Where are all of the yaoi hentai eroge? There’s basically nothing ever released that isn’t a visual novel- especially when you consider how many straight porn games come out every day. Imagine a David Cage game, but it’s a choose your own homoerotic gangbang.

Why is this such an untapped market? Do other gay guys not like jacking it to interactive porn?

Gay men and women into watching men touching dicks aren't particularly profitable

+ Less profitable because it's easy to go out and have loose sex with almost any gay man. Meanwhile straight men can't get laid and straight women need to worry about pregnancy, social standing, and being murdered. So yeah that's why there isn't more.

>>3033234
doubt this considering the number of gay furry animation shit there is, which is expensive

>>3033235
>furry
You answered your own doubts, you can't legally or ethically have sex with animals in most places. Degenerate fetish shit is overpaid in comms for a reason.

>>3033239
well yeah, a good portion paying for them are gay men as well, and they can’t fuck pokemon wrestler cat irl. however, even the more normal guys also scrambled to make porn and some animations of Lucas Lee, a generic looking bara anime dude. cooming to barashit is probably better than having sex with middle aged balding men who vastly outnumber “bara” like men irl

>>3033192 (OP)
The real answer to this regardless is that yaoi/BL is probably considered more degenerate than hetshit and seen as more risky, but yeah, it could be a potential untapped market considering how profitable BL and gay baiting can be. Fujos will be the ones to buy out these games in particular

>whines about vns
>wants a david cage "game"
this board is a joke

>>3033427
>bitches and squirts herself making up enemies in her demented little head
you're a joke

>>3033192 (OP)
I agree. I wish there's non-visual, non-gacha and non-grinding gay games. I want an action adventure games with minimal role-playing and more interactive sex.

every yaoi game is either:
long wind-up visual novel with 5 hours of story before any sex scenes
hardcore smut bara-only with rapid onset sex and weird fetishes like furry or scat
there is no inbetween

>>3035086
>long wind-up visual novel with 5 hours of story before any sex scenes
>hardcore smut bara-only with rapid onset sex and weird fetishes like furry or scat
It's over...the only redeeming gay games that I played were gay furries despite I hate furries and repulsed by it or het games with good-looking male characters and game mechanics. I guess it'll be long for actual games will be made.

>>3033192 (OP)
we just gotta make do with nu carnival for now I guess

>>3036732
Is that yaoi?

Alicesoft made a few gay porn games back in the early 2000s but I don't think there's any copies of them online

"Paradiso Guardian" seems promising but I haven't played it. It seems to be an action rpg with some sex scenes, and most importantly it's not a gatcha. Has someone played it? Is it good? I know beggars can't be choosers but still...

>>3036732
Nucarnival is hardly a game... I played it but dropped it after a while... The gameplay was really boring (turn based rpg battles that can be completed automatically) and the events were uselessly hard. The only redeeming feature of that game are the illustrations and outfit design, that were nice, and of course the sex scenes. They're quite good but unlocking them is a pain and they can be easily found online so I don't really recomend playing it...

>>3035086
What would the in between even look like? Sounds like you just want sex in 2.5 hours instead of 5 hours.

>>3033192 (OP)
There's Abaddon, Princess of the Damned

we need a dmc style game in which you do air combos on twinks and femboys by hitting them with your dicj

>>3039375
LMAO

>>3033192 (OP)
Time to game dev and make one anon.

>>3040704
unfortunately, everyone treats yaoi/gay media as a joke.
Or, they're quickly put off by how unsexy the anatomy of scene is and don't want to dissect it.

>>3040894
> Or, they're quickly put off by how unsexy the anatomy of scene is and don't want to dissect it.
Anatomy of the scene..?

>>3041669
I'll try to adapt Baritachi by Draw-Two as an example.

Writing for RPGs means writing player goals.
>Talk to Npc, Go to location, Defeat enemy, ect...
And that direction is woven into everything else
>Character introduction, Setting, Plot

It's easy to imagine Baritachi as an RPG because it starts out with a swordsman for hire that slays demons. He kills a demon. Someone tries to steal his sword while he's washing it's blood off.
Sexual hijinks ensue.

I like Draw-Two's work. They're generally around 50 pages. There's a nice balance of action and exposition. But there's a number of issues when adapting a comic like this into a game.

First of all, like most porn, you got a lot nameless characters. You gotta name them. You got to have formal introductions
>"By the way, call me... {NAME INPUT}"
Depending on the scope of the game it also helps to name towns, kingdoms, continents, even planets and planes of existence. It's just lazy world building otherwise.

Second, some of the exposition is in the form of the swordsman talking to himself. It's very common in comics for characters to voice opinions and stuff in caption boxes. But that's not really "the style" for RPGs because the expectation is to utilize NPCs.

>>3042093 (continued)
The third issue, related to that last part, is the fact that this story happens all in one place. In an English style script, scenes are divide by location. So this would all be one scene. But the French school of thought is to divide scenes by characters existing/entering, marking a change in conversation. "English & French" is just old school theater playwright terminology. I think it just means England had big stages, and France had big cast of characters.
Ideally, we'd have the swordsmen return to town after slaying a demon. Collect a bounty. Buy soap. Perhaps patterning a gameplay loop that would continue past the source material. It goes without saying you'll have to generate a lot more content to make an RPG experience.

Going past the source material might mean inventing personalities and backstories besides "gay and horny". A lot of people don't like thinking about what happens the morning after a one-night stand.
In this comic, the demon, who is manipulating the thief, conveniently shows up on it's own and is quickly dealt with. The intuitive logic for an RPG would be to find the demon's lair instead, and gradually build a bond between the swordsman and thief as they jump through hoops to get there.

Based on the handful of gay RPGs that I've played, anal intercourse between male party members is saved for the end. But whether that's rewarding or not depends on presentation. The swordsmen here is basically a top, so maybe he bottoms at the end. Not the most emotional character arc. Or maybe he was always eager to do it and was just repeatedly interrupted by {plot advancement}. So when it finally happens, it feels like an ending. Escaping the try-fail cycle with a success or at least something different.

>>3042094
I believe English and French scene construction is important to think about because an RPG is somewhere in the middle with a lot of characters and locations.

The French style requires you to come up with ways to move the characters in and out.
>Knock at the door. Delivery.
>Oh no, my cookies are burning! Gotta go!

The English style changes places as well as advances time.
>Jan 14. 20XX 7am, Hall of Justice
>Five Years Later
>Meanwhile
>Flashback.

The flow of time in an RPG tends to be really fuzzy.
Not the Persona and Atelier games; they're a life/dating Sim hybrid. They have a time management system. I digress.
Time skips are convenient for developing relationships between characters offscreen instantly. Without actually explaining how that happened.
>No. Fuck you!
>3 weeks later
>Fuck me! Yes!

It's nice to give things time to happen in a natural way. But a French scene can also force characters to act out of the ordinary and in entertaining ways.
>"I'm being followed. Pretend to be my boyfriend."
>"What?"
>"Kiss me...NOW!"

>>3042099
Thank you for the thoughtful discussion anon. I'm curious if there are hentai games that work within these constraints/subvert them, since you'd think most of the principles could be applied to yaoi games.

>>3042118
Not all games have a narrative. There's lots of porn games that are just eye candy.
>Walk into ogre
>Trigger fucked by ogre animation.

Games like that don't have a need for meaningful dialogue. Maybe you're familiar with the Humplex "Monthly Manfuls" flash games by Humbuged. There was no logic to the interactive choices. "Say: Hello" or "Touch: Bicep" meant the difference of a subject wearing a leopard print bikini or going commando.
The OCs with the most personality were the ones from Humbuged's "Keric Komplex". But he never completed that story arc pasted Chapter 3.
Gay games are cursed like that.

I think it's a skill issue. I think most people can transcribe basic character information into a scene. But beyond that, they don't know how to develop a character through sexapades.
I know it sounds absurd to ask how getting tentacle raped by a plant changes a character's relationship with their boyfriend. But that's narrative design.
Because maybe it's overlapping with a similar incident where he was tied up and people failed to act.
>"I won't fail you this time. Not again."
> *fails* "I fucked up. I'm sorry. You must think I'm useless."

I also think people form rigid character concepts in their head. So their characters are invulnerable power fantasies. They don't have childhoods. They don't have destinies. They don't have flaws or weakness. Or if they do, it's this forbidden secret that only top patreons are allowed to know, and it's not meant to be used as writing material.

>Writer: Just between us, he can't swim. But that's never an issue.
>Consultant: So just move the story to water so it can be.
>Writer: How dare you! Don't you ever try to depower my character again.

Or it can be the other way. Where a character is meant to be a loser and the writer is violently opposed to giving them any endearing qualities.
>Consultant: What if...
>Writer: He was made to suffer! He deserves nothing! Do not sympathize. Do not redeem.

With AI, I expected a flood of games with generated art. A bunch of communites were banning it a head of a "wave" that never happened.

The ai art thread here is like 2 people.

>>3042147
Narratives are nice. I think the reason I hate most VNs is that they're meet n' greet snorefests.

The Player character goes somewhere: college, a campsite, a hotel/inn, a pub, a spa. Conveniently all these characters are there. And it's just a writing exercise in how many ways you can say "hello".

>>3042147
Could a game like this be adapted into yaoi sex game?
https://sigmasuccour.itch.io/false-narrative

>>3043274
Why is agdg here lmaooo

maybe a remake of that rub rabbits ds game but gay? that would be nice, that was one of the first DS games I've ever played but was too young to realize it was some mature touch game

>>3043274
I could absolutely go for a Mugen Train Arc that develops characters through a series of vignettes.

In Demon Slayer they use a steam engine train as a stage for the fire and water fighting styles.
Get it? Fire and water make steam.

>>3043342
I don't have any ideas for character dynamics, but you could do some meta-story about "steam".

Speaking of steam, there's a bunch of gay VNs that showed up out of nowhere on it in the last couple years.

>>3043342
>>3043343
>>3042094
I feel like this warrants further exploration.

Indeed. By definition Y.A.O.I. is a vignette itself. In mangas, caption boxes often convey the p.o.v character's internal thoughts. Sometimes in the same panel as a thought bubble.
>[My mind was saying no, but my body was saying yes]
>{No!}
>"Yes!"
These are internal and visceral experiences. Which means no other characters can communicate that information unless they're psychic. So it's not an ideal format for a game, particularly rpgs.
The character could be retelling the event to someone as a flashback. A frame story like that requires a listener and an reason to share.
But that too is bad form for a video game. Many games have done it, of course. It's just, typically, gameplay is framed in the present moment.

You could absolutely have sex scenes in a game as found footage. A sex tape, for example. But it probably wouldn't be interactive. Maybe if you're adjusting the tracking on an old VHS player? Or some fantasy logic that lets you step into the TV.
>>3043274
I was just thinking, the npcs don't tell you what kind of games this developer is making. But they could be really bad porn games. In which case, you wouldn't need character dynamics to justify the sex.

>>3043360
Too bad 99% of WEGs are shit.

>>3043592
As a scene writing exercise, I feel like that's cheating. A bit.
Any scene can be used to frame a flashback, daydream, or whatever.

>A trip to the grocery store
>"Oh shit, I know that guy!" *Flashback*
>Hide behind the deli counter
>"Look at that bulge!" *Fantasize*
>Hide behind DVD Rack
>"Wait. There's a Bara Barge IV?! *Porno cast trailer*

It's all hypodiegetic. Scenes within scenes.
Anyone checking out "A trip to the store" might be disappointed nothing actually happens at the store. You know?

Does anyone have the link to the Skiff with all the Nu Carnival sex scenes? Looks like the main one got taken down.

>>3044345
I cant find it either both Skiff and Notion were taken down and I couldn't save their email in time.

>>3044345
>>3044424
Right when they released the new Quincy. Fuck this straight earth

>>3044424
>>3044443
Damn feels fuckin bad man, hopefully someone will have something up again soon

https://www.hichicgames.com/home

This is coming this year, apparently. Will have an English translation too. The artwork looks pretty good.

>>3044543
the knight looks like laios hot

>>3044444
>Please wait a while before making a post

>>3044345
https://mega.nz/folder/iUciCSJa#fP6psYcVnuzmmCchEdI6gA

>>3044648
My hero thanks

>>3043360
It's because no one fucking bothered to translate them officially until like 2020

>>3039355
I love that game, it's also at the same time the only full bisexual game and sweet home parody I know. I heard something about a sequel a long ago. I hope it keeps the mm options. Also the possibility of censor het scenes since the censor of gay explicit scenes is already there would be nice.

>>3033192 (OP)
Cloud Meadow is pretty good
you can play as a cute farmboy who rails and gets railed by monster men, most of them humanlike

>>3038815
>AI fodder looking character art
>pixel metroidvania

What does the nsfw content look like cause this doesn't look great.

I remember there was a herding game inspired on brokeback mountain with some neat pixel art. Wasn't the most enticing but had some memories of it. Anyone have played it here?

>>3045678
>they don't know

>>3044648
file deleted, is there any chance of a re-upload?

>>3045798
What is it anon? Is cloud meadow cancelled? is the male protag actually trans? Tell me dude tell me

>>3045767
but it's so hot when your heart is beating fast after winning the fight and then you start slurping your opponent's cock
like
YEAH THAT COCK IS MINE BABE

>>3044648
Link is down, can we get a re-upload please ?

>>3046776
How does it look though, is it just a tiny pixel animation?

>>3045767
that game is probably 6 years old
>>3046614
The game is like 12 years old. Formerly "Breeding Season" And it's still not complete.

The definition of vaporware.

I know they say there's nothing new under the sun. But there's literally been no new games here in forever.

>>3042173
I've only seen a few hentai games made with AI graphics

anyone else play paradise yet? saw the cg pics uploaded on mrm. its on steam but you have to download the 18+ stuff separately. Its a VN but if youre into noncon and the like check it out
https://myreadingmanga.info/pil-slash-paradise-uncensored/

Making an eroge is easy. The only requirement for it is to have sex scenes. Problem is the amount of games, mostly straight, that have sex after losing whatever gameplay mechanic the game is based around. Thus optimal gameplay means avoiding sex and like, what the fuck do you think we are here for? Then there's an amount of devs (and players) that insist that characters having sex with literally anyone besides the main character on any context counts as NTR.
Devs that feature sex as reward for good gameplay are one step above, but still far beyond the ones that make sex directly part of the gameplay. Preferably if it isn't just "break free from sex" (I'll never forgive Monster Girl Quest for this, and a few other things)
Let's brainstorm a little, how do you imagine (non-lethal) sexual combat between men? If it's turn-based (mostly to make it mechanically complex but still giving the player room to think), I would say something like different targetable body parts (like Fallout to give an example) that react different when touched, the ability to show off certain parts to mesmerize the opponent, breaths to avoid cumming, clench the ass with various intents. How does cumming (and in what location) affect if one or the other is the winner? Cumming handsfree is different from getting a handjob is different from doing it inside an ass and one or the other could be the dominant one that made it this way.

>>3047067
>https://myreadingmanga.info/team-lv-266-paradiso-guardian/
have a look

>>3047255
It's not a bl game by LISA the Painful has a side mission where you work as a gay prostitute that actually handles sex as an rpg combat mechanic pretty well.

>>3046614
>is the male protag actually trans
wdym you can see his penis
what is it with this place and the tranny obsession

Does anyone have the skiff backup link

>>3047963
Heres the link to the backup but probably wont work. From what I've found apparently Skiff shut down so both archives are gone

https://wild-pedestrian-7f3.notion.site/NC-Archive-v2-7334e1c3634c44eba634209007cce1af

>>3047120
I only played Matsuda's route cause it's the only one I was interested in. Sex scenes are hot, story is whatever.

>>3042093
Tell me more, senpai.
How should I begin my yaoi isekai rpg dream game?

>>3048154
based, he's the only character who is atteactive and the sex scenes for him are good, his voice actor was great too. Its worth playing all the routes if you're interested in the different bad ends sexo scenes and the rest of the story. Unfortunately you have to play matsuda and mitsugi route and get the good ends to unlock takaras route. If you like light gore and rape this is pretty good, its hard to find many BL or Yaoi games sadly, especially ones that aren't VNs

>>3049170
>light gore
how light

>>3050388
Scrolled trough the images and I just saw someone get they neck sliced.

>>3038815
>Paradiso Guardian
Trying it out now. The gameplay feels really solid for porn game standards.

>>3050579
>>3050388
there's a cannibal aspect, some characters killing others with knives and axes, but you have to do multiple routes to see them and its not overly detailed. so fairly light

>>3050388
In one of the bad ends there's Takra getting his eyes pierced out, but it's really not that gorey due to the art being mid and that's the only one I can really think of that they show.

>>3050580
only porn game I personally enjoyed
violence and sex go well together

>>3050592
kinda like the art 2beeh

>>3050592
my interest is peaked

I'm once again here to tell people about the Yaoi Game Jam on itch at the end of the month.

>>3050818
neat, will check it out

Any updates if ever the uploader of the nu carnival skiff has an alternative?

>>3050886
I haven't found anything and I lost the Yiff that they sent it in

>>3051169
I mean 4chan Not Yiff

anyone try this game yet? is it good?

>>3051272
name?

>>3051433
mister versatile. found it on steam. if you buy it let us know if it's good

>>3050818
can I make shoot the tranny that tries to ruin a gay couple dating?

The "bury your gays" trope has been around for 100 years now. The Hays Code only allowed gay characters be depicted as morally wicked, or punished, and otherwise be written as expendable.

Subverting this is "preserve your gays". In which gay characters have plot armor and can't die. However without trope awareness, the constant violence (which the character survives) looks more and more like a hate crime than "progressive writing". Their suffering is perpetuated.

>>3052259
Sometimes that violence is genre appropriate. Bara, for example, is a narrative about a character "blossoming" into their sexuality. Bara being Japanese for rose. Roses have thorns and narratives need conflict. If being gay wasn't a problem, then a story about a guy realizing he is gay would be about as interesting as a pothead seeing something profound in the mundane.

While the name "Romance" might conjure sex positive thoughts. It's appeal, and true hallmark, are the extra-ordinary lives in which the characters live.
Blackmail and rape don't happen to everyone, but they are intriguing. That's why some people love to play the victim and find an identity in their trauma.

>>3052259
>>3052263
What are you even going on about and what are those images?

>>3044648
>https://mega.nz/folder/iUciCSJa#fP6psYcVnuzmmCchEdI6gA

Link is down sadly. Is there another link?

maybe it's just me as I prefer the guy in a game to be gay by being implied as gay instead of being straight up identified as one by cliche flags etc

>>3052840
Same here, my man, but we are currently in the YAOI SEX GAMES thread, I think a dick in a guy's ass is closer to a cliche flag than an implication.

Every guy on screen doesn't have to be gay. Or fuckable. Sometimes gay characters have to be rejected and experience unrequited love.

And not ever gay character is wearing pride badge.
And not every gay character is into butt stuff
>muh realism.

New game with a decent and pretty art style and sex cgs

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1856210/The_Frozen_Kingdom/

does it exist?

>>3052929
It's an erotic novel set in a video game world, I believe. The author, CB Archer, usually does his own cover illustrations, but used Rpg Maker resources for this one. Outside of the character portraits and a questionable world map, I see no evidence he ever made anything playable.

I'm actually surprised nobody mentioned Strange Flesh in here. It's a small game but definitely very nice.

Gay games I'm aware of that aren't furry or a VN:
Clashing Rods: Fervent Frotting
You're a demon and have sex combat with other demons - as well as an angel - via frotting. Think there's only 4 opponents, so there's not much, but there's a certain novelty to it. Only free game on this list that has finished development.

Lust Hunter Gay Edition
Something I've been meaning to play, but haven't yet. Supposed to be an RPG card battler.

The Family's Curse and also Grizzly Grove are both sandbox twine games. Not sure if you'd consider them to be VNs or not

Incubus Realms - Escapism
A point and click adventure game that's been in development for 4 years and is still in alpha. I honestly thought it was a dead game but it got an update in May of this year.


>>3050818
There's also a Bara Fever Fest game jam ongoing on itch at the moment - if you're into that

I found some browser games similar to the Humplex Manfuls on Itch. But now I can't find them again.

Norn's Dine releasing in 2024. A new yaoi romance/sex game.

New preview with illustrations and CGs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf1YyUg60q8

Looks insanely hot, all the characters look attractive as fuck.

>>3054713

Will be available in English, and it's also planned to release on Steam.

>>3054714
keep us posted, didnt see a release date but looks great

>>3054713
Why does bara stuff always have a lion furry?
>>3054714
>hot character has pit scenes
Nice.

>>3054714
Great!

>>3054714
the character's too bishi for me, not a gachi (or what you call in the west "bara").

>>3055847
nobody cares

>>3055851
nta, I do

>>3055851
true

>>3055857
nobody cares roastie

>>3055847
>(or what you call in the west "bara")
ywnbj
gachi muchi is a newer subgenre and refers to chubby muscle bros instead of the average-realistic bodytypes of regular bara

>>3055847
That's too bishi for you? Just admit you have an ugly bastard fetish.

>>3042173
I'm seeing a lot of hentai games using AI-generated images. But there's nothing out there for gay games.

Even pixiv's category for AI-generated gay images is a surprisingly scarce 15 pages or so, with 90% of it being fanart of popular characters. Not a lot of OCs out there.

If you download HF patch for Koikatsu party you can give the girls dicks

And there's Heat Anthro romance simulator if u want furries

Do you tolerate kemonomimi? Just tails and ears, not actual full-on furry.

>>3056116
>If you download HF patch for Koikatsu party you can give the girls dicks
Do they still get fucked in an invisible vagina or does it have anal and frotting stuff

>>3057565
I like kemonomimi, especially if there's a point to it like their characterization or lore

I'm going to recommend Lust Odyssey and Male Hunter's Daily Adventure

>>3060350
Are they games or visual novels?

>>3060350
he looks dead inside. it's a bad idea drawing nose like that

>>3060350
Lust Odyssey is a great game, with lots of really humiliating and submissive content for the MC. I was surprised by how good it was.

>>3060149
I've heard bad things about this vn, is it worthwhile?

The bloodborne spoof ok itchio is kinda nice

>>3061397
the vn is old, I mean OLD. so it's cg backgrounds are outdated to funny levels. but the voice acting, story, routes and 2d art hold up imo. the game is really fun and worth checking out imo

*Sigh*
Another yaoi jam full of VN entries

Anyone else playing Hunky City?

>>3061660
same ugly arab dude copy pasted 6 times

>>3061869
>All the previews are patreon-only
I will not be trying your game since I can't even see what it looks like.. Don't market a game with no previews, the only thing it does is guarantee more people will torrent it desu.

>>3061645
Tell us your riveting idea for action rpg anal sex.

>>3035086
first one is peak, i want to know all about the fucked up world building and mentally disturbed characters before they start frotting

>>3063482
if you're a girl maybe

>>3062455
The action RPG is a mix of Zelda 2 and this http://baragamer.com/2013/08/10/bara-game-see-no-evil/
A bit of interactive "cutscenes" like this
http://tayferret.com/roux.php

The gay game landscape is looking bleak.

The two big name RPGs were End of Dreams and Chin Chin Quest.
To be fair, Funa (creator of ChinChin Quest) has developed a lot of mini games over the last 5-6 years. And lots if illustrations. But there's not a lot of progress being made on Chin Chin Quest 3.

At the start of this year he began releasing Quest 3 in parts on this Fanbox. It's up to part 5 right now, which doesn't amount to much. Compared to the first 2 it's barely a game, and sorta meandering like he's making it up as he goes.

>>3063564
Do people actually like porn rpgs? I don't get the novelty, if I have to do a bunch of work to get my dick hard between teases I end up losing interest.

>>3063564
To recap, the first 2 games were basically an isekai fantasy world. 2 Quests related to 2 wishes granted by the genie character; leaving the 3rd wish yet to be asked.

But Quest 3 starts out on modern earth, as a sort of reverse isekai plot. With the Swordsmen from the previous games appearing in (Japan?). The wish granting desire genie from the previous games is missing. So it's a mystery how the swordsmen appeared in this other world, but there's some kind of magical leak. There's a street drug going around turning guys into nymphomaniacs who meet up to fuck in a park at night. The drugs end up being concentrated magic that makes them horny then violent. It's connected to the missing genie somehow.

I think in part 4, they visit the demon world, and similar to the park in the Human World, there's a "Pleasure Forest/Ruins" where demons go for kicks, but they come back more aggressive. I think the battle system is supposed to open up here but it's just a W.I.P. with nothing implemented. Besides taking out enemy HP, they have a desire gauge you can "break" using sexy skills. They meet this asshole dragon-man at this make-out point (or whatever you call it), but his powers don't work on the party because they're protected by the genie I guess. So he leaves.
Then they go to a "Heaven world" and talk to God. Yes. Because genies work for god apparently. Don't ask me about the cosmology, I have no idea how any of this works. My impression is that it's similar to Dragon Ball Z's universe with some Christian-like inspiration, but it's hard to tell until I see more. The world building is kind of rough and the narrative up to this point is hard to follow.

Anyways, the dragon-man was some kind of desire devourer. Or a minion/aspect of this ancient entity that's supposed to be sealed away in the Fantasy World. But he's breaking free. That's all I know.

>>3063565
It's all nuanced and subjective. I don't think it has anything to do with porn, but instead, it's the psychological engagement of RPGs compared to Visual Novel narratives.

You can see yourself in an RPG world, because you're running around in the context of open public-spaces and there's internal logic that could support you there whether you're conscious of that "sense" or not. While VNs follow much closer to a character's daily schedule and social life. A workplace and social clique is a smaller private affair you can only observe.
It's sounds corny, but some authors call this "psychic distance"

I don't need to explain how arousal is a natural sensation that porn appeals to. You get it. We all get it.
It's harder to explain the sense of freedom and liberty that rpgs offer. Or even what makes it engaging in the first place. Except that it's sorta intuitive as a survival instinct.
I would just call it immersion, but what you are immersed in is...is this holistic matrix of context entertained by your imagination. Society and civilization in general are also similar set of rules which we have presumably evolved and conformed our nature to. You see?

Even women find yaoi appealing because because they can project themselves into intimate male relationships free of courtship rituals. That relationship is just another dominion to revel in.

>>3063748
spot on. vn doesn't give the same experience as rpg where you're seeing what you're doing, while vn, you just pick a choice.

If anyone could make SHOTAxMONSTERS but with, you know, a subject matter different from the one mentioned in the title. It is some genuinely good gameplay.

>>3064550
Pedofile

>>3064551
I said I wanted it without the shotas

>>3064552
You played a shota game, you’re a pdfile.

Daily reminder that "shotacon" is a transliteration of "short-eyes complex"; which is prison slang for child molester. Child molesters are not pedophiles in the traditional sense of an abnormal fondness for neonatal qualities. They simply assert dominance and leverage their authority to alleviate feelings of insecurity.
That makes short-eyes the worst kind of human being, in prison. They're sociopaths that get off by holding people down. Possibly the force that creates criminal activity in the first place; like the white collar class exploiting the poor to keep them poor.
It is completely opposite from Lolita Complex, where the child is the corrupt manipulator, asking sexual favors from the adult who willing debases themselves by giving in.

As far as I'm aware, SHOTAxMONSTERS isn't categorically "shota" because there is no adult in the narrative. It is willful genre blindness by dumb english communities that don't actually read the narratives and only associate the name with the pictures. As if "shota" means "boy". Which is also "short sighted". If only we categorized media by demographics instead of contents. We don't. Unless you live in China. Where they ban the use of 2nd Person narration in adult fiction because it implies the the reader is content, and therefore potentially involving a child. Therefore "absolutely" child porn.

There used to be an /ss/ manga image that was regularly posted a long long time ago when you could post anything. With a woman (a teacher I think) rimming a boy's asshole. Captioned was either a satire or bad faith quote of some politician saying the student should be punished for being sexually experienced. Either advocating to violate human-rights, or just characterizing the politician as an incel cuck like, "It should have been me".

>>3064553
not really. I'm self-insert myself as the shota because that's how I feel, tiny and smoll.

I know that I shouldn't expect that much from games that often made by amateurs with nonexistent budget, but from playing ero RPGs, (including some furry, some straight), they frequently fall into the same pitfalls
>only one player character at the time
I know this is to put the character as central focus, but it's very limiting for gameplay. Battles for one have to be very limited because it's very tedious when 3 enemies gang up on 1 person, over and over again.
>point-build system
Often paired with the above, I know it's inspired by various old CRPGs, but those did it to allow for different builds across many playthroughs, and eroges don't tend to have that much variety (inside or outside of battle) to make it meaningfully different. You can often tell devs can't into balance so they leave that job to the players.
>have ALL the fetishes
Goo, tentacles, corruption, piss, it's like a legal requirement.
Because devs insist on all enemies to be equaly capable of engaging in lewd activities, devs will either make a strangely limited enemy variety, or effectively engage in zoophilia. You don't have to seduce that wild dog and it doesn't have to rape you either.
>default graphical assets
lol. lmao. (license-free music tends to be fine though)

What else?

>>3064644
>have ALL the fetishes
this just waters down the quality of the rest desu, unless it's a multi-writer thing like CoC

>>3064644
I know Robin Morningwood exists but I want a game like the original YagWorld Adventure without the grinding stuff to extend game hours and unlock items.
https://www.comdotgame.com/play/yag-worlds-adventure-game

>>3064825
This is actually quite nice. But it's short, you can do everything within an hour. How do you extend it without just making a WORDSWORDSWORDS VN or making an incredibly exponential "first screen has 3 choices, each which has 3 choices, each which has 3 choices..."?

>>3065260
puzzles, item chains that you need to unlock by going back and fro, and (animated) sex scenes. maybe some dialogs for the lore. no stats grinding and heavily reliant on texts.

for your consideration:
https://itch.io/jam/barajam-2024

>>3065610
That banner is repulsive. Mutts can't make good bara.

>>3063748
I need more dev-talk like this.

Lately I've been on a kick about "vulnerability". People don't like to say they're attracted or aroused by it. But it's a thing our brains pay attention to.
It's subjective too. One person might think someone is really opening up to them, but for the other person it's just how you say hello. lol.

>>3066690
There's also a social context. When reading a character's thoughts it should be understood that they are thinking to themselves. It's revealing characterization but in a non-social context.

And then some games go in the completely opposite direction. Where it's 2 characters talking in a roundabout way, hinting that one character is gay. But they don't just say "You're gay." they say something like "You care for him, a lot."
And there's always the interpretation that it's just a platonic friendship.

>>3066741
>But they don't just say "You're gay." they say something like "You care for him, a lot."
I absolutely despise this trope.

What's the general audience size for what would essentially/literally be a genderswapped version of Violated Heroine? Not exactly to 1:1 accuracy, but I can imagine it being much more possible to recreate a gay remix of that, even with my crude scripting skills. Plus it'd be an easier horny gap to cross than my other ideas like golfing or an FPS.

>>3067163
Not nearly as popular for a male trap or bara audience and completely nonexistent for anything that'd appeal to fujoshi. If you're looking to make much of anything off of it I wouldn't hold your breath, rpgmaker porn is outdated as shit.

>>3067163
it's fine as long as grinding stat is optional. I hate grinding.

>>3067163
Most games are 1-player

>>3065610
>that woke ass banner
it;s over

I'd like to make a sandbox-ish, corruption-themed gay game, where money's at a premium and you've got to do whatever you can to keep your head afloat. A pure run (with optional romances) would be difficult but possible, but you can also take shortcuts to get easier sleaze money at the cost of gradually corrupting yourself into an undignified, debauched, feminised slut. Programming it isn't much of a problem, but my writing probably isn't that stimulating, and artists are very expensive.

>>3067358
Hire one on sales %

I'm suck at programming but ok at creating plots and drawing/animating frame by frame

>>3068525
Hire progrmamer

>>3069901
I prefer collab over hiring.

All the best gay/yaoi devs make porn VNs cause they know that guys don't want to have to slog through hours of bad gameplay mechanics just to fuck. In VNs you do nothing but talk to characters, and fuck em. Not like some fujo crap where you wine and dine a bishonen twink for hours just hold their hand.

>>3033192 (OP)
I actually have some interest in game development as a hobby. What kind of "sex games" are you interested in?

Something involved like Rance? Something where you play games to unlock scenes like HunniePop? A "You fail, you get porn" type game like Mario or Flappy Bird but with smut? Princess Maker but horny boys? Something else?

The best kind of Yaoi sex game wouldn't be one...it'd be an ecchi game instead. Console ecchi series for straight guys like Senran Kagura and DoA actually have to focus on gameplay, and of course add tons of fanservice. I'd want a game like that but with hot guys.

>>3033192 (OP)
Nucani is pretty much that, no?

>>3070370
Not OP. But at this point I'll take low effort RPG Maker games made with the sample maps and default graphics.

Seriously, go to any site and click on 'games'. There's nothing new!

>>3070413
Those kinds of games pop up on itch from time to time. But they're kind of painful.

It's not available anymore, but there was one called "The Yaoi Posters".
Basically the default actors Reid and Gale explore the sample maps picking up "Yaoi Posters" for "The Yaoi Master" because they're artifacts of power needed to protect the city from a monster invasion...or something.

It was a legit RPG campaign, but they shoehorned in "yaoi" and rude sexual language into every scene. Not very sexy. The pacing was terrible! One of the first "posters" is in the back of a mine. Which is 5-6 maps deep, with bats (birds), and a goblin "boss", and all you do is spam "attack". People could have easily dropped the game out of sheer boredom.

Then Reid delivers his backstory. How he was part of a -- a gang? a drug cartel? idk -- and it was in that mine they were going to rape him or something. But then monsters killed them. But The Yaoi Master rescued Reid. And then Reid just simped for him until he could suck him off.

So then they assume the Yaoi Posters are wherever the Yaoi Master fucked a femboi. Everytime they find a poster they speculate how it went down.
>In Fire Cave
>"I bet it was hot"
9_9

I never saw a completed version of the game. So what I describe could have been revised at some point.

>>3070587
please reconsider these
>>3064825
>>3065406
>>3063513
http://townseed.ca/bigfingers/SNE/sne.html

m

>>3072219
m?

With all these AI tools around it's never been easier to make a game. But development has never been deader. What's missing?

>>3075926
I'm not sure there's much of a market for gay games. Every time I think about it, there's just no decent hook like there is for straight games. VN sex scenes aren't that titillating, the corruption angle doesn't really work for men unless you're corrupting a straight guy into gayness, loss of purity doesn't really work for men. All you're left with is animated scenes (with some text maybe) that aren't nearly as interesting as real porn. Maybe I'm just missing something here.

Why would it be any different than a manga or hentai series? I imagine developing games is like making memes for fun. There's no market for memes.
But I suppose economic hardship can make people simp for cash. Maslow's hierarchy of needs puts creativity at the top after meeting survival and security needs.

>>3075927
I think the Humplex game mechanic is much appealing for gays compared to too much investment on plots buildup.
https://www.humplex.com/2008/05/humrcade.html
It's just that a little interactivity like the masturbation game series will add on values especially everyone are on mobile phones now.

>>3075958
But he never finishing his story, and nobody tried replicating it, except as parodies.

>>3075958
>It's just that a little interactivity like the masturbation game series will add on values especially everyone are on mobile phones now.
This reminds me that Moero Chronicle has a mechanic where after defeating enemies under certain conditions you can rub their PNG bodies (with the Vita touchscreen on the original release or just mouse on PC), with certain areas being more erogenous. Boss battles lets you target certain body parts so that clothes fall off.
The rest of the gameplay is just dungeon crawler, but nothing special.
Maybe a gay game could copy on something of this.

>>3061660
I'm more interested in Dead Dating. Is there any torrent of it from somewhere?

>>3055301
that's a tiger
there's also a wolf in there
japs have liked kemono(their furry equivalent) shit since time immemorial
hell even one of the most celebrated gay vn dating sims that came from there was a collaboration people from 2channel with a full anthro cast.

>>3076240
I just assume Japan is racist. And lions are "African"

>>3076240
>hell even one of the most celebrated gay vn dating sims that came from there was a collaboration people from 2channel with a full anthro cast.
Uhhhhh Morenatsu or did they make another more recent one? Like yeah it's influential but I didn't think of it as reaching past the furry weeb population.

>>3076638
>furry
>weeb
I mean, who do think is the target audience for this.
Morenatsu exposed a lot of kemono doujinshi tropes to the gay VN sphere that are still seen to this day so yeah that's influential enough I'd say, it is the japs Katawa Shoujo a degree

hm

Stop phantom bumping this thread and create a new one.

>>3078026
there's a prize if the thread could lasts 5 years.

>5 years later
You STILL haven't finished your Rpg Maker project.

it's Renpy tho

>>3035086
Realest shit ever

>>3050818
>We've revolved around the sun once more. Although this place is dead, I have returned to do my civic duty and inform anyone that might be interest of the Yaoi Jam later this month.

>>3079061
does it?

>>3079111
Does it what?

Here is the link for yaoi jam if anyone is interest.

https://itch.io/jam/yaoi-game-jam-2025

The guy who make uncle office just drop a release date while changing the description to say that there will be no sex in it, all that without making any other annoucement elsewhere that the game has no porn anymore.

When someone saw it and ask him about it in PM on twitter, he says that he is trying a new model and a bold attemps....and that he may post porn on twitter from time to time for people who want it.

I wonder how many people will buy thinking that there is porn or that the porn will be add later like in the first game and just buy the game because for years he says that there will be day one.

>>3079184
Lame I was looking forward to it. Who tf wants to play a dating sim if there's no porn. I want my character to bottom for virtual bears ffs.

>>3060149
I will forever mourn that Lamento doesn't have a combat system. I totally wanted interactivity in the fight scenes while reading. I'm not even talking about a full-blown RPG, maybe some minigame system like in Danganronpa.

Does anyone remember End of Dreams by Konohanaya years ago? He recently announced on twitter he's finally returning to complete chapter 3.

>>3080014
link? and I thought the author/game dev was a girl? if he's a dude, I'm glad about it.

>>3080059
https://xcancel.com/Konohanaya/status/1939342869774659784
oh you're right it's a girl (says so in the pixiv page), i had no idea
she also linked ch1 and ch2 on the post, for everyone who wants to play it

>>3080065
will she able to finish it? I know she's chinese despite the Japan-inspired username.
https://kbizoom.com/china-gay-novel-arrests/
https://www.tonboriday.com/2025/07/china-cracks-down-lgbt.html

>>3080066
>gay shit gets you arrested in china
whut? isn't danmei super fucking popular there?

>>3080085
My understanding of China is that arguably nothing is legal when you get down to it and just about everyone is committing some kind of nebulous crime at all times. Anytime these kinds of big sweeps or purges occur, just assume that the state police had a slow quarter and needed to meet their quota, so [insert group] were rounded up and charged.

Surprised nobody's mentioned Degrees Of Lewdity, it's a city-wide sandbox where you can do all kinds of shit, do regular jobs, be a prostitute or a stripper, get abducted by dudes and monsters. You can only really be a bottom, but that shouldn't be a problem since this board is only full of gaping faggots anyways.

Well, most games that are made with the intention of being BL are made for fujoshis, not so much for gay men. With this range of ideas, it is very easy to think that they are looking to attract a female audience that can generate more income (excuse the redundancy) than homosexuals. In my opinion, this is a range of thinking.

>>3080207
Last I played the sex minigame was still kind of shit and animations didn't map on to what was being described half the time.

>>3080207
I got a life you know. this board is slow

>>3080212
Let me know what porn games you've been playing that have set your standards so high, by all means please.

>>3070413
You're not going to find RPGs by following game jams.

Any recommendations for games similar to Robin Morningwood? I’m not even that big of a fan of bara, but for some reason I had a blast with it despite it being fairly grindy.

>>3080260
>most porn games are shit, so you should just accept the slop and have low standards
lol

>>3080491
Sorry, I'm a little confused. Why didn't you post a game, and why did you quote something no one said?

>>3080511
Why are you calling it a quote if you know it's not?
Are you a bad liar? Or stupid?

>>3080666
So if it's not, are YOU saying we should all accept slop and have low standards? Because again, all I said was since you seem to be so above all this wretched slop we're all wallowing in down here, maybe give us some kind of recommendation instead of just bitching about how everything is slop like a fucking whiny mongoloid.

I do guess we are fuck thanks to what itcho did with any game with nsfw & r18 tags.