Thread 41338479

Plato's forms, Christianitys fallen world, hindus Maya, and simulation are all different ways of expressing the same thing

>>41338479 (OP)
deja vu and mandela effect

>>41338479 (OP)
Nothing complex is uncreated, and nothing created is independent of Mind. All objects of consciousness are figments born and hosted in the imagination of God.

>>41338489
Mandela vu when they hapoen simultaneously. In all seriousness, it has be a simulation of some kind. This is not the outer layer.

The pulsation you can notice all around and in the stars

>>41338479 (OP)
Double-slit experiment

>>41338486
>>41338489
>>41338514
What I'm asking is if there is anything in physics, biology, etc that suggests that almost irrefutably that we live in some sort of simulation

>>41338640
Quantum Mechanics. But the proof is everywhere for those with eyes to see.

There are mysterious powers at work.
Divination and manifestation indicate this.

>>41338640
nothing solid proof obviously but this is interresting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FotuAE-e1JI

>>41338667
this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function_collapse

Nope. There is no proof for any nature of the universe. Personally i think the whole question is one giant noob trap.

Every notion about the nature of the universe which would imply one ideal way of behaving can be countered by another nature of the universe that looks identical but has opposite implication about behavior.

Meaning that the universe can ALWAYS troll you no matter how smart you are.

If there is a smartest way to be, it's not from discovering the nature of reality.

>>41339859
>universe can ALWAYS troll you
Good post. Do you think his current prank is this simulation we seem to be in?

>>41338479 (OP)
the glitches

>>41338479 (OP)
i jsut accessed the control prompt and changed your skin to be black

>>41339859
>There is no proof for any nature of the universe.
Some thing about the universe can never change. Even if it's little. Maybe just its self awareness unless there are layers beyond the universe which contain it and manage its nature. That thing that doesn't change must be its nature.

>>41338670
Dont get it honestly, what is that experiment proving?

>>41338479 (OP)
Simulation theory fails epistemically.

>>41340025
how evil

>>41340070
Why?

>>41338479 (OP)
You can't prove it even if you hop to another universe (I have) because all the evidence of the change is... changed.

>>41340186
If we were in a simulation we could never know it because your coming to know it would also be part of the simulation and thus, by default, part of the illusion. This is the problem with all solipsistic worldviews. They're self refuting.

>>41340259
Your argument makes zero sense. Lets say that in a few years a super advanced AI powered by ultra advanced quantum computers is able to prove mathematically that this is a "simulated" reality whatever that might mean, how would that refute itself and the idea about a simulated reality?

>>41340316
You've shifted from an epistemic question to an ontological question. Ontologically it could be true that reality is simulated, but epistemically, if the simulation theory is true, then the conditions for knowing anything, including you coming to know we are in a simulation, collapse. Also, the root issue is that, within a simulation, the super advanced giga AI, its computations and its proof, would also be simulated, meaning they’re subject to the simulation’s control and potential manipulation. The AI lacks an external reference point to verify its findings so its proof cannot escape the epistemic trap, thus any conclusion it reaches could be an illusion engineered by the simulation.

I know for a fact there's only 736 real people in the world and the remaining are spawn from a massive collective of souls that were ripped apart during a apocalyptic event. "Souls" are a real thing and after said event most wandered for awhile before being conditioned to enter this realm. We basically live in a digital simulation inside a nuclear reactor compressing a man made protostar. The 736 are rich people in cryostasis. Almost everyone outside the spaceship containing the protostar reactor has died, real Earth is being reclaimed by nature. This simulation has only existed for three decades. Oh, and weirdly enough, the catacism in question happened in 601ad, people in base reality went from antiquity to the industrial revolution in 10 generations or a century. Make of all that what you will.

>>41340443
Just to clarify, the collective comes from a human society that was mindraped at once. That gay anime is soft disclosure on this. The one with the albino girl with blue hair.
There has been little to no editing or significants changes in this simuation since october 2012. That accounts for 18 years in base reality.

>>41338479 (OP)
plank length, quanta, idk

>>41340443

What was the event that ripped apart souls and made them an amalgamation/hivemind? Is this why my name keeps getting brought up, because it is a simulation, why tho? Also, is it possible we are a different sex, race, and age in base reality than in here? Are we even human on base reality and not like elves or something?

Neon Genesis Evangelion is what you are referring to, Rei is the girl.

>>41340038
shared experiences through altered brain states possibly only way to see "truth"

>>41341020
Shut up faggot

>>41341154
I don't know if "shared experiences" would really constitute anything considering we have the same brain structure. I don't know how to explain it well, but wouldn't certain "bits", like in a computer, be flipped on by certain drugs? My neurons that make me think of... I dunno, boobs, are miraculously flipped on by a hallucinogenic just like it would be for you if you were to take the same drug.

I don’t know about all that, but the one thing I have definite proof of is that you’re a faggot.

>>41338656
>Quantum Mechanics
Elaborate.

>>41338479 (OP)
There isn't any proof of anything except that the person reading this probably exists

When you really think about it, a type of stimulation makes a hell of a lot more sense than everything being the result of 'it just is'

>>41338479 (OP)
There is no way an observer inside simulation to tell it's a simulation. Everything will looks perfect to the eyes and the other physical senses.

>inb4 glitch/bug
The idea that we might be in a simulation is sometimes argued based on perceived glitches or inconsistencies in reality (like the "Higgs boson" or the "Great Filter"). However, these are not actual "glitches" in the simulation sense, but rather the normal behavior of physical systems. No one has ever found a definitive "glitch" or inconsistency in nature that definitively proves it's a simulation.

>>41338479 (OP)
no
there can't be proof we're in a sim
our universe does not have enough compute to prove such a thing, by definition
can an Animal Crossing animal prove they're in a video game?
inb4
>but the video game NPC isn't conscious like we are
our consciousness and intelligence is probably less than one trillionth of what counts as consciousness outside the sim
the person running the sim could have ten trillion IQ and thousands of senses
and that person is probably in a sim being managed by an entity trillions of times more complex than them
and so on
while there's no proof, we can also safely assume we're not the base reality and we'll never reach the world running our sim no matter how hard we try unless our creator intervenes and lets us tour their world in some sort of reverse avatar (low tier entity visiting a higher plane)
there's always a chance our creator died in their equivalent of slipping and bonking one's head while taking a bath, so...
maybe their friends or family (if they even have such concepts) will notice their Game Boy Color running our universe and play with us a little? even that could take trillions of years of our time

>>41342174
>>41342470
>>41342710
Wrong.

You can see the pulsation in reality, it doesn't have to be there, it's purely a facet of possible simulation.

>>41342720
Wrong.

You can't see anything.

>>41342724
You're an NPC. The pulsation everywhere is noticeable.

>>41342743
optometrist now

>>41342724
You contradict yourself saying reality is simulated as reality when in fact reality is a simulation. You can notice it. Trust me.

>>41340259
>because your coming to know it would also be part of the simulation
You're assuming it's what your knowing considers a simulation. It's beyond a simulation and you arent able to confirm exactly how it works.

>>41343486
Tell me what to go more do look like

Meaning: your post was word salad

>>41343493
Well you seem to think you know exactly how this thing works. I'm saying you don't. You've provided this answer while filling in some blanks yourself by assuming this 'simulation' has no flexibility.

>>41343517
Schizo

>>41343521
Ah right, it's your time of the month. Sorry love, you were right all along.

>>41341623

Eff off

>>41340259
Gibberish.

>>41342470
>There is no way an observer inside simulation to tell it's a simulation.
Wrong. All differentiated experience must be simulated since no distinctions can exist without a mind to make them. The ultimate reality, independent of Mind, is undivided and whole.

Yes.

You cannot prove you are real.

>>41338479 (OP)
We live in a giant holodeck but nothing about it reality suggests the holodeck is “simulating”something beyond maybe the physics engine.

>>41344251
I say the n-word all the time and only real niggas can do that.

>>41338479 (OP)
the existence of NPCs

>>41338479 (OP)
The President of the United States is Donald Trump. What more evidence do you need?

>>41338479 (OP)
We live in SATANS domain.
He is in everything and everywhere.
He is trying to win the war between good n evil.
It's up to us to transform the evil into good and keep it that way.
Pray to God and resist satan

>>41340259
and you know the world is not a simulation based on evidence that comes from your own experience, which is not self refuting. funny how that works

>>41344053
Not an argument
>>41344476
Completely misses the point of my argument. I stated a conditional: if we were in a simulation then we could never know it because any knowing would be part of the illusion. You reply as if I said "I know we are not in a simulation."

>>41345360
NTA and your argument is sound but does presuppose a simulation needs to exist in totality.
We can simulate a medieval battle and people can see right through that while being part of one.
Imagine growing up with a carnie family and knowing nothing else, same concept.

>>41345360
>>41345392
a better way to put it would be that the "simulation" aspect needn't be at the cellular level

>>41341020
I have spoken to you before on this website. I first spoke of this on code, referencing 144,592 instead of the actual 736.
>the event that ripped apart souls
I know it occureed on 1st of the second month, 601ad in their calendar.
Bu they didn't tell me what it was, only that it was a join project. I am certain it wasn't nuclear. I believe karma or a system attaching actions exists on base reality. You need to understand the human elites "over there" wanted to avoid something. That's the reason they teamed up with the nine divines that ran the place to create this prison.
I am not sure what exactly were they trying to avoid.
>why tho?
Because you are being watched.
It's no big deal. Don't bother making a scene, people don't care.
>different sex
Yes. The nine divines themselves are the higher up admins but are in theory six year olds in cryostasis. I am not sure what kind of people were allowed in the remaining lots of the ship. I do know this: some few souls were able to resist whatever happened and remain in their bodies at the time of the happening. They now wander the Earth, disperse as the wilderness overtakes everything.
>are we even human
On the original first two trials of the simulation (before october 2012) the differences between the "races" of man were more distinct. Animals in base reality come from two different planets so I assume that too was more noticeable. Indians weren't a thing too, make of that what you will haha.
But yeah, we are humans. The word for human in base reality's lingua franca sounded like roman. I think it was "rumenis", maybe "ruminos". I can't remember.
> Rei is the girl
I see.

>>41345360
>Completely misses the point of my argument. I stated a conditional: if we were in a simulation then we could never know it because any knowing would be part of the illusion.
the point of your argument was self refutation, which is not true. we can't know doesn't imply a debunking

>>41344386
Hahah, good one, you got me there.

>>41345360
>Completely misses the point of my argument. I stated a conditional: if we were in a simulation then we could never know it because any knowing would be part of the illusion.
But that's simply false. We know the content of our experience. What we don't know is any alleged 'physical world' that lies beyond consciousness. Because no such world exists. There is only consciousness.

>>41345422

Wait, are you the dude that said we were children in cryosleep slowly dying after 10,000 years?

>>41338479 (OP)
pay attention to the similarities between gangstalking and "schizophrenia" and you can see clearly that there is technology being used on us to manipulate peoples thoughts

it's really simple once you figure it out

>>41338479 (OP)
what if the creators are just waiting for one of us to find out whats behind the veil? What if someone found out already and he is trapped or has become god?

>>41338479 (OP)
Ask the several miracles a day keeping you alive, but with just enough suffering.
Ask someone who's experienced Quantum immortality, an NDE, or an ayy abduction.
Anecdotes and hearsay is all you're gonna get unless you do something really stupid or catch their attention some other way. Stay away from psychedelics, not even weed; turn to Christianity or whatever religion keeps you sane.

>>41342171
>Elaborate.
no.

>>41339859
Very good post

>>41348817
Thank you for admitting that you're just full of shit.

>>41338479 (OP)
it seems to be superpositions of simulations in retrograde time travel fields, hold on we're not joking!

If it was a simulation, you would have simulated a better experience for yourself, correct?

>>41338479 (OP)
Yes, everyone lives in their own simulation created by themselves.

>>41350143

You are ignoring the BIG fact that it us possible they/we were placed here unwillingly.

>>41350143
maybe I pressed the wrong button

>>41350143
Free will doesn't exist in the simulation

>>41338479 (OP)
Simulation is a psyop to deceive you into not believing in God. Don't fall for this mid brain reddit tier atheist meme.