>>41351842
if it has spacetime for things to occur in, its not nothingness
in fact, if it has anything at all it's not nothingness, and that includes creations
so how can anything come from nothingness? especially when what we call nothingness is always changing, always requiring new things to exclude as we learn about them or invent them?
nothingness is clearly dependent upon existence and us, not the other way around