IF I LOSE IT ALL

>>280050470 (OP)
I'm retarded can someone explain why and how was his character assassinated?

TEN YEARS AT LEAST

>>280050532
No! I don't want to do that! Even after this thread dies I want this question to be on the front of your mind for awhile! 10 years at least!

>>280050532
>character's defining trait is otherworldly determination
>after sacrificing everything for his entire life he gives up as soon as he can win because ???

>>280050532

>>280050532
From chapter 1 all the way to chapter 123 Eren was resolved. His entire thing was "I just keep moving forward until my enemies are destroyed"
he fought, trained, sacrificed, put himself through hell, saw the future where he would kill billions, still chose to move forward. He chose to use the power of the founder to unleash the wall titans and start flattening the world, and the last thing we see or hear from him is him stating (via PATHS) is that he's going to kill everyone to protect Paradise, his home, and all of the people he calls friend and family. And he actually does it. He marches across the oceans and kills basically all of humanity, destroys the vast majority of their cities, crushes their women, children, sick, elderly, even the little babies were crushed.
Chapter 137 it was revealed that it was actually all an elaborate plan Eren has been secretly enacting since way back when he first saw the future. The plan is that he'd make himself into a villain so that his friends would stop him and be heralded as saviors of the world, which would unite all of humanity and the eldians against him, and then make them all friends after his death.

>>280050470 (OP)
RUMBLING
RUMBLING
IT'S CUMBLING
RUMBLING
RUMBLING

>>280050984
What fucking order am I supposed to read the left side ?

>>280051009
>Chapter 137 it was revealed that it was actually all an elaborate plan Eren has been secretly enacting since way back when he first saw the future. The plan is that he'd make himself into a villain so that his friends would stop him and be heralded as saviors of the world, which would unite all of humanity and the eldians against him, and then make them all friends after his death.
Although this is a copy paste of Lelouch's Zero Requiem, why exactly is this bad ?

>>280051081
>Although this is a copy paste of Lelouch's Zero Requiem, why exactly is this bad ?
Because they didn't copy and paste the context. The setting and situation is all different with an entirely different character helming the plan.

>>280051081
Because it's tacked on to the plot of The Eternal Champion

What a man you are!

>>280051135
not only this, but Lelouch actually achieved his fucking goals and went out like a man with a smile on his face rather than crying about how CC better not fuck another man or something before a flash forward to Nunnally's descendants getting nuked

>>280051729
>Nunnally's descendants
Anon... Nunnally was crippled from the waist down. She couldn't bear children...

>>280050532
It wasn't. Only /pol/tards here think that.

>>280052126
Not with that attitude!

>>280050470 (OP)
BRING ME BIRDren

>>280050470 (OP)
Great op thoughever.

>>280052547
Shut up tranny

A YOUNG WARTHOG

ereh...

>>280050532
I really hope this is a troll/bait post. The main character who swore to destroy the enemies who threaten his people, and killed his mother, literally the pillar concept and premise of the manga, ended up revealed to be a madman who just wanted to kill foreign enemies for the sake of it, and to that purpose he was the one who actually killed his mother. In the end he wasn't even able to realize why he, himself, did all that. And you ask how the character was assassinated?

>>280050532
anon, we saw his inner monologue and a couple chapters later he proceeded to do the opposite of what he said he would

>>280050470 (OP)
Rumbling felt like one of the last time an opening was a real popular event, the last few years have been dire

>>280050532
He wasn't the heckin titan hitler I wanted him to be therefore his character was assassinated
also EH is canon

why did he let his friends interfere? couldnt he have just put them to sleep, finished off the rest of humanity, and the ending for his friends is still the same.
i feel like maybe isayama wrote himself into a corner and couldnt think of a good way to resolve titan powers and what to do with eren after the rumbling ended

>>280055349
Eren has no agency, he's Ymir's slave in her fan-fiction.

>>280054955
>In the end he wasn't even able to realize why he, himself, did all that
hatred begets hatred without logic needed on the dude feeling the hatred
50 dollars

>>280055307
totally in character for eren to willingly lay down and die for no explicable reason

I still don't understand if Isayama chickened out on allowing Eren to win because he thought people wouldn't get that what he did was bad, or if his editor forced him to make Eren into the big bad because he was becoming too edgy in the second half?

>>280050470 (OP)
SNEED ET AL

>>280055565
isayama doesn't think what eren did was bad, that's why he purposely wrote the rumbling as the only possible solution to paradis's possible annihilation. the ending is just him tucking his tail between his legs and making bullshit up/retconning because he probably felt bad about his own moral compass based on the image of the rumbling he had in his mind since he was an edgy teen and felt the need to smooth it over

>>280055599
That, or he felt the logical outcome was too predictable so he curve balled really hard, but overdid it.

>>280055635
>>280055599
you could have eren "win" and everyone would be happy about the ending

>>280055635
it always felt like aot was about twists and turns but the one constant was that eren was always gonna be a stubborn cunt that refused to die. i mean, that is literally his only character trait... his first encounter with death was to refuse to die in impossible circumstances. not the smartest thing to reverse that within the last 2 chapters

>>280055705
But he had to live so Mikasa could cut off his head and kiss him, thus making Ymir break the curse.

>>280055786
ymir becoming an actual character hurt the series bad

>>280050532
He was 100% right but the author cucked out and wrote him as a cuck. Just to prove he was right all along in the epilogue chapter showing his homeland getting the B2 bomber treatment.

>>280055930
But she didn't become an actual character, she was just a schizo shipper.

>>280055534
>hatred begets hatred without logic needed on the dude feeling the hatred
You're completely missing the point, and on purpose. First, that's retarded bullshit. The inhabitants of Paradis have good reasons to hate outsiders, given how outsiders hate them and tried to kill them. Not saying Eren's actions were justified of course. But hatred IS justified and logic in some circumstances. But most importantly, the reason the character was destroyed, Eren's actions were revealed to have been out of his will alone, it wasn't because outsiders hated him and invaded his land. It wasn't because he wanted to save his friends. He did the rumbling because he didn't want humanity to exist outside the wall, he just wanted to mass murder people for no reason. You morons defending this trash are ridiculous.

>>280055967
>You're completely missing the point, and on purpose.
oh no you're getting me wrong, I was trying to assume what Isayama was trying to think
>You morons defending this trash are ridiculous.
bro come on man don't do me like that i swear to god

>>280055599
>>280055635
>>280055645
He watched Avengers and got soft and normgroidfied
"Let's go save the world"

For me it was Reiner sniffing the letter.

>>280056061
Bring me Historia's letter.

>>280056125
and you could have it all

>>280056222
its violence was one of the lsat things I've enjoyed about aot

I was halfway through making a compilation of every isayama comments from after the ending (since all the blogs that gathered his public appearances stopped toward the later post Timeskip Or post ending) but kinda lost interest
He certainly did appear a number of time from late 2022 to early 2024. Has been very quiet since however
I think almost everything has been posted on /a/, just need to dive through desu archive...

>>280050555
>10 years worth of cum

>the entire series happens because of a 2000 year long woman moment
BRAVO. POWERFUL. GIRLBOSS.

>>280057724

>>280054955
>The main character who swore to destroy the enemies who threaten his people, and killed his mother,
the titans and he did

>>280055010
lmao saved

>>280052126
Britannian medicine finds a way

>>280050470 (OP)
I just reread the marley arc to the end and my opinions are still the same. Both sides were right in their decisiom to destroy the other.

>>280057724
My slave, Ymir, is very cute!

>>280050532
>Mikasa is my annoying sister
>So annoying
>Just shut up, leave me alone
>You're just my sister
>So annoying
>Annoying
>OH MY GOD I LOVE HER SO MUCH, I WANT HER TO BE MY WIFE AND EVEN IF I DIE I WANT HER TO THINK ABOUT ONLY ME FOR TEN YEARS
And no, I don't ship him with Christa either

>>280057724
KING Fritz

>>280058228
He was the coolest guy...

>>280050470 (OP)

>>280057724
the scene of Eren convincing Ymir to break free from her mental slavery is my favorite moment in the whole series. and then it gets utterly ruined in the final chapter. what a cocksuckingly awful ending

>>280057920
It's the motives for which he did it that destroyed his character for no reason! Retard. He was portrayed as reckless and immature, sure, but as a main character who wanted to destroy the titans for the threat they pose, and because they killed his mother. Not once the manga makes you think he did simply out of bloodlust for foreign individuals. Chapter 131 instead completely rewrites the character for no fucking reason at all.

>>280050532
People who started in part 2 didn't realize "Le based chadren" was Eren being out of character, and part 1 Eren in the end scared them.

>>280058217
This, I will never fucking forgive Isayama for trying to pretend like Eren's cared so much about her all along

>Captcha
KLJPN0
For example, If I told you...

why did she make /a/ seethe?

>>280059490
blatant mary sue really

>>280059490
I forgive her, the "fan-art" we got thanks to her was incredible.

>>280058370
>the title of that chapter ties back to the title of first chapter making it seem like Eren was the one Ymir waited for all along
>SIKE! IT WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT MIKASA ALL ALONG!
Still the biggest bruh moment for me...
>>280059490
If anything nips seethed harder over her, calling Isayama "Gabiyama"... all without noticing his boner for Armin...

>>280055120
>inner monologue
What was it?
>he proceeded to do the opposite of what he said he would
Which was ?

>>280059490
She made everyone seethe, not just /a/. Because she's an insufferable brainwashed little bitch who doesn't question anything Marley say. At least Eren chose his own path (heh), and the people he wanted to kill. Gabi just want to kill the islanders because Marley told her they're evil and must be killed.

Anon...what a man you are

>>280059490
Because she's amazing, like Annie, and that triggers the degenerates and losers.

Annie!!

>>280050470 (OP)
Nice, been waiting for a good SnK thread. I recently updated my orchestration of The Rumbling.
https://voca.ro/183nvkpL9x6d

>>280060391
It's impressive that you're still working on it. But I still don't want to listen to it.

>>280050984
I know a pretty smart co worker who told me this was a "fitting ending" to the series and he liked it

>>280050470 (OP)
Eren almost made the manbun be not-gay but ruined it in the end

>>280060391
That's cool anon!

Annie!!

>>280060808
...is shit.

Annie is a cold blooded killer. She takes pleasure in crushing people as if they were insects.

>>280060833
Is perfect.*

>>280061004
Those people tried to kill her first.

You guys will never let it go uh

>>280061082
10 years, at least

>>280061073
Titans weren't people according to what they knew back then. She could have just taken their gear off.

>fan reworks end up being more over-the-top and fail to deal with the core issues of the conclusion
>all couldn't even finish properly
I expected better.

>>280061004
Remember Marco. She's a fucking psycho but gets away with it because she's hot.

>>280057724
>>280058263
>>280058370
the ymir falling in love with king fritz thing is so ass-backwards retarded, i feel like only a woman could've written it
like isayama's editor has to be a woman or his girlfriend or someone took the pen, it's so awful it loops back around to making sense and i find it absolutely hilarious

>>280060536
It looks like that coworker of yours is not as smart as he appears.

>>280061436
It doesn't change the fact that they tried to kill her first.

>>280058605
Character progression? In my manga? No, I don't want that.

>>280061121
>I don't want readers to move on after reading my manga! I want them to keep seething about it, for 10 years at least!
Isayama won.

GODmin

>>280062274
Armin should die. He's a useless character that had all his wins handed to him. He isn't worthy of being commander.

>>280062052
This is what Isayama won.

So was the panel released months before the final chapter, the "you are free" holding a child; was that just a meme?

>>280050787
>>280050555

Reminder that if you agree with Floch you agree with Zionists

>>280060808
>>280061073
I fapped to Russian pornstar who looked like her

>>280062692
It was Grisha. That panel was a fucking mistake btw, the baby daddy drama made every thread unusable, even during the final chapters where it was clear that that plot point was going nowhere it still took up half the thread

>>280062806
I don't need to know about your degeneracy.

>>280062806
Name?

>>280062895
>>280062929
Duality of anon.

>>280050470 (OP)
Today I will remind them

>>280063197
A grim reminder

>>280062692
It was released years before the final chapter actually. And no, it wasn't a meme, but official by Isayama. The panel still appears in the final chapter, but 'not' as the final panel though. Either Isayama lied since back then, or he changed his mind.

>>280063197
I don't get what's all the fuss about? He always loved Mikasa didn't he? He just tried to distance himself from her.

>>280062806
sauce?

>>280061872
It's pretty realistic, he massacred her whole village and is the highest ranking male she ever saw, sought after by every women she knew, plus gave her kids. Only in a male fantasy she as a heroine would've rebelled or even be disdained by him

>>280059490
Forgiven too easily, like any Mary Sue

Gabble Gabble Gabble

>>280050532
The real truth is the creator / writer was forced to change his ending by the elite.

>>280055574
CHUCK AND FALL

>>280063197
the threads here were dogshit. too much shipping. rest in piss

>>280056061

Does anyone have a collection of Vocaroo Anon's shitposts?

>>280050470 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4fn4dTvNYQ

>>280065486
Kek wtf

>>280063546
it's a total character assassination, anon
and it goes against key themes in the manga.

>>280063546
Throughout the manga, Eren’s character is defined by his relentless drive for freedom, encapsulated in "keep moving forward." However, in the infamous scene, Eren’s emotional outburst reveals a selfish, possessive side that contradicts his supposed growth. This moment, where he breaks down to Armin, portrays him as emotionally stunted, unable to accept Mikasa’s potential future without him, clashing with the idea of moving forward with maturity and selflessness.

The series emphasizes breaking cycles of hatred and achieving freedom through sacrifice. Eren’s plan to initiate The Rumbling was framed as a tragic necessity to protect his friends, yet his fixation on Mikasa’s romantic future feels petty and out of character. It undermines the grandiosity of his actions and the theme of self-sacrifice, making his motivations seem trivial and personal rather than noble or complex.

The scene’s melodramatic tone, with Eren’s tearful rant, felt tonally dissonant from the series’ typically intense and philosophical style. Fans expected a profound resolution to Eren’s arc, but his whining about Mikasa’s future came off as juvenile, reducing a complex character to a caricature of a lovesick teenager. This shift fueled the meme culture, as fans mocked the line for its exaggerated delivery.

Plus, Eren’s motives for The Rumbling were already controversial, seen as poorly justified or contradictory to his earlier ideals.

>>280058217
>she worships the ground he walks upon for the entire story, would have melted into him at the least sign of affection
>he spends years and years acting like he barely cares about her
>ackshually, he was madly in love with her all along
Probably the least believable thing in the entire story.

>>280050470 (OP)
>like both SNK and Jojo
>get nuked with two of the worst manga endings in the same year

>>280066097
>Jojo
Was part 8 that bad?

>>280066097
What happened with Jojo?

>>280066173
It had to be, I barely hear anyone talking about JoJo these days unless it's referring to the early anime seasons

>>280062002
Character progression =/= equal becoming a different character

guess the author was right, and people will talk about this shit.
at least for 10 years

>>280066650
>there is no way he could become a different character during the timeskip!
Eren isn't an actual character now anyways. Just a tool for Ymir to make her fanfiction come true and get over the child rapist love of her life. Absolute garbage.

What a mong. Cut ton into completely safe tenpai, you retard.

>>280064944
It's not like Isayama could stop himself either with Armin and Annie needing to share an ultimately pointless flirting scene together on the boat while tons of people are being squashed at the same time.

>>280066799
The fact that ou had to exaggerate to the degree of not even being accurate tio the story pretty much shows you started with part 2

>>280067939
>exaggerate
>>280057841
>>280055307

>>280060808
>Bert had to watch Mong plap Annie’s crystal-preserved 16 year old cunny from Paths
grim

>>280050470 (OP)
>mfw lost it all

>>280063546
He loved her as a sister, without a doubt. But there was ever a hint that he loved her as a woman? I can't seem to recall any such instance. Eren's "speech" in the final chapter concerning Mikasa came out of fucking nowhere.

>>280068175
Almost like...
>isayama sucks

>>280068026

I liked the part where reiner went from
>holy shit I just want to die please fucking kill me let me die in place of the kids I don't deserve to live I have caused so much death please
to
>snnniiiifffffffff...oh yes my dear....sssnnnnnniiiiiffffff....quite pungent indeed....jean get your horse face away from my letter your stench is ruining the aroma......sssssnnnniiifffffffff
in a little over a year

>>280068477
It could be a coping mechanism... right?

we finally reached it

>>280068536
I would be willing to cope and believe that if it weren't for the cracking jokes part. He is directly responsible for a good chunk of the deaths of innocent people jean knew personally. I can buy them working together but there is no amount of time and apologies that can mend that relationship back to "lol horseface".

GAHAHAHA ANNIE'S EATING PIE!

>>280068712
leave her be... annie... has fought enough...

>>280068669
He caused hundreds of thousands of people to die, after he and Bert broke the wall the people ammased in the inner wall, and half the population died of starvation, or in the "mission" to retake the walls, including Armin's parents.

>>280050532
You look and this and tell me how people possibly couldn´t take him serious anymore.

>>280050532
I don't know why but at the end they needed to justify genocide to make the writing consistant but chickened out.
I don't agree with it but the floppyflop we ended up with just made everything bad worse.

>>280059490
because people got tired of the whole "she's just like eren" when she was nothing like eren. eren was not racist against non-eldians for no reason he wanted to do everything possible to avoid the rumbling. gabi started out a passionately bigoted racist who eventually got her views not only confirmed as right by the end, but she got to live and be vindicated as a hero who "saved the world" from the evil island devil eren who it was always her mission to exterminate in the first place

>>280059490
Annoying Mary Sue

>>280050532
Eren and his situation were well written and everyone understood why he was going full scorched earth “well I don’t agree with his methods, but I understand why he’s doing them” is what normies were saying going into the rumbling
Isayama got pissed people were on board with alliance and so he butchered Eren’s character at the last second to be a complete cuckold that wasn’t free and just a slave to a little girl with Stockholm syndrome for her slave master husband
>pic related, mfw Eren’s speech in paths vs the last chapter

The epilogue should have been
>All the remaining "heroes" are executed by the surviving Marleyan troops at the end
>Mikasa runs away with Eren's head and falls down a crevasse, she breaks her leg and dies of thirst
>Flash forward shows tree growing in the crevasse as Marleyan refugees build a city next to it

>>280069759
But... ]MINNA!!!!

>>280069759
oh yeah why did marley or any of the other counties let the paradisians live and produce spawn for ~100 years? 80% plan retcon makes no sense, it just put them all on a certain track to future genocide. i don't understand people who think it was a lelouch ending, if it was eren and his "friends" are the dumbest people ever. eren even said before the ending "my mission is to trample the earth until the people of paradis are all that remains of human life"

>>280050470 (OP)
>AHH I WANT TO GET KEKED MIKASA PLZ KEK ME AHHHHHH

I'm convinced a lot of mangaka caught a brain worm during the pandemic because the endings to big manga we've gotten since 2021 have almost universally been shit. Not even slightly shit either, like intentional self-sabotage kind of meltdown.
The worst is still Oshi no Ko, but Attack on Titan is up there.

>>280059490
I like Gabi because I realized what she was meant to parallel thematically and it made watch her journey fun

>>280065486
I didn't watch the last seasons. Is this Eren's theme?

>>280068964
often times you'll see people defending the ending say something like:
>the only reason you don't like the ending is because you wanted Eren to be le based Hitler!!
brother, he was 100 times worse than Hitler. the ending was so bad that a lot of people don't even process the fact that 80% of the human population was violently murdered, with the reason given being "lol I dunno", and the reaction being Armin calling Eren the coolest guy for it
the consequences of the rumbling and the tone of the interactions between the characters after it happened were fucking retarded beyond belief

2bkasa

>>280068026
Degenerate

>>280066173
>>280066195
Jojolion was pretty good for the first half but there were cracks showing themselves. Second half falls off a cliff. Starts with two filler chapters and a bunch of contrived nonsense that is in no way hinted at anywhere prior. Main villain is introduced like twenty chapters before the ending and was also never hinted at ever. Main jojo also gets an even worse deus ex machina powerup than Jotaro. It’s so bad Arakifags only defense is to tell you to watch a video where a guy jumps through hoops to defend the manga. TLDR: araki forgot x100

>>280070123
Lolikasa, uoh

>>280066173
>>280066195
JoJolion is a story about breaking a curse

>>280070282
Lolikasa is a wonder of nature

>>280050532
I never understood the whining. Eren was always an emotional sperg, but then he's suddenly a stone cold son of a bitch and and I was supposed to think it was normal?

>>280070502
Prime wife material

Don't worry anons, we still have to see the next chapter to look forward to. I think it will be kino as fuck, especially after all the build-up so far. Right guys?

>>280070644
>suddenly a stone cold son of a bitch
>suddenly
the story is non-chronological

>>280070644
That's like least of the worries. Chadren shit is projection most of the times. god forbid that people hate how everything that's has happened from Grisha taking the founder to his mom getting killed was pinned on Eren. even that wasn't enough and he had to get turned into buckbroken slave of a girl with Stockholm syndrome.

>>280050915
But he won, his objective was to free mankind from the titans, dying was the only way to achieve that

*gets away with everything*

Does anyone have that picture a draw anon drew with various snk meme characters sitting around a table? I accidentaly deleted my old folder and I can't find it in the archives. It was after the last chapter of the manga I think.

Why are people like this?

>>280072432
Here you go.

Marley was right about everything

>>280050470 (OP)
Did anyone buy the idea that "Ymir was in love with Fritz" wasn't just a complete last-minute retcon?

>>280073009
You're fucking based anon, thanks a lot!

>>280073009
This passes for humor?

>>280073042
R A B U

>>280073235
It's just a compilation of various snk memes, it's not meant to be funny, just a time capsule.

>>280065265
Here.
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/234830820/#234851719

>>280065265
Oops, here it is.
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/223247018/#223247810

>>280073619
reminder that he voiced Eren in the 1st chapter of aotnr that was animated

>>280073694
Really? Kek.

>>280073694
>aotnr
Do I dare ask what this is?

>>280066173
Jojo overstayed it's welcome over a decade ago.

>>280050787

I really, really, REALLY like Gabi

>>280074095
Have you seen some certain videos from a certain animator or do you want to remember Gabi as she is in the story and not lewd her oo much?

>>280073872
non-smut EH collaborative western doujin with a story diverging in the last chapters of snk.

>>280074160
So like a fanfic of people asshurt about the ending and their favorite ship being sunk?

>>280074200
It's cringekino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW8aD1m9X48

>>280074095
GABBLE!

>>280074159
>certain videos from a certain animator
s-sauce please?

>>280061004
Isayama kinda forgot he made her do that.

>hisu lost so hard nobody even dares posting her

>>280055645
You could also have eren "lose" and people would still be happy as long as he actually stayed consistent and fought until the end instead of being forced by determinism or "lol i forgot" or Ymir or whatever the fuck and then crying about his oneitis. If Eren earnestly tried to wipe out everyone for freedom and got defeated, most people would be satisfied, instead we got a retarded 80% plan that was always destined to happen for no reason at all.

>>280074444
The artist's name starts with the letter D. You're a smart guy you will figure it out.

>>280074159
I like to consider those videos canon. They're based off Gabi's gigantic ass from episode 1 after all.

>>280054678

>>280074475
Historia being pushed out of the story is the only thing I'm still genuinely upset about.
A pregnancy subplot that wasn't a plot at all, instead a plot device.
No exploration of her character concerning her motherhood or involvement in Eren's genocide.
No dialogue during timeskip except in flashback, just sitting in that damn rocking chair.
Farmer so irrelevant that not even the post-series guidebook gives him a name, or actual face design.

I miss /snk/, how many of you are still around?

Favorite titan?
>>280075088
10 anons at least.

>>280075088
beeren schizo, reporting

>>280075088
I've been checking /a/ for /snk/ daily for years.

>>280075208
Piku!

>>280075038
While I don't think Eren as the father was ever actually in the cards, I do think the author probably originally had some other ideas for Historia that got abandoned when he started getting burned out and rushing to the ending. Same as how the Mikasa/Hizuru thing went nowhere. He didn't want to spend another 5 years drawing to fully develop all plot threads so a lot of stuff not integral to the main story just fizzled out and there was still enough going on that most casual readers were unbothered by it.

>>280060536
Because it is

New promotional art

>>280060808
I can't get over the insane Jew hook nose she's got.

>>280050470 (OP)
I couldn't listen to the OST for a few years after learning about the ending in the manga

>>280069943
I still don't know if Aka stopped giving a shit, or set out to ruin Oshi no Ko on purpose. It honestly wouldn't take much that salvage that ending, sunk ships aside.

>>280060808
Everybody likes Annie, even if they claim otherwise. She's consistently in the top 10 for popularity

>>280072186
the extra pages show that his actions were meaningless

>>280077922
It was too coherent to be bad on purpose, you can tell that what he was going for was sincere, it was just a miserable failure. The real question is whether he stopped giving a shit at some point or just never had the talent to tell a complete story well in the first place.

>>280072186
>his objective was to free mankind from the titans,
he freed 80% of mankind from their lives, so I suppose you could consider that a sort of success if you're an insane person

>>280078173
>The real question is whether he stopped giving a shit at some point or just never had the talent to tell a complete story well in the first place.
Both.

>>280073619
Thank you me bruddeh

>>280074095
there's this screenshot of her by the lake where she looks exactly like Eren but I can't find it.

>>280072550
Imagine thinking some who talks like this is unironically cool and not an edgy faggot.
>>280063197
Post more screencaps of that day, please

>>280074475
I dare

>>280079298
Why is 9/11 in the background?

>>280066173
>>280066195
Yes.

>>280068536
i wonder what /a/'s reaction was to that fire punch page

>>280060808
why did she kill seany and bean

>>280066173

>>280050470 (OP)
It's great how the ending turned everything else in retrospect into a joke. Can't ever take this show seriously again.

what you guys don't understand about Japan is that they are perpetually cucked as a nation and have been since WW2 ended.
That's why they have to go on and on about forgiving their enemies, being pacifists, and making peace even against people who want to murder them.
This all goes back to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Japan had to grit its teeth and surrender despite the destruction of their cities and the deaths of tens of thousands, not to mention the fact that they got demolishing in the war.
Their nation was directly then indirectly subjugated and forced to just "drop it" and as a result, they experienced unprecedented growth, but even to this day they are not allowed to have a military capable of aggression, only defense.

This national stance on surrender, forgiveness, and peace has bled into the cultural zeitgeist and shows itself in their art and their behavior, in this case their Manga and Anime. A few series break from this trend but most of the more popular series always include some kind of pacifism, forgiveness, and antagonists-turned-allies.

>>280079652
>tooru living in the same town, wearing the exact same outfit, doing the exact same thing for at least 80 years. all without visibly aging a day
It just gets better and better the more you think about it

>>280079651
For the lulz

>>280050470 (OP)
>retcons
lmao

(Y)EH will always be the original and true ending.

>>280050470 (OP)
Took me a while to realize it's at an angle and he doesn't have a super thick neck

3dmg was cool.

>>280059490
She had too much plot armor.
Do you know how many people and kids died in this series? It was a LOT.
Gabi was a character in a place where everyone would reasonably want to kill her, and she inexplicably survived. More, she was actually pulling off headshots like no-one's business.
Hell even all the other kids except Falco died horribly.

>>280055010
i still jack off to takapiko's mikasas to this day. since 2016, ten years at least.

>>280050555
TEN YEARS A CVCK

>>280075208
Did MAPPA do a better job in the later seasons with the cgi? I haven't watched them yet.

>>280081021
It could be a real thing soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqYHEM3ndnQ&t=310s

>>280079245
That scenery...

>>280050532
It's just bunch of EHschizos

My cute wife lolikasa...

>>280060391
That's dedication anon

>>280066097
you forgot
>Miura died shortly after and Berserk will never be completed by his hands

>>280074475
Still mad what he made to her.
Until the day I die and even after it!

>>280050470 (OP)
SNEED AND FEED I WILL NEVER POST AWAY

>>280075088
Sometimes I partecipate in the threads. Depends on the mood

>>280076664
I can listen mainly to season 4's stuff, because I'm far less attached to it since it is "new" and wasn't really used properly. But the first 3's ost are kinda hard to listen to.

>>280050787
Kek this fucking bitch lelen

Any of you has the image version of this analysis?
https://web.archive.org/web/20211024180225/https://survey-corps-potato.tumblr.com/post/647987861034008576/armin

>>280080209
This was the pic that made me think: "Eren is gonna be a father by the end of the story and he'll complete his mission unlike his father, also fulfilling "surpass the father" arc that Isayama talked in his interview".
And that was a long time before Historia was revealed pregnant, I expected Mikasa to be the impregnated one after the timeskip.
Silly me should have known better than to trust Isayama's interviews, he has been contradicting himself for years.

>>280085581
>I am never getting invested in another manga again.
My same exact reaction to the SnK travesty. I used to read lots of manga, always watch anime. After that garbage, and Miura's death too, i barely read or watch anything.

>>280086830
I don't have a particularly large sample size, but pretty much every Japanese creator other than maybe Tomino is just full of shit in their interviews.

Kneel before your king (although I guess he's technically a prince-consort)

>>280087482

>>280068026
Cuckholt btfo

Imagine foursome

>>280087942
Hahaha, I knew you would show up! Be honest how good did you feel when the final chapters were revealed?

>>280087977
Mina should've lived

Canonical foursome

>>280064787
The Gabi Gang lives!

Sex with Lynne!

>>280079298
You know, for a show where everyone wears pants there's a real lack of butts

>>280088347
One of the reasons it got so popular in the west. We don't like fan service, it takes us out of the grim storysetting.

Bow to Chadmin.

>>280090289
I haven't stood up for 4 years! Please let me stand up again Chadmin!

Gangbang Gabi

>>280076480
That's not Jean

If Historia was a real queen she would marry some prince for political relations but nope she got with her childhood bully.

Let's be honest erehisu was obviously meant to be canon until isayama changed the ending

>>280091505

>>280054955
Look how disappointed he was.

>>280088196
GANG GANG!

>>280091836
>>280091693
never beating the allegations

>>280091693
Yep.

Horse-dono, Mikasa is waiting.
Farmer-sama, Historia is waiting

>>280091693

Man... Floch was so based man
the ending spoiler was on my birthday too...
4 years since then...
why did Isayama do it, bros?

>>280092878
I did the edit cause it was funny, I don't care about ships, I just make fun of the shippers.

I want anti-EH so it was fun watching you lot get BTFO. The manga already was going to hell with the cringevengers.

>>280093705
Silence. Both are for Chadmin.

>>280079196
here it is
>>280088196

>>280092424
cute war criminal

>>280094172
Turbo cute

>>280093868

>>280059490
She killed my waifu

>>280054955
>In the end he wasn't even able to realize why he, himself, did all that.
The Worm likely had ulterior motives of its own, warping Eren and Ymir with desires to devastate humanity that is paradoxical in nature as they can't explain where these desires came from. The manga ended too fast before we got proper Worm lore.

Would you eat Shingeki crepes?

>>280076480

>>280094664
>we get more EM material in ads than we ever got in the manga/anime
Sasuga Isayama...

>>280094862
>>280094664
Do people still care about snk? Do these ads actually do anything?

>>280094939
SnK is still a massive merch money printer in Japan

>>280051009
You are mixing it with Code Geass. The part about unifying the world against him doesn’t exist

Birdren merch

>>280095239
So Birdren isn't actually Eren?! Just a drone?

>>280050470 (OP)
there are alot of people who identify with eren who got mad when he failed in the end. They didnt realize that his logic was flawed and they think its unfair that he lost even though he pretty much brought it on himself.

Basically alot of people are retarded.

>>280095668

>>280095684
>calls other people retarded
>is a retard himself
Why is this so common? Eren didn't lose or win, he is just a plot device, a non-character used by ymir to get over her lover, that's what people are mad about.

>>280077961
will you buy her figure?

>>280095909
Any good posable figures of her?

>>280068151

>>280096017
There's a Revoltech one releasing soon

>>280050470 (OP)
he lost it all
slipped and fell
he looked away
he lost it all, lost it all, lost it all

>all i ever wanted to do was the right thing
>i never wanted to be the king
???

>>280091693
You lost EHcuck
All you can do is cope in every last snk thread

>>280096116
Looks cool, but I wish there a human form one too. Someday they will do it I hope.

>>280096392
Wouldn't it be funny if the Farmer also married Mikasa?

>>280091693
EH is still canon in the sense of an undeniable mutual romance. That said, knowing Isayama I can see how he always meant to blueball the audience. Historia's faces with the farmer indicate first a disappointment with being rejected by Eren and months later a complete contempt with where the world and her life went. I'm sorry, but picrel is not the face of a girl pregnant with the seed of her lover longing for his return. The hard red pill is that Isayama always intended to screw over the reader.

>>280096937
I've seen people cope that she was only unhappy here because she "was a lesbian." And not because, you know, the person she proposed to have a child with was out there risking his life to protect her, and didn't even let her stop him.

>>280051081
As the anon said:
>>280051135
It's a completely different situation. There's 0 reason for him to not do the full rumbling.
It's a pure W for Eldians.
There is no downside and the only alternative the story presented was Zeke's euthanasia plan (even if retarded) which was null and void once the rumbling started.
Then the alliance that made 0 fucking sense.
Then the massive plot-hole of Eren being a God yet his move is going with his retarded "plan".
It's all dogshit on so many levels I don't even know where to start, but I can with confidence say, that SnK last arc is THE worst nosedive among the hundreds of manga I've red over the years.

>>280096937

>>280097409
So was it just for political reasons?

>>280088090
True

>>280088012

>"I couldn't decide between genocide and Historia"


.............What a good friend. Why was he so autistic about Historia though but not about his other friends whom he tried to kill?

>>280096937
Eren is also the only person who stood up for Historia, when everyone else wanted her, without saying a word, to take the beast titan. And even though in the end Eren's motives were completely butchered by that retard Isayama, Eren's actions actually saved Historia's life, against the lives of billions. It was either they got the power of the coordinate through Historia or the word was destroyed. How good would have been if Eren did that because he chose the latter to save her. I was never completely convinced EH was real, but i did hope it was real. Instead we got that horrible trash writing.

>>280098726
Funny how she became completely irrelevant after this
Was anyone outside of 4chan even remotely bothered by her character after the timeskip? I remember back when S2 aired people were so excited about the *totally canon* lesbian representation and girlboss girl power, and then in S4 she just randomly appears pregnant by some dude out of nowhere and spends the rest of the series sitting in a chair

>>280087434
Some day, people will be able to admit that Miura himself was part of the problem with Berserk.

>>280097469
retconned reasons

>>280099360
What problem?

reminder that this is 1:1 GoT ending

>>280099494

>>280099533

>>280099533
mankasa

Lolikasa is a cute!

>>280099533
>>280099566
What the fuck, man. (((D&D))) ruined even more than we could ever imagine.

>>280051009
That sounds a lot like Dune's Leto's Golden Path. But gay

>>280099952
I would laugh so hard if this is the farmer.

So what was Isayama trying to do making Mikasa some Japanese princess? It's not like it was some unplanned thing, Mikasa's tattoo was hinted at in like volume 1.

>>280100873
just to show her asian ancestry, which made her different than the others and connected to the outside world, not necessarily because she was a princess, i feel that was added in later lol. her being an exotic princess AND invincible ackerman kinda didn't help with the mary sue allegations

Just sleep already anon.
It was shit and it's over

>>280050470 (OP)
If he saw the future and knew he was the one who killed his own mother then why the fuck did he make that big speech and blame Rainer after knowing it was his fault?

>>280096412
There's an Annie RAH that's kinda hard to find nowadays.

Isayama is still young, has he said anything about what he wants to work on next or in the future?

>>280101242
>it was shit
Only near the end.

>>280101489
>1000$
Holy fuck.

>>280101242
>Just sleep
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>280101619
Top tier though

>>280101759
Kek that creepypasta eren face always cracks me up.

>>280101759
cutest best friends

>>280050470 (OP)
>>280063197
Today I will remind them

>eren to mikasa before 137
https://vocaroo.com/12PqZO86dyaj

>>280101581
He said he has no plans to write another series. All he has worked on since SnK ended is that very short Levi bonus chapter, and provided the art for a random one-shot written by Yuki Kaji to promote his vocaloid software.
He's already extremely rich, so not much incentive to return to the full-time manga grind.

>>280050470 (OP)
SLIP AND FALL

I slightly missed you guys. What a time

>>280050470 (OP)
oh sick!

>>280050532
No character assassination eren literally stay the same person from beginning to end

>>280103236
It was fun watching it all unfold with all of you.

Posting perfection

>>280050470 (OP)
I think people take fiction a bit too seriously at times.

>>280103469
Oops, wrong picture!

>>280103619
Carly is a sketchy woman I don't trust her

>>280103616
Where do you think you are?

>>280103641
Annie trusted her, that should be good enough!

>>280103705
Annie is still young, she can make mistakes when it comes to trusting people.

>>280103925
But she didn't take advantage of Annie despite her age so she's cool!

>>280103425
In retrospect, watching it all burn was at least memorable.

Lolikasa is a true miracle.

>>280104185
I know what's best for Annie, trusting Carly isn't it.

>>280104279
Super mega cute

>>280104293
>I know what's best for Annie
You're Mr. Leonhart, aren't you?

>>280104461
I am indeed.

Zofia should have lived. She was very cute.

>>280104624
It was a nice detail on Isayama's part that her legs were spared when she was squished, but I would have preferred it if she lived to be Gabi's friend

>>280099748
It's like the golden path but if Leto decided to suicide himself at the last second and while he was falling into the water he was just like "ah, why did I oppress people? I can't remember..."

>>280104525
You better not lewd your daughter Mr. Leonhart or I will have to alert the authorities!

>>280105070
Annie is for raising with love and care.

>>280094664
>>280094755
Yay, Levi x Hange!

>>280099488
Miura’s perfectionism and hands-on approach slowed Berserk’s production. His intricate artwork, while a hallmark of the series, led to inevitable delays. Naturally this annoyed fans, and it's why there were so many jokes about "when is Guts going to get off the boat?"
iirc, he also admitted to not having a long term plan, which no shit, led to a narrative that had no endgame.

Look, I love his early work with Berserk. However, limiting the involvement of assistants and editors was ultimately a mistake. And past the initial arcs, Miura was like a dog chasing a car. Even if he ever got to the car, what was he going to do? Who knows? What am I supposed to get out of reading Berserk? Wow, that sure is violent. That horse made a funny face. Wow, she sure got raped. Wow, he was on that boat a long time.
I'm just so tired of mangakas that clearly just cling to their golden egg and have no idea how to wrap up a story.

>>280094862
...what are Levi and Hange wearing?

Sex with Annie

>>280105724
Die

>>280105528
Ask >>>/fa/

>>280106006
Calm down joseph

>>280105518
>iirc, he also admitted to not having a long term plan, which no shit, led to a narrative that had no endgame
That's blatantly false. He said that he used to have everything planned out since the beginning. But then he realized that he preferred changing things here and there as he went on. And it is pretty much clear if you re-read everything in one binge, that a lot of things, such as the merging of the physical world with the spiritual, were planned out since very early. And the notion that after decades he still didn't have an endgame plan sounds extremely stupid to me.
Also, i don't think the delays in the last 10 years before his death, from 2010, were due to his perfectionism. Since he used to be pretty much consistent with his schedule for more than 20 years since the beginning. There had to be other personal reasons i think. But regardless of that, i don't think anyone has the right to call out an author if he doesn't want to keep going anymore. It is true that suddenly taking a slowed schedule, or even stop altogether doesn't sound very fair to the fans who have been reading for years, but in the end the author is a human being. As unsatisfactory as it may be i think it is far better to have a masterpiece remains unfinished, rather than taking shortcuts or someone else trying to finish it like those pieces of shit at Hakusensha are doing right now. It should have been the same for SnK, if it had to end like that it would have been much better that it never ended, that something happened preventing Isayama to keep going. At the very least fans could have keep dreaming of a proper ending.
>What am I supposed to get out of reading Berserk? Wow, that sure is violent. That horse made a funny face. Wow, she sure got raped. Wow, he was on that boat a long time.
If that's really all that you managed to get out of Berserk i think you should be pitied.

>>280095719
How can you not ship Levi X Hange?

boAAt sex is canon

>>280106084
You shouldn't use peoples names on an anonymous forum

>>280051729
I mean sure but his plan was just as dumb. He play acted the part of a genocidal tyrant to make everybody hate him, then expected everything to be hunky dory after he assassinates himself

>>280106218
Kill yourself

>I'm forgotten

>>280050532
Author went with the Lelouch route.

WOW
JAPANESE
FANS

>>280106311
> expected everything to be hunky dory after he assassinates himself
No, he expected humanity to make their own path and strive for a better future rather than being trapped under the boot of Charles or Schneizel. He didn't believe in perpetual unchanging world peace or seek to alter human nature, he died for actual human freedom. His plan was infinitely superior to Eren's both in thought and execution, also didn't die moaning like a bitch about getting cucked.

>>280061004
DAHAHAHAHAHA

>>280059490
She killed Sasha.

>>280050470 (OP)
SLIP AND FALL

>>280107803

>>280103619
>>280104185
what did she look like in the manga?

Cute hisu

I want to FUCK Hange, Mikasa, Sasha, Ymir, Historia, Hannah, Annie, Ymir Fritz, Rico, Anka, Carla, Pieck, Dina, Alma, Mikasa's mom, Lara, Louise, Lynn, Mina, Caven, Nanaba, Nifa, Yelena, Frieda, Petra, Gabi, Zofia, Sandra, Hitch, Ilse, Kaya, Kiyomi, and Abel. I want to FUCK them so FUCKING bad.

>>280110595
Who are Anka, Lynn, Caven, Sandra and Abel
Also you included Hange (nonbinary) but not Yelena (female).. kinda gay

>>280055010
kino

LMFAO

>>280110502
Show Mikasa