I see Defendo places around me, from their descriptions it seems like Krav Maga but with more focus on unarmed fighting, on their website it says their bases are taken from Muay Thai and catch wrestling.
How effective is this? Why would someone learn defendo over just going to a regular old MMA gym?

>>199760 (OP)
It's more for security work, as far as I've understood it. It's more trying to control the situation until you have the dominant control, and then de-escalation if needed. They at least used to be about control holds, reining someone out of the bar/into the police car/down to the ground, and so on. And not just one-on-one fights, but how to take control of someone if you have a partner on your side.

If the places around you have live resistance training, then go and check them out.

>>199760 (OP)
>defendo
judging by its name, it is bullshit

>"exotic" inventor/instructor name
>catch wrestling base
>English word with vaugely Asian martial art suffix

How much for his entire VHS catalog?

>>199760 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dc5lixbTus

>>199773
that'll be $499 plus tip

>>199773
What's wrong with catch wrestling?

>>199760 (OP)
Okay, it's clearly some aikido level bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wnwWpLDQRE

>>199797
No one claiming it as a base for something else has ever been telling the truth.

>>199797
There's nothing wrong with catch wrestling as a martial art. The problem is legit catch places are few and far between. There's a lot of weirdos and charlatans who claim catch wrestling backgrounds but have dubious credentials. If they're not from a handful of verified catch gyms, odds are they're grifters or just hipsters.

>>199807
I mean that's true for every style except maybe wrestling.

>>199760 (OP)
Are the places near you actually Jyrki Saario Defendo, or Canadian Defendo, or Scandinavian defendo, or some other defendo?
For some reason, there's multiple defendo martial arts, that have little to nothing to do with each other.

>>199811
It's actually Jyrki Saario Defendo.

>>199760 (OP)
>Why would someone learn defendo over just going to a regular old MMA gym?
I don't know. Just learn a combat sport, or at least something that has realistic training and some connection to combat sports (students that compete, coaches that teach students to compete). A connection to competition helps weed out the bullshit, and the types of people attracted to combat sports are more likely to be competent and knowledgeable.

>>199800
>the whole video is just static "demonstrations"
number 1 sign that you're being taught a glorified choreography. OP go learn something better.

>>199760 (OP)
Anything with as retarded of a name as “defendo” is going to teach something equally retarded. I can’t believe I still have to tell people this in the age of the internet but just learn a legit combat sport and you’ll be far better off than any RBSD LARPer faggot.

>>199815
>>199824
Combat sports are an important aspect of training but if you're not also exploring defense scenarios outside a competition setting and with weapons you're going to have some blind spots.

>>199893
That's a fair point. Not like there's anything wrong with learning that stuff on top of it all. I'm just skeptical that Defendo in particular is the best way to learn defense scenarios or weapons.

>>199894
Jyrki Saario appears to be from a combat sport background so it at least seems plausible that his system could be reasonable. I'm completely unfamiliar with it, however, and therefore share your skepticism.
https://www.defendo-usa.com/about-us/jyrki-saario.html

>>199809
The difference is there's millions of practitioners of other martial arts, but the number of bonafide catch wrestlers numbers in the low thousands at most. Online though it seems like a million from every rando claiming to be a catch wrestler.

So, did OP get some personal experience?

>>203185
No, I just signed up for boxing instead.

>>199760 (OP)
>Defendo
No self-respecting man would even consider doing something with such a goofy name.

OP you should try my system Attacko. It's 100% effective and mogs Defendo.

>>207414
Fucking kek

>>207414
A good Attacko is the best Defendo.

>>199760 (OP)
who names their martial art after a harry potter spell

>>207414
>>207575
This Attacko, no can Defendo

>>207583
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defendo
>Underwood had created Combato in 1910, at 15 years old
>Underwood was asked to modify the system to remove its lethal applications and instead focus on the Law Enforcement applications of self-defence, compliance and control tactics. He realized that he could not call this system Combato, so his daughter Pat Underwood proposed that he call the system "Defendo".
It makes sense after reading it's a twist on a name he came up with as a 15 year old.

"defendo"

>>207613
Combato is what happens when an unstoppable Attacko meets an unassailable Defendo.

>>207613
>at 15 years old I created my own lethal combat system
This is Frank Dux tier

>>199760 (OP)
By the name alone, bullshit

>>199797
Anyone actually good at submission grappling is doing BJJ

Wasn't the guy who made defendo also the guy who invented what they called combato for the military? some sort of Hong Kong cop or something or my memory is wildly wrong

>>219193
You're thinking of WE Fairbairn who made Defendu and was a cop in Shanghai.

>>199760 (OP)
Huh. Only time I've heard of "defendo" was in late ww2 era US military hand to hand manuals that incorporated some judo techniques alongside boxing and bayonet fighting. It was meant to sound cool/exotic like karate or judo, but have a clear English meaning. Gotta get the 18 year old farm boy draftees to pay attention somehow. I think the creator, Bill Underwood, was Canadian, but the manuals were popular in US military training as well. If this is the same thing, it's probably just a specialized martial art that takes standard worn/carried military or police gear into consideration.

>>207613
>Combato
>Create a killing style at age 15
>People take you seriously enough to adopt it as a teaching style of modern LEO/Security work
>Give it an even more retarded name
Fucking how. lmao

>>228216
Alexander the Great began his military career at 16. Oliver Hazard Perry was appointed midshipman in the US Navy at age 13. David Farragut was a midshipman at age 9. A 15 year old who spent a few years training with circus Japanese jiu-jitsu men during the heyday of traveling catch an jiu-jitsu demonstrations instead of doomscrolling and shitposting could have some competent ideas about martial arts, particularly if he kept training and developing those ideas for several more decades and through a good war or two.
https://magazine.fighttimes.com/bill-underwood/

>>228218
Based retard

>>228544
Thanks, you too.

Lmao defendo

if you want to fight

take on myua thai

if you want to wrestle

take on BJJ
but in all seriousness, you aren't most likely going to be a competitive fighter, so you're doing it for the fun of it.
whatever way you want your ass beaten is completely up to you, it could be boxing, kickboxing or even some of the lighter forms of fighting like capoeira

i've tried boxing, kickboxing and myua thai myself and i found the funniest ass beatings to come from myua thai

>>199760 (OP)
Krav is defendu, they just stole it