Thread 41280917

How do you find a spiritual community when most occult/pagan groups are underground in Christian countries?

>occult
Online is probably the best, if not do it through conversation in public and hope you get lucky. If someone is interested in psychedelics, they're most likely also interested in some degree of occultism and alternative spirituality.
>pagan
Paganism is not a religion or an occult practice. It is a word describing your status as a hillbilly in the eyes of the extinct Roman empire. Groups that were described as pagans engaged in magic, animism, witchcraft, etc., but seeking "pagan groups" either means you're looking for hillbillies or you're going to find a bunch of gay liberal retards.
If you want something like general bush wizardry, see the above bit about hanging out with stoners. If you want something like a druidic order, you can look for one to join or possibly start your own.

You could skip both of those though if you just accepted that left-hand path spirituality is generally something done solo because you simply don't NEED a group to do it.

>>41280917 (OP)
The only spiritual community you will find through occultism and most if not all pagan practices is the company of demons.

>>41280917 (OP)
>How do you find a spiritual community
i found my church, it's this website

>>41280917 (OP)
CQ Radio
youll make friends
i made a craigslist ad once, was up for about 10 minutes before jews shoah'd it. got 3 emails, 2 i met irl and became friends with.

>>41280917 (OP)
lmao imagine thinking that shit is "underground" instead of being actively pushed in every western country

>>41281204
demons are just what jews call gods
but youre not wrong, they will often appear to people as memes, to skill check the christcucks and jew worshippers. when youre a pagan, youre not deceived by such simple things. youve seen too much and know jews whole operation is themed in the inverse. christcucks are fooled by their senses. any 'demon' could appear to them in a white light and lead them straight to their destruction if they wanted to.

>>41280917 (OP)
When in Rome, remember that anything a pagan can spirit a christian can spirit better.

>>41281719
they push the (((neo)))-paganism
kosher, noahide compliant paganism
hes clearly speaking of the other kind

>>41281770
It is true that many christians are deceived by jews, looking at american politics, but in truth christianity and judaism are opposed. Most of the countries that expelled them were christian monarchies. The roman pagans would not have even crucified Jesus Christ if it weren't for the jews. It was the jews who killed him not pagans. As for paganism, depends on the kind how bad it is, but my question is why would you worship beings that needs to be bribed with libations to care about you?

>>41281838
expelled them? more like allowed them to leave with the plundered wealth of the country in tow.

>>41281838
>The roman pagans would not have even crucified Jesus Christ if it weren't for the jews.
untrue. he was crucified between two other child traffickers, if the romans had caught him, he'd have ended up in the exact same position.
>why would you worship beings that needs to be bribed with libations to care about you?
that isnt a thing, who told you that lol
jews? i bet it was jews.

It's funny how every single religion encourages following your heart or how all paths are equally valid except christcuckery.
>uhm you can do it, but you get a 20% bonus if you do the christ route

>>41281912
>It's funny how every single religion encourages following your heart
The Abrahamic religions say the opposite. The heart is fickle and not to be trusted. Follow God, because your heart will lead you to Satan.
Proverbs 28:26
>He who trusts in his own heart is a fool

Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?

>>41281949
Yeah, good luck bro.

>>41281949
>The Abrahamic religions say the opposite
Yeah that's the problem. That's why it's a majority brown religion and the white people who fw christianity are annoying faggots that can barely stand each other.

>>41281884
The usury was literally the most common reason for why they were expelled (and sometimes killed too if that is what you wanted to hear)

>>41281897
>who told you that lol
myself after i stopped being a pagan

>>41281838
Why do you worship a being that threatens you into worshipping him?

>>41281777
Checked. But, like it or not, the traditional churches (the older, the better), are the ones that provide protection against the worst of the judaic cults and psychic diseases.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/summa/2013/06/an-introduction-to-ontotheology/
https://web.archive.org/web/20200824023928/https://thoughtsintrusive.wordpress.com/2018/01/30/a-noetic-life/

>>41280917 (OP)
Lucid dream and learn from actual spirits.

>>41282260
He does not. If he was that strict he would have killed me already.

>>41282280
Oh so you could stop worshipping him, stop accepting him into your heart, and be fine? No eternal inferno realm or anything?

>>41282236
if youre pouring one out for your homie gods, you were never a pagan, you were just a confused edgy kid. pagans dont call themselves pagans, for one. if anything, we consider christians the pagans. we went from heraclitus, plato, orpheus, pythagoras, aesop, and socrates to "siri create the earth", was than upgrade or a downgrade? ergo, christians are the pagans, the uneducated backwater simpletons who believe what theyre told to believe.

hadrian killed more jews in 5 years than all of christendom did in 2000. yes the excuse was usury, but they didnt actually recover the wealth that was plundered from them. if it was recovered, it was recovered by their jewish installed jew worshipping king, who ensured their safe passage and all of those resources could be evacuated so when his son comes to power in 40 years, he can invite them back to start the process all over again, starting some manufactured crisis, taking out usurious loans from jews from among the wealth that was lost that his father ensures jews kept.

you should really work on that pattern recognition anon. jews rarely innovate, they follow the same playbook, one which they gave to you and put in every hotel room on earth complimentary, and repeat that formula over and over and over. and people like you fall for it, over and over and over. youll go your whole lifetime maybe grasping little things, but then your children are born and they reset back to where you were when your started. theres zero continuity. why? because you worship a jew. and sunday schools churn out these npcs en masse, ready to challenge for the 'Fell for it Again' Award record, uttering the same phrases word for word as the generation before them, following the same predictable patterns of behavior. youre like little time travelers, stuck 2000 years in the past. your spiritual intelligence limited and ceilinged at where jews were 2000 years ago.

>>41282325
I didn't call myself pagan, actually i was more of an Iamblichus style neoplatonist but i was performing pagan practices. I call them pagan now because i do not practice them anymore.

>christians are the pagans, the uneducated backwater simpletons who believe what theyre told to believe.
There have been many saints who have been killed for refusing to believe what they were told to believe, by rulers nonetheless.

Plato, the philosopher you admire here, had written in the Republic that if there ever was to be a perfectly moral man, then after all manner of suffering and humiliation, they would crucify him.

The wealth that the jews have to today is mostly the result of secular powers making concessions to them and heretical christians like zionist evangelicals. Modern jews are of the synagogue of Satan.

>>41281770
>demons are just what jews call gods

disagree. demons are what jews invented to cover up their sick crimes against people.

>children being abducted and raped in a village
>jews are suspected
>jews tell the christcuck priests to convince the plebs it was demons
>dumbfuck christians believe it

and the jews keep it going. if you have a keen eye, you will notice that kikes took to wearing elaborate costumes during the abduction rapes, helping prevent anyone from believing the victim when they describe the situation.

>>41282428
>(((neo)))platonist
see. told you you werent a pagan.
>Plato, the philosopher you admire here, had written in the Republic that if there ever was to be a perfectly moral man, then after all manner of suffering and humiliation, they would crucify him.
he said no such thing, but i understand your meaning. yes, they would "crucify" him, because he would be an unnatural abomination. the gods are not perfect, why would their creations be? for a perfect man to appear would supercede the power of the gods themselves. it would not only not be possible, but would be egregious and grotesque.
>The wealth that the jews have to today is mostly the result of secular powers making concessions to them and heretical christians like zionist evangelicals.
if you get your history from the bible, you would probably think that.

according to cicero, as early as 62bc Flaccus had complained that jews were hoarding the roman empire's gold and shipping it to jerusalem and had to whisper to judges individually out of fear for his life so great was the jewish influence in roman court.
https://topostext.org/work/704

think about that. before the empire even began, jews owned its coffers and courts. the wealth of sparta was ruined by Areus II, a king of a people so wealthy they hadnt needed to work for 800 years. you have no idea what wealth is. what do you think it is?land? gold? money? jewish wealth is none of those things. it is *influence*. the ability to convince people something has value, and them believing it. it is a rigged game that they play. they assign value to things which they have rigged to have a winning hand, and convince you that is the thing which should be valued. and what does this yield? it deducts TIME. so the wealth of jews isnt 6bn dollars, its 6bn people recreating the opening scene of office space every day, like ants in an antfarm. that is their wealth. the illusion, the performance, and the machinizations. for so long as it exists, they reign supreme.

>>41282986
>he said no such thing
"The just man will have to endure the lash, the rack, chains, the branding-iron in his eyes, and finally, after every extremity of suffering, he will be crucified, and so will learn his lesson that not to be just, but to seem just, is what we ought to desire." - Rep. 2.361e–362a

>because he would be an unnatural abomination. the gods are not perfect, why would their creations be? for a perfect man to appear would supercede the power of the gods themselves.
Because Jesus Christ was not a creation of gods, but God himself having become man, and yes his power has superceded the power of the gods, who lie dead and defeated beneath his feet.

>you have no idea what wealth is. what do you think it is?land? gold? money? jewish wealth is none of those things. it is *influence*.
I am well aware of the influence of the jews, their greatest feat is their ethnic hegemony.

"If, then, the Jews fail to know the Father, if they crucified the Son, if they thrust off the help of the Spirit, who should not make bold to declare plainly that the synagogue is a dwelling of demons? God is not worshipped there. Heaven forbid! From now on it remains a place of idolatry. But still some people pay it honor as a holy place." - St. John Chrysostom

>>41280917 (OP)
>spiritual community
Like, a bunch of rich hippy pieces of shit? Fuck that. I much rather talk bible with my elders

>>41281770
Its true that your very american, very jewsucking american intelligence agencies, through hollywood and all, have managed to infiltrate the preaching effort or create their own evangelical jew slave "christians"
But anyone who can read a bible wont be fooled by them
Sadly only a few can read it seems

>>41280917 (OP)
>underground
lol lmao
It's XXI Century a postchristian world, witchy and paganish groups in North America are as open as they wanted to be 3 centuries ago
You will probably not like them and most of them will be brown or asian but they're out there.

>>41283355
i doubt plato used the word crucified or would have known what that was. apologist translation maybe.
but our gods are still here, definitely not dead, since they speak to us all the time. while christians pray to eternal silence, just like the jews who you chose to become spiritually dependent on. no surprise there. have your statues, we dont need them. they were for normies, to better facilitate conceptual understandings of gods and their myths.

we had Janus, with two faces. one facing backwards, one facing forwards. npcs cant tell which is which.

>>41283389
everyone who reads the bible wants to join the israelite mission of world conquest, conquering all the nations, enslaving its people, a global empire lead by a jewish king. the only thing they disagree on is the name of the jew who gets to lorde over everybody and tell them what to do.

and you wont see some one read like Rev. 9 and say waaaaaait a sec and do a double take and ask themself: "wait... these are supposed to be the GOOD guys?", if they do, they resume delusions theyre one of the 144,000 TRUE Israelites (along with everyone they know) and it'll be fiiiiinnnnneeee.

when its not fine, and its just jews using christians as their synagogue of satan, who is ensured to fall on his own sword so jews can win. jewish things are jewish, obviously, and it never made sense a pedo rabbi being betrayed by jews made him hate them more than gentiles, people who apparently only even exist to serve jews, according to the torah he so fanatically subscribed to throughout his whole life.

>>41283769
>i doubt plato used the word crucified or would have known what that was
Cruxifixion was quite common in the ancient times so it is likely he did know about it. Alexander the Great had crucified thousands of people too.

>definitely not dead, since they speak to us all the time.
Not all that speaks is alive.

>>41284613
the difference between platonism and abrahamism