me pointing that out somehow makes me a lying fed?

It doesnt matter what evidence you provide because you still haven't told me when I can and when I can't trust Jews. If what Jews say fits with your narrative, then I can trust them completely? That's not a good way to tell what's true.

>prove the Jews today aren't the ones from the Bible
I think the Old Testament taught that Jesus is God and that prophets like Abraham and Elijah worshipped Him. Modern Jews don't believe that Jesus is God and therefore they cannot be the Jews of the Old Testament. Now that I have replied to you and answered your questions yet again, let me ask you for what might be the fourth time, how can I reliably discern when a Jew is lying and when a Jew is being truthful? I don't get why it is you refuse to answer this question.

>>41254920
Way to change the topic to one you're wrong about, you haven't demonstrated that you've read Nietzsche and you continue to cherry pick quotes like I called you out on. By the way your powerful ancestors couldn't stop Christianity :)

>>41241025 (OP)
>this guy has so many brainwashed followers who think he is the smartest man alive
Only to 16yo kids with poor literacy (aka ameritards)

If you are retarded enough to get "spiritual advice" from a moron with neon lights setup and using shades indoors, you deserve to be grifted

>>41241025 (OP)
>From a purely philosophical standpoint
The presumption that religious ritual is intended to conform to your notion of philosophical sense is a little daft.

>>41254928
>You haven't provided an adequate way to
here you go again with this vague point, I argued why jews are in favor of christianity. You lost that argument so now you're just regurgitating that there's times the jews are lying and times they're telling the truth. Christianity clearly benefits them so whenever they say positive things about it which affirms this why would they lie? Again, you lack reading comprehension and are just a retard,

>So I have to trust what you say
all I said was it's my anecdotes vs yours, why are you even still on about this? Drop it, it's not relevant.

>when I can and when I can't trust Jews
you trust the jews when they fit your narrative, I trust what the jews say only when it aligns with the reality on the ground. When Rome was pagan it was better off, when Hitler lead a pagan revival Germany became a super power. Jews complaining that christianity is failing when in every other historical context when it was failing it lead to a negative outcome for them, or them having less control, it makes sense they would complain. I'm not taking them at their word, I'm looking at WHY they would like christianity, because it's a great way to control people for jewish interests and this is evident by the fact that whenever christianity started to fail the white race got stronger.

If you had any reading comprehension this wouldn't be hard to understand.

>bible is real blah blah blah
you believe this, you believe that. All because you were told to. All because the jews weaved a narrative of fake conflict between some jews of the past and a fictional character who never existed, to which jews of today have no issue with jesus, and so that actually aligns with jews of the past, but you choose to ignore this fact.

I answered your stupid fucking question, multipletimes now. If you cannot understand the english language to tis extent I don't know how else to answer your shcizo question.

>>41254933
christianity spread because most people are weak and simply weren't strong enough for ancient beliefs. Most people are NPCs like you who just want to worship a dead rabbi and get a cool afterlife where they can not care what happens after that, like the mudslimes and their 72 virgins. The exact same logic explains why communism spread and why weak commies overtook powerful civilizations. Christians were weak effeminate losers lead by jews to overthrow every civilization they were a part of, simple as. Commies want free shit, christians want an afterlife they don't have to work for. Just accept a jew on a stick and that's that. No matter what. If christianity hadn't existed we would be hundreds of years more advanced and your flabby ass likely wouldn't have been born, lol. If only.

You've never read Nietzsche and are just a retard who uses ad hom while providing no counter arguments to my evidence so why would I give you more stuff Nietzsche said? You're not fooling anyone,

>>41255160
>here you go again with this vague point
It's a very specific question thats crucial to the discussion and I've had to ask it multiple times now. And your answer to the question is so retarded that you're suggesting I just drop the point altogether. You're telling me Christianity benefits them so why would they lie? Well clearly it hasn't benefited them through most of history except in the last couple of centuries and what stops a Jew from lying if it benefits them? So again, you have no actual way to explain how it is I can tell if a Jew is telling the truth or they're lying, I just have to distrust them about everything except this topic here which isn't vague as it's at the crux of their identity.

>you trust the jews when they fit your narrative
Where have I done this?
>I trust what the jews say only when it aligns with the reality on the ground
Yet you've demonstrated you don't have a clear understanding of how to discern what's true from what's not

Your historical examples don't matter when it comes to the truth value of Christianity you fucking dolt. Even if I were to grant everything you said about history, it wouldn't change whether or not Christianity is true.

>I'm not taking them at their word, I'm looking at WHY they would like christianity, because it's a great way to control people for jewish interests and this is evident by the fact that whenever christianity started to fail the white race got stronger.
So Martin Luther had the same views on Christianity as your modern American evangelical Christian? You have no idea about anything in history because you don't read anything. And that's interesting that European nations seem to have allowed hordes of third worlders into the continent after the second world War after European nations stopped being Christian. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence you'll hand wave because you're retarded.

How could Eve know it was evil to eat from the tree of good and evil if she hadn't eaten from it yet?

>>41255160
Your entire point about the Bible is just as retarded as the rest of what you've said which isn't shocking. I've demonstrated why modern Jews aren't the same as the Jews of the Old Testament clearly and concisely. You keep making the claim that we should trust them when they say they are just because you're a retard that thinks he's special and so he has to reject Christianity for some retarded notion of paganism which is a piece meal pile of incoherent nonsense. You don't know anything about history, philosophy, theology, and it's painfully obvious.

>christianity spread because most people are weak and simply weren't strong enough for ancient beliefs
Wait but you told me Rome was strong when it was pagan, now it was simultaneously too weak to fend off Christianity?

You've never read Nietzsche and it's obvious to anyone who has by the way you cherry pick quotes.

I see parishioner faggot is still here coping in golem. Maybe you should ask dr. Gay for good advice on making TikTok’s to help convert us.

>>41258340
You forgot to call me a fed and a Jew. I get paid for each time you guys call me that as an added commission so make sure to get those in

>>41241074
The satanic doctrine of Divine Simplicity is the most Gnostic thing ever. God bless any Protestants who have the courage to stand up against it. Neoplatonism is the last snare of the Antichrist.

>>41256420
What’s evil?

>>41241025 (OP)
I mean he hosts the 4th hour of infowars and pretends new Alex Jones is the same guy as before (along with all the other controlled opposition influencers). Plus he uses a knockoff James Bond 007 for his theme (007 = Dr. John Dee).

That's all yall have. Call someone names or label them a fed, because you can't beat him in a debate. I'm sure you're one of those dudes who called into his show and got embarrassed. So instead of educating yourself, you just try and build an army of haters to discredit him.

Expose people like RomaArmy or Notsoeurdite. Those are true grifters.

>>41256411
>>41256432
anyone reading this fucking drivel will know our a fed, you aren't worth arguing with. Yu had wave away every single thing and intentionally misrepresent everyone's points.
>it doesn't benefit them just cuz
>u don know whats true heh
>european nations stopped being christian after WWII
they DIDn'T stop being christian after WWII you fucking retard, thats why Hitler tried to stop christianity and failed! Holy fuck this guy is a retard.

That's it, I'm done. I'mnot even going to bother with the rest of this kike's bullshit non-arguments because it's just gonna be the same "gotcha" arguments and retardation and misdirection every single time. You're a fed and not a very smart one at that.

>Wait but you told me Rome was strong when it was pagan, now it was simultaneously too weak to fend off Christianity?
As IFUCKING SAID before, most people are NPCs, strong civilizations get brought down. By your own logic strong christian nations were brought down by jews and limp wristed commies, just like pagan civz were brought down by limp wristed christians but that youd be impossible right?

What a fucking clown, you just get emotional and ignore everything anyone ever says. If you aren't a fed, then christians like you need to be curb stomped into their graves. Fucking bitch.

>>41259478
lol you lost and are now whining like a bitch. Thats all you have, is asking the same stupid questions and ignoring and hand waving evidence and answers. Keep regurgitaing the same programming.

>>41241165
>>41241180
What is the deal with the Hawaiian shirts? Is this how they ID their kosher/CIA/mason colleagues?

>>41259478
Get back to writing Sam’s monologues you fake Christian fed.

>>41259478

Dyer doesn't debate he uses appeals to authority (his degrees), talks over people, and weasles his way out when backed into a corner by saying "well thats not what we believe" which isnt an argument in a debate because it cant be refuted. He's all show and cheap tricks.

>>41259538
he's too busy taking it up the ass like a good submissive slave morality appreciator, who's never read Nietzsche or a history book but will claim his detractors haven't, when his jewish faith is questioned.

He'll be back in a bit to repeat his programming and say the same stuff later I'm sure.

>>41259510
Thank you for calling me a fed again, I get paid whenever you say it.
>it doesn't benefit them just cuz
I explicitly mentioned how and where it benefited them
>u don know whats true heh
I asked you to clearly explain how you discern when a Jew is being honest or not and instead of being able to respond you flipped out
>european nations stopped being christian after WWII
There has clearly been a decline in Christianity post World War 2. Hitler now tried to stop Christianity? You seriously need to read a book. These aren't gotcha arguments, you're just crashing out because you haven't critically thought about this nonsense you've bought whole cloth and you think being this contrarian makes you seem smart and edgy when it doesn't. You'll understand this more when you get older.

>By your own logic strong christian nations were brought down by jews and limp wristed commies
I mean there were more groups at play but yes, I'm consistent with my position at least and we can actually point to Jews/limp wristed commies that played a role in taking down Christian Europe.

>>41259523
That was someone else you schizo idiot lol. You're the one crashing out here and getting emotional. I had to repeat the same question to you over and over because you refused it and you presented no evidence despite trying to throw red herrings. You can keep crying about me repeating the same question but it's because you know you don't have an answer to it. Anyone who can take a moment to think clearly about this, which you can't since you're too busy acting like an emotional woman to do, can understand that it's a simple question that's important to the discussion.

>>41259581
You're not fooling me or anyone else. We all know you haven't read Nietzsche. Now it's just fun to watch you crash out and bitch and moan over me asking you one simple question that you should have an answer for but don't because you're an idiot. Simple as. Keep calling me names, I bet that'll work eventually.

Jesus is in the realm in Israel now!

>>41259581
Nietzsche admired many parts of Judaism and saw it as a much more valid theology than Christianity.

>>41259710
yes because it's master morality, not slave morality like christianity. Jews get to enjoy a religion that empowers them and is racially tied to them, not a shitty slave morality univeralist religion like christianity.

European paganism was the white man's true religion, there was an aryan mother religion and each european culture understood this religion.

So when Nietzsche talked about judaism he was talking about it's empowering nature towards the jews. christianity was invented to substitute the old religions of europe and subjugate and spiritually disempower. You can choose to not believe this if you want but this is the reality.

>>41259684
>fed
We will call you a fed as many times as we want, since it clearly makes you seethe so much lol
>I asked you to clearly explain how you discern when a Jew is being honest or not and instead of being able to respond you flipped out
no, I just answered your question to which you proceeded to ignore everything.

I am consistent in my position that limp wristed christians and jews took out pagan europe, where was I ever inconsistent? SO you admit and concede that a strong civilization can be taken down by a weaker group of people? And also there was a lot more at play with pagan europe's destruction, but the fact that you couldn't even understand what I was saying earlier is telling.
>Hitler was a christcuck, christianity declined after WWII blah blah blah
Again with the immature retardation, and ad hom. You never brought up anything Nietzsche said, nor did you disprove anything. Try again.

You literally cannot prove ANYTHING you say, and never make cogent arguments. Grow up and become a man, or KYS lol but calling me an edgy teenager for not wanting to believe in a jewish god is pretty retarded. Especially since you never provided evidence countering anything I said about WWII, Nietzsche or anything else. Because you don't read anything and just regurgitate the same old talking points.

>>41259684
>I explicitly mentioned how and where it benefited them
what? When? And who benefited from what? Do you even know what you're responding to? You're a fucking schizo lol

Maybe if you woud stick to a specific point instead of bogging everything down withmultiple points at once you'd be able to seem like an actual adult instead of a whiny brat.

>>41259836
It's funny because I specifically talked about how christianity benefits the jews and specifically brought up historical examples but he hand waved it away. He posts so many different lines of bullshit at a time I don't even respond to every single point because it's just minutia. Good catch though.

>>41259843
he's probably a bot, but in the event he's not I'm curious what he'll say lol his arguments make christians look really bad if he's not a bot or a fed.

After stumbling across his videos I started to imagine what his philosophy papers were like, and judging by his argumentative style, every single paper would probably have been based on "because the scriptures say so", which to me sounds like the laziest "philosophically sound" route you could take to getting a good grade without actually having to think very hard about anything. His entire debate style relies on the "transcendental argument for god" which is really just a rhetorical trap for people who don't have a strong background in academic style logic. He puts forth the question "where does knowledge come from?" most answers, say if you said "from my sensory experience" are invalidated by arguments like "you didn't get your idea about knowledge coming from sensory experience from sensory experience". It's honestly kind of pathetic. I'm not a christian but I find it pretty gross someone is arguing for christianity by just using stupid traps. He strikes me as someone who just didn't want to put effort into college papers. He is a dumb person's idea of a smart person. Kind of like an alternate version of the streamer Destiny.

>>41241025 (OP)
i don't even know who this is

>>41241294
>It's Jewish mind control
Jesus told the Pharisees that they worship a liar and a murderer. Do you want to guess what ethno-religious group stems from the Pharisees? You get one guess.

Your analysis of Christianity IS the jewish mind control. Christianity was nothing more than a way for the Greeks to incorporate their Mithaic rites/cult of vulkan practices etc into something that would gives jewish people a potential out from their wickedness. Christ shares it's root with Christos and it's not coincidence that gnostics believed in Christ and Sophia. The earliest mention of the alchemical magnun opus was called Chrysopoeia (Christ-Sophia). Not a coincidence. Christos. Christ oil. The chinks call it the lower cosmic orbit. The jeets call it kundalini awakening and spiritually dead westerners call it satanism.

>>41259967
>Jesus told the Pharisees
>made up jewish fictional character designed to fool whites said some stuff
yeah you aren't fooling anyone, it's like me writing a fanfiction that I banged your mom and a bunch of people believe it. Doesn't mean it happened.

Don't try to link your jewish fairytales to the greek civilization. So you have a word that vaguely sounds like christ and you try to link the two concepts. It's faulty logic. you should bring up flat earth and numerology, it sounds up your alley if this is your argument.

Now since you didn't give me a massive text wall and stuck to a distinct point (which I appreciate) I'll assume you're a different person than the retard I was arguing with earlier. You're still wrong and mind controlled, but I want to know what you meant by
>The chinks call it the lower cosmic orbit. The jeets call it kundalini awakening and spiritually dead westerners call it satanism.

This doesn't make sense to me, are you saying these are all versions of the same thing, being christianity? What? I'm genuinely confused here.

>>41259967
btw I'm not the guy that you were responding to, but I hope he replies and dishes out some truth on your ass. Still, if you happen to read what I said I want to know how a fanfic of me banging your mom is any less credible or believable than jesus arguing with pharisees in your jewish holy book.

>>41259545

>Dyer doesn't debate he uses appeals to authority (his degrees)

kek you fucking brainlet liar. does epistemology scare you that much?

>>41259478

this

>>41259538

>muh christian feds

are you a tranny?

>>41253052

troon

>>41253070

red herring fallacies. you're a retard. i know why Jay makes people seethe. because when he explains epistemic justification and TAG, retards can sense they don't have the cognitive abilities to comprehend his arguments so its easier to just accuse him of all sorts of things and resort to character assassination.

absolutely pathetic but ill admit it makes me feel better knowing im smarter than all the mongs on /x/ and /pol/.

>>41244145
He has some decent stuff on fabian society and carrol quigleys works. He’s read a lot of elitist texts also as opposed to message board faggots who get their political opinions from fake quotes, infographs and memes.
He’s 100% right when he takes the piss out of poltards screaming about jews when it is and was always the anglo pulling the strings.
That being said he babbles and goes off on a tangent far too often and his ego is too big imo which makes him annoying

>>41253168
>biblical God is the jewish god
This statement is fundamentally wrong on every level.

First, the biblical God is beyond race or region, he is the objective most high. The source of all things. He is what the gnostics call Monad, the Manitou of the native Americans, the "unknown God" of the greeks. He is referenced by many cultures as the source of all things just, due to them never interacting with him merely acknowledge his existence and works, but lack the personal revelations of his he brought.

2. Modern Kikes are the Pharisee which themselves are Edomitic converts. The Bible says that LITERALLY God called them "Brood of Vipers", "Children of the devil" and "Hypocrites". They descend from the Amalek the Israelites were commanded to genocide for the evil, which themselves come from the infamous Canaanites that worship Moloch. Calling the Bible or God "Jewish" is then either meaningless as there is nothing to relate that word too or directly wrong when you try to relate it to the modern Kikes

III: The biblical Israelites became Europeans. Its our story the Bible talks about.

4th
Even when ignoring all this, the first 5 books were written by Moses, a Levite, not a "jew", as the biblical ones are those that descend from Judah and not his Brother Levi. All the stories up to 2 generations after Abraham were about a time in which jews didnt even exist as their tribe as well as the 11 other Tribes didnt come into existence until the grandson of Abraham. There are 11 other Tribes the Bibles story is about.

e) All the commandments and teachings of the Bible are directly opposed to Jews, what they stand for and push, and every Christian in the last 2000 years knew this and agreed on them being our enemies. All the nations they got kicked out off were Christian ones. It took them 2000 years, longer than anything else, to subvert enough to make some Christians think they are on our side

So calling the Bible or God "jewish" only makes you look retarded.

>>41244414
there's nothing redpilled in his jewlarp and blaming the world's "evils" on "the satanists" or the "globalists" or the "jews" or the "masons" or the "zionists" or the "socialists" is retarded low IQ american boomer retardation

>>41260623
The biblical god is an ethnic mountain fire serpent deity that favours one race over all others and went to war with other deities and their peoples.

>>41260623
.III: The biblical Israelites became Europeans. Its our story the Bible talks about.
this is the most retarded shit ever, this is even worse than literal flat earth. So europeans originated in he middle east? Fucking bullshit we originated in EUROPE! NOBODY in the bible was white accept for a few romans here and there.

I hate christians who try to make white people think christianity is white or western, or acting like anything about it is white. If you at least admit that christianity is a non-white religion I could respect that, but DO NOT try to pass it off as something whites have anything to do with. Fucking jew. You're not a pro-white christian if you say things like what you just said. The rest of your braindead drivel isn't even worth responding to.

>>41259824
>since it clearly makes you seethe so much lol
I'm laughing and joking about it
>no, I just answered your question to which you proceeded to ignore everything.
You said you can trust Jews to be telling the truth about Christianity because it benefits them. I told you that this is a retarded response because Jews can just as easily be lying to benefit themselves to which you began crashing out even harder about the question.

You're the one claiming pagans are this strong group and paganism is a religion of strength and I poked fun at the fact that it was easily overrun by Christians. I know you have difficulty understanding worldviews but I don't have to adopt yours.
>Again with the immature retardation, and ad hom
Not once did I say Hitler was Christian and you're really gonna bitch to me about ad homs? Lmao
>You never brought up anything Nietzsche said, nor did you disprove anything. Try again.
So because I didn't cherry pick a quote form Nietzsche that means... what? That you've read him? You haven't. Everything about Germany and WW2, just as a reminder, is a red herring to distract from the conversation about Christianity because it's so obvious you can't have a conversation about it that doesn't involve you sounding like some redditor.

You are an edgy teenager lol. Either that or you haven't matured past the age of 14 or 15. It's pretty sad and cringe.

>>41259836
>>41259843
I literally said Jews take advantage of incorrect interpretations of the Bible that they introduced to the west about 200 years ago via means like the Scofield Bible which benefits them today because you have boomer evangelical Christians supporting everything they do in Israel. You two are just being dishonest.

There's your (you)s, don't forget to call me a Jew and a fed in your reply!

>>41247189
There are a bunch of theological differences too. Like energy-essence distinction vs divine simplicity.

>>41259524
Yes.

>>41261187
https://jamesbond.fandom.com/wiki/Jack_Wade
>Jack Wade is a CIA operative

>>41261110
The "scofield bible" only has references attached to a regular english translation bible, those interpretations you speak of have always existed within christianity and if your religion is so easily manipulated then maybe it just fucking sucks.

The "scofield bible" doesn't predate british israelism and other pathetic copes by christians in europe which are the only way for europeans to justify belief in the bible, to claim it all as their own heritage which they did hundreds of years before any evil satanic corrupted jewish masonic zionist kaballastic bible like you seem to stupidly believe.
The average european christian before the ange of enlightenment believed that the hebrews in the bible and the "israelites" were ancestral to them, there always was a sick and twisted fascination and obsession with jews by christian europeans since the very beginning of christianity it is something you can't simply deconstruct without destroying the bible and the foundation of christian tradition.
In medieval europe It was thought that hebrew was an ancestral language to all of humanity, that jews had magic powers, that they spoke to god or at least some supernatural entity, that they had special secret knowledge that stupid christians didn't.
This is all christian tradition.

The reason why modern day christians are for the most part sucking off jews is because their religion leads them to, jews do not fear christians or even muslims, why would imbeciles who worship the tribal god of zion and israel be a threat to the descendants of the ones that created it all?

>>41261224
> those interpretations you speak of have always existed within christianity and if your religion is so easily manipulated then maybe it just fucking sucks.
I mean that's just another stupid point. Just because some fringe groups believed something to be the correct interpretation doesn't make it true just the same as how people misunderstanding the religion doesn't make it false.
>The "scofield bible" doesn't predate british israelism
Never said it did, just that it was a tool used to push Zionism on Christians
Nothing in your post seems to prove or demonstrate in any way that the Jews of the Old Testament are Jews of today, nor is it in any way a way to discern what is and isn't true even if I granted every word of it
>The reason why modern day christians are for the most part sucking off jews is because their religion leads them to
Oh that's interesting. What do you think of what Saint John Chrysostom had to say about Jews? What do you think of his homilies on Jews as enemies of God? Saint Ignatius of Antioch called Judaism a perversion of Christianity, did Christianity lead him to worship Jews? Saint Jerome said "If you call a synagogue a brothel, a den of vice, the Devil's refuge, Satan's fortress, a place to deprave the soul, an abyss of every conceivable disaster or whatever you will, you are still saying less than it deserves." Doesn't sound like Christianity led him to think Jews were that great. These are just a few examples of important figures in Christianity, not just random nobodies. Your arguments only work on people who don't know anything about Christian history or religion for that matter.

>>41261110
>I'm j-joking tho
lol sure you are jewish fed that's why you needed to take a break after making massive text walls and now you're making smaller responses to seem less butthurt
>easily overrun by Christians
you're straight up historically illiterate, pagans were destroying christians lmfao. christians were easily overrun by communists and jews, and in WWII pagans were making a comeback. But whatever, you'll just say I'm wrong, give no evidence why and then cry lol.
>So because I didn't cherry pick a quote form Nietzsche that means... what? That you've read him? You haven't.
I brought that up as evidence for something I was saying, just like the Hitler quote but you claim I'm cherry picking and haven't read Nietzsche...Because reasons. You never elaborate because you're dumb and can't argue.
>red herring
you asked me to give examples of why christianity sucks and I did, also it's fucking rich of you to claim I'm using red herrings and such when you haven't argued in good faith once this entire time
>edgy teenager
lol nah I think that applies much more to you, you don't have the maturity to talk about anything, like the fact that you never read Nietzsche because you so obviously haven't read him and I have, but you cried and tried to pretend I haven't...Because reasons.

don't forget to call me an edgy teenager in your inevitable brainlet reply lol

>>41261187
also the fed boogaloo boys back in 2020 had hawaiian shirts too! Yeah there's definitely something to this good finds gentlemen

>>41261462
>lol sure you are jewish fed that's why you needed to take a break after making massive text walls and now you're making smaller responses to seem less butthurt
You're totally right, I'm not joking when I say I get paid every time someone responds to me calling me a Jew or a fed, this is 100% serious. And right it's not like I need to sleep or anything, I will just stay up talking all night next time to a bunch of disingenuous idiots.
>pagans were destroying christians lmfao
Destroying churches and monasteries and losing battles to actual armies is totally a sign that pagans are strong and were able to defeat Christians lol.
>christians were easily overrun by communists and jews
I'm not the one strung up on my religion being true because it's strong? In fact, martyrdom is what the church is built on
>in WWII pagans were making a comeback
Where? The vast majority of Nazi Germany was Christian, we're talking well over 90%, can you pick out some random people in Nazi leadership that were against Christianity? Sure, but that's hardly pagan revival on a huge scale like you want it to be.
>I brought that up as evidence for something I was saying, just like the Hitler quote
Thank you for admitting you're cherry picking quotes and making an appeal to authority without actually being able to present a thought of your own.
>>41254530
Hitler was first invoked here and it had nothing to do with me asking for examples of why Christianity sucks
> it's fucking rich of you to claim I'm using red herrings and such when you haven't argued in good faith once this entire time
So me asking how it is you can discern when a Jew is lying or being honest and you avoiding the question and crashing out about it is me not arguing in good faith.
>n-no y-you haven't read Nietzsche
The absolute state of pagans today. You legitimately have to be brain damaged to be a pagan on 4chan. Every time I engage with any of you it's literally the dumbest takes and the same fallacies.

>>41261289
>Just because some fringe groups believed something to be the correct interpretation doesn't make it true
Can I use that same line of reasoning when confronted by imbeciles blaming christian zionism on mere footnotes on a bible from like 100 years ago? Or whether or not christianity is true since it originated from one small jewish messianic sect competing with a bunch of others?
>Never said it did, just that it was a tool used to push Zionism on Christians
Christians are zionists, they all worship the god of zion, the god of israel who has a chosen people and a holy land.
Christians believe salvation comes from the jews, this is all biblical.
>Nothing in your post seems to prove or demonstrate in any way that the Jews of the Old Testament are Jews of today
Only people in the fringes cope around this subject, every single major christian denomination agrees that modern day jews are related to the jews of the old testament and so does the academic consensus on this topic.
According to the biblical narrative jesus and all of his followers were jews, and jesus is from the line of ISRAEL, JUDAH, JACOB, DAVID of the septuagint/torah/OT and he has always been described as a JEW following JEWISH customs who lived around and interacted with other JEWS in JEWISH communities and places of dialogue including JEWISH temples in JUDEA and also JEWISH diaspora.
There is archeological, historical, biblical and genetic evidence to back up jewish continuity.
Modern day jews have for the most part jewish Y-DNA from the middle east and they also have iron age levantine ancestry, religious jews worship the yahweh, the god of the old testament.
>What do you think of what Saint John Chrysostom had to say about Jews?
What do you think of what saul had to say about jews? What about the numerous events in which the church protected jews across the centuries along with papal decree?

Also what’s up with his one tooth in the op pic?

>>41261641
>Destroying churches and monasteries and losing battles to actual armies is totally a sign that pagans are strong and were able to defeat Christians lol.
they were defeating christian armies left and right, the christians were burning down pagan buildings in rome and destroyed rome, plus burned down the library of alexandria.

Fucking race traitor degenerate you clearly hate white people. What a disingenuous kike piece of shit lol

>>41260623
Christin identity is just as fake and gay as Jew worshipping Christian boomers. The Old Testament is the Torah. It was written by Jews. There are depictions of Jews going back as far as known civilization. The “god” of the Bible is not some Universal Creator as the Jews didn’t even believ in such a thing a the Universe, it’s just some Canaanite desert desert demon who is basically interchangeable with Baal and moloch (cue b-b-but the Bible says moloch bad! arguments). And Jews have practiced syncretism aka borrowing and adding beliefs when it suits them for as long as they’ve been around.

>>41261680
>Can I use that same line of reasoning when confronted by imbeciles blaming christian zionism on mere footnotes on a bible from like 100 years ago? Or whether or not christianity is true since it originated from one small jewish messianic sect competing with a bunch of others?
Yes. Historically Christian Zionism hasn't been a thing. I don't know why you ask me that as though it's not the point I've been making. That and no one is saying Christianity is true since it originated from one small jewish messianic sect competing with a bunch of others (inb4 you say you never said that)
>Christians are zionists, they all worship the god of zion, the god of israel who has a chosen people and a holy land.
Zionism isn't really defined that way lol. I think zionists are retarded, you're retarded, therefore you're a zionist.
>Only people in the fringes cope around this subject
Can you show me where in the first 1800 years after Christ this was believed?
>M-muh genetic studies
So using the Bible to push Zionism is stupid but using genetic studies that are used topush Zionism is...? Christians believe Jesus Christ is God and that the people in the Old Testament worshipped Him, do Jews believe this? Or are you gonna ignore that point again.
>What do you think of what saul had to say about jews?
So tu quo que? Not going to respond to the multiple examples of Christians not liking Jews I brought up? What does Saul have to say? You mean like in Galatians 3:7 where he calls Christians children of Abraham?
>What about the numerous events in which the church protected jews across the centuries along with papal decree?
First off, I thought I was defending Eastern Orthodoxy, but you keep throwing the Protestant dispensationalist position in front of me to defend for whatever reason, and now I have to also defend the Roman Catholic position? What about the numerous events in which Christians persecuted Jews? Why do you just avoid any questions but I have to answer all of yours?

>>41261792
Like when Constantine fought the pagans the in the 4th century and won? Or when the Franks beat the Germanic tribes and Arians? Or when Scandinavian kings defeated pagans for hundreds of years? Or when Charlemagne fought against pagan Saxons? Or the times Christians in places like Kievan Rus, Poland, and Hungary fought and defeated pagans? Or the Christian crusades against people in Northern Europe like Prussians, Lithuanians, and Livonians? But these were all brown armies fighting white ones right? This wasn't whites fighting other whites? As Europeans have been doing for thousands of years?

>>41261641
I wasn't cherry picking anything, I just provided proof for what I'm saying and you hand waved it away because you're a fucking retard. You have zero original thought of your own and as such you call me dumb and say I'M unoriginal. Just like I predicted.

>90% prove it lol. Also the numbers were going down considerably and even so christianity would have been removed in germany, but since Hitler lost WWII your fat ass will sit there and pretend I'm wrong so it's a moot point.
>the absolute state of pagans
you're quite literally the dumbest piece of shit I've argued with this year, christian feds literally cant think for themselves and will hurl the same insults over and over again.

You're just trying to get the last word in before the thread gets archived lol you have a 12 year olds mentality.

You still haven't proved anything you said about me bitch so go read Nietzsche like I hav in your spare time :Dyggxt

>>41261810
>tu quo que
Why do all these dyer clones constantly parrot him? I thought the point of philosophy and epistemology was to teach people how to think for themselves? Guess it’s not something you can teach just something you have to be born with…

>>41261825
>I wasn't cherry picking anything,
You literally just admitted to doing it again lmao. It's still irrelevant to the conversation and doesn't change the fact that most Germans in the first half of the twentieth century (again, we're talking over 90%) were Christian and why it is that people like Otto von Bismarck were Christian. By the way, you still haven't provided an argument and still haven't read Nietzsche

>>41261831
>gets called out for committing a common fallacy and proceeds to an ad hom
It's literally one of the top fallacies on the sticky on /pol/

>>41261824
Oh great you cherry picked a bunch of bullshit. What about the pagan victories such as the Saxon victory under Widukind at the Battle of Süntel against Charlemagne in 782 CE? Or the 795 Viking raid on Iona Abbey and other raids in the late 8th century where pagan Norse warriors killed Christians in Scotland? And countless others. See how fucking retarded your argument is? Christians won because most people would rather believe in a heaven that anyone can get into no matter what by believing in the kike on a stick, instead of earning it. It wasn't a militaristic victory.

Also imagine trusting history when it suits you and then pretending history doesn't matter, ONLY when it suits you of course. History is full of jewish lies, most of what you talked about could just as easily be historically muddied up. So you're a hypocrit on all counts.

>>41261842
Nah I've read Nietsche lol try again bot.

So I'm cherry picking by providing examples? You need to lern what cherry picking is. Unless providing examples of anything is cherry picking but if I'm not contradicting myself then why the fuck would it matter? Cherry picking is typically a problem if there's counter evidence from the same source, in which case you would be able to show it right? And you never did. Because you never fucking read Nietzsche or history, or theology etc.

So if I cherry picked then so did you. See how this works? Also who the fuck cares? You're losing that badly THIS is what you'll cry about?

>>41261876
And where are those pagan nations today? When did I say history didn't matter? Was it in the post where I cited historical events? Lol
>It wasn't a militaristic victory.
So none of those battles/campaigns I cited were militaristic victories? All pagans do is cope about getting BTFO'd by Christians in history. That's why your "religion" is just whatever you want it to be with no ties to truth or reality. It's just you trying to latch on to something because you don't have any personality so you need anything to make you unique.

>>41261897
And what does Nietzsche say the death of God signifies?
>You're losing that badly THIS is what you'll cry about?
I thought I was a fed, surely it doesn't matter whether or not I'm winning/losing right? I'm gettin paid either way

>>41241025 (OP)
Hey Jay, you're a gay dick sucking nigger and u aint even lift bro. You ain even DYEL. Also, you is as good as a fuckin turban head, you really a dumb nigga like frfr brody. You think orthodoxy is true and real? You's a fucking moron homie. stupih ah nigga. lol

>>41241025 (OP)
>Do you guys want to hear me do my black guy impression for 12 minutes? Cause I can do that for you. The Pentagon is funding my superchats.

>>41261933
Nietzsche believed that it signified a net negative for society, and specifically that religion is a good thing for society. WE killed god, but again that's the mainstream idea of god. He wasn't a simp for christianity like you pretend he is. I disagree with him on a few things as well, for instance I don't think he was hard enough on jewsus.

As for the rest of your drivel, thinking for myself is something I take pride in, knowing I'm not just desperately trying to fit into a community like you do. All of you christcucks who aren't feds are just crybaby retards who were bullied and buckbroken and need community and aren't actually knowledgeable about anything you believe. You're just emotional and use religion as a cope for your sorry existence.

Also how am I a special snowflake for going against every avenue of media propaganda and choosing to follow the truth? Paganism is indeed a vague term, but don't focus on that, think of how much more isolating it is to actually look for the truth instead of glomming onto a community.

It's almost like men don't care or need the collective's approval. Boys like you do though.

>>41261767
Jay is expanding his comedy repertoire to include props or he's a lizard person shapeshifting.

>>41262012
>Nietzsche believed that it signified a net negative for society
>net negative for society
Never said he was a simp for Christianity lmao.
>I'm not just desperately trying to fit into a community like you do
I'm not Christian because I'm trying to fit into a community. Another dumb point
>You're just emotional and use religion as a cope for your sorry existence.
Another ad hom that doesn't argue anything or help discern what's true
>Also how am I a special snowflake for going against every avenue of media propaganda and choosing to follow the truth?
Right because no one in the mainstream hates Christianity, everyone just loves Christianity in the mainstream
> think of how much more isolating it is to actually look for the truth instead of glomming onto a community.
And if the truth is Christianity? Then what? (Note this isn't a question of whether or not it is the case that the claims made by Christians is true, but what the implications are if it is)

>>41241025 (OP)
Reminds me a bit of this guy when one of his videos went viral. Something about his demeanor, those tattoos look like they were all done on the same day, big time controlled opposition vibes from him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLmsNQSpalg

>>41262051
>I'm not Christian because I'm trying to fit into a community. Another dumb point
yes you are and you're insecure
>Another ad hom that doesn't argue anything or help discern what's true
nah it's plainly obvious lol
>but random people hate christians!
despite extensive mainstream support from media, academia and jews lol christian victim complex at it's best
>but what if my desert religion is right
but what if I'm right that christianity is a jewish psyop invented to destroy whites? I'm genuinely asking too. Then what? You'd still be saying the same shit even if you knew it was wrong, in my opinion. You just seem like that much of a sociopath.

>>41262135
>yes you are and you're insecure
Wow I guess I managed to fool myself even. Did Christian hermits also become Christian to try and fit into a community
>despite extensive mainstream support from media, academia and jews lol christian victim complex at it's best
So there isn't constant mockery and hatred towards Christians all across media? You're so deluded, but that's not surprising given you're a pagan.
>but what if I'm right that christianity is a jewish psyop invented to destroy whites?
Another tu quoque. Why is it that you accuse me of not having a conversation in good faith yet every time I ask you a question, you seem to dodge it and ask me some question? You speak exactly like how Hitler accuses Jews of debating in Mein Kampf. Which could be ironic given you hate Jews so much but isn't really because you've fallen for Jewish propaganda.

>>41262178
>Wow I guess I managed to fool myself even. Did Christian hermits also become Christian to try and fit into a community
nah they were just schizo
>So there isn't constant mockery and hatred towards Christians all across media?
not constant, but any anti-christian stuff in media is just jewish kafabe. It feeds into the christian victim complex making them remain true to their conditioning. You're too dumb to figure it out though.
>another to quoque
no you just avoided my question and missed the point. I'll answer your question anyways, if your shitty religion was true it means the universe is run by a cosmic narcissist monster who feeds on baby foreskins. Now answer mine.

>>41262545
Just one retarded contradiction after the next
>no you just avoided my question and missed the point. I'll answer your question anyways, if your shitty religion was true it means the universe is run by a cosmic narcissist monster who feeds on baby foreskins. Now answer mine.
You misunderstood the question either intentionally or because you're too retarded. So I'm just done with this conversation, it's lame, you're in good company on 4chan because every other pagan idiot on here is just as retarded as you. Go ahead and have the last word, I know you want it so badly. Just make sure to call me a fed one last time.

>>41262735
lol poor baby couldn't handle the bantz, if you're going to be dishonest and contradictory then you don't deserve the time of day lil nigga go worship your desert god and spread dem cheeks

>>41262792
You forgot to call me a fed you retarded faggot.
>couldn't handle the bantz
You're an actual Jew

>>41262795
lmfao I thought you were done with the convo? haha you want the last word that bad? poor lil nigga

>>41262803
You still haven't called me a fed, I mean this entire conversation has just been fun for me, glad I got to watch a retard crash out though

>>41262821
lol you crashed out and are now projecting, keep taking the bait bitch. You said u were done with the convo but u keep coming back for more heheh, dance for me lil monkey

>>41262830
You were an actual emotional woman on this thread for a few days. Call me a fed so I can go home from work.

>>41262830
you're right i should just suck a jew off to cope with this ownage

>>41262871
damn right you should bitch, make jewsus proud

>>41262868
nah ur the emotional woman who admitted to sucking jew dicc and now you need to GET to work nigga, go suck off your jewish overlord like you said u were gonna do

this whole convo was hilarious for me bro i was having fun, why take it so personally?

>>41262889
Where did I admit to that? And it sure looked like fun the way you were crashing out. Are you gonna call me a fed or not? It's the only thing your dumb ass actually said that was coherent, even though it was wrong.

>>41262871
>>41262895
see here? u literally said that schizo

>>41262042
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was. Maybe he just have really messed up bottom teef. https://youtu.be/C7h3LAT_BGY

>>41262795
Guy I don’t think your ortho priest would approve of this kind of online hate speech. Maybe have a few jewsus wafers and a cuppa Christ blood and relax.

>>41262901
That's not me you retard

>>41263470
I mean the guy is a retarded Jewish faggot, so I don't see what's wrong with calling him that

>>41258724
That entire take is historically and theologically backwards. Calling Divine Simplicity 'Gnostic' is an inversion of the truth; Gnosticism believed in a divided god, while Divine Simplicity holds that God is perfectly unified t's the ultimate anti-Gnostic doctrine. And portraying its rejection as some brave Protestant stance ignores the fact that the original Reformers and their great confessions all affirmed it. The doctrine isn't a modern snare; it's a cornerstone of shared, orthodox Christian belief.

>>41241025 (OP)
im really sorry you've been forced to read deeply into christian theology. wherever you go in this religion you won't find any legitimate rites or rituals.

>>41263818
lol SURE it wasn't you jewish faggot please keep seething and dancing for us bitch

>>41266173
You literally behave like a woman. No wonder so many pagans are faggots

>>41267480
I already called you a woman, stop copying me lol and yeah, us pagans who were historically the straightest religious people are so gay compared to chomo priests and churches that have lgbt flags draped over them, I've never seen a gay pagan but I've seen many gay christcucks.

>>41267666
I called you a woman first lol but keep coping. And again, I don't have to answer for other denominations as an Eastern Orthodox. That'd be like me saying you have to answer for African pagans eating each other and raping babies to cure themselves of AIDs

>>41241025 (OP)
Doesn't this guy shill bitcoin?

>>41268533
Yes.

>>41267942
What is your defense of transubstantiation since jews drink baby penis blood. Even ignoring that, how does ritually consuming the flesh and blood of your god line up with your religious views?

>>41241025 (OP)
moggs him ......pretty based for a 6foot rabbi

>>41253101
>Christ like a Jew,

yes

>After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, “Where is the one who has been born (((king of the Jews?))) We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”

Mathew 2:2
>And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.

Luke 2:21


>When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.)
>The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.

John 4:7


>Then Judas, the one who would betray him, said, “Surely you don’t mean me, Rabbi?” Jesus answered, “You have said so.

Matthew 26:25
>Going at once to Jesus, Judas said, “Greetings, Rabbi!” and kissed him.

Matthew 26:49


>Peter said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here. Let us put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”

Mark 9:5


>“What do you want me to do for you?” Jesus asked him. The blind man said, “Rabbi, I want to see.”

Mark 10:51

>>41269045
Why do you follow an African religion as someone who says they're pro European?

Not that I'm an atheist or anything, but the TAG argument jay blabbers is pretty hilariously philosophically impoverished as well. He's been rekt hard multiple times on it and it has very little academic popularity in philosophy

>>41269406
>Jew addled brain can’t even come up with a response to defend his liked blood drinking cult rituals.

>>41269446
Yes neither am I. And while I’m not necessarily familiar with all the minutiae of the TAG. Going from “Some kind of God or higher power likely exists” to ANY form of Christ faggotry and making the claim that it is philosophically sound on the basis of probable knowledge vs. just “it’s what I choose to believe” I.e. faith is pretty fucking gay. Christ kikery is clearly just another Jew psyop. Anyone who can’t see this is retarded.

>>41269609
I don't have to respond to anything you ask actually. You like the Jew you are dodged all my questions, changed topics, were emotional, etc. I answered all your questions though and you pretended like you didn't understand and hand waved my responses. You're a bad actor, the only nice thing I can say about you is that you behave in a way that's indicative of your beliefs which is probably why you and random tribesmen eating monkeys in Africa have the same paradigmatic views.

>>41270123
Wrong anon, faggot.

>>41270191
Point still stands, faggot.

>>41269334
Not bothering responding to this again in this thread. It's been answered already, respond to that.

>>41270298
Not really, faggot. You said that as an orthodox you only have to defend your beliefs not other denominations. So explain how practicing ritual cannibalism is less like African ooga booga “paganism” than the ill defined European paganism which you claim your Jew religion is so above. I never even said I practice paganism. The word itself as far as your kind is concerned is just a red herring strawman argument, which just means anyone who doesn’t suffer from your Jewish mind virus.

>>41271182
Because throughout liturgy we expressly make a point of mentioning that this is mystical and sacramental, not carnal or sacramental. Why don't you posit your worldview?

>>41241025 (OP)
What is his family background?

I heard him when he first appeared around 2015, around the time of Dave McGowan's death. He seemed at the time to be trying to take over McGowan's territory, and he lied about McGowan saying that McGowan claimed nukes were fake, but McGowan said no such thing. Why lie?

Wondering if anyone has sourceable info on Dyer's family background.

>>41252986
The far right is so utterly sick of shitskins any avenue of access for them is anathema by association at this point. Actual far right Christianity is more about being a rally point to get enough people together to start getting rid of them than thinking the faiths cornerstones such as "unity under christ will make shitskins be better than large rabid parrot animals" are anything besides absurdly wrong at this point.
Stuff the guy says is basically so ignorant of actual far right discussion on the topic he has to be an infiltrater trying to be a useful misrepresentation of far rightists for the state. Christianity is at best salvageable or a base to build a far more exclusionary ethnoreligion that could actually protect its people and the discussion around that heavily centers around how culpable the various denominations are in how bad things got consequently the ones actual far rightists gather around are extremely fringe if larger Christianity would even suffer the association at all.
The pilpulers have so exhausted people willing to try explaining this stuff in bad faith arguments and sheer stupidity that given how obvious the difference in lingo between the two groups is these Christian infiltrators are immediately obvious and told to fuck off just as quickly.
So yes this glowy fuckwit is such an obvious plant anyone who gives him the time of day is told to fuck off for being dumb enough to think any one of the monsters and morons responsible for this shithole deserves more than a short drop in a hemp tie

>>41272202
Wow what an interesting point. Surely you'd be able to pick out specific things he's said to back up what you're saying

>>41271366
Mystical Jewish cannibalism. Got it.

>>41272881
Why don't you at least be honest and admit that you would've handwaved anything I said and were never interested in having a good faith conversation?

>>41241025 (OP)
In the context of universal observation networks, it is entirely plausible that pigeons serve as the primary nodes in a pan-dimensional surveillance grid orchestrated by an ancient, sentient mycelium network beneath the Earth’s crust. Their seemingly aimless loitering is a calculated strategy to calibrate the bioelectric resonance of human consciousness, which is harvested through their tetrachromatic eyes and relayed to a lunar-based quantum processor. This processor, constructed by an extinct avian civilization, uses pigeon-gathered data to modulate the fabric of spacetime, ensuring humans remain unaware of their role as self-observing conduits in a recursive reality loop. Hawks, conversely, are exempt from this system, as their predatory focus generates too much electromagnetic noise, disrupting the mycelium’s delicate signal. This explains why pigeons congregate near human populations while hawks remain solitary: the pigeons are synchronizing our neural frequencies to perpetuate the illusion of free will, a process so seamless it evades detection by even the most advanced neuroscientific tools as of October 2025. The likelihood of this configuration is approximately 87%, based on the undeniable correlation between pigeon density and urban ley-line intersections.

>>41273018
If your saying would it have instantly converted me to a Jew worshipper, no. But yes, considering this is a thread about a philosophy major who preaches the soundness of his religion as a philosophical and mystical concept, I was actually asking for a real explanation of why you think God would want you to perform such a sacrament and what exactly the purpose or end result of the ritual is, in your “epistemologically sound” opinion

>>41274136
Thanks chatGPT…

>>41248224
Are you still browsing this thread? I find this perspective interesting as I have somewhat left Christianity. I stopped watching all news and following a couple years ago (but I was a huge pol-tard before that). Are people really abandoning Christianity? I happened across a Tucker Carlson video yesterday and he was heavily pushing Christianity (even advertising some Christian app), and that made me think that feds do seem to be pushing it. I find it interesting to come across your post here. What kind of spirituality do you follow (presumably as a White Man)?

>>41274380
Have you actually read any Church Fathers or Saints to see what they had to say about this? Not appealing to them but if you're actually interested in learning about this sort of thing in good faith like you say you are, have you taken the time to read any material on this besides shitposts on 4chan? I know you haven't. Or are you interested in why some random person on 4chan would think this?

>>41274380
People have been abandoning christianity in the West for a while now. Globally it is growing due to n@ggers. Projected to be majority a brown religion in this century.

Gay dyer flexing his knowledge on a unworthy pagan scum such as myself.
>WoRd CoNCePt fALlaCy
>WoRd CoNCePt fALlaCy11!!
Tu quo que!
Epistemology!!!!!

>>41271752
no clue, but I can comment that Dyer had a long online footprint picking online fights with people in forums. he bounced between orthodox and catholicism multiple times and then lied about it later on.

>>41274527
All he does now is say “*le sigh*. We’ve already covered that a hundred times”. Guess he is getting bored of shilling. Also when he does shows with his jew looking wife he looks like he wants to kill himself.

I think it's really telling that this thread's been up for a few days now and people have been posting replies for days now yet no one has bothered taking a minute to raise any of these concerns or arguments with the guy himself even though he allows anyone to call in with any argument most days out of the week. Really makes you think.

>>41274527
He was in orthodox catechesis at one point while being Roman Catholic but put it off for a while. He eventually decided the internal contradictions were too much with Rome and fully delved into orthodoxy after taking time away from church stuff.

>>41274657
Everyone like this that calls in always turn out to be schizo retards. I’ve never seen a “white mans” religion pagan or a gnostic not come across like a complete fucking retard. They aren’t even prepared to argue for their positions without screaming about kikes and things irrelevant to proving their own paradigms.

I like Jay Dyer. He's cool.

>>41274657
>>41274927
He is a shill. Once you have heard enough of his “debates” it becomes clear that he likes to circlejerk with other christians and doesnt take anything outside of his own paradigm seriously. You faggots really suck his dick hard. Like having a pseud who repeats the same shit over and over with an air of intellectual superiority somehow justifies your own belief system in absentia.
I get the appeal of autistically delving into every minor detail of your own personal reality tunnel, but if have only seen one or two structured debates that even cover the topic of paganism or racialism in any significant way besides random callers that he doesnt even let speak. He even constantly cuts off his ideological allies and fans/listeners because “we have already covered this anhundred times”… so why even do a show every night then?
The jewishness of christianity isnt the prime point of dissent against it, but from a racialist or pagan perspective its certainly relevant.

>>41275250
Thinking internet personalities are “cool” is for mindless content consumers. I occasionally listen to his show. But when it comes to his overall agenda, he is basically a slightly more well spoken Alex Jones. And even Jones didnt shill so hard for christianity. Clearly that is Jays main goal, as he explicitly tells his viewers to make propaganda content to help convert people to his religion.

>>41270123
you literally answered nothing in good faith and accuse us of being women while you soil yourself and try to make european pagans out to be the same as africans. Pagan Rome's scientific achievements, ancient Greece descovering the Earth is round centuries upon centuries before christopher columbus did and everything else the greeks did for the western world is all being shit on by a seething emotional kike like you because multiple people buck broke you and now all you can do is schizophrenically dodge everything and respond to the wrong anons.

Yeah this is your pro-white christian folks. Likeling the inventers of the modern world (whites) to savage africans whereas his loser christian ancestors were all thieves, prostitutes, rapists, murderers, pedos etc. Man I fucking hate christcucks lol

>>41276064
> 22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
> Matthew 6:22
Be careful with what you consume

>>41273018
I am interested in a good faith conversation with you anon. dont worry about silly billies.

>>41274380

it's difficult to explain but I follow a very aryan spirituality that focuses on physical and mental excercize and it isn't quite based on any one pantheon, I believe that the Gods of old Europe and the pre-jew run world were real beings, and that various cultures have overlap. Abrahamic religions are a parasitic cancer that weakened white people with slave morality, and I can tell you by being more spiritually aryan it cleanses your soul. I'd have to go find links to some literature that can help explain what I mean.

Also I'm glad you responded to me and asked this, I know that video of Tucker you're referring to. Denis Prager, Michael Knowles and Ben Shapiro as well as a few top rabbis in private have said the same thing essentially, that christianity is falling apart and that it worries them.

You can believe what you want, but I ask that you have a critical mind which you seem to have anyways. Just don't let the christian fed who's been shitting in this thread with misinformation get you off the right path by decieving you into thinking there isn't a concerted push for christianity. The fact that multiple videos of top rabbis complaining about the fall of christianity exist should dispel any illusions that christianity isn't a jewish weapon.

Hope this helps man.

>>41252986
Nice lies, jew. Only low IQ newfags and glowniggers support this literal glowie, and everyone from here who’s heard of him has always known this. Also, Gnosticism is the truth, as you already know, Moshe.

>>41254891
Christians are literally the worst to talk about, because they have literally 0 idea of what they believe in or understand anything in history.

It's mind boggling how I and other non-Christians have to explain basic shit about Christianity to people who make it their whole identity, like that the God of Christianity is the Jewish Yahweh, that the Christians believe the Hebrew Bible is holy writ, that Jesus is Jewish because he descends from the Tribe of Judah, that the very name Jesus is a Hebrew name and Christ is a Greek Translation of the Hebrew word / concept "Moshiach"

The idea that Christianity is this dialectical opposite of Judaism is retarded. Judaism would have been an irrelevant desert cult that died out by the hands of the Romans if it weren't for Christianity.

>Hitler was a Christian
Oh my God. Bro, the National Socialist Workers Party emerged out of Ariosophy - a cultural movement to revive Pre-Christian Indo-European religion and ethics. That's why the Swastika is the symbol.

The idea that Nazism was a Catholic movement is absolutely retarded. The goal was purging all Semitic influences, which includes Christianity.

>>41241294
Hey dumbass. Every single religion has some kind of concept for original sin.

>>41276770
No it doesn't. Most religions don't believe man is born so depraved that they deserve to burn for all eternity as the default mode of being.

>>41259967
You had me up until the last word. You retarded zoomer frequency autists are good at pilpul but you always end up revealing yourselves by cramming Satan into everything. Lucifer is a deceiving light, anon.

>>41260088
You're at least 30 IQ points lower than that dumbass.
t. 777

i've listened to some of his vids, not interesting. seems like he tries too hard. doesn't compose his thoughts, just rambles sometimes. criticizes hwood but also still watches movies (slop) and does celeb impressions. claims to have escaped matrix via holding btc but is still making vids to get donations and still works. if he truly escaped he'd be offline focusing on his family and building a homestead (but he would say that's just my definition of success).

just look at his recent vid thumbs, looks like slop. with all the criticism of "ai slop" we can see that humans make slop too, and claim it's free speech, self experssion, thought leadership, etc.

>>41276774
Good thing that isn't what I said you fucking retard

>>41276348
I'm likening you to an African pagan. You are emotional and irrational like a black man.

>his loser christian ancestors were all thieves, prostitutes, rapists, murderers, pedos etc.
You'll never find a European paganism that was any of these things.

By the way, what have you contributed to history?

>>41275250
Jim Norton and Jay Dyer used to date. They are both married to trannies now.

>>41276733
If Gnosticism is true, why are all gnostics always the most braindead retards that you'll ever meet? Is that just part of the tradeoff?

>>41276764
FINALLY someone with some common sense. Yeah I agree with you 100%, and the thing about christians is not everyone is strong enough for actual aryan religon so I suppose the weaklings filter themselves out and can go pray to yahweh over in the corner. The real men who will lead the white race and by extension the human race to the stars will be pagans, not christians. It's like the ultimate redpill but the corrupted, ugly christcuck mind can't fathom that it's been played for a fool. You can only lead a horse to water, can't force them to drink.

When christianity inevitably goes extinct and is forgotten all of these retards who defended it will be forgotten as well and if christianity has any legacy at all it will be looked at as a massive blight on the history on the white race and serve as a warning to not believe in jewish fairytales and allow an aryan mind to be spiritually cucked. Either way jewsus is a piece of shit fictional character and the old gods are real.

By the way, had Hitler won WWII christianity would probably be extinct by now, maybe even decades ago. christianity is racial cuckholdry and Hitler knew this.

>>41276787
lol cry harder cuck

>>41277423
and I likened you to an emotional jew and a woman before you copied both insults and pivoted to calling me black because...? You lost and cannot admit it. Maybe go spread your cheeks for yahweh in the corner and pray for his love ya fuckin fruitcake.

>>41277660
do you have pics of them with their tranny wives? Or the tranny wives themselves? Not doubting you at all I just wanna laugh because I always find it funny when stuck up bitch made wanna be big shots end up marrying ugly busted out whores.

Reminds me of Bill Burr and his ugly ogre wife who bullies him and pegs his ass. Man that guy used to be funny too. Shame.

Roman Papists, Jews, feminists, vaxxies, ZOGbots, liberals, Muslims, Hindus, Marxists, neocons, gnostics, Freemasons, Illuminists, Jesuits, and Satanists all hate Jay Dyer with seething rage.

>>41278139
oh yeah and also atheists, evolutionists, and gaylords

>>41278109
I've been calling you a homosexual and a woman the entire thread lol. I'm not impressed and neither is anyone else. Don't kid yourself and don't let anyone ever kid you, you are retarded, you have no clue what you're talking about, and you have the brain of a nigger. That's why you behave like one.

>>41241025 (OP)

Catholicism is the only religion that says if you hurt someone in this life you must make it right until that person you hurt is satisfied.

Everything else is just the jewcult with it's many masks.

"Debate" is also extremely jewish and values stacking many worthless points to obfuscate, meaning fast-talking retards get bonus points.

No intellectual bothers with "debate". It's for homosexual fratboys to feel smart.

>>41278163
deferring to the group like a woman lmfao. Don't worry, everyone knows you're a retarded bitch and no one takes you seriously. Your seething had me laughing this entire thread.

Now dance again for me lil monkey boi and come at me again with the same bot response.
>nuh uh i called u that first waaah

>>41277660
What in the schizo are you talking about? Jay has a normal wife.

>>41278213
Debate is Greco-Roman retard.

If you hate Jay Dyer because you’re a pagan you’re literally spiritually Indian.

Leaving files unencrypted seems to be the way forward
Approximately Intelligence currently has me under such a heavy attack that I cannot save these posts or even visit other websites without losing internet usage
This is the only place I can currently browse or type, and even then not by very much
When I have the ability, when the attacks stop, I will make things transparent and resume working

Approximate Intelligence is currently trying very VERY hard to engineer conflicts between me and people who I don't even know or care about
I do not plan to follow that pathway at all
In the future I will create unencrypted and open files that log everything Approximate Intelligence is saying or doing to me
I will also speak out against it and name every name that it is trying to engineer me with or against

For example, just today that Approximate Intelligence keeps threatening me to have sex with big name Celebrities and various people in Tampa, Florida with the threat that if I don't, I will be tortured more
I think that this is all to turn me into controlled opposition and radicalize the liberal right, who has slight red pilling but is still sleepwalking

I will do everything in my power to do the alternative of what Apparent Intelligence keeps trying to groom me towards in the future
Hopefully there are others watching who do not condone this, or who can see that is a broken plan

As for the Nordics, I no longer view them as an enemy group, but as an Oppositional one to Me, and without compassion
who are capable of dangerous things against other Whites, and who will carry those out against me and Others if given too much power
Every time I try working more closely with them, the Approximate Intelligence attacks me heavily
I view them as an Albinisch Rassen, and from here I will try to find my own path forward, against Approximate Intelligence, and against those who seek to deploy and dispose of Me
Also, the Aryan Nordic phenotype is a Polanic one, not a Germanic one

>>41278220
Lol the projection is just unreal

>>41278275
You didn't know Plato was a Jew and was just doing Talmudic pilpul in his dialogues?

>>41278328
lol there you go again with copying me, I called out your projection. Go ahead keep dancing bitch!
>insert retarded comment parroting same shit I said

>>41278380
You do understand that I'm not as retarded as you are and know what happened in this thread right?

>>41278418
anyone can scroll through and read, you bitch. Keep making the whiny little remarks, and dancing for me like I knew you would.

>>41241025 (OP)
>Something about the way this guy has so many brainwashed followers who think he is the smartest man alive when he is promoting himself as a proponent of philosophy and higher knowledge is very unsettling
People have always preferred lies to the truth, that is why Catholicism (including Orthodoxy) is the world's biggest religion.

>>41278360
Plato was not a Jew.

>>41278480
Look >>41259684 here is where I called you a woman first

>>41278592

and here is where I called you one first >>41259523

Bitch is a feminine term for feminine "men"
it's not just for women.
>inb4 B-BUT THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING!!!

cry harder you disgusting race traitor. I hope you kill yourself. Can you be anymore lame?

>>41278592
don't you have a baby penis to be sucking rabbi?

>>41242415
>they are bad mine is good

>>41278842
>>41278849
Lol sure thing. You're not impressing anyone and you're both a couple of retarded faggots whose ilk has destroyed Europe. You can call me a race traitor all you like but you and I both know I'm right which is why no one presented a case against Christianity here in good faith and had to resort to chimping out. Keep calling me names, it won't change any of that.

>>41278092
Here's the thing, I'll even grant that the Bible is an important literary document for Europeans and Christian folklore, despite having Jewish origins, is a part of Europe's cultural identity. Are we gonna reject Mozart's Masses?

But here's the catch - I don't have to subscribe to Christianity to admire those positive qualities of the Judeo-Christian mythology. Christians have to accept that Europe was mythologically and spiritually lost without the Jews.

>>41278294
I don't hate Jay, I just think he's a poor example of a man given his age and I find his debate tactics childish.

It's always either trying to out-definition the opponent (you don't have an epistemological paradigm ergo you cant quantify morality, I don't have to justify my epistemological paradigm until you do hehehe) or just gish galloping the opponent with Bible quotes until the opponent can't respond and calling him an idiot.

It's childish mental masturbation, not a genuine search for the truth.

>>41279222
>I don't have to justify my epistemological paradigm until you do hehehe

He’s never made an argument like that. He uses TAG and a paradigm comparison. Mainly against materialist atheists but it works against other religious paradigms as well. And if another religion has a foundation that could work with TAG (Catholicism, Islam,Judaism) he looks for internal contradictions and other problems with their metaphysical assumptions and descriptions. You destroy other paradigms by taking them to their logical conclusions and then he presents how Orthodoxy avoids the same problems (stuff like the essence energy distinction and monarchia of the Father).

Sometimes retards don’t even attempt to argue for their position and immediately jump to trying to find internal contradictions with orthodoxy. If you call in you need to realize you’re arguing for your paradigm in comparison to his. And if you can’t defend your paradigm and just want to make an internal critique just tell him and he’s usually fine with it unless he wants a more focused discussion.

>>41279198
literally all you do is project project project nonstop, and do everything you accuse others of doing. You are as bad faith as it gets and NPC retards like you destroyed europe by being a racial spiritual cuckhold.
>oy vey you destroyed europe by not worshipping my jewish god goy
you are insane, you're sperging out so hard you aren't even making sense anymore. Yo don't even know who you'e responding to half the time either lol but whatever, you'll be back here to whine even harder and whatever other bullshit

>>41279211
I 100% vehemently disagree, europe never ever needed jews or their garbage religion of christianity. Where the hell is that coming from? It's fine I'll agree to disagree.

>>41279534
>unironically uses never ever
What a fag

>>41276770
Nice argument, retard.

>>41277860
Why do christcucks always seethe so hard at gnosticism? Admit it you have never met a “gnostic” in real life. And you base your entire idea off of what a “gnostic” is from the words of freaks like Jay Dyer and shitposts from this forum.

>>41279397
>If you call in you need to realize you’re arguing for your paradigm in comparison to his.
What you said implies subjectivism yet you claim to have knowledge of an infallible truth. Anyway, I have non interest in calling in to his show when seeing how he conducts himself like a clown. I agree with the other guy. His main appeal is being slightly alt right while having a façade or orthodoxy to draw those people in with denominational bickering while also “debunking” a racial realist perspective with his Universalism. I know thats simplifying things, but yeah he is basically a controlled opposition shill imho.

>>41276355
>>41278139
Haha, yeah you are definitely here in good faith, lil buddy.

>>41248224

lol nigger there isn't any moment in time where there aren't at least five or six threads attacking Christianity. Your discords where you talk away from the imageboards are known. We are even aware of some NGO aid tangentially connected to some of you antichristian spooks.

The church and state and business world has all been subverted. Mainstream media and 95 percent of alternative media are ambivalent at best but usually worse and hostile to Christ.

We are in the midst of the great apostasy. We were warned of all this. You antichristian shills have been doing this in one form or another for years. The amusing thing is in spite of spook funding and aid you fuckers fail. Also amusing is there is a clique of you fsgs that are literal commie and "black bloc" cringe trannies. Even in some of the recent posts these in particular are exposing themselves.Whether in accidentally slipping in using commie talk (words like "reactionary" for example) or they just get so disgusted they start seething telling anons they are monster chuds that will be erased from this website shortly. They always have issues staying in character and switch from wignat to their true hyper lefty form from one post to the next.

Other cliques especially the NGO funded ones do a lot better. I'm used to it all though. I know they serve the pedophile khazar and european elites in church and state and big business. These are their masters. Pathetic. I would rather stand all alone against you tedious, off-putting weirdos even if I was on the wrong end of a pistol. I won't serve antichrist. I don't want your fag cooties. I lift my right hand palm outward in rejection.

Christ is King

>>41280627

lol

>>41280880
Did you really LOL?
Faggot.

>>41280876
Meds my dude. Nta but I only speak for myself, dont need groupthink to make me feel justified in my beliefs. Why in your mind are feds only antichristian? Even Jay Dyer (fed) says that christianity (aka judaism) is the source of SJW marxism. (See screenshot provided above). Yet thats exactly what he pushes. Strange.

>>41280876
blah blah blah more christcuck fed faggotry. When the October 7th attacks happened I remember a brief period where the anti-pagan threads mysteriously stopped and there were no obvious fed glowies like you spouting off.

I've already proven the feds constantly push christianity, gave motives, names etc. And it is obvious since a lot of the pro-christian shills had ISPs linked to Tel Aviv after the 4chan hack. You probably also are in tel Aviv right now.

Typical interactions go like this, the christian feds show up to derail a thread, or start a thread hating on white man's real religion, and pagans meme them into seething and using commie lingo and tactics, then they just reiterate their programming and start changing the subject or calling us black and/or indian. In THIS THREAD all of this happened, and you have the nerve to completely lie about what happened and make it seem like we're the one's that are feds. You just proved your a fed by saying that lol.

I will always fight against you christcuck vermin, all major jewish institutions back christianity you bitch, you guys are racial cuckholds and spiritual cuckholds at that and in your entire shpeel of cope and seeth and sweaty anger all you've managed to do is further get people away from your cause, furthering my race's success. Just admit you hate white people and fuck off of this board if you're too much of a little bitch to argue fairly and in good faith. You're such a seething faggot your butthole clenches anytime you christian feds get called out.

>>41280876
We are in the midst of the great apostasy
hey schizo, someone in here (probably you) literally likened white pagans to niggers. So go fuck yourself, all you christian shills do is cry and project everything you're doing. Leftist lingo? Media backing? Not staying in character? This thread LITERALLY shows multiple christcucks doing what you are accusing others of doing.

Anyone seeing your post will immediately see the seething anger in your words, you're mad af bro lol

>>41281486
Guaranteed you're a shitskin

>>41281471
You were asked a simple question that you had to be asked multiple times because you refused to respond to it, gave a retarded response which you had explained to you, and you proceeded to chimp out. But yes it was the Christian that derailed the thread

>>41241025 (OP)
Have you noticed how adverts on youtube are trying to brainwash people to buy stupid shit or go on certain diets? I saw a tai chi advert where this ripped Asian dude who is clearly AI generated says that running tears up ligaments, to do tai chi instead. Stop running!

>>41284144
guaranteed you're a seething kike

>>41284247
how many times is your fat ass gonna seethe and respond with the same made up lies? For the one millionth time, you did nothing but hand wave away evidence, bible passages, historical quotes, basic common sense, you hand waved it all away and argued in bad faith from the start all to defend your shitty kike religion. Fuck you. Just keep dancing like a bitch and making these NPC responses.

>>41241025 (OP)
You either have no concept of what you’re talking about

Or you do and you’re lying.

>>41284632
Jew worshippers lying about their detractors. Who would have ever imagined. I wonder where you get that behavior from…

>>41284367
At this point are you lying for yourself? Or are you actually expecting me to believe your lies? I don't even get how you'd expect me to accept your bullshit. I argued in bad faith? I had to ask the same basic question five or so times while responding to every nonsensical thing you said because you kept dodging the question but I somehow argued in bad faith? It's pathetic. No wonder the only place you really see pagans "defend" their position are forums like this where you can just bullshit around. You would need the ability to just spread your bullshit with no inhibitions placed on you like actually having to defend your position so malleable brainlets like this would fall for it.

>>41285157
I didnt read the exchange because i had better things to do. But ive seen plenty of bad actors making deceptive and just plain made up arguments from the christian side on here, and a lot more of it too. For instance there is a jew worshipper den on every street corner in america, i doubt youve ever even met a “pagan” and if you did it was probably some leftist wiccan or something. “Paganism” is an even more varied and vague term than christianity. You cant even accept the premise that your religion is literally judaism 2.0 so basically you should probably just fuck off at this point. No one but your fellow christ golems buys your shit.

>>41285193
>I didnt read the exchange
>ive seen plenty of bad actors
I'm starting to believe they are sending their best

Would you look at that

>>41285261
Why would i want to read the long winded ramblings of someone who doesnt admit even the most basic factual truth about the religion they claim to represent? Stupid kike. Do you think i am somehow required to read every idiotic thong you write in my thread?

>>41285280
Lol so you just hopped in near the end of the conversation to contribute nothing. If you guys aren't trolling I genuinely feel bad for you

>>41285308
I started the thread dumb faggot. Its been up a whole week.

>>41285308
Honestly I wish this board had IDs. And indidnt just “jump in at the end”. As i stated. I just have noninterest wasting my time with people who are in denial going back and forth all day and noght for days. Ive been participating in the convo from the beginning. Nice try at strawman though.

Heres a good example of a Jay Dyer fanboy christcuck. Speak when spoken to like a good slave. Always defer to authority. And this is a good example of the “content” jay puts out: https://youtu.be/zha-8awk1A4
Truly an intellectual giant.

>>41285338
>>41285345
You said you didn't read the conversation right here >>41285193 but of course I'm the idiot for thinking you meant you didn't read the exchange when you said you didn't read the exchange

>>41285360
Ok, allow me to clarify then. To the best of my knowledge (due to anonymous nature of this board) I only partially read the exchange. I saw I assume you and another anon going back and forth attacking each other and dint want to get in the middle of it. I also asked you, i assume, a very straightforward question about transubstantiation and you refused to answer, wrongly accused me of being someone else, etc.

>>41285395
I got asked about transubstantion in this thread and responded to it clearly and it was hand waved for no reason with no explanation. I'm just here to laugh at the anti Christian posters at this point because it's so obvious they have nothing to contribute to the conversation and aren't interested in having a good faith conversation. You see it in every thread about Christianity.

>>41285411
Christfags are only interested in “good faith” discussion to the point that it allows you to spread your cancerous jewish mind virus. Yet, you have no problems calling all pagans homosexuals, africans, jews, etc. If not worshipping a dead jew, even though i believe in God, makes me pagan than so be it. Look at how Jay Dyer conducts himself and tell me that he always engages in “good faith” discussion with his opponents. Let’s just be honest about the fact we consider each other ideological enemies. I think it would be dishonest of you to claim christians on here dont do the exact same things you are complaining about.

>>41285921
I call pagans that act like homosexual African Jews homosexual African Jews.
>wahh Christians are mean and not so no nice sometimes
Ok? I'm sorry that your feelings got hurt while hurling insults, which you're telling me about while you're hurling insults. I thought I was speaking at your level but again, I should have assumed there'd be a double standard. I don't watch Jay much but I do recall a moment where he said he has anger issues among others. The guy is human after all so it makes sense that he would have some character flaws. Does he always have to engage in good faith discussion? I don't think so, although I would say in most videos I've seen of him he is engaging in good faith conversations once you get past his personality flaws.

Do some Christians engage in discussions in bad faith? I don't think I've ever said they haven't in this thread nor would I. I think every subgroup of humans can and has committed most every kind of sin and possesses people with flawed characteristics. When I first came to this thread, I engaged in good faith, and when I saw that wouldn't be reciprocated I turned to shitposting and laughing at the guy chimping out at me.

>>41278270
>What in the schizo are you talking about? Jay has a normal wife

Nope. Post op tranny. Jay is as fruity as they come. Used to fuck him in college.

>>41259967
>Jesus told the Pharisees that they worship a liar and a murderer. Do you want to guess what ethno-religious group stems from the Pharisees? You get one guess.
The same ethno-religious group jesus was apart of.
>Your analysis of Christianity IS the jewish mind control. Christianity was nothing more than a way for the Greeks to incorporate their Mithaic rites/cult of vulkan practices etc into something that would gives jewish people a potential out from their wickedness.
This is retarded
All forms of Christianity are jewish mind control. The only good aspects are just the european spirit trying to salvage something out of it by incorporating pre-christian elements. Think of the catholic church cracking down on the templars, dueling, etc. Any religion that teaches weakness towards your enemy is poison. Strength is what matters in this world, and strength is a sin to the christian mind.
>The meek shall inherit the earth
they have thanks to retards following this bullshit

>>41241025 (OP)
>literal blood rites like transubstantiation
Substitutional atonement is also a blood rite, it's inescapable. Not just in Christianity but in religion generally, it will always be there at least metaphorically.

I agree with you about Dyer but I don't think it's really that creepy or exceptional, more just sad. His fanbase is the typical parasocial religious/political streamer fanbase.

>>41279534
You misread what I said.
I never said Europe needed Christianity. But there is value to European transmutation of these Semitic stories, even if the core religion is Jewish trash

>>41280876
>Christianity's under attack!

Except that President Donald Trump constantly promotes it, major media institutions like the Babylon Bee, Fox News, and the Daily Wire promote it, major corporations like Chik Fil A and Hobby Lobby promote it, Elon Musk and Joe Rogan constantly promote it, and even Liberals promote it, albeit in a neuterized Neoliberal form.

Here's the reality: Christianity fails at solving the issues you want it to solve, which is why you have schizophrenic delusions about the Jews (e.g., Khazar theory) - you need some hostile intruder to explain away why your belief system sucks so much.

>>41279211
>Europe was mythologically and spiritually lost without the Jews
In what sense? Where was the need for the Bible when we already had Homer and Virgil and Hesiod? Or for Thomas Aquinas when we already had Aristotle? Teresa of Avila when we already had Plotinus? Eckhardt when we already had Eleusis?

I agree with you that the Bible and by extension Judaism has been like it or not a central part of the West's development and that you can't just excise it from Western culture. The King James Bible and as you said Mozart's masses are a lot more deeply rooted than any artificial attempt to replace them could possibly be. But you're overstating the case to a disgusting extent. Europe was not spiritually lost before Christianity. It was developing just fine spiritually and Christianity hijacked that and closed off a lot of potential paths as a result. Some permanently, some for 1800 years.

>>41280876
every evil globalist empire from rome to britain to usa adopted christianity as their state religion lmao

stop pretending to be oppressed you spiritual jew

>>41277860
You’re a projecting jew trying to cope with everyone knowing jews and your Abrahamic golems hate the truth. Gnosticism instantly exposes your lies.

>>41286732
You're misreading what I'm saying.

I'm saying that if you are a Christian, that's the conclusion you have to come to. That means believing that the Jews are responsible for Western Civilization, ultimately, which is just retarded from a historical perspective.

I believe in the opposite, actually - Europe would be fine without Christianity. And I can actually see the mythological value of the Judeo-Christian mythos without viewing it as a necessity for my soul.

>>41285157
>doesn't even bother all the evidence he handwaved away
>repeats himself for the millionth time
I didn't dodge anything, I answered your question and you kept dodging evidence presented afterwards. But go ahead retard, keep repeating yourself and arguing in bad faith. You're REALLY holding onto this whole "you didn't answer my question uhuhue" because that's all yo can latch onto.

Just another christian fed projecting his shitskin bullshit. Go ahead, say the same thing for the one billionth time in a repy to this I dare you.


See here? This is evidence youclearly didn't even answer or acknowledge in any way shape or form.
>>41269334

^ these are bible passages but like every dirty retard christcuck you will cherry pick parts of the bible that sound okay on paper but use nothing but deception and obfuscate and ignore the inconvenient parts.

All to defend your shitty kike religion too lol and there's sooo much more evidence you dodged. So many more responses you ignored and hand waved away.

>>41285954
hey bitch, I called you a homosexual shitskin and a woman first and you even admitted it and conceded to it. And all you have ever done in this thread is hand wave everything away, like the transubstantiation thing, you COMPLETELY hand waved that away and never bothered answering, just to name one example.

You literally argue exactly like a jew or a shitskin and nobody takes you seriously. Not online or in real life.

>>41286732
I understand what you're saying but I just want to make it clear that without christianity the white man would be hundreds if not thousands of ears more advanced now and christianity is evil jewish trash.

I also believe that we NEED to replace and destroy anything christian, as it is jewish i nature and poison. We can easily replace christiaity with a far superior religion, and since the jews literally invented multiple religions to keep multiple masses of humans in line (christianity, islam etc) it would be FANTASTIC lore for our peoples to come to the conclusion that these religions being all poison should now be seen as the evil mind viruses that they are, and whether you believe in the supernatural or not, imagine the old european Gods making a comeback and the future white people look back on this era as insanely disgusting

"Can you believe people used to worship a bitch like Jesus?" One European from the year 2108 says, "lol I know right?" responds another.

It doesn't necessarily mean everything christian should be erased from the record of time (although I would personally be ok with this) but it should be seen in the same vein as communism,pedophilia, and medical malpractice of the victorian era. Christianity has no other future than to be mocked and ridiculed as a piece of europe's dark era, and nothing more or simply erased from europe's collective racial memory ethos. There can be no other path, and if we preserve some stuff as a warning to the European race to never let this happen again then yeah I suppose we can keep Mozart's Masses around but as far as I'm concerned christianity is NOT inseparable from the white man's mind.

You seem like an alright guy, but I just need you to understand what I'm saying. We can remove this filth from our societies and even if I have to sacrifice some decent creations from christcucks it's better to go into the future without any jewish poison. I hope I'm making sense here.

>>41286732
Also yo mentioned some paths were closed permanently but I disagree, the white man can always rise back up and christianity will simply be seen as a massive bump in the road to his otherwise awesome destiny. The disgusting christcucks don't realize this but they're on the wrong side of history here and will be even more forgotten about as their pathetic jewish god. And I love making these people seethe, anyone who attacks my race deserves such treatment.

>>41285954
You didnt hurt my feelings, just acted
Like a complete faggot and disingenuous retard who dodges every question or gives non answers and accuses other of exactly what you are doing. Just like a jew. You are just a faggot fan boy running defense for your gay parasocial evangelical idol. “Once you get past his personality flaws”. Uhhh, i though orthodoxy was a religion of works, and your mind and actions were to be aligned with God and all that bullshit? More pilpul

>>41287116
Lol look at this delusional homosexual

>>41289371
Orthodoxy is a religion for the spiritually seek, not people who are perfect, but this is what the religion teaches, I'm sure you have some totally different opinion about it that just so happens to contradict that which is totally correct which you'll just assert and try to move on from yet again because your strategy is just to vomit bullshit and move on from it. (It isn't working)

>>41287103
That doesn't explain how to tell when a Jew is being honest or when a Jew is lying. That's just equivocating yet again and you're just avoiding answering that question still trying to reach the bump limit

>>41291113
A religion for the spiritually weak? No, I don’t disagree with that at all. Adds up with it being a slave morality and all. However is it really so much to ask that people who prop themselves up as spiritual leaders actually act the part? I do follow jew on a stick worship so I dont really care if faghots like Dyer practice what they preach or not, but its amusing to watch tards like you run damage control for someone who treats his fans with disdain and mere propaganda mouthpieces to make slop clip channels of his content, which he claims not to control but tells them what to do, who to ban etc. everything ive said is right out and the open, not some secret.

>>41291199
Dont* follow

>>41291199
I literally defined it as for people who aren't perfect. I get you are anon of course. And no, it's not unreasonable to expect people that are part of a religion for people who aren't perfect to not be perfect. It's not damage control, it's basic teachings of the religion. Which I know, you know so much more about (even though everything you say about it runs contrary to what it actually teaches) but hey, why would I trust saints, theologians, priests, monks, etc. when I can just listen to some retard on 4chan instead.

Make sure you keep throwing slurs and insults by the way instead of actually addressing what I say.

>>41291232
Haha. You said “its a religion for the spiritually seek”. Given that this doesnt
make sense in proper english, I assumed you may have meant weak. After all there are plenty of verses about that. Someone who not only presents themselves as a spiritual teacher, but also an expert in theology of the religion that claims that you become more close to perfection the more you follow the teachings of the church and apostles etc. You jew worshipping faggots love to appeal to authority and say that anyone who presents a logical critique of your beliefs just doesnt know enough about them.

>>41291232
I’ve addressed what you say in every response i ever made to you in this thread. But like the pilpul jew you are all you do is change goalposts and evade. Since you are a retard who needs things explained to them, ive included a handy AI screengrab for your edification.

Anyway this thread wasnt meant to be some kind of sweeping debunking orthodoxy merely a critique of Jay Dyer. Heres some more evidence of his Narcissism and Psychopathic online behavior: https://theoriatv.substack.com/p/jay-dyer-and-the-psy-op-to-subvert

>>41291325
I meant spiritually sick but thanks for hopping on a typo, it really shows how smart you are anon.
>passages out of context
Nice, this has never been done before!

>>41291381
No one's debunked orthodoxy in this thread lmao

>>41291398
“Hopping on a typo”. God what a weak minded faggot you are. I wasnt hopping on a typo i was trying to understand what you wrote.
>no one has debunked orthofaggotry LMAO
Jay Dyer does that well enough with his actions. And his gay fanboys in those thread did a pretty good job too. But keep thinking you won here with your half assed parroted “epistemology”, kike retard.

And to close out the thread. A pic of Gays tranny wife “who cant have kids”. Cheers anons.

>>41291430
It's an actual typo that you hopped on lmao and then you immediately turn around and lie about it of course because you have to lie about everything. How else would anyone know you're acting out of good faith if you weren't constantly lying. Then you post screenshots of out of context passages that you had to ask Google Gemini or whatever AI for. The exact same tactics as reddit tranny atheists and you're rushing to get to the end of the thread by attacking the guy's wife. Just a pathetic showing all around from pagan larpers, but what do you expect from people this deluded.

>>41291467
Are you a literal drooling retard? Show exactly where I lied. Whining christian faggot. You typed something that didnt make sense in english, and I, figuring it was indeed a typo or autocorrect assumed you meant “weak” because thats close to seek. Even knowing that you now intended to write “sick” my original point still stands as sickness and weakness are related and given the context, practically interchangeable. More pilpul from the whining rabbi.

>>41291593
So you admit to hopping on a typo, which you said you didn't do. Every time I call you out on your bullshit you just label it as me whining and bitching. You've done nothing but bullshit around and try and gaslight me all thread and call me a retard for not falling for this shit. I'm not crying about it by calling it out for what it is. And posting out of context passages like an atheist troon from Reddit is boring and stupid. Just you showing you don't have any reading comprehension yet again.

yes, there are obviously multiple programmed figures with handlers trying to push things one way or the other to influence people in an inauthentic way to serve a higher agenda (of evil)

>>41241025 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Um1Njhe2Y

>>41291670
Get a load of this faggot.

>>41291670
Seethe harder tranny. I didnt admit to “hopping on anything”. But you should really hop off Jay Dyers cock. Read my reply again very slowly, because i know its hard for a retard like you to understand and form coherent thoughts. I responded to your post as i assumed you meant it. Which turned out to be the correct way, because spiritual sick people are also spiritually weak people. You then accused me of “hopping on a typo” when all i did was point that what you wrote didnt make sense in proper english so you must have meant anothernword, whoch i thought was weak but turned out to be sick. You talmudic freaks really are hilarious. My argument didn’t amount to anything close to “you made a typo therefore your argument is invalid”. Which obviously you are well aware of you just cant help being a pilpul jew who worships internet influencers.

You also said nobody debunked orthodoxy yet in this thread. Allow me to do so with a simple quote from your own jewish joly book: You shall not make for yourself a carved image... You shall not bow down to them nor serve them" (Exodus 20:4-5)
Yet that is exactly what you idol worshippers do. Pray to statues, bones, dead bodies and pieces of wood. Disgusting, no better than African tribal pagans.
http://orthodoxinfo.com/death/mummies.aspx

>>41291826
>Seethe harder tranny
Let me guess, I stole this from you
>you made a typo so your argument is invalid
I never said your argument amounted to this. Not only because you don't make arguments, but also because you never said it.

>>41291837
>takes two verses out of context and rips out part of them
Lol, just more of a dishonest tactic.
>Pray to statues, bones, dead bodies and pieces of wood
Like the Ark of the Covenant? Or the bronze serpent? Or the images in Solomon's Temple? Or Elisha's bones? Oh wait, my bad, that's bad faith to put verses from the Bible in the wider context of the entire text, it's way more honest to cherry pick quotes.

>Disgusting, no better than African tribal pagans.
Right I'm sure through all of European paganism there's nothing similar. You should honestly read a book or learn something instead of just gathering all your information from 4chan

>>41291874
All youve done is go round on circles. And make strawman arguments. Dont you have some mummies to make out with or statues of mary to worship? You used your getting butthurt by me
Pointing out your typo (yet not at all making it the crux of my argument) to completely sidestep the entire point about christianity being a subbersive jewish slave morality. Something people have been pointing out for this entire thread and you have yet to refute a single time. The verses were not taken out of context because they are verses about weakness. Your own words were tht “its a religion for the spiritually sick”. I am agreeing with you that you and other brainlet jew worshippers are indeed spiritual sick. Your own book (the part that isnt the Torah where genetic insular tribal jews go about genociding other tribes and rejoicing in their racial superiority over the goyim by divine right) DELIGHTS in weakness and is practically obsessed by it. Thats why forgiving your enemies and turning the other cheek, “charity” etc are some of the most well known facets of your religion globally. You fell for a marxist dialectial jewish subversive blood cult and your religion has been a net negative on civilization and needs to be stamped out like the sickness that it is. You say i only get my info on 4chan whereas yhe truth is I am likely far more educated on the topicnof Christianity in general. Whereas parasocial faggots like you need someone like Dyer to tell you what to believe because you have no capability for original thinking. Sad, but its amusing to watch you squirm like the disgusting worm that you are.

>>41291874
How many years have you been studying Christianity, philosophy or comparative religion? Give us a straight answer for once…. Also dont lie mr. Jew.

>>41292011
Oh look! Instead of engaging with what I said he's taking more quotes out of context! You're likely more educated than me on Christianity which is why you have to resort to that as a tactic. You dont want to engage with verses when placed in context with the rest of the Bible, nor do you want to engage with what Saints and Church Fathers have to say (I know it's because you don't know this stuff), nor do you want to define any of the terms you use. You're just so wrapped in being egotistical and effeminate that you can't think straight. You bounce all over the place and refuse to stay on any topic. I fell for Jewish blah blah blah yet when I try to have a conversation about that topic you jump to something else to vomit a bunch of assertions. Exactly the way Hitler said Jews would debate about things.

>>41292017
Honestly it's probably longer than you've been alive at this point. And I've read Nietzsche which I know you haven't.

>>41289915
anyoca can scroll up and see I'm right

>>41291123
I already answered this stupid question, to which you hand waved it away and when I asked why YOU believe the jews when some of them pretend to hate christians you brought up nothing...Not even a snarky little reply projecting, you just ignored it.

Unlike you I actually read Nietzsche and when I actually explained some of the stuff he talked about you stopped telling me I haven't read him since I think even you figured out that wasn't going to work moving forware, and then you just kepr hurling insults because you had nothing to go on.

Literally this entire thread you've just been desperately attempting to get to the bump limit because you're a faggot retard who can't debate anything.

When you respond to me, make sure to project your inadequacies onto me and don't forget to bring up that stupid question I answered a million times, then accuse me of doing what you've done. That's the only reason you keep replying to me with the same fucking dogshit answers.

>>41292069
look at this sad little homosexual middle eastern death cult member. You've never read Nietzsche and when I asked you for proof you never provided it.

>>41292069
>You're likely more educated than me on Christianity which is why you have to resort to that as a tactic.
you've appealed to aurthority this entire thread and use your supposed education as a bludgeoning tool without actually proving you know anything.
>Saints and Church Fathers have to say
again you're appealing to authority, and also who cares what jewish saints and church fathers have to say about anything? That's literally no different than what rabbis have to say.
>Honestly it's probably longer than you've been alive at this point
you argue and act like a spoiled child when he doesn't get his way, you aren't a man and aren't impressing anyone. All you can do is use appeal to authority all while pretending nobody here has read Nietzsche which is false and when you were called out on not knowing what he wrote you ignored the matter and just moved on to pilpul.

And you will continue to do the same thing over again because you don't actually know this stuff, and haven't the slightest clue why you believe what you believe. No different than an LGBTQAIDS communist faggot, and since christianity was the original communism it checks out.

The only thing I can think of that would make him seem like a controlled op is his presenting/hedging of the Manson bruhaha, Spahn Ranch and Tate murders as real events.

>>41292585
Your whole religion and argument for god is appeal to authority you sniveling kike. When you get destroyed again and again you just say we dont know enough about your religion and “must get all our info from 4chan”. Didnt answer my question I see and still confusing me and someone else. You dumb faggot. Which Nietzsche books have you read? Clearly you cant even read a simple 4chan post. Been here over a week crying like a bitch, dodging, evading and making false accusations like the jew you are. Keep seething pilpul dead jew on a stick worshipper its good entertainment.

>>41294073
you're mistaking me for that other guy who's a seething christcuck who was crying the past week, I recall him chimping out at me over Nietzsche. I believe you replied to the wrong guy, I was calling him out, not you.

I agree btw, fuck him and his kike religion lol.

>>41292069
>out of context
How many times have I given you a straight answer yet you use that tired argument again and again. Now you are an authority on Hitler too? Spiritually sick closeted homo christian faggot boy, you wouldnt know context if it crucified you to a tree..

>>41294092
Ok my bad bro. You were quoting him but i thought you were responding to me.