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>>279743425Just an advice: don't get your hopes too high. Kazuya's impulsiveness will come and bite into his ass.
>Though out Heaven and Earth
>I alone am the renting one
>>279748840 (OP)This story is officially in a limbo
>MC is forever a loser>Love interests are all rental/used goods>380 chapters inHow can you write a good ending for this premise without asspulling?
>>279748840 (OP)Not blushing, retarded thoughts challenge? Impossible
>>279749007You can't. I've never seen a manga author write himself into this many corners. It's gonna be pretty amusing seeing all of them get magically hand waved away in a few chapters.
>>279749113there's a high likelihood Reiji himself drew those doujins
>>279748840 (OP)>no lewding Mizuhara with other men>no crying bonerHold on is this really the same person?
>>279749007Easy.
>Chorizo's acting career reaches a dead end>She spends the next ten years at least whoring herself out until she hits the wall and the agency fires her>Kazuya continues simping for her while wanking to his NTR fantasies>Any side character with half a brain moves on with their lives, have normal jobs and relationships>Ruka an heros her way out of this terrible manga with no regrets>Chorizo returns to Kazuya when they're middle-aged and fat to marry him after riding the cock carousel>He accepts like the good cuck he is
>>279748840 (OP)Jokes aside, the one thing I find interesting about this nothingburger of a chapter is that he's remembering the date with Mini, and her warning about Chizuru being "sneaky" aka, hoe
>>279748840 (OP)Had Kazuya called Chorizo by her real name, not a prostitute one, would she reacted differently?
Translations differ apparently.
>>279749282Could you stop talking like you are from the third world.
>>279749285Honestly, in this round, i go with Abyss When!? version, even if both embellishes a lot some lines.
Maybe we'll have to need a TL-kun version for kanokari.
>>279749352You need to be more convincing for that saaaar.
>>279749401Is that the one in the pic? Fucking nerd.
>>279749188this
>>279749250 is why he's not thinking of any cuckshit right now anon.
Kazuya only has Mini's warning and overall disappointment about being rejected on his mind right now.
at least until he cools off
>>279749440I'm trying to hate the whores and you are distracting from that by being a subhuman.
>>279749498How can you even hate them if you're whore's son himself saaaar?
>>279749571go be a subhuman somewhere else
>>279749613Don't be so rude saaar or I will have to molest your sister saaar.
unironically, what did he mean by this?
>>279749676shit, forgot pic
>>279749676Niwatori? Or Kazuya?
>>279749648I have clean drinking water and you don't
>>279749722Kazuya moved by Chizuru's kindness despite of the rejection.
Other people would be cold and dismissive tbf.
>>279749722Halo effect combined with a whole load of sunk cost.
>>279749742Your attitude is unacceptable saaar. I'm raping your saaaar sister tomorrow. Tell her not to shower today and tomorrow so the saaaring will be more oriental.
>>279749113If Kazuya wasn't a misguided idiot that would be canon
>>279749785how is telling him to go home alone not cold and dismissive? or is she kind because she didn't ban him from riding the same train as her this time?
>>279749861Irony won't feed your starving children.
>>279749113Imagine having a Ruka
>>279749722>she financially ruined me and string me along for 2 years but it was because of the kindness in her heart KEKAROOOOOO
>>279749937Your sister is starving for a real man's cock and tomorrow she will have a feast.
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>>279749975>Choriputa cryingUnrealistic, she would be putting on her android face.
>>279749248There is a spic novel called Love in the Time of Cholera on which the couple got together when they are on their seventies. She got married and had only one men in her life (her husband). On the contrary, He remained single but had many lovers, two of them died (one was assassinated by her husband and the other kills herself in her boarding school because him chose the hag).
By the way, if Reiji is out of ideas could vanish Mami and Ruka.
In Keknokari, according to modern times Chiz could reach fame and getting many lovers, even blacks. On the contrary Kekzuya remains virgin and get old in the alcohol store. Suddenly, they got together in her last days. Reiji has drawn many times an ancient bald Kekzuya paying money to an old Choriputa. Why not?
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>>279750250you're a genetic dead end.
>>279744261>Chizuru looking absolutely devastated as if she was the one who got rejected>wistful past tense narration>fatefully bumping into each other at a crossroad>"maybe that was a good thing"It's happening. It's time for shit to go down. This is where real progress finally happens. Next week we will have lived to see the day. I'm so glad I trusted the plan and believed in Reiji. These next few chapters will cement this story as one of the best romance manga, mark my words.
>>279749113what happened to ruka? i havent been reading thia shit
>>279750378>nigger is mad
Is this the manga where the artist self inserted to date the heroine?
>>279749954I would make her a mother
>>279750439yes, the ending was leaked a few weeks ago
>>279750422cute projection, loser.
>>279750622>nigger is still mad
>>279750632>broken record
>>279750389Anon...
>>279748840 (OP)Kazuya already fucked everything up by carelessly telling Mini about the results without waiting another sec and even having her opinion about Chizuru winning in his head. Things actually look bleak.
Just hope there's some damage control and a clean break (likely her sparing from being blacklisted, but asking Kazuya to not see each other for a long while until she feels like she can return to him. And in the meantime, Chizuru gives him green light to date others and not wait for her through the ticket) after the inevitable scorched earth scenario, because, if Kazuya gets "saddled" with another 1 or 2 heroines entering into his bowl, it's all because of him not thinking straight. He should go to some impulse management and depression therapy and learn to not be hasty and terminal when things aren't going his way.
>>279750662>>nigger is still mad
>>279750410Gonna have a date with Kazuya at Round1 Ikebukuro the next week (and that same date will be the thematics for the Ruka exhibition due to her birthday).
The ruka account already foreshadowed Abysszuya coming back.
>279750725
You aren't even worth a (you) anymore. Try harder next time, chud.
>>279750753>>>nigger is still mad
>>279750740Poor girl, she definitely deserves better. I wish the author would just cut their relationships short, have him get his shit together learn from this and have an actual relationship with a new girl, thatd be good end. Of course it wont happen since se are talking about the same guy who drew the pool cucking chapter
I don't read the manga, I have watched the 3 sessions and I can say after reading this chapter alone: It is not even worth your time.
(your time, mine no because I don't have anything better to do anyway).
Just move on to a better girl. It's that easy.
>>279750935Better girl options:
- Another rental girlfriend
- Crazy ex
- Another rental girlfriend
- e-thot
>>279750935If Kazuya wants anything close to a normal relationship, it has to be Sumi. Mini could work too if he really wanted her. And as much as I love Mami, going to her would feel like showing up naked and vulnerable. I hope we get to see Mami verbally emasculate him.
> "WAAAAAAAAH"
> "BWAAAAHAAAAH"
> "THE STORY IS SO ASS!"
> "WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO TAKE AWAY FROM ALL THIS!?!?"
It's simple, really. Mini is a keeper.
>>279751376>I hope we get to see Mami verbally emasculate him.She won't emasculate him.
She'll do something worse blame Kazuya for the misfortune of her birth, accuse him for not giving her the same dedication he gave to Chizuru when she needed it, scream about her shit situation and threat Kazuya to ruin him further for that... only for her resolve to falter, her tears to fall down, and herself to admit that even if she would want to do that, she can't, because she loves him, leaving Kazuya with an extreme guilt because he saw despair in Mami's eyes beneath that crash out
>Rental girlfriend
wut? why not just hire a hooker? not only you get to have sex, but if they like you they will invite you to hang out for free themselves
i'm not joking or anything, serious question
>>279750860I'm unironically convinced that Reji hates Ruka. I've never seen a character get so mistreated by his author in any manga or story ever, worst of all it's that she is probably the best girl which makes all even more cruel
>>279749007>This story is officially in a limboThis(rejection) is the first event since Hawaiians, it's on the cusp of escaping limbo, let us see how the author takes it all back next chapter.
>>279752665Short term prediction:
Ch282 ends with Kazuya and Chizuru having an argument bc he calls her sneaky on impulse despite of helping her with the blisters. Chizuru... or shall i say "Ms. Sad Truths Hater" gets mad and challenges him to dare to say it again.
Mid-term prediction
>Either Mini or Mami interrupting some nice moment after their argument. They decide to tell grandma the whole truth, and when Chizuru is about to correct herself abt her feelings, one of those 2 interrupt them, lashes out at Chiz in front of Kaz, Kaz steps in, trying to defend Chiz, risking everything, using her post rejection "kindness" as a very weak excuse. Mami/Mini get horrified at Kaz and assumes the pathetic state he is into now is caused by Chiz still giving him hope, so they choose brutal honesty and, after verbally beating both of them down (in Mami's case, >>279752236 scenario happens), she confesses to Kazuya. He somehow gets shocked at hearing that... but that shit also triggers Chizuru's guilt and makes her feel Kazuya would be better off with one of them. Shit ends with Chizuru using the ticket to write something, but does it while starting to cry.>Kaz's movement begins, wonders where Chiz did go to say a proper farewell, he gets notified by his bank his account received about 1 million yen, with the benefactor being Diamond agency. The deposit subject only says: refund.Runs inside to see if Miz is there, but only finds the ticket he gave to her. He finds out it has some waterdrop marks and once he reads it, his eyes end losing his bright.
Once in his house, he sees his phone and attempts to use Diamond once again, but finds out he can't rent Miz anymore. He finally begins to sob and between tears, he finally calls her a fucking sneaky spineless liar, as she promised him to go together to face his grandma. His sorrow, anger, frustration, and even feeling himself offended are too much for him to the point he ends passing out. Arc ends there.
mizubros, we are back.......
>>279750410I'm going to assume that you dropped this shit in the ghosting
She went to a date with Kazuya (which was like 2 chapters lol) only because Kazuya wanted to have a banking card for his real date with Chizuru (obviously Ruka doesn't know about this) which Ruka helped (she did everything) him to get, some notable moments are when Kazuya admits that he is keeping her as a side chick in his head (he proceds to deny this seconds later but we all know the truth), Kazuya admits that Ruka is beautiful, Ruka has been studying for her college entry exams which has leave her with less time to spend with Kazuya, they kept dating even when Kazuya went to live with Chorizo, Kazuya lies to Ruka and says that he stopped seeing Chizuru and that he lives in his parents house now due to the earthquake, Ruka kisses Kazuya in the cheek, Kazuya sees Ruka's panties again and Ruka wants to buy Kazuya a keychain (a ribbon like one) as a gift which she pays for but Kazuya doesn't want to because he prefers the keychain that Chizuru gave him (which he doesn't tell Ruka of course) so instead he pretends to like the gift but immediately removes it after reaching Chizuru house (and then proceeds to lie to Ruka again through Line when she asks him if she still has it in his phone)
Also, Kazuya behaves like an uninterested faggot like always even though he was the one that decided to date with her for the banking card
Post yfw Chizuru and Kazuya becomes a couple
>>279753521Enjoy your last chapters before a looong and bitter separation, because Kazuya himself set up for a bitter and sweet turnaround of events. And all of that will be his fault for not shutting his mouth in front of Mami in a specific moment (anon from
>>279745731 said which specific moment was) and relying too much on Mini without suspecting of her true intentions.
>>279753705>Me after other 100 chapers when they become a married couple in the very last chapter.Because they won't be together until the final tankoubon at best.
>>279753705Ruka might actually get a heart attack from that
>>279753735fate is bringing them together, nothing we talk about matters in the end. it is just meant to be
>>279753866Yeah, but when will fate make them cross paths again??
Chizuru feels extremely unworthy and in the stance she is right now, she'll choose to fight against fate.
Probably next time they see each other is if kusobabaa ends hospitalized again because after finding out Kazuya and Chizuru lied from Kaz's mouth, she lost her reasons to keep living and fell sick. Seeing her in total despair will make him try to reach Chizuru by any means, despite he's dating another of the bitches AND despite of him not wanting to care anymore about Chizuru. It's simply because he can't stand kusobabaa dying like that and feels responsible for her hospitalization.
>>279754089>Yeah, but when will fate make them cross paths againnext page
>>279754150I was talking the next time after the one of the next page.
Fate being brought opened a fucking can of worms. It may bring them back together in the short, mid or long term.
Remember Kazuya got ghosted 3 months.
Imagine now they have a severance that lasts 3 or more months. Everything can happen, a reminder that, after the kiss in the hawaiians, the ghosting happened (in retrospective, Chizuru telling Kazuya she was not gonna let him push the hero button again was a direct threat of her intentions, but now that they're nothing, Kazuya can push the hero button as much as his broken heart ends up satisfied with), and only got defused because Mini stepped in.
This time will be different tho, Mini's not gonna cooperate with bringing them together anymore, in fact, she and/or Mami have sound and legit reasons to rip the ground between then and sever their bonds, until fate brings them together once again. How? "Absence calls for longing", obviously. Chizuru doing and feeling like shit in her career, starting to either unconscious or deliberately doing like shit in her RaG job and having her rating falling because she starts longing for someone.
Ruka is a non-factor in this. Mami and Mini are more dangerous because Kazuya has or had some emotional connection with them, so they are more effective as temporary keepers until Chizuru starts making advances on him.
>>279748840 (OP)Time for Mini to make her move.
What chapter should I start this dumpster fire at?
>>279754517nigga the point of this last chapter is that they both need to stop overthinking and let their emotion speak for themselves
If i didn't post anything interesting from the 5ch thread, it's because i'm not in the mood today.
However it seems people are saying Kanokari may be ending soon, and seems it's an axed end (uchikiri).
Look there, i mtl'd some posts to understand the shit. But shit seems too bleak now).
https://itest.5ch.net/kizuna/test/read.cgi/wcomic/1750064481
>>279749007>How can you write a good ending for this premise without asspulling?Just kill him.
>>279754989May it be a codename for "he did do something he'll regret later", who knows.
Hiroyuki likes to laugh at Miyajima's "metaphors".
>>279750191>Chiz could reach gameHey, can any anon remind me, memes aside, Chizuru work is supposed to not include intimacy beyond touching hands (maybe not even that), right?
I'm asking because it makes me wonder. If she were to become an actress, wouldn't her past as a Rental girlfriend be considered in a negative light if it ever came to light?
>>279749007>This story is officially in a limboThis is the opposite of a limbo. For fuck's sake, can't you be normal and shit on the shit heroine like normal people do
>>279753705That would be almost at the end of story, I imagine the moment the story reaches that point, Ruka and the other character will move on with their lives.
>>279754612Did you skipped all Sesame street episodes where they teach you how to count?
>>279755215>wouldn't her past as a Rental girlfriend be considered in a negative light if it ever came to light?Honestly speaking, JAV industry would capitalize on that shit and offer her main roles.
I just remembered how the porno dgaf about Nagi, an idol, being "married" to a 27 years older dying old shit and being kicked out from her group, they only got interested after angry idorufags doxxed her past as a J-gravure idol in 2ch. It's the same. Chizuru exposed as a RaG will only make JAV companies be thirsty to capitalize that shit, and let's add to that the obvious fact Chizuru is fucking hot. Producers and managers would kill each other and start Yakuza Wars for such a hot body.
And, if Chizuru's mom did do JAVs for undisclosed reasons and chizudad was too narrowhearted to hear reasons and ragequitted, and her agency finds out who she is ends up being true... the fun begins there.
>>279754892While the sales are going down, isnโt it still selling fairly well? Would be weird to get it axed after 380 chapters
You just know that the next chapter will be just a repetition of this one.
Probably half of it will be just the two of them walking silently while the simp does his goofy retard faces and she just looks sad with the "โฆ" inner monologue.
>>279755914Any other manga with JAV industry plot?
>>279756235Gigant.
Although it's basically kaiju tokusatsu manga as JAV.
>>279754651>and let their emotion speak for themselvesThat's bad tho. If they let their bodies speak, then it means a definite goodbye.
>girl: I don't see you romantically and don't want to marry you
>cuck: uwahh! what did she mean by that! It was just the first date after all!?!?
>>279749975Chizuru is literally Israel.
The sub is havig a godfuckingawful melty right now.
Is the commercial success an indication of the mental health and general loneliness of the male population out there?
Are we really this lonely to want love from a prostitute?
>>279749722This is sad to witness. It's still a hell Kazuya brought upon himself.
>>279757879I thought it was a money laundering operation that puts up a good front.
Kazuya answers a phone call from Mini, Chizuru just listens in sneakily.
>>279757879No, that's dumb. It's a subtle high IQ commentary of that phenomenon.
The real symptoms are ewhores, streamers, ai chatbots, and vtuber sluts.
>>279757879In my case I just feel like I can't process romance unless it's blunt and direct. I'd rather have a fwb than a girlfriend.
>>279757879>Are we really this lonely to want love from a prostitute?If she was a prostitute there would be zero readers.
>>279757879No, it's just that negativity sells more
>>279758678>pure momentum with no actual chanceEven Mini is ahead of Ruka.
>>279758752See the ruka account.
>>279749722the only ending that will make me happy is this faggot being murdered
>>279748840 (OP)This is all part of Yaemori's ploy. She's been the mastermind this whole time, and is the reason the date failed. Chizuru saw the signs, his date with Mini was the experience they should have had. Her support position had been upended by Mini, and Chizuru knew that her being replaced was inevitable. No wonder she had decided to let him go.
>>279759155>that's not enough, make sure you go to dinner with Umi too!I have no idea what you are talking about, nothing weird going on here at all.
>>279759381i wasn't familiar with her insect ways
Forgot to say something...
Next chapter will have the leading color page.
Somerhing gonna happen.
>>279752770In two weeks, we'll have the anime arc of the Hawaiians resort.
Meaning during the inevitable separation arc, we will have her (and Yaemori) reappear in the story as the season progresses with the other cast. I'm fucking ready.
Remind me why does Sumi exist
>>279760212Girlfriend bait just in case Mizuhara needs to throw her at anyone. *wink* *wink*
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>>279760212She is Chorizo's one friend that knows her rental side and probably will make an appearance to avert Kmszuya's depression. She hasn't been around in a 120 chapters but it was two weeks ago (in-universe).
>>279760481Sumi is in Team Chorizo tho.
Mimi is gonna be the one who's gonna capitalize on Kazuya's abyss.
>>279760498You're right Sumi has no reason to help Kazuya unless he asks her but I could imagine her upbraiding Chizuru for sure.
>>279760498Summer would totally steal Chonks man, it's not like it's working out anyway.
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>>279760771Real and canon
>>279760498Mickey is too much of a wingman to pull that.
>>279760985>Mickey is too much of a wingman to pull that.However, Minnie fell for Kaz alongside the practice date and even told Chucks she was gonna stay by hie side.
>>279761071Ketchup is just her friend.
>>279760985Rupert will get to Kasey first anyway.
>>279761071Sounds like this Mickey should choke a rat.
>>279750389Mini: mada mada da ne.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DIDN'T HE START GROVELLING BEGGING ME TO SAY YES HE SHOULD'VE BEEN ON HIS KNEES BAWLING HIS EYES OUT. IT'S HIS FAULT I SAID NO
What a dumb bitch.
Sex gonna happen.
But that will be their definite goodbye.
Mark my words.
>>279752277Jap dudes are so starved for basic affection from women that they have to resort to this. No, I'm not exaggerating. As far as hookers go, the key is this right here
>if they like you they will invite you to hang outnever happening. Jap hookers hate most of the slobs they entertain.
>>279761260he will next chapter
>>279761260>people believing she is sad or regrets itIn reality it's just because her feet hurt.
>>279762260And he didn't notice it
>>279749722 Jesus fucking Christ. This fag deserves to have every fandom on earth to shit on him.
>>279753521so what's it gonna be? he'll open up now for sure unlike back there where he bottled his emotions. is he gonna be angry? will we finally see him lash out at her?
>>279762260Literally canon kek
>>279761522definitely an option. I give it 10% of happening.
>>279757879It's even more general than that. Lots of young men went through a phase where they were after a girl that didn't quite like them as much as they did, and no matter how much you fight for that love it doesn't guarantee you the girl will reciprocate. It happens all the time. You can say what you want about this manga, but it depicts the mental state of a guy in this situation pretty accurately, so many can empathize with Kazuya.
>>279763684He will probably just cry.
>>279763709>shoe is a loose fit>somehow still get a blisterJesus this is awful to watch.
>>279752023Mini to save this story again
>>279750670What the fuck are you even talking about you fucking retard
I know this feel all too well, I hate it /a/. Hold me please.
>>279757879I swear to god this is blackpill doomer propaganda masquerading as quirky romcom slop.
>haha look at this funny boy being silly spending money on wacky girl>SPENDING YOUR TIME, RESOURCES AND HOPES ON WOMEN IS POINTLESS, THEY ARE SIMPLY IN IT TO EXPLOIT YOU FOR THEIR OWN DESIRES. YOU DO NOT FACTOR INTO HER LIFE AT ALL BESIDES AS A SOURCE OF INCOME
>>279761708>I, a random faggot on 4chan, have accurate knowledge on the likes and dislikes of Japanese hookers.
>>279757879You will be very very surprised when you learn that after 30, you will stop having any meaningful connection. It is as if the world just becomes disconnected and you cant find anyone.
>>279764109Hostess bars are the equivalent of Chiz and they're quite honest on some Youtuber interviews. They hate their clients and you exist only as a wallet to them.
>>279764096He's clearly doing the opposite, just your standard two steps forward one step back.
>>279764129>You will be very very surprised when you learn that after 30Women seem to be speedrunning this to their teens, High School girls counting down the days to turning 18 so they can start an OF and exploit men and being part of the competitive social media Man Hate team.
There we go, that's much better.
>>279764151Im amazed how cool early Kazuya was. Its sad the disaster he became after meeting Chorizo
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>>279764096MOGGGGGGG
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>>279764446>tigerโs denOh right that chapter. The one where Umi confesses his eternal love for Mizuhara out of view of everyone even the readers and she kisses and has sex with him behind closed doors. Keep forgetting the anime has yet to cover that part.
Yeah, for me it is pic related. The Manga's lows are so fucking abysmal, but good lord if the highs aren't the definition of PEAK.
I never thought this would happen, but this is the first time I have empathized with Kazuya, sasuga Miyajima..
Here's hopes Mizuhara will start crying next chapter. I would expect that emotionless veil to finally drop gud facking gawd.
He'll get Chizuru in the end. This isn't that sort of manga that would go for a bittersweet or downer ending.
>>279764706literally me since the beginning
>>279764851Yeah but I'll be dead before that happens.
>>279755693Read between the lines faggot
>Meek reactions to the rejection>Fateful encounter writtenBack to the status quo in 10 chapters
>>279765031You really think they are going to keep living together?
>>279764972See you in the 2030s for chapter 600
>>279764851>This isn't that sort of manga that would go for a bittersweet or downer ending.You got any evidence to support this line of reasoning? Iโm genuinely curious if people actually believe this or theyโre just full on copium and live in a completely different plane of reality from other people because I canโt really tell.
>>279764706Agree, itโs a really good page. Between all his goofy antics you donโt often see reality come crushing down on him like that. You can really feel it
>>279765160>evidenceThe manga, just the entire thing.
>>279764077You mean you have attempted to court a female before? Normalscum like you get the rope.
>>279764446Is that Banri?
>>279765124>I like you but I have a job>The guy is brokeThe fact that Kazuya didnt go on an incel rant or have NTR imaginations is very telling.
Unless Chizuru kicks him out, he will shamelessly live there
>>279765347The movers are already scheduled, unless she stops him he is already going to leave.
>>279765347I thought his planned move out date is the next day?
>>279749785A healthy human being would have melted down. Kazuya is delusional and in full denial.
>>279765464That was a melt down.
>>279765471Nope. He didn't lash out at her or grieved over all the money he wasted on her.
>>279765487Welp, that's life.
>>279765160You're a newfag who's only read two romcoms max.
>>279761260>reject someone>feel guilty and glum about it afterwardsWhy, is she retarded?
>>279765254At least accept the possibility of a bittersweet ending. This manga is not Kaguya where you just know the mc and fmc will end up together and have lots and lots of sex.
>>279761260>I love you but can't be with you because...I just can't, okay?!!!Woman moment
>>279765626I don't think so Tim.
>>279765608I mean, rejecting someone you love must feel terrible
>>279765675Your call. Personally I believe Umi will come around the corner and sweep Chizuru off her feet. If anything she definitely does not not like him and will date him for free just like she did so many times before off-screen. And he might take Ruka and co with him with both arms just because.
>>279765487No one with actual common sense, high IQ and high EQ would lash out at Chizuru after getting rejected like this.
>>279761260That angle is unflattering on Chizuru. She looks fat.
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>>279765608She is a woman please understand.
So between marin and zuya, who had it worse?
>>279765608No just secretly happy. Sheโs been wanting to stop this for the longest time but as sheโs a doormat with no resolve or and almost no assertiveness of her own thereโs no way to do this without looking bad.
>>279766713>who are these people>why am I here>they don't know of my 100s of boyfriends
>>279766713Chizuru has no real friends. Sheโs too pretty for them.
>>279765896The one with no dignity left in them.
>>279766713>disregard bitches>acquire currency
>>279764706Pages like this are why this manga is truly baffling, rather than just $all trash, all the time.' After all the horrendous, bullshit that's been said to and by this kid, this is a moment where he's stopped worshipping his escort not-girlfriend, stopped trying to appeal to some invisible scoreboard to see why he didn't trigger the love flag, and finally living with the reality of what happened. Not a cartoonish facial expression or beret in sight. The inevitable backslide from this will be particularly jarring.
>>279767067Key to understanding Kanokari as a work of art is to understand that the author is 100% sincere in the belief that men exist to worship the divinity of women. You have to contextualize this scene through that worldview; this is a low point for Kazuya not in fact because he realizes his endeavor was pointless, but because he no longer has an object of worship. His material loss is meaningless, his emotions are secondary, what's wrong is that spiritually he is rudderless. In time he will either return to worshiping a woman or have his affections returned after all; the manga will accordingly portray this as him either returning to his calling or having the light of final salvation descend upon him.
>>279767247I hate that you're right. This page belonged in a better manga.
>>279767067Reiji has done this multiple times by now. Kazuya will be back on the simp train just as soon and easily as Mizuhara plants her rental lips on him again and concludes this investigation nonsense with another maybe/I think/I might/however.
>>279767565Being into a girl who is kissing you is normal.
>>279767247>the author is 100% sincere in the belief that men exist to worship the divinity of womenno hes not idiot
>>279767620I donโt know this level of simping is not. And I always thought it weird he has no feelings for Ruka when she basically mouthraped him inside his parentโs house. And again itโs weird heโs just so callous about her removing the keychain and all.
>>279767851No it FUCKING isn't
>>279748840 (OP)The cracked phone takes this to a new level of pathetic.
He really is spending everything on Chorizo. He can't even spare the money for a new phone.
>>279766797>Chizuru has no real friends.She has Sumi, the one person that can't talk back at her.
>>279768068You could replace Sumi with a teddy bear that just sits there it would still fulfill Sumiโs role.
>>279764096it's good regardless if you think it's good or bad, but its a good story because it's realistic and engaging, it's only a black pill if you don't learn from it
>>279767911There is a reason for it which actually is even more pathetic in retrospect, but maybe it's time for him to actually replace that.
>>279765935>No just secretly happy. I don't think she actually feels anything, she rejected him, because that was the logical thing to do. We even got a flashback to granny teaching her that she shouldn't lead men on, but reject them right away so they can move on and take pride in all the hearts she broke.
>Sheโs been wanting to stop this for the longest time That's somewhat true, but also inaccurate, the best way to look at it is to realize how she didn't have a need for Kazuya any more.
>but as sheโs a doormat with no resolve or and almost no assertiveness of her own thereโs no way to do this without looking bad.That's funny, because that's true otherwise, but only when interacting with Kazuya she isn't that way.
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WIN WIN WIN
>Fall in love with a bad boy
>He somehow turns into a pussy
Look everything bad that has happened is entirely Kazuya's fault.
>>279768409Just a heads up you are wrong about everything.
>>279768480She can get a temporary lead, but remember how loaded her win is in reality:
Telling Granny Chizuru dumped him is the easiest part.
Granny believes miss Ruka is Chziuru's childhood friend and Kazuya putting his sticky fingers on her is a big no-no.
Telling the truth makes all of them look like pieces of shit. Not telling the truth makes Ruka and Kazuya look like pieces of shit.
I guess they can date without telling granny, but what if Ruka'll want more?
>>279768505I bet you believed she took the ring to propose to him or some shit.
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>>279768579100 make it 1000, She is doing the whole Senbazuru thing, but with rejections, to live up to her name.
>>279768586As if that actually matters to him.
>>279768579>I Love you and can't wear your ring *yet*
>>279766835So both?
>Marin ditched cosplay as a pastime hobby to be an average model>Kazuya
>>279768480No, she deserves better.
>>279768593People died.
>>279768681Yeah, I bet you only remember what you want to remember.
"She might love him", but that's not all there is to it. She didn't just reject him on a whim, or for her job. there's a lot of baggage that comes with this relationship and things that we were lead to believe would push them closer actually did the opposite.
>>279768593Leave her alone, she's in a better place now, with her 'boyfriend'.
>>279768819>He thinks turn him down means do thatLook you are just retarded, that's why I only said you were wrong and not why at first.
>>279768696Yes, she is a backup, always was, Kazuya always was a piece of shit, nothing changed.
>>279768861>Kazuya replacementSad, or are they diffรฉrent?
>>279768881He needs to replace his backup with Mini, she can still be a secondary backup.
>>279768894He's much different
>>279768669I am really surprised Ruka isnโt the first thing to pop up in his mind as to why Mizuhara rejected him. But Iโm not shocked. He really doesnโt care for her nor is concerned about her existence as the real girlfriend. Why would he? Perfection to him is right in front of him not beside him.
>>279768723Marin at least got together with her crush after 115 chapters. There is really no contest.
>>279768894>Kazuya replacementTechnically she met him before the main manga lead us to believe she likes Kazuya.
>are they diffรฉrent?He's nothing like Kazuya.
>>279768486He still is a bad boy to the girls he doesn't care about, aka Ruka.
>>279768924It's to early, wait for him to feel lonely after she moves out. People expect Chizuru to get lonely, but it will be him instead and he'll unwillingly go to his date with Ruka, but end up having fun.
>>279764019its the loose heel rubbing up against her achillies, causing a sore.
>>279768068Bro Sumi can show fangs when it matters, as show against Mami.
It's not out of the equation she calls Mizuhara out for her lacking if sensitiveness, at least I want to believe so.
>>279769000He's going to start living alone with Mini now so I really don't think he's going to be lonely.
>>279769039>Sumi can show fangsDon't mistake Sumi sticking to the renkano handbook as her showing fangs.
>>279769046>Mini is going to vrainwash and keep him down inside the fantasy world with her bullshitI have a bad feeling about this
>>279769046I mean He is moving out, I mistyped.
He isn't going to live with Mini, we don't even know if Mini will stay with Chizuru or not.
>>279769114We do actually, Mini has told Chizuru several times such as in the bath that she would always side with Kazuya over her.
>>279769094I admit I forgot all off that of didn't understand it.
I suppose there's some Mizuhara touch in this renkano handbook following, since Mizuhara does the same to a distateful extreme
>>279768480>kazuya refused to breed this>thriceBruh.
>>279769142Doesn't mean they'll live together or even close to each other.
>>279769204It's a logical development, since they both need somewhere to live. I mean obviously Mini is going to physically punch Chizuru very soon.
You now remember Sumi's very fuckable ass.
>>279769178Mami called Chizuru out for answers straight from a handbook, but it always was treated as a meme. From the spinoff we know it actually exists though.
>>279769226It isn't , pretty sure Mini wouldn't have a problem staying with one of her friends for a while. Kazuya could only move to his new place after a month: that's why the cohabitation even happened and Chizuru took in Mini so she won't be alone with him. They've become somewhat close during her stay, so I can imagine her staying, but after she said she'll be in Kazuya's corner I doubt that.
>>279769509You are going to have to stop being so oblivious if you ever want to stop being a virgin anon.
>>279748840 (OP)How does the anime compare to the manga?
It certainly fixes the pacing.
>>279765774>date him for free just like she did so many times before off-screen.Kek, the only time Umi got a "date" was through lying and blackmail and things got so bad he made Chizuru of all people confess her love for Kazuya.
Baiting with Umi is pathetic, Chizuru deserves to be alone for the rest of her life
>>279769545>scene that was literally nothing and resolved immediatelyreally, sexhaving normalfaggot?
>>279769647>your girl does this to some other man>it's literally nothing guys, haha ha
>>279769566Both KanoKari and Shiunji benefit a lot from the anime, especially when there is ass fanservice involved (a clear weakness on Reiji's drawing skills).
>>279769624>Baiting with Umi is patheticcaptcha: JAV8X
>>279769545I'm aware Reiji was teasing with Mini. I don't consider it as something serious, because I don't consider Mini a serious character. She served her role and will fade out, just like Sumi.
>>279769909Mini is a plot device/mouthpiece, but it seems Reiji wants to do something with her. Maybe it's due to marketing?
Sumi is used for healing genuinely one of only good person in the whole story, she can't be used too often because she's too effective
>>279769936Yeah he set up way too many flags to not use her, and she was a main character this last arc.
>>279768961Every girl in the manga is more popular in universe than Chizuru, even Sumi.
>>279770012How dare she cheat on my self insert.
>>279770012>80k subscribersThis kid has more income than Kazuya kek.
>>279770034Kazuya never stood a chance.
>>279770069>I hope I can find a girl like you when I'm older>not "I'll wait 10 years"yep no kazuya there
>>279770069>when I'm older, not nowLoser
>>279770222Thanks I hate it.
https://www.x.com/kanokari_anime/status/1935261327506739378
>Kanokari watchalong
Season 1: with picrel
Season 2: with Chizuru's seiyuu
Season 3: with ????
Picrel has not worked on season 1 at all
>>279770308Getting fucked by bbc chad
I bet Mami will start renting herself soon.
I'd rent the shit out of Mami
>>279764027Mini already ruined it.
Even if sex happens, that won't confirm them as a couple, but instead, they will be ripped apart by Chizuru's goals and Mami and Mini's respective investigation results. This shit has to keep spinning its wheels until it reaches the next milestone. So if they just end together this arc, then you'll must accept that Kanokari may end around vol. 44.
Hey, laybe those who think they'll leave from this arc as a couple just want this shit to be over already lmao.
>>279764030I read the manga and pick on the subtle foreshadowings.
>>279768192It's a blackpill because it shows how women really are.
>>279770531Literally no way they will have sex unless it's post story.
>>279769669Mini is single, thougheverbeittheless
>>279768627Kys, putafag.
Next arc will have Chizuru and Kazuya respectively fucking other people, getting into separate troubles and doing their separate lives until fate reunites them again despite Chizuru having taken Kazuya's first, if such a thing happens
>>279768627That same shit is what's gonna take Kazuya away from her.
>>279768924Dunno, but having Mini in his mind is actually worse because she's on her shishou's side and has a quite harsh opinion about Chizuru (it can get worse).
Him telling Mini it didn't work guarantees chaos.
>>279769000Chizuru's the one who's feeling like shit inside the acting club (her birthday chapters showed it). Just give her the whole summer separated to actually long for Kazuya.
>>279769114>>279769142Dunno me, but i hve a gut feeling Mini will get the apart next to Kazuya's without him knowing. She's le neighbor character Reiji always wanted to write after all.
However, there's Mami's plot too. Don't discard Kazuya giving her a shelter in case she runs away from her family and her own investigation reaches the conclusion she needs Kazuya.
>>279770736Mami's plot is just going to be more of the same, she will get hung up on again and then that's it for her arc.
>>279769909Reiji wanted a neighbor character, he never considered her a plot device.
Everything that happens after the cohab will show a thing. Seems Reiji got called out not by his editor, but by Shintaro Kawakubo (WSM EIC) himself for neglecting the other bitches, Ruka crowdfunding's success may have been the final wake up call for that.
>>279770762>Mami's plot is just going to be more of the same, she will get hung up on again and then that's it for her arc.Kek. The status quo regarding rental, MC, ex and neighbor got destroyed. Mami's increasingly depressive behavior and Kazuya living rent free in her head aren't shit we must look over.
I would believe you if everytime she looks at that photo in Shimoda she does it with abyss'd eyes, but after Hawaiians, she is looking that photo with a feeling of longing.
>>279770846>The status quo regarding rental, MC, ex and neighbor got destroyed.Not so fast, wait a chapter or two and Kazuya will ask hr if he can still rent her, because he isn't ready to tell granny they broke up.
>>279770846She exists to be a bad example, it's important that her life is shit, this is on purpose.
reading this might be what being in the purgatory feels like
>>279770886Chizuru is the one who pushed to keep the rental thing going for what is now almost 300 chapters anon
>>279770931No, all she ever did was ask him to not tell their grandmothers the truth. He wanted to continue the renting.
>>279770893This ain't a cautionary tale about life choices.
She'll be back into Kazuya's life soon. Chizuru isn't the only one who's making an investigation, remember that.
>>279771302That's chapter 19 and pic is chapter 90.
Try again
>>279771330You are as delusional as the retards who think Umi is going to get with Chizuru.
>>279771405>delusionalChizuru is the delusional one
>>279771302>He wanted to continue the renting.Anon, read the manga thoroughly.
Kazuya tried to tell her, and his grandma, the truth, but Chizuru whined about not wanting it and even threw tantrums. The only time they reached a common ground to finish the lie was in hawaiians, but Mami dropped the phone and Chizuru kissed him to save face out of her grudge against her. This manga is about how (the red string of) fate will always find the most convoluted ways to bring them together back (and mutually rejecting each other until the final arc), no matter if they get separated for who knows how much time.
>>279771405Enjoy a 100 chapters separation arc.
I know from a meta fact Chizuru might end dating Umi because of an irony: despite of not having feelings for him, Umi is the safe trampolin for stardom.
It's all about real life logic and woman moments.
>>279771465Don't forget when she slapped the simp into him when he was talking about leaving her.
>>279771499That's great buddy, let me know if you want any help tying your shoes.
>>279771450also, don't forget how Umi was in the same situation as Kazuya: she also asked him for more time. While here she'd probably reject him, the answer might've changed: the same investigation to lead her to reject Kazuya leads her to chose Umi. If one of factors she considered was her current lifestyle and career he would be a better choice.
>>279769331I had a feeling she was fake as fuck because on first chapters she was referring to the rental industry rules to justify her anger, maybe she really is into those, that'd make her shallow as hell.
If she planned the Wednesday dates out of some guilt over Grandma Nagomi's dream that's just creepy how low she can subject herself to
>>279771551He knows once she says no game is over for his heart.
Maybe Mizuhara thinks it will be the same for Kazuya, Hence stringing him along
>>279771640That much is obvious. Maybe she'll turn them both down, but for now we saw one rejection, so her dating Umi is still on the table and it's somewhat convenient that the only date that worked for her was right before he moves out since last time he complained that she lives with a guy.
>>279771590>I had a feeling she was fake as fuckIt's literary her job.
>>279771695>literaryThis is getting sad
>>279771640It's not as easy and linear as you think.
A reminder she met someone the day before the date. Whether it was Umi, Juudai or a customer with connections with the showbiz, we still don't know yet, but that may be the core reason she rejected Kazuya. Guilt and spinelessness to face grandma and kibe and her beef against Mami may be truths, but they may be hiding an even bigger lie.
>>279771755Look bro you are just dumb okay, best of luck with that.
kek, even the: "everywhere around me are happy couples" bit was already done.
>>279771776>Zurusimp can't into critical debate and resorts to insults.Kek, having to deal with irl underage kids after work is tiresome, but dealing with edgy underage anons who can't take their shipping goggles out of their eyes is embarassing and cringe desu.
I already told you they'll end together in the end, once the story reaches its final volume, but right now, they won't. If sex happens, it will feel like a pity fuck or a goodbye sex until fate tries to reunite them.
>>279771893>girlfriend and the ring 11Kazuya didn't take out the damn ring from his bag and one way or another it fells out during his date with Ruka.
She thinks he wanted to propose is supper happy takes the ring, and tries it on right away.
>>279771920If you are going to try a comedy routine you need to get better jokes.
>>279771551>>279771679>she also asked him for more time.The fuck are you on? Umi asked for more time, not Chizuru, she rejected him multiple times already
>If one of factors she considered was her current lifestyle and career he would be a better choice.Not at all. Kazuya would do whatever Chizuru asks him without asking for nothing in return, Umi wouldn't
See
>>279769624Kys please
>>279771833Pic related has more chances to happen althoughbeit.
replace Sumi with Mami or Mini tho
>>279771997Yeah that's why I was only insulting that guy, he is seriously retarded.
>>279771679>>279771796>Anon's is desperately hungry for a fictional character's dickSad
>>279771979Sure, kiddo. Come back to debate with me when you're 18.
>>279771997Until Chizuru vocalizes her rejection to him, nothing is written in stone.
The only thing we know is that Chizuru rejected Kazuya, guilt and fate may make things actually fucked up if they end up fucking (pity sex and farewell there's a pattern i found since Hawaiians about that. 3 months of ghosting came after sex, so if sex happens those 3 months of ghosting can turn into 3 months or even more of a bitter severance). Chizuru's brain is either wired differently OR has some survivor guilt ptsd that makes her always take the worst decision.
Remember this:
>I think i may like you, but i can't date you now (i use the RAWs, not the embellished TL).So the other side of the coin is obviously.
>I don't like you, but i feel like we can be together now. Let's go out.This also applies to Kazuya's side too.
>>279772035And that's why you are a fucking underage sperg unable to accept debates that put your ship on disadvantage.
>>279772138>3 months of ghosting came after that kiss.Fixed.
>>279771997>Umi asked for more time"I'd also like a little more time..."
What do you think he means, when says 'also'? He asked her out during the tiger's den arc, she told him to give her time for an answer and she stormed out from the party.
Now Umi wants more time, before he hears the answer: he suspects a rejection and asks her for more time, so he can keep loving her a little longer.
>Kazuya would do whatever Chizuru asks him without asking for nothing in returnWhich is a problem in its self
>>279772138> Chizuru's brain is either wired differentlyChizuru's "brain" is literally wired. That's the problem.
>>279772138>Chizuru's brain is either wired differently OR has some survivor guilt ptsd that makes her always take the worst decision.Her brain is in the right place
>>279769882
>>279772179>3 months of ghosting came after that kiss.it also came after she got exposed and she didn't want anything to do with any of those people anymore.
>>279771893Story undergoes a thematic hard reset and return to ground minus one. Now it's the manga itself that makes fun of Kazuya and Chizuru's severance by showing why this return to the norm should never happen.
>Kazuya back with Mami (she lives w/ him until she finds a stable job that can make her rent a more decent flat) and estranged from Chizuru, hides his situation to Ruka bc he also keeps trial dating her, one of the 2 anomalies in this reset, the other is Mini also wanting something with Kazuya. He is apparently doing fine, but feels empty. Mami is the one who pushes him for an internship so he can "distract himself from having to remembering those painful things".>Chizuru becomes a walking McGuffin with only sporadic cameos. Either she has a cameo doing her job as a RaG or she's fake-dating Umi, but doesn't enjoy neither of those things, or Kazuya finds out she is starting to rise up as an actress because she started to appear in gravure (or fashion) magazines and there are news she got an important role in a movie. Mami, Ruka or Mini pick on his sudden feeling of longing and uses woman psychology to defuse it (maybe a commentary about being "happy" for her fulfilling her dream of being an actress, making an intentionally placed commentary about her being in another world from them to prevent Kazuya from longing harder)That's just for ch400. The overall arc excuse for Kazuya having to rent Chizuru again is Nagomi falling sick and thinking this time she won't make it so she wants to see Chizuru one last time, despite of everything, she still considers her as the granddaughter she always wanted.
>>279772260>Now Umi wants more time, before he hears the answer: he suspects a rejection and asks her for more time, so he can keep loving her a little longer.And we know that she rejected Kazuya for stupid reasons (and probably will add more garlic to the wound if she gives him pity/farewell sex), so for the same stupid reasons, she'll end accepting Umi.
>Kanokari will end with 44 volumes/402 chapters. Despite of anime merch still being profitable and expositions and crowdfunding campaigns showing it still has engagement, Kodansha's Q1 results pointed out Kanokari manga is making them lose the money they win from its merch and stunts.
>Ch398 will have the "last 5 chapters counting the ongoing one" announcement. The announcement will be done on Reiji's twitter within the weekly chapter release notification, not in the magazine. Reiji stopped caring about Kanokari on twitter and is giving more attention to Shiunji, that should tell you everything.
>Vol. 42, 43 and 44 (last) marketing schemes were already decided. It includes PVs aside from the ordinary lead/center color page stunt. Final volume may have a special edition, that was not decided yet tho.
>Watershed moment coming soon.
>No anime original end for 2nd cour. It leaves room for a final season or wrapping things with a movie
I may be arrested for leaking this, so you're welcome.
>>279773341I wish this was true but it's clear this is just a fantasy.
Seems anon from
>>279743087 cracked a code.
Although if that rumor of Kanokari ending very soon between the 2 cours ends being true, it would be hyper rushed and dunno how it would fit in 20 chapters.
Mami returning and being desperate to escape from her family to the point of wanting a kid with Kazuya and get married in secret. Chizuru sees things are going full circle, but remembers Kazuya's words in ch1 about wasting her life, recalls the reason why Sayuri left the showbiz after doing only one movie, the dark reason mom died when Chizuru was a toddler and doesn't feel ok with things ending like that. Realizes she is indeed wasting her time and chooses to throw everything away for a last shot... even if Kazuya says no, or even if she contradicts herself out of disappointment at Kazuya not being willing to take her, she'll end chasing him.
>>279773819If they end having sex and becoming a couple during the next 7 chapters, then you'll know it's the end.
This cursed timeline could be prevented if Akane won.
>>279774322Akane won tho.
>>279772000Kazuya should have lusted over Sumi more. Her petiteness drives me crazy.
>>279770332Did she work on the other seasons?
>>279772674Chizuru may be a bitch but my God it's almost as if Kazuya wanted to be rejected
>(#133)
Kazuya not giving up on Mizuhara even after being dumped is synonymous with Ruka not giving up on Kazuya
Kazuya will not be able to push Ruka away in the future
Kek... seems Reiji already has his "rushed end" copout: a Punpun-lite/AKB/Drowning Fireworks end.
Ruka was the default winner in the LA.
>>279772674Because Chizuru is shit?
Checked the 5ch comments.
Some are in huge copium thinking Yaemori made divine interference to make them reunite.
>>279776732I like the ones that meme on the "this is due to Mizuhara kindness"
Man, imagine if Reiji subverts our expectations and either Chizuru or Kazuya bumps into someone else and the other is forced to hide and eavesdrop.
>>279773341That's why it's getting another season of anime, right? As if making that isn't straight up burning money.
I have been thinking about this series these past 2 weeks way more than I should, not gonna lie, but too many things have been on my mind, let's call them 'hunches.'
> this is not the first time she has done this; there's a pattern of her bowing down and apologizing when she is clearly aware of doing wrong, pic related (Chapter 239)
> Chizuru impulsively grabbed Kazuya's hand prior to the rejection
> the only other time she has done this, was, when she grabbed Mami's hand out of impulse on the bridge (Chapter 49)
> To quote from that scene, "Did it ever cross your mind, that this may be the person, who can make you truly happy?"
> something confronting her in the future (oh good lawd please let it be Mini, oh please) will 100% remind her of this, just roles-reversed this time
> back to Chapter 381
> she looks back to see if Kazuya is still in her proximity
> see her sitting on a bench by herself
> "..."
> we don't see the rest of the scene
> last panel of the chapter
> last panel of her that we can see
> her facial expressions aren't drawn
I bet all of my ROMCOMbucks on Kazuya meeting Chizuru while she is crying.
>>279776930Although in hindsight, if Yaemori is forcing her hand, it means "fate" is pure and unadulterated bullshit. What's next is gonna be staged af if true.
Maybe the true fate wants for "Mizuhara" and Kazuya to separate, that 1st rental date maybe was a meeting that should never have happened.
>>279765656THE woman moment
>>279777150>I bet all of my ROMCOMbucks on Kazuya meeting Chizuru while she is crying.Honestly, nice theory anon. Nice to see
>>279768480Kuri deserves Ruka, not Kazumonkey
Sex with Sumi
Sex with Mami
Sex with Ruka
Sex with Mini
Chizuru a shit
>>279777037>That's why it's getting another season of anime, right? As if making that isn't straight up burning moneyAnime got a S4 because that fucking resort is sponsoring the season and collaborating with the budget. Otherwise, Kodansha wouldn't have greenlit it.
If we get a S5, it's gonna be because of Joypolis probably funding it.
>>279777515Ruka's feelings will never change.
>>279777595Sure, but she deserves better than Kazuya.
>>279777526Chizuru is objectively the best written female in the manga. Only contrarians and reddit hate her.
>>279777562>that fucking resort is sponsoring the season and collaborating with the budget.Source?
>>279777150Inb4 Mini gave her a total verbal beatdown through line and called her all the names (sneaky coward whore who thinks she's above and beyond the rest) while Kazuya was still at the train.
Reiji may be up to something. Although it would debunk the concept of fate itself and confirm every fucking good thing happening was staged and the natural course is for them to have never met each other.
>>279777625Sure plebbitor
>>279774012Ha that's funny timing, thanks anon. I don't think the Manga is going to end anytime soon, I would give it 50-100 chapters from here, minimum.
Cont. from
>>279777150, but something that has also been on my mind A LOT is the meta-narrative of the story
> Why is the most discourse I hear from readers about 'Kazuya being horrible'? Him and Mizuhara have always been deeply-flawed, dislikeable characters, duh> was the flashback of Mizuhara talking with her Grandma about rejection supposed to function as social commentary ('girls/love interests who put you on hold for ages are horrible')?> Mizuhara getting blisters after her rejection> My mind can't stop itself from connecting it with the story of 'Cinderella'And the worst of it all...AM I REACHING!?? Miyaji-REIJI, I NEED ANSWERS!
Has this been the hack's intention all along, or am I giving the guy too much credit?
What is verdict? Is she going to accept his feelings later and all of this is just a pointless drama?
>>279778288Kazuya needs several arcs worth of character development first
so 200 more chapters it is!
>>279778288unlikely, she's out
>>279778288Everything after they came back from the resort was pointless drama.
>>279778288>Is she going to accept his feelings laterVery unlikely. Maybe let their bodies speak for them and then goodbye.
>and all of this is just a pointless drama?Anon-kun... the despair just begun.
>>279778288Numerous characters through the series including her grandma have been saying how he is perfect for Chizuru, how it's obviously love and all that stuff, but here Chizuru exacts her own will, backpedaling on this would be a waste, but it wouldn't be the first time.
>>279778288She already accepted his feelings, bitch even said she loves him.
This drama isn't pointless, people always go on and on about how nothing changes and when it does they keep repeating it.
The filler sucks, but things go slowly and permanently change
>>279778848>here Chizuru exacts her own willThis isn't he will at all.
That's the problem.
>>279778716It was not? Chizuru finally gave Kazuya a shot and they are living together. Yeah, she ruined fucking everything, but that's to bring more drama
And before you start, I would bet a kidney in the ghosting coming biting her ass later on, Ruka saw Kazuya's state
>>279779018>Yeah, she ruined fucking everything, but that's to bring more dramaThat's the problem.
The story ended on the resort arc. She became a robot after that to keep publication, but the story is already over.
>>279778288Chizuru will get with the cuck in the end. If this was a NTR story, then Umi would've painted Chizuru and Ruka insides.
>>279772674We already know itโs because of Ruka. She wonโt stomp on her clear feelings of love with her own โmaybeโ feelings no matter what the simp did. If anything itโs still not fair she wasnโt entirely honest when she rejected him because it was her fault to begin with.
Sex will basically spell the end of the manga. If it happens before S4 there would be no reason to continue following Kazuyaโs journey. Get ready to bid your 8-year series goodbye.
>>279778958>She already accepted his feelings, bitch even said she loves him.She said she THINKS, that, MAYBE she likes him, but as for her, her customers' feelings and career are more important.
>This drama isn't pointless, people always go on and on about how nothing changes and when it does they keep repeating it.It isn't pointless, but not for the reasons you think. This "fated" reencounter only calls for the current status quo being burnt away and going back even beyond to the very starting point. The only difference is that both estranged parts will feel empty af while trying to cope to move forward. But it's necessary for them to develop.
>The filler sucks, but things go slowly and permanently changeI agree on that.
>>279779098>She became a robot after that to keep publicationShe's anything but a robot currently. Robots don't fuck up as badly as she did
>>279749722This guy deserves to end broke and lonely
>>279779349She's definitely not human currently. No sane human "investigates her feelings".
>>279779018>Yeah, she ruined fucking everything, but that's to bring more dramaLet's stop calling it just drama, what may come next is sheer misery porn.
especially if Chizuru and Kazuya let their bodies speak, but then she ends thinking she did something unforgivaburu and chooses to cut absolute contact with him and Mini
>>279779108>We already know itโs because of RukaNot just Ruka, she thinks Mami still loves him and is distrustful of Mini's intentions.
>>279779381>This guy deserves to end broke and lonelyRuka ain't giving up on him. Although she's the bad end (Punpun-lite/AKB) route because of that.
>>279779410She's not sane, I'll give you that
>>279779639And the only reason she isn't is to keep the manga going, so yeah, pointless drama.
>>279779518>she thinks Mami still loves himAnd she doesnโt care. She would kiss her ex in front of her again just to make her mad. Mami has done nothing but add discord that when compared to her maybe feelings with Mamiโs mentally ill woman feelings her maybe feelings win out.
>>279779685No, she's not sane because she's a fucking idiot. The drama isn't pointless because their relationship needed to change and the status quo broken. You can't keep having Kazuya smell Chizuru's farts and have him think they should make a fragrance out them
>>279752236Why would she do that when they dated for a month and partially dumped him because he was already in "she needs to meet my parents" mode
>>279753345It's okay anon you can admit you want to watch a good soap
>>279774322At least her (not)twin from a (disaster struck) town from Tohoku won.
>>279779833> The drama isn't pointless And people keep asking who is this written for.
>>279779978>"Nooo, you can't enjoy the story!!! You only can shit on it and make reddit tier takes on it!!!!"
>>279780090Enjoy what you want, just don't claim its well written when it clearly isn't.
>>279779866>Using ้บปไน as her rental app name.>Taking Chizuru's words about facing Kazuya's feelings head on and then her harsher words about being obsessed with Kazuya and having to investigate her heart kinda seriously.>Kazuya living rent free 24/7 in her head.>Trying to make some small advances the retard can't pick up because his mind is corrupted by Mizuhara schizophrenia.
>>279780224It seems you have trouble reading anon, because I never claimed that.
Plus talking about your opinion as the correct objective one gives me level of second hand embarrassment I didn't were possible
>>279780317>because I never claimed that.>>279779833>Plus talking about your opinion as the correct objective one gives me level of second hand embarrassment I didn't were possibleWhen did I say my opinion is objectively correct?
>>279779108>She wonโt stomp on her clear feelings of love with herThis is so retarded because she had no problems dating her boyfriend behind her back lmao but Reji wants you to believe that she totally cares bro
>>279781052She's a total contradiction. Ruka was the cover excuse for Mini, but truth is that it's because of Mami mostly.
>>279779221>Sex will basically spell the end of the mangaChizuru's gomennasai survivor guilt/Reiji pushing for 500 chapters/Mini/Mami/Ruka/Showbiz/Umi: mada mada dane.
>drain hundred of thousand from his bank account
>ghosts him
>makes him lie to his family
>strings him along
am i supposed to like her?
He messed up by giving her the ick.
>>279782204Mini tried to tell us something
>>279782247>Lower panel at right showing Kazuya in darker tones, line suggesting him daring to lash out at Mini and disrespecting their friendship bc he's too much on whiteknight mode.>Mini read him and chose to keep throwing GRVTAL GRVKE TRVKES at him, rendering unable to counter her.Mini cucked Kazuya from having his abyss moment.
>>279782355Unfortunate he haven't taken the warnings with how much beer he has drunk.
Reiji genius mangaka dragging the story
>>279749722Yeah, it doesn't take much.
>>279782509Kek.
You can tell Kazuya kind of felt shocked in a negative way, he finds her weird at that point, and that shit disturbs him.
And what if he convinced himself he is in love with Mizuhara simply to try to move from Mami?? His masturbation scene was too telling it was him trying to force Mizuhara into his mind. Him fucking Mami is his final attempt to taint her in his mind. It's more like he's running away from her, and he's only convincing himself he's just moved on.
>>279779410Chizuru does, because she foolishly thought that "being in love" means behaving like Ruka, being ready to throw away everything for it without a second thought and being ready to marry right away.
She's a fucking idiot, not a robot
>>279783502She's a robot, you're a fucking idiot for making such a stupid post
Would she have done it? Is this first time Mizuhara crossed the line? Or is this just routine?
Also Kazuya:
>she kisses boys as part of her regular job!
>therefore I shouldn't kiss her!
>>279783563Honestly speaking, Chixuru is a fucking retard.
Honestly we may know soon why Sayuri had the happiest and longest life after chosing to throw away her career to be with just a taxi driver, and she may slso know some dark shit about the acting industry, but also why Kasumi was abandoned by Chizuru's biodad and why she died some years after Chizuru's birth. Keywords: JAV, STD, cheating, husband disowning instead of understanding why she took the JAV route. Which path will Chizuru gravitate to?
>>279783758This is why the whole deal with renting persons is retarded.
>>279783502She a robot at best and a psychopath at worst.
In reality it's just (grand)daddy issues.
>>279783792It's not. It's clear that he fell in love with her because he experienced the perfect girlfriend act, he hated Chizuru's real personality at first.
i dont get the hate on chizuru, it would be in bad faith and a disrespect with kazuya's emotions if she started dating him without properly falling in love with him after all this talk about how she's in the fake girlfriend business precisely because she wants to learn about love
>>279785347>i dont get the hate on chizuruBecause she's a horrible person if she recognizes that a customer is actively falling head over heels for her in a hopeless way and she does nothing to dissuade him from continuing to rent her despite knowing that she does not reciprocate his feelings to even a small degree (initially). She's basically treated him like a walking bank and emotional support bot because she's deluded herself that she could never fall for a customer and takes in-universe the equivalency of tens of thousands of dollars from him as well as years of his life when she could have easily told the agency, "I need you to ban him from dating me because he is coming on too strong and becoming unable to tell reality from our rental service."
Don't bother responding to this post because I'm not interested in hearing a defense of her. She's a cunt and it's pretty obvious that Reiji has painted her into an emotionally retarded villain
>>279785347Because she accepted a date in which she acted like accepting Kazuya's confession was a given
She openly stated she's in love with him
Her reasons for rejecting him were beyond dumb
>>279785592>she's in love with himShe thinks she may like him.
For those same dumbass reasons she may ending accepting umi's confession, bc muh clients, muh work, muh career.
>>279785764Look anon, I know you yearn for Umi's dick every night, but "muh clients, muh work, muh career" are reasons that apply to Umi even more than Kazuya
>>279785347>dating him without properly falling in loveit's not marriage
>>279785904It's an irony, but Chizuru not having feelings for Umi would lead her to have a relationship with him "because of business"
>>279786026it's her morals
>>279786026does it matter? shes not going to date someone she doesn't love. You shouldn't either
>>279786069No anon:
- muh clients: she would feel bad for the clients of she had a boyfriend
- muh work: she would feel bad for her boyfriend if she kept working as a rental girlfriend
- muh career: Kazuya did much more than Umi could ever do for her career
Don't worry anon, you'll drink an Umi of Umi's cum soon enough. Don't lose hope!
>>279748840 (OP)>Mini did so much for me ... and yet it failed.Yes, you idiot. You had more -fun- with Mini! OPEN YOUR EYES.
>>279786306>Kazuya did much more than Umi could ever do for her careerDelusional, without Umi he wouldn't even achieve that much.
I get you hate the idea that Kazuya is right and she'd choose Umi over him, but with the rejection that just became more possible.
>>279786531Make sure to practice your blowjob skills, you wouldn't want to disappoint him, right. You'll get your ass plowed and cheeks clapped soon enough don worry!
>>279786531>Delusional, without Umi he wouldn't even achieve that much.He made a movie for Chizuru anon, Umi blackmailed Chizuru for a last minute tweet that helped the crowdfunding a bit.
I get you like shitposting, but doing it for the most popular arc of the series is dumb. Try baiting with something else, like the ghosting or the endless fillers
>>279785539>dissuade him from continuing to rent herYou obviously haven't read it since they haven't been renting forever. Just here to troll?
>>279786661KuZuru shippers sure like to bring debate down to insults and flamewarring when they csn't defend thrir pov.
eh, Kazuya x Umi is endgame anyways
>>279788038Better than Chizuru hands down, his only competition is Sumi
>>279786536what if she only did that because Kazuya wanted to see the "real" her tho
>>279788534Him?? Pulling a Reiji??
This is where he fumbled. She knew she could never marry scum like him.
>>279790838I think it was when he got the resolve to to confess to Mizuhara and he faced her carrying tissues or hygenic paper.
>>279791059The whole point of that scene was her getting jealous.
The day Kazuya touches another woman on his own volition would be a grand milestone. But seeing how Reiji writes Arata makes me wonder why heโs so committed to the beta male bit for Kazu. No point in ruining the formula so heโll have to keep going with it.
>>279761260Most women actually want you to fight/beg for them after they reject you.
>>279791955It's meant to be that cause Kazuya is a deconstruction of typical harem beta MCs, no game-having shits like Yuuki Rito, with the horniness of Hyoudou Issei.
The problem with that is that Miyajima is making the worst caricature of already the worst kind of MC. It's an easy cop out for him cause in reality, he has no idea what he's doing when it comes to the romance genre.
Picrel, his original attempt at a shounen showed plenty of male forwardness. It's exactly how he wrote Kazuya is what struck a chord with his audience and hence what gave him agency to keep milking it.
>>279763709What is the significance of her getting a bruise? Will Kazuya carry her?
>>279750557>Reiji lets his waifu whore outK, B, C.
>>279749954Probabilities of heart failure after a rough prone bone session?
>>279793020Good point, he can't responsibly choose a defect when he has a legacy to uphold.
How many chapters until total Kazuya's victory?
>>279793732I made it the fuck up.
>>279793759The goal is to have more chapters than One Piece so it depends on if that thing keeps going.
>>279782509Poor guy. Find you a bitch that appreciates Dreamcast merch.
Man speed reading this thread has been hilarious. The amount of cope and seethe is fantastic.
>>279793759about tree eighdy
>>279791955>The day Kazuya touches another womanUnsurprisingly, the only girl he has no qualms putting his hands on is Mini.
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>>279792683>deconstructionNo, Kazuya was based on Reiji, at least at first, only later Reiji turned him into an irredeemable loser.
>>279794645More like Chizuru is the only one he isn't able to. Because he remembers that if he as much as touches her she'll slap/hit/kick him
Did Reiji move Sumi to the spin-off because he went "oh shit, I forgot to write red flags for her"?
>>279794645He didn't see her as a girl
>>279794951He can touch her as long as he isnt sperging
>>279794924So he is a flawless self insert for the author after all.
>>279795074Sumi said "this story isn't progressing anytime soon" and got the fuck outta there.
Itโd never happen but Iโd want Kazuya to have some pity/comfort sex with Mini. Wingwomen falling in love with the guy theyโre supposed to help is undeniably a top three trope in romance. Unfortunately I already see them running into each other and Chizuru being in pain so Kazuya carries her home while going โzomg her boobs are on my back?!โ while he immediately gains some false hope about there still being a chance she un-rejects him.
>>279792632How true is this?
>>279795617Anything that says women want X is wrong because they are insane and can't even make up their own mind, let alone agree for long enough to create a consensus among peers.
>>279795609Is that something that could even be done where ever the fuck this is being published?
>past tense narration
>Kazuya is just remember what lead to their wedding
>>279797264Yeah Umiโs wedding.
>>279797325I really don't think Kazuya is going to marry Umi.
>>279795834I mean if they let 218 slide then I guess anything but full on hentai is fine
>>279797336Unless heโs a trap (female). You know how it is with those actors they all lead dishonest lives.
>>279797448WSM also serialized Domestic Girlfriend, which has basically pornwha levels of explicitly. Gachiakuta had explicit, though not graphic, pedophilia
It's a magazine with more mature audience
>>279797336>>279797460Umi has been playing the long game. Pretending trying to get closer to Chizuru to jump on Kazuya at the right moment
>>279797264It was debunkwd a lot of time ago that shit about future kazuya
>>279765160>main girl does compensated dating>no sex with the mc but doesn't have sex with other men either>no mention of a previous sexual partnerIt's obvious he'll get the girl in the end. This manga is too childish and unrealistic to end with her rejecting him permanently.
>>279798017It's been rebunked.
>>279798017>It was debunkwdMore like the author explicitly saying it was for narration purposes
Though it's interesting seeing it reappear after so long
>>279798035I'd say it's childish and unrealistic to expect him to throw away all the time and effort spent pushing this where he wants it to go.
It's like reading a rape doujin and complaining about the rape.
>>279798081Yeah, but my point was that the tone of this manga doesn't give room for a doomer/redpill/tragic ending. All this author has done is shamelessly drag this shit out to keep selling copies, but at the end of the day it's an infantile and dumb romcom like any other.
>>279795834>DnK>Kimimachi>Fuuka>HitmanThe magazine has MCs who had lost their virginity with other girls not named the FMC and even ended with a used goods FeMC.
>>279793759100 at minimum.
At this point it's gonna be a phyrric victory
>>279792632Well yes but actually no
If you don't fight for them they'll get mad at you for not doing so and say you should've, but if you do, then you are a creep and say hello to sexual harassment charges
>>279798148If Kazuya ends with another girl not named Chizuru, it's already a redpill about not trying hard, and if Ruka is the endgame, it already becomes a downer.
The thing that still resonates with me is what that japanon said about some mangaka resonating with the national mood, and said mood currently beijg nihilistic and bleak. MHA and SnK had a bleak and mean-spirited end in hindsight because of such nihilistic collective mind.
In romance, that way to show nihilism is by making MC either end single, bitter and as a hollow husk/end with a girl different from what he wanted and having to learn to get content with that or make MC win the FeMC, but in the process he loses everything he had before except maybe one friend.
Reiji already showed since AKB he shares the same nihilistic mindset. (Kanokari is in hindsight nihilistic. Kazuya is a natural nihilist, easy to fall into depression, has suicidal thoughts sometimes, and take always the worst decisions, starting with having rented Chizuru to run away from facing Mami, and he knows he has someone he can fall back and settle down with if he realizes nothing else can be done, even if for him, that means a defeat).
80s series can afford with being more upbeat because Japan was on a fucking frenzy.
>>279798363The author has been pushing never give up for almost 400 chapters and you expect him to switch to nihilism?
>>279798454>Kazuya gives up on Chizuru after rejection>lies in his bed listless>suddenly a message from Umi>"Hey dude, what's up? Wanna hang out?">they meet up>Umi introduces him to some girls>helps him score>Kazuya gains confidence and experience and turns his life aroundIn a different universe, Kanokari has already ended like this.
>>279798454The author is showing the toxic side never giving up, because said behavior is the reason this series is stuck in the limbo and the reason Kazuya will never get anything more than being chased by a menhera underage.
Ironically, this is a manga that punishes stubborness and reckless abandon behavior and where you'll end winning by ironically giving up, broad your range of possibilities and stop pushing your luck.
>>279798563Yeah this is very toxic
>>279764151If you don't like rape that's fine but you knew what the fuck you were getting into.
>>279798363>In a moment of explosive argument between the two, Mizuhara barks "It was nothing but a rental relationship">Kazuya loses conscience>He wakes up in the hospital, having forgotten all about Mizuhara
>>279798583Kazuya didn't get the morning glory he wanted. Consider that.
Literally the Linkin Park song.
>>279798628He's been watering the same seed for the entire story.
>>279798628So Kazuya has to mean to be content with what he can achieve.
Should be play it safe and Marry Mami-chanbfor the sake of the two families and Mami's sake?
Abandon "true love" which is to hard to get for an unkwown outcome or a wife he won't love and two kids at most?
Well that's kinda bleak but that's life.
>>279798695>ignore never give up and give up>>279765818
>>279798723Another case of never giving up taking you to nowhere is Chizuru.
Did she get roles other than small theater gigs by not giving up? No
Did her grandpa survive by not giving up in going upstairs a shrine 100 times? No.
The irony here is that the ones who are getting better deals are those who are actually not trying hard and not making of what they want a life or death situation (Sasapai got a gf by ironically just being himself, Sumi is improving because she's not making it a thing she should obsess with, Mini has her life put together, Kuri got another circle thanks to not trying that hard).
>>279798363>Reiji already showed since AKB he shares the same nihilistic mindsetYeah, because he was the artist of that manga and had to show what the writer wanted anon
>>279798035>It's obvious he'll get the girl in the end.The question is which girl? Author has thrown enough hints around that any of the girls stand an equal chance on their own. Main heroines have lost before.
>>279798816She did what her grandpa said and she got her movie. Look no offense unintended but you are not qualified to talk about this story being as retarded as you are.
>>279798889Bro she said she wanted to be an actress like her grandma, she hasn't done anything remotely big yet
>>279798841>Author has thrown enough hints around that any of the girls stand an equal chance on their own.Not at all, which is one of the reason the series didn't perform as well as other harems. Chizuru has been the obvious winner since the very start, with no competition from others. Ironically it's only now that the others might seemingly have a slight chance (there's absolutely no way Reiji isn't going to fix things in time for the anime end)
>>279785347>it would be in bad faith and a disrespect with kazuya's emotions if she started dating him without properly falling in love with himthat's just an excuse
the real problem is that this bitch just keeps taking and taking and taking without giving anything back, and she knows it
she feels bad about giving nothing back, but also doesn't have it in her to get herself together and reciprocate. she keeps making this about her, when it really isn't; she's a self-absorbed narcissist, or in short a woman
Mini should comfort her master.
>>279798841Kazuya will end up working for a movie company and will push Chizuru into a regular actress spot for supporting roles in various movies
>>279798826>Yeah, because he was the artist of that manga and had to show what the writer wanted anonHad a very important input, specifically the failed romance part (give up your crush for her dreams, get content with those who stuck by your side whether you wanted it or not) and final chapters.
>>279798981You still need to send me the money for that bridge you bought.
>>279798934>there's absolutely no way Reiji isn't going to fix things in time for the anime endThen in january or by the end of the 2026 winter season. Kanokari S4 has 2 split cours, so the misery can be extended.
Things have to get waaay worse before they get better.
>>279798955Kazuya will end inheriting the sake store and end with another girl.
Reiwa manga can't allow fully happy endings, they all have to have some nihilistic components
>>279798563>Kazuya will never get anything more than being chased by a menhera underagethat's already a lot
>>279799034There again, when you can't defend your PoV, you resort to insults.
Had enough with your bs.
>>279799029As long as he doesn't end up with any of those whores (no Zuru, no Mami, no Ruka, no e-thot snake Yaemori) it's good enough
>>279799099>pigeon gets mad no one wants to play chessGunna cry?
>>279799029Well guess that sucks enough, but if he has sex with Mizuhara on the side it's not completely doomed ending
>Man has to resort to sexing an extremely damaged woman to not be completely miserableActually dire ending
>>279799124It has to be one of those bitches by default.
But imagine if Sumi swoops in a W, or if Kazuya instead ends with, ironically, Chizuru's acting rival.
Inb4 Kazuya rejects sex with Chizuru and the date ends with Kazuya jumping to any conclusion and treating her as just a rental girlfriend. Imagine the fatal blow to her beliefs. The person that would even pull a massacre for her just seeing her as how she "is" and stopping caring.
Kazuya overwatered the flower and was drowning it, that's the point of current kanokari, now it's time to make her ask and be thirsty for water.
>>279799284You are just so sad and broken that you can't even handle anything positive.
>>279799188No, the big issue with Kazuya is his immaturity and inabibilty to control his emotions
He has made good progress in this aspect, it's not worth it if he ends with those trash people.
Just attract decent people and keep Sumi as good friend( not that she needs him that much anyway, she's good enough with her own circle and her shota)
Mizuhara has lotta progress to do, maybe she can ask for help from Kazuya or get inspired and work it out, but as long as she seeks that shit acting star goal she ain't going nowhere
>>279799301I am realistic (realized amidst a very dark phase i should stop trying so hard to get results and just let things happen) and just let life bring the opportunities i want to take, and this manga has to keep spinning its wheels, so you can't discard that scenario as an excuse to keep the story going.
Kazuya needs to learn to just let things happen instead of forcing them to happen
>>279799754>I am realistic about how much of a loser I am
>>279799723His stubborness is his worst trait honestly speaking. It actually makes him delusional.
What Kazuya should learn more than keeping his emotions in check is that giving up and just let things happen is not a bad thing per se. It would make him look at things more objectively.
If Kazuya failed with the date, it was because of being hardheaded and not listening to what Mini and others said, he was dead set into whiteknighting and showing himself as the best boyfriend, and only began to consider Mini's words after being struck with reality.
Still i think that, aside of his overflowing emotions and toxic willpower, he should keep his mouth shut and his impulses in check too. Telling Mini it didn't work will bite him in the ass.
>>279799828Listening to Mini has been the one mistake that he has repeated over and over this arc.
>>279799284>Chizuru has no choice but to feed from Kazuya's loveThat is the most distateful thing I've read in this thread
>>279799807Bruh, my best results happened because i didn't try hard. The most stable job i had and the one i learned the most was because a friend asked me if i wanted to help them and introduced me to his boss (now another friend of mine), not because i pushed hard with job hunting.
You better wonder why the "hard work hardly works" trope exists.
>>279799874Effort doesn't matter is exactly what a loser would say, thank you for proving my point.
>>279799828Being stubborn isnt a problem as long as you're not setting up impossible expectations.
>>279799849Mini has enabled Bakazuya for failure and cheap thrills, he has to acknowledge her toxicity and sever ties with that whores.
As another Anon said the revealing videos on YouTube are red flags enough to be careful of her intentions
>>279799954>as long as you're not setting up impossible expectationsKazuya set himself up to impossible expectations, held up onto them and got rightfully disappointed.
>Mini has enabled Bakazuya for failure and cheap thrills, he has to acknowledge her toxicity and sever ties with that whores.That after she found out he's too delusional to ever listen to reasons. Remember that talk at the bar where Mini threw those trvth nvkes about Chizuru, Kazuya was even ready to lash out at her for calling Chizuru sneaky, but Mini read him like an open book and threw more grvtal facts.
>>279799908Touch grass.
You don't have to give your 100% into something, except when doing what brings you food to the table few days before the deadline or wanting to better yourself for your own self, not to win points with a stacy.
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>>279800221>loser is mad he is a loser
>>279800389Said the loser who throws insults when he can't defend his PoV.
Shows how right i am.
>>279800085>Mini make Kazuya drunk to lash out at his crush without restreintSounds sneaky already, so much for a person that claims to have your best interests at heart
>muhh unreasonable white knight, gotta impair him with boozeWhat is he, a dumb bitch?
>>279800411Is that your final loser cope?
>>279800466>Using elitist anime to keep throwing insults.Sure underage, at least i'm not a delusional bum.
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>>279800583Elitist? It's dumb as shit, you are just insecure.
>>279800532Might Guy ans Rock Lee are the poster dad and child of hardworkers that reached nowhere and almost ended crippled or dead for trying too hard.
Just saying.
>>279800741Here is a picture of me touching grass.
>>279800720The author can set it up so that only sadists are successful, that doesn't really mean anything.
>>279800848From the same manga.
Naruto only started to reach success in his life when he stopped to push his luck and try hard, but instead reached an inner state of peace, reconciled himself with his inner self and came honest on why he wanted to save Sasuke and become Hokage and talk no jutsu'ing Kurama into becoming his ally, that spared him from having to try harder
>>279801015>when he stopped to push his luck and try hardAre you trying to say the opposite of what you said?
But like I said this doesn't really matter, if anything it's just showing a problem with the author.
>>279801086nta but he's been giving you examples from real life and fiction, and so far all you've done is respond with
>neener i don't hear you!! i'm right you're wrongso i judge that you lost this discussion and the other anon won