What did Denji do to apologize to Makima?
>>280037066 (OP)Scumji's death will be the best apology ever
>>280037066 (OP)I still have doubts about this one but it's got something to do with the food. Still, I'll never watch the anime
>>280037108Apology to who? Asa?
we love SLUTru in this thread
>>280038589I cummed to this
>>280038589>I have dark skin too, can I join?
>>280038646Silence. We are cum tributing to AsaYoru right now. Donโt disturb this threadly ritual.
>>280038739Didn't you say you already cummed to it?
>>280038794Yes. Now it is your turn brother.
dead joke of a thread
dead joke of a series
what a waste
>>280038876But i don't want to cum to yoru fucking niggers
>>280039024Donโt say that word brother what the hell?
Gentle love making with Makima is all I can think about
>>280039208kino, so fvcking kino...
>>280038646>>280039093Pee is malding so hard
>>280039401Itโs ok brother. Come here and give me a hug.
>>280039623>subhuman that is into interracial cuckshit is also gayShocker!
>>280039623Sounds like someone is in need of a hug. Come here brother
How do i know Yoru is the best horseman? It's simple, she would get really hyped at KINO scenes like this https://youtu.be/12B9Ua-vzi4?si=IAWw7GaWuCBuNSva&t=52
How do i know Makima is the absolute worst? She would want to delete Bayformers from existance
I blame Denji and Makima. A franchise's main characters reflect in the people it attracts. Deku's a pussy ass bitch, so he pulls in fujoshis pumping out fanfics about Bakugo dicking him down. Sukuna and Gojo are cocky battle autists, so they draw powerscaling, "hype moments and aura" zoomers. Denji's a coombrain and Makima's a deliberate cockteaser, so they attract porn addicts.
If Aki, young Kishibe, or Reze were the protagonists, we'd see a classier, higher-IQ fanbase.
>>280039991I can definitely imagine Makima seething while Yoru and Death are binge watching some absolute slop movies
Annie and Nayuta fanart would be great
>>280040436>Battleship>Yoru hyped as fuck at the ship fights>Shigga without any reaction>Famine wanting the humans to be saved by getting killed by the aliens>Makima seething because the movie is just braindead fun instead of some pretentious oscar bait
>>280039991Makima would totally love that scene
>>280040559No she wouldn't. Pseuds hate anything made by Michael Bay
>>280040512>Shigga eating all the snacks
>>280040621She's smart, not a pseud. She can't help but like all the cool scenes in movies which is why she was so playful in late part 1
>>280040870She would say exactly this
The same passive-agressive shit
>>280040922She's right on that one, flashy scenes can be more memorable than the movie as a whole. Denji didn't think it was very interesting as well, and he's not exactly a pseud
>>280041071Yet she doesnt think bad movies should exist, and at that time she was just putting up a facade to fool Denji
Makima only consumes pseud critics approved shit like that soviet propaganda movie
>>280041107>Yet she doesnt think bad movies should existShe watched them anyways. There was no need to put up a facade because Denji agreed with her.
>Makima only consumes pseud critics approved shit like that soviet propaganda movieShe knew before the date that she doesn't like most movies and, again, watched all of them anyways. Even Denji liked it
>>280041278>She watched them anywaysno shit, thats what we're talking about here
>>280040436
>>280041304If anything she'd keep to herself how much she likes the movie, at the end of Part 1 she tries really hard to look cool with the bangs, epic showdowns and such, and she could have learnt of those things only from movies.
>>280040922She's right
Michael Bay movies are slop
...and by NTR I mean napping to rest.
>>280041415>she tries really hard to look cool with the bangs, epic showdowns and suchShe was just trying to feel superior to Pochita so she could control him.
You could argue the smoking part was that, but there's a bunch of boring movies that treat smoking as cool too
>>280041419You sound you like boring slop like Parasite
>>280041566Euphemism for dying in her sleep.
>>280041648>EuphemismVery scholarly.
>>280040512the spectrum of horseman reactions to a michael bay scene would probably look something like this
>>280041107She's a quirky devil so I'd expect her to bawl her eyes out to some really cheesy, cliche soap operas that everyone else just laughs at.
>>280041775Swap Shigga for this one and i'll agree
>>280041782This but Asa instead.
>>280041802you guys really dont understand makima at all
Makima is the most beautiful horsewaifu, The second is Yoru/Asa
>>280041855Her thighs aren't that thick.
>>280041740My capabilities are impressive when I'm given a bit of freedom and independence from being the usual doormat.
>>280041775Makima and Nayuta would have similar reactions.
There's no way Makima doesn't like action sloppa after that speech about Pochita she gave out.
>>280041845How do you really "understand" a character who mainly faked her emotions except for the last few pages of her existence?
Fujimoto himself says he really leaves it up to people's own judgment and doesn't want to convey everything to the reader. Which is why you have such a wide variety of opinions on these characters.
Yoru >= Shigga > Fami > Nayuta > Makima
>>280041943Dumb action fun movies are predictable, unlike her headcanon of Pochita. So no, she doesn't like it
Nayuta does because she was raised by Denji, who would think Bayformers is the coolest shit ever (it is btw)
>>280041855Fact check: True
>>280041943That was literally the reaction she had to watching some big-budget action film
>>280041943Let her collect every Pochita toy out there
>>280041647Yes Parasite is a good movie
>>280042009She's so ugly...
>>280039991Man, i wish for Transformers Devastion 2.
>>280042169IndianGODS went to sleep.
>>280042154Silence slop enjoyer.
>but I want CGI people shooting each otherMickey 17 (also by Bong Joon Ho) clears all of Bay's movies
>>280041890Nayuta ate a lot of sweets, I always wondered if she would really get a fat ass
>>280042224Whatever you say bud
>>280042226She should have
just noticed mickey 17 is that boring as shit movie with robert pattinson lmao, fell asleep midway through it
>>280041647i liked the begining but the ending was meh
>>280037066 (OP)Why do you keep asking this as if it denji has to apologize or as if she apologized and denji didn't.
>>280042283>P can't appreciate good cinemaColor me surprised
>>280042370Be careful what you wish for.
>>280042375Cinema is entertainment
Good cinema is good entertainment
Boring stuff does not entertain me, thus it cannot be good cinema.
>>280042334Need a good answer
>>280042425Manga is entertainment
Good manga is good entertainment
Boring stuff does not entertain me, thus it cannot be good cinema.
Therefore Chainsaw Man Part 2 is not good.
>>280041995It's not just the Pochita thing.
Makima constantly acts in a very chunni way throughout the story, and the manga is self-aware about it as seen in that moment where she tries to smoke after beating Pochita.
The best explanation I can give is that she was putting up a mask in the way she presented herself, that momentarily slipped during that hug movie scene, and came off entirely after Power's death.
I never got the impression that Nayuta was different from Makima aside from being obviously less evil.
>>280042458Then why are you here?
>>280041855Agree to agree
>>280042477Shitposting is entertainment
Good shitposting is good entertainment
Boring stuff does not entertain me, thus it cannot be good shitposting.
>>280042224>>280042425Mickey 17 is legit boring, just watch The Lighthouse instead.
>>280042524>i just follow CSM religiously to shitpost about it i dont enjoy it i swear>admitting to trolling outside of /b/Living proof midwits love to pretend to like boring movies to think they are smart
>>280042535Correct
>>280042535What do those two movies remotely have in common?
>>280042587They are artsy movies with Robert Pattinson, the difference being that The Lighthouse is actually good
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>>280042587That vampire guy.
>>280041855Personally I'd go with Famine > Makima > Nayuta > Death > Asaru
>>280042560>i just follow CSM religiously to shitpost about it i dont enjoy it i swearCorrect. We /snk/ now.
We all know the manga is slop but the threads are a blast.
>Living proof midwits love to pretend to like boring movies to think they are smartThis is what Part 2 apologists do
>>280042652>weI'm male and identify as a male, there's no ''we''
>>280042621>Mickey 17>artsy???????????????????
That's like saying Knives Out is artsy.
>>280042621>artsy movies The fuck does that even mean? Mickey 17 is a big budget sci fi dark comedy with vague moral quandaries about colonization while The Lighthouse is a psychological horror movie with brief moments of brevity and philosophical pondering.
>>280042682It literally is
btw Knives Out also sucks
>>280042652We're moving towards that tree on the endgame and it does not look good
>>280042691>The fuck does that even mean?quirky boring movies that pretend to be special but it always falls under the same Wes Anderson-resque umbrella, what else could it mean
>>280042691Thank you grok
>>280042701It literally isn't.
Just because there isn't CGI robots fighting each other doesn't mean it's "artsy"
>btw Knives Out also sucksIt was a decent 7/10 imo. Glass Onion wasn't very good though
>>280042370I do not recommend it to you if you want your anal elasticity to be intact. I was pegging by my dominant girlfriend and couldn't sit for 4 days.
>>280042827>cuckAsa reference
>>280042642Fami + no tears + early p2 art and it literally wouldn't even be a contest
>>280042642Swap Asaru with Makima
>>280042691mickey 17 just said we should be nicer to the natives living there
>>280042691>with vague moral quandaries about colonizationPowerfag was right once again
>ESL got pegged and can't sit properly anymore
I kek
>>280042957Fake scenario, authentic faggotry
>>280042920To be fair we should do that
>>280042944Take a seat, anon.
>>280043015It's a decent manga but that character has literally done nothing except kill a couple of jobbers.
Versus is not really focused on characters at all but giant monster battles.
>>280043153The physical manifestation of War being stupid and horny and funny is way more interesting and unique than the standard edgy srs bsness shit #90001
>>280043219Not him but Yoru is really boring
>>280043325If you think something is boring that means something is really well made, considering the absolute dogshit taste you have
>>280043219Well, the funny thing is that manga is kind of like the Michael Bay movie of mangas. It's unapologetic slop with freakin' godzilla and aliens and mechas, and everything else you can think of, thrown in to make for the biggest possible spectacle.
Really a weird manga to bait with because it's often criticized for not having much in the way of character writing. Characters die or get side-lined even more abruptly than in a Fujimoto manga, the protagonist hasn't been seen for a year at this point.
>>280043387That looks like Rosen Garten
>the funny thing is that manga is kind of like the Michael Bay movie of mangaFor me it's unironically Part 1, which is why i think that if a CSM live action ever happened, Bay should be the one directing it. Or Robert Rodriguez
>Really a weird manga to bait with He doesn't even read the manga he baits with, he just likes shitting up the threads
>>280037066 (OP)Stealth general. Uh, jannies? Clean up time?
>>280043401Do not compare me to Asa :(
Asa? /csm/'s queen and the plot.
>>280043219Yoru has almost nothing to do with War beyond the name.
Aside from Makima, all the horsefus personalities feel like an afterthought.
>>280043585Based and chadly
>>280043598>war being stupid >death being dead insideThe only one that doesnt fit (yet) is Famine, but we barely saw anything about her yet
You know back when Fumiko first showed up I was more alright with Denji flipping back into his old persona of being a horndog and nothing more, cause it made sense with trauma and bad habits, you can't just be completely better in an instant, and it's extremely easy to relapse back into old habits
But at this point it feels like Denji just ain't gonna get better, and that'll be his character going forth is 'Im going to get better!' and then immediately falling for the next girl who treats him with any humanity
Also I feel like I can't even tell you anything about Asa as a character outside how she was back in the first goddamn chapter, despite the fact that she is (or really now feels more like was) our secondary protagonist
>>280043657Woof woof woof woof woof BARK!
>>280043679read the last chapter
>>280043483>That looks like Rosen GartenThe same guy also draws Tenkaichi, another battle manga.
>For me it's unironically Part 1, which is why i think that if a CSM live action ever happened, Bay should be the one directing it. Or Robert RodriguezIt was definitely like a car crash compared to the slower pace of P2.
>He doesn't even read the manga he baits with, he just likes shitting up the threadsI know, but I kinda like the manga so I felt like clarifying what it's really about. Which is just brainless fun, for the most part. Not really something that tries to be edgy or deep in the least.
>>280043585>AsaA worthless character who only exists to take in Denji's cum
>>280043643>>war being stupidThat's retarded. Tactics and technology are what win wars. Even the ancient Greeks understood that as shown by Athena
>>280043784>I know, but I kinda like the manga so I felt like clarifying what it's really about. Which is just brainless fun, for the most part. Not really something that tries to be edgy or deep in the least.I see
Not that there's something wrong in being edgy, btw. It just needs to be sincere
>>280043827War creating technological marvels doesn't change the fact most wars happen due stupid reasons.
>>280037066 (OP)Why does this lesbian have a ponytail? This character is the only lesbian I've seen with a ponytail?
>>280043827Did it ever occur to you that War Devil being partially eaten by Pochita made it retarded and therefore only retains the basic necessities of it's identity?
>>280043858Wars happen for (from the perspective of the people in charge) understandable reasons most of the time. You want oil? Invade your neighbor.
There was literally no point in bringing back Quanxi
>>280043920>from the perspective of the people in chargeWhich are almost always retards as well. Anyways, the understanding of war being stupid is pretty old and bog standard message. Same as ''make love not war''
>>280043679the writing went from mid to trash around the prison arc. and Fujimoto keeps his precious goonerbait in the story when they show no relavance aside from being the final boss, rushing the story not addressing any plotholes. and also how the fandom glazes one character for doing absolutely nothing and bashes part 1 for no reason
>>280043951>posts a literal no-character denji onaholewhat did the rezekek mean by this?
>>280044068They don't think very hard, they just post pictures and it makes them content. Pity them.
>>280044068you have nothing to back your claim because you like a character that is absolutely terrible like a majority of part 2's cast
>>280043643Fujimoto doesn't really seem to try to depict a Devil's nature as something befitting their name completely. A lot of times the only thing that they have in common with their name, is that they have some personality quirk or ability associated with it.
A "Blood Devil" could just as well have been some vampiric edgelord. Instead we got, well, Power.
>>280044068They didn't like this one, proprietor.
>>280044098>you have nothing to back your claimWhat c laim?
>>280044098Nigger you literally posted a character that only existed to flirt with denji, you have no right to judge other people's wafus, kill yourself.
>>280044147cope. asa's character is just completely assassinated. Fuji completely butchered the story assassinated Asa's character and also just glazes asa's toxicity and yoru's actions
>>280044197at least she has a character. The story isnt over btw
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Rezelord easily triggering a Asakek meltdown. Classic.
>>280044236Every thread ever reference?
>IT'S RRRRRRRRR
concession accepted
>>280044246All it took was a single reaction image...
>>280043585I R R E F V T A B L E
>>280044212NTA Reze had more character than Asa did
Reze's character was delivered through subtext. Asa just stands in the background crushing on Denji, and then turns to the audience and says "I.... like.... am no different from everyone else..... wow...." to gaslight the audience into thinking she had depth
>>280044284Holy meltdownoly
>>280044106Power does talks like a feudal lord and wants to suck people dry
She just also happens to be a cute imouto
>Oh boy I would sure love to kiss my waif-AAAAHHHHHHHHHH
Reze vs Asa have to be the most forced, fake and gay shit that ever happened in these threads
>>280041107Ballad of a Soldier is a fucking great film.
Genuine Kino.
Fujimoto has better taste than most of /tv/ KEK.
mitaka_asa reze_(chainsaw_man)
Asa imo is like Nyaan from Gundam Gqux
She's set up as a secondary MC, and then her entire character goes out the window to revolve around a love triangle with another girl (Machu/Yoru) for a guy she's barely talked to (Shuji/Denji). And this is after they bill the character's relationship with said girl as being important only for it to go out the window
>>280044366Source? Googles giving me nothing
>>280041775Yoru and Nayuta are so fucking similar.
It's pretty funny how much they'd hate each other despite being so alike.
Their views on Devils being creatures of instinct are alike as well.
>>280044470Put these tags
>>280044461 in rule 34.
>>280044326Delusional schizo headcanon. You would not be able to give examples because this exists in your head. Reze had absolutely 0 character. She acted like a complete retard (literally, look at what she teaches Denji), she had no interesting backstory whatsoever (just some lame "SHE CAME FROM A PRISON OOOO"), she had no personality besides making jokes about ASS and SEX. And if you don't agree with those points, fine. At the end of the day she still looks like an ugly androgynous tranny freak with awful fucking tranny hairstyle. Asa at least is pleasant to look at. Admit it, the bomb girl design was completely wasted and that is the only reason you give her human form any credit. The bomb girl design is cool but it can't carry such a short arc. Some non-ugly female should have got the bomb girl power.
>>280044465Take your meds, yoshitdogturd
>>280044330Yoru also has a harsh way of speaking, usually yells, and addresses people close to her as "comrades/nakamas",
It's just probably less noticeable in English tl. Maybe it'd come off better in anime with a talented voice actor. She just made Denji stand at attention a chapter ago.
>>280044410I agree but Transze is still a shit and Cutesa is a cute. If these troons simping for this ugly irrelevant character didn't exist I wouldn't have to fight.
>It's another Asa vs Reze war
>>280044661I accept your coffeesion
>>280044492They'd probably hate each other precisely because they are like each other, as Devils tend to do. They're all playing the same game to become stronger than the other. Out of all the sisters, they are the most devil-like.
Although I think Death is also just coping about being more civilized, she is very "devilish" too with her over-indulgence, lack of care about killing masses of people, and the cannibalistic tendencies.
Reverse NTR with Reze watching in the cuck chairโฆ.
>>280044579>Yoru also has a harsh way of speaking, usually yells, and addresses people close to her as "comrades/nakamas",Yoru talks like a general
Power talked in a older dialect
>>280044513Reze's development:
>Reze runs away from the knife guy despite easily being able to kill him>This is because she wants to continue living in the illusion that she's some "normal girl" meeting a cute boy>Knife guy's dialogue here, although unintended, serves to "wake up" Reze to the reality she lives in>This serves to draw a contrast with Denji, mainly in regards to how they embody the country mouse and town mouse respectively. Reze wants normalcy and peace like the town mouse. This is reflected in how she tries to live this "normal life" despite it being impossible for herAll that depth for a character who was only around for a few chapters. Crazy!
Meanwhile Asa:
>Turns to the camera after being a noncharacter for 70 chapters>"Wow.... I'm.... like..... a toxic woman now.....">The story is trying to pretend she had character development when she really had noneA one-arc antagonist has exponentially better writing than the fucking deuteragonist. That's just pathetic.
Good night I fucking hate Reze
Goodnight from me too, I also fucking hate Reze
>>280044732Only one CSM hero sits in the cuck chair and itโs
>>280044745>Being this much of a bad faith faggot
>>280044580Everyone can see it's like 1 retard talking to itself, and occasionally other schizos join in.
Reze vs Asa literally didnt existed until a few weeks ago
>>280044794But... that's impossible... he said he was going to sleep...
>>280044788P has dementia
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/asaden%20rezeden/
>>280044579Yoru originally had an antiquated way of speaking similar to Power, she used the pronoun "Ware" during her first appearance and frequently uses expressions like "methinks" and "trifling".
As Yoru has become more familiar with being Human due to being bonded with Asa, her vocabulary has shifted into being much more casual.
Power also displayed a similar change in her way of speaking.
When Nayuta began living with Denji, she had a very cold and clinical way of speaking that shifted into mimicking Denji's speaking patterns and even his way of laughing.
Denji really rubs off on Devils.
>>280044748The getting cucked competition or the most untreated mental disorders competition?
>>280044745>Makes up headcanon about Reze that doesn't exist. No panel to prove most of what you said. >Oversimplifies entirety of Asa's character. Doesn't give a single actual example. Just overexaggeration and conjecture.Yeah you're retarded. Nobody cares about your tranny freak. The country mouse shit is not that deep. It doesn't make this tranny interesting in any way.
>A one-arc antagonist has exponentially better writing than the fucking deuteragonist. That's just pathetic.You haven't proven shit. You have one extremely boring mild example of Transze. You have 0 examples of Asa. You did not disprove *A SINGLE* one of my arguments. Kill yourself, homo.
>>280044822was that supposed to prove something? its just people talking about multiple ships
>>280044365>Held his head in place in order to get the max amount of vomit inIs this your idea of a waifu?
>>280044872>competitions that Makima and Power dominated out of nowhere
>says he's going to sleep
>TWICE
>actually stays awake malding
You hate to see it
>>280044788>Reze vs Asa literally didnt existed until a few weeks agoThat's just not true
>>280044731I wouldn't be surprised if Death got her cannibalistic tendencies from watching Denji eat Makima.
Their views on consumption are very similar.
She seems to be imitating him to some extent.
>>280044921They were clearly different people.
>>280044921All in his head?
>>280044925You think Makima ever broke out the peanut butter?
>>280044921Are you new? I've spammed that shit like a hundred times. It's just a meme, kid.
>>280044829I think Fujimoto does try to emphasize the fact that she's a rather loud and intimidating woman in various ways. Goofy as she may be to us, because we see all her short-comings, every character usually appears to be scared or atleast worried to be around her.
>>280044925This is not true, right? She died a pure virgin maiden...
>>280044921>two instant seethepliesHe did NOT like being called out
>>280044513If you came home from work (lol) and found Reze lying on your bed, what would you do?
>>280045035Give her coffee
>>280045035Get out of my house, fag.
>>280045035I would escort him out and make sure all my belongings are there
>>280044745>>This is because she wants to continue living in the illusion that she's some "normal girl" meeting a cute boyDid you perhaps miss the part where she's there to assassinate Denji?
Is this Asa's end game with Denji?
>>280045203That's Yoshida Blanco
>>280044881>Did you perhaps miss the part where she's there to assassinate Denji?Yeah, but she saw herself in him
But I guess that's too subtle for an Asafag who needs everything spoonfed to him
>>280045203Better not be, AsaDen is bullshit
>>280044147Asa out of nowhere?
>>280045203she'll tame him
>>280045247Kingshida helping a pleb
>>280045241Better read a different manga then, Landwhale
>>280045234>Yeah, but she saw herself in himWhat? The soviet rape prison cell where she grew up? Where she was experimented on before being sent out to retrieve Denji's heart? Which part of herself did she see in Denji? Maybe being an ugly troon? Not exactly sure what you mean...
>>280045333>Landwhale>implying
>>280044513>Reze: Teaches you how to swim, teaches you how to apply your powers more critically>Asa: Parrots your beliefs like a doormat. Can't think of anything stimulating or challenge your beliefs to improve>You taught me how to how to eat toxic crapburgers and to close my eyes to unpleasant things!
Asa mindbreaks and causes meltdowns, as always
>>280044745This caused another melty
>>280045365>I never went to school either
>>280045203Dark SkinGAWDSโฆ.we won.
>>280044745He hated this one
>>280045365>Which part of herself did she see in Denji?The fact both were hybrids being used as child soldiers by their governments. Denji also reminded her of her dog. Read the manga
>>280045427>Can't think of anything stimulating or challenge your beliefs to improveAsa is literally saving Denji from being mindbroken next chapter, like Denji saved her on the first time
>>280045443it's funny, if their whore was there instead they would be the biggest part 2 defenders, but because she didin't win the denjibowl they are eternal losers seething 24/7
>>280045443>Asa mindbreaks...Asasissies
>>280044410The Asa vs Reze seem to be some form of imitation of the old Power vs Makima discussions, the difference being that it makes zero sense.
I guess people just derive fun from dumb shipping wars, people still fight over Rei vs Asuka 30 years later.
>>280045319He made the perfect match
>>280045551Yes Asa is only defined through a shit-tier romance with a guy she barely knows
>>280045443>Says retarded take>Gets disproven>YOU ARE MELTING DOWN IN RESPONSEThis is just a classic showcase of inferiority in the face of Reze.
>>280045567If you have fun by pretending to be retarded then you're probably an actual retard
>>280045567>The Asa vs Reze seem to be some form of imitation of the old Power vs Makima discussions, the difference being that it makes zero sense.Truly, and it's also painfully obvious it's posted by one guy
>>280045443they hated this one
>>280045427>Teaches you how to swimWow. What a character trait.
>teaches you how to apply your powers more criticallyOh really? A character being overconfident in a SHOUNEN MANGA? NO WAY! Never been done before!!!
>Parrots your beliefs like a doormat>[HEADCANON] like a [BUZZWORD]>Can't think of anything stimulatingWhat character needs to be stimulated exactly? As far as I know there are no autistic characters in this manga. Perhaps you're self-inserting yourself in the manga?
>challenge your beliefs to improveWell there were a few moments in Aquarium, Falling, Aging but I guess we'll just ignore them...
>You taught me how to how to eat toxic crapburgers and to close my eyes to unpleasant things!Random schizobabble. Got it.
So have you added any real canon panels of Asa into your schizo meltdown folder or is it still just photoshopped Asa and short hair Asa?
>>280045583>Asa is only defined through a shit-tier romance with a guy she barely knowsThe same could be said about Reze, because you're discussing in bad faith. Of course that isn't true neither for Asa or Reze or even Power, but of course their relationship with the protagonist of the manga Chainsaw Man will play big part of their characters
>>280045594>it's also painfully obvious it's posted by one guyTrue. He openly admitted to being mentally ill just earlier today
>>280034775
>>280045590>>Says retarded takeAll in your head
>>Gets disprovenAll in your head
>>YOU ARE MELTING DOWN IN RESPONSEAll in your head
Asa absolutely mindbreaks. One can only look at the photoslopped shit you post.
>>280045634Thereโs a difference between having a relationship with the MC, and being defined only by that relationship.
Aki is the former, and so is Reze to an extent. Asa is the latter.
>>280045676lmao how the FUCK is reze not defined entirely by xher relationship with denji, literally all she did was fighting and flirting with denji and then jobbing to angel's lance
>>280045592I don't disagree.
>>280045567the difference being that rei vs asuka or power vs makima actually makes sense and those characters actually met eachother
reze vs asa is just forced by redditors who want to be part of something
>>280045505should Yoru have been dark-skinned too like that one fiend who jobbed out to Pochita?
>>280045721Because Reze tied in with the theme of โignorance is blissโ and town mouse vs country mouse
>>280045761Yes...I said exactly that. It makes no sense.
>>280045551>The fact both were hybrids being used as child soldiers by their governments.I don't think Reze cares much about his devil hunting job but sure
>Denji also reminded her of her dog.That's pretty funny if true. One decent characteristic at least.
>>280045780and asa is tied with the theme of being selfish and standing up for yourself
>>280045817No she isnโt
>>280045844read the manga faggot
>>280045815>I don't think Reze cares much about his devil hunting job but sureHe took interest once Denji mentioned he worked for, and i quote, ''that witch Makima''
>That's pretty funny if trueShe literally says it
>>280045844She is, Asa is a direct parallel of Denji but with the sensibilities of a teenager girl
>>280045780>town mouse vs country mouseIs this gonna be the new meme phrase?
How did the typhoon guy and Makima even know about it?
>>280045874Don't know about Typhoon but Makima is implied to have stalked them all along through the use of her controlled animals.
>>280045870>DEAD pet dogSheesh...
>>280045907she probably killed it
>>280045907>>280045923It's a Kingsman reference, about the part the agents needs to kill their dogs
>>280045874>How Makima even know about it?Makima is listening, read the manga
>>280045775Yes. Make everyone dark.
>>280045904It's the "You're the cheese" line. Not sure what else he would be referencing.
I don't really take this shit seriously anyway. I still consider Part 1 largely a horror comedy manga.
>>280045957>Makima is listeningIs it a power that's actually explained in any way or an asspull. I'm talking about in the reze arc specifically.
>>280046038>Is it a power that's actually explained in any way or an asspullJesus Christ anon. It's literally in the manga
>>280045629>Well there were a few moments in Aquarium, Falling, AgingAquarium:
Reze teaches you everything: Warmly accepts
Asa teaches you fish facts: I'm going to go see Penguins.
Falling:
>Asa: I'm weak and pathetic, I'd rather die!>Denji: I know life sucks, but just consume the crapburgers because there's still something to live for!>Asa: Steal that girl's bike >Denji: Nope can't do that!>Asa: Then steal that guy's: OkayAging Arc:
>Asa: You taught me that you have to eat the crapburgers and keep moving forward!>Denji: You are right, as long as there's girls and grub, I still have something to live for!>Asa: Here is your axe master!>Denji: Time to kill and eat some dudes.>Reze: Denji is kind and willing to sacrifice for her by choosing to run away from his city life.>Asa: Denji stays moving in a circle. Asa instead changes her beliefs for him instead because she's a doormat. Examples:
>Asa: You were right Denji, I should only think about having fun and nothing unpleasant!>Asa: Chainsaw Man is a monster he eats people! >Asa: Here goshujin-sama, my sauce I took from the restaurant! Tell me other things for me to do because my life revolves around you! I only get a sense of purpose from you!
>>280045870>Asa is a direct parallel of Denji but with the sensibilities of a teenager girlShe started as that. Then Fujimoto assassinated her character.
>>280045970That's sort of how Fujimoto sees it too, atleast when it comes to gag scenes, those are not meant to be taken seriously.
If he has to sacrifice some logic, or consistency in a character's story-telling, to make what he thinks is a funny joke, he'll do it any day of the week.
>>280046073>moves the goalpost>it becomes even more retardedI accept your concession.
>>280045775Once Asa dies and Yoru takes over her body, she will turn into a stereotypical gyaru slut
>>280045817>Asa: standing up for yourself>Yoru, Denji, take my college funds, my apartment, my shoes, my self-esteem, my dignity! Whatever you need in your stories, I'm there to help!
>>280046063I was simply asking a question. No reason to be a faggot.
>>280046146A question that is central to the plot, you really should read part 1 if you havent
>>280045963Which girl would look the best with dark skin?
>>280046135100%, see picrel. She had no other option but to take control away from Asa in order to get dicked. Her next armor upgrade will probably be a black lace thong or bra.
>>280046136>mentions all the things Asa did in a selfish way or because she didn't stood for herselfWay to miss the point
>>280046108Asa does not have any real desires or goals. She is a plot device whose character changes based on what is convenient for Denji and nothing else
Asa is not a character she is a prop
>>280046193Reze
Power
Kobeni
In that order.
>>280046063How the fuck can Octopus do that?
>>280046073>Asa Mitaka: The story of how you devolve from a direct parallel to a sidekick!
>>280046160Aren't you the same guy that always whines about there not being discussion but you turn people away trying to have a discussion because they either missed or forgot a very minor part of a 6+ year old manga? Just a yes or no I'm not interested in your retarded arguments
>>280046224Octopus is the best contract in CSM
>>280046251>makima's powers reveal>minor partRead the manga faggot
>>280046213>Asa's fantasy: I am Denji's blade!>Reality: I am Denji's doormat!
>>280046286Yes that particular power is a minor part.
>>280046196>Darkskin Mexican PowerMy new headcanon
>>280037066 (OP)>cliffhanger>into break weekcanโt wait for tuesday
>>280046237She returned as the main pov last chapter, and that's why you're so mad now
>>280046765>She returned as the main pov last chapternta. But not really, until we see a scene of hers without Denji we can't really say the pov has returned as the main pov.
>>280046353A doormat would be completely passive in any case and she did jump to save him, Asa is more like Denji's dog.
Schizos killed the thread...AGAIN
>>280046917>Woof, woof, Asa wants bellyrubs. She saved her master again!
>>280046994DOGsa and DOGru!
>>280046886Most of Denji's current scenes have either Asa or Yoru sharing panel time.
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>Welcome home, Denji! I made steak, your favor-... huh?
>You're... not staying? You just came to grab stuff? Why?
>... oh. You're spending the night at one of your fangirls' place? That's g-great, Denji. And she's hot, you say? Like, "way hotter than m-me"? Hahah... how lucky.
>... have fun. I love you.
Asa isn't dying because she's 'Chainsaw Woman', she embodies the same themes of endless persitence in the face of adversity as Denji does, the parallels she has with him exist for a reason. She is a traumatized teenager with no support that constantly has her wants and needs exploited by figures of authority seeking to gain something from her, yet in spite of suffering she clings to life due to the promise of a better one. Every single decision she has made in the story was to survive, despite having increasingly good reasons to off herself. Her current predicament is very close to the figurative "A tiger above and a deadly fall beneath, but a delicious strawberry on the branch that she holds on to." where the strawberry seems to be Denji, aka, the promise of love, Denji is also in a similar situation.
People that think that Asa will die because Aki did greatly misunderstand both characters.
>>280047040Yeah but we see Denji's thoughts extensively, Asa hasn't had that since Falling.
>>280047013>Awaken, my brothers, rise from the ashes!>Denji's in trouble again, and we must save him, no matter the sacrifice!>Tiramisu, Creampuff, LEND ME YOUR POWER!
>Transzeturd off his meds again
>>280047057The worst part is that Asa would actually look like that while saying that
>>280046994You jest, but Asa's entire motivation throughout Prison is exactly that, that's the whole reason behind the whole "save Chainsaw man" thing.
>>280046886So you hate AsaDen. Well me too. But let's be real, he's still the series' protagonist, the story or Asa will still need to associate with him in some ways, just like how Denji also need to involve with Asa, the other Protagonist.
But that still doesn't mean they'll end up together tho, cause Denji only loves savage women
>>280046765>She returned as the main pov last chapter,OOH, it's my lucky day! Denji said it's my turn to do something! And I already know what that something is! THIS HEART STILL BEATS TO SERVE DENJI-SAMA!
>>280047267>So you hate AsaDen.Eh, partially? like the idea, dislike the execution.
Asa will still need to associate with him in some ways, just like how Denji also need to involve with Asa, the other Protagonist.
Doesn't feel symmetrical, Denji has plenty of scenes that are just about him. The whole battle with FSM had absolutely nothing to do with Asa.
Aki managed to have scenes about him and many that had jack to do with Denji throughout the entirety of Part 1. It's not like Asa is devoid of traits that do not connect with Denji, her morality per example is entirely about her...it's just that the story doesn't really care to show her perspective on things, since Church it has been that way with no signs of changing.
>>280047267>So you hate AsaDen.Eh, partially? like the idea, dislike the execution.
>Asa will still need to associate with him in some ways, just like how Denji also need to involve with Asa, the other Protagonist.Doesn't feel symmetrical, Denji has plenty of scenes that are just about him. The whole battle with FSM had absolutely nothing to do with Asa.
Aki managed to have scenes about him and many that had jack to do with Denji throughout the entirety of Part 1. It's not like Asa is devoid of traits that do not connect with Denji, her morality per example is entirely about her...it's just that the story doesn't really care to show her perspective on things, since Church it has been that way with no signs of changing.
Why didn't Asa take over to help save the woman? Denji wanted help there, but she stood by. Maybe she was jealous.
>>280047107>My only reason to live is Denji's love?>I really am a pathetic doormat, but even so, even so, if Denji's allowed to live, so am I! >Everyone needs a doormat to welcome guests into their home!>That's why the two of us can overcome anything together!
>>280047425>Denji has plenty of scenes that are just about him.Asa had scenes of only her too
>>280047537>MaybeSo you're not sure?
>>280047677>Asa hadEveryone must have forgotten about it in no time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLojMGNEJ1M
So, of these two savages, who Denji still loves more to this point? Imo it's Makima
>>280047769Denji thinks about Reze, Denji doesnt think about Makima
>>280047769he sees a lot more than just two girls nowadays
>>280047769His mind has been overrun by Makima's words, this is way more than love
>>280047677Recently?
What really stings is her lack of interaction with Yoru, Asa went from being torn over killing a single person that she thought was a scumbag and recently Yoru used her body to kill THOUSANDS of innocent people gleefully, she betrayed her, went back on her word on giving her back her body (Asa's entire objective) and threatened Denji with weaponization, breaking yet another of their deals. How can Asa even be comfortable around Yoru? exchange words with her so casually? on the other hand Yoru seemed sad that Asa feared her, was that just manipulation? why can't we have an interaction between these two regarding ANY topics? scratch that, why can't we have any interaction between them AT ALL? For me that's a billion times more interesting than anything that has happened in the past 20 or so chapters.
Now, Asa did mention these things in a very handwavy manner...while talking to Denji...of course...and when Yoru takes over...she only cares about Denji.
>>280047769And the reason he didn't think of Makima' in Aging flashbacks was because he avoided to think about her, who he still loves the most and thus still gives him the most pain until now
>>280047677Recently?
What really stings is her lack of interaction with Yoru, Asa went from being torn over killing a single person that she thought was a scumbag and recently Yoru used her body to kill THOUSANDS of innocent people gleefully, she betrayed her, went back on her word on giving her back her body (Asa's entire objective) and threatened Denji with weaponization, breaking yet another of their deals. How can Asa even be comfortable around Yoru? exchange words with her so casually? on the other hand Yoru seemed sad that Asa feared her, was that just manipulation? why can't we have an interaction between these two regarding ANY of these topics topics? scratch that, why can't we have any interaction between them AT ALL? For me that's a billion times more interesting than anything that has happened in the past 20 or so chapters.
Now, Asa did mention these things in a very handwavy manner...while talking to Denji...of course...and when Yoru takes over...she only cares about Denji.
>HOW DARE YOU ASA TELL DENJI TO KILL US AND TRY TO RUIN MY EVIL PLANS!
>Oh, wait, Denji doesn't care, especially, not as much as my buttjobs! MUHAHAHAA. ASA YOU REALLY ARE PATHETIC, JUST STAND BY AND WATCH AS I DO WHATEVER I WANT WITH YOUR BODY!!!
>>280047868More proof for him still loving Makima, his wanting to be CSM so bad in part2 was because Makima loved CSM. Yes, Denji is still trying to become the ideal man of Makima' lol
>>280047838It was just manipulation on Yoru's part in order to be able to finish the job on Pochita.
She wants people to fear her, but in Asa's case that turns into an inconvenience for her.
It's possible for the other party to be "unconscious" while the other one is in control. That's how Asa had her conversation with Yuko, without Yoru's interruptions.
Ch. 200 sort of implied that Asa just "zones out" now when Yoru takes over, out of self-preservation.
>>280048021>It was just manipulation on Yoru's part in order to be able to finish the job on PochitaCool, even if it was, show it, have the characters interact about it. Asa thought of Yoru as a friend and she stabbed her in the back ten times over.
There is even the pressing question on why Yoru hasn't killed Asa yet, which is absolutely something Asa should/would be questioning. From Yoru's end, Asa is once again being disobedient, if she had more guts or if she was any slower at dodging the chair, as far as the characters know she could have died. If Asa dies, War respawns in hell with no memories and Yoru's plan goes completely to shit, you'd think that would be an important topic for her to address.
Again, SHOW IT don't just imply it, implying this is dogshit. Why would you imply the more emotionally weighted moments in the story? that's like just implying that Aki gave up on chasing Gun Devil because he couldn't bear losing Denji and Power.
>>280046960KIIIIINNNOOOO THANKS ANON
>>280047943Forgot pic. See, After the end of part1, Denji knew what kind of man Makima loved, and now in part2 he's trying so hard to become that 'man'. He still loves Makima till this day, Reze is the second, while Asa is never on his interest list sorry
>>280048275>Cool, even if it was, show it, have the characters interact about it. Asa thought of Yoru as a friend and she stabbed her in the back ten times over.Agreed, but for whatever reason, it seems Fujimoto wants to post-pone the conflict for now. I do think it'll happen but it feels like it's on ice because the rest of the story isn't where it needs to be yet.
>There is even the pressing question on why Yoru hasn't killed Asa yet, which is absolutely something Asa should/would be questioning. It did sort of get proven early on that Yoru's probably just bluffing about that, as she didn't do anything when Asa refused to obey her multiple times. Yoru is obviously more dependent on Asa than she'd be willing to admit. She's also had a bit of build-up as a Devil who requires others' attention and is willing to create bonds even with other devils, as long as they act subservient to her.
I do agree that more of this stuff should be shown to the readers but Fujimoto seems to be hell-bent on experimenting on what he calls his "techniques" of conveying things with minimal dialogue and exposition.
>>280037066 (OP)ITT: We say how old we are, i will start 27
>>280048517It did sort of get proven early on that Yoru's probably just bluffing about that, as she didn't do anything when Asa refused to obey her multiple times. Yoru is obviously more dependent on Asa than she'd be willing to admit.
Explanations can be plentiful, in and out of the narrative, but what really matters here is the caracters perceptions and from Asa's perception she should absolutely be questioning why Yoru is keeping her alive, as it seems to be just to torture her and/or to get high on her emotions. If Asa doesn't react to it, she loses believability as a living, thinking being within the narrative.
>I do agree that more of this stuff should be shown to the readers but Fujimoto seems to be hell-bent on experimenting on what he calls his "techniques" of conveying things with minimal dialogue and exposition.I'm very skeptical to say that these problems are due to his "techniques", especially since they seem to affect Part 2 and specifically Asa's character the most. Denji has plenty of moments of introspection, he had a very lengthy reflection over the handjob and we saw all of it, even recently he pondered if he's about to get screwed over again because "a dangerous lady likes him".
>>280044745>>Knife guy's dialogue here, although unintended, serves to "wake up" Reze to the reality she lives inNever realized that. Makes perfect sense.
>>280048517>It did sort of get proven early on that Yoru's probably just bluffing about that, as she didn't do anything when Asa refused to obey her multiple times. Yoru is obviously more dependent on Asa than she'd be willing to admit.Explanations can be plentiful, in and out of the narrative, but what really matters here is the caracters perceptions and from Asa's perception she should absolutely be questioning why Yoru is keeping her alive, as it seems to be just to torture her and/or to get high on her emotions. If Asa doesn't react to it, she loses believability as a living, thinking being within the narrative.
>I do agree that more of this stuff should be shown to the readers but Fujimoto seems to be hell-bent on experimenting on what he calls his "techniques" of conveying things with minimal dialogue and exposition.I'm very skeptical to say that these problems are due to his "techniques", especially since they seem to affect Part 2 and specifically Asa's character the most. Denji has plenty of moments of introspection, he had a very lengthy reflection over the handjob and we saw all of it, even recently he pondered if he's about to get screwed over again because "a dangerous lady likes him".
>>280048021>Ch. 200 sort of implied that Asa just "zones out" now when Yoru takes over, out of self-preservation.That wouldn't make sense because she quickly reacted when Denji was put in distress.
Remember when Fujimoto forgot about Reze? lmao
Will this get a season 2?
>>280049087surely he replaced her existence with something of value
Reminder Asa is always an angel. Not Denji's favorite type, savage women tho
>>280048842>I'm very skeptical to say that these problems are due to his "techniques", especially since they seem to affect Part 2 and specifically Asa's character the most.It is partially that, because he obviously expects the reader to take in a lot of information from just Asa's expressions. He spent such a long time on Asa early on because he wanted to establish her personality and ways of reacting to the reader, so that they'd be able to make "reads" on her later on in the series when she's no longer receiving such a heavy focus.
The problem is that's a lot easier to do in a movie than a manga format, especially when his art has suffered quite a bit from the early stages.
She has a lot of established "cues" for what she's feeling, and what her actual intentions are behind the words, and Yoru is to some degree a tool she uses to impose her will at times, but it's not really subject of debate that people are interested in.
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>>280049249If thatโs not a man Iโm not interested
>>280049038She did have a building tossed at her prior to that though. I think that'd wake anyone up from a nap.
Not saying that she wasn't conscious the whole time but it did get established that one consciousness can be "asleep" while the other is active.
>>280049246To me, that's bullshit.
You absolutely can convey a character arc through visual storytelling, and that can be found in characters like Aki. Fujimoto simply did not do that with Asa.
>>280047868>And the reason he didn't think of Makima' in Aging flashbacks was becauseI think Denji understands that Nayuta is Makima. There is no point in looking for Blood 2 or Conquest 3 if he thought otherwise.
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>>280049347why are you gay
there are too many fags here, no wonder everyone left
Why does Asa shave her pits?
>>280049405He did do it when the art was comparable. But when the art fell off, so did his ability to convey things through that medium. Less innovative paneling, less detail on the face to convey expressions, just less effort in general, which ultimately makes the reader care less also.
Aki's story is also pretty a "safe" bet compared to running with a character like Asa, it's one of those stories that's been done a million times and the template pretty much always works.
Fujimoto never really mentions the character because I think he knows that he wasn't exactly inventing the wheel with that one.
>>280049692But, I've seen so many doormat heroines that only live for the male protagonist's approval. Asa had potential before that, but she's become something easy to write.
>>280049689I'm more surprised she decides to keep her unibrow, than her shaving her pits. Must want to compete for being the most beautiful girl in Reze's village.
>>280046903how about cuteko?
>>280049692convey feelings through expressions*
Denji could have easily been a top tier private devil hunter; made bank and get all the hoes he ever wanted.
next chapter spoilers https://youtu.be/_g19fCJotPc?si=I2HPvToIxxQ8m22R&t=164
you pissed them off, /csm/..
>>280050304you are forgetting he's got no ambition or drive
that's what's wrong with all these darn kids nowadays *sips*
>>280038589>posted the embedded image in the old yoru thread>hates yoruThis anon is the one who made the OP with the so called embedded image and then got really mad because nobody uses the 3rd party script needed to see it. That was hilarious.
>>280050304>Denji could have easily been a top tier private devil hunterHe is a top tier devil hunter
He couldn't open a private company because he's a high schooler though
>>280040512When will Power stop being dead?
>>280050664What thread?
>>280050683<10 chapters
>>280050683The answer is Lebowski
>>280050664shouldnt that be reze on the right?
>>280050763War wants to get Nukes back, it makes sense it would be Asa there
>>280050783she needs some scars then
>>280050695>What thread?I did not bookmarked it. It is the Yoru thread with an Yoru OP pic but the image quality is shittier than the unedited pic because there was apparently an image attached to it.
>>280049753You want your favorite girl to be Denji's doormat tho.
And being an angel who sacrifices for other people's lives, which your evil savage waifu can never become, is not a doormat either. But don't worry, Denji will still love your waifu tho, because he loves savages anyway
>>280050613>Damn right, I'll drink to that
Reze and Nayuta will return.
>>280050914>Reze and Makima will return*Fixed
>>280050888This dude was one of the only fun Part 2 characters
I wish they brought him back
>>280049692Asa isn't some groundbreaking character, even back when she was well written.
She's a somewhat antisocial loser who wants to do the right thing despite having a demon living inside of her.
>>280037195Nobody on /a/ watched about the anime, they just bitched about a few webms.
>>280049692>Less innovative panelingThis was never a thing lol. Fujimoto copies Hollywood movies and comic books.
>>280050876>And being an angel who sacrifices for other people's livesOnly Denji, like a good, obsessed doormat. When she could have helped the save the older lady that Denji caught, she instead did nothing.
>>280051016I watched the anime, that's how I got into the manga
>>280050664You mean the anon who noticed it and sperged out at the end of the thread? that wasn't me, i only checked the thread after i got back from work, by that time it was archived.
Power : DEAD
Makima : DEAD
Asa/Yoru : ALIVE
>>280051146no, it was definitely the yoru poster samefagging. everyone just laughed at him for being pathetic and went to the next thread
>>280050962And how many antisocial, goody two shoes female losers with a devil living inside them have been depicted in manga? Let alone an action shonen manga like CSM?
The solemn, melancholic vengeful guy is dime a dozen. It's just easier to pull off in a way that appeals to readers, that's why the trope is used so often.
>>280051075Regardless of where he took his inspiration from, it was more innovative stuff than now and served its purpose in making people care about what's going on.
>>280051168I was that yoru poster, it wasn't me, i only came back to my house at 8pm
>>280050828why are you schizos always esl
>>280051297NTA, 60% of the posters ITT are iberoamerican
>>280051297Why are you so affected by it?
>>280051364nta but if you're going to speak English then you should speak it properly
Real ones still Stan FumiDen
>>280051232Yuji Itadori is the same archetype you just mentioned, except male and with a different personality.
You can sugarcoat it however you want; sheโs just a poorly written character.
>>280051439Your rage is very entertaining.
>>280051439>does not even know what punctuations are.LOL!
>>280051439They hated this one jefe
>>280051942it would be "punctuation is"
>>280051961That anon is the boss of ESLs.
>>280051995>there is only one kind of punctuationLOLx10^1000!
>>280052026spend another year in ESL class
Sad and pathetic Yoru haters should be gassed.
>>280051107Civilians in CSM world just drop like flies everyday, what can Asa do then? At least she never actively murders them like Den's other vicious women, no wonder Den couldn't like her, not his type for sure
>>280052714Yuko should've lived longer
>>280052053When is she gonna stick her stinky feet in his face and make him take a whiff?
>>280052053Low ranking they are.
>>280052074>picThey don't make the villains like they used to
>>280053236In five chapters when the current threat is completely defused for more handjob chapters
>>280053927yoruden season is done, this is asaden season
I guess Denji will have to settle with Asa&Yoru.
>>280054211There is no competition until reze arc v2 for the movie
>>280053853They don't make villains at all, one is after cock and the other after food
>>280054905Literally nobody...
>>280044898>waifuHimenofags are just gross.
I care about Rem.
I am in love with Emilia.
Why did you niggas make another thread... shall we not bump it anymore? You know how.
>>280055412bump or don't bump these threads aren't a general because generals are banned on /a/
>>280055412>shall we not bump it anymore?You first.
i wanna talk about chainsawman!
Are there any fanart of Pochita fucking the girls here?
>thread was dead during the period THAT incident took place in THAT board
Yeah I'm noticing alright.
>>280056006Stop blog posting. Nobody cares about your personal life here.
>>280056006Can you give us your deduction detective?
>>280056107Seething cause you got exposed huh?
>>280056139"you" who, Schizo-kun?
>>280056132There was silence, boss.
>>280056772Hire a new detective, STAT
>>280051016it's true i didn't watch it
some anons say it has tons of makima ass shots so maybe i will
Asa love is so powerful it makes schizos go full loony and spend hundreds of hours in photoshop mocking Asa and saving interracial porn of the character they hate so much. Truly the most mindbreaking character of all time.
>>280056936Not really, it's bullying and humiliation for the sake of feeling powerful, or in control. These kinds of people lash out at any chance they get, it's just how their brain got wired. What's important to consider is that Fujimoto is the same, he get's off on belittling Asa and he will keep enabling this behaviour, you're stupid to argue against it, interacting with them is what they want.
>>280056936You don't have to lie anon, i know you love seeing Asa take black dick
>>280056979>What's important to consider is that Fujimoto is the same, he get's off on belittling Asa and he will keep enabling this behaviourJesus Christ this fanbase has some of the densest individuals I've ever seen.
Asa gets treated like a fucking porcelain princess compared to most Fujimoto characters.
People over here acting like she's Fami or Kobeni when the truth is she's closer to a Mary Sue.
>>280056979>he get's off on belittling Asa and he will keep enabling this behaviour,Because she's a boring, pathetic doormat who will continue to accept her bad treatment. Even if she changes by the end, it won't be satisfying enough seeing that in the last 5% of the story.
>>280057169Compare Asa's treatment to Denji's. Enough said.
>>280057213I tried as hard as I could but I can't refute this
>>280057213Loss of agency is a core part of Asa's character writing. Is she really a doormat for trying to save Denji? Did you think she was a doormat when she tried to save Yuko? She's boring to you because Fujimoto refuses to let her show herself in the story, her breakdown happens off screen, her development happens off screen, he is more concerned with writing a story for Denji, not Asa. So take your frustration out on the right direction, instead of turning to Asa.
>>280057122>Jesus Christ this fanbase has some of the densest individuals I've ever seen.Yeah, I'm seeing one in action
>>280057257Don't give a shit about what happens to him.
>>280057272>replying to xerhelf
>>280057335>I'm looking at the Asa in the mirror. She's telling me to be more selfish! Time to stop closing my eyes to unpleasant things, and become the Asa I want to be!
This is the YoshiAsaschizo btw
>>280057373All in your head, right?
kishibe was a net negative, pining after some lesbian whore devil while killing makima
>>280057310Asa has Yoru absorb the blow for nearly all of the gags, stupidity and morally wrong choices. Her reasons for helping Denji is so that she won't feel indebted to him for being saved, while also exorcising a malevolent demon possessing her.
Meanwhile, Denji has been made out to be a literal dog for people since day one, being the butt of the joke at nearly every turn, even used as a damn stool by people, and his motivation for all of it is primarily that he could feel up some boobs.
Asa never ever has her misery made fun of in the same way as Denji, Kobeni or Fami or another character like that.
>>280057459hypertrvke at 491 so asatroons will pretend not to see it
>>280057459We already know Denji is the butt of the joke who only lives for shallow desires and get's clowned on and deservedly so. He's a pathetic dumbass who runs around in circles. Unfortunately Fujimoto dragged Asa around to be Denji's cumrag. Imagine being the servant to the most pathetic loser in manga.
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>>280057547We need someone to put those mongrels in their place
Dissociative identity disorder
>>280049246And I strongly dislike this direction for her character.
Instead of using Asa as a narrative anchor point, she is being treated as this "elusive magical creature" for the sake of propping ambiguity and mystery surrounding her actions and motivations. It's almost as if we're seeing Asa through the eyes of another...and that would very likely be Denji's, further supported by the fact that we still see Denji's inner monologues, and as much as I wouldn't like to see it that way, it's hard not to think that this is due to AsaDen.
This kinda sucks because it carries the implication that her character exists entirely in function of another, again, this wouldn't bother me at all if Aki and Denji weren't different, especially Aki. In laconics, in recent writing it feels like Asa is effectively being treated as "the good human side of Denjis girlfriend" while Yoru is "the bad devil side".
This idea of "putting a veil" on her character to prop speculation from the readers kinda falls apart at the seams when you consider that lots of situations that were "obscured" are completely new to Asa herself, such as dropping out of school(presumably), fighting monsters, becoming a celebrity then a terrorist, getting grievously injuried etc.
Kinda circles back to the initial argument and why I haven't been particularly fond of AsaDen, for both Denji, Asa and everyone else. My greatest (c)hope is that eventually the "POV" will return to Asa to tackle things like her chicken dream, which presumably reflects the her darkest hour that can only really exist from her perspective. It would royally suck if Fujimoto keeps this "outsider's perspective" with Asa through stuff like the aforementioned chicken dream, dealing with Yoru and Death, a poor decision to rival big lebowski itself.
>>280057547>Imagine being the servant to the most pathetic loser in manga.grim
>>280057657no one cares about that boring bucky shit we want to see FIGHTS
Aaaaaaand the transzenigger woke up and is spamming his headcanon again
>>280057806>seething asaschizo the reze movie will obsolete part 2
Asa and Yoru won the Denjibowl.
>>280057257>>280057459You're focusing too much on the character's reputations and overlooking the greater picture.
Denji's misfortune and poor treatment is always depicted as undeserving, tragic and the people that treat him as such are always depicted as evil, shortsighted and ultimately incompetent. Despite on the surface making Denji look like a foo, the story celebrates his suffering and uses it to placate the power fantasy elements of Denji's character, like the whole "greatest devil hunter" thingy.
In contrast Asa's suffering is largely ignored, she is being cheated out of her relationship from the guy she spent the entirety of Part 2 trying to save by the woman that she saved him from. Asa never has big triumphant moments like Denji has either and barely anyone in the narrative cares about her, she can't be a mary sue.
>>280057657Asa is not really intended to be "purely good", there's plenty of selfishness and self-delusion behind her actions, but the CSM fanbase is honestly too fragile to discuss it, preferring that she be written as a purely good superhero instead, whose actions are always portrayed in the most favorable light, or otherwise they throw a fit.
For example this thread is filled with people crying about Asa being Denji's doormat/servant when it's clearly her who has brought Denji along this crazy ride they've been on in order to feel good about "saving him", as well as the objective of getting rid of Yoru. Every single request Denji actually made to her, Asa denied or acted unhappy about.
And when Denji strayed away from her plan, she willingly brought out Yoru to enforce her will due to feelings of frustration and jealousness.
This sort of "savior complex" has not been portrayed as a good thing throughout P2, it led to the doom of Yuko and plenty other Fire Devils victims, Fami is also another "caricature" of misguided empathy that has deadly consequences for others.
>>280057906>she is being cheated out of her relationship from the guy she spent the entirety of Part 2 trying to save by the woman that she saved him from.That's pretty funny. She should turn herself into Super Asa camera so she can make a photo album for the trashy lovebirds Yoru and Denji. That's she can bring meaning to her life.
>>280037296Me on the right (after HRT).
>>280058426You're very cute anon