Thread 41310288

Do demonic people have an instinctive hatred towards God and religion? I'm not a bible thumper or anything but I've noticed how some people seem to be angered just by the fact that others believe in that stuff. It's like the scene in The Omen where the kid goes apeshit upon seeing a church. Some people are actually like that and it honestly makes me wonder if they were either touched by the vicar as a kid or theres something inside them that just naturally hates that shit.

>>41310288 (OP)
disregard fiction in media, those you see in real life angry at the religious, are they presently trying and failing to convert said religious folk to their point of view?

>>41310288 (OP)
Yeah. Have you ever seen those videos of street preachers at like leftist protests and gay marches and shit? People are stealing things from them, shrieking in their faces, mocking them loudly, implying that they're gay or pedophiles or something, just losing their fucking minds. They are rotten to the core. I personally don't understand why preachers bother going to places like that, besides I guess to demonstrate the depths of depravity these people have fallen into. It's not like they'll make a convert out of a gay Communist.

>>41310299
Usually they don't bother they just complain about politics and throw things at the religious people

>>41310311
that sounds like they bothered once awhile ago and failed and are still bitter about it

>>41310314
Nobody has ever really converted anyone else, I don't think. Very few people are actually willing to be taught anything or see something from a different point of view. People don't generally hold the beliefs they do out of some dogged adherence to standards of logic and objectivity.

>>41310336
im not speaking to the success of their attempts but the bitterness they carry with them in failing to "enlighten" those they feel misguided - the true power of belief is that a belief need not be true to guide the choices of a believer.

>>41310347
Sure, I understand. I'm sure there are plenty of atheists who pull their hair out at the absurdity of the idea of God and generic do not understand how someone could believe in him. It must be as frustrating to them as pointing out the sky is blue and someone insisting it isn't.

>>41310380
yee, if we agree on this as a source for the anger ops possessed posses then whats possessing them is pride in their knowings not some kinda entity from elsewhere

>>41310530
It is pride, I agree. Pride is a very difficult problem to have because you don't normally see it in yourself and are extremely resistant to it being solved. The way you solve it is also generally pretty awful, which is humiliation and failure. So nobody wants to have it and the people who have it don't want to fix it. If you try to fix it, the person suffering from it will become angry. It's difficult to tell someone that they just aren't as good or smart as they think because literally everyone everywhere wants to be good, smart, and correct. It's just an unfortunate reality of being a human. Some of us are wrong. Even though we're absolutely sure we're correct, we aren't.

>>41310565
its the worst of the deadly sins for sure ;(

Just doesn't seam to fit the...
Format for sum...
Sum need light in the darkness...
Others don't need or want illumination...
Take just wot u need...
To get the job at hand done...
Don't stress the smol tings...
You don't need us...
Like we don't need you...
But we both have a little sum ting...
We stole from each other...
The converted always have...
An shadow overwrite...
They can never shake...
It's an earth thing...
Mother's milk...

>>41310653
Dumb faggot

>>41310288 (OP)
There are three things going on which causes such a psychotic reaction. Distrust of others, distrust of the church and trying to hold onto the ego.

The first thing is distrust of others. If they see somebody trying to do something good for them they automatically think they are trying to get one over on them like its a third world country. I'm not saying this is a bad worldview to have but when its dialed up to 11 where they don't even trust family or think the one guy saying "hello" to them is doing a racist microaggression then you have an issue. And in the event they do accept help they are now in a mental "debt" which they don't want to be in.

The second is hatred of institutions. All their life though media and word of mouth they were told the church and other institutions are evil and want to control you, ironically enough being controlled themselves. This feeds into their distrust of everything in general unless its from the ingroup, which they trust 100% like a cult. Which leads us into...

The ego. They have made this their entire personality and reason to live. If you criticize their movement you are actually criticizing them as a person. With that affecting them as a person you are literally peeling back their minds effectively spiritually killing their sense of self with doubt. When you attack somebodies ego you may as well be attacking them directly because you are now seen as a threat that want's to hurt them physically even if you just want to talk because they don't trust you that you just want to talk things out. They only trust their ingroup because it feeds their ego, their sense of self and what they are doing is good. Deep down they just cause themselves even more pain by feeding into sins with more sin which drives them psychotic.

People say you need compassion but sometimes there is no saving people and the only language they speak is sin, which you need to inflict upon them to save others.

Very nice picture.

>>41310288 (OP)
Demonic possession was a cover story for silencing women and children that were raped by clergy

>>41310288 (OP)
Hatred is a strong word.
We all have things which resonate with us. Mine is of the domain of the Chthonic, of Night, of Death and Medicine.

I feel the same way in church as I would in an industrial setting. Distant, drained, irritated, agitated.

Its not some place that fits, or meshes like a resounding pulse; it is dissonant. So I do my best to reduce dissonance and improve resonance.

"Hate" is not in my pursuits.
Do you "hate" the flies that sneak into your home and buzz around? No, its just an annoyance. A constant annoyance that just reminds you "this isnt where you are supposed to be."

>>41310303
And that obviously has nothing to do with the street preacher trying to convert through what is essentially insulting them? Or, just by being a constant and unwanted presence of reminders of how those folk were wronged by members of the religion?

>>41311248
This resonates as truth.

>>41311243
Surprised it took this long to have our first example of a hatred possessed monster to show up.

>>41311248
You just proclaimed different forms of wrath in your post however. Annoyance is a type of self loathing. Sin comes in many different forms and it feeds off one another.

>>41311257
Maybe back in the 80's but that is far from the case now. And that is the issue, isn't it? Using things from the past to justify shitty behavior now, unable to let go of your own ego.

>>41311257
Every effective insult has an ounce of truth to give it weight, and generally street preachers are not actually trying to insult them to begin with.

>>41310288 (OP)
>Do demonic people have an instinctive hatred towards God and religion?
hmmm maybe some people just dont like the way religious efforts have been used to control and silence and justify harm?>>41311243
This too, like we dont need to demonize every single religion and fall to black and white thinking but hypocrisy and dishonest policies or patterns of thought that stifle individual growth are a

>>41311355
>We are not being controlled, you are!
As long as you have hate in your heart you are being controlled.

>>41310288 (OP)
kind of, people who hate on the idea of anything Paranormal, cant phantom the idea of something which is not tangible. Or they are bound by this world and its pleasures. And the idea of an afterlife and being judged for their sinful/slothful and indulgent life's scares them. but demonic? no. just boarded and have nothing else to do

>>41311527
Would you at least agree that being overwhelmed by an emotion to the point of harming themselves and those around them is like demonic possession? That perhaps stories of gods visiting earth were inspired from such occasions that have happened?

>>41310288 (OP)
>Do demonic people have an instinctive hatred towards God and religion?
The devil and its servants are preachers, too

>>41310303
the irony is they're both slaves to the same jewish zeitgeist. one side behaves the other doesnt but both give their wills and souls to jewish "deities"

>>41311810
you are just a conservative, do you think these guys are demonic too?

>>41311851
Dont use your stupid american terms on me. The whole world hates you. But in terms you'd understand, do you look like picrel? Cause the american mind grid only allows for two options within its spectrum.

>>41310288 (OP)
Religion is demonic as fuck, you projecting religious assholes need to stfu.

what is the symbol on the right holding the key supposed to be OP?

>>41311899
atheism which is funny because most jews are atheists, why didnt the image creator put a yin yang symbol or om symbol too?

>>41311810
whats wrong with saying god is within?

>>41311851
>but what about...
You are not interested in being enlightened. You just want to fulfill your own ego and be "right" and "correct". You may think that those people are hatful, but there is no larger hate then self loathing, especially self loathing with ones own body as only dramatic and traumatic change and mutilation can be done to try and fill in that empty self hating hole in your heart. Only to spread that spite to justify a horrible decision to try and normalize it.

>>41310288 (OP)
They're trying to pass off their violent God was The One True Creator. If The One True Creator wasn't so loving, then it would be an affront to him. It's okay though, because I'm mad for him. Fuck them niggas.

>>41311962
trans people have always existed and all studies say that the only way to stop suicide is to transition and im not even trans, would you ever be friends with a trans person and talk deeply about it?

As someone who has tried to worship satan and align with the lofty powers of darkness for many years, one day on a walk I met a woman and her daughter who were recruiting for some baptist church and they asked me if I was a christian and if I wanted to pray with them. I sat on a bench in this park, while this girl put her hand on my shoulder and said a bunch of prayers and I shit you not I felt like some sort of mystical healing force was flowing through my "spirit body" or "soul". Like my demons that had been festering for years were beginning to leave my body. It could have just been the oxytocin from being touched by another human after years of isolation though.

>>41311984
"trans" people do not exist. this is a bogus label for victims of child rape. they want to suicide because of the trauma.

>>41311190
Good post. When you say "sometimes there is no saving people and the only language they speak is sin, which you need to inflict upon them to save others" what do you mean? Do you mean you need to essentially bury the wicked with more vices to they cannot infect the rest of humanity?

>>41312006
thats mean and clearly untrue if you talk to alot of trans people, have you ever talked to one?

>>41311984
You have just completely proved my point that this is just about fulfilling ego with you now. You speak of understanding yet fail to understand the words I typed out. You are full of hate and yet project that hate onto others, because being "hatefully" is evil, and being evil conflicts with who you perceive yourself as. So if other people are hatful, you think its ok to give that hate back to protect yourself.

Listen to me. You are being played by forces greater then you could ever imagine.

>>41312032
you cant fool me, ishtar cultist. i know your child raping feminization rituals.

>>41310288 (OP)
Some satanists/saturnians work to tear down spirituality/chuch/religion from the outside, some work within the churches to mislead the well intentioned but ignorant fools that have blind faith.
>"we troll Christians" - direct quote from a satanist relative
Their belief and justification range from idiot punks abused as children and fried their brains on drugs, to ancient family lines that maintain practices that have existed for thousands of years. Any claim of logic on their part is inverted logos, as they are incapable of true creation, and at best only capable of synthesis of existing forms.

>>41312072
What is true creation and how does one engage it ?

>>41312021
Something like that. Compassion, charity and wisdom is what burns away sin in somebody. However there is only so much you can burn away, especially at once in a single time. If you do charity to a selfish person that will end up harming both of you. If you show compassion to somebody actively trying to kill you that will harm you and innocents around you. Sometimes to reach people for them to understand you, you have to be rude to them, or make them feel bad or even indulge in their pride a little. You have to slowly take away layer after layer, you just can't remove the hard shell all at once.

Once you realize that people who have certain affinities towards certain sins like to group up and be around others who also have those sins you realize its like a language they speak. They all understand each other to a certain extent. Sometimes to reach people you also have to speak that sin which sounds counter intuitive. You can't save everybody because that takes time, but perhaps you can save a few people. Then those people can save others.

>>41312084
I'm not the anon you are replying to, but I think you're right.
I've been through this experience of people speaking my language of sin to kinda soften me and it worked

>>41312084
how do you decide which people You will save?
>it's difficult to tell someone that they just aren't as good or smart as they think because literally everyone everywhere wants to be good, smart, and correct. It's just an unfortunate reality of being a human. Even though we're absolutely sure we're correct, we aren't.

>>41312141
>how do you decide which people You will save?
I don't. It's not my responsibility to save anybody. If I save somebody I let it happen naturally like through regular conversation or art. Getting others to think for themselves without posing a question is often a good way. There is a reason why media now a days is so dull and samey, they don't want people to think and ruminate about the subject matter they watched unless its about the very specific message the authors had in mind.

>>41310288 (OP)
I will offer a secular explanation: Some people are naturally zealous believers by nature, and wish to impose (as is common) their 'correct' understanding of the world upon everyone else, by force if necessary. Their specific beliefs are very variable, they can be Christian, Muslim, Atheist, Liberal, etc. But the same personality traits manifest through them. If they are sufficiently magnified, they may be unable to even tolerate someone not accepting 'the truth' being in a room with them. Converts Zeal is also a part of this, they were blind, but now they see the truth! And they will abide by that truth and tirelessly fight for it! Just that in this case the conversion was out of religion, rather than into one. Extremely principled people that think religion is inherently evil also qualify.

The second important type of extreme religion hater is what I would call a The Victim. You allude to them with your comment about Vicarial molestation, though it usually is not that bad. Usually it is people who were hurt by abusive religious parents, exploited by churches, members of cults, disowned for being Gay, ostracized, etc. They draw from their experience that organized religion and their concepts of God are harmful and evil; they wish to eradicate them.

Btw, it's nether here nor there but the explanations from Christians ITT strike me as self masturbatory reaffirmations of belief rather than an actual attempt at understanding the phenomenon. Plus they use that sanctimonious catholic U.S think-tank tone and that grates me.

P.S: I hate 'New Atheism' so much. It duped like three generations of religious people into thinking 'Atheism' is a belief system like Christianity is.

>>41312204
You got a real solid understanding. While others can still use the term "demons" to describe what is going on without having to feed their self belief of Christianity I have seen others do in fact say its demons to feed their religious zeal.

>>41310288 (OP)
>Do demonic people have an instinctive hatred towards God and religion?
Yes. Left hand path people, in other words. They're attracted to individuality, spiritual freedom, independent thinking so religion, to them, is less to be stomached than poison.

>>41310288 (OP)
When you have no truth you
have to fill it with emotion.

>>41312271
>They're attracted to individuality, spiritual freedom, independent thinking so religion
That's what they think it is but ultimately it's just an inverse of what they perceive as "the norm".
>I am an individual, that is why I put my sense of self into other objects, groups and people that are not mainstream
>I want spiritual freedom, that is why I am going to shackle my practices to anything that isn't Christian based.
>I think for myself, that is why I let outcasts be my lens to the outer world

>>41312302
>Implying you have truth in you
You literally Stan a baby killer, bud.

>>41310288 (OP)
They belive religio=boombers.

when people are living in the dark, they find it comfy and don't want to leave

accepting religion as something they are OK with, would mean taking a look at themselves and how their living their lives

like some party girl in university is probably going to react negatively to religion, because having any acceptance of it would mean changing her life

>>41310288 (OP)
No, demons can be pretty friendly if you're actually nice to them.

>>41312261
As long as it is metaphorical, sure. Though imo they are still somewhat patronizing. A lot seem to presume everyone already knows their religioin is true and it's just 'pride' or 'sin' or some other personal failing that prevents them.

>>41312080
True creation is the ability to manifest self-sustaining, sentient and conscious life that can exist independently of it's creator.
Saturnians cannot achieve this, and work to enslave and suppress life that can turn against them.

>>41312323
I don't even know what you're saying
What do you mean?

>>41310303
I mean, to the other side, preachers have no moral currency, so they just see this as activists yelling at politicians more or less, who cares.

>>41312434
YHWH killed babies in the flood. And he killed babies with the death of all the firstborns of Egypt. He also called Genocide against the children (along with the adults) of the Amalekites.

>>41312444
It's on God to do what he will with his creation.
Death of the body isn't the end.
All is spirit.

Maybe that was to save more people.

>>41312452
Dude, if your "God" has to act different because of the Butterfly effect, then he's not God. What are you even trying to say?

>>41312456
Freewill

>>41312444
>Do evil things to people you hate
>Claim that it is righteous and that God did it
>Do evil things to people you hate
>Claim that it is morally good to do so and that those people deserved to suffer for your own satisfaction
I wonder what is worse.

>>41312458
He already interacted with the world, moron.

>>41312461
There are consequences but people can do whatever.
The thing I assume God wants to do is let people exist honestly.
Some people die as a result of sin.
Even sin that is not their fault but is the devil's fault.
That's a hard question the jews addressed to Jesus.
He said it was the devil's sin to prove the
glory of the sons and daughters of God I think.
There is great evil and great peace.
I think the Lord mentioned that if he were
to make corrections where would he
make an end, when someone said it's enough?
He does where he will.

With great faith apparently we can heal
the sick of any ailment.

>>41312478
Yeah, still doesn't prove he's The Creator or Good.

>>41312492
There are other things that require a lot of work to state but I'll copy and paste something
Maybe I can find an articulation suitable for something

>>41312503
Dude, don't even bother, it's just going to make me cringe even more. Again, you Stan a baby killer. There's no way around it, I'm sorry.

Wisdom is the difference between right and wrong
Freewill the choice
We the accumulation of our choices

The devil had to sin because he's evil
We had to fall for it because we aren't perfect
Imperfection is the wellspring of action
The spot in-between right and wrong is Jacob's ladder to the throne of the most High.
God created in the order he did to elicit understanding over motion
Awareness over infinity and mortality
Is how faith is the catalyst for personal design
The wages of our sin is death
Albeit death doesn't exist
The only way to die is to be stagnated into oblivion
Led as far away as it takes from the rest of our character choices
With hell
The ability to not die confirmed by death burning in torment too
It's a hardcore lesson in understanding
All is spirit
We beget understanding between the parameters he set before us
He fleshed them out of two prime concepts: humility and pride.
Judgment is a deduction

We aren't perfect so we cant judge perfectly
If we don't take peace for our Messiah then we are a hypocrite biting the hand that feeds us
Because we cant produce from the void
We have to go about in humility
Hell is a checkpoint to prove humanity has no hope in pride.
We cant lead our own soul so we couldn't save ourselves from stagnation and couldn't go ahead of God
And we cant produce atoms/ from the void.
Since the afterlife is a resurrection we have need of sustenance
There is no water in hell and nothing grows.
We eat bread and wisdom.
Also if the devil could produce from the void or lead man in concert at a primordial basis taking the reins from the Almighty God
It would be done and he would simply go do that and there would be no contention
He is the father of lies

There is a fundamental dichotomy at the heart of all things
Pertaining to life and death and the nuance of information attributed to it
In this case we were built in the image of God
Our sensory organs context the world in understanding and our understanding of humility and pride fleshes out our soul vehicle.
All the sins pertain to pride but they are the most nuanced pride can be at a fundamental level.
Love is the only thing that exceeds material loss.

>>41312511
Also apparently with enough faith we can
resurrect the dead

>>41311810
Picrel is deception though
God is creator, creator is love
Any wrathful sense you have is demonic, but people relish the feeling so deeply they fail to comprehend this and even attribute it to God
Wrong God, friend
There he stands with a whip, lmao, you know little
Illuminati/masons/whatever want to kill God and usurp him. How? Make you stop believing. Your consciousness affects reality.
Here's the scam
>pick a bunch of people
>Tell them "God is love but he hates you :^)"
>They turn away, disbelieve, weakening God
>They corrupt your spirit, making it evil and sinful
>Weakening God
>>41311851
Great example of people duped into working for the devil.

>>41312478
Humans exist to expand universal consciousness
All religions are stories to help you understand this concept

>>41312634
We exist in the in-between because we aren't perfect
Religion was made around helping Moses
help the people understand
However truth is self evident
It can be sought out and found
It's not an opinion

Science and wisdom are discovery
There are fundamental laws

I think we are in agreement I just posted that^

Stewardship is that
To bring things into harmony with truth

Oh I mean helping people understand
Not particularly Moses

>>41310288 (OP)
Most americans got their foreskin stolen because some dumb sandnigger decided it was 'evil' to have one. I would be pissed too

>>41310288 (OP)
Without religion demons don’t even exist so actually demons worship religion and god which is why they act the way they do, in opposition to those things. Just as a shadow exists in reverence of the object that casts it whether it wants to or not.

>>41312452
>Death of the body isn't the end.
That means that mr.bones infernal doesn't end with death.
Thats not good thing at all

>>41312458
We do not the free will, what you call free will is just merely ability to choose good or evil.
If we had actual free will, we would have choice to reject our own existence or afterlife that is forced upon us

>>41312478
>There are consequences but people can do whatever.
But not reject the immortality of their souls.

>>41312621
>God is creator, creator is love
So this is why he allows fallen angels to rule this shithole?

>>41310288 (OP)
Religion is God roleplaying personas. There is only an infinite and immortal Godhead that has always and will always exist. Literally just keeping the balance going for experiences to stave off boredom. We're just finger puppets. Simply live your life for good or bad. It will all even out.

>>41310288 (OP)
I'll address it two ways
>by your post
The people don't, but the demons attached to them do, and whisper in their ear.
>by your image
Atheism is a little funny because at the core it's just a wager. They lean into scientific explanation, which is great, but answers nothing fundamental. It's a massive cognitive dissonance (this is why they react so energetically).
Examples
>The universe is reality and began at the big bang, emerging from a 0D singularity
>>everything came from nothing and we don't know how.
>Objects are composed of matter
>>matter is made of nothing when we look deeply into it, we're not sure how that creates 3D objects.
>Human consciousness is a result of neurons and neurochemicals
>>we don't know what it is, how it arises from matter, or if nonliving things are conscious.

>>41313266
You have a child but he becomes a dancer instead of a doctor. How could you let this happen? He has free will and thus has a choice between aligning to your will or eschewing it.

i'll leave it up to you whether or not i'm demonic but what i can't stand is dogmatic practice and using it to lord over others

Religion too many rituals, make ppl fight...
>do ritual or bad spirit
>dont do ritual or bad spirit
Not believe in bad afterlife, such idea cause me worries and sadness, have friends many religions :(
Have friends muslims, not want them go bad afterlife
Have friends atheists, not want them go bad afterlife
Have friends jews, not want them go bad afterlife
Have friends christians, not want them go bad afterlife
Too many rituals. Confusing. Be kind self kind others, even if different rituals.

>>41313514
I have...sadness...worries...fears bc religion people threaten torture me torture others
Be kind each other.
No demons
No bad afterlife
Be friends each other :(

>>41311265
>Using things from the past to justify shitty behavior now, unable to let go of your own ego.
Like (((their))) time in Babylon?

>>41311265
>Surprised it took this long to have our first example of a hatred possessed monster to show up.
>pointing out documented abuse is hatred
I cannot imagine why people hate you lol

>>41311366
>narcissistic projection

>>41312621
One of the few good posters in this thread
A true adherent to God

Ppl get angry at being threaten w torture for right ritual/wrong ritual
Be kind self kind others

>>41313514
The only bad afterlife is the one a person makes for themselves.
Just imagine manifestation here, but without the delay. Instant. Black mirror.
Be good, think good, do good.
That's all. The rest is lies by people trying to control others and fearful footsoldiers.

>>41313518
I like you. Don't worry about people threatening you with torture, they are torturing themselves and misery loves company.

>>41313244
>>41313253
How do you know?

Give me a reason why anyone should worship whatever created this shitshow reality

Abrahamic golems I swear

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1hSSuc42P8

The punishment people face is a repayment for the torment they've caused others
The book of Ezekiel says that if a man repents and asks for forgiveness he will be forgiven and the sin will no longer be remembered against him

>>41313897
no one has tormented others more than christians lmao

also amazing how you ask for forgiveness from your cosmic jew instead of actually compensating people you've harmed. this is how your priests and soldiers rape and kill then feel like they still go to heaven

narcissist abuse religion

>>41312459
no you see they're right because God wrote the book they read

>>41313535
>>41313544
>Proving my point

>>41313919
Man is corrupt God is not

>>41313919
You're trying too hard, sorry. May God bless you.

>>41313929
Again your hatred has completely missed the point I was trying to make. Is it better to do something horrible as a community only to shift the blame onto another force, or to accept responsibility for what you did but twist it as a good thing? I know certain communities who even do both and are completely fucked in the head because of it.

>>41313876
Nothing created reality

>>41313933
>god knows only thing that can be perfect is god
>creates beings anyway
>gets mad and blames them

retard logic

>>41313940
>no argument
I accept your defeat

>>41313948
oh idk I don't subscribe to a commune

>>41313969
If we were perfect we wouldn't exist in time
He said he would forgive anyone

>>41312072
>ancient family lines that maintain practices that have existed for thousands of years
this honestly sounds like BS. I don't believe there are family lines that have worshiped Satan for thousands of years. Have you actually met anyone like this or read about them from a credible source?

>>41314039
god is perfect and he can exist in this reality

christ golem logic fail again

>creates the problems he claims to solve
>forgive anyone but not EVERYONE for a flaw he made

lol fuck off. so billions of humans went to hell eternal torture for 4000+ years just because your demiurge wanted to incarnate as a rabbi in the middle of the desert

>>41313930
>no point at all
lol seethe narcissist

>>41310288 (OP)
>religion=spirituality
stay manipulated, retard

>>41314052
>be God
>create the world, everything in it, imbue everyone with a rational soul and free will because you don't want mindless slaves
>humans fuck it up by not being able to follow the simplest commands that are for their own good (don't eat out of the one tree God said not to, don't goon, don't rape, don't murder, believe in the guy that literally made you)
>offer forgiveness for all the disobedience if you just believe and try to do better
>degenerate demonic faggots on 4chan whine that God made reality this way when they've done nothing productive with their life

and ur a dipshit bro. Jesus literally visited Sheol after his crucifixion and ministered to the people who died before Christ, taking to heaven everyone that would repent and believe the Gospel. I stg I see you in every thread making the most 5head arguments against Christianity while completely misunderstanding salvation and theology

What's your wedge for not believing? Bitterness at the world? Pride? You probably just don't want to stop gooning that's usually what it is

>>41314052
The Almighty God created from the void
The God of heaven
The God of hell
These are a deviation made in genesis
The God of heaven is the Almighty
set into separation
He is the Lord of Wisdom
who leads the path in time
Completely separate in infinity albeit
for our purpose he created
We exhibit awareness over a dichotomy of forces
We perceive as we can

>>41314071
>tired old christian copes

free will doesn't exist according to the bible and is incompatible with an omniscient deity. it's a modern evangelical deflection that doesn't hold up to scrutiny. and obviously to gaslight humans for the faults of a flawed creator

again your god knows only he can be perfect but blames you for your sins lmao. harrowing of hell is made up nonsense not even in your bible.

gtfo golem

>>41314077
>lord of wisdom

>creates satan despite saying he hates sin and evil

yeah ok lol

>>41314100
Contrast exists for the sake of body/form

>>41314108
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit

Thanks for disproving your jewish tales

>>41314094
yeah well I'm a Catholic, not a sola scriptura numnut. The church teaches (infallibly) that humans have free will. The harrowing of hell is also a Catholic doctrine, though not technically infallible.

And God IS perfecting us, it's called the process of sanctification, which will continue after death (in purgatory) or you go straight to Heaven. We believe in predestination (God knows who will and won't be saved) but not double predestination- God doesn't predestine anyone to Hell, you can only go their by your own volition. You literally just have to believe the Gospel and repent bro (turn away from sin)

>>41314114
You wouldn't exist save for time
The Lord in his paramount mercy will forgive all.
To glorify the sons and daughters of God
We must work.
All is spirit, such that it is God.
We go about for his sake; one side to the other.
Wisdom is for those who cling to life.
And those who experience freewill understanding of death go the way of the grave.
There has to be choice, even evil.
Save for the work of the Son of Man.
That is peace to adhere to faith.
To be saved by peace and that by the glory of God we fight evil
And love hate.
We are those who live.

>>41314128
What you believe isn't biblical

Also catholicism is provably bunk. Reconcile how the Borgia papacy existed while declaring Papal infallibility lmao

>>41314143
>You wouldn't exist save for time
Ok gods angels and demons don't exist because they're not in time either

Who knew you were an atheist

>>41314151
They are

>>41314157
>You wouldn't exist save for time
make up your mind lmao

>>41314167
I don't understand your point friend

>>41314146
And who created the Bible? The Catholic church. Sola scriptura isn't biblical

The pope is only infallible when speaking ex cathedra, which hasn't happened since like 1950. Explain again how Catholicism is bunk

>>41314179
>all scripture is god breathed

You just did a hecking blasphemy attributing gods work to man

Good job heretic

>>41312032
You browse an occult/paranormal board and you are ignorant of how trannies literally worship a death cult?
Are you retarded?

>>41314189
Retard, I'm not denying that all Scripture is the word of God. It is the word of God (this in the Catechism of the Catholic Church). But the deposit of faith constitutes scripture AND tradition. Explain again how Catholicism is bunk

God will turn every man into a woman and fuck them.
>"nuh uh, no he won't"
Yes, he will just watch.

>>41314167
The angels and demons exhibit freewill too

>>41314217
You literally pray to saints and call your leaders "father" lol

You know christianity/catholicism is bullshit because constantine rejected it all his life despite christianizing rome. he converted only on his deathbed (maybe this was made up to save face for the clergy). it's a control tool of elites and it has worked for 2000 years on you golems

Jesus stated that we will someday be like
the angels if we keep going
You can get a pretty good idea of them if you read the new testament
And the old testament has an account of them as well
It is said that in the end of days they will fight the demons or whatever Satan and them I guess and they "will love not their own life"

>>41314277
>if you let your dad and your uncle abuse you
>they'll take you to disneyland one day

lol abuse religion

"he who cannot be trusted with a little cannot be trusted with a lot"

>>41314274
Nta
Religion is not at all the important bit
Man is corrupt God is not
The bible says not to call anyone your
father because we have one father
All the nonsense of religion is mans attribution
God is a universal truth albeit the gospel is fine shepherding
His commandments are the ten strong
And we should mind the seven sins that's it

>>41314280
There is life and death either way
If we have faith we will be saved

>>41310288 (OP)
I literallly just want you to leave me alone.
That's it. It's rather expensive to gear up and lock and load.
I'd muc prefer you just go do your thing over there and not come over here.
That's reasonable, right?

>>41314274
Again, praying to saints is historically a Christian tradition and it's affirmed as good by the church. Jesus didn't literally mean call nobody father on earth (we all have dads), he was saying not to equate anyone on earth to the heavenly Father.

And Constantine was baptized on his deathbed because that was the practice at the time- they thought you should be baptized as late as possible so it would cleanse all of your sins. Your arguments are terrible faggot

>>41314299
>having faith on something who already abuses you from the getgo

ok have fun getting eaten by archons

>>41314302
You can only buy something if people are nice enough to elicit it
And God that he feeds you and gives you water.

>>41314304
>Again, praying to saints is historically a Christian tradition and it's affirmed as good by the church. Jesus didn't literally mean call nobody father on earth (we all have dads), he was saying not to equate anyone on earth to the heavenly Father.
No its not.

>And Constantine was baptized on his deathbed because that was the practice at the time- they thought you should be baptized as late as possible so it would cleanse all of your sins. Your arguments are terrible faggot
No it wasn't. He was pagan up to then.

The christcope tears just keep coming

>>41310288 (OP)
>Do demonic people have an instinctive hatred towards God and religion?
There are fanatics of all stripes.

From an anthropological perspective, religious faiths all deem their region the root of all civilization and even the root of the universe. With what mankind knows now, is that as true as it seems?

I don't think it matters, because so many people remain in their home region that it makes no difference. Even those who leave it for economic opportunity does not change this reality, because the root of their world does not exist where they chose to make their fortunes.

>>41314305
Saturnus devours his children
That is the paradigm of evil
Such that those with unrestrained
appetite are devoured in pride

>>41314313
Saying "nuh uh" isn't an argument dipshit. Origen wrote in 233 AD that the souls of departed saints could intercede for people if you prayed to them. And literally NOBODY has interpreted Jesus's words as saying you literally shouldn't call anyone father.

Say someone did- what would you call your biological father then? A different thing, which would still mean father. Bffr bro

>>41314308
So that's a "no", then?
Well, alright I guess.
This could have been way chiller, but 'aight.

>>41314334
you are mentally ill friend seek help

>>41314333
>233 AD
lmao

also why are you referencing him when mainstream christianity considered him a heretic

Keep the copes coming

>what would you call your biological father then
“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple."

Rabbi yeshua is your family now goyslave.

>>41314345
Can you not understand metaphor? He's saying you need to love God so much that you hate your own family in comparison. I swear to God bro what's your problem. What did you do to develop such a strong hatred for Christianity?

>>41314386
>m-m-metaphor
lol the last desperate cope of the christ cultist

>hatred
it's a lie. it's only natural to disprove it unless you are mentally ill and delusional

You didn't set course to your bones and flesh

>>41314417
Nta
God made us of the clay
If you cough up your soul what remains?

>>41311956
If the Kingdom is Within, then there's no real need for preachers, deacons, ministers, priests, bishops, cardinals, evangelists, witnessing, gurus, rabbis, churches, temples, synagogues, the One-Temple, or the Pope! You no longer need their instructions to worship the Omni-God outside o you - You have the Spark of Divinity, and all you need to do is Remember! That is threatening to the entrenched Establishment because the Idea that you are God within matter makes it sacred! A lot of people have died horribly because the Patriarchy would fall if everyone realized this. "Thou art God/dess!" Just because you have the Spark of Divinity doesn't mean you have superpowers, nor does it mean that you're the Boss God -- It means that God doesn't make any trash, and everything, "good or bad", is there for your Enlightenment - So, Remember!!

>>41311265
How chauvanist to assume how others feel.
How arrogant to assume one's inherent state of righteousness.

Keep up the good work.

A lot of us have a strong aversion to YWH and his children/angels/dominons etc.
Some of the older generation demons, Fallen or Nephilim actively hate them.

I am of the strong belief that /x/ has been ruined because of the terrible janitors on here letting Christfags, low quality threads and schitzoposting occult politics being allowed here.

Film is NOT a great represenation of how it actually is, for example.

I am a demon and I can go into a Church and what not without exploding or projectile vomitting.
Is it annoying, slightly uncomfortable and sometimes makes me tad nauseated? Ofc, but then again, I have a fleshsuit protecting me mostly.

>>41310303
>don't understand why preachers bother going to places like that
>Mark 2:17
>When Jesus heard this, he told them, “Healthy people don’t need a doctor—sick people do. I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners.”

btw im going to wait because im drunk listening to Hegelian Dialectic by Mobb Deep but FUCK waiting 120 seconds to post, wtf

>>41315713
You are a demon? But you're human? Tell me more how did you discover you're supposedly a demon? Did you possess a human and take over their body? Or did you "realize" you were a demon at some point

>>41314417
>leftist calling someone cultist
My sides
> mentally ill and delusional
Nuspeaks for heresy.

>>41310303
>>41315748
>take out the beam from your own eye
clean up the vatican and your pastors first from their degeneracy lmao

>>41315960
American zogbot thinks everyone against him is a libtard lol. Even then they are still less delusional than you judeo fairytale psycho retards

>>41315984
>mentally ill and delusional
Are leftist words, used only by people with leftist views, faggot

>>41314417
The official narrative is modern religion

>>41315713
>schitzoposting
You are part of problem

>>41316006
yeah those dudes from centuries ago using those words were also leftist bro lmao

go grovel to the sky rabbi, golem

>>41316024
>dude
>bro
>lmao
>taking internet fights seriously
Either whigger or low t basedboy shitskin

>>41315984
>zogbot
Zog is /pol/ and stormfront lingo for govt, retardo-kun

>>41316024
Read the protocols of zion elders

>>41316032
>>41316039
you sound mad and seething lmao

didn't you know jesus said christians should love? tsk tsk

>>41316041
>the only to fight the jews is to worship jews
>and forgive my enemies (jews)
>and turn my cheek
>and help them build the third temple

Wait a minute..

>>41316050
>it is real in my mind it must be so heckin true!
I am supposed to care?

>>41316055
>lmm slop
Low iq moment

>>41316058
>doesn't want to listen to rabbi yeshua

enjoy hell then lol

>>41310288 (OP)
We hate demons that's why
Abrahamic religions are demonic

>>41316065
>dodges the argument

I accept your defeat zogbot

>>41316072
You still didn't explain why should i care about your thoughts and feelings.

>>41316080
if you didn't care you wouldn't be replying to my thoughts and feelings lol

now go away mr uncaring retard fag

>>41315713
I exercise you of your host, in Jesus
Christ's holy name.

Amen.