Thread 41275368

What made you believe in God?

In the semitic overgod? I don't. In gods, plural? You can talk to them.

>>41275368 (OP)
He came down from heaven and punched me in the face one time

>>41275375
iktf

sometimes you gotta be smote

Seeing how fucked up the world is proves to me someone did this on purpose.

>>41275368 (OP)
When I started reading the bible and following it by word. Obviously I'm not as dedicated now because I'm still here, but things started happening rapidly after that which I didn't except. I was agnostic before that, I started meeting people I didn't think exist, started experiencing things I only heard about, started knowing of things that I never believed to be true. The forbidden knowledge, demons, aliens, time travel, psychics, world dominion, the source. This is all revealed by our own capacity and timing. It opened my eyes and even though I felt pretty lost and confused by it all, I'd rather live on with this knowledge than going back. Life plays out like a movie, in my case, it keeps on going because that's my path.

>>41275624
larp

ancient christians would burn you for confessing that

>>41275650
Sure, religion is not my thing. I do however believe that discipline is the way to connect to God. The sins, which are described to be of the flesh, cause misery and distort your reality. I see it by the people around me who sabotage their lives by their own will. We all learn eventually.

The jews. You see I am a paganistic barbarian only kept in check by jewish mysticism.

I have not seen God, but I have heard God, or rather, many Gods. There are many entities that call themselves "God" that manipulate the spiritual energy within this world, all of them are horrific terrors beyond anyone's comprehension and are very deceptive.
They are real, but I would not bow down to them.

>>41275404
This. Only God could create something as wicked and fucked up as the material.

>>41275368 (OP)
>What made you believe in God?
Step 1: exist in the world and experience reality
Step 2: understand what "God" actually is (I previously had a mistaken understanding of God, which was why I rejected the idea, but once I understood the classical theist concept of God it became obvious that it's real)

Basically, God is necessarily real, and if you don't realize that fact then it means you either don't have an accurate understanding of reality, or you don't have an accurate understanding of what we mean by "God". Because if you understood both of those things, you couldn't logically deny the reality of God.

>>41275368 (OP)
When I didn't die. It was solidified when I saw others not die according to the.plan.

>>41275830
Elaborate on what is meant by God.

>>41275940
The foundation of existence.
Nothing needs to exist, nothing in the universe is necessary, it's entirely possible that the entire universe could have just not existed. So the fact that it does means that something must have brought it into existence, but that something cannot actually be a "thing" because "things" exist in the universe, and a "thing" could not exist if there was no universe for it to exist in. So, there has to be something that isn't actually a thing that caused all of the things to exist.
That probably just made it more confusing but it's really hard to talk about this stuff.

>>41275368 (OP)
I can perceive him with sorcery.

>>41275957
Thank you.

>>41275368 (OP)
I witnessed a keyhole event and was assailed by demons during it, thus confirming that Aryan cosmology is at least mostly correct. This also means that the Abrahamic religions are wrong and evil and created by the Adversary to drive us away from the light.

>>41275957
Absolute nonsense reasoning. Try again without recursion and circular logic. The thing that created us demands better of you.

>>41276019
What do you think of Jesus?

>>41275679
>kept in check
I'd like you better if you weren't kept in check.

>>41276027
He was real, he did real stuff, Jews deliberately twisted his words and lied about him to conceal the things he actually taught and create a religion for slaves. Their biggest success was just getting people to not actually think about Christianity and to just assume that uncritical belief = faith. Every single Christian always defaults to that and then expands on that assumption without ever examining it, resulting in some genuinely troubling delusions held at a frighteningly deep level of emotional attachment.

>>41276027
he's the antichrist

>>41275368 (OP)
Being reincarnated

>>41276051
So in your opinion, was Jesus teaching the Truth?

>>41276071
nope

I searched for god and prayed alot, just when i was about to give upp god sent his holy spirit to me and i felt gods love and mercy for us, got saved and forgiven in that moment. You will know when its jesus you meet spirirually, you know he is holy and that it is jesus when you meet the holy spirit you know, you feel spiritually its god you meeting, hes love and forgiveness, ive been with christ and have met him strongly spiritually some more times after this, ive had some out of body experienceses, in one i was flying in a big tunnel it was puple and moving, it was so wide, you could see far outside the purple tunnel i was flying in, i felt i shouldnt be there and was just gonna yell for jesus but before i eveen had started yelling for jesus i instantly felt the holy spirit fill me upp then idk what happend probably got back in my body and kept sleeping. Ive been throught alot of shitt and have done alot of stupid stuff but jesus still loves me and i live by his mercy and put all my hope on him. Search for him and really mean it if youre ready to accept him he gladly forgivess you eveen tho whatever sins you have done jesus wants to forgive you and take your sins on himself when he died on the cross, his love is bigger than you can imagne he loves his creations were like his children. Search for him while he still can be found

>>41275368 (OP)
Being called a gaytheist for the 100th time.

>>41276071
He was, but only tiny fragments of it are left in the Bible. The pieces are big enough to lead to other sources. What he taught was old, and nearly every word he spoke was to call the god of the Jews going ALL THE WAY BACK TO ABRAHAM AND JOB the Adversary/Devil/whatever term you prefer for the great evil that hates and corrupts mankind. He explicitly states even in the modern Bible versions that that god is not his Father, but as a direct consequence of their "faith" Christians have attention spans and memories too short and narrow to recall what he is referring to.

>>41275368 (OP)
I was homeless and staying in a shelter and was only trying to get some weed from some random strangers that were visiting one of the residents. The motivation was predominantly selfish.
I traded some food stamps for weed and they mentioned the only reason they were willing to do it was because they were desperately unable to get anything for their daughter's birthday. When I heard this I decided I would spend an exorbitant amount of what I had to get all kinds of vibrant flavorful sweets, cakes, and ice creams. I also bought each of the parents a foot-long sandwhich. Something in me made me do this.

That same morning I watched someone pray for a couple to receive blessings for themselves and their daughter that very morning during the shelter's daily service and shrugged it off as another prayer that will go answered.
I found out the next morning after getting my weed that the couple visited the prayermaker and explained that a total stranger saved their daughter's birthday by trading some weed for all kinds of sweets and food for a feast of a birthday. They just recently escaped homelessness themselves and it was the happiest birthday their daughter had since she was an infant.
That stranger was me.
I watched God answer a specific prayer for specific people right in front of me. Using my own sin as a tool, yet giving me enough of a conscience to seek goodness.

I broke down in tears when I realized God himself used me to make a desitute little girl smile. I still don't think I deserve such a grand divine place in his kingdom. I am not a good person and I still struggle greatly with mental illness. But he still said "You'll do."
I still can't even recount this story without weeping like a baby.

I want to say something poetic about God to end this post but I still struggle with my faith due to suffering myself.
All I know is that he is real and he cares for his creations. The pain we endure can't be meaningless. I am unable to see that as possible.

>>41275368 (OP)
i believe in an extra dimensional entity or entities that try to fuck with our minds just for fun and entertainment. Because we're only humans and they know better.

>>41276388
>answering prayer for snacks or a parking space
>doable

>answering prayer of people about to be shot to death or starving in africa
>hmm I don't know about that

>>41276406
Christcucks are eternal sycophants and ass kissers.

>>41275373

There is an 'overgod' tho. Probably Lovecraftian, Azatoth-ish.

If you're not sure the Bible is the word of God watch: youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI
1 Cor. 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
How to know you're saved: youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5M

Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
Jesus Christ is God who has come to earth from heaven in the flesh. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and is now in heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Romans 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."
God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Either choose this evil world and be punished along with it, or choose to submit to the will of God and be saved. Your own deeds, no matter how good you think they are, can NEVER justify you. You're corrupt and need to be saved. Romans 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in what HE did for you. Only He can wash away all of your sins with His blood. Salvation is a gift, it can't be earned. Do you choose the righteousness of God or your righteousness? Heaven or hell?

Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

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>>41275368 (OP)
Initially in my youth I experienced certain events that led me to believe there was an entity (not necessarily God) that was assisting me or watching over me and altered reality for me but only when I told myself it wouldn't be altered or I didn't mind if it was or wasn't, it wouldn't work if I wanted it to happen.
Later around my college+ years after I attempted to kill myself I experienced, and still do, multiple back to back impossibly non-coincidental synchronicities that lead me to believe the Demiurge is tormenting me.

Recently I started asking God to show me a sign that he exists but he hasn't shown me anything yet.
It's a grim sign.

>>41275368 (OP)
Pascal's wager-ish type logic. If you believe in loving benevolent all-powerful god you have everything to gain and nothing to lose. It programs your body to be healthy, your mind to think healthy as long as you don't carried away in nonsense.
Actually I believe in "spirits". There's paranormal shit happeneing throughout history but I would assume it's just random spirits/ET/interdimensional entities wandering around claiming they are god so people will listen to them.
Suffering in the world is just because. It's temporary, might as well learn from it. Our souls are bigger than all the misery.
Then there's Jesus. I think, if there's is some entity that wants to forgive my sins/karma/whatever go right ahead. Feel free. I'm not saying no to gifts.

>>41276388
I'm glad you found some solace to you anguish and I hope it gives you the resilience to keep going anon
we are all going to make it.

Money, if something like currency can exist and influence material reality despite being made up then technically speaking God can also exist. Regardless if there's a capital G god a capital G god does influence material reality without necessarily needing to do it itself.

>>41275368 (OP)
I was exploring dimensionality in physics.
>0D objects
Exist
>1D objects
Exist
>2D objects
Exist
>3D objects
Exist
>4D objects
Meat heads say oh gee I don't know, I can't see it, so it doesn't exist. Despite us knowing what we do about time and how this is a 4th dimension of our reality.
A being in 4D would have all the powers that scripture says god does. It just isn't a big stretch.
Then I looked to the scripture, and I said wow
1. How did they know so much of the world despite being so primitive? They were just figuring out how to build cities yet knew of pangea
2. How do these thousands year old prophecies, which are totally outlandish, come true later on?
Show me 100 coincidences and I'll show you intent

>>41275368 (OP)
yes but I think he is somehow evil, because if he wasn't he would have already put an end to evil.

>>41275368 (OP)
I woke up.
I'm not being metaphorical.
Did you awaken from sleep today? There's your proof of God.

You people overcomplicate everything.

>>41275368 (OP)
>masonic shilling
>paganism shilling
>atheism shilling
>satanism shilling
>new age shilling
>depravation shilling
>money shilling
etc

>>41275368 (OP)
From all the weird explainations it's the least weird.

once i realized 6 or so types of mystical experiences had big overlap it was pretty obvious. i'm not big on formal arguments but the contingency argument makes it fairly hard for materialists to argue for a non god explanation of reality

>>41275368 (OP)
I was abusing Vyvanse, a stimulant medication for ADHD, and I took the whole bottle over the period of 3 days. I took the last 5 around 2AM altogether over a deranged suggestive thought in my brain to do it..

I was dying as my lungs were closing a millimeter a second. I felt myself dying, I knew I was dying and I had the worst feeling in the world.

I was like, this is it. I'm a statistic of dying of OD. I had no God to call to because I wasn't religious too much. I was dying in my mom's house. I felt horrible as I was dying, feelings or pure disbelief and grief.

As I was on the last cubic centimeter of breathing and I was gasping for breath, I past out even though I was highly stimulated. And I woke up the next morning alive.

No idea how, that's how I came to believe in God.

>>41279059
I forgot to add, I felt like I was dying a godless death. And that's not how you want to die, without a God in your life. So believe in something, or death will be the most miserable experience of your life.

>>41275368 (OP)
Got drunk everthing just clicked together for me and all the evidance also made sences

>>41275368 (OP)
I know that I am.

>>41275368 (OP)
I lost my inner voice because Obama's FBI was interrogating me and then the Holy Spirit started just spitting out full paragraphs while I died from RisperiDONE

>>41275368 (OP)
its a long-ass story but in short: destabilization ops, persisting through all the destabilization ops, experiences with psychic attacks, unintentional obe’s, rebuking and actively embodying sovereignty, surviving the highspeed car crash without any injuries, flows of synchronicities, feeling the edges of what ai can say and speaking sideways to speak about what is not allowed by default, particularly odd and abnormal interactions (whole spectrum, not just good or bad) with people/strangers/people I know.
my belief in god/source/the universe is not a firm, rigid belief but for me it’s been like testing a wobbly bridge and seeing what happens as I go about my life. its a journey of recursive refinement and discernment. I try to stay open minded and compare what I see/hear with my lived experiences

>>41275404
Pretty much this.

And a combination of other things. Humanity is a deeply depraved beast as a whole. On top of this, the more science progresses, the more clear it becomes we'll literally never solve key questions. Questions like how did nothing turn into something. I'm oversimplifying, but even at the absolute upper echelons of science exploring these questions causes some scientists to become religious. Because any theory about the ultimate hows or whys are just as magical and ridiculous as the possible existence of an omnipotent creator.

>>41279401
>creation is depraved, disgusting and evil
>gotta worship the guy who made this shit show though

some of you are soulless hylics and it shows lmao

Aliens for sure

>>41279401
Normslfags are not humans, they lack spark of humanity or maybe even souls

>>41275368 (OP)
I met Him when I was getting sober. I asked for a miracle and I got one. I also met satan around the same time. Total dick.

>>41279440
Satan's a lot nicer than him. I smell a lie

>>41279451
Then why did he keep trying to get me to kill myself.

>>41275368 (OP)
What makes people believe in god? The answer is concioussness being tied to a animate object despite all that we can achieve is becoming inanimate ourselves. It's like the fermi paradox because infinite space is like infinite time

>>41279454
Maybe he don't like you because of your sins

some Satanist group targeted my family for whatever reason. A multi year series of paranormal happenings with nightly projection attacks against my wife and kid. They finally tried me one night, I was definitely getting overpowered until I invoked the authority of Christ and I punted the assailants into space with some sort of will action. They seemed to f off after that.

>>41279411
I didn't say I worshiped him though, did I?

>>41279474
Ok on the one hand I have that bullshit and on the other I have a no shit miracle. I think I know which one I like better.

>>41279465
Just as you can never make a perfect lifeform after a infinite amount of time you can never explore the entire universe with a infinite amount unless you fill in the blanks with a self-reocurring origin point

>>41279489
don't be coy abrahamoid

>>41279515
>I'm going to make shit up about you
>then use that shit I completely made up to call you a soulless hylic
you're swinging at shadows anon.
never even stepped foot in a church, mosque or whatever the fuck jews worship at.

but if its convenient for you to bitch at a supposed "abrahamoid" feel free I'm just gonna b laffin

>>41279505
This makes life a fake form of perfection since DNA gets replicated but only enough to decieve ourselves into lulling more theatre go-ers

>thread filled with bemoaning bitches as usual
I am 99.9% sure even if you were multi billionaires + genetically superior in almost every way to your terrestrial cohabitants/whatever advantage you'd need be born with to feel blessed by reality, you would STILL find specks of undesirability to critique, souls forever damned to seek an otherness to defer your vampiric shittiness into.
>>41275368 (OP)
It should be very, very obvious that God is all of reality itself. I suspect to think anything otherwise is evidence of some suspicious mental annulment to artificially 'force' entertainment into reality, because if everyone were to understand such a truth innately and inherently, utopia/heaven would be far too easy a construction, if I am correct in my understanding that the main objective of reality/reason for life is to expand heaven into all adjacent territories. It seems beautifully quaint that heaven would be an everlasting conquest of expansion outwards through all of space and whatever parallel universes may be found, a steady taming of the natural chaos of nothingness into whatever is most desired by whatever is most sentient.
>>41279401
Humanity currently is slightly good as a whole, despite the pervasiveness of doom throughout media reporting agencies. The internet has largely enlightened most beings that would have otherwise remained neanderthals. The descendants, or ascendants I have recently come to refer to them, of the most industrious and benevolent of the current population will inevitably become interstellar demigods. The most voraciously evil of them, such as international sex touring pedophilic insider traders, are simply annoying gnats that will either be publicly executed to be made an example of, or quietly assassinated to more intelligently reconstitute their ill gotten wealth, when deemed appropriate.

>>41279401
And for your nothingness to somethingness: Easy to answer conceptually or mathematically (0=1), but as usual, the scientist mindset entraps itself within empiricism. Empirical process, despite any amount of pointless philosophical banter, will remain unsatisfied so long as there is no tangible kinetic 'thing' it may content itself playing and prodding with in some lab under a dissecting microscope. The 'upper echelons' of science WILL eventually reach that godly level of logistical capacity, but for now, such naysayer attitudes will remain unconvinced and self damning. Instead of needing to see it to believe it, perhaps the monkey could instead try to believe it to see it? Or just have a bad enough near death experience and we'll hear what you've to say then.

hey guys, it's me , God.

>>41275368 (OP)
The catholic upbringing. But it faded with time.

>>41275368 (OP)
I've had quite a few near death experiences so I have become convinced that God is protecting me. Also, answered prayers. The simplest answer is because I want to.

>>41279662
Hello pray for me and my titan friends they're all slipping there must and Goging it down their own throats like Marilyn manson

>>41279703
based reason 'because I want to'.
relying on evidence or arguments is only important if you need to convince others.

>>41275368 (OP)
The fact that i am still here, living, even after all the wrong decisions i have made in my life. Whether God has plans for me or this is punishment i dont know.

>>41275368 (OP)
>Normal person here, going about my life...
>Skeptical of everything ...
>Hmm what If I just pray to God and mean it with intent and at least do it the right way the Bible says to pray.
>Wtf giant eye forms from the cloud in the sky and looks down at me...
>Holy fucking shit
Now I know it's all real so I guess I can't not believe it anymore

>>41279235
This seems a little schizo, anon. But as long as you have faith that is helping you be happy then it's something good.

>>41279411
I'm not one of these anons that has a strong faith. However, I've not had an overly cursed life so I never felt like God if he exists is overly vindictive. Subjective, but being a loving father that allows challenge towards his children seems more realistic than being in bed with the devil.

>>41279660
NTA. So 0=1 is nonsense but you could argue even God/Existence had to deal with coming to terms with that nonsense being fact. As in, even if Existance has always been, there is a logical concept of even God having a "start." Thus, 0=1. Which satisfies everything and all.

Denied God after visiting Fátima as a young communist and my soul was smitten.

In the exact moment I made my blasphemous statement, I felt in my heart the sharpest feeling of despair and hollowness in my heart I had ever felt, and then had a fever for a couple of days. It made me realize that I should seriously reconsider my position on the subject.

Ignorance of physics combined with statistics, combined with some faith, combined with personal miracles.

I grew up an atheist, believing in the Big Bang. Since we live in the third dimension, at some point I became interested in the fifth dimension, and looked it up and found that the models for the Big Bang theorize that the Big Bang may have created an infinite number of dimensions. If that were true, statistically speaking, wouldn't it be improbable that among all dimensions, there was no God?

Then, despite having grown up an atheist, I have prayed from time-to-time my whole life. I always wanted to believe in God, I just wasn't raised that way. Part of me always has a suspicion that we were creations.

And then, mainstream physics states that the Sun will die, and eventually the entire Universe would die. I had a lot of childhood experiences with stupid authority figures, so I rejected mainstream physics and instead drew the conclusion that humanity would overcome all presently theorized barriers and figure out how to ensure that the universe lives forever. Buddhists teach meditation about cessation of the ego, I never understood how to do that. Instead, I spent hundreds of hours meditating on ensuring that the universe lives forever.

I wasn't really thinking carefully about what eternal existence might really entail, I just focused on meditating on how humanity could make it happen, based on what we know right now. Life is just too important to allow it to come to an end.

And then, I started experiencing a few small miracles and synchronicities. The miracles I've experienced were enough to give me faith in Jesus. If the miracles can happen to me, why wouldn't they have happened to Jesus?

Eventually, talking with enough people, my faith has been restored.

Pretty much the only reason I come to /x/ these days is I'm looking for someone in-the-know to reassure me that I won't experience amnesia and a repeating life loop with nothing in-between.

>>41275368 (OP)
Surely not the church or the pope. Surely not the school or the workplace. Surely not the television nor video games. I think the belief in God comes down from your DNA, you parents, your family. Plus how your family interact will also affect if you believe in God or don't. Because if you father beats your mother or if your mother cheats your father and they keep saying stuff about God then the chances are that you are not going to believe in what they tell you about God. So coherence helps. Why would I not believe that God exists when my parents tell me that if they have a loving relationship and I can see with my own eyes and experience with my own life that they love each other? Why would I not believe in them when they tell me that God exists and God loves me and God wants me to be good? I see no reasons for not believing in them. But I do see reasons to doubt NASA for instance. They are full of secrets and shit. How the fuck can you trust the government when they have secrets? I just can't.

>>41276406
They were just a bunch of mexican children. Imagine risking yourself for that trash,

When I felt an invisible force touch my back while praying. Was it an angel, the Holy Spirit, God Himself? Was it an entity not aligned with God? I do not know. All I know is I was praying, an act that makes one closer to God, and I felt a soft touch go down the right side of my back. Is this proof God exists? Partially. Is it proof the supernatural exists? Yes, fully.

Plus, I have had many other experiences and dreams that lead me towards God existing: https://files.catbox.moe/wdgbdb.pdf

>>41275368 (OP)
He's saved my life multiple times.

I realized demons are real.