Thread 41304013

Been thinking of reading this. Just found out it's 1000+ pages long. Is there anything in it besides lore that is easily deboonked by basedence and logic?

>>41304013 (OP)
>basedence
Lmao that’s a new one. You’re trying too hard jew bro.

>>41304019
Blavatsky herself claimed that Theosophy combines science and religion. So what's wrong with scrutinising her work from a scientific lens?

>>41304013 (OP)
>>41304033
Sounds like you should just read it and find out kek
If after 50 pages you don't see anything good, check the table of contents if it has one and skim the rest. If still nothing good, then just drop it
What, are you out there actually paying money for books in the current year?

>>41304033
That’s not what you’re doing kike.

Thousands and thousands of books of spirituality won't do for you what 10 - 30 min. of daily meditation will do.

Blavatsky is a theoricist, if you wnat true occultism, read Franz Bardon's Initiation into hermetics and, above all things, PRACTICE the steps one by one.

>>41304200
What powers have you gained?

>>41304211
I've get to step VIII of that pic, got 90% of the powers that shows in that scale. Abandoned occultism eventually, because step VI literally toss you into the void of the universe and makes you see that your ego is just a projection, an ice cube inside an infinite ocean. Power and knowledge lost their purpose to me.

This is just eh 1st book of Bardon, there are other 2 into material realm that far surpasses the powers cointained in the first one.
If you want knowledge and power, it's a sure path to sucess, if you have discipline and patience.

>>41304241
So you can contact the dead and make pictures animated through magic?

>>41304255
Psychography is very easy to do, if you do the steps correctly and without jumping carelessly.
Also, you can project your own perception into animals, objects and another people.
If I remember well, psychography (making the spirits contact you through writing) is learned in Step VI or VII.

it's no different to evola's "traditionalism", same vein of proto new age parrenialism

>>41304013 (OP)
its an interesting book but its one of the harder to understand books in metaphysics. its long too as you mention. i wouldnt recommend to everyone. read Manly Palmer Hall "secret teachings of all ages" if you want an introduction to the occult symbols, ra or seth material for more modern introduction to these concepts, edgar cayce, rudolf steiner and especially Dolores Cannon are entry level for the concepts HPB talks about in this book
she uses books and teachings shes learned with channeled information from "the great white brotherhood"

>>41304013 (OP)
anyone who channels a white brotherhood is racist anon

>>41304013 (OP)
>found
There are abridged versions, start there.

>>41304019
>being this new
It's a word filter. OP wanted to write s o y ence because he's a retard using corny 10 year old /pol/ memes

>>41306673
https://archive.org/details/abridgementofsec00eliz
Here's one version as well as a summary of the book. It's probably good to be familiar with the book just because of its influence on future spiritual movements from New Age hippy bs to Esoteric Aryanism. My read on it is she was definitely on to something but wasn't the best at communicating it (English was like her 4th language) and was unnecessarily antagonist to Western society which sullied the message. In Isis Unveiled she paints India as some paradise where everyone just levitates around doing Kundalini yoga and telepathically talking to animals instead of... you know... being India. Apparently based on her writings the Ahnernerbe visited Tibet hoping to find a hidden enclave of Aryan supermen only to find a bunch of alcoholic monks with vd from local prostitutes lmao.
https://youtu.be/elsMGHecld8

Levitation doesnt work, the guys in india that "levitate" are using sticks that their robes hide.
Pk doesnt work.
Theres allegedly a chi master who can light paper on fire w his hands, but you can also just buy a lighter. Its also quite likely he is also using a lighter and its just sleight of hand.
Theres a good reason no one can prove any of these alleged paranormal abilities work, its 99.9% frauds.
>>41304255
Uhh you can just make animated pictures that actually work consistently using a camera, or ai.

>>41304013 (OP)
This bitch is retarded and Guenon knew it

Yesterday i started reading the volume 4. Got it on some second hand
Just read chapter one and i liked it. Went in ready to hate but was surprised. Of course she speaks like all occultists of her time talking about initiations and traditions but i was surprised to find her views allign with mine so far. So we'll see
>>41307370
Guenon is retarded

>>41307447
Why say that

She encouraged Steiner so she’s cool with me

>>41307453
Why not?

>>41304033
You're conflating Science with "science". In Blavatsky's time everything was described as a science.

>>41309377
No it wasn’t.
Farming was not called a science.
Literature was not called a science.
>Uhh you can just make animated pictures that actually work consistently using a camera, or ai.
So you are saying that AI is better than wasting time becoming a level VII hermetic master like >>41304241

>>41308548
This is exactly why she's trash though. Guenon correctly pointed out that she was the start of the new-age "spirituality" slop. Guenon also died in like 1951, so he didn't even live to see it get truly crazy. Steiner is just another new-age nothingburger who never really says anything. There was a huge fascination with a new-age form of Buddhism among even intellectual giants like Schopenhauer. Hermann Hesse's books are soaked in it as well. It is all garbage that never really makes any sort of declaration about anything, and can be boiled down to "it's all like relative maaaan".

>>41309902
Like, That’s just your option, dude.
You have to open your mind to the astral realms.

I made it through The Secret Doctrine and Isis Unveiled, but I feel like largely it was a waste of time. Blavatsky says a bunch of shit in it, obviously, but most of it is shit she misunderstood from Eastern traditions mixed with shit she is just probably just making up because she never cites any sources or credits anyone properly for any of her outlandish ideas.

It was a slog, and honestly pretty boring. There are audiobooks of it on youtube, go skip around some and see if you hear anything of interest to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg8_eXgPX_k&list=PLQuu3tcfVdSVO_W5FCe8NQVa6lK4pxrFQ

I think I also may have been a bit bored by it because I was already familiar with all of the ideas she was laying out, from having read many other similar and related texts, like a lot of Rudolf Steiner.

>>41309915
kek'd