Is 24 too old to go pro in MMA? I've been a miserable loser all my life and if I succeeded in this, could I retroactively justify the pain or something?

My stats
>5'11", natural light or welterweight
>between 183-185cm wingspan
>roughly intermediate or above strength on all major lifts
>sadly no wrestling in high school (no bitches either)
>trained for a year in the past, went all in on striking and picked up some grappling/jiu jitsu too
>lonely, isolated friendless khhv for years now

I don't even care about my life anymore, this could be the only thing that could justify my existence. But I fear I'll never be able to catch up to the ones who went all in from birth.

>>230985 (OP)
UFC? Probably
Low-mid level promotions, maybe even international fights? Completely possible
t. also 24, ammy boxer turned ammy kickboxer and wants to make it to k1 and get jap pussy
WAGMI fag

>>230989
>probably
So there IS a chance, no matter how small? I know my odds are slim, but I wanna give it my best go while I'm still young. I realized I'm not immortal, as sad as it is. That 1 in a million chance I have enough talent to compensate for age is major hopium/copium.

I know I'm likely screwed but dreams can keep a person alive long past the point where they'd kill themselves otherwise. Maybe I'll get lucky and someone will do that move to me where they teep you into the ropes and then knee you on the bounce back and crack your ribs and puncture your lungs and kills you. That's about the highest note I could expect to end this life on.

go for it anon! don't live life with regrets. if you fail, you fail, but at least you know you tried

You need to stop having these faggy fantasies at your age and get real. "I wanna be a rockstar!" type of thinking is okay when you're 16, not when you're a grown man. If you had what it took you'd be training right now instead of making a thread like this on a Siamase yak breeding forum. Go train for a year or two, do a an amateur bout and if that doesn't strip you off your delusions then you can begin thinking about whether or not you want to take this more seriously.

>>230985 (OP)
Pereira went pro as a kickboxer in his mid-20s and moved to MMA in his 30s
Your odds are really slim but it's not unheard of

>>230985 (OP)
No. Save yourself the CTE. Fighters are born knowing if they want to fight and 24 is too old to get into that mentality if it didn't exist already. If you already have that aggressiveness and tested yourself before then go for it. But your post reeks of depression, depressed fighters will never be successful.

>>231090
you're a fucking loser anon , a retard like you never achieved anything in your faggot life

>>230985 (OP)
You're probably never going to be a professional athlete, no. However, the same applies to nearly everyone on the planet - it isn't a black mark against you. Your problem is that you think you need to be someone special, someone above-average or extraordinary, in order to have any value or self-worth at all. This simply isn't true. It's absolutely fine to be an average man. It's fine to go through life without fame or riches or exceptional talent, and this is the reality that the majority of people live. To find contentment and satisfaction in life, you need to learn how to accept yourself for who you are, rather than try and be someone you aren't.

>>231166
>It's absolutely fine to be an average man. It's fine to go through life without fame or riches or exceptional talent, and this is the reality that the majority of people live. To find contentment and satisfaction in life, you need to learn how to accept yourself for who you are, rather than try and be someone you aren't.
grim (but for OP, almost certainly true)

>>230985 (OP)
>i want to become a fighter because i want to succeed at something
You need to find better motivation than that, even if it's "I don't want to go back to that life"

>>230985 (OP)
A lot of mma fighters start late, usually because they train other styles when young. Ngannou for instance only started training boxing at 22 and would later start MMA at 27 or so. Other guys start in their career later, like Randy Couture at the age of 33 or Stephen Thompson at 29, but they had experience in other styles, namely Wrestling and Kickboxing for Couture and Thompson.

Basically it doesn't matter the age someone starts MMA. However I doubt you could go pro, from how it sounds, you seem disinterested in the sport, only wanting to achieve something to not be a bum, as opposed to having actual passion or drive.

Biologically? No. Not too late. MMA in particular is a sport with huge variance due to its extremely open ruleset. You can probably get good at some weird tactic and win fights. Do you actually want to get hit in the head though? Most fighters have some kind of troubled home life or just insane aggressive drive that makes them want to fuck shit up and shrug off damage. Sensitive young men are typically terrible fighters. And since you're posting guts on 4chan that's probably you. By all means, prove me wrong. But if you taste blood and decide it isn't for you, no shame in that. There's other paths to self-fulfillment. If you're not a fighter that's not a big deal. Most of us just train for fun.

Ok wait I just finished reading your post. I'll try to save you some time. You probably won't listen but I'll try. Nothing will justify your misspent past. You are going to have to decide to move on and live authentically.

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>>231090
Though I've kept silent, I haven't ignored this thread since I made it. The posters here gave me a lot to chew on. I of course am depressed, but there's a heavy side of extremely repressed aggression to go along with, which might actually be the root of said depression. Probably from my shittt home life. Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy doesn't sound nearly as bad as Chronic Traumatic Incelalopathy. I've lived life as a loser and even still I want to compensate for the past and steal back some kind of future for myself rather than cower in fear forever. Maybe since I'm braver now, I'll be able to train, spar, and fight better since I'm honest with myself about my mortality. All I've really got is grit and a sad sort of stoicism in me, though I do hope I have some talent, whether in striking power, cardio, reflexes, or innately superior kinesthetic learning rate and retention.

And yeah, I secretly want the recognition, and the riches and the bitches too. Every man wants that deep down even if he doesn't say it out loud. Since there's no hope of getting tight young hot pussy forever otherwise, I must succeed so I can gorge myself on pussy like a dog that's been starved lifelong only to be thrown into a room filled with infinite prime cut steak.

>>231166
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>>231322
People above seemed to sort of dog pile onto the idea that I don't care about the sport but I've never cared about any sport at all save for the vague idea I had in my head since I was a kid that fighting could be something I really truly care for. On the point of troubled past, my home life has always been shit and you all already know how my social life has gone. That anger has always simmered inside me below the surface, but I've always bit my tongue and held it back. I'd like a place where I can cut loose. In the past 5 years, the time in my kickboxing gym might've been the only time I was happy. I don't know what that guy means by living authentically but this might be my only real way of living authentically. I quit my shitty job and tomorrow's my last day, I'm looking at flights to run off to Thailand and try chasing the dream because I've spent the past decade rotting in my room, so I might as well show the world that I do exist and am worth something.

https://voca.ro/1n0j7q4FjZQ8

You got psyopped into thinking anybody gives a shit about fighters past a short highlight reel and then they go back to being broke nobodies

They are jesters jumping around for our amusement.. and you aspire to be like that because the TV and internet told you so! Lmao!

Sad. Many such cases!

>>231780
>this
Just go to college or get a blue-collar job to make some money OP. Bitches will come this way too and that seems to be what you really want. This way you don't get CTE for no reason.
Keep fighting as a hobby.

>>231780
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>>232067
I already went to college and got the fake and gay tech degree lrn2code meme paper, but of course the economy went to shit as soon as I graduated. I don't know if I have it in me to pivot to blue collar or even just other fields in general since I've been a loser all my life and the losses stack up to demoralize you over time. I don't have any actual skills other than drawing, some MMA, video editing, programming and being a cringelord. Brvtal stuff.

I might just follow through on the Thailand vacation because I could afford to stay for a while with my savings. Fight a few times if only for fun and so I have the experience, and maybe continue if I find I do have some special talent bestowed upon me from the heavens. What other prospects do I have?

no

mma it's for bums in general

>>230985 (OP)
Why do you fucking retards ask other fucking retards questions like this? Go to a gym. Practice the martial arts. See if you even like training as often and intensely as it takes to get decent. Most people do not like martial arts enough to be even a shitty local pro, much less a serious regional or national level competitor. Along the months or years that it takes you to figure it out, you’ll make friends, get in better shape, build confidence, and gain the other intangibles that most people take from the hobbies they enjoy. Then, around the time you get your BJJ blue belt, you’ll quit. You’ll tell all your idiot friends you “used to be a fighter,” and they will listen to your ice cold takes at Hooters on UFC fight nights like you’re Joe Rogan himself.

>>231165
No assclown, you sound like a little bitch who has never trained in his life. If someone taps your jaw your asshole would bleed.

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>>233007
Yeah, so I booked a flight and now we're doing the muay thai arc. I might rope after all this desu

>>234137
After your muay thai arc go stay at the Kodokan Institute and train judo. You can get through the full basic curriculum in a year and the have a cheap hostel for guests.

>>234148
Would the Nipponese visa issue not be a problem? You can only stay like 3 months as a filthy gaijin american. Plus it'd be more expensive. Maybe if I can find a type of remote income. Or I could try Dagestan if the gay war stops

>>234502
I've heard of people entering Japan to train on tourist visas and then applying for cultural visas to extend their stay once they can show they've been training a certain number of days per week. I don't know what that process looks like and I don't know if the Kodokan provides any assistance in getting that all figured out.
>Plus it'd be more expensive
~$946.54/month for hostel and tuition plus a one-time ~$55 membership fee if I'm reading all this correctly:
https://kdkjd.org/kodokan-hostel/
https://kdkjd.org/%e5%85%a5%e9%96%80%e6%89%8b%e7%b6%9a%e3%81%8d/

>>230985 (OP)
>be me
>have god genetics 99.75th percentile reach @ my height AND the no calves gene
>trained from a young age at the same gym that produced one of the goats of ufc before it was famous.
>also be me
>prime fighting age when ufc was in its infancy and you were lucky to be able to buy a 10 year old used toyota corolla with a year's pay
LOL it still pays like shit for most fighters. no regrets not pursuing combat sports as a career and keeping it to a hobby/self defense thing.

>>234596
I will look into it for the future. Perhaps judo will compliemnet my striking enough to make me a champion. Or I could always try to go to Dagestan, slavic chimpout war be damned. The training here is pretty good and the trainer even trained one of the best fighters in Thailand in the best, and has like 100 fights himself.
>>235165
Brvtal blackpill. Even one of the guys I met here said 20 is too old, let alone 24. I will do my best nevertheless and hope prior experience and familiarity combined with the grueling training, discipline, and technical instruction might bridge the gap if only somewhat. I am enjoying sparring here a lot. I have only gotten stoned twice and my buddy I met here and I are looking to cut that shit out in a few days so we can lock in on training fully

>>236487
>only gotten stoned twice
you're not gonnaa make it. give up and go home faggot

>>236487
>Even one of the guys I met here said 20 is too old, let alone 24.
Thai fighters have a reputation for getting too busted up to continue fighting past 19 or 20.

>>230985 (OP)
Just listened to your vocaroo.

Go to Mt. Vernon, IL and go to Pedigo Submission Fighting (PSF) headquarters. It's one of the premier submission grappling gyms in the world, and it's a lot closer than Thailand or Dagestan. They allow fighters to live and sleep in the gym, and they specialize in fucked up broken boys such as yourself.

You'll need a very strong grappling base to succeed in MMA, and PSF was founded by an MMA guy, so they can prepare you for that sport. IMHO striking is easier to add in after. Grappling takes more time to get familiar with, so start there. Also, frankly, grappling is more demoralizing when first starting out, so get through those fire and flames early and get it over with. You MUST go through this process in order to succeed.

>>236542
Update this thread when you're in Mt. Vernon.

>>236542
Either this or go with those CWS catch wrestling guys.
>>236544
He probably roped already kek

>>230985 (OP)
Go probin MMA? Probably too late yeah. I trained BJJ as a hobbyists at a very respectable MMA gym in my city and there were a lot of pro fighters there, some retired, some in PFL, one guy in the UFC currently, Bellator, etc. also amateurs of course, the head coach was a retired UFC fighter. What I learned was a lot of these guys would absolutely wreck dudes in the gym and they seemed like they were Hercules, and when you looked up their record on sherdog, it was more losses than wins. My point in this is, the talent pool for MMA is much deeper than most casuals like myself realize. But OP, if you want to just become more satisfied in life, have a purpose, motivation, etc, your goal shouldn’t be to be a pro MMA fighter, it should be to just train MMA, not even necessarily to fight on an amateur and pro level. Just training might give you what you’re looking for. From what Ive seen, the life of a professional MMA fighter isn’t something to be jealous of.

>>230985 (OP)
>But I fear I'll never be able to catch up to the ones who went all in from birth.
This is just your ego talking.
You want to be better than everyone else, when in fact you should only be striving to become better than you are now.
Every day you are better than your yesterday self is a victory.

If this is not enough for you, then maybe the problem isn't what you do, but the way your mind works. You will be perpetually looking for outside approval, but even when you do get it, it will never be enough.

This is the same reason why so many rockstars and other famous people ended up dying by OD. They couldn't cope with a life that's lower than their highest heights of attention by the crowds, so they used drugs to keep experiencing something similar.

All this is to say that you should first work on having a good dopamine baseline, and to begin by learning to derive happiness from within yourself, instead of others.

>>236685
That's basically why Rhonda Rousey crashed out of Olympic judo and the UFC. She was chasing titles and couldn't cope with not getting them.

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