Thread 280088801

Real thread, remember to watch the extra shorts

>>280088801 (OP)
Animeonly, I guess one big controversy is the pretty boy having combat abilities he isn't supposed to. My question is, what exactly is the Midnight Poet supposed to do? Why would anyone choose it over the others? Does it give you something useful? Is Leonard powerful or not? Why did King Isekai regret his power choices?

>>280088897
Do zoomers actually think all animation is "anime"?

>>280088913
Donghuaonly whatever man that shit will never catch on

Rough baby-making sex with Susie

>>280088801 (OP)
First for Taiwan supremacy

>>280089031
Who? I like that mystery dream rapist lady.

>>280088897
>Why did King Isekai regret his power choices?
Stuff for later volumes, like beyond chapter 1000

>>280088897
The sleepless pathway has authority over sleep, dreams, and later on spirits, darkness and concealment. The evernight church has the full sequence formulas for the sleepless pathway, so people working for the church have a clear road to advancement over time when they get promoted, compared to Klein's seer pathway which the church only has sequence 9 for and therefore he has to figure out the others by himself if he wants to advance. As for your last question, that's a major spoiler.

>>280088801 (OP)
Incomprehensible Production Quality
Drawn in by the promotional material, I watched the first episode and found it to be a steaming pile of garbage. I sincerely recommend they scrap it and start over. (I'm not asking for it to be on the level of Demon Slayer, Jujutsu Kaisen, or Dandadan, but at the very least, it shouldn't be this laughable ).
The storyboarding, screenwriting, and sound-visual coordination from this animation's creative team are all-around terrible.
Because the visual storytelling and storyboarding are incompetent, they try to rely on character dialogue to move the plot forward. However, the dialogue is completely haphazard, failing to establish Klein's character or convey his psychological state right after he's been transported to this new world. It feels like the screenwriter just randomly snipped a few lines from the original novel to compress the plot, without any regard for narrative coherence in this adaptation. Perhaps they only intended to make a "fan-exclusive" piece of fan fiction? Assuming that the fans will just fill in the blanks themselves?

>>280088801 (OP)
>post in English
>video has no English subtitles
Or am I just retarded and don't know how to navigate twitter?

>>280089059
Melissa

>>280088801 (OP)
Subbed and available for torrent on nyaa.si, when?

>>280088897
>The Darkness Pathway has powers related to the night and sleep. They gain strength during nighttime, can pacify and host souls, enter others' dreams, cast area-of-effect sleep spells, see in the dark, and suppress their enemies' moods and desires.
>At High-Sequences, They can create domains from darkness, bring the death to others by the horror and repose, create realistic dreams, shift a certain area under the state of secrecy, erase or hide things, bestow misfortune upon others, be an immortal within darkness, and become an embodiment of their corresponding authorities. Their authority embodies Silence, and Darkness.
Balanar/Night Stalker from Dota

>chinese dub
why are y'all even watching this?

>>280089063
Susie is a the rich girl's dog.

>>280089059
>>280089134
Audrey is better in this illustration, but the animated Melissa design is far superior.

>>280089059
Jewel of Loen...

>>280089059
Why this Ojou sama showing us her cleavenge?

>>280089110
This leads to the main character's behavior becoming so illogical it's comical. For example:
For the entire first night after arriving, the protagonist shows no surprise, there's no internal monologue to explain his identity, and he doesn't carefully observe his new surroundings. Instead, he spends the whole night reading the original Klein's notes but gains zero useful information.
【The audience is seeing everything from the protagonist's perspective at this point, so the amount of information the audience gets is also zero.】
Then, dawn breaks, his sister appears, and the protagonist finally opens his eyes to look around, notices bloodstains and a pistol in the room, and starts covering up the evidence.
So, as a newcomer, how does the protagonist face his new sister? The answer is, he acts completely familiar with her, with no nervousness or anxiety. He suddenly pulls out a 【pocket watch with no previously established context】 for his sister to fix, accompanied by some sis-con-esque inner monologue complaints.
【The protagonist's perspective suddenly becomes omniscient, while the audience is left completely baffled. How did you know the watch was broken? How did you know your sister could fix watches?】
The protagonist's 【over-familiarity】 and 【omniscient perspective】 are even more pronounced in the next scene.
After brushing her teeth, the sister leaves, telling the protagonist to buy bread so she can cook when she gets back.
After she leaves, the protagonist's internal monologue goes: "Sorry, I can't wait for you to come back," "Every second I stay in this god-forsaken place is dangerous," "I need to get back to my own world as soon as possible, hope I can have dinner at home tonight."
You think he's about to do something big, right?
Haha, the very next second, the scene cuts to a bakery, and the protagonist starts buying bread. Hahahaha (it's only explained later that he needs the bread for his transmigration ritual).

>>280089134
Klein

nobody likes your shitty jrpg art

>>280089109
>>280089160
That makes it sound like the CIA guys only choose those pathways because they're easily available not because they're any good

>>280089200
Next, the animation team starts forcing things when they have no good ideas, using a camera shot that follows a mouse through a hole in the ceiling, scurrying through a dilapidated medieval streetscape.
(This is hilarious. A transition like this usually implies a connection between the protagonist and the mouse, or it's a metaphor for the protagonist. Hahahaha.)
The animation is incredibly lazy. Using the mouse shot was more likely a way to skip showing the street view from the protagonist's perspective. (For example, in Frieren: Beyond Journey's End, the town streets, shops, and the areas beyond the city walls all feel seamlessly connected. It feels like there's more space beyond what's shown on screen, creating a sense of realism that keeps the audience immersed. But in Lord of the Mysteries, it's full of sweeping overhead shots and character close-ups with blurred backgrounds, making it look like a collection of exquisite illustrations or a green-screen drama filmed on a limited set, terrified of showing anything beyond.) As a result, halfway through the first episode, the protagonist is acting all familiar, but the audience still has no idea what kind of world this is.
The protagonist feels like he's being followed on the street. He dodges and weaves, then hides in a witch's tent. He then suddenly stops worrying about being followed, sits down with his back to the tent's entrance, and starts haggling with the witch over the price of a tarot reading.
After performing the transmigration ritual, the protagonist enters a different dimension, and new concepts are introduced. Although he just arrived in this world, he's somehow knowledgeable enough to spout terms like "God's domain," "summoning," "temple," and "The Fool." He expertly uses magical abilities and casually sits down on the cool-looking throne. (Hahahaha, and only at this moment does he say his modern name, "Zhou Mingrui," for the first time.)

>>280088897
>Why did King Isekai regret his power choices?
I'll put this in the least spoilery way possible, and still mark it as a spoiler:
The path isekai king chose does not have a chance for something but he only realised that much later.
The three he named do have the chance.
I might be slightly off, it's been years since I read it and I never have the time to re-read old stuff.

>>280089202
Alger

>>280089247
Not my Alger

This is the objectively correct Pathways tier list regarding how powerful and safe they are.

>>280089247
Leonard

>>280089244
It doesn't seem very balanced

>>280089233
There are also some examples of a severe mismatch between the visuals and the character dialogue that are very jarring:
Klein's inner monologue complains about his sister, "Why does she have the expression of someone caring for her mentally challenged brother?" At this point, there should have been a close-up on the sister, but instead, the shot completely obscures her face as she turns and walks away.
While walking down the street, Klein starts comparing this world to his original one. His line is, "The sun is about the same. If it weren't for that creepy red moon, it would really feel like a parallel world." The visuals show a close-up of the sun and a sweeping, slow-motion shot overlooking the European medieval-style city. The red moon is specifically mentioned, but it's not shown on screen. And how is European medieval architecture "parallel" to the protagonist's original world of airplanes and neon-lit modern cities?
Hilariously, when the protagonist first arrives, he looks in a mirror, and his face has no wounds or bloodstains. But the next day, an inner monologue from the protagonist suddenly pops up: "The original owner shot himself in the temple, and now it's completely healed." Did the screenwriting and animation teams not communicate at all? A continuity error like this in the very first episode? What kind of bug is that?
The bakery owner 【specifically】 【winks】 and 【with concern】 tells the protagonist he should "move to a new place, at least one with your own washroom."
So, here's the question: this moment emphasizes the protagonist's poor living conditions, but the entire episode never shows 【the layout of Klein's house, what street it's on, the environment of the street, or if the bakery is downstairs from his house. Why does the shop owner know so much about him?】

>>280089202
Don't really like these designs. Too soft doesn't feel like it matches the feel of the book, and there's something off about those clothes.
I prefer these.

>>280089223
As the anime intro so kindly spoiled, becoming stronger in sequences results in becoming godly in nature, which means an immortal lifespan after a certain point. And all the pathways have their strong points, for high level sleepless they can just instantly wipe someone from existence.

>>280089282
He's handsome, too bad his powers suck. IMO it's a good thing show buffed him then. He'll draw viewers for sure.

>>280089293
Logically, the path of the protagonist 【interacting with things in his house -> going out onto the street -> buying bread】 is his first time venturing out. It’s a great opportunity not only for him to observe the new world but also to show it to the audience.
But the animation team just skipped all of that to save money.
I seriously suspect the animation team didn't design a map. When the protagonist walks or runs, they seem to be actively avoiding showing any street-level detail. He just moves from one scene to another with a change of background. 【The feeling of it being a cheap visual novel is way too strong, hahahaha.】
There is a heavy sense of disconnect between the characters and the backgrounds. They love using motion blur and lens blur to cover up the jarring combination of 2D characters in 3D environments.
The animation team loves to show off technical skills they don't actually possess.
When the sister appears, she is animated swaying back and forth sleepily as if she's about to faint, but her hair strands are stiff as steel wires and don't move at all.
Similarly, Klein's hairstyle doesn't change a bit when he's running away. In fact, because of their obsession with showing off tricky camera angles, the characters become incredibly disconnected from the background, sometimes even resulting in hilariously distorted character models.
(Another "sit-up" for Chinese animated series, hahahahahahahahahaha )

>>280089287
All the pathways are balanced but some pathways are more "occupied" than others.

>>280089287
He fucked around and found out basically

>>280089319
I don't know, that all sounds like the tricksy hard to write around type of thing authors will make strictly inferior to Punch Harder. I saw it in JJK already.

>>280089247
>alger
>the sailor who spent most of his time on the sea
>look like kpop idol

>>280089365
High level fights in lotm aren't dragonball laser beam tug of wars, but a clusterfuck of conceptual warfare. Rather, it's the low and mid sequences where people care about being the most physically adept and doing flips.

>>280089223
>That makes it sound like the CIA guys only choose those pathways because they're easily available not because they're any good
Keep in mind that getting the recipe and materials and stuff for the advancement potion you need is a MASSIVE roadblock, few people even know about Beyonders and between those who do, fake recipes and shit is a huge problem you have to be wary of being given that could end very badly for you. Having a reliable way to advance is a huge deal, way bigger than you're imagining.

>>280089287
It's balanced. Trust.

>>280089223
Well the Nighthawks work for the Church of the Goddess, and the Church controls the Darkness Pathway and others so it's easier for Nighthawks to advance using the Darkness Pathway.

>>280089406
He looks like a twink bottom in this animation anyway

>>280088801 (OP)
I don't speak Chinese, nigga.

>>280089418
>>280089419
Midnight Poet maxxing isn't a shit build then? Is Leonard going to avoid jobber jail?

>>280089431
Nepohawks

>>280089223
>because they're easily available
exactly why he choose this, if you're beyonder not part of the church you will get hunted down by Nighthawk, Machine Hive mind and Mandated Punisher.

>>280089468
at mid sequence you can jump/change to neighborhood pathway

>>280089468
Leonard specifically is a jobber, which is why his OC superman fight scene was a dumb decision because he's destined to job in an important fight. Much later there are high level evernight sleepless who don't job.

>>280089468
The problem with your comment and why novel readers will have trouble answering it is because they've now introduced abilities he shouldn't have, which means he might end up jobbing since he's way stronger in the adaptation than in the original work, for the point he's at.

>>280089468
There are some sequences that have their own... problems and downsides, for example if you ever get isekai'd there and somebody offered you an Assassin potion maybe give it a miss and look for a different one, but Sleepless / Midnight Poet isn't really weaker than any other pathway it just offers different sets of powers.

>>280088801 (OP)
>Doesnt even reach top 10 on chinese platform
Guys, should we be worry? I thought ep 1 and 2 are peak?

>>280089573
>>280089592
Nyo...

>>280089134
Fuck off. Those are the lamest char designs of all the ones available. Quit trying to push your shit taste.

>>280089418
>but a clusterfuck of conceptual warfare.
That has been done so many times by now.

>>280089614
can't read any of that boss what's number 1

Don't let the Taiwanese spammer convince you that the dogshit designs he posts are any better than the anime designs they both suck.

>>280088801 (OP)
They made Audrey too ugly. I can't watch this.

>>280089688
Maybe not like LotM, give it time and see for yourself. My fave fight in all of fictional media is in LotM and involves a key, so others know which one I'm talking about.

>>280089688
In anime? Where? Like in Nasu stuff?

>>280089468
Don't look up the Monster pathway sequence 9 is schizophrenia.

>>280088801 (OP)
He is cute
He will share a lot of screentime with mc right cause i ship them

>>280089856
Yeah, you can look at the director previous work. it's BL

>>280089856
Klein is unambiguously straight, which is kinda funny because most everyone else is asexual.

>>280089739
Most beautiful woman in Backlund btw. What were they thinking?

>>280089279
>safe
>door and error s-tier

>>280089856
Why doesn't anyone care about pirate man or captain smith?

>>280089722
All the shows listed like Perfect World, Conan, DD2, RI, SYWZ, etc. have entered the c animation scene the past few years, wuxiaworld buff and have other resources for back up other than a webnovel.

>>280089836
Yeah, also Dies Iraes and a lot of chuunige, a lot of other chink novels love to play with that concept(most of them fail to make it interesting), toaru, jojo. A bit of a stretch but law of ueki.

>>280090031
I haven't even tried watching dies irae since people talk about it like biscuit hammer tier

>>280089722
Perfect World
Detective Conan
Soul Land 2: The Peerless Tang Clan
Renegade Immortal
Divine Seal Throne
Jade Dynasty Season 3
Fight to break the sky
Cover the Sky
Devouring the Lord of the Starry Sky

>>280089279
>Assasin pathway S tier
While it's true that it's very powerful, as a pathway it's one of the most problematic ones next to the ones in D tiers.

>>280089999
>>280090090
thanks

>>280090084
I was talking about the vn, not the adaptation.

>>280089953
I'm not kidding, Fujo don't want to get mogged by the jewel of Backlund that's why the director (who have experience working on BL series) make her uglier

>>280088801 (OP)
I will only analyze and clarify the plot in donghua for everyone to understand

- 1st scene:
+ Brief overview of the power system: There are 22 types of power, each power represents a god. Level 9 is the starting level, each time you level up, your power will increase, when you reach the highest level, you will have the power of a god. Ex: 9 -> 8 -> 7 -> ... -> 1. Therefore, this power system is also called "Path of the Divine" (Pathways).
+ The user of this power is called "Beyonder". The way to achieve this power is to drink magic potions. The formula for making magic potions for each pathway will be different. The ingredients can be herbs, animal carcasses, minerals, etc.

- 2nd scene:
+ Our main character is named Zhou Mingrui, he is Chinese, a normal person, a programmer, and has a normal family. One day, due to bad luck at work, he bought a book that recorded a lucky ritual (place 4 dishes in 4 corners of the wall, then chant a spell). After performing the ritual in that book, he isekai to another world and reincarnates in another person's body. The day he isekai is June 28, 1349 (according to the new world calendar).

- 3rd scene:
+ He is reincarnated in the body of a person named Klein Moretti, a recent graduate of Khoy University, has a younger sister named Melissa Moretti and a brother named Benson Moretti. Their parents died before.
+ Klein (original)'s condition is quite strange, he committed suicide with a gun. But when Zhou revived in his body, the wound closed itself and Klein's memories merged with Zhou's memories.

- 4th scene:
+ Klein (original)'s death is related to another murder case. Klein (original) had 2 friends, Welch McGovern and Naya, both of them also committed suicide at Welch's house. Welch banged his head against the wall until he died, Naya drowned her head in a basin of water until she died. Before that, all 3 of them were studying a diary of the Antigonus family. But after these 3 people died, this diary disappeared.

>>280089970
even fool, most people lose themselves during faceless, and sequence 3 ritual would be almost impossible to recreate without celestial worthy's help

>>280090126
then why is Melissa so cute

Watching this made me realize the cultivation novels are as unintelligible as I imagined and that it's not just me.

>>280090107
We dont see much of action from assasin pathway in book 1, does the second book show more action from that pathway?

>>280090128
>2nd scene:
>+ Our main character is named Zhou Mingrui, he is Chinese, a normal person, a programmer, and has a normal family. One day, due to bad luck at work, he bought a book that recorded a lucky ritual (place 4 dishes in 4 corners of the wall, then chant a spell). After performing the ritual in that book, he isekai to another world and reincarnates in another person's body. The day he isekai is June 28, 1349 (according to the new world calendar).
This whole thing felt so unnecessary though

>>280090199
We only like young women here
Audrey is old

>>280090128
- 5th scene:
+ Zhou Mingrui, now Klein Moretti, feels confused with this unknown world, wants to go home (old world). So he went out to buy some food to repeat the lucky ritual from the beginning, while on the road he felt that he was being followed so he hid in a circus tent, there was a fortune teller there. So he tried to tell his fortune -> The Fool. He suddenly realized that this world also had Tarot cards from the old world, and the inventor was Roselle the Emperor so he thought that Roselle was a senior isekai.

After returning home, he repeated the ritual, but instead of returning to the old world, he was teleported to a mysterious space surrounded by gray mist and many stars. He accidentally touched 2 of the stars and they summoned 2 other people: Audrey and Alger. Klein wanted to exchange information with the other 2 people, so he thought of some tables and chairs to sit down and discuss. Surprisingly, this space fulfills his wish, so he takes advantage of this power to pretend to be a god - The Fool. Through the conversation between Audrey and Alger, Klein learns that this world has magic and the magic user is "Beyonder". Audrey wants to become "Beyonder" so she makes a deal with Alger to get the formula of a pathway called "Spectator".

- 6th scene:
+ As mentioned above, Klein, Welch and Naya committed suicide in connection with a diary of the Antigonus family. Because there is a magical element in this case, the special task force was sent to investigate. They followed the trail to Klein's house. They planned to use magic to force Klein to tell the truth, but Klein was afraid that this would reveal that he came from Earth, so he ran away. But he could not escape because he was pulled into a dream by Dunn Smith. In the dream, Klein was conscious and escaped this interrogation. After the interrogation was fruitless, Dunn Smith and Daly Simone invited him to join the Nighthawks with the purpose of searching for the Antigonus family's diary.

>>280090199
>little sister
we should be more worried about Trissy design, will the director give her 10/10 design

>>280090238
Now to episode 2

- 1st scene:

+ The power system is clarified in this episode: a normal person can become a "Beyonder" thanks to the potion, but there is a high risk of losing control and becoming a monster. The unorganized "Beyonder" will have a higher risk of losing control than the organized "Beyonder".

+ In this episode, 6 more pathways are mentioned: Seer, Sleepless, Corpse Collector, Mystery Prier, Marauder, Apprentice. Plus 2 pathways mentioned in episode 1: Spectator, Sailor. So we have known 8/22 pathways.

+ To gain power, in addition to drinking the potion, the "Beyonder" must also digest the potion. And the key to digesting is the name of the potion. Ex: If a "Beyonder" drinks the sequence 9 potion called "Sailor", then they must become a real sailor => This is also called "Acting".

+ Some known abilities in both episodes:

# Seer has the ability to: use spirit vision to observe a person's state, dowsing rod - detect the location of an object/person, perform some magical rituals

# Sleepless has the ability to: enhance physical strength, reduce sleep time, lull people to sleep by reciting poetry, pull others into dreams.

# Corpse Collector has the ability to: psychic (interrogate souls by entering a person's subconscious)

>>280090223
It's relevant 1k chapters in

>>280090268
>trissy
disgusting tranny harlot

>>280090268
The taste of a demoness...

To people who are complaining that it's too fast, maybe the novel is too slow? I mean did it skip a lot? As an anime only, I'm sure a lot of thought went into the anime with careful considerations.
Or do I have to absolutely read the novels?

>>280090290
- 2nd scene:

+ Klein chooses to join Nighthawks - a special task force of the Church of the Evernight Goddess. He goes through Hound Pub to Blackthorn Security Company. This is a company created by Nighthawks to disguise their missions, because information related to "Beyonder" is hidden from ordinary people.

+ Here, he meets some members of Nighthawks: Rozanne, Leonard, Royale, Frie, Kenley, ... He is warned by Dunn Smith - the captain of Nighthawks about the risks of becoming a "Beyonder". Dunn asks Klein if he knows about the Myth of Creation and Dunn introduces the 4 pathways that the church possesses: Seer, Sleepless, Mystery Prier, Corpse Collector. In which Seer only has the formula sequence 9 (starting sequence). Perhaps there is some connection between the Myth of Creation and the 22 pathways.

- 3rd scene:

+ Klein goes to see Old Neil in the alchemy room. Klein is introduced by Old Neil to Emperor Roselle's diary and he realizes that the diary is written in Chinese => Roselle is his isekai senior and is also Chinese.

+ Roselle mentions a certain miserable person who was imprisoned in the storm and lost in the darkness. It seems that Roselle is quite arrogant when thinking that himself is the main character of the era (200 years ago) :D . In another diary, Roselle realizes how to digest the potion and regrets not choosing 1 of the 3 pathways: Seer, Marauder, Apprentice.

+ Klein wants to return to the old world so his current purpose is to learn more about this world and search for magic rituals. With Roselle's reminder, he chooses the Seer pathway.

>>280090212
The second book is centered on the assasin and hunter pathways in particular.

>>280090326
- 4th scene:

+ After drinking the potion, Klein needs to control the power in his body so Old Neil guides him to meditate (recreate an object in his mind). Klein sees that Old Neil's health is not very good and sees 2 eyes behind him. On the other side, he sees a white shadow gradually fading away. He thinks he is hallucinating because he is not familiar with this power. Old Neil tells him to tap on his forehead when he wants to activate/deactivate spirit vision.

- 5th scene:

+ Klein was assigned by Dunn to go around Welch's house to find the whereabouts of the Antigonus family diary.

+ Leonard asked Klein to help him in a kidnapping case: Elliot, the son of merchant Bacchus (who appeared in the company when Klein had just arrived) was kidnapped by robbers and Leonard did not know Elliot's location so he asked Klein to use Seer's ability to find Elliot's location.

+ Klein used his spirit vision to see through the door of the room, saw 2 adults and 1 child. But the state of these 2 robbers was quite strange, they were mumbling something about bombs.

+ Leonard broke the door and defeated the 2 robbers but then they lost control and became a monster, perhaps these 2 robbers were "Beyonder" or they were contaminated by something. Leonard defeated the monster, it did not die but turned to Klein. Because it was his first time using a gun, Klein shot the monster in the shoulder (actually he wanted to aim at the head). The monster escaped but was put to sleep by Leonard thanks to the Sleepless pathway's ability.

>>280090206
Probably they are not unintelligible for the kind of people that like reading them. I am not into cultivation shit but I used to be obsessed with detective novels to the point that I was reading even the shittiest of them because I liked how they made me feel. I am imagining that it's the same for the kind of person that consumes a lot of cultivation webnovels that are close to indistinguishable from each other.

>>280090084
Dies Irae VN is omegakino.

>>280090212
The main character in the 2nd book becomes the outer god of the assassin pathway group

>>280090238
Can you explain more about the fortune telling scene? The fortune teller and the monkey scrubber are twins, the monkey scrubber did a switcheroo right in time for MC to get a reading? How? Coincidence? But turns out she's actually a better fortune teller than her twin despite getting stuck with monkeys? Is she seen again later in the episodes we've had already?

>>280090363
- 6th scene:

+ The rescue mission ended, but Klein felt familiar in this place. He said goodbye to Leonard and went home.

+ Leonard seemed strange. He was talking to someone, but there was no one around. Maybe there was some hidden meaning when his shadow changed.

+ Klein went home but as soon as he opened the door, he felt like he was in the house where the two robbers were hiding. It turned out that this familiar feeling was because Klein (original) had been here before and left the Antigonus family diary here.

+ After credit: After receiving a temporary salary from Nighthawks, Klein moved to a new house, replacing the old rented room. The 3 Moretti brothers celebrated, Benson and Melissa gave Klein a suit.

Done

>>280090369
It's kinda overrated desu. Senshinkan from the same author was a lot better.

>>280090227
Huh, wasn't Audrey younger than Melissa? I don't remember shit.

>>280089999
>>280090090
Detective Conan is popular in China?

>>280090395
Good summary anon, thanks. Saved it to a notepad to post to others who are confused in the future.

>>280088801 (OP)
Anons we cant let this creep has his way

>>280090314
The novel is very slow at the start but it's not a bad thing.

>>280090314
Bit of both. Klein is supposed to intern in the non-supernatural section of his job for a bit beforehand.

>>280089851
Monster is so fucking kino, If I could be a Beyonder I'd be one.

>>280089326
I find that a lot of these manwah and Korean comics suffer from the same bullshit, it's wish fulfillment without any of the hard work. the MC is just SOME GUY, who gets godly powers or is put into an odd situation and just BY HIMSELF naturally figures everything out.

In Japanese media there is always a sense of togetherness, friends who fill in the gap where the protagonist is lacking, this creates interesting group dynamics and brings characters to life.

In Korean/Chinese media? Everyone around else is just there to praise him and do nothing else while he solves the problem. These series don't have "casts", they have boring sterile main characters who lives in their own heads.

>>280090466
Very very popular yeah
They are addicted to it much like the japs
Tons of shipping wars, yaoi doujin, women self inserting themselves into the story to rape any Akai

>>280090518
>In Japanese media there is always a sense of togetherness, friends who fill in the gap where the protagonist is lacking, this creates interesting group dynamics and brings characters to life.
You fall asleep for the current isekai boom or something?

>>280090512
They also have the best King of Angels.

>>280090512
Gotta be the most overrated pathway, they are almost useless in combat situations. They just get lucky enough to never be in one in the first place.

>>280090128
>>280090238
>>280090290
>>280090326
>>280090363
>>280090395

Thank you for this, someone needs to create a screenshot of this for the future.

>>280090666
They're the best at surviving and that counts for a lot.

>>280090632
>have no neighboring pathway
>fuck it im going to join you guys

>>280088801 (OP)
This Donghua adaptation might have good animation and stunning visuals but it's missing the most important part of LOTM which is the heavy Story telling. It's like I am watching those "Lotm explained in 60 seconds" videos. I can't feel it the same way I felt with the novel. Where are the hundreds of words dropped on the description of Bread ? Where are the descriptions of the socio-economic structures? It's feels like that the fan manga had more contents than this donghua. I am now seeing random YouTubers with 8k ish subscribers and SpongeBob pfp , slandering lotm cause it's just info dump without any story telling just like "GACHA GAMES". Bro had the audacity to compare Lotm to GACHA games. Well I can't blame him cause the first ep literally felt like a cutscene from Genshin Impact.

Like dumping 13 chapters which has 24000 words in 30 minutes isn't doing justice in anyway. Cuttlefish and Tencent failed us. I am hearing the pacing will be fixed but I dont think the main problem is going to be solved.

>>280090395
Thanks anon.

>>280090666
Not being in combat is the best way to win fights, so long as your goals get accomplished who cares if you can punch a hole in a mountain.

>>280090837
>"What the fuck? Since when am I an Angel of the Fool? Pretty fucking sweet though".

>look at the pathway list
>saw this
HELLO HOW TO BECOME SEX ADDICTS?

>>280091133
Become an evil cultist and pray fervently to the mother tree of desire to get a sex addict boon (and become corrupted)

>>280091133
Follow not even Gods anon. The Machinery Hivemind is watching.

>>280091133
>does he know?

>>280088801 (OP)
Rate her new manga look

>>280091324
Blue boy

the dub will save the anime

Alright so this is fujo garbage and as a heterosexual man this would be a hard pass for me, right?

>>280091277
>ntrman pathway
Im sold

>>280091465
The MC is unquestionably straight.

>>280091521
More like asexual.
...or self sexual depending on how you interpret things

>>280091623
No, he's unquestionably straight. I remember at least 1 monologue of him explicitly confirming he's attracted to women, and there's also that scene where a bad actor forces him to dream about sexy women which makes him cum his pants.

>>280091465
There's no fujo pandering, at least, none that I remember from the novel.

>>280090395
And what is that smoke or mist power he has?

>>280091687
wasn't there also a group exploration of some ruin that he did with Audrey where they started flirting?

>>280091957
He doesn't flirt with her unless you count emotional heart-to-hearts to be flirting. He doesn't flirt with anyone. But he canonically likes women, he just has no time for relationships because he's always struggling to keep ahead of the villains.

Klein was closer to getting himself pregnant than having a girlfriend

>>280091687
Klein reading Rosselle diary is the reason why he get spooked from romance/sex.
Also having a partner only add another weakness to you that's why Rosselle "pretending" to be playboy to hide his real love.

Why isn't the blood censored white?

>wo qing duibui jintua ni hua zua ta shi
JP dub when.

>>280088801 (OP)
It's not that new, bonus content related to the show has been done before.

>>280088801 (OP)
>Chinese are the ones offering a honest critique and reprimanding the studio
>Western trannies are the paragon boot-lickers and apologists
The west have truly fallen.

>>280090107
Assassins are basically uncontested in the higher sequences, a competent one styles on other beyonders in the same "tier". Even in the lower sequences it is incredibly strong. It is unfortunate for 50% of the population that it is being held hostage by a bunch of angsty schizos. Hunters look like a bunch of chumps by comparison.

>>280092907
/a/ is chinese now?

>>280092947
Always has been.

>>280092932
I didn't say anything about it's strength, beyonders of this pathway are amongst the most mentally unstable ones in all the standard pathways.

>>280089614
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>280089999
>>280090090
Conan is a better mystery show than Lord of the tranny confirmed kek

>I want to watch Kekkai Sensen
>We have Kekkai Sensen at home
That being said I loved the first two episodes. I don't know what people aren't following

Though appearently novel readers are saying read the novel, but then again waters wet

>>280090791
I was 80% of the way through making this picture when I saw your post, then got involved in an hour long phone call.

>>280092994
>what people aren't following
It's not about that.
Characters are doing nonsensical things out of the fucking blue. If you have a brain and follow stuff, you'll notice a lot of things not making a fucking sense.
Point being, if you enjoyed these 2 episodes, you are a retard who lives only due to your spinal reflexes doing it for you & not due to your cognitive ability.

>>280088801 (OP)
Why are they deleting mal review?
https://myanimelist.net/anime/49818/Guimi_Zhi_Zhu__Xiaochou_Pian

>>280089614
lol even the chinks hates this shit

>>280093262
What didn't make sense?
Most confusing part so far was when he was put in a dream, which seems to be when he was waking up from the divine realm.

Honestly my only confusion is the divine realm. They seemed to think he was a God and he didn't have any powers at the time.
No idea how divine realm works or what it implies. How does it interact with his Sequence powers?

>>280093402
>Honestly my only confusion is the divine realm
That's the intention. The mystery over what that is and how it connects with his sequence gets uncovered slowly throughout the entire series.

>>280093402
I guess you can say he's like The Lord of The Mysteries™

>>280093498
My gut says he's acting like what was mentioned by the first emperor

He's actually a God and just observing the world as a human with no knowledge to get first hand experience. In the end he'll be his own God

Maybe they'll go with idea universe bit where humans from actual world create the Gods through imagination and the humans from this world follow their whims?

>>280090791
That's just copied from MAL

>>280089593
>somebody offered you an Assassin potion
I'd drink it without a thought. Why pass on becoming a cute girl?

>>280088801 (OP)
>Creative new concept
Remember when isekai anime would have 3-4 minute shorts at the end of every episode?

>>280089059
Where's the Taiwan art of Reinette?

Bros, my big titty goth GF who groomed me to be her personal assassin says I will finally be moving to sequence 7! I am so excited!

>>280088801 (OP)
>new concept
Lmao. Gunbuster did it the late 80s.

>>280093698
I'm into genderbender but I prefer to be the one doing rather than receiving.

>>280092907
chinks are the ones who actually read and appreciated the source material
of course the western normies won't pick up a book to save their lives and their jujutsu-coded brains will just require fluid animation to call stuff "lit" and post reaction videos with open mouth faces

>open thread
>phoneposter twitter screencaps
>phoneposter MAL screencaps
Finally /a/ is healing

The pacing really is all kinds of wack. Feels like watching a 30 minute trailer rather than an episode. Like the archetypal example of style without substance. At least it looks impressive.

>>280094714
Episode 3 Klein will fight the clown, in the book the fight happens in chapter 75

>>280094785
>Episode 3 Klein will fight the clown
????
what the fuck

>>280094841
Trust the Plan!

>>280094785
>in chapter 75
Are there any drama fags, who know why the studio didn't opt-in for a slow burn instead of zipping through everything?
That first arc was pretty important in establishing a lot of things.

>>280094912
Definitely it's because they wanted to insert "cool action scenes" in every episode.

>>280094841
they speedrunning Klein beyonder advancement so he can join Leonard in aura farming challange, in the book Klein was working as intern in the nighthawk for a week before getting the potion, in the adaptation he just get handed it kek.

>>280094343
It is what it is.

Volume 1 ends at around chapter 210~
Judging by how episode corresponds to chapter 75, it seems like they'll have 10 episodes to cover 135 chapters (13.5 chapters per episode). So the claims that the pacing will get slower after episode 3 looks to be true for now.

>>280095027
how episode 3 corresponds to chapter 75*

>>280090860
They want to sell LOTM as the big Chinese shounen isekai. They don't want the existing audience.

>>280094205
Interesting. So she keeps one hand free to make gestures normally?

>>280095075
do you have the other sceenrshot where they leak the plot for every episode?

>>280095120
When she gets serious, she just stacks her heads on her neck

>>280094966
>satanic, kabbala-coated dubs confirms
Man, they'll never live it down. At face value, they picked up a random guy from the street, let him in their super secret hideout that houses the super secret organization, threw a magic potion at him and then had him solve a supernatural case the next moment, where a monstrous abomination almost kills him. Then the next moment he's all
>"KEK" I'm moving in a dope new apparment. Life is good
Like, what the fuck is this, c'mon? lmao

>>280095217
Ah... They are tying up all the janky, sloppy "shit just happens" stuff with everyone being under the influence of 08... Or so it seems. Could actually work, I guess.

>>280095217
>episode 6
>the pregnant woman already show up
grim they really want to end this in 13 episode

>>280095217
Hold on no mention of Justin Bieber, they remove him from this adaptation to avoid copyright?
KWAB

>>280092907
>Western trannies are the paragon boot-lickers
Wtf I didn't know trannies were based?

>>280095439
>50%
Make it 100%!

How many episodes till Fors? If I'm going to watch a shit adaptation I want to know that atleast.

>>280095439
I hope they show the Church of Steam raiding the Amon tomb, a church that just guns and bombs everything into oblivion is funny in this setting.

I watched the 2 episodes and it seemed interesting. I like that it's wuxia cultivation stuff, but in notEngland.
Where do I read the actual novel? Is it the one on webnovel dot com? I read a couple paragraphs and it was kinda ESLy, but I guess that's normal for webtoons too.

>>280095762
Wait until ss2 , we need more action scenes

>>280095883
>Is it the one on webnovel dot com?
Yeah. They'll ask you to start paying once you reach far enough, pretty sure there's sites like that let you read for free once you reach that point though. Just gotta find them

>>280095892
probably they going to show her early, to build up a hype and the novel reader can make reaction content IS THAT BEST GIRL FORS!!!

>>280095883
You can find a epub or pdf version of the whole thing on reddit somewhere if you look up lord of mysteries pdf

>>280095883
if you have patience wait for a month, Yen press going to release printed version of it.

>>280095959
You wish, it is a fujo series now, the boys got attention instead

>>280096034
Derrick will be shota or ikemen?

Did you guys forget that Leonard is a chuuni? Just assume that he just dreamt the whole 'aura-farming' sequence.

>>280088801 (OP)
>needing a guide to watch the show
Lmao, WAOTS already decided.

>>280096210
>WAOTS
You are reaching, but it's certainly MY biggest disappointment of the year so far.

>>280088801 (OP)
I like the quality of the animation, but the pacing of the exposition is off.

>>280095338
If they tie it in somehow with the 0-08 it's gonna be kino.

>>280095883
If a novel is on webnovel dot com, always always pirate it instead. Fuck those guys with a rake.
https://novlove.com/novel/lord-of-the-mysteries
Literally just run a quick websearch for pirate sites that have reuploaded novels in their entirety. Keep in mind there's a non-zero chance they might have fucked up the chapter order for a chapter or two or missed one by accidentally duplicating the previous one or something, if you think that's happened just quickly search for a second site to compare with to check.

>>280095439
I will not take this Paragon slander.

where is the dub
i cannot listen to chinese, just give me japanese

>>280096785
>I never watched kung fu movies
You are weak

>>280096713
>>280096540
The translation on these ones, and also the epubs I found is different to the "official" one
https://www.webnovel.com/book/lord-of-mysteries_11022733006234505/crimson_31208015751346911
Free version seems better though, more natural sounding.

>>280096802
They speak cantonese not mainland chinklish

>>280090481
we can and we should

I heard talk that Cuttlefish confirmed regular non-mystical technology can reach Sequence 1 in power. Is this true?

>>280097202
I guess it depends on what's considered Mystical. The Savant Path can put bits of their soul into what they build. If they're at the Demi-God level? Maybe.

>>280097202
I don't know if that's true, I think a nuke is weaker than a sequence 1 beyonder, maybe even a sequence 2.

>>280097374
Nuke can't deal with immaterial stuff. Spectators can "live" inside subconscious pretty early, for example.
Scholar of Yor, which is 3rd sequence, would also be Nuke proof.

>>280097374
>>280097576
Marauder could just steal it.
Door get traveling pretty early & it also kind of immunizes it against a lot of physical threats.

>>280097374
>>280097576
>>280097669
I think it was referring to Supernova Dominator's technologically advanced galactic civilizations. But I don't remember if that guy's cronies was using magic technology in the same way Savants do.

>>280095978
You don't need to use that garbage website to find it, it's on zlibrary and anna's archive.

>>280091465
The novel isn't fujo at all I don't know about the anime.

The only "fujo" thing is that the main villain is an evil, pretty boy genius who kidnaps the MC.

>>280095762
S2, she shows up at the very beginning of Volume 2

>>280098526
Leonard(and I guess Azik now?) are top Fujo bait.

not /a/
move that shit to >>/co/

Agin, what was the white shadow-like silhouette Klein saw behind Old Neil (not the Sage's Eyes) when he activated his spirit vision for the first time?

>>280100166
Did they skip the talk about hallucinations in the show?

>>280100166
That would be spoiler

>>280100330
I know, I've read the novel already but forgot that detail in specific.

>>280100125
Lol get fucked nerd

Fucking crunchyroll didn't even bother with translating the show properly. How the fuck is Melissa a "University Student in Backlund" here? They're in fucking Tinger and she only goes to Backlund way later in the story.

>>280100782
Yes whoever they hired to TL is dogshit

>>280100782
They pay one guy in India to do the translations. Please understand.

>>280100782
What does it actually say then?

Remember to thank Night Mommy today.

>>280101174
She studies at Tingen Technical School at this point in the story. Even Google Lens could get it right, Crunchyroll's TL fucked up big time

>>280100782
>>280101335
What a weird mistake to make.

>>280101584
>>280101335
>>280100968
It seems they looked her up in the the fucking wiki and picked the first thing that appeared there

Is it a plothole caused by anime direction that Leonard meets Klein right after he leaves the Sephirah castle? I feel like old man would’ve sensed its aura

>>280101944
That's got to be wrong because if they did, they'd have translated Audience potion as Spectator potion, the most viewed page on the wiki is the fucking pathways page (with massive spoilers on it)

>>280102039
The Seer pathway group has authority over concealment. Sefirah Castle is almost undetectable.

>>280102039
If I'm remembering right only certain pathways can detect/view the aura he gives off. And for those who can it will royally fuck them up to look at.

>>280102132
>>280101584
They want to make of legal age
There wont be room for pedo

>>280102201
>>280102222
I think old man should’ve sensed it though? Arrodes did, and the old man himself mistook him for ‘old aquaitance’ during Dantes arc. Is it because he doesn’t have strong enough connection with it yet?

>>280102222
You're thinking of the Monster pathway, and the reason for that actually has nothing to do with sefirah castle, it's because his fate was intertwined with the Celestial Worthy

>>280102489
Correct, he doesn't have as strong a connection. Also Arrodes is a product of the Chaos Sea, and himself has a connection to it, which has the authority of Omniscience

>>280101335
Méilisha...

>>280101335
I love how the luck enhancement ritual just became repeating celestial worthy four times

>>280103790
He wasn't. He was saying the whole thing. They just didn't translate it lol.

>>280103928
That's what the anon was saying, I guess. That the fucking translators at CR just went "lol he's saying celestial worthy four times"

>>280103928
Yeah that’s my point
They also didn’t translate name signs in ep2 properly. They are supposed to have the Pathway, and the current Sequence

>>280104046
Bunch of lazy hacks. An additional reason why I don't sub to them.

Daily reminder that COI is a fanfiction done by some tencent suit

>>280104372
>he's still seething
rumao

>>280104459
I'm a proud Klein glazer, I can't accept the dirty things done to my boy

>high level LOTM fights are just "My symbolism counters yours!" slapfights
LOTMfags think this is good..?

>>280104372
It's a big downgrade but it still has some good moments. End of the dream volume was great.

>>280104589
extremely spicy opinion: the lotm power system is at its best below the high sequences. was never a fan of the conceptual stuff

>>280104589
It gets silly in later volumes yes
But it can be kino like the trunsoest brass book being ridiculously overpowered

>>280104737
I don't dislike the conceptual stuff too much, but the lower-mid sequence stuff was definitely the most fun to read about.

>>280104589
COI is a genuinely awful novel despite Cuttlefish improving his writing in a lot of ways. Embers is still his best work because the setting forced him to stay grounded and write an ensemble cast.

To be honest he gets way too much credit just because LotM has an innovative setting. He's not a very good writer. The Mother of Learning guy, the Shadow Slave guy, and Wildbow are all better writers, even if you take the translation barrier into account. I mean, Mother of Learning in particular - that's the story CoI should have been, a time loop story. It's an example of a western author succeeding at something Cuttlefish shied away from, and on top of that writing it better than he would have.

I want to breed Xio. Tomboys are the best!

>>280105023
I prefer Yuan Tong myself.

>>280105023
>Shadow Slave
>better than anything
What do all of you see in it that I don't? I couldn't get much farther than the MC and some girl leading a blind girl around with a rope.

>>280105126
Is that Deep Sea Embers on the right? It was pretty good, if slow paced. Though I did start to get irritated that every single side character was a woman swooning over the MC, and chapters of that one officer girl fawning over the undead ghost captain MC thinking of him as a marriage candidate was cringe.

>>280105126
This guy is also a mega hack
No wonder chinks stop reading his novels

>>280105023
Why do they have weird names?

>>280105192
>I did start to get irritated that every single side character was a woman swooning over the MC, and chapters of that one officer girl fawning over the undead ghost captain MC thinking of him as a marriage candidate was cringe
I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you sure you remember that from DSE? That sounds nothing like DSE and I've re-read it very recently.

>>280105352
I think you're getting Embers ad Infinitum (Cuttlefish's other work) and Deep Sea Embers (about pirate ghost captain MC exploring a world similar in setting to LOTM except most of the world is covered in sea and the MC is basically an eldritch god).

>>280105141
I remember the start being the weakest part. I almost dropped it a few times, it really does have awful writing and an awful premise to start. I kept reading for the hell of it and I got engaged at some point. It's the kind of series where the MC is OP but he's constantly in believably dangerous and interesting situations.

But yeah, the start is ass. I wouldn't blame anyone for bouncing off of it, because I couldn't even give you a chapter when it gets good.

>>280089223
A good pathway is one you can easily advance up. All of them will guarantee immense cosmic power should you reach high enough.

>>280088801 (OP)
>Chink slop
Anime?

>>280089200
Complaining that the protagonist is familiar with his own life is so strange.

>>280105489
No, I can differentiate the based retard going "clap-clap-clap" with beyonder-like powers and his 3 comrades in a not-fallout setting from the spooky ghost captain that tells everyone else off for not considering that even spooky ghost captains have a daily life and aren't just going around scaring people 24/7.
That being said, I don't even remember any implication about actual romance in DSE. MC had some vibes with both the SCP-puppet and the queen the puppet's looks are based on, but other than that there were only "you are already X years old yet you are still not married" jokes that he author likes to make about the hags in the setting. So I have no idea who exactly is supposed to be "swooning over the MC". There is no such thing.

>>280105141
>What do all of you see in it that I don't?
Was feeling very similarly after trying it.
>>280105641
And from what this anon says I'm getting:
>it's written like shit, but then you get used to reading shit, and eventually you'll enjoy reading shit

My current favorite CN WN is Lan Ke Qi Yuan. If they animated that, I'd just hope for a nice 2d animation...

>>280105023
I cannot take you seriously when you mention Shadow Slave as an example of good writing, an angsty teenage romance drama disguised as a fantasy novel.

>>280106402
>angsty teenage romance drama
I'm also getting simp'y femdom vibes from it. Why would anyone recommend it and not mention that?

>>280106240
>cultivation
You will get 3Dslop and you will eat it

>>280094785
>literally a bit over 1/3 of the chapters crammed into the first 3 episodes
epic, simply epic, I'm ZOOOOMING
I'm guessing all the time saved will be filled in with more anime-only aura farming scenes?

Just watched an attractive girl react to eps 1 and 2 and she was simping over all male characters. Kek https://youtu.be/PA3R42PhwDs?feature=shared

>>280106554
No, it will be spent on Klein eating and enjoy that succulent desi meat pie.

>>280105023
LotM had great writing. He just massively shat the bed with COI because he apparently has no idea how to handle sequels.

>>280106615
>attractive girl
???

>>280106643
Cope more. You might have thought you'd won the lottery if she gave you a chance in real life.

>>280106619
The fish knows one thing and one thing only, creats a power system then writes the plot around it
He exploited almost everything about beyonder and the power in Lotm, so he got exposed as a hack in the sequel when forced to write actual characters and drama

>>280106715
What? It's the total opposite. COI sucked because there was less characterization/drama and more action. The cast went from a dozen in LotM with their own dedicated segments, to Lumian and his 4 sidekicks in COI, of which only 2 of them had any semblance of personal screentime and ultimately they were just all his accessories. I don't even remember a single emotional scene in COI.

>>280106700
3DPD is incapable of being attractive.

>>280106766
>I don't even remember a single emotional scene in COI.
Klein at the end of volume 6? That was the only part of COI that stuck with me.

>>280106831
I mean, it was a nice scene but not exactly something that would make me tear up unlike several events in LotM. Just compare the ending of LotM's and COI's volume 1; Klein had a lot of SoL scenes and time dedicated to side characters which made the ending much more impactful and emotional, while most of COI volume 1 is Lumian being engrossed in his own adventure and so even the ending which was supposed to be sad didn't hit as hard as it should've because you were given little reason to care about any other people.

>>280106700
>posts an e-girl
>gushes while simping for her
I genuinely don't understand this. Do you find pride in being a gigantic faggot?

>>280106897
I get the feeling the author was influenced by reader hot takes like "lotm's start was too slow" and "gehrman sparrow arc was based aura farming" which resulted in COI.

The first two episodes were great. And I can only imagine they will give better with each new one.

>>280106553
As long as they take their time, I'm okay with it. I watched The Path Toward Heaven, it was a pretty faithful adaptation from what I could remember.

>>280107121
Sadly the only viable option to faithfully adapt thousands of chapters is 3Dslop
Or you get lotm

>>280107090
Same with the anime director apparently

>>280106619
I think you are over-complicating things and quite a lot of people would disagree about the writing quality of LotM.
Personally, as far as sequel is concerned, I was mostly curious about Klein and his little cult as it finally gained some semi-balance of relevance.
Given how many chapters CoI had, Klein was almost absent from it.
The tarot club involvement felt like second-hand fan-service.
Me reading the first book, was ALMOST completely irrelevant while digging in the second one, other than it inheriting the overarching plot of doomsday approaching.
Also boons fucking sucked.

>>280107021
>I am a faggot
>Not the guy lying to himself
Ok

>>280107411
>simp
>saying anything

>>280107536
I am not simping I am telling the objective truth.

>>280091324
>manga
It's a manha

>>280095762
>Fors
>>280098962
I was wrong! She should actually show up in season 1

When will our precious boy show up anyway?

>NO E-GIRLS!
>NOT EVEN ONCE!

>>280107671
wrong pirate

>>280106766
Don't forget cuttlefish's reluctance to do literally anything with the tarot club aside from be Lumian's hype squad.
There could have been interspersed chapters about the club finding out what happens to Klein but nah, off-screen that shit and have them all be like "WELP nothing we can do but raise a literal who Mr. Fool literally glanced at once into the next messiah"

>>280106766
>I don't even remember a single emotional scene in COI.
Lumian being checkmated by Amon? Or how about Lumian chilling in the bar bullshitting people with lies? Klein's "It's worth it" Fucking ROSELLE literally reviving from the fucking DEAD to bail out his stupid, back-stabbing daughter?

>>280105126
Deep Sea Embers needed to be longer. Even by chapter 600 it feels like not only does the world feel small and empty, but it's almost like nothing happened.
It peaked at the snow-island with the broken eldritch clone under the sea

>>280089110
The screenshots posted look beautiful but I guess that's the minimum effort required to be a good shill

>>280107352
>quite a lot of people would disagree about the writing quality of LotM.
Why would a minority opinion matter? Especially when these types of contrarians recommend Shadow Slave instead?

>>280108255
>Especially when these types of contrarians recommend Shadow Slave instead?
This, but also at the bare minimum I respect that anon for actually outing himself that he really believes that LotM is bad and isn't just vagueposting without announcing what his taste is.

>>280108255
>people who disagree that LotM have great writing recommend Shadow Slave
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>280108451
Read the thread ffs.
Newfags, i swear to god.

>>280108451
see>>280105023

>>280108482
>ONE guy recommends Simp Femdom Slave and everyone goes insane
And I'm being called a newfag.

>>280108528
>some retard gets casually insulted
>everyone goes insane
????

>>280108542
Read the thread ffs.

>>280088801 (OP)
>>280088970
Chinese cartoon is the correct term, not anime

>>280108561
Your definition of going insane is 6 mentions of a book spread out over an hour and a half?

>>280105740
>poet twink
>immense cosmic power
How? If not for the original scenes in the show, how? Just punch the guy. NERD pathways are WEAK!

>>280108600
>what the fuck is hyperbole

Idk, man.
I see this post shitting on CoI
>>280107352
And then two retards bringing up Simp Slave for some reason as if that garbage is somewhat relevant.
>>280108255
>>280108366

>>280108693
nta but you obviously feel personally attacked and are lashing out blindly right now

>steampunk fantasy
Picked the fuck up, is it set in not Hong Kong area or some alt future/past with technomagic

>>280108724
>lashing out blindly
Did the screen scream at you?

>>280108769
notBritain.

>>280108789
Is it Victorian era techno magic Britain? Finally I've been waiting for my steampunk hit forever

>>280108851
It's earth, "restarted" after apocalypse. The is no transmigration.

>>280108851
no, it's an alternate timeline industrial revolution where oil doesn't exist, and the fantasy/magic aspects are hidden from society instead of being integrated

>>280108851
there are airships, steam rifles and some steam robots, but I don't think any of those will make an appearance this season. The setting is more like industrial revolution with magic rather than steampunk as well.

>>280088801 (OP)
China

>>280108886
>>280108929
Oil doesn't exist, because our current civilization already harvested it all.

>>280108693
How fucking stupid are you?
Literally in this thread >>280105023 is an anon praising Shadow Slave and deriding Lord of Mysteries.
Do you not read reply chains before posting?

>>280108851
There's no reason a Savant couldn't make this. other than it's fucking stupid lol.

>>280108958
What the fuck are you talking about?
Which statement are you even contesting?

What the fuck does this post
>>280107352
Has to do with shadow slave you stupid fuck?
Are you yourself even reading the damn posts?

>Still complaining
Whiny bitches. Talk about the show ffs.

>>280108938
>no punk
I'll still take it, ty all, will give it a watch later

>>280109038
>What the fuck are you talking about?
>What the fuck does this post >280107352 Has to do with shadow slave you stupid fuck?
First, ESL fuck off.
Second, I literally pointed out in my post
>Literally in this thread is an anon praising Shadow Slave and deriding Lord of Mysteries.
That is textbook definition of relevance and you're a dumb nigger for calling others retards and making false claims.

I don't even know what everyone's arguing about now in this thread. As hard to understand as the show itself.

>>280109212
I DON'T GIVE A SINGLE FUCK ABOUT SHADOW SLAVE YOU DUMB FUCKING NIGGER. GET IT THROUGH YOU THICK FUCKING SKULL.

uh oh melty

why is bro mad?

Let's put discussion back on track.
COI bad. Agree?

>>280109305
??? Then why the hell are YOU starting, continuing and having a meltdown about it? Jesus Christ child, touch grass.

>>280109010
>it's fucking stupid
You take that shit back

>>280109349
For the most part, but it still had some good parts.

>>280109349
agree with this anon >>280109381
Ultimately it has a lot of problems but some parts are just as amazing as the original.

>>280109010
I'm glad we all agree the oil excuse is stupid.

>>280105768
I too am wondering why I'm seeing this all over the board. Its not anime.

>>280109947
You know what they used for liquid combustible fuel before the method of processing crude oil was discovered?
Whale oil. That's why the whaling industry died virtually overnight (the entire industry had been abandoned, and I mean literally abandoned, with a single calendar year)

>>280110000
These threads are a litmus test for newfags like yourself.
>I've been here for-
Clearly not long enough if you weren't aware of mods giving the go-ahead to both Kings Avatar threads and Manhua threads.

>>280110101
I spoke out against all of these you low IQ mongoloid.

>>280110114
You can either waste your time constantly crying for something that won't change or just learn how to filter already.

>>280110146
I will continue bitching about it so newfags know this shit isn't anime.
You can take your own advice and filter that out instead if you don't like it.

>>280110165
I don't care that you like wasting your time whining. Enjoy I suppose, lol

>>280110114
Are you against Manga? Manhwa? Manhua? Webtoons? Are you arbitrarily drawing the line at chinese or korean? Because if you're drawing the line at Japanese then you need to head over to >>>/jp/ since that's where you belong with that line of thought.

>>280110209
Manga, no.
Manhwa, Webtoons, yes.
If they were "Anime and Manga"
Then you wouldn't be referring to them as "Manhwa" and "Webtoons" you fucking zoomer retard.

>>280110209
>anime & manga
No this looks like the right place. Seems like you might be a bit lost yourself though.
It doesn't say Manhwa/Manhua/Webtoons/donghua

>>280110262
thread still won't get deleted no matter how much you cry about it lol

>>280110280
You still won't be above room temp IQ no matter how much your posture.

>>280110231
>>280110262
Take it up with the mods who explicitly allowed them years ago. Ask them to clarify in a sticky, or filter things you don't want to see
Here, let me get you a link for reference >>158325551

>>280110304
>Mods being retards
We already know this.

>>280110332
>mods are retarded because they don't agree with me!
And this is why mods = gods

Post Melissa

If you can't understand or enjoy an anime without reading the novel, doesn't that already make it a failure or just a bad show?

>>280094785
Is this based on actual chink reviews who supposedly already saw episode 3 or is it just "extrapolation" from the pacing of episodes 1 and 2?

Today, I will remind them.

>>280111525
see>>280095217
>>280095075

>>280109349
I don't get the issue. The only part that felt dragged out was "The Fool's dream" though I have yet to read the final 100 chapters or so, so maybe the issue lies there?
I guess people suffer from "next-generation-hatred"? Like how many people who liked Digimon Adventure 01 hated Digimon Adventure 02 because it feels like the cast of the latter stole all the screentime they wanted to see from the former, even worse that they tend to nerf the OG cast to make the new cast stand out, especially egregious with something like Naruto and Boruto or such.
Strangely I didn't really have that problem with CoI up until where I read, despite usually hating next-generation shit myself.

China and Korea seem desperate to cling onto Japanese anime and manga sites no matter what. If they're confident in their own stuff, they should just make their own platforms. But they don't, probably because they know it won't be popular. So they just try to ride on the success of Japanese content.

Any news about the dubs? i can't stand fucking chinese it's one of if not the worst sounding language

>>280111774
>so maybe the issue lies there?
The biggest issue, yes.
>>280111841
No one cares. This isn't an organized shill campaign. Take your meds. Obviously anons used to this site are going to keep using it to discuss whatever they want, lol

>>280088801 (OP)
has anyone watched these mini episodes yet

>>280088897
>Why did King Isekai regret his power choices?
He reached a sequence on his path where there weren't enough ingredient available to advance any further.

Despite all the shilling and whatnot, I can't stand listening to chinese, and don't have enough time to go back to watching anime while relying on subtitles. It's so much more convenient to be able to do other things while paying 70% attention to the anime when you already know japanese, I don't feel like giving that up.

>>280090666
It's been a while since I've read LotM but I remember liking Klein's fight with Enzo.

>>280089365
There was a gradual drop in quality throughout the story as the characters got stronger, for exactly that reason. I still liked it towards the end but I liked the earlier parts more.

>>280110262
Medium characterization has long gone ever since thunderbolt fantasy's arrival

>>280111774
I just found it boring. Lumian has practically everything handed to him on a silver plate. There's rarely any sense of stakes, and when there are stakes, they're way, WAY above his pay grade and some angel or god comes to bail him (and the rest of the world) out. I mean, right down to the end of the fucking novel he's getting bailed out by stronger powers (which always exist somehow despite how strong he gets). Half the time it's his fucking enemies bailing him out for no real reason. So all the best moments belong to other characters, and everything Lumian does feels completely unearned.

>>280113700
And it shouldn't.

>>280088801 (OP)
None of the characters in this feel like characters. They're just interchangeable goobers that spout lines. Is it different in the novels? It's just soulless and there's no time to let characterization or scenes breathe. Fundamentally inhuman.

>>280113964
It's way different in the novel, the main criticism of new novel readers was the opposite of the donghuas criticism, that it had "too much" character and world building at the start and not enough action. Just read like 15-30 minutes of this and you'll already see how vastly different it is.
https://novelfire.net/book/lord-of-the-mysteries/chapter-1

>>280113964
The novel has so many small details that built up for the big reveal
Klein love buying bread, he complaining about the price of bread, this is because the new grain tax act that lead to world war.

>>280114300
>>280114731
Skipping bread is unironically unforgivable

The older I grow, the more I despise the long strip comic format.

>>280115133
>>280114802
Will never read this shit for that very reason.

>>280109349
No, it was still peak until volume 6. Morora arc was one of the finest arc, then the Fool's dream was dragged out quite a bit. Volume 7 was a dumpster fire with the super convoluted PGA + mirrored creator + Cheek info dump that was crampes in the last 10 chapters, and volume 8 was back to peak again.

>>280115357
There's a tiny minority where the artist has done better than the original author and basically improved the series, but otherwise yeah it sucks.

>>280088801 (OP)
My friends were hyping this up like it was the greatest piece of fiction ever. Imo, it felt like a video game story. Idk, very mid.

>>280115584
The novel is great, I suppose they have a plan otherwise no idea why they're rushing so much.

>>280113964
Very different, the first two episodes covered 40+ chapters.

>>280115884
I read the first 5 chapters, really just feels like another isekai. Dont get me wrong the anime is disgustingly rushed and it 100% reduces the quality of it but nonetheless I honestly believe this is a psyop. They made this novel popular on tiktok and it is the first novel any of the tiktok generation ever sat down to read so they think its the greatest thing ever. People on /lit/ were right to call this chink slop ngl.

>>280115955
> really just feels like another isekai.
It's actually entertaining and it's in no way similar to other isekais.
>People on /lit/ were right to call this chink slop ngl.
People on lit call anything slop besides Dostoevsky, Proust and some others.

>>280115584
>>280115955
It is fantastic, but it does take a little bit to get going which I suppose is a little bit why they rushed the fuck out of the first two episodes and cut out 80% of the content from them.jvknr

>>280116032
>jvknr

>>280116059
I wondered where my first captcha went.
Ooops, bleh, teehee and all that.

>>280116011
I mean, they are not wrong. Dostoyevski is just that good, which is exactly my point. These people havent read much and they formed their opinion by Herd Behavior. Hate to seem like a sperg here, just from the way it was hyped to me I had a feeling it was gonna be kinda disappointing. Dont overrate things people, it sets expectations to high and makes disappointments a set outcome.

>>280115955
>2% of Volume 1 and .3% of the whole series
I mean you can't expect much from most series with only 5 chapters

>>280116207
I have no reference as to how big it is but 5 chapters was all I could manage before I lost interest. Im gonna read more when I have time because there are some interesting stuff from the first 2 episodes which could maybe give some spark to my interest levels but this is just probably not for me.

>>280116381
If generic sloppa with a main character who's always the strongest and coolest is your speed, then LotM maybe isn't for you.
If you like good writing and incredible depth, keep reading.

>>280116381
Huh, I usually go 30 chapters before I drop a series unless it's absolute garbage. I guess different people have different speeds and values.

>>280088801 (OP)
Not /a/. Here you go:
>https://www.novelupdatesforum.com/threads/lord-of-mysteries-donghua.192916/

>>280088801 (OP)
My body is ready

I watched the first episode of this and I have no idea what the fuck is supposed to be going on. It feels like I've been dropped in the middle of a long-running series and it expects me to already know its world, setting, lore and characters. I'm guessing this is intended for existing novel readers or something because as somebody who hasn't touched this series before it doesn't seem to be trying to make a good impression or a strong start.

>>280116692
Episode 2 is easier to follow.
t. first timer

>>280109349
I think an understated element of why it sucks is that Lumian's so powerful in direct combat compared to Klein. In LotM, Cuttlefish had to actually come up with creative ways for how Klein could win a fight. Lumian just fights whoever, whenever, and kills them. That's on top of Klein having arguably way fewer safety nets and way more to lose.

>>280116484
The 1st premise is exactly what disinterests me. The 2nd premise is what interests me. You figured it out bro.

>>280116692
It's the exactly the Your Forma style of adaptation but because it has 100x the budget suddenly it's called "peak" instead of "slop" like it deserves

>>280116692
They’re cramming 1/3 of the first volume into the first 3 episodes. Also even though they cut a lot of content they still made time to have anime-only flashy aura farming scenes that break canon.

The pathways having a separate name for each level of the path confused me at first. I thought Midnight Poet was different from Sleepless but it's actually just a low level step on the path. Damn it. Sometimes partial lore knowledge is worse than starting from zero lore knowledge.

>>280117092
Just watch the loredump mini episodes chud.

>>280116692
Please refer to the handy guide that's been written up:
>>280093113

>>280117138
When they get on nyaa

>>280117340
You could read the whole novel before that happens.

>>280117373
>read
I refuse

Its hilarious how bikini schizo manages to be completely wrong about everything regardless of what side he takes on this subject.

should i watch this or nah? tiktok says its going to get the anime of the year award

>>280118108
Give it a few episodes and check back again. Right now it has absolutely nothing of substance going for it, just MUH SAKUGA AURA FARMING PEAK KINO ANIMATION ABSOLUTE CINEMA meme nonsense.

>>280118108
I could be wrong, but I doubt it'll be "the next big thing." There's no emotional anchor here. I actually don't understand what the MC's goal is or what he's trying to do. At least Solo Leveling had the hot-blooded, "I want to get stronger" angle that was reinforced by him trying to help his sickly mother in a coma.

After two episodes, I still don't understand what the MC wants, why he becomes a beyonder, or why I should care.

>>280118246
I'm in the same boat, apparently he just wants to get back home but they skipped so much that motivation is mentioned in one throwaway line and we still don't have any real context or substance to it.

>could've been china's genshin of anime
>instead it's a laughable trainwreck embarrassment without even a dub
Xi should gulag whoever fucked this up so hard. There's barely any good chinese stories and they fucked up one of the most critically acclaimed.

I find it funny how only people who read the novel are complaining about the pacing...

>>280118108
>tiktok says
This is a major fucking problem. My fellow novel readers, we should have gate kept much harder.

>>280119056
why lol, only those people would know what's missing

>>280119219
>what's missing
That's not what pacing is.

>>280113800
So the same as Klein was secretly helped by Evernight, just that in Lumian's case the help was provided more openly?

>>280119269
Klein did kinda pull himself up by his own bootstraps though. With few exceptions, there's the grey fog and the fact he got handed his nightwatch job. Oh and Roselle's diaries.

I guess he did get help huh.

>>280119269
In Lumian's case the free shit he gets isn't just from helpers but also in terms of all the free powers and passive specialness he has crammed into him, including a power that gives him more powers (contractee) including the very valuable teleport and his boon pathway coincidentally providing passive counters to all the negative effects he's accumulating so it might as well not even exist and it's just pure free shit.

>>280118246
>After two episodes, I still don't understand what the MC wants, why he becomes a beyonder, or why I should care.
This is what im afraid the most fron the animeonly, I wish you guys can experience the slow life sol in the book, the people around him is the reason why he willing to sacrifice his life
to ascend to Godhood you need an anchor and Klein anchor are these people he meet along his journey, too bad they skip a lot of side characters screen time

>>280119550
Why are you dropping late game spoilers in response to people not understanding the first 2 episodes?

>>280119056
I guess maybe the pacing works for the zoomer tiktok brains.

>>280118246
Isn't it obvious? He wants to go home.

His ritual didn't work, and he needs another way. The most obvious way us beyonder powers through the Nighthawks or Tarot Club. The paths that would help would be the mystic-focused Seer and Mystery Pryer potions.

>>280090150
To be fair, Scholar of Yore is one of the safer rituals if not for the apocalypse deadline. The only true issue is lifespan but there are plenty of other ways to extend it.

>>280119835
>Isn't it obvious?
No, it's not obvious at all. That's exactly the problem. For one, everything is in Chinese, so I'm forced to read the subtitles and trust what they say.

More importantly though, there's no real emotional anchor to his desires as I'm getting bombarded with information left and right, and new characters constantly, and the MC has the memories of the person he reincarnated as, as well as his own old memories. I also don't fully understand how he Isekaied himself, or why, and how his perspective changed from whatever he did in his normal life in China to end up here in this fantasy world. And how he believes with so much certainty that whatever he's gonna do works. Especially as well since as well, like 10 mins into the first episode he has the ability to create this sort of psychic realm where he can communicate with these two people from other parts of the world, and despite just discovering he has this power, he confidently plays it up like he's in control. And I also don't understand how all this relates to the notes of the whatever family that's also somehow connected.

Like, I get that it's mystery, but the MC is acting in very incongruent ways with what should be his main goal, getting back, which itself isn't expressed emotionally correctly as we get like 2 lines at best of him vaguely mentioning he doesn't want people to know he's a time traveller or whatever. Plus, he also show kinship and affection for the new sister he has.

I'm struggling to even grasp what mysteries are even being set up, and how they relate to the MC on an emotional level. Everything is just dropped in a throwaway line of vague exposition with no real weight behind it.

It's not obvious at all.

>>280119835
>His ritual didn't work
Also, it would have helped to see him try to perform these rituals to get back, and express way more confusion at the fact that he's been isekaied and that he's alive and struggling to grasp the suddeness of everything.

>>280119269
In Kleins case Evernight bailed him out from an instantaneous death, and frankly the end of the fucking world. She absolutely had to do something but she went the extra mile because she has the connection with Isekai as someone from the same world. Klein then has to do everything himself with what he had available. Even the ownership of Sefirah Castle is tenuous at best until he becomes a demigod
In Lumians case The fool bails him out much the same like evernight did for him, but the big fucking difference is that the tarot club, filled with demigods are actively supporting him and giving him loads of shit at reduced costs BECAUSE they're grooming him to be one who wakes up The Fool. Even Adam and Amon are helping Lumian from the beginning, though we just don't know it at the time and their methods are far more crass.

>>280120230
You don't need to know how (at that point), he's in a new place with a bullet in his brain.

That's answered immediately after, the ritual he tries is obviously what he tried before in his own world. He doesn't know, but he's going to try it.

When it doesn't work he immediately said wtf. He doesn't know what the fog is and who those 2 are, but they seem to think he summoned them. They don't have control, but he seems to.

He feels kinship because he's in someone else's body, with their literally scrambled brain and scattered memories.

>>280104737
I agree but I think 4 still is fine.

>>280120501
And at that point he calls it a luck enhancement to improve his shitty luck. So obviously he tried it but he got isekai'd instead.

>>280120618
He tried it before pulling for gacha game

>>280120618
>be bugman in china
>bugwork not going to well
>decide to improve luck with occult ritual
>ritual isekai's him as a victorian era peasant in poverty
>in a world where thinking the wrong thing literally turns you into a pile of cocks and cunts fucking each other with puss flowing out of the holes
The luck enhancement ritual worked as advertised

>>280104737
That is a spicy opinion.
I really liked the high sequence segments with Merlin Hermes and Utopia.
Also, the Fools Gambit is contender for the best fight in fiction for me.

>>280120769
>not written as trvthnvke
(You) and the one who made that tweet had one job...

>>280120501
It's not made very clear though, that's the thing. The first episode should have gone out of its way to contextualize his experience and establish his goals with clarity, before jumping into all the weird crazy shit with the fog and stuff.

>>280121264
Blame tiktok aura farmers, blame the retard director who thinks appeasing that crowd is the most important thing.

>not enough lamponing
>no bread
>captain dementia
>madam Daly not "larping" as therapist
>old Neil screen time
>Benson being broke
>landlord
>Alger glazing
>Leonard monologue as the MC
what else do we miss?

>>280121264
I agree it's shorter than I'd like, but it's enough. He already said he wanted to be home for dinner.

>>280122079
Anon. I'm an anime only. It's not clear. I didn't fully understand his goals till this thread, and I still don't connect with them emotionally.

>>280122315
I'm an animeonly, I did understand and it's not hard, it's just clearly relying more on show-don't-tell and yes the first episode is too jam packed but that is a completely different issue from what all these shitposts are saying the problem is.
Things like the blond guy watching Klein from the window in the bread store, followed by the cat-mouse chase sequence being a metaphor for how Klein feels when he thinks hes being followed.
Or how the moment the investigator starts questioning Klein, there's a literal fish jumping out of the water 'fish out of water'
How young are people who are watching this? Report your age.
30.

>>280122565
Couple years older. Same, wasn't super confusing as long as you use your brain and pause or rewatch.

Only a couple things about knowing which date it was after waking up, or immediately getting an offer to be a Beyonder threw me off.

>>280122565
>it's just clearly relying more on show-don't-tell
>It's literally never shown, just told in a couple throwaway likes of dialogue.

>Report your age.
35 and I'm a writer bro. Idk how the novel does it, but the anime is doing a terrible job establishing a clear emotional connection to the protagonist. Idk why I'm supposed to care who this fucker is or what he wants and why because it's never properly conveyed through the story. He just wakes up in someone else's body, goes off to huy bread, and shit starts to happen. He doesn't have any believable reactions to any of what's happening. His emotions remain constantly flat throughout, and there's no human desire in any of what he does.

I got by around the second episode ir whatever that he had a vague desire to go back. Or when that psychic girl interrogated him. But him running into the cops and all this shit about the notes, it's all being thrown at me left and right, and the protagonist just goes along with everything the plot throws at home so we're supposed to as well. It feels extremely self insert. Almost like the MC isn't a character but a vessel for the audience. I don't understand anything about this person or what they want and I can't connect with them on an emotional levels because there's barely any character there at all.

>>280122770
>Writer
I'm a principal data scientist and director of a country Mensa.

>>280122865
Cool story bro, but idk how that's relevant to the conversation.

>>280122990
It means I know logic when I see it, and ep 1 is pretty damn logical. It needs no special guesses or leaps except for the date or the offer to be a Beyonder.

He acts like a local on the outside because he has the body and mind of a local, and it would be dumb to act otherwise

>>280123126
Cool. Too bad you failed to process that the point of storytelling is to stir emotions in the audience. This isn't a textbook.

>>280122865
>I'm a principal data scientist and director of a country Mensa.
so a midwit

>>280123154
Not everyone has to panic or spill his spaghetti externally all the damn time like a Subaru. Not is it a given that the point of storytelling, or of every scene is to stir gross emotions.

If anything, I disliked the overuse of special effects and music from the director to try to stir emotion.

Klein showed initial panic and shock, cynical humor, fear during the encounters with the Nighthawks etc. He just doesn't spill his spaghetti like Subaru.

>>280123359
Maybe it's your logic brain that doesn't jet you follow the point I'm making here, or maybe this anon is right >>280123164

Idk why your defense for obviously flawed execution in the writing is "but I'm smart, I get it" when the point of this entire conversation started with
>Idk if this will connect with mainstream audiences and be "the next big hit" because I'm having a hard time following what's going on and connecting with the MC.

You have to understand z the average IQ is 100 for something to connect with a Mainstream audience, it needs to be emotionally CLEAR. No, this doesn't mean the MC has to spill their spaghetti over every little thing. Emotional connection doesn't mean the MC has to be hyper emotional, it means you can relate to their desire and motivation and plan of action on a emotional level. I already mentioned Solo Leveling as an example, which I personally don't consider to be all that great either, but at least the first season lays down the fundamental elements of storytelling clearly and gets you to care about the MC.

The emotional connection can be simple an understated, but it has to be highlighted and clear. Think of Anakin being saved by Qui Gon in episode 1 and saying goodbye to his mom. You GET IT in that moment, you feel what the MC is feeling. Not once did I get that from LotM. The MC doesn't feel HUMAN. This might ge fine for you, because this doesn't matter to your and the promise of Isekai power wank I've seen mentioned ITT is enough to get you invested. That's fine, I doubt it'll connect to mainstream audiences. Especially since Japanese media on the whole does tend to put character first.

>Tencent forced them to make the Clown Fight by Episode 3 or they wouldn't sign
Ah. That explains a lot.

>>280122770
>He just wakes up in someone else's body, goes off to huy bread
You mean he wakes up, gets told by his bodies sister to go buy bread which he also needs for the ritual to attempt to go home? He says that as he places the bread in his room. His sister had asked him to get food as well.
He's clearly paranoid and seeing a guy stop and stare at him through the window made him suspicious, which is why he runs and ducks into a tent.
You're so dishonest with how you're portraying this as 'things just happen' i already agreed that way too much happens way too fast that's obvious enough to anybody who watched the episode but to say it makes no sense? come on. myself included there are other animeonlys that are following what is happening.
And yeah, the show is called Lord of Mysteries do you actually want these mysteries explained the instant they're introduced?

please try to explain your position to me without relying on rehashing 'pacing is too fast like you did with
>But him running into the cops and all this shit about the notes, it's all being thrown at me left and right

>>280117092
I think Crunchyroll missed the translation on this part too

>>280123698
CR fucked up the TL so hard. Not to mention doesn't even advertise this is airing anywhere. Look elsewhere to watch this going forward.

>>280123589
Doesn't feel human to you. The prequels aren't exactly great cinema, you know.

There's a couple of main things that people think of when they're trapped somewhere new. Become the king or get home. And from his constant state of heightened paranoia and thoughts of home it's pretty obvious that it's home for this dude. He's watching for followers, hand on his gun, ducking into shadows and starting all the time. When he gets a chance he straight up runs. He wants to get out. It's not like this is difficult to see and feel.

>>280123808
Or rather, a couple of standard plots

>>280123793
Yeah usually big release like this is accompanied by gi**k shilling the series.

>>280123859
>the "watch anime in 1.5x speed to save time" guy
I fucking hate him

>>280123636
>And yeah, the show is called Lord of Mysteries do you actually want these mysteries explained the instant they're introduced?
I'd like for them to be portrayed as why they're relevant to the MC on an emotional level.

The Guy Richie Sherlock Holmes films are a perfect example.

Why does Sherlock take the case? Not only because it stirs his curious mind, but because Watson is getting married and leaving, abd Sherlock feels emotionally conflicted about losing his lifelong partner and best friend and not getting to work together anymore, but is unable to tell this to him directly, so he constantly emotionally manipulates him and strings him along so they can work together.

We can nice follow the case of how Lord Blackwood rose from the dead, because we have a clear emotional anchor for why this matters to the protagonist.

Additionally, the film went out of its way to establish that Blackwood was executed and pronounced dead for his crimes, bit that he's a sorcerer. Something is afoot here, there's a scientific explanation for everything, let's get to the bottom of things.

Second movie is the same. Someone is blowing things up with bombs. The love of Sherlock's life is killed. And Moriarty threatens Watson and his wife. It's personal.

A mystery needs clear set ups and an emotional anchor a reason for readers ro care.

You don't just get to throw shit at the wall without properly establishing the world, characters, and stakes and then just go BUT IT'S A MYSTERY!!!

Blame Tencent for your complaints of the first 3 episodes. Turns out they forced the studio to make the Clown fight by episode 3.

>>280123808
>The prequels aren't exactly great cinema, you know.
Contrary to popular belief, they are, actually. And I've always stood by this. Maybe don't get your opinions from Reddit and the guys that said JJ Abrams would be a better director for Star Wars than George Lucas? Just saying.

>>280123623
>>280123984
Ok bros two more weeks!

>>280123993
Not him, but being contrarian to plebbit doesn't make all your opinions correct. Prequels are garbage.

>>280124142
>No u
Riveting argument.

>>280124177
You haven't given any argument as to why prequels are good. There's nothing to counter.

>>280124209
Because it's 1:30 am and I'm getting ready to sleep and this thread has like 30 posts left before bump limit, and I know you don't actually care to about the topic. You've already convinced yourself of your own opinions, so there's no real point in even starting an argument as you're not approaching things with an open mind hoping to learn something new. You're convinced your opinions are correct because that's what you've heard parroted for decades now and never bothered to properly watch the prequels or understand them. Hell, when was the last time you watched the prequels? People who don't like the Prequels don't actually like Star Wars, they just view they OT through rose tinted glasses. All the criticisms of the Prequels can be levied at the OT as well because they're not actually valid.

>>280124362
>still no argument
Yawn

>>280123909
Thank you. That's a much more fair criticism.
From what I'm hearing from the novel readers this isn't the case in the source, which would mean that what the director had said about the first couple episodes being rushed is true.

>>280124425
It's still wrong. See.
>>280123808
The stakes are simple, he wants to get the hell out and the emotions are clear.

>>280124425
I mean, I'm not criticizing the source material. I might actually just go read that. I'll say one good thing about the show. I love visuals and aesthetic. I'm just doubtful it'll catch on with the mainstream like SL did. Getting your emotional hook is crucial to establishing an audience. I think the show will be popular with novel fans mostly. It feels made for them with how it rushed the start.

>>280124476
>It's still wrong.
Feel free to screencap my post and laugh in my face if the show gets as big as SL. I doubt it will. Then you say I'm wrong all you like. When it doesn't though. Even though you'll never admit it, you'll know I was right.

>>280124583
Illogical as always. On one hand, popularity isn't the mark of quality. On the other hand, it's already got millions of viewers in China, so that must mean it's very good.

>>280124583
SL had a japanese dub. No chink anime is getting as big as that.

>>280124529
>I'm just doubtful it'll catch on with the mainstream like SL did
I would prefer if it didn't, these threads are bad enough as is.
I do apologize I assumed you were one of the retards who have been shitposting over the past few days. I'm enjoying it but I'm seeing so many insanely retarded takes that boil down to "chinks bad, pacing bad" instead of actually discussing what is and isn't good with the adaptation.
The biggest surprise for me was the use of CG, it doesn't feel as grating and I think that's because of how heavily it's used, but it also looks like they used hand-drawn cells as textures for those CG models

>>280124701
Anon. The entire conversation has been about the potential for mass appeal. For someone preaching logic you struggle with basic reading comprehension. Anyway, 2am. Goodnight.

>>280124803
I like the visuals and I'm a sucker for Gothic Horror. I'm gonna keep watching for that alone. I just need a Jdub, I hate Chinese as a language, and I also can't understand shit without subs in Chinese.

>>280124808
Potential is one thing, but whether it happens or not isn't the mark of properly portrayed emotion and hook. My favorite anime is LoGH, it's not exactly popular, despite having all the requirements

You only moved the goalposts to mass appeal after we started pushing your shit in. Before it was just emotion and hook.

But, like I said, it's already wildly popular.

>>280124884
>we started pushing your shit in.
Is that what you call it?
>Before it was just emotion and hook.
My stance hasn't changed. Learn to follow a simple conversation Mr. Logic.

>>280124938

Yes. This was your original argument.>>280124938

I see why should I care about this guy, he has no emotion. All these things were proven wrong. It wasn't about mass appeal.

>>280124938
Your attempt at gaslighting and goalpost moving is embarassing, honestly.

>>280124938
This was your original post
>>280122770
>Why should I care, he has no emotions, his actions make no sense
It wasn't about mass appeal, and all those were answered.

>>280124938
This was your original post
>>280122770
>Why should I care, he doesn't have believable actions, he has no emotions etc.

All those were answered

The world building and power system are points in its favor, but ultimately I thought the novel was a very dry read. The characters aren't charming or interesting, which is ultimately the main issue because these web novels are primarily character-focused by necessity of their format. It's all but impossible to have a tight, polished plot-driven story when your work is released runningly and spans 1000+ chapters with several detours and uneven narrative emphasis, so succesful works tend to get by on the charisma of their characters, particularly the protagonist.
Klein is a pretty solid character but in a way that's more fitting of a set-piece in the background than a member of the main cast. He doesn't have a strong personality to bounce off other characters in entertaining ways, nor does he have a particular flaw or quirk that can make for an compelling character arc. He's not interesting enough to carry such a long story on his own, and the other characters are much the same. Not astoundingly bad, just bland and superficial. They're not people whose interactions you want to spend days of your life reading about.
I thought this flaw was immediately apparent from the beginning but the initial parts at least had enough momentum to keep reading, in large part because of the sense of mystery. The mystery inevitably dries up some dozens of chapters in for the same reason plot-driven stuff isn't popular in WNs, because the format makes that sort of narrative too diffuse and bloated to be viable much further beyond the intro. Then the only thing that could possibly make you want to keep reading is if you're dying to see what Klein's next level up looks like, which anyone should know as the most empty and substance-less type of engagment device.

is this cultivationslop?

>>280125440
Yes but no.

>>280125440
A weird lovecraftian inspired spin on it, basically.

Do any of the Tarot Club members ever figure out that Klein is larping? It's giving me that Overlord vibe.

>>280125440
If you squint hard enough you could call it a cultivation novel, but not really.

>>280126024
No and he's actually an incredibly competent person and expect things to ramp up close to Death Note levels later, it's just that for now he's been dumped into this unfamiliar world and he only found out about Beyonders in the same conversation that he was asked about them.

>>280126024
In the sequel, they will have learned about his origin as a transmigrator, but like the other anon said, Klein is incredibly competent. He only ever gave them small amounts of information that weren't even technically lies. It was their own assumptions that lead them to believe he was a god, he never confirmed nor denied those allegations, and they never even voiced them. The world of Beyonders is all amount what you know and what you don't

>>280122770
>35 and I'm a writer
>bro
Frfr no cap on a stack you feel me senpai I'm a legit writer I'm old af I write all the time on Mongolian basket weaving forums I know what I'm talking about

>>280089059
This is Taiwanese and not mainland slop? Picked up.

>>280126504
It's not occupied islander slop thankfully.

>>280126850
Lmao seething commie

>>280126850
>it IS worst China
It's so over

>>280125440
It's Xuanhuan, not Xianxia, but I've seen a lot of Xuanhuan novels get called Cultivation so the answer you're looking for is probably 'yes'.

>>280126024
I haven't read the sequel but, if I remember correctly, at the end of the novel it is implied that Audrey figured it out.

>>280127167
>spoiler
Not really? She only figures out that Gehrman Sparrow isn't actually a cold-blooded killer, he's just a good guy who wants to protect his friends or something.

>>280127269
I'll take your word for it.

>>280127297
I mean, no idea about the sequel, but that's how the first one ended. She saw some of his memories, but only while he presented himself as Gehrman, not The Fool.

my friends watched the donghua and they all liked it, you guys are just dooming too hard ngl

Mellisa knows Klein is the Fool confirmed by the author.

I watched Episode 1.

God damn Chinese is hard to listen to.

>>280125440
Technically no but functionally yes.

>>280127642
Isn't that just straight up in the epilogue?

>>280127915
Unironically one of the worst sounding languages on earth.

>>280128265
Tonal languages do be like that.

>>280127642
But does she know that the fool bodyjacked her brother's corpse?

>>280128342
>Spoiler
No

Decuck

I wish this show wasn't in this bizarre aspect ratio.