Chapter 41 just got release; Dumping

>>279701641 (OP)
Here we goooo

>Haru and Yuki lost track of Hikari after the rejection, and texted Aya for help
>Aya says she's got it

Hikari really is going on her villain arc

Hikari is crashing out! Let's Go

>yami still persists that he's just one of the boys she fooled around
Kek

Yami is also crashing out

>>279701806
With context that makes sense. Without context that doesn't make any sense.

It's so over, Yamibros.

>The only reason Hikari started liking him was because after sleeping with me, he finally became a real man, right?
>He should be thanking me, honestly…
>If he had never known a woman, he would've stayed the same lame guy who wouldn’t have even looked at someone like Hikari.
LMAOOOOO

Here's how Yami can still win:
pity

>>279701970
Yami won

Yamichads we won

>>279701939
>If you’re afraid of having him taken from you—
>Then tie him down with your body!
AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>279701970
Catfight fucking when

>>279701970
>you should be grateful...

I have no idea what's going on, and everyone's posts are confusing me further.

>>279702126
Mutual woman moment, don't try to make sense of it

Schizo chapter

>>279701641 (OP)
stab time

>>279701970
She's unironically right. Angry women are so good at being brutally honest.

>Thanks me for fucking your boyfriend.
What did Yami mean by that?

>>279702126
Yami broke down and gave yuu the goodbye she didn't give a year prior, Hikari saw the goodbye but didn't actually hear anything and thinks (rightfully) that yuu and yami still have some feelings for each other. She calls yuu out on it because he's confessing that he's always had eyes for her. The two confront each other now, but yami seems intent on burning her bridges out of self destructive habits, a bit of jealousy, and guilt. Yuu continues to be a non character. So in short it's danseimuke love triangle bullshit.

Yami fell in love with him before he "became a real man"
In other words, Yami's love is more genuine than Hikari's.
BUT, Yami has a bad tendency to ruin her own life for no reason.

>>279702126
I can somewhat read the moon, but it's still confusing because Yami's thoughts and actions aren't lining up. She's pretending that her thing with Yuu was just a fling, and trying not to lose Hikari as a friend, but Hikari is seeing right through her, saying she knows Aya isn't bad like that, trying to make her admit the relationship was real, and getting annoyed that Yami keeps trying to diss Yuu to make it sound like she doesn't care.

>>279701970
Truth but they're not ready for it

>>279702318
Oh, and I guess this means Yami wasn't aware that Hikari saw the kiss after all? Otherwise she should know that pretending not to care isn't gonna work, and this keikaku has too many layers for me to figure out right away.

>>279702369
Oh nevermind, the novel version confirms she knew Hikari was watching.

>>279702477
>she knew Hikari was watching
Mangadex readers blown the fuck out

>>279702500
We been knew this

>>279702506
They tried to pressure the translator to change it

>>279702526
He did change it

>>279701939
>>279701962
Brutal

>>279702262
>>279702318
Yeah, I made a MTL and I get it. It's what I expected except for the last line. That's pretty clunky. I see what he's going for but it didn't land.
https://pastebin.com/GN1t44ww

>>279702616
>But… if she could just accept this. Pretend it didn’t happen.
>If she could keep being my friend—

>Then I swear I’ll stop.
>I’ll forget it.
>I’ll never see Yuu again.

>I’ll go back to supporting Hikari’s love.
>I won’t interfere. I’ll keep my distance.

>So please—please forgive me.
LOL Yami is stupid bitch

>>279702707
Yami would definitely be the type of person to Kiss another girl's boyfriend. She ain't letting Yuu go no matter what

>>279701970
>he would've stayed the same lame guy who wouldn’t have even looked at someone like Hikari
Think you got that backwards, Yami troon. He was always looking at Hikari well before meeting Yami, it's Hikari who wasn't looking at him.

>>279702761
Yami is saying that Hikari would never have looked at Yuu if Yami never corrupted him

>>279702707
To be fair, that was Hikari's plan as well (until it wasn't). It was Yuu's too.

>>279702777
Cool, that's not what the dekinai I quoted said.

Is over

>“Come on, Hikari… the only reason you even *noticed* him was because he’d been with me. Because I turned him into someone worth noticing, right?”

>“Wh—”

>Even if I’m trashing the guy she loved.
>Even if I’m tearing down her first love.

>Even if shame is eating me alive.

>“If he hadn’t had sex with me first, he’d still be that awkward loser who never would’ve looked at you.”

>I know I’m wrong.
>I know I’m awful.

>“You should be *grateful*, honestly—”
What a fucking whore

>>279702777
Yeah, trying to follow this conversation with MTL is extra hellish with the layers of pretend going on.

Man this really is discount white album 2. It's like the author wrote both Kazusa and Setsuna into Yami and forgot to fill in Hikari and the boring dude

>>279702833
This shit better be weekly after it comes back. Holy fuck

>>279702833
whys everything monthly now? holy shit the only weeklies im left with now are drama queen and centuria.

>>279702833
Aaaaarrrrrgh

>>279701641 (OP)
I can admit that I was wrong. I completely expected to return to Hikari and Yuu in the backroom, and thought there wasn't a chance Maruto would not have Yuu attempt to explain himself or go after her. My fault, I gave Yuu too much credit and assumed he had agency as a major character.

>>279702833
curious what the spinoff filler novel will be about, hopefully he'll use this opportunity to flesh out something of the things that need it

>>279702616
Thank you.

this manga makes me feel bad

>>279702926
>I gave Yuu too much credit and assumed he had agency
Just be wary of the sunk cost contrarians that will definitely still continue defending him as a worthy object of affection. Also be aware of the author who's definitely going to retcon things to twist him into being a misunderstood chad.

>>279701970
>>279702839
By that logic, being with him turned her into someone worthy of Hikari's friendship and affection, right? It cuts both ways. Yami doesn't hesitate to throw herself a pity party at every opportunity, but I think if someone tried to make her admit that her only real friendship she had was something she couldn't throw away, the resulting crashout would be apocalyptic.

>>279701939
>just be a whore!!
Woman moment

>>279702833
Come on.

>>279701939
God. I love Hikari's angry face.

>>279703247
All Hikari had to do was comprimise. And she would have won.

>>279703880
Never compromise.

Also in case you haven't heard, the serialized light novel which is written from scratch will start publishing this August

CATFIGHT!

>>279701843
oh fuck

i kinda dont like how yom draws new noses

>>279702318
So let me see if I've got this straight:
>Yami is pretending her relationship with Yuu was just a fling that she forgot about until today, and hoping Hikari will play along, even though she saw how intense their breakup was
>this is supposed to help her keep Hikari as a friend, even though it makes her look skankier, and she keeps doubling down on it and painting herself bitchier when Hikari calls her bullshit
>Hikari is having none of it, and locks onto the truth that 1) Yami x Yuu had real mutual feelings, 2) Yami hid it to spare Hikari from hurt, 3) Yami still has feelings for him, and 4) Continuing to lie is hurting herself and dissing Yuu.
>For some reason, Yami thinks admitting this would be more damaging to their friendship than pretending to be a slut who toyed with Yuu. Maybe because it'd mean she still has feelings for him, rather than it being over? She thinks Hikari's questions seem nice on the surface, but are purposely cornering her to make her admit her betrayal.
>She knew Hikari was watching when she went for the kiss, but Hikari doesn't know that. So I think she's reading too much into Hikari's motives for digging, and Hikari really does think Yami was being nice.
Overall, I think all the confusion is in Yami's head, and she's operating on so many layers of deceit that even she can't keep track, so her maneuvers end up making no sense from the outside.

>>279702318
hikari proving herself best girl once again, setting aside her love for yuu to defend him as an old friend. and she's right, what yami did to him was cruel and it's long overdue for someone to take her to task for it

>>279704035
UNLESS Yami's instincts are right, and Hikari wants to confirm their affair was real because it would mark Yami as a bigger threat in her eyes.

>>279702926
should've checked out of him at least once they showed the classroom scene was all a yami spotlight moment, dude's just a prop

>>279704035
calling it deceit feels like it implies more of a conscious plan, this is just an emotional visceral reaction to being in what feels like a no-win situation

>>279704129
She's not saying anything about the way she treated him cause she'd have no way of knowing, though

>>279704220
Good point. This is basically present-Yami desperately trying to cover up past-Yami's shit after she showed her whole ass in the heat of the moment, even though she knows it's a long shot and relies on Hikari playing along to let her off the hook.

All Hikari needs to do is date Yuu and forbid Yami from coming near him or her ever again.

This manga just got too retarded honestly, was hoping for School Days ending, instead is shoujo bullshit.

Why is this bitch so needlessly deceitful even with her best friend, even when caught in the act?
Hikari needs to slap the shit out of her already.

>>279704506
>was hoping for School Days ending
That was never going to happen lmao, author isn't that based.

>>279704582
She can't accept good things in her life, I do agree Hikari needs to slap her.

>>279701779
First line here really got her under Ayami's skin lmao. Mindbroken and seething.

>>279704506
If a School Days (anime) ending happened it'd just be one or both of the girls killing each other

>>279704641
>Hikari: I know Aya-chan isn't that sort of person, you know?
>Yami: No, that's...
>Hikari: I know you were a nice girl from before we met
>Yami: That's not it
>Hikari: So you should just be proud... so then why are you apologizing so much?
>Yami: Well that's because... I toyed with your boyfriend...

>>279704859
The progression from there is crazy, she was read like a book.

>>279701641 (OP)
>mfw chapter title is "zenbu, kowareteru"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kguaGI7aZg

>>279701970
>If he had never known a woman, he would've stayed the same lame guy who wouldn’t have even looked at someone like Hikari.
truth bomb

>>279701939
>>279701970
Beat her ass Hikari!

>>279705206
No, she is retarded, he was always looking at Hikari.

>>279704859
Hikari is my hero.

Hikari just needs to beat the shit out of her

>>279701641 (OP)
nihongo wakanai!

>>279705335
She probably can but that's too easy.

>>279701641 (OP)
omg what a drama queen. The matter is already resolved, yami already had her closure. Hikari is just looking for a fight for no reason

>>279705206
Just because you're afraid something is true doesn't make it true

>>279704220
Yes and notice how yami is drawn the same as when she spilled her spaghetti to yuu last chapter

SLAP THE BITCH ALREADY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!1

>>279705493
>Best friends lied to me for over a year to my face
Nah, I would be pissed too

>>279705776
but she didnt tho? she only recently knew that yuu and taakun are the same person

>>279701843
Yom really went all out drawing the facial expressions in the last 3 chapters.

>>279705893
So much he died >>279702833

where is english

This chapter should have been really cathartic and the culmination of the story so far where every comes to light in their confrontation, and yet it felt flat somehow, I wonder why.
Maybe the author simply teased this shit too much and all the flashback just killed the momentum.

This manga is being hamstringed by Yom's half-assed effort. I bet the LN will be a much better read

>>279706220
Hikari didn't slap Yami for her bullshit

>>279706220
the yami-hikari relationship is too underdeveloped for it to matter, it's only the culmination for people really invested in the tribal fandom aspect.

>>279706266
The art is the only good thing about this shitfest. Get better bait, retard.

>>279706266
This would be better as a visual novel but you wouldn't get this engagement with one

>>279706501
Maruto doesn't need this meme artist to write kino, he's the one heavy lifting this shift.

>>279706468
Yet people hated every new chapter they spent on how Yami and Hikari became friends. There was no winning with this short, spaced-out format.

>>279706628
>Maruto
>kino
You mean bottom of the barrel telenovela slop featuring a bland doormat self-insert male so it's even more insanely unbelievable.

Women moment: the chapter

>>279706686
looks like kino to me

>>279706638
because they happened after the kiss and people were desperate to get back to the payoff of it.
>There was no winning with this short, spaced-out format.
agreed, though i think they way they did it ended up being the worst of both worlds

Will Hikari actually fight Yami soon? I need her to crashout for the betrayal.

>>279706686
Kino

>>279701806
hikari looks like a jedi
kinda silly

TL out, dumping

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>>279707541

>>279707590

>>279707614

>>279707637

>>279707656
She’s such a terrible liar, I hope Hikari can beat her ass

>>279707656

>>279707681
>>279707672
I hope you kill yourself tumor

>>279707700
Shots fired

>>279707700

why would yami trust the relationship between a man and a woman after seeing what her parents went through
of course she'd prioritize hikari

>>279707720

>>279707745

>>279707765

>>279707700
Hikari needs to be more aggressive and ruthless if she wants to win.

>>279707720
>>279707745
Like is a good example of Hikari not taking any shit. We need to see that more.

>>279707672
Weren't you the one who thought hikari was stupid for not accepting the confession

>>279707796

>>279707819
>>279707798
It's basic etiquete to not reply with images during a dump, jesus

>>279707845
Now we wait. It seems like all of this was the initial proposal, I don't know if he was being humorous or not but Maruto said they don't really know what to do from now on on twitter, lol

>>279707845
>>279707888
LOOK AT YAMI CALLING HIKARI BLACK

>>279707845
Yami is right

>mangadex users are shocked that their fanfiction of after-the-fact narration is in fact, fanfic and not real

>>279707845
Why does she want Hikari to fuck the boy she loves?

>>279707952
>after-the-fact narration
People actually believed that? I thought that was them taking the piss.

>>279707888
Holy Jesus Maruto, don't say that shit out loud!

>>279707983
>People actually believed that
Yamifags in severe denial that Yami is a shit person

>>279707953
Yami doesnt believe she deserves nice things, but at the same time can't help herself from wanting them and reaching out in the moment, only to feel bad for doing so after the fact. Pretty basic low-self esteem behavior

>>279707994
Now the ride really begins

>>279708022
That's a Hikarifag you retard

>>279707994
For any criticism of Maruto's writing I have, I do appreciate his facetious commentary and the people who take his words at face value.

>>279707953
She thinks she doesn't deserves to be happy. She thinks that by helping Hikari with Yuu she can make her friend happy while also punishing herself, basically she wants to be a martyr

Seems to me that Hikari still hasn't realized that Yuu just isn't a good friend and her feelings in that respect are incredibly one sided. Even with her now seeing him in a romantic light, she's still trying to consider his feelings. He just isn't doing that toward her. Hikari truly is way too good for this bullshit, and I get the feeling that the author isn't treating that with the gravity it deserves.

>>279707845
>>279707888
Real talk: Hikari should be the bigger person and let Yami and Yuu be together.

>>279708040
Honestly, while this was pretty good sufferingkino, I still think the best was in KT. Saying his goodbyes to Takeya, Setsuna's family, and all his friends from work was some genuinely heartrending stuff jeez. Gave up single thing in life jusr for Kazusa

>>279708079
He literally also said on twitter that one of the reasons they're taking the hiatus is to plan for part four

>>279708135
Haruki's breakdown on the airplane at the very end is one my absolute favorite scenes.

>>279708191
I'm aware of that.

>>279707724
Because she was fruit of one that lasted for at least 14~15 yeras until her father passed from cancer? Her life wasn't garbage for all of it.

>>279708228
>mfw I can't be guitar-kun anymore

>>279707845
>tries to de-escalate and ask for forgiveness
>Hikari refuses to let it go and keeps lecturing her while pouring salt into her wounds
Yami unironically did nothing wrong

>>279702477
Someone corroborate this anon’s claim?

>>279707720
>excuses making less and less sense as she squirms under questioning
Okay, this conversation's way easier to follow with a proper translation, so you can take it in at a natural speed without puzzling over every line. Aya's strategy is still pretty weird though, especially if you still aren't sure if she knew Hikari was watching in the previous chapter. The novel version sorta helps by clarifying that she did know, and regretted it afterward, and is hoping Hikari just humors the slutty cover story, but c'mon, that was never gonna happen.

>Reddit thread
>Everyone praising Hikari's character growth and development
>character growth and development
>growth
>development
Is she not the same pure, incorruptible ball of goodness as before?

>>279708301
>de-escalate
>by lying about her own feelings and putting Yuu down
I'm a yamifag but she's 100% in the wrong here, the fact she can't be completely honest about her feelings is core to her character. Hikari not compromising with Yuu's feelings is the outlier here, which is a good thing since now one of them has a spine

>>279708365
There's also the fact that Yami freaked out over Yuu's accepting her lies at face value and proceeded to knowingly kiss him in front of Hikari which kicked all this off. It's not really a situation she can flippantly backtrack from.

>>279708365
Honesty isn't a good thing. Burying your unfulfillable feelings of love and moving on is a sign of maturity.
Hikari is just selfishly forcing her own values onto Yami by getting her to confront her feelings. Their friendship will be burnt to the ground but hey, at least she got this one moment of catharsis out of it.

>>279707994
>>279708191
Marketwise I think this is a huge blunder because a significant chunk of sunk-cost readers are going to take this cue to drop it. Others may just cool on it during the hiatus.

Yom said it was partly to prepare for C106 in >>279702833, right? Looks like that's in mid-August, so we might be looking at a 2-month break at least? At least it sounds like a sidestory novel will be having chapters released during this period.

>>279708548
Playing devil's advocate at this point just makes you look like a retard, you know that, right?

>>279708548
>Burying your unfulfillable feelings of love and moving on is a sign of maturity.
These are kids in high school, and unlike the other two sluts this is Hikari's first time at romance so of course she'd be chasing that fairytale ending where everyone is happy kinda like Setsuna True, except even in that you know Haruki and Kazusa are seething on the inside but can't see a better way out
>Their friendship will be burnt to the ground
Sounds like good storytelling to me. If this ends with a happy ending for all three main characters it'd leave a badbtaste in my mouth

>>279708345
Reddit is just happy that Hikari gets to morally slam dunk Yami and show how good of a person she is.

>>279707845
>>279707888

>>279708634
>Reddit is just happy that Hikari gets to morally slam dunk Yami and show how good of a person she is.
Literally a summary of the last 11 chapters of discussion over there.

>>279706686
Haruki clears tf out of Yuu

>>279708634
>the girl I'm shipping is very clearly a whore and an awful person and there's no logical argument against that any more, better call the opposition reddit

>>279708631
>devil's advocate
I'm just not a fan of self-righteous characters. It's clear the narrative is trying to push Hikari as the "correct" one but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Yami just feels more human to me.

Like, come on now. Reddit is full of roasties and their orbiter sympathizers only until the girl you ship becomes an undeniable roastoid, and now reddit is full of trad virgin girl sympathizers? Think before you projectile diarrhea onto the keyboard.

>a deep romantic relationship requires sexual contact with each other you idiot
erm...this is a jab at other japanese romance manga / LNs isn't it

>>279708345
Yep. She is still a saint by this point, after all that happened she's still out there defending both her friends over herself for reasons beyond our comprehensions. She inherited the most annoying trait of Setsuna but isn't knowingly playing it to her benefit, so this isn't even crunchy drama, it's just something so blatantly made to maximize the dramatic outcomes by characters making all the most questionable choices it comes across as stupid.
And exaggerating and dragging things for so long changed this from some sort of tragedy to a comedy.

>>279708301
The funny part is how "de-escalate" takes the form of doubling down on the floozy slut persona here. I still don't get why she figures Hikari is MORE likely to stay friends in that scenario. Maybe it's not that she expects Hikari to actually believe it (since Hikari saw the breakup kiss), but that if Hikari knows it's a cover story, and knows Yami is giving up Yuu for her, she might just play along to put it behind them.

But that would be like Hikari accepting Yuu's confession for expedience, and Hikari's already decided she isn't going to eat that shit quietly.

>>279701970
>They hated her because she said the truth

>>279708762
Self-righteousness has an inbuilt condition that the feelings of righteousness are unfounded, which is clearly not the case here. Yami is a shit human being, what she did was not by mistake, she did what she did knowing Hikari was watching, and now thinks hiding behind a reatard-tier lie is going to stop her impending loneliness.

>>279708815
Bold of you to assume Yami thinks.

>>279707845
would have been better as "if you're that scared of him being taken away then you should have fucked him too"

>>279708805
Ironic you post an umamusume gif with this

>>279708868
is there romance in that show? i never watched it or play gacha, i just think the gif is funny

>>279708895
No it's just another idol-ish franchise except that making R-18 fan contents of it is banned by the ip holders cause the girls are based off real horses

>Progress is already at a snail's pace
>Going on hiatus
>WN will reboot
Jesus, I guess it will re-check on this in a year to see what happened.

>>279708228
>When Haruki gets beaten up Setsuna's brother, makes her mother cry, and disappoints her dad

>>279708830
Self-righteousness is simply the belief in your own moral superiority. Even if Hikari has the moral high ground, it's still not pleasant watching her force her values onto Yami (who clearly just wants to move on). Forcing Yami to dig up the ugliness she wants to hide is simply a humiliation ritual that doubles as Hikari's victory lap.

>Who you prefered in WA2 / Saranami
>Kazusa / Yami - 45%
>Kazusa / Hikari - 17%
>Setsuna / Yami - 19%
>Setsuna / Hikari - 19%
This was after previous chapter.

>>279708969
Yami doesn't actually want to move on though

Hikari needs to cut these two toxic people out of her life already

>>279708852
There is a thought process of sorts in the novel.

>>279708928
I thought it was about the literal yakuza coming after you if you sexualized their horses.

>>279708135
Then some epilogues later... Nothing happened!

Wowzers

>>279706735
Nah, that would be both of them being fake the whole time.

>>279702032
She reminds me so much of my ex that it’s scary.

>>279708634
Yami is just an awful person, there is no getting around that.
She deserves a shit life alone

>>279702318
>because Yami's thoughts and actions aren't lining up.
That's every chapter with her.

In WA2 I was deeply into Kazusa and gave zero quarter to Setsuna who I thought was an absolute sociopathic hoe, but why am I inclining to Yami in this? Am I just a lowly weeb into silky black hair? Or maybe a nonchalant yet fragile cool character...

>>279709035
>disregarding Youko's effort because it wasn't expanded upon
Not everything has to be spoonfed to you anon. Setsuna True is still the worst route because everything gets magically resolved through the power of "friendship" and "gratitude" while Haruki and Kazusa are left with no resolution to their emotions.

>>279709009
>Kazusa/Yami domination
Yeah, that figures. Although it's interesting that the other combos are roughly even with each other, rather than coalesced on Setsuna/Hikari.

>Kazusafags tend to be mostly Yamifags, and vice-versa
>Setsunafags split evenly between Yami and Hikari
>Hikarifags split sorta evenly between Setsuna and Kazusa, with a slight edge to Setsuna

>>279708969
>Self-righteousness is simply the belief in your own moral superiority
>simply
Except it's not, as I already told you. There's the condition that self-righteousness is unfounded righteousness, which just isn't true in Hikari's case. And even then, she's not doing it out of a moral sense of superiority, she's doing it because she's hurt and wouldn't even think to do the awful shit that Yami has done toward her. You finding the behavior unpleasant doesn't mean she's wrong and unjustified. I think you're just mad that your chosen girl is a piece of shit and there's nothing sensible you can do to say otherwise.

>>279709087
ST is so garbage it never really got a proper epilogue chapter.

>We are not getting a KINO School Days ending
What a faggot writer

>>279709084

>>279709009
Holy shit literally me LMAO duplicitous yet irresistible, I think it's about character.

>>279709084
Yami has Kazusa's backstory + Setsuna's manipulative traits. Hakuri is just "good" in comparison. Yami is by far the most interesting character

>>279709087
Setsuna True is Setsuna finding the leash to keep Kazusa suffering (helping her out with her mom) and never letting it go

It's just not as satisfying as Haruki finally stepping up and doing things the right way in KT, or Kazusa cutting off their affair after seeing how much Haruki is suffering over it.

>>279709009
Kazusachads never stop winning

Does anyone actually want Hikari to end up with that pathetic faggot Yuu and that whore's sloppy seconds though?
I mean, she should just cut her loses and hook up with that Chad that has been asking her out instead.
It will seem beneath her to some how get involved in this shit, like she would literally show zero self respect.

>kazusaniggers are yaminiggers
pottery

>>279709253
>Does anyone actually want Hikari to end up with that pathetic faggot Yuu and that whore's sloppy seconds though?
Yes, unfortunately. Saying that Yuu doesn't deserve her really pisses off the self-inserters.

>>279709283
He doesn't, he is a piece of shit, him and that whore deserve each other's toxic nature.

>>279709106
Self-righteousness has the connotation of unfounded righteousness but it's not strictly part of the definition. If the semantics bother you that much, I'll switch to sanctimonious or a holier-than-thou attitude.
No doubt Hikari isn't actually lecturing Yami because she feels morally superior. The archetypical good girl would never have such a banal motivation. Instead the sanctimony is implicit in her own actions. If Hikari was truly a good person she would've looked past Yami's misdeeds and forgiven her. Instead she thoroughly exposes Yami's ugliness, because her own philosophy of honesty is clearly superior while Yami's way of living needs to be changed to follow suit.
For Hikari's moral victory to be complete, Yami needs to be dragged into the mud. That's what I'm not a fan of since I actually find Yami's actions to be sympathetic and realistic. This kind of humiliation ritual is standard practice for romcoms though so there's no helping it.

>>279709354
>This kind of humiliation ritual is standard practice for romcoms though
Oh, you're the romcom schizo. Should have just said so.

>>279709354
Why do you hate lying women getting the bad treatment?

>>279709009
Disingenuous poll.
People are forced to choose a side for Saranami given the choices here, but as a Kazusafag, I wouldn't even pick anyone in this bootleg manga. It's just that Yami is the most likely option if I absolutely have to choose because Yuu is a non character along with Hikari being completely a one-dimensional goody two shoes.

>>279709354
I don't think you're reading Hikari character right in this case and that's because, as someone pointed out ITT, their relationship is underdeveloped. They're supposed to be best friends, closer than anyone else, Hikari wants to believe in Aya-chan and wants to know what's up and she doesn't want to see her friend putting herself or Yuu down like that.

>>279709381
You didn't vote anyway, promlem solved.

>>279709009
Why do people like the homewrecker bitch instead of the cute CF? are men retarded?

>>279709407
I can fix her. She needs me.

Yami consoling Yuu after Hikari tried to grow a spine will be kino

>>279709009
Yami won

>>279707845
By that same logic yami should fuck hikari to not lose her

>>279709378
Even lying women deserve to keep some dignity. Getting caught is already bad enough.

>>279709395
Except I did faggot. Even one of the comments there are mentioning about not having an option they could choose.

>>279709407
No, but you are though

>>279709449
HOLY FUCKING KINO

Can Hikari just beat the shit out of her already, I’m sure she even wants that.
If she is not going to stab her, she at least needs a beating.

God I want to nut inside crying hysterical Yami so badly

I don’t get people being mad at Hikari for supposedly talking shit to her, like bitch, she just found her two best friends were fucking and lying to her face for a long ass time.
It’s understandable for her to be upset and blow some steam.

>>279708809
Maybe I'm still giving Maruto the benefit of the doubt, but there has to be a method to this. A reason he's kept Hikari like this for so long and piled on the Yami-ness. Part of me thinks he's actually trying to see just how far he can stretch them in opposite directions while keeping them both as viable love interests and protagonists, which is funny but asinine. Otherwise I assume Hikari will eventually have her colossal fall from grace by irrevocably hurting Yami (and probably Yuu).

>>279707720
>I mean, he was nothing special, use to be some lame loser.
>The reason you fell for him is because he slept with me first and broke out of his shell
>If he'd stayed some clueless guy that knows nothing about women, someone like you would have never given that loser the time of day
She's right

>>279709608
If only she would actually go scorched earth on those two and expose them, would actually redeem her character.
Maybe getting arrested and kicked out of the school for going to a love hotel as minors, or something like that.
Villain arc would salvage this turd.

>>279709599
>I don’t get people being mad at Hikari for supposedly talking shit to her
>people
Shiptards aren't people.

>>279709655
Do japs really think like this? Having sex doesn't make you a more interesting person. It's just sex

>>279709608
I've been kinda assuming the spoiler, and that he reached one redline with the sugar-daddy prank and had to inject some damage-control.

>>279709599
>I don’t get people being mad at Hikari for supposedly talking shit to her
She is talking shit to her?

>>279709717
Americans think like this.

>>279709407
pitybait who needs the dick more>>>CF

>>279709608
This manga is just another KanoKari to me. I never liked the garbage Maruto wrote, I'm still here because everything he wrote is followed by a shitstorm in the comments and I like that.

>>279709740
People who don't pay bills think like this.

>>279709717
It makes sense when attractive behaviors arise that weren't there before the dude got laid, but that's not shown whatsoever, same as there's no actual visual confirmation that Hikari and Yuu are good friends. Keep in mind that Hikari doesn't know he's had sex until now, so the implication is that he's noticeably changed in other ways and she's picking up on that. Problem is, he's done nothing but act like a total faggot the entire story, so it's not believable.

>>279709717
It's more that she wasn't interested in him as a man until he wasn't a virgin anymore

>>279709407
I liked Yami at first because she didn't string Yuu along and initiated things instead of flaking like Hikari. Then she ghosted and went full retard so now I don't like either desu

>>279709808
He probably looked really good when brooding over his broken heart and girls love their broken boys too. Hikari likes him because Yami fucked him in another way, not sex.

>>279709832
>string Yuu along
Not liking someone romantically but valuing them enough as a friend to keep them around is stringing them along? Even worse, Yuu didn't communicate whatsoever that he liked her, so she didn't know any better. Imagine having to reach this far up your own ass to drag Hikari down to Yami's level.

>>279709717
It's not about the act of sex itself but rather the physical connection with another person that comes with it. I have the same issue with Shinkai works where even though the relationship is said to be romantic, the framing makes it look more platonic in nature due to the lack of intimacy/sensual imagery

>>279709856
>brooding over his broken heart
Except he'd been brooding for far longer than that because he pre-emptively cucked himself out of confessing to Hikari, so that's not very believable. It's clear we're being TOLD to believe that Yuu is some latent chadworth, but the author keeps writing him as a bland self-insert because doing otherwise means pissing off the self-inserters and that's basically an unforgivable sin in moonland.

>>279709967
>Except he'd been brooding for far longer than that because he pre-emptively cucked himself out of confessing to Hikari, so that's not very believable.
Hikari did it to herself.

>>279709875
>Not liking someone romantically but valuing them enough as a friend to keep them around is stringing them along?
I wasn't talking about Hikari with that part of the sentence. I'll break it down a little better.
I liked Yami because she didn't string him along and instead initiated affection. The whole part of her realizing she was going to lose him and then chased after him.
This is better than Hikari, who wanted to change their relationship but never had the guts to go through with he confession, and instead would get mad and passive aggressive at Yuu for not reading her mind.
But then Yami self destructed so now there's no real good options to cheer for.

>>279709967
I think there's a difference in quality from sadness coming from things that could've been compared to things that were lost.

>>279709717
Come on man I'm also a loser nerd but this is a story about teenagers

>>279710066
I'm sure they are already around 18 years old

>>279710012
>she didn't string him along
You don't know what this means, that's the problem. Hikari never once strung him along, she just lacked the courage to confess. Stringing someone along means intentionally leading someone to believe one thing despite knowing you're not going to follow up on that. Think tugging someone along with an invisible string, it's done with purposeful disrespect.

>>279710094
Kill yourself

It’s all falling down. I don’t see how Yami and Hikari can be friends when both of them are doubling down on their toxicity. Hikari with her toxic positivity and Yami’s toxic negativity.

>>279707888
At this point it's weird Aya didn't fall for Hikari, girls has more balls than all the people in the story combined

>>279707328
And if you read >>279707700 from left to right she sounds like Yoda.

>>279702236
Underrated post

>>279701970

>>279701641 (OP)
>wake up
>see this manga in the catalogue
>morning instantly soured

>>279710835
This. Not every story is worth telling.

>>279710461
>Hikari with her toxic positivity
Nice try, Yamifag, but you don't know what that means.

>>279701939
Oh boy, Yuu's dick is going to get flattened real soon

>>279707845
> join the dark side
> here we're sluts
One has to wonder why Yami isn't pregnant yet. Or is she? Would explain the mood swings.

>>279701641 (OP)
I miss Douki-chan. Fuck you Maruto give me back my YOMU

>>279710941
>Hikari's sexual fanatasies are limited to smut manga
>Yuu once went through a non-stop sex marathon for 3 days
[x] Doubt

>>279710964
I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who prefers Douki over this.

Okay we progressed from woman moments the manga to full on telenovelaslop. I will now be dropping this manga.

>>279711026
See you in 2 months

>>279711008
I don't think about you at all.

I don't care what happens, I just want Yami to lose and turn into a drug filled messy whore after a timeskip

>>279707845
>>279707888
they should fuck each other

>>279711044
I doubt you ever think at all.

>>279710634
She did fall for her though.

If we're scrying possible endgames, I think the most likely outcome is Yuu running back to Yami and Yami accepting him. The thing I'm not so sure about is whether or not Hikari is going to back off from here on out. Most satisfying thing would be to give Hikari an arc where she moves on and finds a better guy while Yuu and Yami deal with the mess they created, but I highly doubt the author is going to go that route. I get the feeling he's going to make Hikari continue to pine over Yuu so he can drag her character down to the level of the other two. I've always got "I'm bitter about a CF rejecting me in real life so I'm going to use my works to shit on CFs and make myself feel better" vibes from the guy.

>>279711195
>I've always got "I'm bitter about a CF rejecting me in real life so I'm going to use my works to shit on CFs and make myself feel better" vibes from the guy.
Name 3 childhood friends he shat on.

>>279701970
Yami is coping and seething so hard damn. She's reaching levels of loser girl worse than Nino

>>279711290
You know she's right in saying this

>>279711271
Eriri, Sawamura, Spencer

>>279711306
She's talking out of her ass lmao

>>279708301
You can actually get forgiveness only by being honest about you deeds

>>279711348
No, she's exactly right, and Hikari fell for Yuu only after Yami made him into a man.

>>279711414
Is this your cope for never getting a woman?

>>279711454
Is this really the argument you want to use?

>>279711530
That's what it sounds like, yeah.

>>279711556
Sorry, but that doesn't apply to me. Any other arguments?

>>279711573
I'm gonna believe some girl gave you a pity fuck and then you started getting mad pussy after that made you manlier. No problem, friend.

>>279711612
If that helps you sleep at night bro.
Now back to the manga, any arguments that could disprove Yami's words?

>>279701970
ZAMN she right though
Hikari only likes her MATURE childhood friend not the goofy one
Without Yami she would have just let him go!

>>279702839
>>“If he hadn’t had sex with me first, he’d still be that awkward loser who never would’ve looked at you.”
I'm pretty sure this is "If he hadn't had sex with me first, he'd still be that awkward loser who you never would have looked at."
And she is DAMN RIGHT, women want the chad who fucked someone already, Hikari is an EVEN BIGGER WHORE

>>279703899
Not even in the face of Armageddon?

>>279707720
This is a truth nuke

>>279701970
>>If he had never known a woman, he would've stayed the same lame guy who wouldn’t have even looked at someone like Hikari.

This is wrong it's

>He would have stayed the same lame guy who wouldn't have been looked at BY Hikari

>>279702908
People have better working conditions now, and due to how bad the Japanese economy is they can't hire as many assistants as needed.

>>279711632
This is just her tooting her own horn.
>"Look at me. I'm such a good fuck I fixed the guy."
>Body count for both: 1

Yuu and Yami deserve the worse
Yuu should stay single for the rest of his days and catch an ojisan taking Yami to a love hotel
Hikari should find a nice guy to be with, maybe an innocent shota she can pamper
Either way, fuck Yami and Yuu

>>279711800
What's that supposed to disprove?
Hikari didn't give a fuck about Yuu before he met Yami, but then she is suddenly all over him. Can't make this shit up.

>>279701970
>Just casually confirms she tasted him before Hikari ever got a chance

>>279711777
Yeah, I think most people get that, he said it wrong.

>>279702236
>Angry women are so good at being brutally honest.
Nah, they're just good at being brutal. The honest part doesn't matter

>>279704602
>I was hoping for one of the girls to get randomly raped off screen
No.

Fuck School Days.

Hikari's writing is starting to come across as highly expositional. Murata needs to keep it down a notch if he wants people to take her seriously as a naïve teenage girl. She dismantled Yami like a seasoned expert even after the previous chapters shitshow. She is too sainty if that's a word. Now she looks too out of place.

>>279705776
They basically never lied to her. By the time Aya even knew that Yuu was Ta-kun they'd long since broken up.

>>279708334
Did she know Hikari was watching them kiss?

>>279707637
>It wasn't serious at all
>But Aya's been in the room ever since she kissed him, unable to leave
>But it wasn't serious at all

Yami was write about one thing. Yuu would forever stuck in the irrelevant CF zone if she didn't fuck the pathetic virgin out of him. Hikari can't refute that.

>>279707672
Don't post images in the middle of a dump, retard.

>>279701970
I swear I've heard these lines from some Mexican telenovela.

>>279712023
>calling out to avatarfag attention whore

>>279708135
>Mfw "I'm still singing"

>>279708548
>Honesty isn't a good thing. Burying your unfulfillable feelings of love and moving on is a sign of maturity.
Real, otherwise you get insane scenes like that movie where the guy showed up on the doorstep of his friend's house and secretly confessed his love to his friend's wife.

>>279712012
Yami fucked him when he was goofy
Hikari wants him when he is chadly

>>279701970
lol virgins are mad. This is the inescapable truth

>>279709253
>>279709283
Throughout all the flashback chapters Yuu showed himself to be a great boyfriend and a really solid guy, with a good emotional IQ.

He's not perfect, but the hate against him is so forced.

>>279701970
how do you recover from this?

>>279708306
>>279711988
From the novel chapter:
https://note.com/saranami/n/n2e63eede5f8c

>「とりあえず、ちゃんと拭きなよ。風邪ひくから」
>「…………」
>あたしの貸したタオルを頭から被ったままの、陽花梨の表情は見えない。
>でも、考えていそうなことは、手に取るようにわかる。
>全部、あたしのしでかしたことの、結果だって。
>夕だけでなく、陽花梨まで傷つけたんだって。
>夕が、泣きながらこの教室を去ったとき……
>あたしは急に冷静さを取り戻し、そして、思いっきり後悔した。
>やっちゃいけないことをやったって。
>しかも、陽花梨に見られたって。
>あたし、本当になんなんだろう？
>どうして陽花梨がそこにいるって気づいたのに、シてしまったんだろう？
>ううん……
>陽花梨がそこにいたからこそ、シたのかな？
>だとしたら、本当に、なんなんだろうな……
>「落ち着いたらタクシー呼ぶから。それまではゆっくりしてていいよ？」

Google TL with names corrected:
>"For now, make sure you dry yourself properly. You'll catch a cold."
>"......"
>I can't see Hikari's expression, with the towel I lent her still over her head.
>But I can tell right away what she's thinking.
>It's all the result of what I did.
>I've not only hurt Yuu, I've hurt Hikari too.
>When Yuu left the classroom crying...
>I suddenly regained my composure, and was filled with deep regret.
>I'd done something I shouldn't have done.
>And Hikari saw me.
>What am I, really?
>Why did I do it when I realized Hikari was there?
>No...
>Maybe I did it because Hikari was there?
>If that's the case, I wonder what it really is...
>"I'll call a taxi when you've calmed down. You can take it easy until then, okay?"

>>279710012
Good post, no idea why the other guy if trying to nitpick you.

>>279711967
Pretty sure they were referring to the main guy getting shanked for being a retard, and I'm pretty sure you knew that, you disingenuous fuck.

>>279711974
She's not being "saintly", she's mad as fuck and zeroing in on Yami's blatant lies. You're just looking for a reason to bring her down to your chosen girl's level because you're out of options to properly defend your chosen girl's behavior.

>>279711195
>Hikari with another guy
No chance at all. I think everyone who knows Maruto will think that he will make Hikari sweeter and more desirable, more character development in the upcoming chapter 4, basically Setsuna treatment. You know his cooking style.
>>279712030
You must be the same 'Mexican Telenovela' anon in the past Boy's abyss threads, it seems like you actually enjoy all of this drama and use that word as a compliment.

>>279712197
>You're just looking for a reason to bring her down to your chosen girl's
Not everyone is a mentally ill shipper like your retarded self.

>>279712130
>Yuu showed himself to be a great boyfriend and a really solid guy
Now you're just making shit up. He's not an actively shitty person toward her, that's all I'll give him, everything else was just him being a yes man so he could get some pussy.

>>279712197
>she's mad as fuck and zeroing in on Yami's blatant lies
By saying she is a better person than she pretends to be and saying she actually still loves Yuu. Yeah, that's what that anon described as saintly.

>>279712217
I don't want Hikari to win. I just know a disingenuous shiptard when I see one.

>>279712231
She does believe that on some level, but her bringing that up there was clearly an attempt to goad her into telling the truth. She's not that retarded, she knows she's been betrayed, she just wants Yami to admit it.

>>279707796
>>279707765
Literally the only one to blame is you, nobody did it to you
crazy bitch

>>279708122
If I was Hikari, I'd cut ties with both for my own sanity

>>279712268
>She's not that retarded, she knows she's been betrayed
Reread 33.

>>279712215
That one lone anon started comparing forced drama story lines in manga to "telenovelas" just around the time you started lurking. What a coincidence!

>>279712197
NTA, but it seems like she's mad for at Yami for Yami's sake, like for over a half of the conversation, seems saintly enough.

>>279712248
Stop projecting retard

>>279712215
>same anon
No idea what you're on about. I only dropped into this thread after seeing the post counter blow up; I don't even visit these threads normally.
Protip: the less you try to individuate single anons for perceived agendas, the easier your time in 4chan will be.

>>279712372
>I don't even visit these threads normally.
Please make it stay that way for the future as well

>>279712302
Oh fuck off, she had no knowledge that Yami was going to sign her up for compensated dating, that was the first time she'd been hit with that level of crazy. Right now, in the current argument, she knows for certain that Yami has betrayed her yet again. She's pissed and trying to get her to admit it by saying what she knows full well will piss her off and get a reaction (also foreshadowed by the chapter you told me to go re-read, would you look at that shit).

>>279712386
Maybe I should've said reread 34 then.

>>279705776
Aya found out recently. Even ignoring that, your friends do not owe you an explanation of their love lives.

>>279712340
>>279712386
I'm not sure what level of cognitive dissonance is required to think she's not just as pissed at Yami as she was at Yuu for being a liar, but here you two are. She outright told Yuu she hates liars.

>>279712446
Misclick, second quote meant for >>279712404

why is /a/ so tsundere when it comes to soap opera romance?

>>279701641 (OP)
So did Yami know Hikari was watching the kiss or nah?

>>279712677
Maruto has always been a good dramatist and I love his cooking. No need to heed some rando anti-romcom (or manga itself) contrarians, they will never be an editor or mangaka themselves.

>>279712757
She knew she was watching and was questioning her actions in her internal monologue for this chapter. Regardless of whether she did it because Hikari was watching or not, this is apparently her attempt to brush off the issue by saying her relationship with Yuu is as a fuckbuddy so that she can remain friends with Hikari. The context kind of makes sense in Japan as to why Yami could assume this is a better outcome than emotional cheating, but I'm pretty sure this is only the case for adults. I doubt the intent to make it seem like highschoolers are just going around looking for fuckbuddies while pining for a significant other.

>>279712858
>he's only had my body
>but you can have his heart
Hikari not going psycho at that is honestly a great amount of self-control on her part

>>279709170
Souka...

>>279712869
It's hard to tell which way women generally land on this. Just saw this in another thread, for instance: >>279712370

>>279712926
Men also cheat for similar reasons, they just don't spout crap like that.

Yami should die alone

>>279702833
>finally semblance of progress and now this

>>279712926
Heh, male authors can write even worse crap sometimes. Woman moment but from a man in Terry Goodkind's Temple of the Winds:
>main couple: Richard and Kahlan
>plot of Temple (4th book): bad guys unleash a magical plague that kills a fuckton of people
>to stop it, Richard must enter the eponymous Temple of the Winds and use the magic hidden there to end the plague
>to enter the temple, there's some convoluted mumbo jumbo with magic and evil spirits that requires that Richard and Kahlan break up and marry other people, and all of them must orgasm on their wedding night for the Temple to appear
>also it's pitch black and they can't speak during the fuck
>so Kahlan fucks the other guy but can't orgasm, then imagines she's with Richard and finally orgasms
>lightning strike illuminates the room - surprise! She was actually fucking Richard! A friend of theirs exploited a loophole in the ritual and led them to different rooms so they didn't have to fuck other people
>however, Richard thinks she orgasmed from fucking the other dude and storms off, betrayed and offended, and fucks off to the Temple
>(he himself had immediately realized it was Kahlan)
>later he has an epiphany and realizes that when your life sucks, there's nothing wrong with taking whatever small pleasures that are available to you; therefore he was in the wrong and apologizes to Kahlan
>never even remembers the whole "it's to stop the plague" thing
>(their spouses then die and they reunite and have a proper wedding, happy end)

>>279713210

>>279712926
>>279713210
Jesus fucking christ, I have no words for how pissed I would be if I were balls deep in reading these series. Sometimes there's writing on the wall, little things like barely disguised fetishes cropping up with no particular relevance, but sometimes it truly comes out of fucking nowhere, like Devil is a Part Timer. I remember being mad reading about it because I was deciding whether to watch it or not, I can't imagine the shit fest that caused among actual readers.

>>279713309
Hataraku Maou didn't even bother me much, dude just picked a nymphet with massive honkers. But man, just remembering the garbage in Haganai makes me seethe.

>>279713335
>Haganai
Had to look it up, that is indeed bad, but also seemed to be broadcasted based on the MC's retardation throughout the story? It's still painful in the sense that it's an unsatisfying "nobody grew up at all and the status quo is maintained". As far as Maou goes, there just... wasn't any indication before the offending volumes in question that the author was going to throw the clear OTP right out the goddamn window.

>>279712677
Soap operas are for girls and they don't want to read soap operas that are actually for girls, but they love drama. so they latch onto whatever drama they can get as long as it doesn't feel like it has cooties

>>279713210
>to enter the temple, there's some convoluted mumbo jumbo with magic and evil spirits that requires that Richard and Kahlan break up and marry other people, and all of them must orgasm on their wedding night for the Temple to appear
Kek, this is some piss-forest magical-realm shit. It's like I'm really reading an H-manga synopsis.

>>279713448
would've been better if he didn't spent two whole volumes dating the reverse-trap while making some crappy comments to yozora and sena. the whole thing just reads as mean spirited

>>279708805
I kind of feel like this is a jab at itself. From all outside perspective it doesn't even feel like they had a deep connection. Fuck Hikari and Aya felt deeper than latching onto a guy in the middle of a messy family home life

>>279713597
>From all outside perspective it doesn't even feel like they had a deep connection
If you ignore novel chapters then maybe.

>>279702833
So the real story is Yom no longer can follow the schedule so they decided to give him some time to recover, isn't it?

>>279701939
I won't compromise for less than an open catfight at this point. Hikari might be good enough to defend Yuu, but not enough to tolerate Yami shoving in her face that she took all of Yuu's firsts.

>>279701970
Note that this is also the first time Hikari found out Yuu and Yami fucked, as far as she knew they'd only kissed.

>>279714705
After learning Yami and Yuu had a story of their own and hearing Yami's tales about her sex life, she probably realised already.

>>279708105
I seriously wonder how one can read what Yuu's actually said and done and come to this conclusion.

>>279708781
I mean, in this particular case, Reddit loves nothing more than their unchallenging fluff romcoms. Yami is public enemy number one there and Yuu's just a trophy.

>>279707765
Beautiful

>>279715174
>what Yuu's actually said and done
You mean the part where he went full steam ahead with the confession like a horny loser and didn't notice or care about the very clear signs that Hikari was fucked the hell up about something? He doesn't really care about her as a friend, he just wants to dick her.

>>279707745
Why did Hikari choose this moment to confront Aya? Usually she is pretty passive.

>>279715248
>You mean the part where he went full steam ahead with the confession
You mean like he was always going to do? Meeting Yami just broke him emotionally.

>>279715268
Because she's actually mad as fuck for once. This doesn't seem to be the usual "I'm mad for your sake" thing she usually does, she's pretty hurt.

>>279715283
And how does that challenge what I said? He's still a retard who only thinks with his dick.

>>279701970
I love when the foil is right and leaves the heroine speechless.

Started reading this today and I already hate it

>>279717914
It literally takes 2 hours to finish, what do you mean "started reading today"

>>279707745
>Hikari was angry at Yuu last time for "lying"
>Now she's defending him
It's okay for not accepting Yuu's feelings last chapter but getting angry at him seems stupid for Hikari
Like how is he supposed to tell her in that moment?
>I always liked you... well except in that short period where I got together with someone who I just figured out today is your bff lol

>>279707934
Yeah, it's the only way for Hikari to overcome her insecurity. Either rape him or give up.

>>279718215
It didn't really work for Yami though.
She was afraid that he'll leave her for his childhood friend despite regularly fucking him.

>>279718749
Have we entered the shitposting phase of the thread already?

>>279718749
That's why I think her advice for Hikari is to never stop the rape.

>>279718901
No?
Hell, she was kind of right too. Dude just let her go as soon as she suddenly broke up with him and decided to go for Hikari again.
Now, I'm not saying that he doesn't care about Yami or would cheat on her if there was an opportunity while they were still dating, but she never meant to him as much as Hikari.

>>279720902
There is literally one (1) chapter of their relationship where she is worried about his childhood friend. She never brings her up again after, doesn't even think about her.

>>279709381
are you retarded?

I just want a cute CF romance...

Honest question but why do people keep saying Yami seems to remind some guys of their exes with BPD?

>>279721910
Because they dated girls like Yami

>>279709009
>men would rather date a mentally ill bpd bitch from a broken home and who always talks how how easy you are to throw away
>don't want easy life childhood friend

>>279722067
Not my fault the easy life childhood friend is a doormat, it's hers.

>>279711063
>they should fuck each other
This.

>>279713461
the soaps for actual girls are way more annoying than stuff like this. you can always find the good ones buried within the trash, but 90% of the material is the female equivalent of isekai slop.

>>279709170
based

>>279708698
Haruki clears Yuu in the sense that he's more of an actual character unlike Yuu. As a person Haruki is genuinely awful.

>>279724963
What's wrong with Haruki as a person? He is a great guy, if only a little too nagging.

>>279725013
>He is a great guy
His indecisiveness makes me hate him as a person. I can't feel sorry for him considering he brought it all on himself.

>>279725049
Any examples of his indecisiveness that makes you hate him? There were of course some moments when he was struggling with a choice, but I doubt any sane person with enough empathy could easily make a decision in most of them.

>>279710461
>toxic positivity
this is not a real thing

>>279718154
>Like how is he supposed to tell her in that moment?
Maybe suggest dating without blatantly lying about how he's always been in love with her, especially after tongue-kissing ex a few hours ago.

>>279726741
definitely is a thing, but I don't think it applies in this case

>>279710461
>not buying Yami's bullshit and being reasonable
>toxic positivity
No, it's not.

>>279712169
Thanks, I wrote up three paragraphs trying to further explain that Hikari wasn't part of the "strung along" part of the sentence but realized it wasn't worth arguing lol

>>279708815
Elevens think fucking whores isnt cheating because youre not emotionally involved. Yami acting like a slut means there was no emotional betrayal so Hikari could just shrug it off. Admitting they both liked each other would be admitting that Yuu definitely “cheated”.

>>279721806
Be patient it will deliver.

>>279710012
almost like it's men the ones supposed to initiate shit?

YamiGods...it's fucking over isn't it? She's going to move onto trainkun next

>>279707994
seeing this makes some of the early copes about Maruto changing the direction of the story or Yom being tricked into doing the art not knowing how things would turn out even more funny

>>279721806
Go read some generic romcom slop then

>>279730062
It ain't the 1950s girls are allowed to express interest now

Okay, but can we admit that the last chapter was ambiguous about if Yami knew Hikari was watching them?

>>279707720
She could have just said
>We had a thing in the past, but today I put an end to it, for our friendship sake and for Yuu. I didnt mean to betray you but Im sorry if I hurt you, thar kiss isnt what you think.
Istead of
>AIEEE YES I FUCKED YUU I SUCKED THAT DELICIOUS COCK AND MADE HIM A TRUE MAN, A MAN THAT KNOWS HOW TO SMASH A PUSSY. IF YOU WANT HIM TO BE WITH YOU I RECOMEND DOING SOME ANAL AND FUCK LIKE A SLUT TO KEEP HIM BY YOUR SIDE LMAO

>>279733601
but she wouldn't be Yami if she could do that

>>279725197
NTA, but Haruki's biggest blunder was probably ditching Kazusa's goodbye concert and visiting Setsuna instead on her business trip out of the blue, to convince himself he was still being loyal to her. That seemed incredibly dense of him, but it produced 2.5 routes' worth of drama, so I can dig it.

>>279728351
I dunno, that sounds like the sort of scummy excuse a cheating husband would use after being busted, not something the wife would actually be okay with. Generally speaking.

>image posting is busted
MOOOOOOT

>>279703247
She only wants one guy so quit it with the nonsense

>>279713210
the part where richard makes the mord-sith fall in love with him in the first book was already stupid enough

>>279701970
I love drama in my romance manga so much bros. Is it really that hard for other Japanese writers to understand this?

>>279732937
Because we're mostly dekinai. This time the novel cleared it up in >>279712139, though that didn't make it into the manga.

>>279733601
There's supposed to be some kind of Yami logic where confessing A is more lethal to their friendship than B even though B looks full retard, but hell if I can figure it out.

>>279712926
it's not hard at all, women are possessive and jealous by nature. even taking the whole "i know you're not like this" part out of it hikari is making a reasonable (and correct) assumption that yami fucked yuu because she liked him and she kissed him because she still does. yami just looks like a cornered child because she's bad a lying

>>279735119
My reading of >>279712869 was that Anon thought Hikari should be pissed about the sex even if there wasn't love behind it. That's common sense for guys, but woman fiction suggests it might not be as totally repulsive to them, and I don't know how true that is. Yami's betting big on it though!

>>279701970
> I turned your chilhood crush into a man be thankful

>>279735676
>Yami's betting big on it though
Yami is trying desperately to show Hikari that she doesn't care about Yuu despite the fact that Yami freaked the fuck out the second Yuu was leaving her behind.

>>279701970
Hikari won if Yami is saying shit like this.

>>279726758
He wasn't lying. He's always been in love with her.

>>279708805
No you retard. She fucked him because she doesn't know how to get a guy to not leave otherwise.
It's typical slut low self-esteem behavior and not a good thing.

>>279735075
But he was nice to her, it's just like in my animes

>>279736043
That's a lot of cope in one post.

>>279735723
It's a puzzling move when she knows Hikari saw, and the conversation started with Hikari bringing up seeing it. Pretending she didn't care after that display had zero chance of success.

>>279737492
Her bet almost the entire conversation was the hope that Hikari would get a clue and play along.

>>279737747
Yeah, it took me a while just to figure out that level of the conversation. But even then, it relies on Hikari NOT insisting on some very fair and burning questions she must have. If Hikari was going to let things slide unspoken, she would've already accepted Yuu's confession, and Yami knew from Haru's text that it bombed.

Plus she keeps getting more offensively lurid and painting a bigger target on herself the more Hikari pushes, which I can't make sense of when she's desperately trying NOT to have Hikari unfriend her. What's the theory behind that tactic?

>>279735996
>He's always been in love with her.
So as Hikari, all three of them are in love with each other. Someone will get broken.

>>279733601
Yami and self-destructive masochism go together like vanilla and chocolate.

>>279718154
You can be mad about a guy implicitly lying to you about kissing his ex GF a few minutes before you take him to the fuck closet, but not hate him in general.

>>279738661
>What's the theory behind that tactic?
She would rather have Yuu than Hikari on a subconscious level. Think about it, it would make her feel great knowing that a man picked her over Hikari

>>279735996
I think someone pointed out the irony that Hikari rejects Yami's cover story partly because she believes TA-KUN WOULD NEVER have engaged in casual sex without love, when it was actually a pretty close call. (And same for Yami's side, if Yuu had been someone less sentimental.)

Also the irony that Yami wanted Yuu to see through her slut act and not Hikari, but instead Hikari is pushing through where Yuu just let it go.

>>279739964
Or maybe she just loves Yuu romantically and doesn't love Hikari romantically, and the feeling of love is stronger than friendship idk

>>279739978
>Yami wanted Yuu to see through her slut act and not Hikari
Maybe if Yami didn't ghost Yuu, Yuu would have called Yami out on her act. Expecting him to see through her act when he's literally minutes away on confessing to another girl is too much

>>279738661
>she keeps getting more offensively lurid and painting a bigger target on herself the more Hikari pushes, which I can't make sense of
Those are reflexive. Hikari's pushes sting too much for her, so she can't help but lash out.

>>279708345
She's going from being mostly passive and even submissive, to standing up for herself and asserting her own desires, instead of just helping others with their own.

>>279740006
They were together quite a while, and their relationship started with him seeing through her. Unfortunately she leveled up her acting after the first time.

>>279740067
>instead of just helping others with their own.
When was this?

>>279721806
Read this then, every couple is a pair of childhood friends except the main couple

>>279740288
>They were together quite a while, and their relationship started with him seeing through her.
I read it as him actually recognising she is acting, but is still rejecting him for her own reasons so he doesn't pry further.

>>279740061
>nah, I don't buy it, you're too nice for that
>HOW DARE YOU INSINUATE THAT I'M A GOOD PERSON, YOU'RE HUSBANDO A SHIT
Why is she like this?

>>279740288
>They were together quite a while
They were together for a few months, and in those few months they only got to see each other a few times, and in those few times, Yami kept lying and putting up a facade despite Yuu all but telling her he knows she's lying and wants her to be honest.

>>279740465
>durr we got 4 chapters of them together which means they only saw each other 4 times
Retards like you who make up random shit and pretend it's canon are a reason why most /a/ discussions get so retarded.

>>279740497
>Yuu says that they don't have many opportunities to spend time together due to school and scheduling issues
>Yuu wants to do more traditional couple and get to know each other more
>Yami refuses and prefers to have sex non-stop
And yet Yuu is in the wrong somehow.

>>279740515
>proceeds to make up random shit
Why did I even bother.

>>279739983
>Yami doesnt want Hikari to abandon her
Yami has legit feelings for Hikari. She doesn't want to be alone she has romantic feelings with Hikari.

>>279740543
read nigga

>>279740465
I don't quite get why you're arguing with me if your position is that he actually could tell she was acting during their time together.

>>279740458
Lack of decent parental figures.

>>279707994
I'm not sure I buy Maruto having nothing planned further ahead, if only because we still don't know what the deal was with Yuu being awkward that day in chapter 18.

>>279740458
She runs on drama rather than reason. She won't stop sabotaging her relationships until the plot decides it's time to stop.

>>279740813
>Yom can't meet the deadline for 2 chapters in a row
>Chapters became longer on average, chapter 40 having 20 pages
>during the hiatus Maruto is releasing a fucking spin-off instead of focusing on volume 4 that he """hasn't planned out yet"""
It's pretty transparent really.

Incidentally, 17 was rereleased on Webcomic Apanda the other day, and the next release date is next week. If they keep going at one chapter a week with no additional bonus chapters, they'll catch up to 41 in about 24 weeks (6 months). Maybe plus 2 weeks for the sleepover and Yami rain bonus chapters. So I guess there's no chance of it catching up to Twitter/Note unless they speed up the rereleases, or if the hiatus goes for 6 months, God forbid.

>>279740288
>>instead of just helping others with their own.
>When was this?
Her entire relationship with Yami.

>>279742483
Yami wanted to be left alone. It was Hikari who wanted to reintegrate her (give-or-take being voluntold by the teacher).

>>279743599
Yami wanted someone to save her.

>>279701970
>>279702032
If you're a man and you enjoy reading this shit then you might as well stop being one.
This shit is for women.
Literally written like some J-drama romance for hags.

At least Boy's Abyss had mystery and psychological drama.

>>279743599
Now Yami doesn't want to be alone anymore but she keeps fucking shit up

>>279744087
She still had Yuu-itis and thought she'd be forever alone. Hikari had to assert her own desire to approach Yami over Yami's desire for her to piss off.

>>279744387
>At least Boy's Abyss had mystery and psychological drama.

>>279711195
My previous scrying was that Yuu would want to make up with Hikari more, AND she's much easier for him to find, so she would be his first stop. I didn't think Hikari would be able to hunt down Yami so immediately though, or that she'd already have the essentials figured out, or that Yami would be so fucking difficult. I'm learning to never bet against Yami's ability to make a simple thing complicated.

>>279711195
>>279748593
Also, I think it's too early for Hikari to back off unless it's to set up a wrong-girl arc with Yami.

>>279750310
Hikari can still comprise

>>279750310
To me, the tricky part is how to keep both girls involved with the plot after things are out in the open. Yuu and Yami can basically only meet by coincidence, so Hikari has a massive contact advantage for the time being.

>>279744387
I pity the man who can't savor a juicy catfight.

>>279756965
Same

>>279740296
Technically the main couple is childhood friends too. We just see them throughout the whole childhood so it doesn't look that way

>>279714283
Or build up a buffer again, or whatever.

I just hope Hikari kicks Yami to the curb, so she can detoxify Yuu from Yami’s influence.

The /u/ flags are on FULL MAST

>>279721175
And in that one chapter, it shows that Yami often wonders about the CF, to the point that Yuu has to talk about something else to distract Yami.