Thread 279921348

>most forced and implied white rice romance in the past decade of major shonen
>their relationship is still up to debate according to the community to the point where the mangaka has to point out the obvious in his own words almost a year after the ending
I've never seen a fandom this retarded in my entire life.

denial is why people believe the earth is flat

>>279921348 (OP)
>I've never seen a fandom this retarded in my entire life.
you must be new

maybe shounen authors should stop being so terrified of drawing characters kissing

>>279921348 (OP)
If he was so worried about people misunderstanding his intentions, he should've made them crystal clear.

>>279921632
First 10 seconds of her introduction for what is a typical shonen made it pretty crystal clear to me

>>279921348 (OP)
maybe just fucking DRAW THEM TOGETHER???? Hori's a hack not worth a fuck

>>279921348 (OP)
Why do their faces look like that? Why do they have snouts?
They look goddamn retarded.

>>279921911
he gets more money by never making it conclusive

>>279921911
>Attracted the fujo audience early by making the first major relationship to the MC being the bully with a hate boner for him.
>Beta nip culture makes Hori want to be polite and not disappoint parts of the manga's fanbase.
>Manga blows the fuck up, putting further pressure not to fuck up on Hori.
>Introduce 8 billion characters, constantly juggle the ridiculous character bloat within the story.
>Constantly busy with developing the actual plot since it isn't a rom com.
>Get to the ending and realize you fucked up and completely forgot to actually draw the MC getting with the girl he likes in a clear way. Try to do damage control with extra chapters but it still gives rabid fujos enough of a foothold to endlessly shit up the community with shipping drama.
This is why every mangaka should be obligated to follow Ishida's example and just draw their characters fucking to shut up shipperfaggots.

>>279921348 (OP)
>forced
If anything keeping them apart for 95% of the manga was forced. Fujobux were too strong.

>>279921414
denial is why people believe the earth is round

>>279921348 (OP)
their snouts always piss me off

>>279921348 (OP)
Here's his translated interview answers from new art exhibition pamphlet.

>Question: Chapter 431 focuses on Deku and Ochako. In My Hero Academia, there wasn't much focus on romance, was there any reason for that?

>Horikoshi: Instead of wanting to portray romance in the story, I just wanted to show the contrast between Ochako and Toga with their views on love. Since romance is a very strong stimulus, as soon as you include it into the story, that's all anyone is going to talk about, so I deliberately avoided adding it to the story.

>However, since the setting of the series is at school after all, it would be rather dishonest to completely ignore romance, so it was pretty hard to think of a balance.

>Thankfully, since Deku was always doing other things, he was unaware of any romantic feelings, and it turned out to be a good thing for me [since Horikoshi didn't want to include romance in the main plot].

>However, when Chapter 394 came around, the topics [discussed by Toga and Ochako] did touch upon that stimulus called love, so I knew that it would be strange to not follow up on that point later in the story, which is why I chose to write about it.

>>279922567
>I never thought that romance would go well with the theme of the story of My Hero Academia, which is "to save and be saved," nor would it make sense to include it in "the story of how we all became Heroes." So that's why I decided to touch upon it in an epilogue, like a postscript of sorts.

>However, rather than depicting romance itself, I wanted to depict love in a form as part of something even greater, but I wonder how it turned out?

The final line is

>>279922611
Forgot to add

The untranslated final line is pretty vague and can have different intrepretation.

>>279921348 (OP)
Nobod cares.

Didn't he end up as a pizza delivery boy?

>>279922195
>2025
>shippers still can't get along
we're all in the same boat, guys. don't strongarm each other into shipping the same thing. and definitely don't strongarm the author himself

I really like My Hero Academia. I'm not ashamed

I for one think not every shonen needs to end with the main character having a son that is a tiny version of hiself.

>>279921348 (OP)
The funniest part is that hori clearly doesn't give a fuck which makes me wonder if the editors forced the "hints". It also doesn't make sense considering cape shit and especially spider man which he is so fond of has romance sub plots.

>>279923098
Overall I liked it but is not that I have very strong feels about it.
My main issue is that it felt kind of "short" to be such a big thing.

May be its just other big manga were too big and too long. But BNHA really felt short to me. Like it was barelly a few arcs and was already over. Didn't feel almost eternal like other big battle manga which you pretty much lived your life with them.

>>279923048
Shippers are the most deranged of any parts of a fanbase

>>279921414
fpbp

>>279921348 (OP)
Imagine being so desperate for two 2D drawings to have a romance lol

>>279921348 (OP)
>Those profiles
I thought my little pony was banned in /a/

>>279921348 (OP)
>reading battle shit from Jump for romance

>>279921414
I thought denial was a river in egypt

>>279923348
It's true, kek

>Not a kiss, not even a hug, and fucking handshake
What a legit shit romance side plot.
They could have at least been shown holding hands for fuck sakes.

>>279921348 (OP)
Overall shonentards tend to treat art as databook. So everything needs to be explained in details otherwise they lose their minds.

>>279921348 (OP)
At least we can all agree Ochaco is hot. I hope that this manga's legacy is more anime girls with bodies like Ochaco.

>>279924403
The only reason I want a sequel is so we can have a MILF Ochaco who had several kids and has considerable more chubb while still being sexy.
One of the kids of course being a reincarnated Toga, that's a given.

>>279921348 (OP)
You can really see the yugioh influence in his work.

>>279921348 (OP)
>>their relationship is still up to debate according to the community to the point where the mangaka has to point out the obvious in his own words almost a year after the ending
The author's statement about Izuocha being endgame or not, although posted only now, was made before the release of the last volume.

>>279924546
his lineart always looks so lively

>>279924546
All of that happens, however...Deku is not the father

>>279921348 (OP)
Ichigo and the orange bitch literally popped out kids and rukiafags still think rukia can win, the average manga reader has no braincells and can't parse romance

>>279924555
That looks leagues more romantic though. Maybe the anime will pick up the slack (lol).

>>279921348 (OP)
>Manga about how being a hero should be more than status, power and fame
WHY DIDN'T THE MC END UP POWERFUL AND FAMOUS MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE? TRAAASH
>Manga clearly shows that the MC and the main girl like each other and want to start a relationship
NO KISS? NO MARRIAGE? THE MC IS DEFINITELY A LOSER KEK!

I feel bad for Horikoshi.

>>279924941
Oh, you suppose that was laying it on too thick? Have a look at one of the other ones.

>>279924708
>They dated off screen
>But it didn't work out
Is there a more bullshit trope?
People really fucking hate this and yet hack authors continue to do it.

>>279924307
Fan wikis really ruined everything.

>>279924708
>ratatatat74
She proves women are evil and love drawing NTR.

>>279924708
Iida is a good guy and won't do something like this

>>279921348 (OP)
This is why I like saying uraraka is blacked owned just to piss off the shounen tards

>>279922195
>makes a new manga
>to shut homo shippers up, blatantly states that Kaneki 2.0 loves a flat chested tomboy
>then proceeds to give MC his own romantic interest who is as degenerate as he is
>pic related is the latest volume illustration
Ishida is based

>>279922195
>>279926445
I love Sui Ishida so much it's unreal, Choujin X is among my favorite ongoing manga right now

>>279926502
In many regards, this manga is exactly what i wanted from bnha.

>>279926558
Well it's basically a X-Men Manga but I get wanting to mix western heroes with Naruto
The problem was that MHA had so many fucking characters that they never took the time to make you care for them, then after the Liberation Army arc MHA got the sane editor as Samurai 8 who proceeded to make the Manga even worse

>>279926217
>She
no fucking way

>>279921348 (OP)
I know a lot of people hate on Hori for the ending, but I actually like it. He knows he didn't properly develop this pairing to justify them being married in the end so he didn't give us such an asspull. They are two young adults who clearly have mutual feelings, and will more than likely end up together. Maybe he doesn't want to say anything yet because the ending is still fresh, but give it some time, he may confirm that they're dating in an interview one day.

>>279925213
This was a different situation, Asuka already lost to Yubel.

>>279921348 (OP)
I don't get why Deku starts off as the kind of guy who'd have a dorky crush on a girl but Ochako is the one who catches feelings and struggles with them.

>>279926352
He is pretty much a victim in that story, Ochacho settling for him after riding the cock carousel for several years like a modern woman.

>>279926881
Im just coping that it is being saved for a future movie that takes place years later or a possible sequel.

>>279923213
because you're getting older. MHA ran for 10 years almost to the day but that was only a quarter of my life, but Bleach ran for what was a little over a third of it at the time, And other stuff almost half depending on how you look at it

>>279927110
What the hell are you talking about? Yubel is obviously the Toga of that situation. Being trapped in judai's head, after all.

>>279921414
The Earth is hollow, nigga.

>>279921531
/thread

>>279927266
Deku is gay.

>>279921348 (OP)
>their relationship is still up to debate according to the community
If you have never been in love, of course. But anyone who had even a one-sided crush, knows these two are in love and are an item after the end. You have to be incredibly obtuse or dense to deny it.
>B-but handshake
>B-but no kiss
TV has brainwashed you, I assure you, the last thing you are gonna do when you and your crush accept each other, is kiss. And if it happens, it's gonna be the awkward kiss mankind has seen. That's if both of you are in love. Grown up anon, love can be found, you just need to be a bit brave and not be afraid of getting hurt if shit goes south, you can do it.

>>279928070
Possession and reincarnation when?

>>279921348 (OP)
>where the mangaka has to point out the obvious in his own words almost a year after the ending
did he really?

>>279921348 (OP)
there is nothing implied in reality it was just to shut up shippers without shipping shit and worked like a charm.
>>279922295
7 years alone traveling from country to country with the counceling stuff.
>her body looks more slutty
>anal whore butt

>>279921348 (OP)
>>their relationship is still up to debate according to the community
"the community" in this case means a bunch of sub 100 IQ ugly whores who really want the protag to get assfucked by his childhood bully while both cry

>>279928560
>But anyone who had even a one-sided crush, knows these two are in love
And is clear you have never been in a relationship or in love.no offense mate.
Is really forced out, loves dies after a few months alone and how many years passed without seeing each other.... oh yeah 7 fucking years.
even your panel.
>Deku remembers shigaraki and his words of "do your best".
>Looks at ochaco, ochaco not even paying attention to deku or noticing him.
>From what it looks from pages she has ignored him the whole night.
how does that equal they love each other, unless mentally impaired virgin fag i don't see it.
was in love of girl it lasted around 6 months and then stopped feeling something for her.

>>279929029
Someday you'll learn about love and English grammar, anon, someday.

>>279928871
100 IQ would be genius level under current IQ standard post 2015, sadly most are retards, mentally impared, or however you want to call it.
normal IQ post 2015 is 85 to 95 currently with post 90 being genius (have you noticed how they say boruto is a genius despite he is retard 90 IQ) if you are from 1980 then i understand why you said that since the standard IQ up to then was 95 to 110.

>>279929082
someday you will get out and touch grass and learn about real world faggot.

>imagine being so mentally impaired to think that equals love.
>no hugging and kissing.
>just a weird newgen shit greeting between a fag and a woman.

>>279929199
Surprised they didn't do a fist bump or something equally gay

>>279929216
it would be gay if ochaco was doing HJ to the other guys before she did that.

>>279921348 (OP)
lol it has more implication of them getting together than ranma and akane, or even sakura and sasuke at least.
But again people are so desperate for their ships to be canon they'll take an illustration of a wedding with no story arc or anything attached or a couple getting together with a baby without never officially kissing on screen and the father leaving for years kek

>>279929199
>>279929216
>Local incel doesn't know what skinship is
lol LMAO even, no wonder Isekai romance is their standard, the complete virgin experience.

>>279921348 (OP)
Anyone who thinks this ending isn't delivering romance doesn't know shonen manga very well. Just look at cyborg 009. They didn't get a real ending until three decades after the original manga run. A decade and a half after the original author died based on his drafts.

>>279922824
>The untranslated final line is pretty vague and can have different intrepretation.
What's the line?

>>279929552
it isn't delivering that

>>279921348 (OP)
I mean, they obviously got together, no? I admit the eight-year gap is weird, but the epilogue basically flat-out stated that.

I get the implication of romance with gay things like guts and griffith or kaworu and shinji, but with straight couples it just comes across as emotionally stuck

>>279929459
are you feminist/woman or fag because is clear from your opinion you are underage, woman and fat!!.
you have seen to much faggot shit it seems and have never seen or experimented love in your life once (otherwise you will understand).
Even ranma had scenes with more skinship then grabbing hands and remember ranma and akane are 16 years, but deku and ochaco are grown fully adults so that kind of shitty ending is fagotry at next level.

>>279921348 (OP)
Why do they have snouts?

>>279929685
it didn't state shit, check last page >>279929199
and you see something weird.
>two grown adults reaching their 30s.
>don't do anything at all.
>just a weird greeting and nothing else.
let's compare that to other anime with characters from that age.... wait they all start fucking and kissing the moment they reunite again but here we don't get that.

>>279929635
Here's the line. I can't read nip though.

>恋愛というより、もっと大きな拘りでの愛に見えるよう描いたつもりですが、どうでしょうね。

>>279921348 (OP)
>point where the mangaka has to point out the obvious in his own words almost a year after the ending
didnt he give a non answer?

>>279929761
>恋愛というより、もっと大きな拘りでの愛に見えるよう描いたつもりですが、どうでしょうね。
>more then love, i wanted to show a bigger involvement that could be seen as love, what do you think?

>>279929712
>hurr u must be a woman!
And you must be a retard. There are no women on the Internet.

>>279921348 (OP)
Ochako is Toga's wife and Deku is Shiggy's husband, period. Get over it and move on.

>>279921348 (OP)
Hori doesn't like romance

>>279921348 (OP)
Ain’t no way bro be looking like a My Little Pony character

>>279926445
>>279926502
Why does Sui Ishida hate shippers so much? There has to be personal hatred among homo shippers.

>>279921348 (OP)
Neither of them are white

>>279921348 (OP)
Instead of just throwing out a panel and calling it a day, he just spoon feeds vague crap.

I swear to fucking god in 10 years from now, anything will qualify as romantic by lowering the bar little by little so often over time.

>>279931216
That's why it's white rice and not white bread, retard.

>>279923098
I used to genuinely really like the series but almost everything after Dabi's Dance was so aggressively awful that I now feel embarrassed for ever having been so invested in it.

>>279921414
denial is how Egypt thrived

>>279931206
Because he wants to do the manga his way and fujo isn't the same as actual faggotry.
But really regardless of when it's straight or homo most shippers I've seen on the internet, regardless of the piece of media, are severely mentally ill

>>279922567
>Since romance is a very strong stimulus, as soon as you include it into the story, that's all anyone is going to talk about
only if you keep blueballing the shippers. If you simply confirm a ship, people can move on. Especially if you do it early on, so that other shippers won't get the wrong idea of possible other ships.

>>279930942
was translated >>279929835
is a more proper translation then what it says in yours.

>>279921348 (OP)
He also wanted to say the distance between them didn't matter.

>>279930925
He does. Just not the kind he can talk about openly.

>>279921348 (OP)
These people have now infested Kagurabachi fandom.

>>279931271
>anything will qualify as romantic by lowering the bar little by little so often over time.
Expect that to happen in more areas than that

>>279922195
Didn't he also said that he would show Deku's dad before the manga ended?

That turned out to be complete horseshit.

I don't understand why it's so hard for you to accept Deku having a girlfriend

>>279933655
he didn't get one >>279929835

>>279931206
Ishida seems to take relationships between his characters very seriously. In choujin it's an important part of their arc, and you absolutely cannot half-ass it, so he spends time to outline and develop them all.
Right now, Ely is about to do a huge mistake because she's angry Azuma got hurt.

Palma taking a piss

>>279922195
why would they? hetshit doesn't sell
bakugou and bakudeku literally carried the franchise

>>279922195
>This is why every mangaka should be obligated to follow Ishida's example
Tanking your manga so bad that everyone regrets reading it to the point where your new series flops badly? Hori can still make money off fujoshit tears by just having Deku and Bakugou standing next to each other whereas I don't think anyone gives a fuck about TG anymore

>>279928583
This artist single-handedly saved the ending.

>>279933511
>Didn't he also said that he would show Deku's dad before the manga ended?
No?

>>279932223
>If you simply confirm a ship, people can move on.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>279933670
>Literally confirms that he did
You're retarded

>Naruto ends with the MC getting the girl and having kids.
>FMA ends with the MC getting the girl and having kids.
>Bleach ends with the MC getting the girl and having a kid.
>Demon Slayer ends with the MC getting the girl and having great-grandkids.
>Even Sky High, that MHA is a shameless rip-off of, ends with the MC getting the girl.
>MHA chooses more cockteasing despite how blatant it was.

>>279935731
You might be retarded anon

>>279935722
>did they confess?
>"use your imagination"
>is it romance?
>"it's ackshually blablabla..."

>>279935934
>did they confess
>Here's a picture of them confessing, use your imagination retard
>Is it romance
>Yes but also its something greater than that

>>279921911
Where's the Naruto and Hinata art from Kishimoto? Where's the Ichigo and Orihime art from Bleach?

>>279926217
>>279926771
Last I heard “””she””” had a penis, which combined with being korean lines up perfectly with “””her””” choice of art.

>>279935965
quite an active imagination you got there bud. good for you i guess

>>279921414
That and good ol' contrarianism.

>>279931206
>>279932223
Shippers deserve nothing

They have decent doujins (even though the best one got Deku cucked)

>>279936306
fuck no
as an AGP fag who loves the futa on male and related categories, deku's "content" is always fucking terrible. He's genuinely so much of a bitch he can't even fit well in the "getting bent over the table" role. He's such a massive faggot that he's too much of a faggot even for the hentai where he's getting fucked in the ass

he's geneuinly less of a man and more of a bitch than mother fucking shota's

>>279935868
>the female love interest has another girl on her mind while with the MC
>because of the transformation powers there's even an implication it's not her
It feels like Hori wanted to fuck over the deku self inserters

So how will they animate this scene?

>>279936436
>she looks mature and beautiful and aged gracefully
>he still looks like his chapter 1 faggot self fit with his backpack
if I didn't know the characters I'd say this looks like an age gap relationship

>>279922195
The icing on the cake is the spin off having a better cute romance that blows the main series out of the water. Everyone has to go from watching the vigs anime to the final season cluster fuck now

>>279936511
>The icing on the cake is the spin off having a better cute romance that blows the main series out of the water
You mean that age gap romance of a rapebait girl and the cuck MC?

>Everyone has to go from watching the vigs anime to the final season cluster fuck now
Nobody is watching Vigs to begin with

>>279936171
>quite an active imagination
>>279935868
Yeah over 1 million people must have imagined this page too

>>279936436
There's a non-zero chance of it getting skipped because they're already pretending it didn't happen with all the vagueness, backpedaling, and lack of content (e.g. official art) acknowledging it

>>279936306
>>279936375
>>279936412
I love how that retarded meme just exposed so many people for being obsessed with cuckshit

>>279922611
>However, rather than depicting romance itself, I wanted to depict love in a form as part of something even greater, but I wonder how it turned out?
Super friendship, author just confirmed jn his words it's not romantic

>>279936641
>>279936658

>>279936610
>age gap romance
Are you impying age gap is bad

At this point the only people arguing otherwise are shitposters and fujos

>>279929712
>ranma
>skinship
what? they never even hugged, and the lack of skinship is not a problem, its the terrible communication. The age is not an excuse after 300+ chapters, especially after tons of extremely dangerous and risky things the characters go throu.

>>279936629
>that page is a confession
enjoy your headcanons bro but you gotta accept them for what they are, headcanon

>>279936887
>drawn and written by the author
>headcanon

>>279936856
>"grok"

>>279936856
i think the point is not even if its canon or not, is the way the author made it canon.

he's here

>>279935965
>here's [thing that the author never said since he gave a non answer actually]
>>yes
>author: "rather than romance" "wanted to depict it as PART of something greater" never once says "yes" >>279930942
you are a glue eating retard

>>279936931
>bro can't read and or comprehend a post
were mhafags always this retarded?

>>279937073
>>279937112
You're not even a good shitposter

>>279937073
>h-h-he didn't say yes

>>279937205
>whole post hinges on the author confirming shit with a simple answer
>author does anything but that in reality
>>279937189
you're not even a good retard you are somehow worse and more stupid

>>279936953
>is the way the author made it canon.
Ok? What's wrong with it?

>>279937236
>whole post hinges on the author confirming shit with a simple answer
Unlike you most people can read

>>279936856
having an overactive imagination is cool and all but forcing it on others is not nice anon

>>279937236
>is so retarded that he can't infer a learned response that isn't yes or no

>>279937313
unlike you most people can understand and comprehend what they read
>>279936856
>Is it true grok?!?!?! Pls say it is!!!
holy SAD

>>279937353
Yes unlike you

>>279937341
correct, you are finally realizing how stupid you are

>>279937376
unlike me you are a retard

>>279937380
See
>>279937073
>author: "rather than romance" "wanted to depict it as PART of something greater" never once says "yes"

So you are that retarded

>>279924403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXUuogWge5Q&t=58s

>>279937407
No you are very much retarded

>>279937454
>no u
lmao
>>279937436
>faggot is not only retarded (can't read that the author wanted to depict something else than romance/romance or love weren't the focus) but also disingenuous
and here i thought you were starting to be less dumb, sad

>>279921348 (OP)
According to my research (porn) Ochaco sleeps around after the relationship with Deku didn't work out.

>>279925069
>Manga about how being a hero should be more than status, power and fame
Nobody actually believes that, least of all Horikoshi

>>279921348 (OP)
he presented a nothing burger and got the expected reaction

>>279926445
Chadshida

>>279929199
Meanwhile in Chainsaw Man the main love interest gave Denji a handjob and tons of kisses. Fujimoto might be a hack, but at least he knows teenagers are horny

>doesn't become the greatest hero
>doesn't save Shigaraki
>doesn't get the girl