>Dubs translates "lolicon" as "pedophile"
>>279624851 (OP)Finally
They're appealing to my fetish
>>279624851 (OP)>dubs????????????
>>279624851 (OP)>Dub translates lolicon as Humbert Humbert
>>279624851 (OP)you scared of your own reflection, nonce?
Those anons who have a fetish for being called a pedo are the most weird ones.
>pedo outs himself as a dubsfaggot
i wonder which personality trait is truly worse
are they wrong?
Explain to me why lolicons are not pedophiles?
>>279625050>>279625087>>279625485Kill yourselves, retarded tourists.
>>279624851 (OP)Well in the 2d dimension is accurate because they are 2d children.
But it changes in the 3d dimension since lolicon is referred to people atracted to 2d lolis and pedophile atracted to 3dpd
>>279624851 (OP)>OP makes thread about watching dubs>>279626158It's a slang term for 2D and 3D pedophilia. The 2D form is used more often among anime and manga otaku for obvious reasons.
>>279624851 (OP)It's terrible when they mistranslate things like this, it's supposed to be "hebephile"
>>279625485Easy. If you fap to animated gay porn, you're not gay. They're not real. It's a victimless crime.
>>279626275You will never gonna heard lolicon in 3d pedo websites. Those guys dont give a fuck about chinese cartoons. The only ones that used the slang are weebs to refer to 2d girls
>>279626417Lolita Express.
>>279626031technically you're the tourist
moot hated lolifags
>>279626454Lolita in 3d refers to the Russian novel, the term lolita is to describe an hebe promiscuos girl.
Loli refers to 2d, you rarely are gonna see pedos using the word loli it is common for them use lolita. Again they dont use the word lolicon to refer to themselves is exclusive to weebs and 2d.
>>279626483>implying anyone ever gave a shit about what m00t thought, ever
>>279624851 (OP)Then what is the specific term japs us for it?
>>279626680literally lolicon
>>279624851 (OP)I don't mind this. There's nothing more exciting than when a loli calls you a pedo.
>>279624851 (OP)>Dubskill yourself
>translates "lolicon" as "pedophile"This is an accurate translation
Anyways, Arisu sexo
>>279626417Yeah because they're speaking English. That's also why English subtitles don't use the Japanese word ロリコン and instead translate it to "pedophile"
>>279626454Loli≠lolita retard
>>279626483Moots taste in anime was questionable at best. I thank the retard for being a free speech advocate and sticking around as long as he did but beyond that he was kinda... Well retarded
>>279626483he liked /ss/ tho
>>279626758This. Being talked down to by a loli is one of the hottest things ever.
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>>279624851 (OP)>OP still uses english subtitles
if they're going to do that, then they need to translate girl as cocksock
>>279626275But your pic related’s old dub is superior to the original’s wokeslop.
>>279628356>Moots taste in anime was questionable at best.How so?
>he was kinda... Well retardedSee above.
>>279628411Based if true.
>>279628458Just verbal abuse by females is itself hot.
>>279628356>free speech advocatetourist detected. he said in one of his 4/8 hour AMAs 4chan was never a free speech website. he randomly decided to just ban groups of people who were annoying to him.
>>279626483Yet /l/ existed in this forum
>>279624851 (OP)>Dubs translates "lolicon" as "pedophile">everytime it happen it's in a positive way
>>279624851 (OP)Why are you offended by being called a pedophile? Embrace it.
>>279626758>>279628458Same. I like when lolis know that people lust for them and taunt them for being lolicons/pedos/freaks/weirdos without actually rejecting them.
>>279624851 (OP)Colloquially accurate (mostly, the gender connotation is lost with 'pedophile').
In cases where 'lolicon' is treated neutral to positive leaving it untranslated is the way I'd go but when using it with disgust 'pedophile' or 'pedo' is the closest equivalent in English.
To an extent this is true to life where in English someone might call themselves a lolicon but someone disgusted in them for it won't give them that dignity.
The issue here is that as cultures the Japanese are less viscerally disgusted by pedophilia than Anglos which has effected how language is used in certain contexts.
>>279624851 (OP)Check out these dubs
Asslations, I could never.
I suck and squirt my media through a straw.
If you hvae to watch on a screen; I'm sorry tranny it wasn't made for you!
It just isn't for you!
Go play with your tek-deks.
Lolis who still can't let go of their diapers
>>279628458>>279629293Have a favorite for your impeccable taste.
https://exhentai.org/g/2326407/90c9cdf1f9/
>>279624851 (OP)Arisu has sex with shotas
>>279624851 (OP)>dubsthat aside, I remember watching lucky star with some normie friends, and they wanted the dub. It was pretty funny when it got to lucky channel and she started using pedophile instead of lolicon.
>>279629612Nothing wrong with that. lolis should be with shotas as Allah intended it to be.
>>279626275>and 3D pedophiliathe only time i hear about loli is about anime characters, on anime discussion boards, and in anime from the mouths of other anime characters. i've never heard anyone that wasn't heavily into anime call a child a loli. the only phillia is fictional imo
>>279629206It was a containment board
And where is it now?
>>279630201It's right here.
This is the lolit/a/ board.
>>279624851 (OP)If in universe they like 2d girls they're a lolicon.
If in universe they like 3d girls (even though they're 2d to the audience) they're a pedo.
>>279630308That's a western idea that doesn't reflect the Japanese conception of the term.
>>279626758>no loli will call you a disgusting ero lolicon and pummel you with her tiny ineffectual fistswhy live?
>>279630356Doesn't matter. If they're attracted to real life children they're a pedophile.
how do tell my gf i am a lolicon without her breaking up with me?
>>279630405If your girlfriend is a loli she should have already intuited that.
>>279630424lol shes an adult
>>279624851 (OP)Same thing, weab
>>279625485Why we don't consider people who are into Sadism as a torturer, People that are into rape rp as a rapist or people who create detailed gore games as a serial killers? Etc. Despite being in the same "taboo" group, Also there's a difference between an reality vs fiction (example watching a murder happening in front of you vs video game takedowns animations) so people who are into consuming this taboo content can be also be put off by it.
While a lolicon being a pedophile isn't unheard of but not all Lolicon are pedophile and not all pedophiles are lolicon, lumping all is a generalization fallacy. Considering people who watch this type of content while might exhibit a pedophile/hebephile behaviours but it's usually influenced by moe, eromoe, and other tropes that they started watching this content.
Though if you still want to lump all lolicon as pedophiles, then there's also a study conducted before that there's a difference between an non offending pedophile and offending pedophiles as other factors also requires them to become an offending ones or even a non-pedophile to commit child abuse (eg: access to a child, drugs/beers, location functioning, history of mental illness etc.)
>>279629547I want to suck olivia's pit sweat through a straw
>>279629612im not a shota though
>>279624851 (OP)>ESG agency spams this in /a/ to reinforce their globalist agendas and reconfigure concepts to their financial benefitThe law enforcement industry is an industry. Even if you stopped looking at 2D lolis, they would proceed to reconfigure concepts to make ALL cartoons covered for their agenda. They make money from it.
>>279630405>3DPD gfYou need to leave.
>>279630928I agree, we should profile and imprison people on the basis of their fetishes and primal responses.
>proceeds to imprison every person on the planetBy the way, this
>>279631187 WILL push for this. It's already doing it. People are being ostracised from financial means and dying from it. It's crippling the economy at this stage.
>>279631236>I come to anime related boards to gloat about my obese 3D lardwhale STI riddled whoreThis is up there with pretending to be retarded.
>>279631233I'll bring some interesting snacks if we're all stuck inside the prison. I heard mixing Cheetos, cheese, and some chicken seems good or we'll die shitting in the jail cell 50/50
>>279630928>people who are into Sadism as a torturer, People that are into rape rp as a rapist or people who create detailed gore games as a serial killersOne explicitly means carrying out an act and the other one doesn't. That's a stupid question Is the line between both blurry? I would say shit like the entire BMT affair or retarded americans shooting up a school because they played too much GTA would argue that it's thinner than most people believe.
I don't think it should be outrageous to call lolicons pedophiles especially when no one bats an eye when people call men who jerk off to yaoi faggots. I think you reject this label because you can't handle the negative connotations this term carries in contemporary societies.
>>279631293Yeah I kinda use the dominant/contemporary definition that people or at least normies or social media agreed definition and not the medical one that they generally define pedophilia as "someone's who interested at regardless minor age group who's about to commit a molestation/danger to children and is considered as one despite the offender or non offender differences"
I'm just noting the double standard between negative preconceptions views for certain things as saying someone's who into other taboo is more kinda fine for someone's who into this anime content (the moral relativism perspective)
Ngl just I have mentioned before with the non offending and offending, its similarly to the mass shooting of schools that it also requires other factors like (background, school life, mental health, and access to gun etc.) In order to commit a mass shooting. And this shit is also comes into the political philosophicy debate of where the government should tolerate or intervene? Considering most of us are basing on the "harm principle" and basing on it can be quite subjective like to we have to sanction a content because of a few incidents that is outside from the intended fictional consumption? McDonalds should be banned because it's promotes unhealthy obesity? Or certain things should be outlaw because they have an assumed negative impact? Etc. This is going into a slippery slope or very dictatorship adea
>>279624851 (OP)localization team trying to groom behaviors
>>279624851 (OP)Where is the difference?
>>279631441>Or certain things should be outlaw because they have an assumed negative impact?This idea is as old as the idea of law itself. The Jews still honor some ancient hard and fast rules that outlawed things because they have an assumed negative impact.
Better safe than sorry. The peace and harmony of the many outweigh the freedoms of the few.
But gays, trannies and racial minorities cause much more societal friction and discord than pedophiles on a day to day basis, so continuing to prosecute the latter while turning a blind eye to the former is honestly bigoted.
>>279630928Your error is being a regarded normalfag that doesn't know what pedophile means. the word pedophile is a psychological term for someone who is attracted to prepubescent children. While a lot of the pedo-obsessed freaks use it as a synonym with child rapist and use nonsensical fake legal terms like "convicted pedophile", that is simply not what it means or ever will mean in real medical or legal use.
>Also there's a difference between an reality vs fictionIf you're a man and get off to anime men you are homosexual. If you are a man and get of to anime children you are a podophile.
> then there's also a study conducted before that there's a difference between an non offending pedophile and offending pedophilesAre you just learning of this you absolute retard? did it never once occur to you before that there are pedophiles who resists temptations to break the law? Are you genuinely this pathetically retarded?
>>279631441If you choose to communicate in constantly-changing, colloquial talk, then that's on you. Don't blame others for not understanding you. Plenty of people are able to read dictionaries are use word in their consistent definitions. It's this sort of thing that's ended with place names having to change because some losers are offended by it.
>>279624851 (OP)that's what it means retard
>>279626417>people don't say japanese words on forums that aren't dedicated to japanese subjectsSo this is the power of reddit lolicon apologists. Got to wonder how you'd know that.
>>279632987>regardedOHNONONO....
>>279625485You should translate siscon as "incestuous faggot"
any yuri/yaoi you also sub or dub "faggot"
There's no problem irregardless because it means the same thing
>>279624851 (OP)>respect my retarded fetishno
>>279631547"Paedophile" isn't a gendered term, and doesn't specify whether the object of attraction is a male or female youth, whereas "lolicon" specifically defines an attraction to young females. In that sense, it's the same difference between "fruit" and "apple".
Moreover, defining someone as a -philiac in a psychomedical context generally carries more serious connotations than "lolicon", hence why the latter term is most commonly used in a fictional sense.
Translating "lolicon" to "paedophile" is always disingenuous, and usually displays that the "localiser" is an agenda-driven basedboy.
>>279630405Have a daughter, she'll know
>>279633002> changing or colloquialBecause that's how people talk? If you had fucking read a basic social concept you would know that everyone has their own meaning based on the the dominant culture, agreed upon sub group definition, and experience of their life, even common sense can be subjective you retard.
I'm just stating the hypocrisy the assumed definition of people or normies having a directly negative connotations to lolicon consumers while the other has taboos has leeways.
Dictionary? Of course some terms are definitely more stable than others but fucking retard we are looking at a behaviour (are lolicon directly pedophilic?) which are based on social sciences, and meaning of our yaps can predominantly change or even add to the dictionary as long majority people agreed at that definition but again the mental schema of that definition may vary too, that's basic philosophy of language and symbolic interaction retard.
But again if you wanna believe there's a definite definition then that's on you, though I'll concise that I haven't explained much for the first time around of how I use as a pedo the first time giving my opinion about it and assumed that everyone talk about that definition of a pedo
>>279632987> not how it used in medical and legal terms.Fine my bad I haven't explain much of how I think people used the word pedophile.
>if you get into homosexual hentai then your a gay man.Alright this is definitely a false equivalence as even psychologist hesitates to even diagnose that people who watch this are directly are pedophile despite there is some connections there considering we are linking a child character with a lewd perspective and lolicons can be a pedophile too. You are assuming the everyone has the fucking same reasons, what is this a circle jerk? They can be only interested at certain characters because they are a fan of a shows, then there's fucking eromoe perspective which mix the moe artstyle with eroticism cuteness, there's people that have been abused in the past so they are using this to cope etc.
You are right that a people can get off to lolicon can be a pedophile but its not full correct or a fact.
>pathetically retarded.Just saying a study exist doesn't make me retarded, I'm just referring that a thing does exist. You are insulting me for a thing that I simply just refer too. Who's more retarded that us?
>>279624851 (OP)Why are you so afraid of being called a pedo, you're attracted to pre-pubescent features
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>>279624851 (OP)To be fair that would be the literal translation but still
>dub
>>279624851 (OP)loving little children aside, translating lolicons as pedophiles is simply uncultured
turned into a loli as punishment
This got posted on /b/ before 2010.
>>279626483>implying that anyone ever cared what that literal cuck thinks
>English dub actually uses the word "lolicon"
>>279629206>forumAnyway, m00t really had a mixed opinion about it. He definitely wasn't a moralfag. He explicitly allowed loli on /b/, a rule that is still active to this day. You can read the old news entries on https://www.4chan.org/4channews.php . /l/ probably got deleted because he got cold feet when he witnessed CP spam on /l/. (Is what they say. When I found 4chan, /l/ was long gone.) The official reason is that /l/ caused problems with the host. The board got moved to a different domain. It seems to be unknown who exactly was in control of the spinoff site.
>English dub uses the word "pedophile"
>wait I'm watching subs not dubs
>it was actually my daughter teasing me from behind for watching lolicon anime
>>279634273If you want to speak like a retarded normalfag, why don't you just leave 4chan?
>stating the hypocrisyIt isn't hypocritical, they don't like non-offending pedophiles either.
>there's a definite definition There is, the psychological definition.
>>279634511>Alright this is definitely a false equivalenceIt's not a false equivalence. If you're masturbating to male characters then you are gay and to say otherwise is ludicrous. You would never try to deny this if it didn't have the inconvenient implication that anyone who likes underage characters is a pedophile or hebephile.
>Just saying a study existIt does because the fact that you said that shows you're very new to this subject. Every pedophile itt grew up being antagonized their entire lives for their sexual orientation yet you're acting as if the fact that there are non-offending podophiles is special knowledge which you're coming to enlighten us with. Plenty of anime have lolicon characters that don't offend.
>>279634214>defining someone as a -philiac in a psychomedical context generally carries more serious connotations than "lolicon"Due to cultural differences. Thinking 15 year olds are hot isn't as diabolically evil in japan as it is in the west. This is why it's dishonest it keep it as lolicon.
>>279636489> pedophile itt grew up being antagonized their entire lives for their sexual orientation yetSpeak for yourself sperglord. I've never been antagonized for it because I hide my powerlevel
>>279635080I love little girls.
>>279637183>that fat bassDefinitely too many sweets.
normietards will never understand this
>>279636826You're not a pedophile because if you were you wouldn't need a study to confirm to you that pedos can not offend. Most pedos can relate to hearing normalfags say stuff like anyone who thinks kids are hot should be killed and hating themselves, as well as newspapers and etc. using pedophile as a synonym for child abuser. Any chris hansen video will have all the comments be violent losers talking about how they want to murder pedophiles.
>>279626374>If you fap to animated gay porn, you're not gayYes you are.
>>279632987This.
>>279638458What if you jerk it to yaoi/traps but don’t want to fuck men in real life?
>>279624851 (OP)Its the literal translation, but those who use it in anime contexts are talking about 2D peds not 3D
>>279638607You still have strong homosexual inclinations. there are definitely anons here who occasionally get off to hags but wouldn't want to have sex with them.
When it's used in universe and is when someone is attracted to actual children then is an accurate translation.
>dub translates "lolicon" as "girllover"
>>279638650>literalCope. The word you want is "accurate"
It's accurate to translate yuri/yaoi/siscons to "faggots" why don't I see anyone doing that
>>279626417That’s true in the west, but in Japan “lolicon” is used for BOTH 2D and 3D. I’m not saying that this means they think the two forms are the same, or that lolicons can’t distinguish between fiction and reality, but that’s how the word is used.
I blame the media
>>279630928>Why we don't consider people who are into Sadism as a torturerYou're taking pedophilia as a crime rather than a condition/preference. This is your fallacy.
A lolicon should not be convicted of pedophilia (the crime) because they have done nothing to a child, but they are pedophiles nonetheless (the condition).
Don't fall for language tricks.
>>279628411He's a manlet. Of course he does.
>>279639433>they are pedophiles nonethelessI’m not sure about this Anon. There’s definitely some overlap, but if there are people out there who are only attracted to 2D, the same must be true for lolicons, no?
>>279639479I'd say a homosexual who only jacks it to yaoi is still a homosexual. 2D is an entirely different dimension.
Thus, I consider 4chan's classic meaning of lolicon "2D pedophile". Indeed far less dangerous than a 3D pedo. There's a whole list of differences really
>>279631187>”globalist agendas”/pol/ pls go, this is a debate between normalfags and pedos (aka “lolicons”) we don’t need your input.
>>279639398I use lolicon to refer to 3D junior idol gravure videos. The distinction is weeby vs not rather than 2D vs 3D
Lolicon was never 2D only. That's a misinterpretation that happened because people in the west saw the art that lolicons created but they didn't see the DVDs that they watched.
>>279632987Okay, I get it. I’m a lolicon, or pedophile, or whatever. Now what? I never asked to be born with these impulses. I’m sick of hating myself for things I cannot control. Is there any hope for me? I don’t want to live the rest of my life in shame
Pedophilia is a traditional part of Japanese culture. Read the Tale of Genji. If you can't handle that you are simply racist against the Japanese.
>German dub translates "lolicon" as "dehrkinderfucher"
>>279624851 (OP)why you always post this girl and about pedophiles
>>279639778Both you and whoever wrote the text in your pic could kill yourselves. That'll spare you the shame.
>>279639778>the ultimate goal of a lolicon is to become a girlnah this guy was just a tranny in denial
>>279639798>Pedophilia is a traditional part of Japanese culture.That and incest apparently, Japan, nay East Asia as a whole needs to be quarantined off from the West and civilized society.
>>279639798>read the Tale of Genji That's not even an exaggeration. Lady Murasaki is like 10 when Genji becomes enamored with her.
>>279639778>Okay, I get it. I’m a lolicon, or pedophile, or whatever. Now what?Now you continue living your life while fapping from time to time to the things you like like any other person.
>I never asked to be born with these impulses. I’m sick of hating myself for things I cannot control.Nobody asks for the life they get. Just because you have a fetish/sexual preference that society™ doesn't like doesn't mean that you must suffer for it. You need to treat it like any other part of your life (without letting it take over your whole personality, of course).
>Is there any hope for me? I don’t want to live the rest of my life in shameEveryone is ashamed of something, without exception, and they simply keep it secret or engage on it privately. It's only when you stop doing other things to engage in your fetish or are bothering or hurting others when it becomes a problem.
Monogatari did the same but subs
>>279625485"loli" refers
>body type>baby faced females
>>279624851 (OP)that is an accurate and appropriate translation
maybe you guys wouldn't be getting so upset if you didn't base your entire personality on what you masturbate to
>>279641819same but for retard localizers
>>279636511Lolicon is already a loanword from Japanese. It by no means carries "diabolically evil" connotations in the west, especially amongst the niche subsets that the topic is relevant amongst.
>>279639433>not be convicted of pedophilia (the crime)Which legal system has a criminal offence called "pedophilia"?
>>279643037You don't appear to have read the sentence properly. It is not the word lolicon that is regarded as diabolical in the west, but sexual attraction to minors, and this attraction is closely associated with the word pedophile which is extremely pejorative. So by writing lolicon rather than pedophile, translators attempt to cover up the fact that being a hebephile or pedophile isn't met with quite as much scorn in japan as the west. You'll find lolicon used in translations that don't keep honorifics, for example. It is intentional.
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>>279643040The proper legal term is kid-diddling.
>>279643175Something tells me that the Japanese do not actually look at pedophilia any more fondly than the west does. It's just more visible in Otaku media.
Otaku culture =/= Japanese culture as a whole. It is a frowned upon subculture. Hence why it's associated with ugly, socially inept weirdos.
>>279643489You clearly don't live in the anglosphere if you think being a pedophile will merely get you "frowned upon". Maybe germans are less bothered by it but in English-speaking countries pedophilia is basically the worst crime imaginable.
>>279643402The proper legal term is thought crime, actually.
>>279626031>browsing /a/ post 2011 at best>falling for underage brown Xitter tourist baitanon...you're better than this...
>>279643558"Frowned upon" is not mutually exclusive with harsher treatments/attitudes. If I hate someone I also dislike them. If I say I dislike someone that doesn't exclude me from hating them. I'm noting the negative reaction to them, not making a statement on the severity.
Is this like an ESL thing not getting this? It's a pretty simple concept.
>>279643746Then perhaps if you meant something stronger you should have just written it instead of expecting everyone to know what you meant? Is this an ESL thing? There is nothing comparable in other countries to anglo countries where we have people themselves pedo hunters who make it their hobby to trick retards into exposing themselves. That is not a thing in japan.
>>279643817>anglo countries where we have people themselves pedo hunters who make it their hobbyYou know how americans are obsessed with the concept of white guilt to make up for the fact of having blacks as slaves for years and that's why they keep pushing black people on everything to compensate? It's the same thing with pedophilia, young marriages and young brides used to (and still are in some countries) still a thing, but americans want to erase this fact as much as possible by hating on pedos on levels that border on obsession. And sometimes, those very anti-pedo crusaders end up being the ones who were pedos themselves.
>>279644044Possibly, but more likely they chose pedophiles since they're such an easy target. Actually raping kids is obviously very wrong, and since many non-offending exclusive pedophiles are weirdos it's just too easy a target for blaming problems on. Is there any other group of people with such a broad appeal to be hated than pedophiles? No matter your background or politically views, so long as you're not already accused of being a pedophile yourself then you can easily join in. Why bother attacking catholics, jews, blacks, etc. when you can just go after pedophiles.
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>>279639873>dehrkinderfucher
>>279629158Infinite Stratos
Canv.as
>>279644404>2019kek
maybe wait a few more years before presenting that as the majority opinion of this board
that's one of those fake threads where the fag making the screenshots replied a dozen times to his own post isn't it
>>279624851 (OP)I cannot reliably conceive of how hard I'd get from Arisu looking at me like this
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>>279644529idk I didn't make this meme I just thought no better place to shitpost using it than here
>>279639873No, it doesn't. dehrkinderfucher is not even German.
>>279639873You mean "der Kinderficker", I assume?
>>279644780First one sounds funnier
>>279644807Yeah, but it's just gibberish.
At least try dutch, if you want something funny.
>>279624851 (OP)The majority of the time said "lolicon" is into real in-universe little girls, so it's accurate
>>279644875Real uohh Nips themselves are even more explicit about it and it doesn't get frowned upon to nearly the same extent it does in the West.
>>279644967Japanese people are pedophiles.
lolicon translates to lolita complex if you are that insistent on translating a cultural anime related term everyone can understand when you leave as is. Translating it to pedophile is fraudulent, but most translations these days are fraudulent so what the fuck do you even expect I guess. Japanese have a seperate term that translates directly to pedophile, they don't use the term lightly but unfortunately in the past couple of years on the western end now that spamming racist and x-phobic stopped working there are people stooping to just calling everyone pedophiles recently which is the only word that still gets easy reactions. The kind of people who work for the translations are the same kind of people that have been spamming these words, so its no surprise they are forcing in the word pedophile to their fan fiction translations lately, its not just dubs either, subs are doing it as well since they are all the same garbage, there was a lolicon>pedophile translation last week in atelier meister.
Does anyone have that old meme where that guy is going BABY FUCK AWWWWWWWWIGHT
>>279645020>lolicon translates to lolita complexno it doesn't and to insinuate that it does reveals that you don't understand how wasei-eigo works.
>>279645020You want to have sex with little girls don't you Squidward
>>279645041You should be able to find it with most of the other oldfag shock content if you search Æ
>>279645146I hate you. You live in a fake reality and nothing I ever say to you will convince you otherwise. It is so fucking infuriating.
>>279644746>>279644780the stereotypes are no exaggeration, the germans really are a fucking humourless bunch
>>279645331The joke is much funnier if it's correct.
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This thread is basically
>actually they're two different things
>yeah, so what?
>lol dub
>>279645391>The joke is much funnier if it's correct.The broken german is the whole point of the joke. Why the fuck would a literal translation be funny?
>>279645578But it is not even recognizeable as broken. Furthermore, "Kinderficker" is a significant step up from "pedophile" and "lolicon", as it indicates an action being taken actively, rather than a preference. The central point of the joke is the disproportionate severity of the term used and the fact that it can be constructed like that in the German language first place.
>>279624851 (OP)Just accept it with pride
>>279645020>Translating it to pedophile is fraudulentWhy?
>>279645020>I don't like little girls, I just like little girls!
>>279645453This was almost funny if it weren't for the fact that it was probably made by a christian larper that thinks their religion is anti pedo
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>>279645020Oh so this was you then, Anon?
>>279645672because you are opting for something that is a little similar but not really the same at all? The moment you whip out a thesaurus to make your translations more "interesting" is the moment you have failed as a translator, but that is what anime translators pretty much do at the expense of the original story that was told in Japanese.
>>279645713>>279645729>>279645453since you are begging for it here is your (You)
>>279645825How is pedophile not the same as lolicon?
>>279645041No, nobody here has it because they came here in 2016.
>>279624851 (OP)AYYYOO
DIS NIGGA WATCHING DUBS
>>279645825But you don't know what the wasei eigo "ロリタコンプレックス" means. You act like it means something other than "pedophile". It doesn't.
You are correct that there is an untranslateable nuance here, in that it has less weight, but there is no equivalent English term that is "pedophile", but slightly less serious.
I'm sorry anon, it just means "pedophile".
>>279645922It has less weight due to cultural differences, not because of the language. It isn't possible for a word meaning pedophile to have less weight in English.
>>279645922It also has the specific nuance of being into little girls rather than boys but that's also a distinction not usually made in English
>>279645853how is wide and vast not the same thing?
how is small and sparse not the same thing?
Maybe its because they have different meanings despite being similar words.
Maybe lolita complex which is the correct translation, has a slightly different meaning from pedophile which makes using the word pedophile an incorrect translation. Oh wow look at that if you compare the two words side by side, oh yeah look they are in fact different!
Please stop being retarded anon, I'm tired of living in a world of retards, I miss how 15 years ago people online weren't retarded and could actually both agree that the sky is blue, I just don't understand where everything went wrong.
>>279645922It's like saying "pedophile" and "child molester" are not fundamentally the same thing.
>>279646067Are you able to say what this difference in meaning is?
Tachibana Arisu
Tachibana Alice
Tachibana Aris
Tachibana Aeris
Tachibana Aerith
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>>279624851 (OP)>Cunt idolAnd somehow she's not even the most likely of her troop to become an av-idol as an adult
>>279643817I meant what I said, that pedophilia is viewed negatively, I don't need to go anymore in-depth than that.
America has a public registry of sex offenders where you can easily locate them. Japan doesn't. Also I don't think Japanese sex offenders are required by law to inform on themselves to their new neighbors when they move into a neighborhood.
Pedophiles in Japan are still going to lose their job and convicted of whatever related crimes, and lose all social standing just like in America and elsewhere, they just don't get put on a government-mandated public hit list.
>>279646170>"I might be a pedophile but at least I haven't actually diddled any kids"Is this really the hill you want to die on, anon?
>>279646081I find it concerning that I need to explain this nuance to you.
"Child molester" clearly implies that the person being described using this term has molested a child in the past or is doing so at this very moment. "Pedophile" makes no such claim. They are distinct in meaning.
Similarly "ロリタコンプレックス" does not imply any child molestation having taken place or taking place at present. It only states a preference, making its meaning (and the meaning of derived terms) closest to "pedophile". Therefore, "pedophile" is the correct translation.
If you feel the need to vehemently defend yourself when a show or anime tourist calls you a pedo for liking loli, then you probably really are one. Stop caring about the opinions of retards on the internet or stupid localizers and just enjoy the cute girls.
>>279646195You do need to go more in depth, or else people won't know what you mean.
>America has a public registry of sex offenders where you can easily locate them. Japan doesn't.That has nothing to do with chris hansen style pedo hunting
>>279646212Words mean things, anon.
>>279646212Who are you quoting and also what's wrong if someone did say that
>>279646235So that's a yes, then.
>>279645916Probably a Zoomer
>>279646299That's the faggot that posts in ebonics.
They aren't wrong tho. I pity the fools who can't enjoy little girls in both planes of existence.
No matter how hard you try to whitewash loli to make it palatable to your Discord/Twitter tranny friends, it will never EVER be a okay fetish to have.
>>279646148first of all lolicon includes both prepubescent and after puberty
pedophile means ONLY before puberty.
Second pedophile is literally much more serious in its usage and is a literal classification, whereas lolicon in japanese is pretty much only used in fictional mediums or in joke situations.
third lolicon is specifically referring to girls, not boys, whereas pedophile refers to both. Basically the words are literally nothing alike at all, you are blinded by your retardation.
>>279646225what have I defended? I am more upset that I somehow cannot explain that 2 words have different meanings to living human beings.
In some contexts ロリコン could be used to mean something closer to "child molester." Japanese doesn't necessarily make the distinction either
>>279646195By that logic whenever potheads are mentioned in anime you should translate them as "subhuman crack addicts" since smoking weed is a much more severe crime in japan than it is in america
>>279646352That's the psychological definition, most people use pedophile for both
>Second pedophile is literally much more serious in its usageThis is a cultural difference
pedophile != molester, btw
It is important to remember that 40% of American students literally can't understand what they are reading and that they often rely on recognizing individual words to form thought terminating cliches are phrase their responses accordingly.
>>279646234Chris Hansen style pedo hunting isn't an indication of hating pedophiles more than Japan, but of a trend of western pedos trying to pull in kids on internet forums and chatrooms into irl meetups, which was more an issue when the internet was still young and parents hadn't caught onto the concept of internet safety.
Why these kind of predatory irl meetups aren't a big thing in Japan, I don't know. It's pretty clear though that Japan doesn't approve of pedophilia which was my original point before we got into this matter of degrees of pedo hate.
>>279646402>midwit psychobabble
>>279646352>whereas lolicon in japanese is pretty much only used in fictional mediums or in joke situationsAnd JS/JK gravure, of course.
But you don't know shit about Japan so you'll just make unfounded claims.
post more lolidols PLEASE
>>279646311Okay, then they're both Zoomers.
>>279646423thank you for substantiating my statement with an example
>>279646411>Why these kind of predatory irl meetups aren't a big thing in JapanBecause hating pedophiles isn't as a big of a thing there. There's your answer.
>>279646342>Twitter tranny friendsWhat are you talking about? All trannies are already pedophiles and would molest little girls if given the chance.
>>279646392I'm not a lolicon and I'm definitely not a pedo.... but Momoka is different.
>>279646425>And JS/JK gravureI thought underaged gravure doesn't exist in Japan anymore?
>>27964644999% of people read by recognizing individual words rather than letter by letter, if you don't then you might be the retard. That's also similar to how reading kanji works, they don't do it by radicals. As for "thought terminating cliches are phrase their responses" you'll have to explain what that's even supposed to mean.
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>>279646469They aren't true pedophiles they just think kids are for sex and indoctrination, they often have cute aggression
>>279645825Only one of those is (Me)
>>279646540how the FUCK do you defend yourself against this?
>>279646524To properly read, you need to not only read individual words, but whole setences and even paragraphs and you need to be able to infer the meaning of words you are unfamiliar with.
>"thought terminating cliches are phrase their responses"Oh no, I made a typo. You win, congratulations on your ability to carefully identify different words! Now why don't you go and infer the correct meaning to demonstrate your reading abiltiy.
>>279646562If they think kids are for sex then they are pedophiles. They also turn up again and again in the news for possession of cheese pizza and for raping kids, despite the MSM's best efforts to hide them. This is not hard.
>>279643175Modern official translations don't write "lolicon", that's the point. They supplant it with the inaccurate, vague "paedophile" instead — which is, like other chronophilia's, of a more psychomedical context.
>LE UOOOH LE CUNNY *CRYING EMOJI* *CRYING EMOJI* *ANGRY VEIN EMOJI*
Dorontabi deserves better than this, especially when the loli "community" threw him under the bus after finding out that he indeed likes real little girls.
Where're the official jap police reports on people arrested for "lolicon"??
>>279646463How does hating pedophiles increase the number of pedophiles luring kids into irl meetups online? Genuinely I don't know if you're doing this on purpose or you just can't read.
The Chris Hansen style pedo hunting is only possible with pedophiles trying to setup irl meetups with kids online. If there are less pedos doing this, you won't have success with Chris Hansen style pedo hunting. Japan seems to have less pedos doing this, hence they have less Chris Hansen pedo hunting.
>>279646656>Japan seems to have less pedos doing this, hence they have less Chris Hansen pedo hunting.why do you keep talking about things happening in Japan when you don't know shit about Japan?
>>279646578>but whole setences and even paragraphs and you need to be able to infer the meaning of words you are unfamiliar with.You didn't include that in your previous post, you just said that they read word individually, suggesting that you thought that was unusual. Can you prove any of your claims? How could someone who reads each individual word not be reading whole sentences?
>to not only readThis is bad English, btw. You could at least try.
小児性愛者 is the only word that translates to pedophile, I'm done with this thread anyways, I don't know if you guys have brain deficiencies or what but I can't handle the level of retard present here.
>>279646611They don't love children so they are not pedophiles.
>>279646697Wrong, dekinai retard.
>>279646696>This is bad English, btw.No it isn't, you need to read a book sometime. You might learn something. I know it can be tough.
>How could someone who reads each individual word not be reading whole sentences?I dunno, I know how to read.
The fact that you are here arguing about reading individual words rather than engaging with what I said in my initial posts demonstrates that you don't, though.
>>279646697I am impressed by your ability to use an online translator.
>>279646656Stop pretending not to understand. Japan does not have pedo hunters who make it their hobby to trick pedos into revealing themselves. Japan does not have anti pedo riots. Japan does not have lolicon content illegal like anglo countries. japan is significantly more accepting of pedophilia than the west.
>The Chris Hansen style pedo hunting is only possible with pedophiles trying to setup irl meetups with kids online.No it's not. The pedo hunters find retards who normally would never try any sort of meetup, they have their tactics to do it.
>>279646641Risa is LITERALLY my wife.
>>279646662Arisu is LITERALLY my daughterwife
>>279646777>japan is significantly more accepting of pedophilia than the west.the source to this is your ass?
stop talking about a society you know nothing about, whose language you don't speak and whose culture you don't understand to justify your morally questionable fetish
it's pathetic.
>>279646725They are pedophiles and so are you
>>279646651>why don't police use internet slang>>279646361Weed is essentially never mentioned in anime. You are correct though in implying that potheads are subhuman.
>>279646067How is "liking little girls" and "liking little kids" not the same thing? That "liking little kids" can (but doesn't necessarily) include boys? It's a nothingburger, they are pretty much interchangeable.
>>279646755>No it isn't, you need to read a book sometime.It's called a split infinite and it is bad, it's ugly in form and it's a sign of a person that doesn't read or know much about the English grammar. It's probably the most famous proscribed thing in English. Your initial post was retarded and it was responded to earlier.
>>279646805Post a source for your own claim first. All the evidence points towards it being more accepting than the west.
>>279646874you are making the claim, so you have to go first
>>279646847>no uI suppose, we are done here? Thank you for the efforts in proving my point.
>it was responded to earlier.Where? May I see it?
This has become a stellar quality bait thread. Well done OP
>>279646777Japan does not and never will like or be okay with pedos. Also what the fuck are you talking about, sexual content is heavily restricted in Japan. Child pron is illegal.
If they were okay with pedos, it and everything surrounding it wouldn't be fucking illegal and ruin your life socially and professionally.
>>279646947But this post implicitly supports my claim that people are only looking at individual words in a sentence and infer meaning based on them?
>>279646968Japan hasn't even properly banned junior idol gravure so Japan is clearly okay with pedophilia.
>Child pron is illegal.Due to international pressure and imported western culture.
>>279626417You've been to 3d pedo websites anon? Why are all of these lolicon defenders frequenting 3d pedo websites?!
>>279646989Whatever, it's not like you can prove any of your inconsistent assertions.
>>279647054My assertion is constistent, it's that you can't read.
By being unable to comprehend the argument and struggling this much to form a rebuttal, you are proving it, as I have pointed out multiple times.
>>279647096What is your assertion?
>>279624851 (OP)How about you check THESE dubs
>>279646968>>279647019Cultural differences mean they define sexual boundaries differently than people in the West do. Obviously it's illegal there to diddle kids but they also make more of a deniable distinction between 2D and 3D. Over here we make no such distinction far more often, and arguably this puts our culture more in the right.
It's true that Japan is relatively speaking tolerant of pedophilia but so what? They are relatively tolerant of long hours that doesn't mean 残業 should be translated as anything other than "overtime"
>>279629612>>279629829Fuck off, shotashitters. You're fucking obnoxious.
>>279630928I jack off to ryona
guess I'm a murderer now
>>279647181Nice. Now let's see the demographic profile of a majority of sex offenders in the UK.
>>279647144You already proved that you don't read by your little grammatical error earlier so it's funny how you keep calling anyone who says it's unclear what your argument is illiterate.
>>279647304But you are functionally illiterate. You didn't understand the argument, because you responded with a complete non-sequitur and now are arguing things unrelated to the argument.
I will keep calling you illiterate.
Why do all normalniggers talk in the most insufferable way imaginable?
>>279647333What is your argument?
>non-sequitur top kek
The only irl person I knew liked lolicon turned out he consumed soft CP on private Instagram groups (he showed me thinking I was cool with that). He also gave me the same speech about how 'lolicon content is good because it reduces the existence of CP and pedophilia' (this was before I found out he consumed CP). Like, Jesus man just accept what you are lol.
>>279647355>What is your argument?The post is still there, you can just read it.
You know what a non-sequitur is?
>>279646402Amply demonstrated by the responses to this post. America's future is even grimmer than its present
I swear these autistic fights over definitions are a problem exclusive to lolicons. I like both loli and shota, and shota threads almost never have discussions about the meaning of terms, while loli threads almost always have at least 3 retards arguing about the relation between lolicon and pedophilia.
Same thing with autistic subclassifications. Nobody in shota threads categorizes shotas by age like lolicons do with their loli/hebe/alice and JY/JS/JC autism or get mad because a boy is 12yo instead of 11yo (many of them even extend the "visible age limit" to 15 years). They just call boys "shotas". At worst they argue over who's a better lover for shotas (men, women, lolis, other shotas, etc), but nothing on this scale.
>>279647370All your previous posts were refuted, so it must mean that your argument is wrong then.
>You know what a non-sequitur is?Yes, however anyone who says it on 4chan is a clown and definitely under the age of 20.
>>279647361He's a hypocrite but he's probably right. I would rather have pedophiles keep to 2D. There's also the fact that, yes, pedophiles are probably attracted to lolicon material in the same way mass murders are attracted to violent vidya games.
>>279647403>All your previous posts were refutedMay I see the refutations?
>Yes, however anyone who says it on 4chan is a clown and definitely under the age of 20.Another example for the pile.
>>279647430You can read them by scrolling up.
>>279647444I can't find them, I read all the posts and I can't which ones are meant to refute what I am saying, because none of them address the argument.
>>279647181Maybe it is because of the migrants?
>>279647256Britain brings the migrants in meaning that their politician decided that there is no problem with british children getting raped by brown men.
>>279647384no i actually argue in a lot of translation threads, which I am slowly becoming aware is pointless, but still i fucked up by engaging in this one and killed almost 2 hours of my life in return for nothing because as expected the people i was arguing with literally live in a different world from me.
>>279647467it's Anglican priests, obviously.
>>279647181And now the UK is going to ban 4chan lol. Until the 90's the Sun newspaper was having 16 year olds and occasionally 15 year olds pose for page three and no one cared. This complete ban on any sexual content of minors was a yank import and now they'll use it to give us greater internet censorship than China.
>>279647133They don't make a distinction between 2D and 3D any more than we do in the West. If you tell the average Japanese person you love 2D little girls, they're gonna think you're a freak.
The lolicon/pedophilia distinction is an Otaku thing, wider Japanese society will think you're a freak either way. Regular Japanese people don't have these arguments. They, like regular westerners are disgusted by pedos regardless of whatever apologia they fashion to separate themselves from other pedos.
Stop confusing Otaku culture for wider Japanese society at large.
>>279647471t. the lolicon defener
>>279646641>>279646392>>279646342I remember how Dorontabi tried to draw "normal" art for a while then relapsed.
Cunny is too strong I guess.
>>279647384Let's be real, it's misandrist retardation at the heart of bitching about loli, but not shota.
>>279647384that's because more shotacons either genuinely stick to 2D or are projecting on to the shota but lolifags can be potentially more prone to like 3D which makes 2dfags, pedofags and shitstirrers enter into a panic
You don't see as many "supprt" into 3D boy love either like you can see people do so for 3D girls (unless it's a deliberate falseflagger)
>>279647455If you can't find them then might you be illiterate? What is your argument?
>>279644170>Is there any other group of people with such a broad appeal to be hated than pedophiles? No matter your background or politically views, so long as you're not already accused of being a pedophile yourself then you can easily join in. Pedophiles are in fact worse than murderers (adult) rapists, and cannibals combined yes.
Only other group that comes close are disgusting inbreeders.
>>279647504Kill yourself, twittertard.
>>279647256>>279647467Looked it up, and in 2004, England was 91% white and 81% in 2014.
>>279647523>no ujust let it go, if you can't do it
>>279644404I made this post! Take me back.
>>279647384JS vs JC isn't a fight we just have different strike zones
>>279647535you have very strange sexual fixations
>>279647547What is your argument?
>>279647535It's really weird how normalfags and leftists use inbred as an insult, people who are inbred didn't get to choose that at all. They are such retarded hypocrites.
>>279647590I'll be kind and restate it just once:
>40% of American students cannot read, they instead identify individual words in sentences and then construct a thought terminating cliche based on those individual words.Examples supporting this statement can be found by scrolling up.
>>279647519I wish fags would stop dragging 3DPD into everything ;_;
>>279625485According to the DSM-5 a pedophile is attracted to children of 13 yo and below, whereas "lolicon" refers to the attraction to young girls in a broader sense. Moreso, "pedophile" belong to the lexical field of psychiatry, when lolicon is a slang. Definition aside it's an iffy translation since these words do not carry the same connotation. Would be more adequate to leave it as it is instead of trying to twist a japanese slang into a proper english term tbdesu
>>279647629What's a "thought terminating cliche" what are your sources? And should it not be hyphenated?
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>I wish fags would stop dragging 3DPD into everything ;_;
My brother in Christ, japanese lolicon artists have or still consume 3D stuff.
>>279647568Fuck Uran for ending this like a cuck instead of just doing what Hano sensei did.
Nobody has an excuse after her actions for pure sibling love.
>>279647667See, you latch onto individual words and then construct a simplistic response in your head that makes you unable to think about the subject any further. Exactly, as I suggested.
As for the sources, literacy being bad among American students is well-known and you can easily find sources, I will not provide them.
>>279647667I'm going to explain that anons argument for you since I've heard it before and this retarded back and forth isn't adding anything to the thread.
People these days are functionally illiterate, they know how to read but they can not comprehend what was written. How they attempt to understand the written word is by picking out key words in a sentence and formulating their own strawman argument in their head. So they attack what they believe you've written and not what you actually wrote.
>>279647705Japan had a child modeling scene and it was legal to sell pictures and videos of underage girls wearing revealing outfits until recently.
>>279647699I don't care normalfag, the third dimension doesn't matter and anyone on /a/ trying to drag into discussion is a megafaggot. You'd know that if you weren't a newfag.
>>279624851 (OP)I’ve never heard that
Start provoking normalniggers into attacking then killing in self defense until replacing. I don't care anymore.
Everything in the way of loli must die.
>>279647546The UK will be majority brown in three decades
>>279647821By then they will stop bothering to report rape and other crimes at all, solving the problem
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Oh, another thread full of tourists.
Go back.
>>279647845Considering how things are going right now they'll probably soon get even stricter about what japanese drawings you're allowed to look at. Don't think white brits will get a break.
>>279646036>It also has the specific nuance of being into little girls rather than boysNot like there’s a real difference between the two anyways, they are virtually identical aside from their genitals and if you think otherwise that the genitals make the gender instead of hormones and secondary sex characteristics then you are a TERF.
>>279647915>trying to argue in favor of trannies specially tranny children in the loli threadreally
>>279647957I'm hoping that's sarcasm.
>>279647915In the case you are serious, this is not true they do look slightly different.
>>279647957>pedos are also transphobic bigotsQuelle surprise.
People who conflate lolis with real children haven't seen the latter since their own school days. Kids simply do not look like
>>279647676 this. They have no curves to speak of, their limbs have no definition, their faces are weird and chubby (female anime faces look the same regardless of age), etc. They look like strange, unfinished humans.
The characters in that pic are what an average 150cm adult female looks like in cartoon form, which is why they're attractive. But being attracted to real kids is like being attracted to real animals - you really gotta have a screw loose to go there.
>>279648001Kill yourself, leftard.
>>279647998>this is not true they do look slightly different.No they don’t, this is just TERF cope. You would never be able to tell if they were socialized the exact same with matching clothes and hairstyles. Prepubescent children are in fact identical because sexual dimorphism hasn’t set in and genitals are far less important in determining sex like republicucks would like you to think.
>>279648016Plenty of lolicon art doesn't use those body proportions, tourist.
>>279648037Not true at all, they look noticeably different, girls are prettier and often have wider hips. It's very good that you don't spend time around children.
>>279646810Look up what pedophile means in greek, trannies just think kids are objects to be used.
>>279648051All lolicon art simplifies and exaggerates, because these are cartoons. Point me to a loli that has a facial structure of a realistic child. No one draws that.
>>279648037After that bait thread yesterday, I'm entirely convinced trolls about trannyshit are literally as bad.
Kill yourself.
>>279648089>It's very good that you don't spend time around children.That would be you, pedo.
>>279648127The general anime art style is very childlike in general so that doesn't mean anything. This
>>279647360 is realistic proportions.
>>279624894whos dis qt314
>>279648001Tranny and pedophiles are practically synonyms.
>>279624851 (OP)>Dubs translates "lolicon" as "MAP"
>>279648168I see little anime girls.
>>279648196>"lolicon" as "MAP"Also correct
>>279648037Only a troon would believe the difference between male and female is purely hormonal.
>>279648203Go back to where? Being based? For hating both trannies and pedophiles because even if not all pedophiles are trannies, all trannies are pedophiles?
>>279648264Hating pedophiles is a psyop, go to reddit.
>all trannies are pedophiles?They may rape, hurt and indoctrinate kids for amusement, but publicly they are usually extremely anti pedo.
>>279647517I want Ui-sensei to berate me...
>>279648168>The general anime art style is very childlike in general so that doesn't mean anything.The fuck is a "general anime art style"? You mean generic "big eyes, small nose"? By that logic, the entire concept of cartooning itself is all "childlike". You're parroting this drivel without thinking.
We simplify faces like that not because of the children, but because humans find eyes as the most expressive part of the face, while the nose is the least expressive. So when you simplify, you naturally focus on that. And everyone finds that attractive, regardless of age or gender.
>This is realistic proportionsNo, it's not. No kid has these proportions. Her head is as big as her entire torso, but with a huge mane of hair that only an adult could have. And obviously, the face is entirely simplified. This is as far from realism as Ancient Egyptian art would be.
>>279648300>Hating pedophiles is a psyop, go to reddit.>all trannies are pedophiles?>They may rape, hurt and indoctrinate kids for amusement, but publicly they are usually extremely anti pedo.
I don't know when /a/ died, but judging how this thread is going, the body is long since gone cold and starting to rot.
>>279648089If you dressed up a prepubescent boy like a girl I guarantee you 100% wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. This is how men get fooled by traps by the way, because traps look the way they do because of infinitely less testosterone which influences their secondary sex characteristics and facial features. Genitals have and always will be a nothingburger in terms of determining gender and sex, what’s in what’s pants is far less important in determining attraction than people think, attraction isn’t just based on being walking dildos or pussies, otherwise pedos wouldn’t exist because they’re specifically attracted to the ABSENCE of fully formed secondary sex characteristics, they are mainly attracted to androgyny.
Conservacucks lost, trannies won.
>>279648349This is probably clever bait but I can't be sure. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Don't forget to diaper your lolis
>>279648333>the entire concept of cartooning itself is all "childlike". In a lot of cases, it does produce childlike characters.
> So when you simplify, you naturally focus on that.It doesn't matter what reason you do it for, the result is childlike characters. What a retarded argument. And the reason it's more attractive is because people generally think younger people are more attractive than old hags.
>No kid has these proportions.The rest of her body, you retard. In the previous post the anon was clearly pointing to the characters' curves when he said they weren't childlike.
>>279648348There was a pretty good loli thread a while ago despite a /dbs/fag showing up trying to shitpost (and failing really hard).
>>279648345Jesus Christ came to oppose the self-righteous. Stop defending trannies, they rape kids. They are not pedophiles aka child lovers.
>>279648089>girls are prettier and often have wider hipsThat's after pubery begins to hit them at around 10. Before that, boys and girls are flat rectangles, with boys having slightly more defined shoulders (but just a bit, nothing compared to postpubescent boys and men) and girls having slightly rounder butts (genetics play a lot here tho).
t. has tons of male and female cousins of different ages (from toddlers to young adults) and saw many of them in underwear and swimsuits as a kid/teen.
>>279648348Kokkoro is THE perfect daughtermomwife
>>279648349Probably not just by looking quickly, but on inspection you could. You easily could if they were naked.
>This is how men get fooled by traps by the way,They don't, freak.
Lolicon and pedophilia have an undeniable link.
>>279648430You think there is a meaningful moral difference between raping kids and looking at porn depicting kids being raped, and that because you are not the former being the latter makes you less of a degenerate. You're a degenerate who should be nailed to a cross whether you went the extra mile and molested a child or just got turned on by an image of it. And in both cases, a pedophile.
>>279648447No it's not, they often already have curves before that.
>with boys having slightly more defined shouldersThanks for admitting that you're wrong
>>279632987your post has typos haha you lost
>>279648264>the difference between male and female is purely hormonal.It is, all genitals determine is which sexed hormones you’ll get during puberty, but that can be manipulated and changed, hence why we now say AFAB or AMAB (ASSIGNED female or male at birth) rather than just blatantly assuming they’ll for sure end up female or male.
Genitals in and of itself don’t change your outward looks, which is the only truly important marker when it comes to determining sex and gender, nobody sane in day to day living cares about what’s in your pants, even romantic/sexual partners are initially attracted to your face first and foremost.
Sexual dimorphism (the differences between the sexes and what codes someone as “male” or “female”) is ultimately a function of hormones, not genitals.
>>279648490Looking at things is completely different to raping kids. But god job reaffirming the psyop so the internet can be further censored and more of our rights taken away.
>You're a degenerate who should be nailed to a crossAgain, our God came to earth to oppose self-righteousness. Stop casting judgement onto others, jew. You're on a website that allows the hosting of lolicon drawings so maybe just leave.
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>>279648447>>2796485182 + 2 = 4, your pseudoscience won't work on anyone anymore.
>>279648405>It doesn't matter what reason you do it for, the result is childlike charactersSo you're calling Don Bluth a pedophile for drawing a sexualized Princess Daphne with what you're calling exclusively "childlike" features? Or what about Betty Boop? Just look at the proportions, oh my...
God you people are retarded.
>The rest of her body, you retardEven /ic/ would crucify you for calling that realistic in any way.
>>279648420I remember that thread, it was shit.
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/279337953/
Most posts were made by the dragonspic spammer or referenced the spam, and the thread itself was deleted by a mod for no reason (it's OP was exactly like the OP of a shota thread that lasted for 5 days and reached its bump limit naturally) just before it was going to reach its bump limit.
>>279648556>the Jews want to stop pedophilia and child rapistsFirst I've heard
>>279648385>t. Conservacuck anti-vaxxer who’s probably also a flat earther and creationist>this is absolutely not trueI can tell you never once stepped a foot into an actual biology class, as is usually the case for uneducated redneck fucks or turd worlders.
>>279648577Don't know, did he draw that specifically with childlike proportions, behaving like a child and resembling a child? Then he probably is.
>Even /ic/ Don't care faggot. Go back.
>>279648583Most posts weren't actually made by him, and they all got deleted. It was fun btfoing a retarded spic but I will admit it was basically an image dump thread. Leagues better than this thread though.
>>279648487>>279648550Post more Sakura.
She's THE sexiest mahou shoujo of all time
>>279648608I hope you're just pretending to be a retard. Otherwise, God help you.
>>279648590They seek to use the paranoia about child rape and cp to take away more of our rights. In private the most likely rape kids, but publicly they oppose it. The plebs aren't allowed to look at images.
>>279648639Your argument failed.
Blegh, what a stinks-of-reddit nigger thread.
Wish all pedos a nice one and God bless barasui for introducing me to cunny.
>>279638607Many twinks on porn look just like the traps in your yaois, you just have to know where to look
>>279648566Everything in that post besides menstruation, pregnancy, and chromosomes don’t apply if you transition early before puberty, which is why it’s so important that transkids do, so they’re not forced to be confined to a life of eternal nopass, Hondom, and dysphoria.
Reducing being a woman to just walking wombs is inherently misogynistic by the way, I thought you republicucks were trying to “protect women?”
And one’s chromosomes don’t make one lick of practical difference in everyday living, if you pass well enough no one will ever know, we don’t currently have chromosome scanners.
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>>279648642>being a pedophile is good, but only when it's me
>>279648724You're the freak who reduces women to being a stereotype.
>>279648642It makes me want to torture every last one beyond death.
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>>279648724I think I can tell just fine.
>>279648754It's also okay for other non offending anons.
>>279648766>You're the freak who reduces women to being a stereotype.Better that then being reduced to just your womb and pussies, ala just viewed as literal pieces of meat.
At least stereotypes are based on actual people and not body parts.
>>279648754That's right. I'm not sharing my lolis with anyone.
>>279647361>(he showed me thinking I was cool with that).You'll come around eventually lil zoom
>>279648841If we are "reducing" women to being adult humans with wombs, are we not also "reducing" men to being adult humans with testicles? Seriously why do you make such a retarded argument? Is this the sort of gotcha you freaks exchange on twitter?
>Better that thenSo you admit that your entire concept of women is just a stereotype, a caricature you have of what a woman is expected to be like. That is so hilarious.
>>279648800who, lawyer jews or what
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Reminder that if you’re a pedophile you indirectly support trans rights because being a pedophile means you’re specifically attracted to androgyny, so you instinctively recognize that genitals don’t matter and it’s hormones that give someone their neoteny or not.
>>279649005Good thing I support neither thing while simultaneously rejecting the false premise of every one of your arguments. Just use the men's room, Richard.
>>279649005>you’re a pedophile you indirectly support trans rights nope
>being a pedophile means you’re specifically attracted to androgynynope
>so you instinctively recognize that genitals don’t matter nope
>>279648901>So you admit that your entire concept of women is just a stereotype, a caricature you have of what a woman is expected to be like.No a woman is someone who looks like a woman, which can be achieved by hormones and surgery and genitals and wombs don’t matter.
>>279649045>source: he made it up to derail an already terrible thread
>>279649045>looks like a womanThat's your expectations, a stereotype. You're not very bright are you.
>>279649066Facial features aren’t a stereotype transphobe-kun.
>>279649117Yes they are, you're saying that exceptionally ugly women can't be women if they look like men. You're also saying that non passing trannies (all of them) aren't women.
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>>279649045This way of thinking is why traps who refuse to be assimilated are kryptonite for trannies like you.
>>279649005I'm a pedophile and I'm against trannies because they turn cute little boys that just happen to be gay or like "girly things" into chemically castrated eunuchs full of hormones and regrets. They are my enemies at an existential level.
>>27964791511 to 14yo girls look completely different and that's what most pedos are attracted to
Really need the jannies to nuke this thread
>>279645041Go to sadpanda, search for toddler and guro and you will find it almost instantly you lazy fuck
>>279646968>Japan does not and never will like or be okay with pedos. Also what the fuck are you talking about, sexual content is heavily restricted in Japan. Child pron is illegal.Oh yeah? Then how were manga like Usagi Drop and Kodomo no Jikan able to get published?
>>279647153>It's true that Japan is relatively speaking tolerant of pedophilia And incest apparently, which is why Texas had the right idea in banning anime. That entire country and its media needs to be quarantined off aside from the occasional battle shonen and Ghibli shit.
>>279647181Every time, the best thing about this is how mad it makes retards
>>279649548Slit your throat, normalnigger.
>>279649005>so you instinctively recognize that genitals don’t matter>instinctivelyno, your tranny and fag shit isn't instinct, it's mental illness
>>279649399no
we need a unhinged mod to perma the normalfags
and that includes the dub watcher
>>279649623Why don't you all learn hacking so we can forcibly purge this shit? I thought oldfags had more tricks up their sleeves?
>>279649623>permaban normalfagsBut then /dbs/ will cease to exist and that’s firmly embedded in /a/ culture by now.
>>279649753I don't care. Purge anything retarded about muh fictional minors.
>>279649753It's a cancer that needs to be cut out.
angelpoli turned 18 I'm so sad bros
>>279643040I don't know, but I know people who argue about this word always take the legal angle, which is besides the main point.
>>279647507>cunnyHere's that reddit meme again.
IP wipes are fascinating. How some fags are doing everything to bend towards their mentally ill narrative.
>>279650373Remember when using that would get you a autoban? I also remember the only accepted phrase was puffy vulva.
>>279647020Uhm you are in the site who had threads and threads of 3d shit. They even reached image limits... Back in 2010. And nobody gave a fuck. I realized 3d were very ugly, like watching little monkeys having sex. Totally the opposite to 2d perfect loli sex demons.
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>>279632288Why is she like this?
>>279652487I don't get it
How the fuck did a thread about lolis and lolicon suddenly turn into one about trannies?
>>279652487Pedos have very mana rich and tasty semen
>>279637166THE STRONGEST...
>>279648175sango from latest pogeymon
>>279632987>>279632987>If you're a man and get off to anime men you are homosexual, If you are a man and get of to anime children you are a podophile.I think there’s a much more pronounced difference between male and female anatomy. If you're into 2D males, it almost necessarily indicates a homosexual orientation. But the same can't be said about lolis, since they often display secondary sexual characteristics typical of adult women (basically just tiny women). Also, their genitals aren't inherently different from those of an adult woman, unlike with males.
>>279635664>/l/ probably got deleted because he got cold feet when he witnessed CP spam on /l/. (Is what they say.Nobody says this. /b/ had cp spam long before /l/ was made and yet deleted not once, but twice. Moot gave /l/ two chances and both times it got spammed with cp and pedo discussion. It was a failed experiment.
>>279646384>This is a cultural differenceWhat are you even talking about? "Pedophilia" is a term that comes straight from medical and psychiatric literature, and it’s universally used to define that specific paraphilia. In Japan, they use "pedophilia" as a clinical diagnosis, they do not use "lolicon". "Lolicon" is just a pop culture word.
>>279652487>it's so hard to find people that would lust over my bodyDo lolis really?
>>279653008they're the one translating it wrong to demonize consumers of japanese products
>>279626417Based knower. Which one do you go to? First 2 letters is enough.
>>279646516It exists in some form, I believe they don't do swimsuit shoots anymore (and they definitely don't do nude shoots anymore) but there are magazines that publish JS/JC models. They even have official twitter and instagram accounts
>>279648463Shipping only.
That's what CP stands for (カップリング)
You probably read that on a twitter bio so that means the account only posts shipping art.
>>279631198People with girlfriends are unable to enjoy anime?
I mean I guess anime girls seem less interesting when you can hold hands and cuddle with a 3d girl, but there's more to anime than gooning.
>>279631254yeah u jelly
>>279653790>demonize consumers of japanese productsHonestly they need to demonize the actual Japanese creators, they’re the source of all this degeneracy. It’s not western weebs fault that they’re weebs, they were groomed into it, like the children they try to groom, and so repeats this vicious cycle.
>>279624851 (OP)Jerking off to anime children does make you that
>>279655063sorry but japanese media was never meant for westerners
>>279655138>japanese media was never meant for westernersAgreed. So Texas trying to ban anime and manga is good actually right?
>>279653968That's not how the words CP or 固定 are used. CP doesn't mean shipping and 固定 doesn't mean "only". You sound like you don't know Japanese and just looked them up in a dictionary.
CP means pairing. 固定 means fixing something so it doesn't change.
CP固定 means "if I see a tweet of someone shipping a character I ship with someone other than the character I ship them with, I'm going to block that user and then cry".
>>279655145I don't care because I don't live in texas. New york and california have the biggest anime conventions and they sell doujinshi just fine
>>279624851 (OP)I mean to be fair. In the context of the show itself pedophile often makes more sense because to the characters the lolis they're lusting after are real people.
>>279651870Lying bitch. We didn't have actual CP being posted in dedicated threads reaching the bump limit. That was never allowed and never happened.
Almost all CP posted on this site is from 3rd world/russian malware spam bots. There was very rare instances of people posting CP, where they'd post like 4-5 and then it was wiped. It slipped under the radar sometimes because of lack of mod attention, but it absolutely NEVER was fucking reaching the bump limit with actual CP being posted the whole thread. I've been here since 2008
>then you are a TERF.
I wasn't expecting someone to cry about TERFs of all things in a thread like this.
>>279648518>Sexual dimorphism (the differences between the sexes and what codes someone as “male” or “female”) is ultimately a function of hormones, not genitals.And where are sex hormones produced if not in the genitals?
If you say "in pharmaceutical factories" and support trannifying children, you need to be shot.
>>279648518>Genitals in and of itself don’t change your outward looksYes they do you retarded tranny. How the fuck can you get this wrong?
>>279653381>it’s universally used to define that specific paraphilia.People sometimes use it as a general synonym for pervert, and even use it to refer to creepy old men with young wives that are over eighteen. Moreover, it's very commonly used towards hebephiles and ephebophiles. So it absolutely is not universally used to refer to the attraction which psychiatrists use it for.
>In Japan, they use "pedophilia" as a clinical diagnosis, they do not use "lolicon".So translate it as pedo then.
>>279655063>they were groomed into it, like the children they try to groom,You're basically the seem as the leftists who claim that anyone who disagrees with them is an indoctrinated far right bigot. You are clearly incapable of comprehending the fact that ordinary people think something you don't like.
>>279624851 (OP)It's terrible they mistranslation like that.
The correct literal translation is lolicon=distinguished patrician gentleman with fined taste
>>279655145>censorship is goodNo it's not but thanks for revealing yourself
>>279653205>But the same can't be said about lolisBecause you're a normalfag and are only used to fake lolis in isekai and other shounen. In a lot of lolicon art they're dressed in seifuku or something similarly childish with childlike dialogue and depicted in a way that makes it clear that they're children. Drawings like
>>279649694 often don't get tagged as lolicon.
>most of the poster favoring the "pedophile" translation are not moralfags, but actual pedos who want to push their desperate narrative
>>279655633You werent here enough nigga, I saw it plenty of times specially after 2 am. Mods didnt give a fuck, then it became less and less common. Then we just had some in christmas when everyone were having dinner and mods were away. Then they started moving to shitty slow boards. I think it was the reason they implemented the catalog because whenever they reach image limit every post was saged and didnt reach the first page. I even remember they hide them in boring ass 2 hours videos in youtube they linked here. Fucking noob.
>>279655633>I've been here since 2008And you were a kid back then. You were never for the late night threads that would get ripped when morning came.
>>279626483>hated lolifagsI bet you only read the screenshot out of context. His problem was not loli itself, but the blatant CP being posted and getting his ass burned for it. When he said he didn't like loli, he was referring to /loli/ the board dedicated to loli stuff.
And contrary to twitter belief, /loli/ was not a containment board, since loli was still allowed on other boards. Not like /mlp/, that gets you banned for posting /mlp/ outside of it.
>>279629195It's not. You wouldn't understand.
>>279658634>calling it /loli/Newfags are so funny. Anyway, whatever drives the dumb election tourists away. 4chan was, and still is, decidedly pro loli.
>>279657249Not him but I'm sick of you acting like you're superior to people who actually prefer lolis for their physical appearance. If you actually loved them you would prefer them to be adult in age and mental maturity but you just want to take advantage of them so you're attracted to young age and mental immaturity instead. It makes me doubt you even actually have a preference for their physical appearance. You're pretending that those girls in that image aren't loli when they clearly are. You probably tell yourself you prefer girls with heads the size of their (square) torso just to convince yourself what a true pedo you are. Stop being an elitist for the sake of being one. But you're not going to listen and will instead double-down and will from now on think you have a preference for even bigger heads and squarer torsos than you already think you do and will shun anyone who doesn't like them the same or bigger/squarer just to feel superior about something.
>>279658634There was a video from a con where someone asked moot to bring back /l/ and his response was just "fuck pedophiles".
>>279657099>So translate it as pedo then.The Japanese are fully familiar with the term pedophilia. If they deliberately choose not to use the clinical designation and instead go with a vaguer, informal and with softer connotation term like lolicon, then there’s no reason to override that choice in the target language. It’s like translating 'genocide' as 'slaughter': while they may refer to similar acts, the former carries far more weight.
>>279658933You're making up shit.
>>279659696I'm not. And everyone applauded too. It's literally the entire reason why I hate that faggot.
>>279629206Today I'll remind them.
>>279625485Because that’s not what lolicon means.
Image: non-anime graph showing different tiers of argumentation with “refute the central point” at the top.
>moot was a normalfag
in other news, jannies do it for free
>>279659039>If they deliberately choose not to use the clinical designationPeople speak in the ordinary established way and usually don't make adjustments. In Japanese the ordinary word is lolicon and in English the ordinary word is pedophile. You're attaching much more weight to them having a separate word than it really has. At the end of the day lolicon means pedophile. English just doesn't have a more casual form because pedophilia is regarded as a much more offensive moral crime.
> It’s like translating 'genocide' as 'slaughter': while they may refer to similar acts,That's a very retarded and false example. If you genuinely think lolicon is to pedophile in Japanese as slaughter is to genocide in English then you're just very wrong.
>>279659749>I hate him because he hated pedos like me ;_;
>>279659808This one is funnier
>>279658834This elitism is just something you made up because you're that insecure about your own tastes. That image does contain lolis but it is false to say it's a representation for the average lolicon art.
>If you actually loved them you would prefer them to be adult in age and mental maturity but you just want to take advantage of them so you're attracted to young age and mental immaturity instead.Well have you ever socialized with adult women?
>>279657526The "narrative" is the truth.
>>279660514You're just desperate and basically chose to attack anime in exactly the same way moralfags do. You even try to use shame and guilt. You're disgusting.
>>279660255>This elitism is just something you made up because you're that insecure about your own tastes.No, you called him a normalfag, you were looking down on him as an inferior "fake lolicon", "ironic lolicon", whatever you prefer to call them.
>That image does contain lolis but it is false to say it's a representation for the average lolicon art.It isn't. Lolis like them are the most popular. And not tagging as loli is something that's true for lolis of all apparent ages.
>Well have you ever socialized with adult women?There's no reason fictional adult women have to be like real adult women and in manga and anime they usually in fact aren't.
>>279660560>attack>shame and guiltNo one is doing anything like that. You're a schizo.
>>279624851 (OP)what would a better translation be?
>>279660575If that's what you call elitism. he's acting like that's an ordinary representation of lolicon and that's clearly wrong so he likely doesn't watch a lot of lolicon shows and look at lolicon art.
>Lolis like them are the most popular.Because that body type is the most popular so you can just call anything like that lolicon and thus say it's the most popular form of lolicon
>There's no reason fictional adult women have to be like real adult womenSo write them as little children, that doesn't make any sense when you can just say you prefer a particular age.
>>279660592The entire ironic lolicon meme, which was perpetuated by your side, was about declaring lolicons who didn't agree with you to some sort of inferior, mentally ill being, who lives in a pitiful state. Much like normalfags see (You). I don't even blame you. You're the typical victim turned offender.
What about all these accusations of denial?
Your actual goal, which is unrelated to anime, is too obvious too.
>>279660731That loser lrd doesn't post here anymore. You no longer get to bring him up and use his retardation for ad hom to defend your position.
>You're the typical victim turned offender.What do you mean by offender?
>>279660786You don't need to bring up schizos out of the nowhere either. The ironic lolicon meme came from somewhere else.
>What do you mean by offender?Using the same evil methods that were used against you. Look at Israel.
>>279660676It's loli. I won't try any harder to force you to acknowledge that though.
>So write them as little children, that doesn't make any sense when you can just say you prefer a particular age.I'm not even saying they should be childlike though. I prefer for them to be mentally mature. I thought what you were implying with the question is that real life women are insufferable retards, and they are, but that's not because of being mentally mature itself. To begin with few real life adult women are even mentally mature. If there's an adult woman and a child who's less retarded than that adult woman, fucking the adult woman is more morally wrong than fucking the child.
>>279660840>The ironic lolicon memeSo you knew exactly what you were doing when you brought that up.
>>279660841Why don'y you just say you like petite anime women? Why do you need to call them lolis?
>To begin with few real life adult women are even mentally mature. That doesn't make any sense.
>>279661124Because I have little interest in petite anime women. I prefer girls who look 10-14, it's not the same thing. And apparent age of 10-14 falls under loli.
>That doesn't make any sense.How so? Women can be mentally immature and they usually are. They fall for the most basic brainwashing and give knee-jerk reactions according to it. See how most of them are extremely anti-pedo pro-trans radical feminists. And even besides that they're usually just annoying and not too bright.
Reminder that there are entire communities of pedos being butthurt at lolicons for not being the same as them.
>>279661387Those could be easily petite women you just want to use the word loli. You've already said you dislike how actually children act so it doesn't make any sense.
>How so?Because according to you most women are immature, that doesn't make sense biologically.
>>279661462They are also called lolis. Deal with it. If you don't like the word loli, just use "child" like the rest of your pedo friends.
>>279661443And there are far more non 3d attracted lolicons who are mad at other lolicons for refusing to change what a japanese word means
>>279661483If you don't like the personalities of lolis, stop calling yourself a lolicon.
>>279661501Why are they (you) mad? That's right, because they care more for their pedo identity and real kids than anime. Anime as a whole is only a surrogate for you, because the real thing is too troublesome legally.
>>279661462They're lolis. Sorry if you don't like that what I like falls under the meaning of the word I guess.
>>279661518But I do like the personalities of lolis, ones who are mentally mature. I'm a lolicon.
>>279661535Generally, when a bunch of retards try to change the meaning of a word to suit themselves, it causes a lot of anger from others. The derailing about trannies itt is another example of this. It's really weird how every time this discussion comes up you aggressively accuse everyone who disagrees with you as just using anime for some politics. Like nice projection. Someone else from your ilk in this thread basically admitted to going onto 3d sites.
>>279661574It does fall under the meaning of the word, the same was lolibabas do. But it's more removed from the basic meaning.
>ones who are mentally mature. So ones that are identical in behavior and looks to adult characters.
>>279661584You're doing the derailment. Remember nu-LRD? He was a pathetic loser who seethed at anyone not being pedo enough and was shitting up loli threads for years with his cope. Now he most likely killed himself. You're as pathetic as him.
>>279661602>So ones that are identical in behavior and looks to adult characters.No, ones who look 10-14 years old, like I said.
>>279661608>desperately brings up one of the lrds againSorry but you don't get to do this anymore.
>>279661631He was a good example. You will forever be mad at lolicons for not taking part in your pedo activism. And then you will kill yourself.
>>279661617So identical to an anime representation of petite asian women, in looks and personality.
>>279661649No but you'll always be massively offended and angry at people using words right and not accepting your demands
>>279661674>No but you'll always be massively offended and angry at people using words right and not accepting your demandsIsn't that what you are doing?
>>279661650No, there's a difference in appearance between a anime representation of a petite Asian woman and a 10-14 year old girl.
>>279661734What's the difference? There are so many adult characters that intentionally look the same as children.
>shitposting bait thread allowed to get archived
The mods have completely given up, huh.
>>279661743If they look the same as children then they're loli.
>>279661775It keeps certain retards busy and contained.
>>279661782And keeps making them come back.
>>279661443https://wiki,yesmap,net/wiki/Memes_and_Graphics
>straight pedos are faggots that post wojaks and engage in discord-tier psyopshttps://www,boywiki,org/media/Main_Page
https://greek-love,com/index.php/sitemap?view=html&id=1
>gay pedos are cultured men that collect works of art and literature, and write essays about them and the history of "boy love"Just more proof that shotacon is the thinking man's genre.
>>279662140That's why these types of posters are fucking losers.
All they can do is shitting up anime with tourist garbage.
I bet ABIB protected this thread. He's one of those moralfags who love when actual pedos are talking.