Thread 41309060

Welcome to Oneirosophy General. Oneirosophy means "dream wisdom".

# The ideas:
>Every single one of us live in their own reality. Your world is your private dream.
>What you truly are is an "open space of awareness" in which experiences arise.
>Reality is idealistic (Idealism: All of waking reality is a mental structure, a dreamed reality).
>As you progress on your path, trough techniques, knowledge and understanding of the subjective experience, you increase further lucidity (Lucidity: A state similar to gnosis or satori where one regains consciousness of the illusory nature of waking reality, just as one becomes lucid in a dream).
>An open mind combined with healthy caution is the correct mindset for all approaches targeted at the subjective experience. Never believe something without personal evidence; never dismiss something without personal evidence.

# Main Sources:
- DimensionalJumping Index
https://old.reddit.com/r/DimensionalJumping/comments/38c3yk/how_to_jump_between_dimensions/
- Original Forum
https://old.reddit.com/r/Oneirosophy/

# Oneirosophy Archive:
Repos: https://pastebin.com/NZ17CvP0
Mirror 1: https://mega.nz/file/2AQ1wCZD#jr0dRzFzy285uKYww5z659ozHY4BW0XtwT1zFJmgauA
Mirror 2: https://www.mediafire.com/file/h1xjm76wvarnnsf/Oneirosophy_Codex.zip/file

# For beginners:
- "Just decide" Exercise
https://old.reddit.com/r/Oneirosophy/comments/2hesk3/just_decide/
- "Feeling Out" Exercise
https://old.reddit.com/r/DimensionalJumping/comments/64pbc2/convince_me/dg8zvfc/
- "Daily Releasing" Exercise
https://old.reddit.com/r/Oneirosophy/comments/3vxazx/so_i_just_watched_a_video_that_i_think_you_all/cxvqv5i/

>Thread theme
https://youtu.be/eIhKNZIKTBM

>>41309060 (OP)
https://old.reddit.com/r/DimensionalJumping/comments/3h2yxo/the_act_is_the_fact_part_one_an_exercise

Wow I'm glad this general is back. Gonna do my part here to keep it rolling. So I began with NG and recently read JP's Advanced Financial Gain 1 and 2. I had tried before but it didn't make sense, now it did however. As if the meaning was "decrypted" for me to understand, it was finally the right time I suppose. Quite honestly I resonate with this (and a few related posts I read) more. I will study further, as I'm understanding it, this isn't as much about techniques ir belief as it is about self knowledge and will / intent (decide). Any of you guys have advice on applying? And how that actually looks like?

>>41309231
Oneirosophy is actually pretty simple. You just accept that your life is a dream, and design your life, actions and choices towards that, while pedaling perception integrating the metaphor.
>this isn't as much about techniques ir belief as it is about self knowledge and will / intent (decide).
I agree on this. Generally speaking, strong self knowledge and will = greater results

>>41309060 (OP)
you know what I would like to see more discussion of in the oneironautics space?

>sleep deprivation prep techniques
>EMF isolated dreaming (eid is the technical term)
>concurrent eid
>shared eid
>fmri dream capture

each of these refer to established practices which are well within the budget of the average individual, in addition to application of techniques which are essentially free. hell, an eid helmet can be made from stainless steel scubber pads, 2 oversised beanies, a needle and some cheap thread with an optional foil isolation layer. just setting up that alone causes noticeable increases in dream interactivity and visual acuity during the rem stage.

and for some reason, no one is out there using typical, established, and effective methods to induce lucid remote viewing capability just by staying awake for a few days and sleeping with a beanie which has some fluffed up metal to block stray EM noise. beyond that, it is not only super cheap, but super easy to make a shared dream tube using some pillow cases and the same approach for the beanie.

wait until you all find out that using off the shelf skin contact coil probes inside that emf helmet can record dreams just about as well as Dr. Jack Gallant's setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIi01hHlUrA

it's like no one wants to *actually* do any oneironautics. how about we just get some decent tools and procedures setup, then you guys will figure out how to record and share your dream videos by extracting them from your brainwaves, like everyone else involved in this tech does.

sheeeeeeesh, you guys.

The issue I'm facing with Oneism is that I don't want to use it for some simple change, like I don't want to be me but richer. I want to jump to a reality that's insanely different then this one not just a bit. I'm trying me best with my command exercises you learn from the UL series and only have done it for maybe a week or so. Its just so hard when you wake up each day still stuck in the place you don't want to be. And I don't want any temporary fix change over, I want it to be a permanent thing.
Any tips?

>>41309476
One of the resources in the codex is a lucid dreaming manual. It has sections for the basics to dream yoga and using dream magick. Maybe you could give it a shot and try to create a persistent realm.

I want to manifest my exact body like it was in 2017 before I got health issues and lost some teeth. Anyone with UL manifested new body like this? I need conviction to start manifesting this kind of thing instead of setting for breadcrumbs like even perfect health, it wont restore my teeth and other stuff back.

>>41309934
i once read this old ahh 94 year old started regrowing her wisdom teeth. pretty cool stuff.

Reminder

Ok so you guys believe each has a local instance copy of some shared game map which us dreamers have all downloaded?

And as we use our powers within our private dream copies of the map, it desyncs more?

>>41310723
>shared game map

>>41309347

>shared eid

>>41309060 (OP)
Nice I've been on the lookout for this to pop up again.

Also here's the stuff by Cusp linked in one of the previous threads that I've been going through. I think they're worthwhile.
https://rentry.org/4ovkzccw
https://rentry.org/ynt5biqt

I nearly got lucid in my dreams last night. Closer that I've ever been.

>>41311362
Never found his posts from Occult corps, such a shame, Cusp was a legend, way ahead of the time.

>>41311362
Btw Cusp is included in the DreamViews Complete Manual too, at the end.

>>41309347
>Doesn't realize reality is a dream.

How are we communicating if we are all in our own private dreams?

>>41311458
From a private dream to another. We're all part of God's song.

>>41311458
because you're communicating with instances of yourself from your own dream, Anon.
It's all in le head, you just don't really know how big le head is :)

>>41311530
This! :D so much le this! It's all in good fun

>>41310723
You could read some theories like QBism or whatever premise about private worlds you could find, although it's all metaphoric in the end. The thing is, if you commit to the idea of truly having the experience of it all being your own dream and the experience behave as such, considering that's the all inclusive metaphor that pervades all experience there is and could be, then that's the primordial highest truth of it all. It pretty much explains "everything".

Didn't expect this to be back, good to see you all.

I found out that the oneirosophy project had a thread in another image board. Just in case 4chan gets funny with me with mentioning the site, i would try to spell it and you just have to put together the url accordingly: eight chan dot moe slash fringe

Considering that this board get an incredible amount of junk traffic, i suggest to anyone interested in taking things slow and yet don't want to worry about seeing the thread for discussion die of inactivity to go there instead. So anons can study and discuss it with a comfortable pace. /x/ isn't made for this, and it's pretty clear now, and it's tiring having to dump just for the sake to keep this afloat. Thanks for everyone keeping things here, but i think it's just not suited for it.

>>41311458
Are you talking to someone else? Using JP's analogy, I'll treat fundamental reality (source) as a flat line. One of the line's properties is to bend into waves. Line "does" this to experience itself. The perceiver, the experience, and the act of perceiving are all waves. You are a wave. Your physical body, thoughts, personality, and memories are all waves. So is everyone and everything else in your experience. However, wave is not separate from line. Thus wave (you) have the properties of line. That includes the ability to bend line into whatever wave you want. This is true for any wave, including me. We can each bend each other's waves without contradiction due to the boundary-less nature of line.

>>41314695
thank you for the write up. I get what you mean.

Other then the UL series, what would you recommend is the another good thing to read?

>>41309060 (OP)
>Never believe something without personal evidence

Ok. How does anyone know that we are living in our own reality ? Why wouldn't solipsism be true. Why wouldn't I be a brain in a vat ? Or surrounded by bots ?

And at the same tile, how do I know ? I talked about it with a friend and he plain asked me "Do you believe I'm a bot" ? I got bad telling him that, kinda yes. But in the end, the correct answer should be that I don't know. So how do you know ???

Who made this ? I did ? Why ? Then what am "I" ?

>>41317318
The rest of the codex, so the TG Compendium and the Dream Views thing. Besides that: You read whatever you want. You start before reading anything accepting from the onset that this universe is your dream, that everything in experience is your imagination, and acting on that, logically sorting how that would work. That's a pretty a rough around the edges, but at least, serviceable basic understanding of it. What set the Codex apart from everything else is that the sources doesn't waste your time and tell you the truth right away, so anything else you could read is just your personal flavor for your dream world. Manifestation/Magic is a deeply personal art, you just have to know the facts and decide for yourself to have fun experimenting with it, because if you knew and acted on the greater truth, it all would be comfortable and effortless.

Phew, almost went rambling a bit at the end there...

>>41317425
>How does anyone know that we are living in our own reality ?
Close examination to life, the world, and your own experience. Experimentation as well.
>And at the same tile, how do I know ?
See above.
> I talked about it with a friend and he plain asked me "Do you believe I'm a bot" ? I got bad telling him that, kinda yes. But in the end, the correct answer should be that I don't know. So how do you know ???
Notice the difference between what's going on outside of you and inside of you. If you apply the dream metaphor to repattern the experience, the world behave as such. From your perspective the others follow your lead all the time, even if you accept that is not like that using the same mechanism to have the experience that is not [1]. But you have to change from a state to other to be able to live it, go all the way with all that implies.
>Who made this ? I did ? Why ? Then what am "I" ?
You are consciousness experiencing a world. You drive your reality by intent and presence. You technically "did it" as you came across to the information on this particular time for whatever reason because of all choices you have made so far (This is the original, practical definition of Karma). You do create everything because creation is a more far reaching thing that it's usually implied. As for the rest of your questions, is more adecuate to answer them yourself because in fact, only you can.

[1] To extrapolate on your friend, notice how "You" are the only person that can experience anything. You never "know" concretely what is happening inside a person. But you conclude how a person is based on your previous assumptions about human behaviour and so: You imagine something and it comes true accepting that it's true. Other people, from your point of view, are entirely imaginary.

>As for the rest of your questions, is more adecuate to answer them yourself because in fact, only you can.

but you are myself, so I'll use you ;)

(cheekiness aside, thanks for taking your time for this)


So everything that happens is, more or less, planned ? It makes "sense" that I found this info AT THAT time, have to dig more around the theme, but it could be helpful, definitely.

In your singular experience, could you tell me how "helpful" both in 3D and 4D matters to have such a world view ?

>>41317707
Forgot the (you)

>>41309476
>I don't want simple change, I want a reality that's insanely different
In such cases, can't we do several smaller jumps instead of a difficult too big jump? My idea is that we can't go two thousand miles on bicycle in one ride, but we can go ten miles per day and eventually reach the desired place but step by step.

>>41317984
I try to think that way but the way I see it is that if I'm effortlessly making a small thing happen, then there shouldn't really be any extra effort or skill or anything required to do the big thing. I feel like small things are just compromises and I'm just choosing to do that as an excuse to justify why I can't do something big.

>>41309934
Several anons in other threads claimed success at "fixing" their body, I remember for example one saying he had a skull asymmetry and when he woke up his skull was now perfect, a few others claimed to have fixed their hair line. I don't know how they did it and I'm not sure if it was UL or another type of manifesting though, but at least it seems possible.

>>41317799
>but you are myself, so I'll use you ;)
Ah, good idea, how could have i thought? :-DD
>So everything that happens is, more or less, planned ? It makes "sense" that I found this info AT THAT time, have to dig more around the theme, but it could be helpful, definitely.
The deterministic aspect of the universe is all about the inevitability of growing in awareness honing pattern recognition towards magic and manifestation. And also, adopting the all inclusive metaphor from the dream, the entire experiential landscape you call "the world' adapts to your intentions. Depending on the world model and identity sense you adopt, the more flexible it is (The dream, the dreamer). Those are some personal observations i have so far on the matter.
>In your singular experience, could you tell me how "helpful" both in 3D and 4D matters to have such a world view ?
For me it makes no difference, or maybe i see such concepts in a different way. To use an UL allegory, thoughts or ideas are your "spirit": Spirit voice, spirit hand, spirit eye, what you "visualize". While using intent, you intensify said "spirit thing" to bring them into experience accepting them as true and detaching from the current state to the targeted one. "Visualization" for me is not as literal as it looks for the general explanation of it, but more of: Think about something, and intent said something to happen.

>>41318020
Well, everything is possible in a dream, isn't it? You imagine something, and in theory, structurally speaking, you can do it. What you cannot do tho is stop "existing", stop having experiences, stop being conciussnes arising experiences, even if you forget your true (You). What differs oneirosophy from the rest is that you start accepting that this is a dream of yours as easily as you accept that you exists and are having experiences. Not entertaining the idea intelectually, but actually accepting it as true, as a fact, deciding that's it, and act upon it, the best you can manage.

Can I REALLY achieve even outrageously impossible, unlikely, achievements, goals ,(obtain) super-rare items, etc? For example becoming a private astronaut (space tourism)?

>>41318804
Why not, what's the boundary preventing you?

>>41318804
Anon, some random reply could tell you "Yes, le creation is le finished!!!111!", but the truth is, that whatever is possible or not, it's up to you to find out. You have to understand/know/see, personally, that everything is possible, that you can accomplish everything you can imagine, and go for it. Not trying to be dismissive, it's just how it is. "No one else besides me, all my private dream, what comes next?"

>Everything is ponserbel
Start saying it like that instead of "everything is possible"
This is a secret key I developed to increase demiurgic impedance and therefore immediate UL dominion and direction.
Try it.
Thank me later.