Netflix says 50% of its userbase watches anime
What the hell changed with the normalfags? If you told me 10 years ago that anime would become this mainstream I would’ve laughed in your face

10 years ago was 2015 anime was already mainstream with dragon ball super, umaru and one punch man

>Nerdy boys like [thing]
>Hot boys get into thing next after giving it a shot
>Girls then invade [thing] to get closer to hot boys
>Nerdy boys get kicked out of [thing]
Many such cases.

>>280421421 (OP)
"watches" as in accidentally clicks on one of the ads they obnoxiously throw in their face and then immediately close the browser

>>280421505
Grim

>>280421421 (OP)
>took 25 years for Wan Piss to go mainstream outside of Japan and France

>>280421421 (OP)
Anime was already mainstream in the 2000s in some american TV channels

>hollywood is cooked
>99% of everything out of hollywood is complete fucking trash in 2025
what else are people going to watch? the news? its pretty much the news, anime, trash, or rewatching old shit for the 100th time

Anime became mainstream in summer 2015, and it was all over by 2018.

>>280421421 (OP)
They make nothing but woke garbage that continually flopped while the demand for entertainment is still there so people are going to a different source. We can only hope Japan realizes it’s because they aren’t modern west which is why the popularity is increasing.

>>280421421 (OP)
Because the American cartoon industry completely shat it's pants in the 2010s and anime took it's mantle

>>280421421 (OP)
People stopped immediately assuming cartoons were only for children. Likewise, people are more open to reading subtitles than they were in the past, so subtitled anime is much more appealing now that they don't hear SHA FOO CHING SHING CHONG or whatever they heard prior. Companies are more willing to expand their horizons to new forms of media, and anime was a form of media that was basically a gold mine left unmined.

Normalfags are the gold rush miners of anime. Us older viewers are simply equivalent to natives who saw it and lived alongside it.

Chainsaw Man, Evangelion, Utena, Frieren and Jujutsu Kaisen are my 5 favorite animes btw

>>280421421 (OP)
Maybe since there are a million streaming services now, and Netflix's originals suck, normalfags don't watch Netflix anymore so the only people subscribing are there for the anime? I pirate everything, I have no idea how streaming works or what is on which platform so this is just a guess

Netflix considers like 3/4 of the animated productions they put on their shitsite “anime” regardless of where it was made/produced.

I wouldn’t call this an accurate metric at all.

There has been a drastic uptick in normalfag viewers though

>>280421421 (OP)
>there's loads of it to watch and an enormous back catalogue of cheap anime that netflix can rent for peanuts
>heaps of animes are family friendly, or at least familyesque oriented, and some of the betters ones at that (spy x family)
>parents have trouble telling the difference between edgelord anime and isekais/shounens so kids can sneakily watch edgy shit all the time, increasing view count
>most importantly, western live-action tv shows and movies have never had worse writing, uglier characters, shittier direction, lower iqs, and lower quality in general than ever before, this has left a quality-vacuum to occur.

simple.

>>280421651
stop being a pleb and go watch Apocalypse Hotel, its on crunchyroll if you're a paypig for streaming services, otherwise pirate.

>>280421421 (OP)
Ok but why does /a/ love Netflix so much.

>>280421722
Are there really that many animated productions that aren't anime though? I thought most of them flopped outside of Arcane like that Tomb Raider thing, whatever the bi sex Zack Snyder thing, and uuhhh that big head pedo show.

>>280421869
I don't watch non-classic and non-elitist anime, soz sweetie. ;)

Why is this not reflected by /a/? The board is much less active than it was a decade ago.

>>280421421 (OP)
I've seen this thread 5 times this week
>>280421915
Because the nu-weebs don't come to /a/

>>280421915
4chan in general is dying. its a good thing. in 10 years or so we'll all be free.

>>280421915
probably the army of anime-podcast and review channels out there that replace the discussions here for most. Not everyone enjoys having to deal with crybaby spergs, obnoxious pedos and furries, and REEEE-fests when they just want to see other people love the anime they like.

>>280422008
is right, 4chan is a bit of a relic for millenials, text-based communications like this are outdated as fuck. Hell, the other chans have a heap of features 4chan still lacks due to the kikery of the owner+mods and the outdated code, where's our audio-webms?

>>280421915
>>280421944
feels like something that shouldnt be taken for granted

>>280421421 (OP)
Anime has been mainstream for over a decade, anon. It hasn't been a niche thing in forever.

>>280421579
Sports are the only thing keeping cable tv alive, and i guess cable news too

>>280421421 (OP)
Anime was mainstream 30 years ago when I was a little kid. I don't understand why neo-4chan postersk eep making posts like these.

>>280421421 (OP)
You must not have been here when SnK came out in 2013.

Has anyone experienced this phenomena in real life? I once overheard a sub vs dub debate at a restaurant I was eating at

>>280421421 (OP)
tourists ITT will blame wokeness, but the real reason is that most anime have a shorter amount of seasons and it isn't one note. an anime show about the prohibtion era will be a murder mystery, horror movie, crime flick, and comedy film at the same time (Baccano)

>>280421915
Everyone moved on to vtubers, the current userbase is mostly post-covid new people.

Netflix isn't the entire anime industry you retarded faggots.

>>280421915
because you smell

>>280421421 (OP)
Animefags grow up and dictate what's "normal" through their likes and habits.
Pic related.

More people are watching anime occasionally I'm sure, but it doesn't seem to the level of peeps who talk about sports or super hero movies or horror movies, at least not at my work. There is only one so-so fan of anime I've found so far at work, and he's far from being on top of the new seasonal schedules like me.

>>280421421 (OP)
AoT was everywhere 10 years ago

>>280421455
?
All those shows came out like two or three years ago

>>280421421 (OP)
You are 20 years too late anon. Normalfags have always watched anime. The thing is, people are just now realizing it's making real numbers.

>>280421455
The year everything changed.

>>280421915
reading pajeet and seanigger nonsense here is pure repellent

>>280421915
because the same threads every day make /a/ a dull place

>>280421915
Do you really want twittoids to flock to this place more than they already have?

>>280421915
have you seen the state of /a/?
>>280419141
>>280417913
>>280419140
>>280419086

>>280421915
Imageboards are dying in general, that's a worldwide thing. Dvach might be the only one still going strong and consistently getting new meat. current teens would just rather use discord. Every hobby group is discord now.

>>280422083
I checked out the sharty during the great exile and it was fucking horrible but being able to post multiple images at a time was a neat feature.

>>280423081
Soul. I wish bots would spam loli.

>>280421505
>>Nerdy boys get kicked out of [thing]
nerdy boys throw a hissy fit about the normies invading their secret club and ragequit

>>280421505
Damn you for speaking the truth.

>>280421421 (OP)
>What the hell changed with the normalfags?
Honestly I think the biggest factor is Hollywood and western media is so fucking awful now even the biggest normalfag has gotten fed up with it to some degree.
Also only certain genres of anime, mainly shonenshit and romcoms, can be considered mainstream now.

>>280421421 (OP)
My dad was flipping through Netflix one time and came upon Baki the Grappler and watched the entire preview like he was considering actually watching it.

Anime has always been popular.
Since the 90s, shit like DBZ, Sailor Moon, Pokemon were universally popular.
Even my mom got to watch shit like Heidi, Maya Bee, speedracer and G-force (gatchaman).

The "niche anime era" is a misconception, it was due to lack of access during the time public TV that would air anything cheap, lost to Cable services, which were ran by retarded boomers obsessed with localization and the early internet when it was hard to translate and transfer large files.

Notice how the popularity of anime correlates with access to internet and optic fiber.

This is not a good thing. More anime needs to be gatekept. We have enough
>"Eww, why is this show sexualizing high schoolers!?!"
>"This is too violent, aren't cartoons for kids?"
>"I don't want my kids watching these perverted Japanese cartoons!"
Death to normies. Kill normies. Behead normies. Roundhouse kick normies into a woodchipper. Slam dunk normies into the trashcan. Crucify filthy normies. Defecate in normies' food. Launch normies into the sun. Toss normies into active volcanoes. Twist normies head off. Karate chop normies in half. Crush normies in the trash compactor. Liquefy normies in a vat of acid. Stomp normie skulls with steel-toed boots. Holocaust normies in the oven. Feed normies to alligators. Slice normies into pieces with a katana.

>>280424254
based

>>280421421 (OP)
Garbage western productions mostly. The accessibility to it as well helped a lot as downloading shows back in the days is way too hard for most younger or newer people.

Also note the shows that are 'popular' with younger folks that are consuming this content is just shounen or power fantasy slop like Solo Leveling.

>>280421421 (OP)
The west isn't doing stuff that people want to watch or discuss online.

That's all, people want to be entertained and feel like they are a part of something as well.

>>280424254
>normies
How 'bout you follow your own advice and gatekeep yourself the fuck out of here?

Japan stopped fucking around and actually started to market to western piggu

you guys do know that netflix is pretty disingenuous about its viewing stats, right? your mom accidentally starting an episode for 2 minutes in the background while she scrolls through her phone counts as a view in netflix's eyes.

>>280423081
Miu spotted

I think the shows the netflix audience watches and the shows /a/ watches aren't really overlapping very much. It won't change much in the same way that video games didn't change much when they went mainstream, a new tier was just created to corral the normalfags and the lower budget studios (same budget as the old AAA) carried on making Underage Panty Quest XIV for the nerd audience.

>>280421421 (OP)
meaning their movies/series are so trash that people watch anime lol.

>>280421421 (OP)
Uh oh weeabros, looks like we didn't gatekeep our hobby well enough. Time to find a new one. It's not like we watch anime anyway.

Have you seen western entertainment since like 2012? Don't want to go into a /pol/ rant but I'm pretty sure it was a huge reason.

>>280421421 (OP)
REAL TALK
Japan can't help itself. Japanese animanga culture cannot afford to be exclusively domestic, because it is the ONLY Japanese product that is competitive and unique then ever growing in the global market right now. The car and all the 1000-folded old Japanese manufacturing industry is going under and barely surviving because the giant China has completely dominated the market. You remember when Getchu denied all the foreign IPs like more than a decade ago? Forget about it, it CAN'T afford it now so it is aggressively advertising foreign shipments of eroge. You can't gatekeep shit piggu anons, it is their surviving strategy. Any Japanese anons will agree with this.

>>280424254
>gatekeep
There is no such thing as gatekeeping in 2025. Every single teenage egirl is playing Saya no Uta and other eroge now.

>>280421505
>>280421455
Kinda funny seeing the zoomer normies who ruined anime for us Millennials are now old enough to act like normies ruined anime for them.
SAO came out in fucking 2012. You zoomzooms grew up in the age of isekai and "video game fantasy" slop. Your formative shonens were Jujutsu Kaisen and Demon Slayer. You have no right to act like anime was ever good during your lifetime. You weren't even born yet when anime was good.

>>280425588
>Misaki
Kill yourself.

>>280421455
>>280421421 (OP)
mainstream anime is popular. anime is not. the catalog netflix has is all curated for mass appeal. they barely have any genres popular with actual anime fans like isekai, harems, slice of life etc. it's either super hero battle shonen or artsy stuff like violet evergarden and frieren. but you wouldn't find something like the monogatari series on there.

'anime' anime is still seen as degenerate to the majority of the world which is why it's still segregated to dedicated anime only platforms like crunchyroll.

>>280425814
>popular with actual anime fans like isekai, harems
unironically kill yourself

>>280421421 (OP)
anime has ALWAYS been a normalfag medium

>>280425852
but you know it's true. there wouldn't be so many if it weren't extremely popular

>>280421421 (OP)
So nothing changed.

>>280422083
And yet none of them of have a thread watcher how innovative.

>>280421421 (OP)
>What? You're telling me that not-so-subtle reference of politics, shitty writting and capeshit-like humor doesn't sell anymore? WHO COULD'VE THOUGHT?
You're expecting me to say something like
>Now the JPs VILL kneel towards westoid standards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude, only the mainstream ones will do or animation studios who want to play it safe. On vidya, it's because payment processors are more worried about """muh BRAND IMAGE""" than acting like a service, I mean, why the fuck does a payment processor has a say towards politics? I'm not seeing them taking stands towards women getting groomed into making an onlyfans fresh out of highschool. Hypocrites, all of em'.

>>280426008
apologies. I meant to say why does a payment processor has a say towards morality?

>>280426048
you know why but /a/ is not /pol/ so let's not get into it

>>280423015
Oh GOD no! Anything but the xittoids! It gets really tiring getting preached on by some 17-year-old about morality when all of their talking points they took it out from some e-celebs And most of the people here watch anitubers for Christ's sake! Don't try to deny it faggots! I've been lurking these past few weeks!

>>280422083
The other chans are also terrible though. They might be better than vanilla 4chan but they're still trash
The only decent user experience is 4chan + 4chan X/XT

>>280426140
>Anitubers
I really hate to sound like an oldfren, but the fact that young zoom-to-@s without independent and critical thinking skills really tend to watch those anituber ecelebs and absorb those opinions as theirs is baffling to me. NPCs in the making just like Reddit

>>280425255

Then why is it that most mixed media franchises Japan starts keep 98% of what those mixed media franchises offer to themselves and only 2% of those mixed media franchises are the ones brought over to English-speaking countries?

>>280426369
you say that like Boomers, Gen X, and Millennials weren't all raised absorbing the opinions of talking heads like stephen colbert, oprah, joe rogan, and anyone else that could get a tv show
and before that it was radio shock jockeys and newspaper owners tell people what to think
not to mention church leaders, gentlemens clubs, magazine publishers, and every other platform from the dawn of time that can be used to tell people what to think in a way that makes them feel informed and in possession of correct opinions
Humans are social animals. The majority of people would rather have a leader than be a leader

>>280421421 (OP)
ppl became manchild no wonder anime is on the rise

>>280421505
Joke's on you, I'm here to rape nerdy boys.

>>280424451
>puts "Nnormies" in a green arrow

>>280424862
/a/ watches shows?

>>280421455
Those shows were popular among anime fans, now anime is popular among the general audience. Anime is no longer something for kids, teens and nerds. Mothers of two watch shows like Made in Abyss now, my dentist recognized my stealth anime T-shirt and told me she is a fan too, hell, we had vtuber and baseball collabs in usa.

>>280426720
One punch man was massive with non anime fans.

After 2015, people would post haha funny smug anime picture but state they don't actually care about anime and think it's lame but once they confirmed their normalfag peers were okay with anime from [Streaming Service tm], it's okay to like and watch anime.

>>280421915
4chan has been dying for years due to poor moderation by idiot trannies. The entire site has been taken over by literal bots, literal discord tranny psyopers, special interest groups, and dumb foreigners from places like India

>>280421421 (OP)
they all watch slop thoughbeit. mind you, the shit produced by that indian guy and other faggots in the us also count as "anime" on netflix. one could also argue that avatar the last airbender is an anime too. normalfags on netflix will never watch haruhi, monogatari, and other niche anime.

>>280426784
Still not 50% of a non-anime platform

>>280427059
Still massive

>>280421421 (OP)
Anime was already mainstream 10 yrs ago you dumb fucking faggot. Stop making this retarded thread already >>280349990

>>280427079
5% vs 50%
It was massive back then when anime still was an obscure and often looked down hobby but now that is nothing. Now old ladies who used to watch live action drama series are watching that anime about some super capable herbalist or something

>>280427144
>Now old ladies who used to watch live action drama series are watching that anime about some super capable herbalist or something
You lying

How much of that is series for children like Pocket Monsters?

>>280427124
it's jeremy. all he does is flood the catalogue with as many spam threads as possible because he hates /a/

>>280421421 (OP)
>Netflix says 50% of its userbase watches anime
>What the hell changed with the normalfags?
Nothing. Netflix is trying to sell fake statistics.
I can guarantee you that any user that has at least half an episode of episode ONE of an anime watched is included here, even if it was accidentally auto-played.
Show me analytics in correlation to finished episodes or even finished seasons and they can make this claim, otherwise it's fake marketing bullshit.

>>280421421 (OP)

>>280425354
>source: my ass

>>280427230
or just statistics of "time watched per genre" or whatever

>>280427165
Why should I? Those are the same kind of stories these people used to consume but often with better story and with better music, they just need to get over any prejudice against “cartoons” people have been consuming crap series for a long time and as western media degenerates and anime becomes more easily available these older people started consuming it too. You can’t expect them to find a tracker and torrent anime, now streaming services are full of anime and it is easily accessible to tech illiterate people as much as cable tv used to be. How many anime shows were available on Netflix in 2010 vs now?

>>280421421 (OP)
blame zoomers, social media and Nu-adultswim/toonami, back when I was in highschool if you talked about anime you'd be in the nerd/outcast/otaku crowd for watching Chinese cartoons and god forbid if you watched anything in subtitles where you had to read.

>>280426516
Streaming, eroge and countless merchs are all available to the world. "Why don't you translate it all!" is a non issue, just like Hollywood doesn't give a damn about those things
>>280426516
I am a millennial and have strictly avoided those abominations you aforementioned so it's an invalid point. And it is not even some political opinion, it is an art and entertainment so you DON'T need any 'guidance' or whatsoever. Literally some clownish talking heads making money out of this BECAUSE it is foreign, and somewhat they present themselves they having more knowledge about it and low bar gatekeeping ability for it.

This is why pantyshots get censored. For globalhomo.

>>280427424
The second one meant for >>280426600

>>280421505
Surprised no one posted it.
>>280421651
That is the most interesting splattering of shows I could imagine. I would guess you haven't seen too much and like Evangelion and Utena are like 2 of like 4 random classics you actually decided to watch.
>>280424254
This guy gets it
>>280425588
If your using SAO as the benchmark for main stream then the formative shounens would have been HxH and FMAB. I do see your point but it is worth mentioning that the popularity of anime world wide just about doubled during covid according to Google search data. So its inarguable that anime discourse got significantly worse during this time period and thereafter. I do see your point though anime wasn't as good in the 2010s as it was in 2000s and so on and so on. I would argue that covid was just the tipping point where it crossed so far into mainstream that it snowballed out of control and now its just pure normie property.
>>280426140
Anitubers don't even exist at this point they all retired or moved on to broader subjects. Anitubers in general was way more of a 2010s thing, now its just tiktok edits and whatever anime has the coolest fight scene or the characters with the most "aura".

>>280427233
There are two threads with this same exact thing. They want to turn this into twitter RSS feed general and basically outsource all opinions. They don't even have the decency to just pots the article itself, it NEEDS to be his twitter screenshot so we know its from twitter and X number of people liked it

>>280427616
>Anitubers don't even exist at this point they all retired or moved on to broader subjects. Anitubers in general was way more of a 2010s thing, now its just tiktok edits and whatever anime has the coolest fight scene or the characters with the most "aura".
Take my upvote for the algorithm.

>>280424254
Sadly I agree. Problem is we need to push them away from the Japanese Anime, and into other safe content. Because we have been getting this for almost the decade now of Zoomers hating JP Video Games, JP Anime, and everything Japanese related. But somehow it has worked slowly for Gacha to move them into Hoyoverse with CN Gacha and push them there. Maybe somehow Manhwa and other indirect pushes would work better.

>A mere mention of Nipshit gaining popularity
>People are frothing on their mouth
Not gonna lie, at this point it doesn't sound like "I'm fighting against censorship" anymore and more like "I hate Nips and i want them to fail

>>280427424
>it doesn't apply to me so I'm just going to ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist

>>280421455
>>280422757
I'd pinpoint the year everything changed to be 2012, with jojo. Although the English dub for maximum normalfag reach didn't start until 2016 it was already mainstream in the west from the start.

>>280421421 (OP)
There has to be at least 1 per year that isn't tailored to offshore normies, right? Just one, r-right?

>>280425852
>dude, I can't watch that show it's for losers
Is the call of the anti-isekaifag.

>>280421421 (OP)
Anime was already 100% mainstream 10 years ago, dumb zoomer tourist.

>>280427863
99% of them you mean? What alternate reality do you live in

>>280427860
No, it was in 2013 with SNK.

>>280426784

Why was this shit anime popular?

>>280427946
It was stupid, edgy and with no moe whatsoever.

This thread is a good example of how mainstream media manipulates low-IQ people. The person who made that title understands that a stupid person will get the impression that anime is 50% of Netflix’s viewership. In reality, it just means 50% of Netflix’s users (accounts) have watched at least one anime program. When you consider that a single account can be shared across an entire family that becomes even less impressive. Everyone who understood this immediately without it being explained to you have triple-digit IQs.

>>280421583
Goblin slayer & Mushoku Tensei were the last ones

>>280421651
Wow. Your "taste" is like if someone only chose anime from the reddit top 10 charts, and never tried something because it has an compelling synopsis, or interesting aesthetic, or one of the girls is hot, etc

>>280427857
AND the selling of animanga can't be better than ever. Git gud

>>280427991
I had this thought for like a few seconds but then realized it should be 0% so I'm still mad

>>280421651
>anons replying to this post seriously

>>280427424

>>280421421 (OP)
It kind of makes sense, all the other famous non-anime shows like Squid Game and Stranger Things takes years of production to come out, while there's always a new seasonal anime you can watch every 3 months.
It doesn't help that Netflix drops their entire season in one day so everyone watched it in one weekend then go back to watching something else (like anime) or stop using Netflix until the next season comes out.

>thread still up
Do your fucking jobs jannies.

>>280425255
And a lot of People are still using Japanese cars

>>280425255
>The car and all the 1000-folded old Japanese manufacturing industry is going under and barely surviving because the giant China has completely dominated the market.
Chinkshills are the most pathetic human being that i have ever seen in my entire life

doesnt netflix default dubbed

>>280421421 (OP)
People seemsto shit themselves at the mere mention of Japan gaining a modicum of popularity or success nowadays. And we are always the target of their seethe

>>280421421 (OP)
I bet it's something like non-anime watchers dropping netflix in droves instead of more non-anime watchers becoming anime watchers.

The only stuff I watch there is anime like Baki, Bastard, all the 3D crap and western anime suck ass.

>twitter screencap thread
How does /a/ do it? Even with all its’ flaws it still manages to maintain a level of quality far above the other media boards

>>280424451
I will, after I've purged all the rest of them.

>Netflix says 50% of their global users now watch anime

even worse, almost 100% of that 50% watch dubbed anime

>>280421455
>>280425588
Yeah, that's something that really fascinates me about this discourse. The generation that found out about anime through SAO and AoT is acting like they were into this niche and underground form of art that normies just found out about.

>>280421505
I wrote about this before in threads like this, but in America women used to be in the industry, both as creators and readers. Then something in the late 70s happened, and they stopped/were stopped.

Marvel stopped printing romance comics, star trek went from house wife show to male nerd show, and so on. For example, I found out that in the 1920s there were two female strip comic writers fighting each other for who was the best only because it was mentioned in the introduction to an Addam's family collection, and it was just a brief mention to explain how the Addam's family was a dark humour reply to the society these two writers were doing.

I am not saying this in a feminist tone as in "women were always there", I am saying this in a historian tone as in "all of this is lost history and I can't find what happened".

Also complaining about women in anime and manga is dumb, one because they were always there and some of the biggest creator are women. For example, I believe that Rumiko is the goat mangaka, no one else has culture defining works in 4 different decades.
But also because the main reason manga took over and replaced american cape comics is because it appeals a lot more to women. It's not just the fact they have works made specifically for women, something basically unheard of in the west whose best works in the field are what, winx and witch?
It's also something like JJK or demon slayer, works for men but which girls like a lot more than superman

>>280423081
good threads, unlike picrel

>>280427991
>it just means 50% of Netflix’s users (accounts) have watched at least one anime program. When you consider that a single account can be shared across an entire family that becomes even less impressive
Title didn't make such distinction so fuck off.

>>280428160
ROLLAN

>>280429056
kek I have only used storytimes on /co/

>>280421915
I think it goes to show that, zoomers wont really replace the community's or hobby's base for the more nicher parts, really there's actually not enough zoomers as scary as that may sound. You all like to say that normalfags invaded 4chan but I dont think thats true, more like they invaded /v/, /pol, /b/ and avoided the rest. Go recruit more zoomers.

I never used Netflix, is it still the big shit?
I hear there's like a gorillian streaming services now and they all suck, Netflix included.

>>280421421 (OP)
that explains why I've stopped watching anime
it's not aimed at me anymore, it's aimed at the "modern audience"

>>280424254
If you fags want an activity which normalfags will never get into then try reading books, like this is the only thing they will never be able to get into because reading 500 pages where you have to use an internal monologue is difficult for most and especially browns and blacks, but alas you will keep complaining, cry and shit over normalfags taking your preciouse animu away from you kek

>>280429458
boomers do read books
but zoomers and younger definitely don't

>>280421421 (OP)
>Run out of movies because there's fuckall selection
>watch an anime movie
>Woah anime watcher GET

>>280421505
It's true. Even jocks and bodybuilders watch anime.

>>280429484
>boomers do read books
Yeah and they're not the Israel MAGA boomers but actually literate ones

>>280421505
It's more like this
>nerds build niche community
>4/10 foid finds it
>she calls her simps and other shitheads to invade that space
>nerd space is destroyed and they resettle into a new community
>repeat

>>280423081
You're posting in a xitter thread, yet you choose those as your examples. Fucking retard.

>>280429458
Anything requiring reading no matter what medium it is gatekeeps 99% of the planet desu. Books, comics, manga, light novels, visual novels all to some degree gatekeep people, sure some people have read 1-5 from the medium but an avid reader? I literally work at a book store and barely can find such people. Reading gatekeeps fags because most fags hate reading which is why dubbed anime and vidya are very very huge multi trillion dollar industries and any reading medium is not.

>>280429552
I will note comics and manga have a lot more popularity in the west compared to non comics, non manga. Pictures make it easier, no pictures make it harder.

>>280421421 (OP)
Netflixsloppers watch anything their big daddy shows them.

>>280421421 (OP)
They might've ruined everything that is produced anymore but they will never take away my existing golden era OVAs. Oh you think the gore and ecchi elements or imaginative designs are "yuck" and have no place in anime? Sucks to suck.

>>280429458
Books are useless, they damage your vision.

>>280422659
Those are shows from 2015, 10 years ago. If you consider Battle of Gods as part of dbs then it's actually 12 years ago.

>>280429552
It's still easier to read a book with pictures or something like a VN compared to reading War and Peace, Anna Karenina, etc, books are the ultimate gatekept activity and not every retard can get into them

>>280428868
Interesting observation. From what I know (And what I can extrapolate) Marvel and print comics in general dropped romance, mundane detective stories, and other non-superhero comics just because the industry centralized around caped crusaders. You might think of it like a local maxima. Why print a murder mystery starring some normal guy when you could have roughly the same plot starring Batman and sell a lot more? But obviously the second order consequence is that comics ghettoize themselves, and lose their broad appeal. FWIW a lot of the issues with comics being stuck in this ghetto is fairly industry specific, like you mentioned Japan has plenty of not just Josei manga but manga that can appeal to almost anyone. And not just Japan, plenty of Euro-comics get away from just being capeshit.

>star trek went from house wife show to male nerd show
Kind of but it's more accurate to say that Star Trek had broad appeal. Much like comics, I think what happened is that the hardcore fans just ended up being mostly men. Plus, by the time of TNG sci-fi as a whole was mostly by-men-for-men. Again, this was sort of how the industry turned out. Boys like space ships and laser guns more than girls, so the industry caters to them more.

And yeah, anime/manga has had a lot of talented female contributors. But that's because anime/manga is an industry that can have almost anything as a subject matter. So you can cater to anyone. Shounen/shoujo series for teen boys/girls, Seinen/Josei for adult men/women, and even within each "category" there's a lot of crossover appeal. Me and my sister both liked Sailor Moon and Card Captor Sakura for instance. For whatever reason, this doesn't happen as much with American media. I wonder if it's the lack of mixing of elements. Star Trek TNG for instance didn't really pay off any romantic tension between Picard/Beverly, but stuff like Code Geass has plenty of shoujo elements.

im bored of doomerism desu

>>280421421 (OP)
>What the hell changed with the normalfags?

ATTACK ON TITAN

>>280429745
Also I would like to mention that most fags don't "play" VNs but watch playthroughs with commentary and don't form opinions based on their own experience with the VNs but just repeat the opinions of said e-celeb

>>280429806
My friend that started with Attack on Titan refuses to watch anything with cute little girls in it.

>>280421915
troon joons on power trip banning anyone who doesn't like their pseudo general spam

>>280421455
>2015
Wasn't that about the time we started seeing "anitubers" getting popular, like digibro or mother's basement or bestguyever?

>>280429916
>mother's basement
Haven't heard that name in years.

>>280429916
I don't even know what happened to the anitubers. I haven't been recommended any videos from people like that since like 2017. I don't know if they stopped being popular, or if the algorithm just decided that kind of content wasn't for me.

>>280429955
The latter. A lot of them are still pretty popular and it's unfortunate because as far as I can tell all of them are retarded. Most of them only really watch shounen series, and I can't tell if it's because the average age of their audience is 13, or if because they're just mentally stunted. You'd think having anime as your job would breed some kind of general appreciation for the craft or the history of the medium but most of them won't even watch something that aired before 2010 unless it's like, Naruto or Bleach.

>>280421421 (OP)
Anime is consumed in the form of battle shonen and whatever the aoty is for normal fags, all of my normalfags friend refuse to watch anything thats older then 2012, anything that has fanservice, anything that has lolies (they think japan is a pedophillic nation), anything that has romance aimed at dudes, anything that has cute girls, anything that has slice of life or they feel and I quote "weird and cringe". Anime is mainstream but most anime is not mainstream, if that makes any sense. Too much "icky gross pedo weirdo stuff" in anime to venture out beyond shonen and whatever is the most hyped anime that year like aot, bocchi, frieren etc. Also the more western or westaboo the anime is the more likely theyll watch it. The more Japanese it is the less likely theyll watch it. Out of the 20 normalfags I know all 20 would rather eat glass then watch yuru camp, non non biyori or monogatari.

>>280421421 (OP)
>anime is mainstream now
okay
>everyone and their mother loves japan now
how
we hated japs for ww2 just few years ago

>>280430130
/thread

>>280430021
To be fair, there's a lot more money in hype culture than in bringing up something old. It's the same reason why every so often, some mediocre fotm game on /v/ like Expedition 33 gets hailed as "the single greatest game ever made", only to then be forgotten about after a year and being replaced by the next thing. I noticed this becoming a real problem in anime discussion back whenever Your Name became the highest scoring anime of all time on MAL. Hype culture has been a real problem ever since.

>>280430130
Funny how most normalfags will say they like anime but when you ask them what anime you realize they dont really like anime they just like shonen.

>>280429955
Their popularity seems to be stagnating desu. Kids want to watch short-form content more than video essays.

>>280430130
Bocchi meets like half of the criteria you listed though, doesn't it (I've never seen it I literally don't know)

>>280430174
This is my experience too, with hunterxhunter and YYH being the furthest they are willing to go.

>>280430178
My nephew watches these videos instead of watching anime

https://youtu.be/cI5fAz8h_2M?si=geB5iiVtJof4i0zw

I want to remind most anons that gen a will consume anime in the form of the video above. Even a bit of genz.

Netflix "anime" includes tons of western made garbage. I don't put much stock by Netflix claims or statistics. They call something anime as a marketing gimick. Arcane is "anime" according to Netflix.

>>280429955
Almost everyone in this picture became trans.

>>280430187
Oh non of my normalfag friends watched bocchi (literally all 20 of them said its for gays or weirdo pedophiles kek) but I do know some normalfags gave it a chance. It does meet those criteria, basically it has to be somewhat safe and acceptable amongst other normalfags, this is why when I mention anything beyond those genres people get very very uninterested.

>>280430235
Wtf is that true? I never kept up with anitubers

>>280430238
To add I think its a double standard

How is it that zoomers don't know that streaming services inflaute numbers all the time. There's no law that actually makes them tell the truth

>>280430130
so literally nothing has changed since anime first became mainstream over 10 years ago

>>280430198
Best one is when you point out they do the sumg "so I watch anime".

>>280430288
Correct, its basically more of the same type of casual watcher from 2015 but more widespread. I would be caught dead before I mention to most normalfags the anime I actually like.

>>280430238
>>280430250
Okay. So if you're saying that sometimes a high level of hype can overturn the usual normalfag filter, yea I can see that. Normalvermin generally have no problem putting their "moral principles" aside if they think that everyone around them is.

>>280430317
Yep pretty much

>>280430246
https://youtu.be/SAwp9p9LV2Q

It was an interesting development. BestGuyEver had to stop making content with them because they all went insane and trooned out. It's why he made a new One Piece podcast without a co-host.

>>280429357
Netflix is no longer THE streaming service, but it's still the most successful one. Netflix's market position was built on top of mega popular IPs they didn't own, so it was only a matter of time before the owners of those IPs went into streaming for themselves and that would naturally eat into Netflix's position. For all that, though, Netflix subscribers have proven shockingly loyal despite the decline in content on the platform. Brand recognition should never be underestimated.

>>280421421 (OP)
Anime is mainstream since the 2000s, if you want to feel special by being into it, dig deeper in the medium, find more obscure anime or discuss in depth about your faverite series.

Anyone can enjoy Chainsaw Man or Kimetsu no Yaiba, because they're good, but if you're a fan you can discuss theories, dig into the lore and the hidden details, extra material outside the main series, etc.

I never got the point of these threads, boo hoo more people enjoy anime, who cares, as long as it doesn't turn the medium into shit that's not a issue, and so far it haven't, japanese animation studios mostly care about japanese feedback, from BR sales, japanese polls and discussion boards, the west is not very influential

>>280430310
>I would be caught dead before I mention to most normalfags the anime I actually like.
I mean, if someone asks then I'll tell them. Never understood why you'd go out if your way to actively hide your taste.

>>280430395
It depends I guess, some people are cool and wont get weirded out but for a lot of normalfags youll usually get answers like "isnt that the show with the little girls" "that shows kinda weird man" etc.

>>280427991
It's also misleading because Netflix's "anime" category includes tons of western-made cartoons. Netflix uses "anime" as a label to attract older animation fans and they apply to to literally anything they think they can get away with. Remember that Arcane, a show produced by westerners, animated by westerners, for westerners, is filed under "anime" on Netflix.

>>280430170
It definitely goes beyond just monetary incentives, and more into a mindset I call "Currentism". A lot of people are just totally incurious about anime as a medium. They watch currently airing shounen and that's it. I don't know why that is, or what causes it, but I assume that rather than appreciating a story for it's dramatic moments, or a show for it's powerful direction/animation, they just like it when a guy punches another guy. Because even for shounen series I never hear them actually delve into the themes of the story or how each character contributes to it or anything beyond some general sentiment that JJK or whatever is "Cool". If it sounds like I'm describing a brainless moron, I might be, but I don't have any other explanation for this behavior.

How else do you explain someone who literally watches and talks about anime for a living outright refusing to watch anything that isn't a currently airing shounen and often denigrating other genres of Japanese animation?

>>280430414
>a lot of normalfags youll usually get answers like "isnt that the show with the little girls" "that shows kinda weird man" etc.
And why should I care about this?

>>280430435
You dont need to but for me when im at work with my coworkers id prefer not to get labelled by the team as that one weird dude who might be a closeted pedophile. So instead I just talk about chainsaw man or jjk with them since thats "acceptable" or normalfag enough.

>>280430394
>if you want to feel special
>Anyone can enjoy Chainsaw Man or Kimetsu no Yaiba, because they're good
>boo hoo more people enjoy anime, who cares
>as long as it doesn't turn the medium into shit that's not a [sic] issue, and so far it haven't [sic]
Jesus christ can you rim normalfag ass any harder?
>the west is not very influential
The West is extremely influential to contemporary culture all across the globe. And the problem is when Chinese and Western sensitivities overlap, that's when offshore revenue affects content.

>>280430417
>Netflix's "anime" category includes tons of western-made cartoons
I've been noticing this and it's pretty sad to consider that American animation has been so ghettoized into the duality of "The Simpsons, but worse" and "Grimblo's Numbers and Shapes Show For Babies" for so long that western created animated shows aren't even seen as American animation, but some foreign thing that was imported. And it sucks because there are a lot of talented western animators.

>>280421421 (OP)
even my mum watches anime now
what should i do

>>280430424
>I don't know why that is
It's for the social aspect. I've known a lot of people who would watch really dogshit television shows just so they could keep up and talk about them with their friends.

>>280430468
Watch kodomo no jikan with her

>>280430468
I'm so sorry for you. I think my parents will never watch anime because they're traumatized from finding my hentai folder when I was 13.

>>280430414
You've gotta assert dominance and tell them Koibumi to 13-sai no Actress is the best shit ever. I had a chance to do this recently at a pub but pussied out.

>>280429955
They are still here, they've simply switched to capitalizing on teenage xitter pseud audience instead of reddit cattle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LFlK1ssUDY

>>280430455
>So instead I just talk about chainsaw man
Isn't that about a literal cuck tho?

>>280430455
>when im at work with my coworkers id prefer not to get labelled by the team as that one weird dude who might be a closeted pedophile
And why would that happen? Dude you are weird.

>>280429458
>>280429552
Both of these are correct. Essentially reading keeps normalfags out. There is also Gacha as a note thanks to Umamusume bringing JP Gacha into glory recently. Most normalfags are being filtered because it has a lot of VN segments with Monster Raising elements.

>>280429458
but i have add :(

>>280430517
It basically happened at my old work like 1 ayear ago when I said to a coworker that I like monogatari a lot, then he decided to play a bunch of clips to check it out and started joking that "im into pedo shit" in a haha funny way but it made my other coworkers get weirded out.
>>280430504
I guess

>>280430468
You know what you must do

>>280430494
Shouldn't have pussied out. I pulled that shit but with Mezzo Forte because it came up that a local anime convention was having a hentai screening. They were impressed by my deep knowledge of the medium and I felt like a god for the rest of the day.

>>280430485
If that is the case, why do they not just play Gacha instead? I mean if they are normalfags that hate Japanese Anime, maybe it would be better to send them to the Mihoyo Chinese Gacha train and keep the JP Content to ourselves. Gacha is a very social game thing with Anime stuff in it.

>>280430545
It ain't easy bein' a wagie.

>>280421869
roundhouse kick a tanuki in the face

>>280430545
Get out of there, or push them into the Gacha trap of Mihoyo. These people are casuals lol.

Can /a/ stop biting into these /v/pol tier engagement bait threads?
Anime has been mainstream since 10 years now.

Netflix has been licensing anime since forever, we laugh at those as they are 90% of the time garbage.

Now stop bumping this tard thread

>>280430610
>Anime has been mainstream since 10 years now.
20.

>>280430563
true
>>280430593
It gets better, the girl that was friendly with me but became distant after that is a literal genshin giga whale

>>280429802
Are you an optimist? I grew to accept that anime would be so convenient to watch, it can't hide from the general public any longer. I just try to talk in good faith about anything, and hope that improves the quality of discussion.

>>280421505
>>280427616
>I'm being kicked out of my hobby!!! (sitting in his dark bedroom watching anime)
Lmao you can still have that, loser

>>280425588
kek seething faggot being wrong about basically everything. zoomers had first touch with anime with Naruto exclusively and nothing else.

>>280430625
>20
Anime has been mainstream since DBZ

>>280430660
Naruto is boomercore.

>>280421421 (OP)
>Eva
>CCS
>HxH
a good catalog is all it takes

>>280430676
I meant 1995, which obviously was just 20 years ago.

>>280428160
If you insist...

>>280430655
I guess you're still going through the phase where kissing normalfag ass makes you feel like they let you sit at the cool kids table.

>>280430660
Actually for zoomers it was Pokemon

>>280421421 (OP)
Maybe because western media became shit for a long time and anime and manga at least gives people an alternative.

Sex with normies...

>>280423081
all those threads would be 100x better than this one if they didn't fall off page 10 while I was asleep

>>280430806
Lmao you don't need to ""kiss normalfag ass"" to watch anime, you hisotronic loser

>>280421421 (OP)
it's "anime" like castlevania and dmc though
normalfag taste is still absolute shit

>>280426270
>The only decent user experience is 4chan + 4chan X/XT
This is why I never switched over to cripplechan fulltime 11 years ago during gg, the user experience was complete trash in comparison.

>>280427616
I think anime productions have improved in as many ways as they've gotten worse and despite things moving away from otaku kei trappings we also get a lot more consistent high quality releases. Like I could imagine still seeing Mushishi or Shigofumi getting made today and with better quality but you would never see a ToraDora in 2020+ or even one of the most literal examples of competence/enthusiast crisis Spice & Wolf. S&W a low budget production whose artistic spirit has such a disparity in execution that I actually couldn't see the new adaptation being made had it traded places with the original anime adaptation. You won't ever see another Evangelion or even Eureka 7 which is another literal example of how bad the competency crisis has become from the same fucking staff! It's crazy to notice that there are ways of thinking or approaching something that flat out do not exist anymore even inside the minds of the same fucking people who made something great 10+ years ago. I don't know. What do you guys think? Things are looking stronger than ever for anime economically but it's not going to include the edge case talents of society anymore who are fewer and farther between. Sentiments are much safer and homogenization in the internet age is a blight.

>>280430919
>calls other people loser and cheerleads for normalscum
>has yuru yuri reaction gifs saved to his computer
You will never be a normie. They view both you and I as losers. The harder you try, the more you'll regret it later.

>>280430545
If you let that drag you down then it's your fault.

>>280431091
Oh he mad
You're not being kicked out of your hobby because anime isn't your hobby
Your hobby is arguing on twitter

>>280421886
Kid's shows count. Bluey and all those low budget 3d animated shows for kids are probably heavily skewing the results.

>>280431130
nta but hes right your reaction images would make most normalfags cringe and think your a weirdo

>>280431091
>You and I
I'm watching anime right now, loser lmao
Ooooh the normalfags are coming to stop me!! Aiiiieeee!!!!

>>280431154
I couldn't give less of a fuck what normalfags think of a 4chan reaction image. That doesn't stop anyone from engaging in a hobby, unless you're a loser like >>280430919 said

>>280431176
sure i guess?

>>280431082
>What do you guys think?
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it for you, I think the human race is literally killing itself, and the decreasing quality in every entertainment medium is just a reflection of that. Culture is downstream from biology, and we're seeing a purposefully engineered population collapse worldwide, even in shit holes like India. Whatever remains of us are going to be enslaved to technology, or gone innawoods. This isn't just about cartoons, this is biblical end times shit.

>>280431130
>Your hobby is arguing on twitter
Projection. You're the one using twitter ebonics, and you seem a lot more excited about this exchange than I am.

>>280431212
I love BTFOing newfags, you could say that's my hobby.

>>280428160
fuck it, cute wife thanks

>>280430468
My mom recognized Mikasa on a sweater I only wear at home during winter, I was dumbfounded, I don't think she watched AoT however

>>280431227
Nah. You revealed yourself as an underage xitterfag when you said
>Oh he mad.
It's all over now. We know what you are.

>>280431242
Are you unironically trying to say that "u mad" and "he mad" is a twitter meme?

>>280431281
yeah, and notice how he pathetically attempts to use the illusion of majority by insisting we didn't notice it

>>280431281
It's judeo-negroidic babble, not in use by actual humans

>>280431298
Holy newfag

>>280431281
No, I'm not talking about ""u mad" and "he mad"". I'm talking about the phrase "Oh he mad". Don't muddy the waters. Also your lowercase alter-ego is really obvious because it has the same retardation profile as you and always posts 1 minute after you.

>>280421421 (OP)
>ITT: Another thread where anons are shocked that a populist medium appeals to normies

>>280431201
Yep, but that's predictable due to human greed. Just enjoy whatever good remains during our short stay in this world.

>>280431315
I know it comes from the troll meme, but it's only used by shitskins today

>>280431328
this

>>280428160
Roll

>>280428160
Last time i rolled on this the result was meh. Manifesting a good one this time.

>>280421455
>2015 was a decade ago
oh fuck im old. cute JK arnt even zoomers anymore but alpha arnt they? god damn it.
t. remembers /ll/ on not4chan

>>280428160
rollllololololl

>>280431281
>I've been found out!!

>the generation that grew up watching cartoons (gen x) and the generation that grew up with toonami (millenials) are having kids
>anime is watched on streaming services
wow what big news.

>>280421421 (OP)
It's generational, but zoomers are the main audience now.
>yfw your dad talks about watching Ultra man and Battleship Yamato growing up in the 70s
>didnt even know
>stash of devilman OVAs and that one hentai DVD you found makes more sense
>you were forever bound for this hobby before you were born

>On /co/ this twitter screencap signals what could have been for comics and cartoons a failed future
>On /a/ this twitter screencap is used to signals the death of anime

>>280424254
>normies
shut the fuck up normalnigger faggot.

>>280428868
>The generation that found out about anime through SAO
I was 8 or 9 when it was on TV. Like what else was I supposed to do. Fucking nigger. Every hobby has an entry point. That was 2012. Our normies didn't get into this shit until around 2018 - 2020 imo. There was a gap period where you were still a loser for liking anime.

>>280429484
Give Gen Alpha some time. No one knows what's gonna happen. From the bullshit that's been making the rounds on reels and TikTok they have every right to be angry. Instagram now makes 4chan look like a pussy site.

>>280431201
Have faith. Kendrick Lamar is getting shit back in order.

>>280421505
shoujou's caught on before shonen ever did

Imagine being such a loser that even girls begin to get interested by your hobby and you're still a virgin loser freak that complains that normies stole your hobby instead of getting game lmao

>>280431611
>but zoomers are the main audience now.
Gen Alpha are either 13 at the oldest or 16 next year (no one has settled it). It isn't 2018 anymore man we aren't the fortnite niggers listening to 6ix9ine anymore we are fucking old now lol.

>>280431315
>>280431281
Based

>>280431242
Are you implying that he is a "hood weeb"?

>>280431689
>we are fucking old now lol.
that means you can pay for anime now, Alphas cant

>>280431642
Both are right

Its funny because I've been watching anime since before most here were born but because I have a wife, kid, and am not a disgusting slob you all would call me a normie (because you are too terrified to call me a normalfag). Hilarious how faggots box themselves into little cages of self loathing.
niggers the lot of you. fuck kikeflix btw fudged numbers for sure.

>>280431732
ok fair enough

>>280421421 (OP)
ChadChaChads won again

>>280421421 (OP)
This anon is correct >>280421455
Anime has been mainstream since Shingeki came out in 2013. That shit was literally the new Game of Thrones to normals. Bill from accounting would be talking about that shit around the watercooler.

>>280431743
>you all would call me a normie (because you are too terrified to call me a normalfag)
I will call you a newfag

>>280426672
H-hi

>>280431776
anime was mainstream ever since dbz and naruto were a thing, retards

>virgins losers nerds have no excuse anymore to be losers since even normies love anime and videogames nowadays so they're seething HARD and malding at normies because they still can't get anything done in their life
kek you love to see it

>>280431798
I found that when naruto was airing no one gave a shit about it.

Why is half of this thread bait calling anons losers when every user on this site is a loser, jannies time to clean it up. This isnt /v/, the vacation is over.

>>280431846
my whole primary school knew about naruto back then

>>280431851
/a/ is dead version of /v/, still has bait for (you)s just at half the speed

>>280431859
Children knowing about something doesn't make it mainstream
There's a reason I used the watercooler example, something is mainstream when the average office drone partakes in it

>>280431859
Yeah just like how everyone knew you but you weren't popular.

>>280431882
>>280431904
they watched it too, also why bring up officemen when it literally wasn't of their ages? nowaday officemen watch anime but because it's the generation I was literally just talking about that talked about dbz and naruto at school.

>>280431776
>Shingeki
>not DBZ
/a/ is obsessed with this stupid show for /pol/ reasons. But DBZ had Burger King kids meal toys. Even Yu Yu Hakusho was on mainstream TV, on one of two major cartoon networks. If you were a kid you watched cartoons and if you were a kid you watched that network. Needless to say, Naruto, which was on Cartoon Network, is more mainstream than Shingeki.

>>280430130
This

Back in 2015 I asked my cousin what he was watching for the season
he paused and said "oh, Im not into anime like that". then I remembered he only watched old shonen shows and one punch at the time despite him repeating how much he loved anime.

In recent years I have 2 more family members into anime but they only watch one or 2 shows just like any other Netflix series
I doubt many are binge watching 5 airing shows or even care about the source material

>>280431944
>you need to have watched 1000 shows to be an anime fan!
bruh
i'm sure those people have work and things to do in their lives

>>280431930
No one talked about Naruto at my school except for the resident weeb.

>>280431967
You do though, if you have sub 800 at minimum you are a casual.

>>280431967
no, but watching one or 2 shows doesn't make you an anime fan
you're just a fan of a show that's anime

>>280431931
I had a ten year old kid straight up come up to me and ask me if I watched SNK. That never happened with DBZ.

>>280431984
Not him, but a jock asked me who my favorite character was. His was Rock Lee.

>>280431984
>No one talked about Naruto at my school except for the resident weeb.
literally what did they talk about then? that's the kind of stuff you talk about when you're a kid

>>280431998
>800 at minimum
anon thats a retarded amount, if youve watched that much anime maybe you should move to japan or something and consume it all in japanese.

>>280427616
I was once looking for this image and found it by google on a tranny leddit thread that was giga assblasted they called those newcomers "the browns"

>>280432027
There were lots of stuff to watch back in the mid 2000s. Naruto wasn't the only thing in existence back then, not even anime wise.

>>280432031
Not really, im at 1.4k on mal and started watching in 2016. If you have below 800 I dont consider you to be otaku.

>>280421421 (OP)
Zoomers are weird with anime. I attempted revealing a fraction of my power level with the anime-enthusiast family zoomer and I had to drop it near instantly. They are complete normies who watch anime because it's there on the catalog. They do not experience it the same way as I do. They don't understand what makes anime anime. They watch it exactly like they'd watch another series on Netflix. God, they don't even watch subs.
It's like you're passionate about a sport and this guy seems equally passionate but you engage in normal sports talk and he goes "uhh there are two teams?!" or "I don't know the rules of the game I just watch it to see the ball get thrown around HURR DURR". It's disgusting that THESE people are laying eyes on MY Japanese entertainment product.

>>280432059
yeah but I mean in the context of anime, if not for naruto there's dragon ball, pokemon, yugioh, your friends should've at least known one of those

>>280432061
no way in hell what a person with any semblance of a life have the ability to consume that watch anime in their lifetime, thats pretty elitist.

>>280432101
>any semblance of a life
Otaku do not have lives, you make that sacrifice to consume more Japanese media, watch more anime casual.

>>280427616
The people who post this image, without fault, fail to realize that they themselves at the very best would have entered the picture by the third panel or so

You fucking idiot, you did not invent liking anime, it was a giant industry before you were even born.

>>280432061
>no true scotsman

>>280432120
>Otaku do not have lives, you make that sacrifice to consume more Japanese media, watch more anime casual.
That's not something you should be proud of. Do you at least use that time to draw and make an anime yourself or are you just a retard that does nothing but watch anime?

>>280421915
4chan is dying due to being anti-user, with it's the fucking 120 second captchas that always reset and the faggot ass moderation.

>>280432076
You mentioned naruto as if it was the only thing in existance.

>>280432137
Yeah I am N2 in moonrunes and do personal tls for light novels.

>>280432121
I didn't have social media in my childhood faggot.

>>280432153
I just said from my experience in my school, the most popular manga was naruto and literally everyone I talked to knew about it or started watching it because other boys talked them into it.

>>280432069
>caring about people being afraid of your power level
What's the point?

>>280431851
>jannies
Laziest motherfuckers that start flaming these threads

>>280431784
ive been here all summer

How is normies getting into anime a bad thing? It means the market will be even bigger and there will be even more anime in the future. If anything you otakus should rejoice especially if as you claim you watch at least 800+ of them?

>>280432258
Its bad because they dont like my loli and jk anime.

>>280432187
>I just said
No, you didn't "just" say it, you said it in previous replies not the last one and. You just complained about kids in my school not talking about naruto as if it was the only anime in existance.

I wish the word normie would get anyone posting a permanent vacation. its garbage like "unalive" and "grape".

>>280432258
I'd rather watch one good show than 800 bad ones
Normalfags have shit tastes, and them entering the audience means productions will cater to them.

>>280421455
>umaru
Umaru was popular with normies?

>>280432312
it was a meme show to them, yes

>>280432258
>even more slop thanks to normies, we should be thankful!

>>280432291
I wish that people complaining about the word normie would get anyone posting a permanent vacation.

>>280421421 (OP)
What else are they supposed to watch? Most of Netflix's catalogue is garbage.

>>280432302
Anime is for children your dad is right grow up fag.

>>280432302
>>280432349
The shows you otakus most prefer are literally isekai and those things are the biggest generic slop there is, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>280432373
normie is used by tourists though

>>280432393
My favorite anime is saekano and prisma illya also your bait setups are terrible, I am giving you (you)s because im bored and I want this thread to hit bump but you need to get better at baiting you tard.

>>280421421 (OP)
Netflix has a lot of woke content and most of the non-woke content are animes and old shows or movies. Simple as it.

>>280432401
normie was originated here tough

>>280432446
why cant you say normalfag?

>>280432393
>had to make a stupidly retarded and inaccurate strawman in order to reply
You tried.

>>280432373
"normie" was invented by twitter twitch tumblr etc fags who didnt want to get a ban. anyone posting it on 4chan does not belong here.

>>280432454
why can't you say normie?

>>280432446
it literally wasnt. normalfag, newfag, normalnigger were all used here. "normie" was made by kids who didnt want to be edgy and banned from social media.

>>280432488
why cant you say normalfag?

>>280432488
because im not a normalfaggot nigger like yourself :^)
>>>/facebook/
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/reddit/

Everybody read the Naruto manga and talked about Naruto in fifth grade. Then in middle school Bleach and Tokyo Ghoul were popular

>>280432470
And they would get banned if they used "normalfag" because? Oh that's right your narrative is inconsistent because you are making it up.

>>280432536
What happened to tokyo ghoul, unravel was huge but now its barely talked about.

>>280432494
>>280432502
>>280432517
Newfags get the fuck out of this site.

>be 13 in middle school
>get bullied for liking anime
>two years later the exact same kids who bullied me were doing naruto runs and doing ninja hand signs
damn I should have waited for naruto instead of telling my friends I like YYH

>>280432539
because you literally say "fag", if I call someone a fag on reddit I get banned, maybe itll slide on twitter nowadays though.

>>280432554
It ended and it's been discussed to death.

>>280432539
because "fag" is a no-no term same as "nigger" on social media? are you retarded? its the same reason you see "unalive" by kids. they dont want to be deleted from socials.

>>280421421 (OP)
>>280421455
>>280421505
One Piece has changed everything.

>>280432554
S1 was good, it was like the JJK of the 2010s, kind of a dark theme, good animation... Apparently S2 and onward suck but I never watched past S1.

>>280432570
Nobody does naruto runs and signs at 15 you lying faggot

>>280432567
ive been here all summer

>>280432570
The naruto kids got their heads smashed into a locker, what is this fantasy. The jjk kids dont nowadays.

>>280432576
And who the fuck mentioned reddit? You made it sound like you would get banned for saying normie here which is not true.

>>280421915
>obnoxious thread schizos for almost every series, no tools to filter them out like on 2channel
>no true trainwreck anime originals to boil the board anymore
>>280423167
>Dvach might be the only one still going strong
Dvach's manga/anime boards are dead as fuck too, and mangach is empty in particular because it had the same issues as all /a/ generals here, unhinged attention seeking schizoids. DTF is replacing /v/ and /vg/ too, on top of discord and telegram communities.

>>280432184
So you didn't even have a community, you just consumed a product. Good job calling that a hobby, I guess, but nothing was taken away from you.

>>280432620
are you a esl? no one said you would be banned on 4chan for posting "normie", just that you should be as its not 4chan lingo but tourist lingo.

>>280432620
I never implied that I meant that your using off site words that make you intentionally look like a summerfag. I know your baiting but like come on.

>>280432618
>mfw i actually did get my head slammed into a locker for being a obnoxious narutard

>>280432623
what is dtf.......

>>280432201
Anon if you're asking this question then your power level is too low

>>280432635
>mUh CoMmUnItY
its amazing that brands have become the new religion where people will fight for them freely and discuss how online faceless members of the same consumerist product are a "community".

>>280432636
And I would be an ESL because? Seems like you are projecting since you can't make another person understand you.

>>280432704
NTA but post hands jeet.

>>280432588
This. The amount of normal fags and even boomers who never gave a fuck about anime is now consuming it in one way or the other. A shit load do actually watch the live action.

>>280432719
>saar please show hands

>>280432684
The Daily Telefrag, huge russian gaming community. Has an insane amount of traffic. Called "blue dvach" sometimes because it's still a shitpost central.

>>280432736
I accept your concession.

>>280432638
>I never implied that I meant that your using off site words that
Nigger what?

>>280421421 (OP)
and 90% dubbed
It's so over for this hobby lol

>>280421421 (OP)
what's the other option? watch western series?

>>280421505
The dark truth is that nerds always lose.
It's like a divine rule.

>>280432704
because you cant understand english. lurk forever.

>>280432802
This.
Gatekeping dosen't work because god hates us

>>280432757
Ill check it out, however I dont know russian so I guess ill just use google translate. /v/ is truly unusable after the hack.

>>280421915
Most tourists go to/from /v/ and /pol/, not /a/
If you go to X (formerly twitter), it's full of 4chan /v/ screencaps for engagement bait. and if you go to /v/, it's full of twitter screencaps.

>>280432702
Anon, you were specifically replying to my comment on hobby communities and how they are portrayed in that stupid comic.

>>280432812
You are the ESL that can't even write a proper sentence. Fuck off forever.

>>280421915
What happened in 2021?

>>280432763
>SAAR PLEASE SHOW HANDA

Normalfags arent watching lolicon anime so im safe.

>>280432905
2x concession accepted

>>280432900
SnK

the damage COVID lockdown has done to anything digital/internet-related is crazy. I don't think we can go back. this is like when smartphone was first introduced. the damage is permanent. the sheer influx of people (retards) swarming in is unsustainable. They can't "lurk more" and adapt. they will force "us" to adapt to them instead.
>so problematic!
>censor this! censor that!
>diddy ahh incel pedo!

>>280432841
For english gaming communities i'd unironically advise rpg codex, gamefaqs and neogaf at this point. They have basically the same userbase and attitudes as /v/ over a decade ago.

>>280421421 (OP)
ok fine
when do we get our anime watching normalfag gfs then

>>280432900
covid

>>280421421 (OP)
You need to remember that Netflix calls every adult-oriented Netflix original animation "anime" so lol, lmao. Do you count mentally retarded normies that consume literally every flick that Netflix releases as people that watch anime?

>>280431798
There's a massive difference between that and watching general seasonal anime. You know this too retard

>>280432947
Yeah I might start lurking rpgcodex more also what about /a/? I think /a/ is a lot better then /v/ but its still declining a lot. Like look at these man come on. Is is basically just discords only for anime or maybe 2ch.jp.

>>280432912
The FBI is watching you

>>280432945
covid was basically the final breath of online discourse being stomped out. The net is pretty much not worth using to the point of your better of just talking to no one online and if your a neet then its even worse.

>>280432912
Too bad normalfags are obsessed with trying to police it. Even this place isn't safe with all the shonen tourists

>>280432934
>SAAR SHOW HANDS SAAR

>>280432999
Honestly i don't think anything can truly replace /a/. Despite the damage schizos and shitposters did to this place, this is still the single most enjoyable place to discuss anything manga and anime related. Smaller reddit communities can be okay and sometimes clearly share the same userbase though, but it greatly depends on the moderators, if there's some rainbow-colored hambeast at the top, the entire thing immediately goes to shit.

>>280421421 (OP)
Most netflix watches are people who put stuff on in the background and do other things instead

>>280421421 (OP)
We won the culture war. Zoomees got fed up with the Hollywood machine and their wokeness and escaped towards what they perceive as more apolitical entertainment.

>>280430468
My mom doesn't care about it, but she loves my anime figures (even the lewd ones lol).
My dad always loved Dragon Ball, more than me even. He also likes Saint Seiya, B't X and a couple of other "mainstream" shonen.
They're both 65+.

>ctrl+f gateke
>12 results
What do you fuckers even mean by nonsense like "we need to gatekeep harder" or "we haven't gatekept the normalfags hard enough"? I'm asking from a practical standpoint, because all I'm seeing is generic phrase-mongering and nothing related to individual, yet alone plausibly effective, action

>>280421915
4chan has been creatively bankrupt for years now. Memes are no longer born here. They all come from TikTok and X. The entire internet has become 4chanified. You don't need to come here to get anything in particular. Increasingly, the only reason to come here is becoming "you can say nigger". Not a very compelling product!

>>280427616
I don't see how this picture applies to anime when fujoshi were a thing people have been complaining about for 20+ years

>>280430414
>why would it be weird? what's the first thing that popped into your head when you saw these little girls?
they're self reporting

>>280433696
consumers cant gatekeep when the producers want to expand.

>>280433696

There's nothing we can do. The lid is open. It can't be closed.

>>280432143
just don't clear cookies.

>>280433786
We can still protect manga.
Don't give out titles, don't post full pages.

>>280421421 (OP)
Western media became so garbage the normalfags had no choice other than watch the Chinese cartoons they made fun of for decades because it wasn't as garbage as the western stuff
And don't worry, modern anime became garbage as well, a mix of catering to zoomers and the west+china completely destroyed it

>>280424254
>normies
maybe start from yourself retard.

When will you faggots learn that you can't gatekeep a product?

>>280422659
oh boi. best to check your personal gyrochronomaton

>>280421421 (OP)
>trust corposting
you must be new here

>>280433873
See >>280433820. Some niche titles are still untainted.

>>280433873
>mfw visual novels and eroge gatekeep by themselves since they filter zoomers
Feels good

>>280425588
Holy based

>>280433937
>some niche titles are still untainted.
Most are. Keep them untranslated, keep them unavailable.

>>280433990
You'd be surprised, Danganronpa is a perfect example of a VN that failed being gatekept, most of the "fanbase" is underage normalfags and pedos trying to groom them into trannies, 60% of them didn't even play it and just make up headcanons, 30% watched e-celebs play it and just repeat everything the e-celeb said and have no opinion of their own, only 10% have played them since each is minimum 30-40 hours of playing(reading)

>>280434136
A few couple of vns having cancer like that is not any different as something like naruto being "popular" around 2008-2009, 99% of the medium is still unreachable for those kind of people

God I fucking hate hipster incels. Bunch of subhumans, the lot of you.

>>280425588
Difference being Slayer was great, and SAO is awful tripe

>>280434136
that's just video games in general. most video gamers play japanese anime games dubbed in english. like, the vast majority of them, 90% at least .

>>280421421 (OP)
>Point of no return
We already crossed that point 30 years ago

Stuff outside of anime got more pozzed and dogshit and anime mostly stayed the same if not improved in some respects. Yeah there's the occasional darkie here or gay person there but there always was and you're not inundated with ugly girl bosses, BMWF couples and homosex outside of the designated yaoi/yuri boxes. This is important as many people crave this no matter what they say and so here we are, also it used to be a lot harder to watch anime that wasn't pokemon, DBZ or cowboy bebop but that's no longer the case either

>>280434544
>outside of anime
lol anime is more censored than ever

>>280434136
Not a problem with subahibi, utawarerumono, rance, baldr sky or maitetsu (a barely christian game)

>>280434136
With Danganronpa and something like saya no uta thats true but for eroge as a whole hell no, the medium barely sells anything at all nowadays. Moege is basically the only profitable eroge currently because of male otaku in jp waifufagging for yuzusoft titles etc. Reading filters 99% of people and it even filtered me for a little while, had to make reading a habit to start knocking out novels,vns and lns weekly.

>>280434566
Ok, that doesn't counter anything I said. In fact most of that censorship is western localizer scum doing their best to ruin anime so it falls in line with the dogshit people are watching anime to get away from, or jap companies doing it to get ahead of it getting censored in the west. Things in the west have gotten so bad that even anime being brought here has to get butchered so it can also suck ass, just look at how fucking whiny ANN is

>>280421421 (OP)
>What the hell changed with the normalfags?

When you have woke slop at every corner for western cartoons and tv shows.... it's not hard to see why they're switching to anime.
Nobody wants to watch woke slop. The writing is horrible and the art is ugly. Most old comic fans are turning into weebs because it's just way better in terms of story and artwork.

>>280428160
Roland

>>280422083
>the other chans have a heap of features 4chan still lacks due to the kikery of the owner+mods and the outdated code, where's our audio-webms?
When 4chan was hacked, I wish it had stayed dead for longer. I had some really good discussions on altchans those 2 weeks, and the features were way better, but as soon as 4chan came back they were abandoned and are now dead again.

Choice 1:
Anime

Choice 2:
Western woke slop

It's not hard to see why people are converting to anime.

>>280432588
>>280432721
Oh shit. I'm really sorry. I heard some Gen X normalfags (well one of them was literally a troon, but that's normal today) talking about this One Piece live action show and how cool it was. I chipped in and told them about the manga and they said it sounds interesting and they'd check it out. Whoops.

>>280421619
>People stopped immediately assuming cartoons were only for children
We did this to ourselves. We defended it from others back in the 2000s by saying "You know, it's not just for children. Animation is actually a medium and the Japanese understand that..." when we should have just gone "Yes, we're children! We're fags! Goo goo gaga! I am a pedophile!" and scared them off.

>>280434647
>Reading filters 99% of people and it even filtered me for a little while, had to make reading a habit to start knocking out novels,vns and lns weekly.
It's a good filter, I've always been fond of reading books about history or geography so I didn't mind reading, my biggest problems with books is giving each character a unique voice which for some reason I always found hard since I have like 5 default male and 5 default female voice that I use in my head so I liked that in VNs like Danganronpa when you talk to characters a little audio file plays with a few words that lets my brain easily mimic their voice saying their lines, if you udnerstand what I'm trying to say

>>280435475
Yeah I get ya, people can read maybe one or two works a year or two but to actually become an avid daily reader does require effort unless you did it very often as a kid, reading is a skill and unlike anime its a pretty active one that can even degrade over time so you gotta use it.

Literally suffering from success
Both japan and the original anime fans

>>280435560
true lol

>>280434701

You sound like a tourist too if you only got into anime because western media currently sucks.

>>280435560
VGH....

>>280434575
>Not a problem with subahibi, […] rance
Oh, my sweet summer child... They have been invaded by normalfags because of "le edgy epic Y2K aesthetic" with Saya no Uta and Kara no Shoujo.

don't watch Nube Remake this season if you don't wanna get blackpilled about the state of modern (and future) anime

>>280432470
normie is literally older than normalfag, twitter, twitch AND tumblr
https://old.sage.moe/_/search/text/normie*/order/asc/
https://old.sage.moe/_/search/text/normalfag*/order/asc
https://old.sage.moe/_/search/text/normals/order/asc

>>280435864
That's 4 eroge the medium has 1000s of other good works (many of them untranslated) and those aren't normalfags, Joe at work isn't raving to me about subahibi's dog rape scene or rance going on a rape spree and it being treated as fun.

>>280435936
What's wrong with it? Not that I have any plans on watching majority of remakes.

>>280428160
rolling for a nice pussy

>>280430468
enjoy it, someday your mom is going to die and you will cry like a fucking faggot and think that was nice and you will miss it. You are too young or too idiot to recognize thats an opprtunity to share, but hey, maybe this is the time to jerk off to hradcore hentai and porn, enjoy.

>>280436309
true now I'm going to jerk off to some sexy jk's

>dude my mom watched Candy and my grandpa watched Astro Boy, that means anime has always been mainstrean!
Why are retards like this? How can you not see the difference between a couple of shows coming out of the Japanese bubble and the whole shit being mainstrean?

>>280437345
What evidence do you have that anime as a whole is mainstreamer than before? There's no proof Boku no Pico is less niche than it was 15 years ago.

>>280437471
moe anime such as Bocchi the Rock and slice of life such as Spy x Family being watched and liked by the entire earth population

>>280437545
only because they have social media hype behind them, meanwhile normalfags still refuse to touch shows like Puniru or HibiMeshi

>>280437471
Are you living in a cave? Almost any anime becomes massively popular now regardless of genre or target audience. It's no longer a thing of a few big battle shonen or some ‘'mature’' dramas like it used to be, practically everything has the same appeal to people now because it's anime. Shit that would have been niche even in western otaku circles in 2009 is now snorted by normalfags like the purest coke.

>>280438046
nta but I dont what normalfags you know but the normalfags I know are
>no longer a thing of a few big battle shonen or some ‘'mature’' dramas like it
Bocchi and spy family getting big is indicative of hype superseding everything. Which is also why many similar anime have none with normalfags.

>>280437939

why

>>280438208
Call it what you want, they get into those shows and that's all that matters. Now romcom/SoL series are just as normalized as battle shonen, a lot of them become even more popular than your average big jump series. The truth is that normalfags have completely invaded this hobby and if you want to cover your eyes and pretend you don't see it that's fine, but it's not going to stop happening.

>>280436022
They were probably talking about secondaries. A lot of VN has them.

>>280421421 (OP)
That's what happens when you're basically the only country that creates non-ugly animation en masse that can be consumed by children, teens and adults around the world.

With the lack of competition, it was only a matter of time.

>>280438577
I'm not pretending, I literally don't see normalfags do what you describe because I hang out with them.

>>280438465
That asshole stole my thread that I unknowingly stole from someone else

>>280438591
I'm jealous of millennials who enjoyed it while it lasted.

Industry became anti lolicon. The rest is history.

>>280438684
/thread

There's a girl on tiktok called nosoyafrik. She went viral for a minute for going to a disguise party with a Naruto cosplay. I was worried for a second, but then I realized I hate Naruto, and that's casual shit anyways. We're safe, anons.
>>280438591
The real story is how badly western cartoons and comics dropped the ball. The latter in particular, you'd think that the popularity of marvel movies would have helped them. But no, even manga comfortably gained territory in the last two decades.

>The EVA Kensuke schizo is seething he's about people calling him ACK
>>280438563
>>280438212
This all started because he got mad Kiwifarms mad fun of him

>>280438684
in what way??

>>280438971
In the way there's no lolicon series coming out anymore, and loli fanservice gets removed for anime? Duh.

>>280438971
>Let me pretend!
Fuck off.

>>280438716
>you'd think that the popularity of marvel movies would have helped them
The problem is that you can't make everything about super heroes and expect to reach a large audience.
There's a manga for everything. I think that's why they became so popular, amongst other reasons.

>>280434136
>and pedos trying to groom them into trannies
dangaronpa pedo here, that's false I hate trannies

>>280421505
No one nerdy got kicked out of anime fandom, what the fuck are you talking about, schizo?
>>280421421 (OP)
>What the hell changed with the normalfags? If you told me 10 years ago that anime would become this mainstream I would’ve laughed in your face
my man...toonami returned over a decade ago, anime cons were growing even when it was dead (2008-2012), Dragon Ball returned via Kai and then Super. Combine that with the snowball effect of growing streaming services, etc - you were blind as fuck back then if you didn't see this coming.

Granted, COVID sped the process up. And as another anon said, western cartoons and comics majorly dropped the ball. But this was going to happen. If you didn't see this coming, I don't know. I guess you're the kind of guy that goes out on sunny days with a coat and umbrella "in case it rains"

>>280428160
Roll
>>280438998
Examples of toned down stuff? Not like I'd really care when I could just discover older stuff

>>280435058
Or just use Catbox dumbass

>>280438971
Kunoichi Tsubaki never got another season, I guess. I dunno, some anons have a weird definition of loli anyways.
>>280437471
I literally just saw an ad for a manga shop on ig making reference to Boku no Pico, and even showing a clip of it. I don't know what to tell you anon, this shit wasn't going to remain a secret club forever.

>>280439330
Ah so you're a newfag, good for you. Today they either remove the loli (aging up), or the fanservice.

>>280421505
How exactly are you being kicked out of watching anime?

>>280439330
>In the anime: gone
Meanwhile big woman gets so much added sexualization it's the talk of the town.

>I literally cannot watch anime if there isn't a child-like character being put in sexual situations
Even here, people with this mentality are weirdos, anon. I don't know what to tell you other than, you were always the equivalent of the load-bearing poster from the simpsons, at best.

>>280435784
Anon...a lot of people got into anime because they wanted something new and cooler looking.

>>280439482

The only exceptions are when some very cheap under the radar trash has some irrelevant loli that slips under the radar, but it will look like apologetic shit either ways , and definitely doesn't make the series lolicon even remotely.

>>280439508
>Chen avatar
Ironic.

Even /a/ itself loosened its elitist mentality.
If you made naruto threads in the early 2010s, you'd get spammed to hell and get told to kill yourself. Then Naruto ended, Dragon Ball Super started airing, Bleach ended, and you saw the board become much more open with threads about shonen shit.

I genuinely wonder what happened to the old guard that was gatekeeping. Did they get jobs and thus, too busy to shitpost? Did they simply give up? Did they go to anime cons and realize that what they were doing was autistic as fuck?

>>280421531
No one got kicked out of watching anime anon
>>280423371
This. Just a bunch of bitter fags itt because they still haven't gotten over being bullied over liking anime.
>>280423907
Anime cons grew massively, too. There's practically at LEAST one every month where I live.

>>280439933
Your retarded normalfag kind should still fuck off.

>>280439700
probably a combination of oldfags leaving and mods not giving a shit anymore
the one time they tried to do something about /dbs/ those fuckers just spammed the board and made it even more unusable

>>280439700
/q/ happened.

>>280432900
Attack on Titan

>>280424922
This is the other part of the puzzle. You see people complain about "woke" this and "feminazi" that. Surprise, people who are serious about those complaints just watch other stuff instead of just hatewatching.
>>280425814
This is weapons-grade cope. Anime cons got huge, I don't think you understand, anon. I've seen monotagari related cosplays in person. Times have definitely changed.

>>280440002
No. Anime industry itself changing explains the change in fandom.

>>280421421 (OP)
the kids who watched sunday morning anime grew up and had their own kids.

>>280439700
Telling kids they're retarded for watching anime I don't like gets exhausting after a while. Because no anon takes gatekeepers seriously anymore, and oldfags know that.

>>280432588
>the downfall of anime
/thread

>>280429802
Same. I feel vindicated. I always saw the potential in anime. What I didn't see coming was how much other entertainment mediums would decay. In my country, no one gives a shit about the movies and TV series made here. So naturally, via streaming, people prefer to watch anime, or hollywood stuff.
>>280430459
None of that is kissing ass, anon, I'm sorry that some of us don't have crippling insecurities over what we enjoy.

>/a/ gets an aislop thread that lasts for over a day
>now twitter screencap threads
Dire.
>western animation is dead
>all western cartoons are animated in korea
>western animation that isn't 100% outsourced is pixar/dreamworks, both doing very bad
>western animation is confined to being for kids only unless it's comedy, in which case it will generally get really poor, low budget baby animation and it'll be entirely about sex jokes and nonsense, nothing serious allowed
>anime offers an alternative and things geared for a more adult (by western standards, which would treat any given shounen show as a 17+ adult focused thing unless it's given the funimation tv-y7 dbz treatment) audience
>wtffff why this is popular now?!?!?!?!
Very unsurprising, the type of person who thinks a twitter screencap is a valid thread starter being this stupid.

>>280421505
This but nowadays the girls are trannies instead.

>>280433761
Yeah Fujoshi have been around since the 70s. The newfags are the ones asserting that anime hasn't always been gay and for girls. A lot of the people in here trying to say "girls ruined anime" outted themselves as never having been into anime before 2013. Normalfags used to just call you a gay faggot for being into this shit. So its not surprising girls like it.

>>280421869
>stop being a pleb and watch last season's generic slice of life omg so cooomfy XD show
>>280421915
Because /a/ is apparently now full of twitter screencap threads, ai advertisements, and the same type of board-killing cancer infesting boards like /v/ and /g/ I'd say /pol/ but they were already the cancer, which really makes trying to discuss anime and manga unappealing. Hell I alone am lucky to find one of the shows I'm watching during any given season having threads here, and most of the times they're just bumpfests with OP posting screencaps and webms of the current week's episode because most of the board doesn't care about anything unless they can either spam the worst quality shitposts imaginable (dbs types) or spam extremely effeminate posts about whatever character is their waifu of the week.

>>280439700
If you're here after age 30, you're a complete failure of a human being. Tastes change with the times and the oldfags likely decided to get their shit together and stop being basement dwelling creatures. Naruto, bleach and even now super are now old school to the new 15-20 year olds on the site.

>>280434566
>censorshipschizo
>listing things that are not shown in the tv broadcast because tv broadcast regulations aren't the same as they were in the 70s
>literally just nippleschizo and pantyschizo mating to make a faggot reddit chart

>>280439379
>just use a third party site because for literally no legitimate reason at all 4chan lacks basic features
Also catbox is fucking shit because it can't load video properly.
>>280435237
>wojaks on /a/
/a/ really has no jannies anymore.

>>280431743
>this man is a father
Grim

>>280430468
Eh, mine was watching it even before I was born I guess. I still remember those times whes she was buying pirated CDs of Candy Candy on the market

>>280431281
To be fair, xitterfags are the most prone to use ebonics nowadays.

>>280440983
I remember my anime fan friends in middle school hating Inuyasha and Fruits Basket because all the girls liked them

>>280421915
The mentally ill fanbase puts me off too much.

>>280441162
a lot of the
>if you're here after age X
is horseshit, anon, you'll realize it when you get there. There was a time when you'd be told to grow out of "cartoons" and you're most likely way past that age.

>>280442362
My point isn't necessarily about the anime or cartoons, you can be a decently adjusted human being and still watch anime and cartoons. Its specifically spending any decent amount of time on 4chan or a chan site that makes you a failure of a human being. Women loving anime now makes it far easier to obtain dates and girlfriends, in this day in age you're genuinely a lost cause if you're still here seething about Naruto.

>>280434136
Blame SomethingAwful and Tumblr for that.