Thread 41316494

Would the world be better if psychedelics were legal or do you support laws against what you can do to your own body?

Hallucinogen nerds seem to be gaining traction

We’d see a lot more naked freaks

>>41316494 (OP)
All drugs should be legal but especially mdma
Everyone needs a mdma trip every year or so
>>41316514
>more naked freaks
I’m cool with it

The world would be mostly the same with most just a little bit less stressed out

Considering how societies built around them tended to devolve into grotesque blood sacrifice cults, probably not

>>41316494 (OP)
Of course things would be better
>>41316967
>make more laws restricting what input in my mouth daddy
You’re pathetic and belong on reddit

>>41317262
The people who were doing them in the 60s and 70s are ruling the corporate world now, can you honestly say its been an improvement?

>>41316494 (OP)
most people are too stupid to belong in college, let alone trip.

>>41317283
It worked out well for them
Meanwhile the normies who followed immoral drug laws are on SSRI and wage slave. you made my point fucking retard

>>41317331
>most people are too stupid to take substances that grow new brain connections
Holy shit you’re retarded. Those people need psychedelics the most

I've done some research in the past and I concluded MDMA would be the first and most important step in fixing my brain
also in principle, the government should not dictate what I put in my body ever
that's all the input I can offer

What’s crazy is MDMA is one of the healthiest drugs out there and even the DEA experts recommended it not be put schedule 1. It literally helps soldiers heal from trauma the military put them through and they still refuse to legalize it. The US govt treats their own the worst. Sticks them full of jabs and then demands they don’t eat certain plants or mushrooms
Fuck ever joining a military that treats their own soldiers like dogs

>>41316494 (OP)
Making drugs illegal was a brilliant scam.
>convince idiots they should lose freedom based on chemicals they eat/smoke
>take over drug markets that now are illegal
>invest in private prison companies who take tax payers funds to lock up plant smokers, mushroom eaters, etc
Have to give credit to the CIA, DEA, etc
They figured out a free money glitch

Tripping can change your life. A good trip can cure PTSD. A bad trip can cause PTSD. I'm not enthusiastic about tech bros using psychedelics for work.

Mushrooms, regulated. Druggies should still be able to find them on the street and be able to use at their own discretion. But they should consult other druggies for advice on how to use them. They are not toys and should not be used just because you want visual hallucinations.

If you're not a druggie, you should only use psychedelics under the care of a shaman, with intent.

Synthetic psychedelics or LSD, I don't support. Intent matters a lot with the type of experience you'll get when you use psychedelics, synthetic psychedelics are often associated with more careless intent, which opens the door for more negative experiences.

>>41317658
>regulate mushrooms that randomly grow in cow shit
Are you a boomer? At what point do you people stop trying to control others lives?

>>41317658
>protect people from having a bad trip
Why not make laws to stop nightmares? A bad trip is only bad if you let it effect you that way
I’ve had trips where I traveled to the evil aliens base and they couldn’t do shit to me

>>41316494 (OP)
Hamilton is cool as fuck. I remember his first videos on vice and all the comments were about how much everyone hated his nasally voice

>>41316494 (OP)
>hamilton morris interviewed by William Pickard
https://youtu.be/fcI1xbciV98

I am against the criminalization/undue restriction of psychedelics on principle, but speaking from a safety/practical perspective, I think theres a lot more to be gained from psychedelics if administered by someone trained in both the states of consciousness achieved from their use and some type of therapy/mental health background to serve as a guide to steer things in a constructive direction and prevent freakouts in comparison with pushing their use underground, which drives people to use in less than productive environments with less than productive (if any) guides. However I am still for these substances being freely available to purchase for people who just want to party or w/e

I’m saying this as someone with countless experiences with various psychedelics not a layperson

>>41317338
And you're doing a wonderful job of demonstrating in real time how they make you evil. Good job

>>41318181
>mom someone called me dumb on 4chan, they must be evil
Grow up stupid bitch

>>41318266
Yeah,you don't get it at all if you think me labeling you evil had anything to do with what you call me. You're not a liberator of humanity you're just another tyrant astonishingly with even less self awareness than the previous pretenders to aristocracy

>>41318436
No one ever claimed everything you’re saying
No one here is trying to liberate anyone
You’re on 4chan faggot
You just make yourself look like a glowie talking like that. Especially the way you can’t help but respond to them teasing you. It’s like insults are the number 1 way to get you guys to bump something you disagree with

whoa dude..... D M T .... dude.. whoa..

>>41320986
You psychedelic hating fags are always so intelligent

>>41316520
You say that until some (bad actor) decides he will cut his mdma with meth, which is cheaper,
>But I bought it from a dispensary
Same thing they got the cheap shit from china/India in a perfect world, yes, all drugs should be legal but it's not and you may be in your hippy phase where brotherly love and what not, it's true most people have good intentions, but you get one pos who can destroy all the trustworthy, wolf in sheeps clothing, one bad apple, so on and so forth, just saying I've been there done that, say every 100mdma trips 1 is meth and goes nuts blah blah, for every 100lsd blotters you get one that fries your brain, it happens dude, drugs are best left underground ffs look at philly/Kensington where the drug market is no longer underground, fentanyl being a perfect example, it's cheaper

Silk road was apex drug trade, I'm glad he got pardoned, buying cocaine straight from the farmer was the idea, or pure lsd straight from the chemist

>>41317977
>>41317780
I honestly look up to the guy a lot, the way he brought stories around drugs to light while portraying the drugs themselves as neutral or even positive, and doing it from a scientific perspective, AND advocating for novel drug therapies, AAAND putting in the chemistry work too. Shame there will never be a Hamilton's Pharmacopeia season 4, he fucking hates Vice now.

I wish he had shit on Gordon Wasson, Sidney Gottlieb, and Krystle Cole more, though.

>>41316494 (OP)
My vote is for psychedelics!

>>41316494 (OP)
>support laws against what you can do to your own body?
Yeah like fentanyl which kills tons of people from overdoses every year? But harmless psychedelics with major mental health benefits? That sounds fine to me for people to use in careful moderation or whatever

What, next thing you're gonna say abortion should be perfectly legal for all circumstances? Because "it's their body"? What about assisted suicide for young people for any particular reason? I'd say no to these because that's simply inhuman and fucked up to throw away human lives and souls so callously. No thanks, that's some evil and demonic stuff right there that'll destroy society and humanity as a whole.

>>41321716
Society deserves to be destroyed and people should have the freedom to choose how it happens