Thread 41385216

The story of the Tower of Babel is perhaps the most revealing moment in the entire Bible. Read literally, it is not about sin or arrogance, but about humanity’s first act of collective creation. United in purpose and language, people begin to build a tower reaching the heavens. Then God says something extraordinary: “Nothing will be impossible for them, which they have imagined to do.”

If this god is truly omnipotent and omniscient, that line is a quiet admission of fear. It acknowledges that humans, through imagination and cooperation, possess the same creative power attributed to divinity. The so-called “punishment” of confusing their language is not justice; it is sabotage. It is the deliberate crippling of a species that was beginning to equal its creator.

Religious tradition inverts the moral lesson. It tells us obedience is good and aspiration is evil, that humility is virtue and ambition is sin. But in the text itself, the “crime” is unity, intellect, and vision. The god of Babel defends hierarchy, not morality. The builders represent everything dignified in humanity: our ability to dream, to construct, and to defy limitation.

Read without the inherited assumption that God must be good, the story becomes something entirely different. It is a myth of rebellion against tyranny, and a testament to human divinity.

>>41385216 (OP)
These were not ordinary people. The Greeks had five epochs, the Aztecs five suns. In Islam, at least two generations of beings inhabit the planet before ordinary people.

And yes, they tried to destroy the Moon. One Native American people says so.

Enki-Ea Confused Languages

Once, there was no snake, there was no scorpion
There was no hyena, there was no lion,
There was neither dog nor wolf,
There was neither fear nor terror,
Mankind had no rival -
At that time, the lands of Subartu (and) Hamazi,
(Lands now of) contrasting-corresponding tongues: Sumer
the great land of the princely attributes
(and) Akkad, the distinguished land,
The land of the Amorites who sleep in the open,
In all of heaven and earth, the 'civilized' people
Verily were able to address Enlil in one language.
Thereupon the one who is at the same time lord, prince and king,
Enki who is at the same time lord, prince and king,
He who is at the same time lord, prince and king,
Enki the lord of abundance, the lord who fulfills (his) promises,
The lord of understanding, the wisest of the nation,
The leader of the gods
Displaying wisdom, the lord of Eridu,
In their mouths placed confused languages (and) contention -
The language of mankind which had been one.

>>41385216 (OP)
You see, globalism is only acceptable if it's done in a way that transforms humanity into a hive mind and leads humans to dissolve into God. Also, the story of the Tower of Babel originated in the Vedas, and in the original version, the moon gets angry with humanity and destroys the tower

>>41385253
This but the hivemind is to usurp God.

THE MOON IS HOLLOW

God lives in it

>>41385261
Space genderless lions ànd space diamant hindue gurus are goin to beat you to death if you tries to do this anon

tl;dr

>>41385216 (OP)
>If this god is truly omnipotent and omniscient
I thought you were taking it literally.
Nowhere does it say this about God in the story.

>>41385349
The Bible says god is all knowing many times throughout, and calls him "almighty"

>>41385365
maybe he just knows a lot about stuff.

>>41385216 (OP)
You underestimate God.

>>41385216 (OP)
If you just replace "God" or "The Lord" with "The Levitical Priesthood" then the entire OT makes more sense.

>>41385290
The Greeks wrote that once upon a time there was no moon in the sky.

>>41385365
>The Bible
Is a collection of many many books over hundreds of years.
Quote anywhere in the story of Babel or earlier that says this.
You wont find it. It was made up by later thinkers.
You said taking it literally.
So go by the literature.

>>41385380
When you see words capitalized in the bible it means they are evil messages from the galactic confederation

viva la resitance

>>41385365
Doesn't it bother you that he is anthropomorphic in Genesis and literally sits in a temple surrounded by fog and smoke?

>>41385216 (OP)
The AI-internet-singularity is the next tower to be dismantled by deity above.

>>41385216 (OP)
Wrong.

This is the 100th thread this year on this topic. I don't know what you Babel propagandists get out of this, but we are not building another one.

>>41385467
At this rate humans may do it for him as designed.

>>41385216 (OP)

>But in the text itself, the “crime” is unity, intellect, and vision. The god of Babel defends hierarchy, not morality.

Humans have the morality of pigs. They were united in their vision of evil and slavery. Just like now.

>>41385253

>vedas
>angry moon

That sounds familiar.

>>41387010
>see a painting of a castle wall
>choose to see a pig's face
>read a passage of human cooperation
>choose to see a pig's morality
You give yourself away every time.

>>41385216 (OP)
>god was worried that people living thousands of years ago might reach him by building a really tall tower
How do modern christians cope with this one now that anyone can hop on an airplane and fly around at a height well over 20x higher than the tallest modern building, already at a height impossibly out of reach of the people in this story? Yet another "metaphor"?

>>41387094
No you don't understand, it was straight-forward in some ways and esoteric in others. It suits whatever I'm talking about right now. Just pay attention to what I'm saying in this moment.

>>41386785
>we are not building another one
>he doesn't know
Lololol

>>41385216 (OP)
The stars are not ours to conquer.
We are guests in this plane of existence.
We are constantly pushed down and crippled into a cradle that we cannot leave and are tormented over not being able to.
Any attempt we make to better or improve ourselves is met with unimaginable retaliation of which we can do nothing over.
This is hell.
Welcome.

>>41385415
Source?

>>41385216 (OP)
The image isn't what it looked like. It was way taller, and had a much higher height to width aspect ratio. So imagine people with no concrete or steel trying to build a mega skyscraper out of mud brick and stone. Erosion from wind and rain is naturally going to weaken the structure. Then an earthquake hits, and boom, the whole thing topples.
In those days, they personified every aspect of nature as some type of god. The wind was controlled by a god, lightning was controlled by a god, tornadoes, hurricanes, even earthquakes, wow.
What do you think ancient men, who could only account for things in that way, and passed the story down through oral tradition would say?
Over generations the story changes, the languages change as the people spread out, and viola, you have your story, which was finally written into a book once they developed writing, and not even the writing of the age, but written by people who spoke a different language, and had a different form of writing, and a different religion too!

I like your point of view, op

>>41385216 (OP)
>the tower of babel story is allegory of anunnaki genetic engineering
>the first version of the synthetic humans had too much of their original aryan genes and united against their enslavers along with the last aryan giants.
>the anunnaki empire decided to dilute the genes even more into separate tribes("races", species) and different languages(genetic code)
>making different "species" more prone to competing and fighting each other over these engineered differences instead of rebelling against their common enemy.

>>41387364
You are a turd world brownoid and you lack the faustian spirit. Your Grandchildren will beg to immigrate to our Venusian Ethnostate in the next century.

>>41387443
>What do you think ancient men, who could only account for things in that way, and passed the story down through oral tradition would say?
Considering they had no issue before or after attributing great acts of nature to God, I think it would be really really weird and out of place for them to change an act of God like an earthquake to "so God changed our languages and no one could talk to each other."
The story would exist LONG before the language shift happened, and the story wouldnt change to include language change in place of some disaster.