I made a family tree of all the most popular martial arts - /xs/ (#225001) [Archived: 775 hours ago]

Anonymous
2/28/2025, 6:33:16 AM No.225001
Martial Arts 2
Martial Arts 2
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All of the martial art family trees online are shit, so I decided to create a half-decent one. How did I do? What did I do wrong? What should I add?
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Anonymous
2/28/2025, 7:31:57 AM No.225008
>>225001 (OP)
>What did I do wrong?
Made this absolute abortion of a thread, for one. There’s no one who’ll end up ITT who’s not autistic enough to tell you how Fujian White Crane connects to Goju Ryu, or whatever the fuck else. And even after all that, your family tree is a minimalist piece shit, containing almost no information. A thread died for this you FUCK. I wish it was you who died. Now, get ye gone, and never post here again.
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Anonymous
2/28/2025, 4:43:25 PM No.225019
>Krav Maga
>European
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Anonymous
2/28/2025, 6:25:37 PM No.225028
>wrestling and boxing, the two most effective martial arts are missing
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Anonymous
2/28/2025, 11:30:32 PM No.225043
>>225019
Krav Maga is mainly based on a mix of European martial arts. It's founder was born in Central Europe.
>>225028
Wrestling and boxing are generic terms. As the image says, I have have only included codified martial arts styles.
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Anonymous
3/1/2025, 12:07:26 AM No.225044
>>225001 (OP)
As someone who has always been slightly confused by the various lineages of ancient juujutsu and aikido branches, I'd like to see more of that.
Judo being a hybrid of kitou-ryuu and tenjin-shinyou-ryuu seems interesting enough to mention, for example
Anonymous
3/1/2025, 3:45:26 AM No.225048
No arnis?
Anonymous
3/1/2025, 11:42:49 AM No.225078
>>225001 (OP)

>What should I add?
Shuai jiao and sanda/sanshaou are notable omissions. Weird how you mentioned Funakoshi but not Shotokan the style he founded. You spelt bjj wrong.

>What did I do wrong?
Sambo didn't descend entirely from judo. European boxing and old school savate were also big components.

>I only included the most popular styles
You have Chuck Norris system on there.


>>225043
>Wrestling and boxing are generic terms. As the image says, I have have only included codified martial arts styles.

>What is Greco-Roman, freestyle, folkstyle, catch wrestling, luta livre, etc.
>what is bareknuckle, queensbury rules, dutch kickboxing, american kickboxing, etc.
Anonymous
3/1/2025, 11:11:46 PM No.225112
>>225001 (OP)
>A thread died for this you FUCK
Oh no, not the x>y bait thread with last reply from 2022, how will this board ever recover
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Anonymous
3/2/2025, 2:34:21 AM No.225137
>>225112
That was a better thread than this, and you know it, you disingenuous cunt.
Anonymous
3/2/2025, 4:32:10 AM No.225139
>>225001 (OP)
where would vale tudo and luta livre fit here? they competed with bjj but also influenced it. vale tudo was brazilian proto mma. also bjj was originally known as gracie jiu jitsu.
Anonymous
3/9/2025, 5:17:12 AM No.225688
CockPuncher
CockPuncher
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you forgot the best one
Anonymous
3/14/2025, 1:19:56 AM No.225909
Any updates from the OP?
Anonymous
3/22/2025, 3:00:44 AM No.226257
Martial Arts.drawio(1)
Martial Arts.drawio(1)
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OP here. I had a bit of free time today, so I expanded on karate and kenpo. More coming when I get more free time.
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Anonymous
3/25/2025, 8:56:38 AM No.226627
>>226257
Shouldn't there be a direct line drawn from Shotokan to Taekwondo? Which ancient Korean martial art is Taekwondo supposedly based on?
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Anonymous
3/25/2025, 7:22:42 PM No.226707
>>225008
>not autistic enough
>proceeds to sperg out
>Now, get ye gone, and never post here again.
If I cringed any harder I would have a fucking stroke.
Anonymous
3/25/2025, 7:24:58 PM No.226708
>>225001 (OP)
It's honestly pretty sparse, you really only listed the most popular/most documented, leaving it very incomplete.
Anonymous
3/25/2025, 7:42:21 PM No.226710
>>226627
Supposedly Taekkyon but it's massive fucking cope from Korean nationalists that TKD was totally this original Korean martial art. General Choi even blatantly plagiarized Funakoshi's Shotokan book in his TKD writings.

At least Tang Soo Do openly admits it took from Okinawa/Japanese Karate like Shudokan and Shito ryu as well as Chinese northern styles.
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Anonymous
3/26/2025, 9:22:43 AM No.226817
>>226710
How the fuck can Taekwondo be a continuation of Taekkyon when none of the original Kwan masters even knew Taekkyon? :D And hardly anyone else did either in the 1940s. I find it more likely that modern Taekkyon has actually been influenced by modern Taekwondo.
Anonymous
3/28/2025, 10:45:26 PM No.227064
>>225001 (OP)
>family tree
A family tree only works with distinct entities with a maximum of two parents each - anything messier than that and it gets unmanageable very quickly, and even if you keep things tidy you have to prune it viciously as you go back every generation to keep the size down, which renders it only useful to track a particular individual's line of descent. You'd be better off using Linnaean taxonomic classification here.
Anonymous
3/31/2025, 12:28:43 AM No.227354
>>225001 (OP)
Kickboxing comes from karate. Muay thai comes from boxing and muay boran