Thread 279977035

>Horikoshi’s comments offer fans insight into why romance hasn’t played a larger role in the series, even as certain relationships became fan favorites. He explains that although love is a powerful emotional element, it was never central to the story’s main themes. While he acknowledges the narrative responsibility to explore the emotional groundwork laid by characters like Ochako and Toga, he answers the question many fans have with another question.
>In the interview, Horikoshi discussed how the series handled romantic elements, especially between Deku and Ochako, and clarified that romance was never meant to be a main focus of the series. However, through Ochako and Toga, Horikoshi aimed to explore different perspectives on love rather than emphasizing romance itself.
>He also noted that Deku’s unawareness of romantic cues helped him avoid traditional love storylines while still grounding the characters in emotionally impactful experiences.
>However, as the story moved toward its conclusion, Horikoshi acknowledged that love was unavoidable. Chapter #394 set the stage with Ochako and Toga’s confrontation, which focused heavily on emotional vulnerability and unspoken feelings.
> “However, rather than depicting romance itself,” he said, “I wanted to depict love in a form as part of something even greater, but I wonder how it turned out?”
>His goal was neither to confirm nor deny a romantic outcome, but rather to explore love as a broader, more aspirational force.
https://screenrant.com/mha-anime-manga-epilogue-romance-deku-ochaco-creator-comment/

KEK what a cuck

>>279977035 (OP)
Faggot mangaka + Faggot mc + Fujo audience = $$$

>>279977140
Isn't the one projecting love into two characters that were never or necessarily meant to be, and then calling out when it happens a cuck...more of a cuck? Or worse, a frustrated shipfag.

Is it really over this time?

>>279977035 (OP)
I see he learned from Kishimoto's and Kubo's mistakes.

>>279977035 (OP)
Black Clover got axed because it was too heterosexual for Shonen Jump. All the best sellers are queer-coded:
>Naruto
>Jujutsu Kaisen
>Hunter x Hunter
>My Hero Academia

>>279977035 (OP)
because nobody has any real character development in his stories, even in side story mangas (vigilantes) he forces the writer to hinder any romance or friendships or development and wrap the story up with nothing really changing

>>279977035 (OP)
>Expecting romance from a non-romance manga
You deserve this

>>279977035 (OP)
>It really was just a dab up
Holy Shit Lmao!

>>279977349
>He says this like Horitranny wasn't pushing Baku x Deku for 400+ chapters
Grim. Next time read with your eyes open, chudcel <3

>>279977035 (OP)
still better than the romance in Nardo

>>279977519
>A non-romance is better than a happily wed couple with children
The math is not mathing.

>>279977413
he left it ambiguous
you can interpret it anyway you like

>>279977633
Nardo and Sasuke got wives only for the village not to think they are gay. They are broken marriages with broken children.

>>279977722
>mhaLARD talking
Lol pot calling the kettle black

>>279977035 (OP)
his Yu-Gi-Oh influence is showing.

Should've pulled a Battle Tendency and had Deku married to Ordinary Woman at the end, like how Joseph revealed that he'd married SuzyQ out of fucking nowhere. You can even play it off as a homage to a Shonen Jump classic.

>>279977035 (OP)
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE THE MAIN CHARACTER GET A GF NOOO NOOO AFJGHJGKDGKDSGJFH YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME, HE'S.. *HUFF* HE'S GONNA DIE A VIRGIN, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN ANIME, EVERYONE IS A VIRGIN FOREVER! NOOOOOOOO!!!! NONONONONOOOOOOOOOOOOO NONONO YOU CAN'T STICK IT IN, DON'T STICK IT IN MIDORIYA, PLEASE DON'T STICK IT IN YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO NEVER HAVE AN ERECTION IN YOUR WHOLE LIFE, JUST SAY GOODBYE TO OCHAKO YOU LITTLE SHITCAKE. AREN'T YOU JUST HAPPY WITH THE ASSPATS? GOOD FUCKING JOB MIDORIYA, ISN'T THAT ENOUGH? YOU FUCKING UNGRATEFUL SHIT. LOVE IS FOR HENTAI, LOVE IS THE BARGAIN BIN SLOP WHERE OCHACO GETS RAPED BY 200 NIGGERS, DO YOU WANT THAT? DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT IN YOUR WHOLESOME MANGERINO??? DO YOU WANT OCHAKO TO GET GANGBANGED BY AN ARMY OF US MARINES, JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT LOVE? YOU SELFISH ASSHOLE, WHY DO YOU EVEN WANT TO REPRODUCE? YOU DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET, YOU WILL NEVER, EVER FIND LOVE BECAUSE YOUR SALARY IS 20000 YEN A MONTH FUCKING LOL LMAO EVEN. *MY* FUCKING SALARY IS 20000 A MONTH AND I'M WRITING THE STORY, HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY GET LAID BY PROXY LIKE THIS. FUCK NO. YOU GET NOTHING! EVERYONE DIES A VIRGIN. GOOD DAY SIR

>>279977833
Go to bed, Hori

>>279977035 (OP)
You know it's going to be like that not to make the fujoshi crowd angry. They're behind like 60 percent of the sales anon.

>>279977288
all of the most successfull stories (at least in sales) cater to the fujoshi crowd because they have the biggest spending power. It's been like that for decades

>>279977918
Does this mean Japanese manga audience = Tumblr? When you think about it, the only difference is the drawings are shit

>>279977421
Nice try but real fujos don't care if their ship is canon.

>>279977035 (OP)
>Refuses to confirm
>However, rather than depicting romance itself,” he said, “I wanted to depict love in a form as part of something even greater, but I wonder how it turned out?”

Are you retarded

>>279978079
Seethe

>>279977918
He had a fujo ship to feed (krbk) and while I consider it inferior to bkdk it would have been so easy to fluff that one up while also writing Deku and Ochako getting closer on screen instead of turning 300 chapters of the manga into the bkdk ship manifesto and tacking on 431.

>>279977288
What about Kochikame, Dragon Ball and One Piece?

>>279977803
Deku does not deserve her

>>279977035 (OP)
>Wastes the reader's time shoving useless "romantic" interactions between the MC and his designated onahole (a character who's only purpose in the story is to serve as his love interest)
>Wastes the reader's time with an awful subplot about another whore (toga) having a rivalry with the onahole over the MC's dick
>Makes one of the worst fights in the Shounen jump History (Ochako Vs Toga) were a highschool girl literally lets herself get stabbed by a sociopathic terrorist multiple times while said terrorist commits mass murder in the middle of a warzone just because she "wants to talk about love with her"
>Shoves Onahole on every single plot line involving the MC to pretend she is anything but a trophy wife for the MC
>"Ehhh... T-the story was never about love, lmao!"
Hori must be the most low T and emasculated Mangaka to ever step on the Jump
He might genuinely become the first case of a man naturally transitioning due to his body having a negative production of testosterone

Horikoshi is based and I respect him, the ending is actually cool

>>279977035 (OP)
Controversial = Shippers wanted the ending to be like their fanfic

>>279977519
Are MHAcucks the most pathetic fandom in existence?

>>279977833
>DO YOU WANT OCHAKO TO GET GANGBANGED BY AN ARMY OF US MARINES, JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT LOVE?

>>279977288
>queer

It's like you fags have never even watched an Yu-Gi-Oh before

MHA ending was good. It's open ended, big deal.

>>279977035 (OP)
Was this a good business decision for Hori? I'm not sure how shippers/fujos work, does this satisfy any of them?
>>279978446
I wish I had a designated Ochahole.

>>279977207
Yes. Shipfags project their sexual and romantic anxieties into fictional characters.

>>279978592
???

But the protagonist of Yu-Gi-Oh (Kaiba) did have a wife (Kisara)

>>279977035 (OP)
BASED

Self inserters are gonna go insane.

>>279978761
Yugi was a cuckold

>>279978446
Toga vs Ochako is baffling if love doesn't matter. What fucking similarity or parallel does Toga and Ochako have then?
If we remove the love element it should be Toga vs Bakugo. They are literally both obsessive blondes with insane bloodthirst and bullshit physicals beyond quirks. Hell they both even obsess over Deku and tried to kill him.
Literally the only diffence between Bakugo and Toga is that Bakugo got celebrated for his terrorist quirk and Toga got fucked over for her vampire one (in a world with vamp heroes).
But beyond that it seems for both their quirk fucks with their mental state, both are perfect students before Toga breaks. And both are expected to fit a role - Bakugo about being a wunderkind son and Toga for being the perfect daughter.
And considering every other fight is about some big societal issue it even works as some idea that quirk stereotyping is fucking stupid.
But nah Ochako should get stabbed so Toga convinces her to confess and then there is not even a confession.

>small
>insecure
>nonstop crybaby
The fact that the future Japanese generation consider this thing a role model must be terrifying. No wonder Johnny Somali was allowed to run amok until CHAD Korea put the boot down on him, if all of Japan’s younger men are as “manly” as Keku is

All of this would be fixed if Deku was a girl.

>>279978136
I'm, not the one setthing here tho, shipperfag

>>279978079
>fujos don't c-ACK

>>279978958
The fact that Toga and Froppy exist in-universe and Deku hasn't mating pressed both of them is far more absurd than the superpowers

you sad fucks have been completely brainwashed into thinking romance NEEDS to be in every piece of media.
Can you fags even be happy without a girlfriend?

>>279979078
Is contemporary Shonen Jump more accepting of female leads in Shonen battle manga than it used to be?

>>279978344
>Dragon Ball
Fujos loved this series, ships include Tien and Yamcha or Goku and Vegeta
>Kochikame
Has a hot tranny cop character iirc
>One Piece
There's a hot trap character and also an island full of trannies. I'm not that familiar with the fanbase but there's probably a metric fuck ton of fujo shipping considering how many male characters there are.

>>279977035 (OP)
We already knew Deku is a cuck. That's why Dekufags cope with commissioned art.

>>279979253
it's true but this is done to please gay shippers

>>279979220
Real fujos aka Japanese ones

>>279979275
Zolo is the fujo character

>>279977035 (OP)
>He explains that although love is a powerful emotional element, it was never central to the story’s main themes.
Why is this so hard for /a/cels to grasp? It boggles the mind that shounenshit threads are filled with hundreds of posts by 30+ year olds shipfagging. You guys are so hopelessly devoid of romance, it's the only thing you can think about.

>>279979253
Then literally just have Ochako decide she doesn't have time for romance and that's it.
Why do we fucking need the blushing and "Oh you like him?" repeated to us.

>>279979253
>Can you fags even be happy without a girlfriend?
That's a separate topic to what you're talking about
Not every story needs romance in it, that's all

What was the point of Ochako character if she didn't end producing children with Deku? That was like 60% of her screentime

>>279979275
it's always funny to see Americans cope about Japan acting like a pozzed slave colony of the US
They can't accept they ruined the country and like it so much exactly because they ruined it
>b-but the crossdresser is there for ANCIENT JAPANESE reasons!
>b-but it's gay for JAPANESE reasons!! Japanese buggery is le different!
>yes there's a trans flag but it's a JAPANESE trans flag!!!!
>b-but that girl is delicious chocolate not a nigger!!!!!
>okay that's an actual nigger but it's a side character!!!!
>okay the nigger is raping the heroine but rape is a bad thing here
>(Uwaaah I'm getting raped by BBC! Yamete BBC-san!)
>okay maybe it's just BLACKED but it's because of Japanese war trauma, I am not consooming American slop made by buckbroken low cost Asians no please no NOOOOOOO NOOO I HATE AMERICA I HATE MY COUNTRY WE DID NOT RUIN GRORIOUS JAPAN, I AM NOT INTO JAPAN JUST BECAUSE I CAN PRETEND I HAVE A CULTURE THROUGH ANIME NOOOO

>>279979605
don't worry, things will be fixed when China takes over
there won't be any anime then though

MHA is a love letter to American comics, I have never read American Comics but I am guessing there is no romance there either.

>>279979715
Romance between a man and a woman is problematic

>>279979746
always has been
read Rumiko Takahashi works if you want to see why

Why did Vigilantes end with the guy getting the girl but the main series didn't allow it?

>>279977140
Why americans have such a cuck fetish? It's like you desire the MC to be a cuck.

>>279979796
>Why americans have such a cuck fetish?
a century of deepthroating the jews

>>279979605
I think they are meant to be indian not black, Japan doesn't know what Black people are

>>279979885
They copy their Jazz music and hip hop as well.

>>279979605
you never heard of otoko no ko? asian trannies are kawaii, its the western ones that are disgusting men in drag
don't enforce your puritanical burger values onto Japanese Otaku media, you know nothing about our culture

also Japan is not white and never will be white, Asians are viewed very negatively by you white people still

Decuck

>>279977035 (OP)
His intentions are nice and all, but the actual result of Deku and Ochako's relationship seemed like the usual shounen story mandated token romancebait with a tacked on last minute conclusion. Courting shipperfags, cancerous as they are, by doing the usual trope scenes, they saying "ooh, it was never about that" feels disingenuous.

>>279980107
Did he ever end up becoming the greatest hero like he claimed?

Only desperately lonely losers crippled with soul crushing levels of loneliness care about shipping. People become obsessed with the things they crave yet cannot have.

>>279978081
he didn’t confirm shit

>>279977140
FPBP

>>279980222
Kinda but not really. Somewhere before the finale he then said it was actually the story how he and everyone else alongside him became the greatest hero.

Will you admit Fairy Tail was superior now?

>>279977035 (OP)
Based Hori!

>>279980440
Lol, lmao

Hetero romance is a marketing scam in battle shounen. It's never the main topic and mangaka handwave it because their only romantic experience was marriage interviews so they have zero idea of young love. Authors like Kishimoto who commit to a pairing they designed to end up together from inception are rare as hell.

>>279977140
>fpbp
Kwac

>>279980545
Fairy Tail gave you some
Mashima always gives you some, he is based

>>279980440
I was convinced there would be a big timeskip in the middle of the series, and it would end with a taller adult Deku where he would reach his prime as a hero. But I guess he reached his prime in high school.

>>279980545
Nah its just Gay Jump that is the problem, other shonen magazines are straight, Gay Jump panders only to fujos

>>279979796
I love how no one mentioned that you don't actually know if he's an Amrican or not

So wait, did they confirm or not the two were together? An older interview he seemed to confirm it. Whats going on?

>>279980636
Up to your imagination

>>279977035 (OP)
It's "funny" how a manga with a simple and straightforward story generates so many misinterpretations.

>Characters who clearly had affection for each other end up clearly expressing the affection they have for each other.
Reader 1: Bakudeku won.
Reader 2: Cuck!

>Story where all the characters who only valued power and fame got hurt or hurt others ends with the MC without power or great fame and with society less concerned with power and fame thanks to him.
Reader 1: Horikoshi betrayed the message of the manga.
Reader 2: McDonalds employee!

The "funniest" thing is that if it hadn't been published in Shonen Jump and if it hadn't sold so much, people would probably love it and praise the ending for not falling into genre clichés or fanservice.

>>279977949
No, they are fucking not, that has always been a lie. All they do is jump on shit that is already popular with other audiences and then pretend it's all about them. I still remember the interview with the Gundam guy who talked about the support of women when they almost had to cancel it, but also admitted that it was the guys spending money on gunpla who averted it. Fujos are a loud meme, the thoughts and prayers of audiences when it comes to monetary support.

>>279980695
*and by "people" I mean westerners, since the japanese loved the ending.

>>279980680
>>279980695
Its simple and straightforward? Then how's it up to interpretation? Im sorry im legitimately 86iq I was dropped on my head as a child im serieohs im slow

>Exhibition has been open for days
>Only blurry pictures from it
Japs are such cucks.

>>279980695
This. The ending is a good way to expose the people who didn't actually read the manga and are basing off their opinions of it entirely by Xitter/Reddit memes that aged like milk. These includes...
>Deku ends up sad, unhappy and lonely!
Nope, he ends up happy, smiling and surrounded by friends living his childhood dream. This is literally the final double page.
>B-but he can only become a hero again b-because they build a special suit for him!
Yep, this is the message of the story, people helping those in need.
>B-but in the end nothing changes!
Nope, thanks to Deku, society now, instead of excluding those who are different, as is literally shown in the first chapter, has now learned to include them, as is literally shown in the final chapter.
>B-but he ends up as a teacher!
Yep, and the story comes full circle. The manga is about helping/guiding the next generation, now it's Deku's turn. Also, being a teacher in Japan is a very respected profession. Especially when said school Deku works at is the superhero equivalent to Harvard.

MHA is not like Naruto. It is not about a boy who wants to become the most powerful of all to be respected. It is about a boy who is willing to sacrifice himself for others. It is about collectivism. One for all, all for one.

>>279980381
>Says that the last chapter was specifically done to focus on romance and wanted to show that their love went beyond stereotypes
>It didn't confirm anything

>>279980955
But did they end up together
>>279981038
Where did he say this exactly

>>279981145
>However, as the story moved toward its conclusion, Horikoshi acknowledged that love was unavoidable. Chapter #394 set the stage with Ochako and Toga’s confrontation, which focused heavily on emotional vulnerability and unspoken feelings. This ultimately led to the decision to follow up with Deku and Ochako in Chapter #431. Yet, instead of confirming a typical romance, Horikoshi aimed to express something broader and more complex. “However, rather than depicting romance itself,” he said, “I wanted to depict love in a form as part of something even greater

>>279981231
Then why not just outright say, "yeah theyre together thats the point" why the confusing stuff? Does he think his readers are intelligent? We arent. Most of us are brown and of the sub saharan variety. I was born white hut i may as well be brown becaude im stupid because i eas dropped on my head and I hate myself

>>279981231
>instead of confirming a typical romance, Horikoshi aimed to express something broader and more complex.
Why do you keep ignoring this part?

>>279981372
>However, rather than depicting romance itself,” he said, “I wanted to depict love in a form as part of something even greater
>greater than love
Anon..

>>279981310
Since when has any shounen mangaka put a year fucking effort into explaining why two characters got together? Why do you think it always happens off screen?

>>279977035 (OP)
He is an adult virgin and as such is mentally disabled. Stop expecting le chickens to understand calculus.

The fujos have such a stronghold on the series that Hori can't even have the MC officially hookup with the heroine or else it might negatively impact sales. How did the series attract so many fujoshitters more than normal?

>>279981515
May have something to do with the main character giving a metaphorical blowjob to his bully which simulates every BL manga in existence.

And you know Hori getting caught liking De x bakugou doujins in his twitter that one time.

>>279981576
Lol, did Hori really get caught doing that?

>>279977035 (OP)
Sure, but that kinda sucks. I think Deku not picking up on on romantic cues does make sense for his character though. I don't really understand what "explore love as a broader, more aspirational force" really means, it sounds like the kind of empty non-answer a politician gives when they know they got asked a question that exposes how they fucked up. You can't really do half assed romance wen writing a story, it might be realistic, but it's not entertaining or enjoyable for the audience. If he didn't want romance to be that big of an issue he should have went harder on making it obvious that Deku is clueless about romance and at least it could've been a funny character flaw, him just kinda having a crush on Ochako but not doing anything about is really just a waste of time on both the author's and the audience's part.

Besides, we all know Mei was the best girl for him anyway.

>>279981515
>The fujos have such a stronghold on the series that Hori can't even have the MC officially hookup with the heroine or else it might negatively impact sales
Yeah I think it's going to be fine

>>279981419
NTA but I am not sure if you're disingenuous or genuinely retarded
that's such a fucking nothing answer

>>279981671
>that's such a fucking nothing answer
So the problem isn't the answer it's that people are too delusional to accept it

>>279981419
The issue is, greater than love can mean anything. Do you know how many friendzone situations involve this for example?
>>279981454
Issue is the last bit was made for that to show their love yet they refuse to say they get together. It makes no sense.

>>279981515
>Shy twink MC
>Rowdy bully best frenemy
It's every fujoshi's wet dream dynamic.

>>279977035 (OP)
>Bakudeku shipper: if the author didn't confirm Izuocha, then Bakugou is Deku's official boyfriend.

>Togachako shipper: if the author didn't confirm Izuocha, then Ochako is a lesbian and loves Toga.

>Cuck fetishist: if the author didn't confirm Izuocha, then Decuck is real.

This is what happens when you let adults consume children's material.

>>279981707
Its not an answer because its not a direct confirmation. Here's how fiction and especially Japanese fiction works. Unless its directly shown or said by the series or creator its not true when it comes to romance. Leaving things up in the air like this does exactly that. Yes, you could easily read it as him saying they got together, and its certainly his intention, but the fact he refused to just directly say so is telling. Its not some deep sentence its just him not wanting to confirm the couple time was taken out of the series to focus on and a bonus ending was made for. Thats the issue. There cant be any room left for doubt. Even kishimoto understood this and made a whole fucking movie about his shitty forced romance and gave them kids. Hori couldn't simply say "yeah theyre together"?

Explain why

>>279980745
He shook her hand

>>279977035 (OP)
>shippers are faggots
>did not cave to them

BASED!!

Hori is a hero. He knows shippers are cancer, and can ruin a series with their autism like it did with Naruto and Bleach. As a classic shipper, I never threaten people online over it. Its already fucking cringe, and lacking self awareness of that is a red flag. Obsessives who flag waves their favorite ships and threaten creators over them deserve misery and the metaphorical rope.

>>279981776
But thats the case. Why didn't he outright confirm it if it wasn't? Other mangaka who focused even less on romance did. Why couldn't he?

>>279981842
The largest amount of shippers were the gay and lesbian ones the ones who actually harassed hori. HetShippers were cringe too but all this did was give the worst of them more ammo. Its caving if anything. He should've said "no one got together" fullstop. Hes a coward

>>279981729
>Issue is the last bit was made for that to show their love yet they refuse to say they get together
WE LITERALLY SAW THEM GET TOGETHER IN THE FINAL PAGE OF THE MANGA

>>279981856
>Why didn't he outright confirm it if it wasn't?
Because he already did it in the manga retard

>>279981966
>>279981998
Seeing as all the comments on Nip side are clowning on him for the answer and treat it as him backing out of Izuocha, pretty sure it got retroactively decanonized and 431 is now about "living freely for yourself, the way you want" or whatever, with Hori pretending that was the intention from the get go. "Ochaco always liked him romantically but romnce had no place in MHA's story and Deku was oblivious to it, it's open ended and you can imagine whatever the fuck you want please stop askig"
Which is a total horseshit but I enjoy the shitflinging more than I care about the ship. Hori was def planning a romantic ending for years but couldn't handle the backlash at all

>>279981832
You might be retarded anon

>>279982025
>Seeing as all the comments
You are literally quoting comments are Nip fujos

Hori knows that confirming their ship would start a twitter civil war

>>279981856
Why would he need it? Why does everything need to be strictly explained? It's a manga not a Wikipedia page. Children understand this.

>>279982025
This just one random comment from a retard. The funniest thing about this is that Hori decomfirmed bkdk hard yet they're going after izoucha as if that changes anything? How the fuck can you misinterpreted something this simple?

>>279980695
>with society less concerned with power and fame thanks to him.
Where was this shown. Statues, news and merch was still everywhere. Just not of him.

KEK ME UP
KEK ME UP INSIDE
I CAN'T WAKE UP
KEK ME UP INSIDE
SAVE MEEEE
SAVE ME FROM THIS DOG
SHIT
MAN
GA

Do you ever think that blackies actually like Deku, or they actually used to liked Deku?

>>279982027
>>279982069
>>279982089
>>279982126
"Rather than romance" romantic love is the greatest kind of love beyond paternal and filial love. With that he outright said it wasn't romantic love. How does that equal them being together

Amazing cope from Izuochabros, it's funny to see what they cling to when other series just confirm stuff without ambiguity

>>279982256
Gee anon I wonder what's greater than romantic love

>>279982310
Platonic love
Family love

>>279982300
>Horikoshi has talked more about Izoucha than Kishimoto has ever talked about Naruhina

>>279977288
>Black Clover got axed
WHAT THE FUCK?! WHEN?! WHY?!

>>279981856
>There are countless scenes showing that the characters have feelings for each other
>The female character's arc is entirely about this feeling
>The penultimate chapter and the epilogue are focused precisely on the relationship between the two
>There are no love rivals at all

(YOU): I need to see them getting married, kissing, having sex, having children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren and dying next to each other to be sure that they like each other. Please Horikoshi, do as Dragon Ball, Naruto, Bleach, Shaman King, Love Hina, Rurouni Kenshin, FMA and all the other thousands of shonen have already done. I DON'T WANT CREATIVITY, I DON'T WANT EMOTION, I DON'T WANT TO USE MY IMAGINATION, I WANT CONFIRMATION! GIVE IT TO ME! I BEG YOU! PLEEEEAAASE!

Only reason I'm looking forward to One Piece is to see if Oda decides to go for the good and classic "and they fucked" or the current faggottery of denying ships for the sole purpose of subverting expectations, any author that does this is a pussy ass faggot.

>>279982256
>" romantic love is the greatest kind of love beyond paternal and filial love
Meaning their love is greater than that. Izoucha couldn't be more canon than ever before

>Nooooo, there is no room for romance in a high school setting and especially not in the aged up epilogue
>He must forever stay a passive loner, who at best receives shit from others, never proactively changing his own fate!!!

>>279979220
muttmerican trannies wnb nipponjin fujos

>>279982254
I don't know, but I could see introverted black nerds liking Deku and maybe he's popular with a subset of black girls/fujos. But not nearly as popular as other Shonen battle manga protagonists.

>>279982300
Hinata crying at seeing Naruto go prematurely bald.

I, Izzku Midoriya best known as DEKEK, jobber of BOKU NO HERO ACADEMIA , humbly kneel to:

To Mirio Togata , The number one hero and the perfect heir to All Might's ONE FOR ALL, which I stole and wasted, I am truly sorry.

To Kacchan, who humiliated me in front of my friends, crush and the entire world basically, and rightfully deserves to breed the girl I had a crush on.

To Ochako Uraraka, who I broke the heart and almost turned into a lesbian due to my pathetic cuckold posture, I am sorry and I'm glad Kacchan can be the man I am not.

To the people of japan, who I left homeless, injured or killed by sloppily using ONE FOR ALL, a power which I did not deserve nor could ever use well.

To my mother, who I disappointed by being born a quirk-less failure, being gifted the strongest quirk and managing to lose it anyway, I'm sorry for being born.

To All Might, who I lied to in order to get a quirk I did not deserve, I am truly sorry for wasting your powers.

To all my classmates, who brought pride to U.A with their legendary achievements that I will never be able to replicate because I am too weak.

>>279982619
Deku is massively popular on a certain female age demographic. Hori managed to capture a massive amount of people:
>sexy JKs for teen and adult males
>Endeavor and other bara for women and fags
>sexy hags for children, teen and adult males
>cute boys for teen girls, fujos and fags
Every manga has this but the sheer amount of MHA characters and the balance between those categories sold the manga a lot imo

>>279977035 (OP)
>love was never a major theme in BnH
NO SHIT. Don't expect romance from Jump's battle shit.

>>279979275
>but there's probably a metric fuck ton of fujo shipping considering how many male characters there are.
You would be right, Zosan raised a whole generation of BL mangakas and Toei knew this, since they added two almost kiss filler in the anime.

>>279982434
>>279982256
Why does he say "rather than"

>>279982310
>I wonder what's greater than romantic love
Friendship! *puts out hand for high five*

>>279977349
>>279979253
>>279980545
>>279982770
cope cuckolds
NOT MY MC!

Kinda get Hori though. Just look at naruto threads filled with Raikage posts and Sakurafag tears, or Ichiruki fags completely destroyed any trace of Bleach discussion and don't even make me start with Asuka and Kensuke

>romance was never meant to be a main focus of the series
And why did he introduce classic romance elements in the first place then?
Why waste time on that subplot at all when he never really intended it to go anywhere?

Horikoshi's last line in the answer to the question is extremely philosophical and honestly does leave room for interpretation

He writes 恋愛というより、もっと大きな拘りでの愛に見えるよう描いたつもりですが、どうでしょうね。

Its moreso than romance, he wanted to depict a love that was part of a bigger picture. I read it as it being tied to what Toga says in Chapter 394, of being able to live and love the way she wants.

It also ties into Chapter 431 where she tells Ochako to live the way she loves to live.

It is an extension of Toga's message of love through Ochako that is conveyed to the audience, that you should live and love the way YOU, the reader, want to.

The theme of 431 is both Deku and Ochaco both being too focused on their responsibilities and not really "living". Both Bakugou and Toga help Deku and Ochaco realize that its okay to live how you want to and that you can be with the person you love freely

The answer isn't "they lived happily ever after"

Its up to you what happens. Thats the point. Do you want them together? Thats fine. Do you want him with bakugo? Thats fine. Do you want him as a cuck? Thats fine. Its about doing what you yourself want.
So yes bakudeku, izucuck, and izucho are all as canon as you want them to be. As long as you love posting about it

>>279982960
It is extremely obvious Hori has a humiliation fetish

>>279982973
>Its up to you what happens. Thats the point. Do you want them together? Thats fine. Do you want him with bakugo? Thats fine. Do you want him as a cuck? Thats fine. Its about doing what you yourself want.

>>279978958
the best part is that not only was this fight dumb, it ended up being entirely pointless because Ochacuck didn't do anything afterwards. Deku is honestly better off without her

>>279977949
lol in what fucking world?
Fujos have been proven many times as never buying or supporting shit. In fact, fujos are notorious for only buying fanmade merch amongst each other so they hardly ever contribute in supporting their favorite series.

>>279982864
Man, Yusuke was such a good MC. Shame modern ones can't compare.

>>279981663
that crush from Deku's side still came out of nowhere at the very end. It would've been better if he hadn't reached out to her.


And yes, Hatsume was better

>>279983193
The tell me what he meant

Goku didn't become a global icon until he became a dad

>>279977035 (OP)
Since the manga is not about romance, but rather about "helping and being helped", there is no reason to confirm anything. It's up to you to read between the lines. And holy shit, how easy is it to do that. That's why I don't understand all this "controversy". Have shonen readers become more stupid or what?

>>279983467
Doesn't mean there needs to be romance then. Just that Deku needed to pass on his genes.

>>279982864
Imagine having to jump through hoops and gymnastics to prove your MC isnt a lonely virgin because your mangaka is this spineless. Couldnt be me.

>>279982973
So basically it's Hideaki Anno's message in EoE but of course braindead shippers refuse to accept anything short of a confirmation.

HERE IS WHAT HERO SAID A DIRECT TRANSLATION
"I never thought that romance would go well with the theme of the story of My Hero Academia, which is "to save and be saved," nor would it make sense to include it in "the story of how we all became Heroes." So that's why I decided to touch upon it in an epilogue, like a postscript of sorts."

The final chapter was a postscript about romance.

>>279983665
So tell me anon. Do they get together or no. Tell us if youre so smarf

What a faggot. No wonder the Japanese are dying out.

>>279983665
Tell us the truth then.

Don't really understand why people expected romance in a hero story intended for children

>>279982770
Except UU

>>279984227
Because I cant have a romance with you online or irl. I need to cope somehow.

>>279977288
I'm not sure if I'd call them queer-coded when the underlying homoeroticism is usually unintentional.
But I agree with the general concept of what you're saying.

>>279983749
>>279984112
...You completely missed my point, niggers. It doesn't need to be confirmed. The point is they have options to explore avenues to happiness; or in other words it doesn't necessarily have to be with each other. Lemme guess, you think every character is obligated to romance and marry the first girl he ever interacts with?

>>279983821
Dw this will be fixed when anime becomes Muslim

>>279977035 (OP)
>but I wonder how it turned out?”
You made Deku a pussy ass bitch cuck.

>>279984529
No. But when its built up in the story and the epilogue involves it there should be better payoff. Like bakugo ending up with deku which is a better ship.

>>279977035 (OP)
If Horikoshi refuses to confirm or deny anything, then all interpretations are equally valid.
As such, I will choose the worst possible interpretation, which is that Deku and Ochako do become an official couple and get married, but she constantly cheats on him and he ends up raising her mutie bastard baby like the cuck he is.

>>279984529
He belongs with bakugo. Thats the problem. Instead of just doing what everyone wants he chickens out because hes afraid of dude bros and trannies

>>279984433
>usually unintentional.
This makes it so funny though
JJK was actually fucking hysterical with this shit

>>279982973
what a non answer
>Its moreso than romance, he wanted to depict a love that was part of a bigger picture
if that is what he wanted, he did a shit job. A really shit job
There were clear romance beats in the story, hand waved away at the end and not concluded.
This is just him trying to bullshit his way out of this with the "symbolism" shit because he clearly has had enough with this bs

>>279982973
>>279984756
>More than a romance
WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN

>>279984529
It wasn't confirmed and was explicitly denied. Its because he had no intention of them being together and the ending hammers it home. When not talking about romance it was SPECIFICALLY about them. He never went back on what's there for bakudeku and the messaging there shows theyre his intended couple.

>>279984820
I dunno
you can make a story about the concept of love
more philosophical, exploring love, telling a story about something more than just two people falling in love. Explore the different ways people fall into relationships.

that would make the story about love, but be more than just a romance story

BNHA is not even close to being this kind of story

Bakudeku won btw

>>279980579
It's a japanese product. Their prime is high school, after that is slave grinding in the machine to maintain the elites lifestyles.

>>279984820
It's ambiguous which means it's philosophical and definitely not a cop out.

>>279985291
yeah

you guys need to take a long look into the mirror and reassess your lives

>>279985291
shoudlve just confirmed bakudeku

looking down on people at your same level
the classic

>>279982864
I always thought Yu Yu Hakusho wasn't that amazing of a manga but I can see why it was popular with both men and women. Yusuke was written like a shoujo male lead, with the hair down/hair up contrast and him basically being a "lover boy".

>>279978446
>>279978958
The thread was saved by these posts.

>>279985316
Is that sarcasm not him and gave diagnosed autism

>>279982864
Then Togashi went on and decided that gay shotas were better

>>279977035 (OP)
>love was never a major theme in BnH
Only a retard would think it was. Guys arent owed sex

>>279979796
its projection. they want a hero thats relatable

>>279977035 (OP)
Link the translation instead of an arcticle retard.
https://nitter.poast.org/aitaikimochi/status/1937112912591724996

>>279985593
>gay shotas
Gon CANONICALLY fucks cougars.

>>279985614
I am. From. You

>>279985718
>translation is filled with people coping for izuchoko or bakudeku
>all are american
Wow

>>279985937
>bakudeku
>Cope
He essentially confirms its canon

>>279985524
yeah it is

>>279986133
Okay what do you think hiro meant? I miss /bbg/

>>279986158
this is my post
>>279984756
2nd part is what i think of his answer

>>279977288
>takes dildo out of ass. Wow, this is a story for me...this represents me!

No different than troons trying to infest every piece of media and saying that it caters to them.

>>279986194
Ok. How do you feel about nightreign

>>279977035 (OP)
What the actual fuck

>>279986253
It's meh
Definitely more fun if you are on vc with friends and not with random drooling NPC like retards
Occasionally the randoms will make a cool run happen, but it's too rare to bother
Solo on release, going in blind was a nightmare, now it's easier than with three in many scenarios

If they add more content I'll play it again but I had enough for now

>>279977035 (OP)
what a shitshow.
guess the only thing Ochako will get inside of her is Toga living in her head

>>279986389
Do you like the lore

>>279979220
Fag entitlement never ceases to amaze.

>>279986460
I will be honest I didn't get into it much
Can't shake the feeling half of it is some bs to make use of the ER IP

>>279986556
It is yeah. Actually theres a couple of interesting things too. Digging around the files and comparing it to elden ring people found out heolstor's second phase is from the mimic tear questline that was cut. We know by the dialog thats voiced we were meant to fight it. Hes how it was meant to look. Its also why he has a moonlight greatsword that's not the darkmoon one and why its beams are the same color as the night sorceries which are associated with the nox. Even that giant at the end and the shadowy ones you can see are cut content from elden ring. They're based on that giant in the middle of the ocean dataminers found years ago

>>279977803
Hori is a good artist, but he's a hack otherwise

>>279984756
jjk was definitely not unintentional

>>279977035 (OP)
He's a fucking dumbass. Don't bring the subject of love into your work if you're just going to half ass it. It needs care and consideration.

>>279982433
NTA but it wasn't "axed", just kicked off the roster - moved to Jump GIGA

>>279977288
>-coded

>>279977288
Fujos don't really like homosexuals anon, yes they like to see guys raping each other, but most of them don't expect them to become a couple.

>>279987166
Now why would he do that then? Just go on the internet to tell lies.

>>279987249
I actually want them to be couples. Its kinda like how you guys love anime girls but hate real women. I love fictional cute gay men being awful and cute and romantic to eachother I just can't stand irl gay men or those failed men troons

>>279987533
Well, most fujos can't really do this and this is why there are so few yaoi stories about actual gay relationships in society, though my point is that Ochako getting together with Deku does not matter to most of them, it's a minority who really gets upset about it. It's very likely shonen jump just does not want to portray men in relationships anymore because a lot of their audience are older men who can't relate to protagonists who actually get together with the girl and then moves on from the series.

>>279988072
Probably but I and some fujos I know like men in relationships. We're mostly westerners so that's probably why we dont matter but I have like 3 Japanese efriends who are similar.

>>279977035 (OP)
>>279978592
The general audience these days really can't handle the idea of romance being for after the hero's journey is over.
>>279978761
>>279978882
Kisara is dead.

>>279982310
>Rybitch's Love

It's awful that doujin artists make the protagonist look cooler than Hori did at the end.

>>279988334
Explain this im brown

>>279988280
There are some in japan too, you have manga and even anime about this, but it just doesn't sell that much.

>>279988329
So when's our romance starting

>>279978446
Hori seems like an even bigger homosexual than the actual homosexual (Gege). He's like the gayest straight man to ever exist.

>>279982864
Literally the only good shounen MC out of the 90s.

>>279988527
Ah that makes perfect sense. Explains why I can never find that perfect blend of lovey dovey and toxic yaoi. Im a minority

>>279988617
you're not a hero.

>>279978592
Holy fuck he's such a pussy. He's so afraid of making fujos mad. Social media obsessed writers were a mistake.

i get not wanting romance to be a main thing for your story.
but why treat one of the few guys who actively tries to date the hot girls like a mental patient?

>>279988848
because he was not cool about it
real people dont go around being perverts like they do in romcoms or trashime
they know how to talk to read and talk to girls
not commit sexual assault

>>279982025
>screenshotting your own fujo post

>>279988724
You are. Im your love interest

>>279988925
Bakudeku won. Its canon and he confirmed it.

>>279988848
Because he's an ugly manlet, so he gets treated like one. Face reality, manlet.

>>279977035 (OP)
What did she mean by this

>>279977035 (OP)
>supposed to talk about deku x ochako
>spends the entire time talking about ochako x toga
Is this yuri?

>>279989383
Yes. Yuri and yaoibulls won. Hetcucks lost. Bigly.

>>279977288
HxH and JJK are the only genuinely queer-ish ones. Naruto and MHA are gay in a christian way.

So it seems the main thing that gets active threads on this site comes down to shipping wars and cuck obsession.

>SNK ending
>Erased ending
>Naruto ending
>Bleach ending
>That Kaguya scene
>That Rent a Girlfriend scene
>Now this

>>279988848
comedy.

>>279989692
What kaguya scene

>>279989159
ENHANCE

>>279977288
So thats why China is winning

>>279988953
I am also not a hero.

>>279990929
Youre my hero...

>>279979220
Those are zoomer western fujos. Old fujos and jap fujos don't care

>>279977035 (OP)
This is what hori sees himself as. He is tired of interviews for obvious shit.

>>279977035 (OP)
I don't understand why they choose to write a story about teenagers growing into adults, and willingly choose to omit one of the mist fundamental aspects of the human experience.

Even if you grow into a jaded adult, at some point in your life, you still fell in love with someone. And in the classic hero's journey as a model for growing into adulthood, love is one of those fundamental ingredients necessary.

Yet, you hear it every time from Mangaka "I opted not to write it cause it wasn't one of the main themes."

>>279991105
Whats the obvious thing in relationships to deku and ochako?

>>279977035 (OP)
if they like each other then show progress of it at the end with them being together dating for fuck sake. Horikoshi’s is just cucking deku

>>279991339
the ending is their beginning.

>>279991105
Whats the obvious thing in relation to deku and ochoka

>>279991397
What does this mean? Beginning of what? Im actually low iq i need things said plainly im sorry

>>279991430
The ending of the story is the beginning of their romance.

>>279991448
Okay. Thank you. You are friend now

>>279991252
You wish that was true, but it's not. Maybe it's true for lust, but not "love".

>>279991499
WHY DOES NO ONE EVER SAY IM THERE FRIEND WHY CANT YOU SAY THAT TO ME WHY HIM

>>279977949
If you mean they are the most irresponsible spenders. People with more money also tend to be more frugal.

>>279988431
/asp/ meme
everytime ryback was posted you'd reply to it with that vince gif and >Rybitch's _____ whatever the post was about

>>279991510
I'm speaking in romantic terms. The romanticized idea of love as part of spiritual growth in what's already an idealized symbolic journey for maturation through the idealistic framework of heroism.

Unless you feel like arguing that love interests in pretty much every Fairy Tale and Hero's Journey wasn't "real love." The whole point of Romanticism is that it idealizes concepts which are far more grim in real life. Love being one of those.

Pretty much every Super Hero MHA is aping off of as well also had love be one of the centerpiece themes. Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy, Clark Kent and Louis Lane, etc.... it seems extremely shortsighted to no develop this when you also set up that dynamic early in the story, where readers would expect to see both characters grow and mature in their love.

I think the real answer Hori isn't willing to say, is that he simply doesn't know how to write love, thus, he didn't. He can write the shy unrequited love that's yet to bloom, but he can't actually write what it's like for two people to deeply care about each other in a romantic way.

Hori is still young, I hope MHA serialization didn't burn him out too badly.

>>279992276
Oh If you're talking about storytelling and heroism and not reality then I can respond in an entirely different way. The manga does have love in a heroic and spiritual framework. It features symbolism and metaphor to set up characters as gods in romance. The point of the Toga's blood possession of Ochako is to portray symbolically as Izanami, goddess of creation and death who is a living dead woman in the land of yomi. The idea of a mythlogical living dead woman is common in several as well as the journey to see her is common across several cultures. Just as well, one for all is supposed to make izuku a symbolic representation of a god or messiah. You were pulling your ideas of love and heroism mostly from modern sources when the author was setting up metaphorical ideas of love from various mythologies, the original source of heroic ideas.

>>279992745
>You were pulling your ideas of love and heroism mostly from modern sources
Because MHA is a story based around the modern idea of a Hero. The kind that wears capes, and has superpowers. And MHA also intentionally set up a love interest within the first 3 chapters and explicitly stated her romantic interest in the protagonist multiple times.

Idk why you're bending over backwards to reach for this supposed deep symbolism within the story, when the core beats were set up extremely early in a way so plain and clear that most normies understood it. Which is exactly why people are disappointed. To say these themes were never in play is flat out wrong, as Ochako was established right from the getgo as "the love interest."

>>279977288
>coded

>>279992894
Why would you divide the concept of a modern hero from ancient mythological figures? Both mediums serve to convey magic and fantasy to people. And I never denied the themes you're talking about. The story just clearly set up the romance through implication and metaphor instead of the exact romantic routines the audience wants.

>>279992745
Also, with this post you're pretty much admitting that the theme of love WAS indeed a theme in the story. Just one that was underdeveloped and under explored, thus leading to unsatisfying payoffs.

The concept of
>The idea of a mythlogical living dead woman is common in several as well as the journey to see her is common across several cultures
Works well as a form of exploration of the theme and character development, that leads toward an evolution of the themes in the story that allow the character to properly grow, which leads to the payoff. It's pretty much exactly the reason people are disappointed that the two never hooked up or confessed to each other. Because despite Hori insisting it wasn't a theme, it definitely was. He just didn't properly develop it outside of random beats here and there. It's a thread that ultimately went nowhere, which leaves the overall romantic Spirit of the Hero's Journey feeling undercooked.

I get the feeling he didn't know how to weave the thread of romantic love into the rest of the story, and thus ultimately opted to drop it. Though, honestly, idk. All he needed was to have a scene of the two confessing to each other, and then getting together, and most people would have been satisfied.

>>279993043
Because >>279993073

Also, storytelling is about set ups and payoffs. People are disappointed that he set up a thread he never properly developed. To blame the audience for the author's inability to develop a thread he set up, and then excusing it with really vague, overly pseudo intellectual literary cultural takes on subtle parts of the story is just dishonest at best, and really dumb at worst. The point of storytelling is that you can emotionally communicate ideas to readers so that people can "get it" without needing to dig deeper into broader cultural aspects. Digging deeper should enrich the themes, but it shouldn't be necessary to parse the core emotional beat, lmao.

Stories can be deep, but it's plainly obvious Hori mishandled the romantic love thread, and is now pretending it wasn't a theme within the story to excuse himself. Even though it clearly was.

>>279978370
i mean neither do you

>>279977679
he left it ambiguous to make it easy to backpedal in case it fucks things up

>>279983467
dragon ball lost its popularity to one piece albeit.

>>279993275
I mean, it was pretty obvious pretty much after the whole Overload incident that MHA was not a story that was planned at all. He just sort of wrote things as they came, and we arrived where we did by the end.

You can sometimes tell which manga have their stories planned, and which don't.

>>279983502
But there was Romance in DB, especially in the anime where there's an entire arc specifically for that.

>>279983374
>>279980716
then why is hori copping out?

>>279993357
som goku never really had romantic affection with chichi, they only did each other so he could train new fighters

I don't care much about shipfagging nor do I care all that much about the ending, but I think it's funny how back in the day there were people who thought Deku would look like picrel by the end of the series.

>>279993468
Funny how he still looks like a dork. Lmao.

That being said, I understand why people wanted a Simon from TTGL type development. MHA was perfect for that.

>>279977035 (OP)
>Hori interview: Refuses to confirm Deku+Ochako
Would him saying "Ya they fucked, leave me alone" have really impacted the series in any meaningful way? Particularly now that its ended?
I don't get it.

>>279988072
>so few
There is an entire genre right there, with magazines even

>>279977035 (OP)
>shipfaggots buttmad no one wanted what they want once again
what a surprise
even the losers that come to every thread just to rattle off their memorized bulletin shitlist only think a nonromance manga's good if the protag gets his dick wet
you will absolutely do this with any remotely popular manga ending and you will still be absolutely as pathetic

>>279993939
Could have explicitly shown they fucked... I mean, every major predecessor to MHA showed their hero matured and had offspring. Even Ichigo did.

>>279993550
instead he got the same development as Tsuna from KHR

>>279994038
Not all of them.

>>279993073
It's the journey of how Ochako became the metaphorical ghost woman, the connections and loss are logical parts of that journey. As well as her not saving toga mirroring the failure and loss that Deku felt by not being able to save Shiragaki. Ochako's story is how she makes a good pair to Deku.
>>279993147
While I see what you're saying, especially considering how general audiences think stories should be written. That's your opinion of what ideal storytelling should be. I don't think there's one set way to set up a romance in a comic. And I doubt the author's only goal to write something that would please absolutely everyone who reads it.

>>279977035 (OP)
>character never felt the warmth of a titty or the moisture of a pussy in canon
>gets tons of fanart getting laid

why?

>>279994470
My point goes back to the story clearly not being planned. Thus, you have a thread, the romantic one, which winds up not being properly woven into the narrative, and this winds up having an extremely unsatisfying payoff.

I'm not the one who chose to put a romantic thread onto the story, Hori did. He just didn't know how to properly fully develop it. I understand the part about Toga being about Ochako's character development, that part was obvious. But again, set ups and payoffs.

It's not about readers wanting an ideal story that pleases everyone, it's about Hori mishandling reader expectation due to a lack of proper planning. And honestly, the romantic subplot is only one example of this, MHA is full of flaws throughout, and several intervals where I dropped it because the story felt aimless, because none of it was planned. It's honestly no surprise that the romantic narrative thread which WAS set up early on was handled so poorly given how the rest of the story was handled too.

>>279977035 (OP)
>love was never a major theme in BnH
all he had to say, it's as shrimple as that

>>279978958
It’s very obvious that Hori had no idea what purpose Ochako could serve in the main plot after the tournament arc. Hell, you could even fine tune her old prototype character when she was gloomier looking and had the gigantification quirk. Hori took it from her because he thought it would be too hard to write for and that “her story might take a dark turn for her” whatever that means. Have her detest how her quirk makes her stand out and contrast it with how society perceives quirks (hers is much more dangerous and can easily kill people and cause destruction in comparison to a vamp-like quirk) and go on from there.

>>279979299
That is absolutely not true, they too will seethe about a female character and send death threats if they have to. Ffs they get into pissing matches over who’s ass raping who. I saw real non larping jap fujos (and even korean fujos) shitting themselves over being cucked from bkdk and sending death threats too.

>>279995017
Considering how unpopular Ochako is, it's understandable why she got sidelined.

>>279977035 (OP)
>Hey man you do realize that the way your wrote the ending for your MC could easily be interpreted as making him out to be a loser who peaked in high school right?
>"........"
>Don't you think you could at least let him get the girl? Or you know, any girl?
>"I wanted to depict love in a form as part of something even greater, but I wonder how it turned out?”
Fucking bleak man.

>>279977349
Virtually every adventure story is enhanced by romance.

Hori is simply a hack who got lucky and then too popular and he couldn't handle the demands of fame and hated his own manga and burned out hard, flubbed the ending (average for mangaka) and then completely fucked up the final chapter, only even attempting to fix it with one more page after mass outrage.

Frankly the fanbase would be better off moving fully over to fanfiction for romance answers. Hori confirming or denying Uraraka's romantic feelings is entirely beside the point, and would only taint the fanfiction going forward by raising issues of what's "canon."

Hori needs to just shut the fuck up.

>>279994105
99% of battle shounen have this ending, most just don't call attention to it or end on a timeskip where the protagonist gets a real job offscreen after a decade of studying in practical skills instead of ki manipulation

>>279977035 (OP)
>>279977140
So I was reading some threads in 2ch about Decuck memes. And it's funny that Japs don't understand this shit. No wonder their birthrate is very low and NTR is prevalent in their culture.

>>279977035 (OP)
based. romance should not be the whole point but rather be the cherry on top of the plot if it's there at all
t.shipper

>>279997150
What about a story where love is part of how both characters grow and overcome their personal flaws which is how they're able to overcome the trials of the external conflict.

For example:
>MC grew up unloved
>Main desire to be a hero out of this subconscious desire for love
>Deep down, does not love himself, and feels unworthy of being loved
>Thereby motivating him toward this reckless, borderline suicidal idealism and heroism because he values the lives of others more than his own
>Unknowingly this field the supernatural manifestation of his Jungian shadow since most shounen protags have that
>And that supernatural shadow causes more death and destruction further fueling the protagonists self hatred
>The MCs problem is he doesn't know how to love himself
>Main heroine is the only one able to reach inside his heart
>And she accepts his burden alongside him, willing to walk through hell with him
>Her unconditional love is what ultimately teaches him to accept and love himself
>Which is what allows him to wrestle control of his shadow giving him control of his darker power which he can use for good now
>And due to this, he grows to love her in turn, thereby maturing into a proper and balanced adult

Essentially, use the heroine as the catalyst for that Nietzschian self-actualization of the Hero. Woman, helps man grow and mature from boy to man, through her love.

Basically SAO if it was well written.

>>279977035 (OP)
That is so fucking dumb. He made a story about high schoolers, expecting people to just ta that opens with Deku and Ochako have a really big fated encounter moment. What the fuck was he expecting people to take it as?

>>279977035 (OP)
I was disappointed with the ending and refuse to watch the MHA vigilante version or any other anime/manga put out by Hiroshitshi. When you go the route of what the AOT manga author did to the MC. I just stop reading/watching anything else put out by them.

>>2799977035
That is so fucking dumb. He made a story about high schoolers, with an introduction that opens with Deku and Ochako have a really big fated encounter moment. What the fuck was he expecting people to take it as?

>>279977035 (OP)
More DeKEK!

>>279977035 (OP)
That is so fucking dumb. He made a story about high schoolers, with an introduction that opens with Deku and Ochako have a really big fated encounter moment. What the fuck was he expecting people to take it as?

>>279982864
This is why TOGASHI is the GOAT

deku was gay. he was always crying for bakugo and was obsessed with All Might (a bara)
also it's based on western comic books and every man in western comic books is gay now. remember jean gray? wolverine and cyclops don't, they're gay for each other now.

>>279977035 (OP)
I can't believe Black Clover actually won

>>279994105
Tsukasa's development and ending makes more sense and is more in character with him than Deku's abysmal ending

>>279995017
Still don't quite agree. They don't have to make romantic pandering a central focus if they set it up the romance to be the ending.

>>279984433
>I'm not sure if I'd call them queer-coded when the underlying homoeroticism is usually unintentional.
>unintentional

They knew what they were doing.

>>279997908
It's not pandering. You can choose to not agree, but that doesn't make your opinion objective fact.

Objectively, here's the facts:
>The story was not planned
>There's a narrative thread established in ch.3 for a romantic arc based on a fateful encounter
>People are disappointed at the unsatisfying payoff for what was build up
This is 100% Hori's fault. If he did not want readers to expect romance, then he should have never written Ochako into the story. Full stop.

>>279997433
yeah that sounds pretty nice too. the focus being his own inner turmoil with a budding romance interwoven in is fine too

>>279979220
I hate this ship so much it's unreal. deku deserves better

>>279998059
Yep, bonus points if she has her own character arc that leads her into loving him. Like, they two work together. She goes down a dark path due to external plot points, grows disillusioned, but he's there by her side to pick her up, and give her the courage and strength to find herself again. Being there for her at her darkest moment as her closest friend and confidant. The only person she can truly trust.

It's after this, that she realizes she loves him, and is willing to put everything on the line for his sake. She no longer fights for what she fought before, be it pride, or revenge, or what have you. She seeks to be stronger, for his sake, so she can help him fight his own demons.

It's beautiful.

Fujos made horikoshi pussy out of confirming ships proving he's a weak willed faggot who should quit making manga.

>>279991252
>you still fell in love with someone.
That doesn't equate to being in a relationship. Deku has clear feelings for Ocahko, but we'll never see how that plays out.

>>279998146
He's supposedly making a Horror manga next. I wonder how he'll do. Bitches love Horror. But also, Horror is heavily romantic.

>>279977035 (OP)
Was it really that controversial? Does this need to qualify as news?

>>279997634
A good number of jump authors are art monkeys with no life experience and no romance game. It's easy for them to trip up on writing romance because they have nothing in their own life to base it on. You also just get weird shit like this where they create unintentional bait because they're just clueless young shut-ins who don't realize they've given two of their characters an easy lay up.

>>279982836
You're talking to Westerners. Our concept of the greatest friendship is between a husband and wife.

>>279980579
>was convinced there would be a big timeskip in the middle of the series
Did they ever even most past the first year?

>>279993357
>But there was Romance in DB
No there fucking wasn't. Toriyama only had Goku get married with ChiChi because, 1, he wanted to draw adventures with the protag and his son. And 2, he wanted to spite his editor for beginning him to pair Goku and Bulma together. Goku was only arsed to find a relationship because he bumped into ChiChi years later who made him honor his "promise" to marry her.

>>279998232
Members of the opposite sex cannot ever be just friends. Not truly friends. A deeply enough developed friendship between a man and a woman naturally becomes romantic.

>What about gays
They're mentally ill

>>279994038
Gintoki is a bachelor

>>279998283
Exceptions prove the rule.

>>279998200
>making a Horror manga next
can't fucking wait

>>279998353
I'm just saying, you can have a protag not tie the knot.

>>279994105
Yes but no, he lost his powers but the point was that his mentality totally changed.
As far as we can tell Deku is still completely bitch made.

>>279997966
And I disagree that he needs to push the relationship into the readers' faces if he was building up the characters to get into the relationship at the end of their journey. Also I don't know why you're acting like the story being unplanned is somehow a super negative thing. the vast majority of week to week and month to month manga are largely unplanned. maybe a basic premise is planned but an ending a decade down the line? not likely.

>>279977035 (OP)
>pander to Izuochafags with 431
>announce an Izuocha event weeks later with their VAs and merch
>it flops
shipfags have no right to complain lol

>>279998518
only the fujos.

>>279977140
You mutts sure love cuckshit huh

I thought the whole story was built around Deku and Ochako?

>>279980252
You bet on a shitty pairing and now you think romance doesn't belong in fiction.

>>279980695
>Story where all the characters who only valued power and fame got hurt or hurt others ends with the MC without power or great fame
bnhafags must be the most retarded faggots in the history of manga

deku ends the story with a deus ex ironman suit that allows him to immediately become the n°4 ranked hero and the very last thing we see of the manga is some journo calling him a legendary hero or something

how the fuck are you going to accuse others of not understanding a simple narrative when you don't even read the shitty manga you pointlessly defend here

>>279977207
Please learn english before posting here.

>love in a form as part of
is it me or is this terrible writing? what is the purpose of the "in a form" in this context? why not just say "love as a part of something greater"?

>>279999577
It sounds clunky because it's an overly literal translation from the Japanese.

>>279977791
didn't he go on a date with anzu in the movie? watched it a while ago

I'm way more livid we still don't have a good epilogue for Vigilantes because by the gods it needs one.

>>279996945
What did they say?

Best ending

Why do you people care so much about BNHA?

>>279977035 (OP)
NTRgods won.

>>279977249
More like Horikoshi shat on his pants and didn't want to commit out of fear of bkdk fujos

>>279978882
Yugi is allergic to pussy his height because of Rebecca going full Urusei Yatsura on him.

>>279979275
>Fujos loved this series, ships include Tien and Yamcha or Goku and Vegeta
Only in burgerland.
DB was too under the radar for nip fujos, despite of its success, it never caught the attention of hardcore 80s nip fujos unlike Saint Seiya, Hokuto no Ken, Gundam or even Kinnikuman.

>>279980545
>>279980604
>>279982932
>>279977288
Not my MC, he was too hetero for this magazine.
And i hope Tabata dedicates a full chapter to him and Noll fucking like rabbits

I must be missing something here, how is this deconfirming the pairing? He basically said he wanted to write about romance in the epilogue and concluded by saying that he wrote about love in the context of a greater point (in this case it's heroes learning how to live their lives outside of hero work, like todoroki enjoying his food related hobbies)

yet somehow this is interpreted as vague or even confirming deku and ochako didn't end up together? is it bait or are bnhafags really that retarded?

>>280001233
they did do that multiple times in the series. anzu usually was trying to get the pharaoh to come out.

>>279993320
>dragon ball lost its popularity to one piece albeit.
Never ever Luffyrat.

>>280001963
mai was very direct about it too.

>>279977035 (OP)
Hori might just be an idiot
He's also a bitch ass faggot, but we already knew that, but didn't expect him to be this stupid
Even Toriyama who had zero interest in romance knew that Goku needed a wife at the end of Dragon Ball

>>279978592
>It's like you fags have never even watched an Yu-Gi-Oh before
What are you even talking about? Real quick:
>Original
It's pretty clear Yugi and Anzu end up together.
>GX
Judai merges with Yubel permanently in a declaration of love.
>5Ds
Okay, sure.
>ZEXAL
Yuma and Kotori are blatantly together.
>Arc-V
Yuya and Yuzu are also blatantly together. And in the manga version she's actually his mother from the past who goes on to bang his dad.
>VRAINS
Maybe? I don't remember the show that well.
>Rush
Correct me of I'm wrong but didn't this show actually have multiple confirmed pairings? Or at least very strongly allude to it?
>Go Rush
The finale of the first season had the protagonist declare his love to his rival. They're gay as fuck. I haven't watched the rest yet but to my recollection Go Rush takes place in the past which means most of the cast bangs. And it kind of seemed like it was leading into Yuga becoming the father of the Goha siblings and/or Asano to me but I'd have to watch the rest of the show to see.

Seriously to my recollection most YGO protagonists either explicitly end up with someone or it's so obvious you'd have to be extremely retarded to not understand it. And if we're talking about glorified commercials for children's toys you have shit like Pokemon giving Ash a canon love interest who kisses him and says she's waiting for him and Digimon Adventure ending with a flash forward of everyone grown up with kids. With multiple characters being together.

DB has Goku bang Chi-Chi, Naruto has Naruto bang Hinata, Bleach has Ichigo bang Orihime...what's the deal with MHA?

>>280002243
>or it's so obvious you'd have to be extremely retarded to not understand it.
yeah so like bnha then

>>280001883
>are bnhafags really that retarded?
Well, shippers are. As long as you leave any room for ambiguity (and even if you don't) they will never stop finding ways to delude themselves. Hori knows this and his refusal to lay down the law is him giving fujos his tacit permission to run free. Of course no one who wasn't being deliberately obtuse would interpret 431 as anything but an IzuOcha ending, but Hori likes money and dislikes upsetting people so he'll allow the fans to have their delusions.

>>280002243
Yugioh doesn't truly confirm any romance in the anime, it just implies. Even the rush stuff is more complicated and relies almost entirely on implication, you'll figure that out if you finish go rush. It really is on the same level as MHA. Except the drama is much more muted obviously.

>>279984529
Confirmed to be a forever virgin incel then.
He doesn't have anything left to give so they save face by tolerating him in an honorary position.
How venomously japanese.

>>279983655
>only beat some local fag cosplaying as michael jackson from a little island that he still couldn't beat, the sun beat him
>lost an arm and an eye, can't even chop firewood, harvest rice, cook food, fetch water from the well, wipe his ass after shitting, or bathe himself without getting help from Inosuke, Kanao, Nezuko, or Zenitsu
>died at age 25 on year 1925, leaving his crippled blind wife a widow and a single mom, she likely remarried and fucked another man
>his sister left him for the unfunny blonde incel (NEVER pair the imouto with the unfunny comic relief)
>his kids suffered from being nuked in Hiroshima/Nagasaki or firebombed in Tokyo by Americans in 1945 and went through the Great Depression
Cuckjiro didn't win anything other than an early funeral at 25 and the privilege of getting to watch his wife and sister getting fucked in the afterlife at front row. Maybe that's why so many Mexicans like (You) love Demon Slayer, NTR is so ingrained into your culture. You can't see love in any other form besides sex and conquer.
>b-but Deku didn't end up with Ochako according to my taco fanfiction!!
Meanwhile in reality...
>Hori: I wanted to depict love in a form as part of something even greater.
You lose again.

>>279996945
Probably because they're not brain damaged subhuman sudaca chimp retards like most of the western MHA fanbase (and you)

MHA baffles me because earlier the fanbase was very pretentious. It was all about “deconstructing the genre” but soon the tryhard group who were actually mad that narusaku and ichiruki weren't a thing, abandoned ship. and all that was left were the toddlers. But the toddlers grew up and became old enough to masturbate, and they were upset that their ship wasn't a thing. Nothing ever changes

>>280002576
...then Deku woke up to the sounds of Bakugo exploding all over Onahole's face.

Anyone would probably want to avoid another NaruSaku/IchiRuki/Zutara shitshow.

>>280001358
Who knows. If it gets a complete anime adaptation maybe they'll expand the ending.

>>280002576
This. The theme of chapter 431 is both Deku and Ochako were both being too focused on their responsibilities and not really "living" life on their terms. Both Bakugou and Toga help Deku and Ochako realize that it's okay to live how you want to and that you can be with the person you love freely. It's symbolized through Toga pushing Ochako to live life how she wants to and by Bakugo putting the idea in Deku's head that "no one is special to you if everyone is."

But as per usual, spics and mutts (I know the shitposting mostly comes from the Black Clover/KnYspic) can't into subtlety, especially in a children's comic themed “to save and to be saved.” That's why this chapter is a a good filter to expose who actually read the manga and who didn't.

Mina x Deku should've been endgame.

>>280001880
>And i hope Tabata dedicates a full chapter to him and Noll fucking like rabbits
Anon...
Mimosa's gonna win. She has the winning heroine coded colors (green thematics, warmer/typical hair color) and has a supporting role to Asta (being a healer)
Noll lost by being blue coded (the color of the losing heroines), too tsundere and too much of a fighter to even be a proper support to Asta.

>>280001963
>pharaoh
You alreadybsaid that. Anzu liked Atem.
The one who liked Yugi is Gramps Mutou's rival's granddaughter.

>>279982254
Meh. Goku is a better protagonist in my opinion.

>>279987166
Yeah, it was axed from Jump. But fags will cope how it was all part of the plan.

Jump GIGA literally has not published a series since 2019. All of 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024 has been one-shots and some bonus content from other Shounen Jump series (and an epilogue for Agravity Boys, a gaiden chapter for Magu-chan, and a special fan-requested chapter of Yuuna and the Hot Springs).

Manga are never moved to GIGA because that's for mini-series, spin-offs, and bonus art. Think of it like this; Black Clover's entire finale has the same amount of respect given to it as a casual drawing of Deku.

>>279977035 (OP)
>even as certain relationships became fan favorites
Nigger, you wrote them that way yourself.

>>280002324
if he wanted it to be romantic it wouldn't have ended with a dap up retard
he deliberately toned it down to make it easy to walk back on it and any decision that's easy to backwalk is meaningless

>>279977803
She is truly the best girl.

>>280002007
tell me when they animate the moro arc, cope fag.

>>280002576
>>280002720
Heh, got your ass again Jeremy. You're too easy to bait.

>>279977140
this is obsessive behavior o algo

>>280002713
Well this would've been easily avoided if they concluded the ship early on just like in Dragon Ball.

>>280002761
yugi and atem are same guy.

>>279979796
>>279999097
It's unironically cynicism.
Deku is this effeminate, moralfag, good two-shoes and it fills them with butterflies when the wages of such behavior is basically suffering an eternal humiliation because they want every MC to be Patrick Bateman.

>>280004478
What an off the wall comparison. Patrick Bateman hated himself and wished the people around him gave a shit about the world and people around them, that's a work of fiction that's pretty much the exact opposite of a world of idealistic super heroes.

Mha leeks
From what I've heard these are supposed to be photos taken by deku
If any of you soilsucking pissbabies got a more hd image of the leeks that'd be great

>>280003909
>jeremy jeremy jeremy
Wipe your ass, Cloverspic.

>>279977035 (OP)
This is why Tatsu and Dan Da Dan ante superior

What I don't understand is how people even like Deku to be bothered by this. Do they insist in self-inserting in the MC or what?

What the fuck did you expect out of a MHA ending? Genuine question.

>>280004453
Atem was the pharaoh tho.

>>280005680
Deku sure gets around.

>>279982885
That's only threads here.

YABBA DABBA DOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>279989597
Naruto and Sasuke have canonically kissed eachother. Kishomoto was fujobaiting since chapter 4.

>>279983408
>that crush from Deku's side still came out of nowhere at the very end
I'll be honest. I've only watched the anime and only what's been dubbed, although I've had the ending spoiled for me because who hasn't at this point? To say his crush for Ochako came out of nowhere is just crazy, they've always clearly had chemistry from the very beginning which is what makes it so lame that nothing at all came from it.

But in the end, who cares, he should have been with Mei anyway.

>>279993357
>But there was Romance in DB
Goku has 2 kids and has never even kissed his wife, Dragon Ball might be the most anti-romance anime in existence.

Didn't read, is Keku still a cuck?

>>279993468
I mean he inherited one for all from All Might and had to train his body to even be able to use the power correctly, so it's not really a stretch to think Deku would end up being built like All Might was by the end of the series. It's honestly weirder that he isn't.

>>280008361
I thought Deku was really likable for the first half of the story. It was awesome how determined he was to be a hero despite all the setbacks and hurdles he had to face. Then it seems like after the talent show he just turned into the complete whiney faggot that everyone who hated on MHA when it first came out assumed Deku was at the start. I gave up on liking Deku when he became Bakugo's cheerleader no matter how badly Bakugo treated him even after its been clearly established that Deku is just better than him now. I was hoping the fight between Deku and Bakugo would settle the issue between them and at least have Bakugo treat him with more respect, if anything it got worse and as Deku got more powerful he simultaneously got more and more permissive of Bakugo's bullying to the point where he's practically encouraging it, very disappointing to see the MHA haters were eventually proven right about Deku.

>>280014889
>Goku has 2 kids and has never even kissed
what the literal fuck. what level of autism is this

>>280015114
>what level of autism is this
Toriyama level butthurt
He hated Dragon Ball Evolution so much, it also had Goku kissing Chi-Chi

>>280015114
Tbh kissing your wife is kinda gay. Her mouth is where your dick goes, you shouldn't be putting your mouth there.

>>279981663
> I don't really understand what "explore love as a broader, more aspirational force" really means
Don't overthink it. It's just a roundabout way of saying "They didn't end up together"

>>279999470
>E-E-ESL kun!!!
fuk off retard

>>279977207
That´s the blight of zoomers, can´t imagine a world with any kind of friendship, for them, only sexual relations exist.

>>279977207
Deku and Ochaku were absolutely meant to happen, which is exactly why everyone is so disappointed by nothing happening between them. It would be one thing if people were complaining about Deku and Toga not getting together or something, but it was very plainly and strongly implied that there was something between Deku and Ochako that should have come about at some point in the story, even if it turns out they tried being together and for whatever reason it just couldn't work out would have been better than nothing at all.

>>280008484
I think at the very minimum, people were expecting the standard "MC settles down at the end of the journey and marries the heroine" deal. And honestly, I am a bit surprised that's not what happened.

>>279998253
*begging
Shit, I'm retarded.

>>280014889
>>280015114
Toriyama's overcorrection with his portrayal of Goku during the last ten years has been absurd. He went from being kinda clueless to just being a Chris Chan with Olympic strength.

guys i thought deku was supposed to be a cuck, why does he walk like yujiro hanma?

>>280016565
>Chris Chan with Olympic strength.

>>280014817
>Tfw he's pozzed

>>280016213
>Deku and Ochaku were absolutely meant to happen,
Holy retardness of shippers....
Who are you or any of your kind to decidee what´s meant to happen? Did they wen on dtes or something?

>>280017350
It's not shipping if it's implied throughout the entirety of the story you autistic bozo. Just because you'll never have a romantic relationship doesn't mean it's not obvious to everyone else in the world that there was one implied to eventually happen by the story, which is exactly why Horikoshi had to address the issue, because everyone knew something should have happened between them and it didn't, stupid fucking retarded faggot nigger bitch.

>>280016807
That's the Yujiro stride after raping a man btw.

>>279995948
>Considering how unpopular Ochako is,

>>279978614
That image is just sad.

>>280017519
Oh the fucking irony....

>>280017550
Who was on the receiving end?

>>280017836
most of those chars ranked higher with less screentime which says a lot
she's the most popular girl sure but that's a very low bar

>>279978625
nah I just got a lot of relationship dynamics I find cute. deku x ocha is pretty cute for example. however deku x tsuyu is also cute

>>279977035 (OP)
Considering that hetfags are clutching at that new Gundam anime, I can't blame him for not confirming Deku and Ochako being together

>>280014912
>Did Deku get the girl?
>W-well y-you see, MHA wasnt really meant to be about r-romance and l-love and and
Yes

>>280017350
Why do you pretend there wasn't constantly teasing about their relationship?

>>279977035 (OP)
Oh no, a romantically conservative shonen manga? What a shock.

>>280002799
Cope Fagremy.
Everything you said is wrong.

>>280005873
Jeremy you are a Nigger thoughbeit, lower scale than Spics.

>>279977035 (OP)
I seriously do not understand why this fandom has been pretending they got together. There is literally no evidence of it. Zero.
Yet I keep seeing people say “the extra chapter totally proves they got together and Deku isn’t pathetic I swear”

>>279983655
Based.

>>280002576
Chad Slayer had all the surviving characters sit down and pump out 6+ babies each at the end. Herocucks, what's your excuse?

>>279978614
I like the one on the right better im not an architect, haters will say this is ragebait

>>279990980
Academia.

>>280005680
>>280014892
What an absolute sex demon. Holy fuck. You can tell she's definitely an exhibitionist and very confident in her looks.

>>280005680
>>280020380
Invisible woman finds out her banging visible body is her actual super power.

>>280019780
>[taco talk]
Shut up and learn English, Cloverspic.

You unironically like an axebait manga (how's that season 5 anime coming along btw?) aka Naruto in medieval and worse, you're beneath me, you inferior lifeform.

>>279977035 (OP)
Now I want to see a blockbuster anime

Lemillion won so hard. That's all that matters

>>279977035 (OP)
tldr version: gays ruin fandoms and series
not intentionally

>>280020608
>Gibberish

You're a Nigger, Rugga/Barry/Jeremy, that's the universal truth.

>>280005873
Stop the cope Jeremy, you got baited as always.

>>280004901
>world of idealistic super heroes.
Is still fiction
But not one tailored for the cucks who cry for a sigma MC bullshit

>>279982433
Never happened. The mangaka simply couldn't keep up with a regular schedule.

>>279982256
>t. Doesn't have loving parents

I think what we saw is a man incredibly good at putting out amazing character designs one after another slowly realize he's shit at telling stories and providing synergy between those designs.

>>280024750
>amazing character designs
MHA is beyond goofy and garish, one of the ugliest manga ever.

>>280023678
>>280023625
MHA isn’t axed from jump like axed clover bcuck

>>280014892
She found an on-off switch for her quirk?

>>279977035 (OP)
horrifying news

>>280014683
daddy daddy doo

>>280005680
Is that an ahegao on Jirou?

Deku and Horikoshi are both cucks

>>279989159
>deku took home invisible girl
I see he was practicing his Texas smash

Shippers are fucking pathetic, even if they are told that there won´t be any romance in the story (like Kami erabi did), still cry that the author is hack and should shoehorn their delusions on the story.

>Shigaraki, I will never forgive you
>I forgive you anyway
why did Hori keep giving Deku chances to not be pathetic only to continuously double down on making him more pathetic?

>>279977035 (OP)
>but I wonder how it turned out?
that's even worse LOL
YABBA DABBA DOO

>>280028105
Huh? In their very last conversation, he tells Shigaraki that he couldn't forgive his actions (or allow them to continue, it's the same word in Japanese). But he also realized that Tenko was suffering and wanted to be stopped. Compassion is different from forgiveness.

Toga was the only interesting girl to follow the story should have been her dealing with her shitty cursed quirk and befriending a few weirdos while the rest of the world is dead set on telling her being born is already unnacceptable.

>>279977035 (OP)
>He also noted that Deku’s unawareness of romantic cues helped him avoid traditional love storylines while still grounding the characters in emotionally impactful experiences.
Sasuga Hori sama, truly masterful writing techniques

it makes me genuinely happy to know that that faggot Dabi killed himself and burned in hell in vain, all he wanted was Endeavour to suffer, and instead Endeavour canonically gets to live a full, happy life with his friends and family without that whining failure dragging everything down
the one good thing Hori did for MHA

>>279977035 (OP)
So in conclusion, deku ended up with ochako.

>>280028105
I mean if you want an MC that kills scumbag villains, then go read Hokuto no Ken.

>>279977035 (OP)
Femboy Deku confirmed

>>279982619
Introverted black nerd here. I don't really like Deku. Also, La Brava is best girl.

>>279977803
Based, just imagine the sex...

>>279986756
None of that is true, people just speculate that Heolstor is a Silver Tear or Mimic Tear, but that doesn't align with what we do learn about Heolstor. The only Nightreign boss who might have been originally intended for Elden Ring is Caligo, since Caligo's ID in the game's files isn't placed with the other bosses and instead matches an ID in Elden Ring that's empty save for two file names about a body and a wing. There's also no giant in the middle of the ocean in Elden Ring's files, that's a mock-up someone made based on the name of an unused, scrapped enemy found in the files.

Anyway, for BnHA, Horikoshi is giving non-answer after non-answer. He should just say that he doesn't care for writing romance instead and felt there were better things to focus on with the chapters and the epilogue.

>>280029952
Best thing Hori did. Exhibition also confirm Hawks still visits Endeavor and has coffee.

This ship is unironically more canon than IzuOshit.

>>279977140
aha

>>280030356
Yeah, I just assumed because my best friend is an introverted black nerd and he loved what he saw of MHA. He's really more a fan of superheroes in general though, so anime X-men was right up his alley.

>>280028115
>DBSpic lingo
Back to your containment thread where you belong, Paco.

>>279977140
FPBP

>>279977140
>>279980408
>>279980568
>>279996945
>>280035584
>>280037328
Samefag

>>280037495
Nope, dekuck is a cuck faggot.

>>280037638
>he entered with his phone to support himself
>edited with 4chanx
Samefag

You niggers already had romance in MHA. Its called Gentle and La Brava

>>279999097
It's mostly just one mutt who has MHA living in his head rent free. The funny thing is that he thinks this outdated meme works, but slander generally only works when it's grounded in truth like the Potential Man meme because Megumi actually does end up being a Potential Man in the story, that's why it's still so funny.

Deku doesn't work at the McDonald's at all and is a top ranked hero (debuted at #4) and teaches with All Might at the most prestigious hero school in the world. It aged so bad.

>>280023794
Wasn't saying they deserved that type of character. MHA is obviously a light fantasy and not some kind of dark crime drama.

>>280038667
Cope

>>279977288
>Black Clover got axed because it was too heterosexual for Shonen Jump. All the best sellers are queer-coded
Truth Nuke!
From the fluffiest and sweetest of series to the funniest narratives! Vive la LGBTQ+!

>>279977249
Naruto at least got the best girl that wasn't Ino. Ochako would have been the mid choice when compared to Tsuyu, Momo and Himiko.

>>280039105
Cope on deez nuts

>>280025223
Season 2 incoming. Just taking L's left and right arent you?

>>280020044
They are just using their imagination like Hori said.

>>280039567
>a-any second now!!
lolok
btw your own fans know what’s up

For me, it’s Hawks.

>>280041813
mirko's fucktoy

Why is he so hot?

>>280039397
ochako is the top tier choice.

>>279977140
desu idgaf about romance between fictional characters. most media is best left of exploring other themes rather than meaningless "will they/won't they"

>>280028963
Pipe down

>>280042010
Endeavor's fucktoy*

>>280044910
they're both mirko's fucktoys

>>279994105
He may of lost his powers but he grew as a character mentally and became much braver. Deku stayed the same throughout the whole story

>>279994143
Tsunayoshi Sawada, probably gets laid in the future now thats he's much braver

>>280045205
You haven't read Hitman Reborn, Tsuna is easily one of the worst characters. Deku can be pretty wimpy but at least in the few sparse times he mans up it's not because of some magic bullet or pill that completely alters his personality. Also he's yet to steal the Kamehameha like Tsuna shamelessly did.

>>280045280
Tsuna relies on the pill and bullet for the first few arcs but stops using them. he doesn't do the kahmehaha he uses one hand to shoot energy and the other to keep balance. its not like dbz reserves the right to use energy based attacks

>>279977349
How hard is it to integrate romance into the main story
actual novelist can do it

>>279982864
>Would never happened without naoko influence
Men cant romance

>>280014889
super is already retconed
your headcanon isnt valid anymore

I can admit by now that Ochaco was a mistake. If she had died early in the series she would be remembered well and have a purpose by showing Class A that being a hero isn't all fun and games. Or at least she should have been the traitor instead of Aoyama so we could have real traitor kino.

>>280047227
>Betrays for money
Would have been Kino

>>279977035 (OP)
>All characters 25+
>All unmarried
>All have no kids
>All look and act the same as they did 10 years ago

>>280047427
Wow just like real life millenials and zoomers.

>>280047514
zoomers can relate to the story, but my hero academia at its core is a millennial manga. every single character just oozes millennial aura. major proof being the characters hardly use their phones, because horikoshi probably remembers a youth where phone use was mutch less common compared to kids today. millennials didn't start being doomscrolling dopamine addicts with their phones until they were majority out of high school.

>>280034239
What's that slut jiro doing with my hero mirio's wife

>>280032939
>He should just say that he doesn't care for writing romance instead and felt there were better things to focus on
Maybe that's not how he really feels. Maybe he does want to write romance just not the romance and is being forced not to.

>>279977035 (OP)
In conclusion, deku won.

>>280002204
That was to write in gohan.

>>280005680
>>280027312
Yup~

Deku Jiro was always the ship