Thread 41433210

I will gladly let go of money, status, women, etc if I can achieve this end, I will become the holiest mystic and/or the humblest of slaves - which god or gods , amulet, ritual, practice, etc will get me here?

I'll do all of em combined if I have too - I just want some mental peace

Have you read Bhagavad Gita?

>>41433365
nope , throw the pros at me - why/how does it help?

If you become Catholic ans increase in sanctity you will become better in dealing with them in a way that might satisfy you. However they will never stop, you have to duke it out every day I can tell you.

>>41433417
Problem with christians is how can you justify worshipping a man who literally died in Rome? Yea I understand "word made flesh" etc - there's all kinds of copes and workarounds lore-wise. But I would not feel comfortable sending a help request or prayer to Jesus.

If one could be christian and just affirm the holy spirit or god the father - I could find a way to make it work. But Jesus is literally the main guy , his name on the billboard on every command etc so it can't be done.

I understand all 3 are one , so technically a prayer to one is a prayer to all , I could justify it if one could argue Jesus was an avatar / gnostic style Jesus maybe but idk

>>41433210 (OP)
Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither and will have neither.

>>41433508
Nah, you are correct. Christianity is the creation of God in the image of man, and so the adoption of it by Rome completely twisted the monotheism into a dualistic trinitarian mess.
I'm not going to prescribe a religion because that feels like a more personal journey that every individual person will go through. However, I do think part of the answer for your question will ultimately have to be solitude and isolation.
Something like a monk hermit. One that can meditate and pray, no matter how cold, hot, hungry, and alone they feel.

>>41433210 (OP)
I have been there for a long time. The key is detachment from your own and others suffering, you can't control how others think and therefore you shouldn't let how they think affect you. Of course this brings the risk of being a sociopath, so only do it once you reached overflowing compassion and wisdom.

>>41434944
strangely wise , thanks anon

>>41434944
>>41435217
>avatar posting
it's a tranny

>>41433210 (OP)
Combination of Christianity and just a smidge of every other religion on earth particularly Norse/Buddhist traditions worked well for me.

Jesus teaches how to overcome the world and make you completely immune to suffering. Take his teaching in the context of broader ideas of enlightenment and you can't fail to achieve Nirvana.

>>41435535
>Jesus teaches how to overcome the world and make you completely immune to suffering.
and what's the "key ingredient" ? what in particular did he teach how to overcome and become immune?

>>41435543
You can narrow the whole Bible before Jesus down to the Golden Rule
>do unto others as you'd have them do unto you
Jesus said that was the law and the prophets.

Then you need to learn of Jesus and take his yoke unto you for a while which basically makes you two a team working on you.

Specifically three of his teachings stand out and this is massively summarized but:
1) To achieve perfection, love everyone and you will be rewarded with perfection.
2) Heaven is inside you and is not something you need to look for or wait for.
3) There is a kind of Solipsism in that Jesus is in God and God is in Jesus but beyond that if I come to you in his name receiving me is receiving him and receiving him is receiving God, and not just in the Christian sense.

>>41435562
The shortest version of this post and what I perhaps should have said in the first place is omnipotence.

If you are a son of God you are omnipotent but omnipotence is not what normal people think. It's not flying around like superman it's radical acceptance of reality because reality is God's will.

>>41435575
>omnipotence is not what normal people think. It's not flying around like superman it's radical acceptance of reality because reality is God's will.
well what about those raping little kids/eating their meat? are they closer to god or how come there's no setbacks for their actions? they treat humanity like shit yet they get to live as gods? It sounds good on paper but upon closer inspection, it seems the karma doesn't seem to apply to some beings or people, as if they've created their own artificial laws that provides them loopholes for their wrongdoings unto others.

>>41435582
That's just the problem of evil.
How can God or reality be good if evil exists.
It's very simple and this is also in Buddhism/Japanese "do" etc, you need to stop relying on your attachment to your idea of what is good and what is evil and just accept each moment as it is.
You suffer because you argue with reality rather than accept it for what it is.
You are not trusting that divine justice is in play even when human justice fails.

>>41433210 (OP)
>All I want is complete and absolute psychological protection from evil people
>I will gladly let go of money, status, women, etc if I can achieve this end
Well there you go. That's 90% of it right there. Live well below your means. Don't engage with society in general. Stay in peace. Can't have both. Society is awful. Best move if you truly want peace is to disconnect entirely from it.

There's nothing for you there if you want peace. It's entirely geared toward the physical and pursuits of the flesh. Nobody can sell you peace. Having peace is anti-capitalistic. Nobody sitting in peace ever thought, "Holy fuck. I just got this sudden urge to go buy a ton of stuff" Because they don't need to, because they already have everything they could ever want in infinite amounts, which is nothing. If you want things outside of yourself, you become a cheap whore that will sell your own lived experience to someone else, externalizing that which gives you meaning, when what they offer in return is entirely meaningless and specifically designed to take as much of your time, attention, and money as they can possibly get from you. It is predation. The very moment you seek anything outside of yourself, you have already lost The Game.

>>41433508
Yeah you're walking along the edge of understanding. Close. Jesus the man was never important. The only thing that was important was what he carried inside of him. He carried the Logos. When he said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life and nobody should come to the father except through me" He was not speaking about his body or the man Jesus. He was specifically speaking about the Logos, aka the Holy Spirit. It was the Logos speaking through that avatar.

The "son" in the holy Trinity is you. It is creation. You are metaphorically Jesus the man and your goal should be to embody the holy spirit. The holy spirit is the only way to be in Heaven, as embodying the holy spirit is to be resonantly aligned to it post-death. You go wherever you're resonantly aligned to when you die.

Christians completely messed this up by elevating the historical man Jesus to Godhood, forever destroying any sense of logical understanding of what the original meaning was supposed to be. The holy spirit is not tied to the historical event of Jesus' resurrection. It is available to anyone at any time. It's not bound to Christianity even. Anyone can tap into it. Jesus is not the way to Heaven. The Holy Spirit/Logos is the way. Jesus is just a mascot. He was a heroic man from Heaven that chose to come down here to deliver us a message, knowing we would kill him for it and decided to do it anyway, but he wasn't special other than in doing that

I just saved you 20 years of Bible study. Ask me how I know. The church intentionally makes this impossible to understand so you have to "just have faith" and never question anything they tell you, because they themselves don't even understand what theyre saying. They just repeat it and have faith themselves and hope you don't dig too deep so they don't have to resort to, "well idk. God works in mysterious ways" as if ignorance is a positive virtue as proof of faith. It's so backwards man

>>41433210 (OP)
Just figure out what Stream Entry and Buddhadharma are in supramundane terms, that's all you need to do.
At a minimum you will need sense restraint and to recognize sign (signifier / indicator) of mind, how to introspect the present, now, general condition of your own mind.

>>41433210 (OP)
Sir, all you need are your good friends logic and reason, as well as a healthy diet and plenty of exercise in fresh air.

>>41438327
I'll give it a whirl , desu I do that stuff anyway so it's not really much of a loss lol

>>41438384
I respect you immensely for being able to elucidate this idea in such a succinct way, cause THIS is something I can get behind. And THIS makes christianity feel monotheistic again. Are there any resources you have or know about that expand on this angle? This feels like I'm entering Meister Eckhart territory / this is what christian mystics get upto.

So with this understanding , how do you conduct your daily life and practice if common denominator christianity has been set up to worship Jesus the man in some sense , how do you mentally frame Jesus because truth be told I don't even know if I buy the heroic man angle - there's a gnostic tale that kind of concurs with what you are saying. Peter or one of them apostle dudes was overlooking the crucifixion and saw Jesus laughing OVER the body of Jesus/the man getting cucified which concurs that the man is meaningless - its the holy spirit angle that's the real juice and affirms his last words on the cross "my god, why has thoust forsaken me" - it makes sense why the man would be saying that.

I think I might become a christian without christianity if there is no practical way to live this and maybe use core buddhism as the daily driver of practice (ie meditation)/mental stability.
>>41439241
I'll give it a look

>>41441527
working on it

>>41433210 (OP)
Try to experience mystical rapture.

>>41435582
They'll suffer for their actions in the 'after' life and if you believe in reincarnation they'll have to live through similar suffering they've caused.

>>41433417
>they will never stop, you have to duke it out every day I can tell you.
they come and go it's weird.

>>41443807
>This feels like I'm entering Meister Eckhart territory
Yup, he nailed it. Monist Emanationism. Viewing Christianity through that lens immediately makes it make sense

>So with this understanding , how do you conduct your daily life and practice
I understand the nature of God and seek proximity to it. I think about it all the time every day. I don't need to make much choice, as it all tends to align to God's will. It sort of happens automatically. If something feels, "off" I just don't do it and stay away from it. I ONLY want to be closer to God and it bleeds into everything whether I'm conscious of it or not.

>core buddhism
Advaita Vedanta buddhism is literally identical to Meister Eckhart and early Christian Mysticism. It's a 1:1 exact mapping

>I don't even know if I buy the heroic man angle
I'm not certain of the veracity of the historical tale as a literal account of truth. It doesn't matter to me if it is true or not, but I lean strongly in favor that it actually did occur


>there's a gnostic tale
Many Gnostic sects are literal satanic covens. They view God itself as the demi-urge and try to convince you to usurp it by becoming the God of your own universe. They frame God as a parasite that is snorting your life experiences because it can't nourish itself without your suffering. It's so dumb man, but it's very common. I'd stay away from self proclaimed Gnostics. I had a Gnosis moment, but I would never call myself a Gnostic

> god, why has thoust forsaken me
He was probably speaking as Jesus the man there, not the Logos. He was just scared and in pain. It was also apparently in reference to another prophecy/Biblical passage. Fulfilling Malachi(?) maybe

>>41444748
>They frame God as a parasite that is snorting your life experiences because it can't nourish itself without your suffering.

I mean, that is exactly what kikes do.

>>41438384
Sounds heretical.

>>41433210 (OP)
Absolute protection is not possible as life will find a way.
Best if you learn how to stand up for yourself.

>>41433210 (OP)
The practice you are seeking is the total eradication of evil beings.

Fortunately you arrived at just the right time, so get your pitchfork and axe sharpened.

Oh, and - once we're done we can share all of the resources, hoes, and aura. Plenty to go round when all of the retards are dealt with!

You need ADHD drugs. Your problem isn't attacks from some external force. Your problem is racing and intrusive thoughts.

Unfortunately OP is asking for too much.
Your spirit seeks death, it is giving you behavior to ensure rapidity.