Thread 280505839

I'm honestly shocked at how unpopular Kinnikuman is, not only in the west, but on /a/. For being a pre-2000s battle anime, which was pretty much the predecessor of them all and invented all the popular tropes, you'd think more normies and even anons would've been into this.

no one subs it

>>280505839 (OP)
funny how some different aspects helped the series to gatekeeping itself
>no international dub of the old anime thanks to the Brockens
>early comedy manga toiler humor filters most people trying to get into it
>"ugly protagonist"
also modern cynical normies can't take good ol campy friendship power

>>280505839 (OP)
It doesn't help that a lot of scans of the series are ROUGH.

>>280505839 (OP)
What >>280508354 said. The scans are the biggest filter for me.

>>280508354
>>280508394
Is not that bad, we have "new" scans

>>280505839 (OP)
It's an influential but altogether underwhelming forever shonen. Get rid of the one piece' dragon ball, and naruto threads and maybe we can spare some catalogue space on kinnikuman. There is already way too much of this shit here.

>>280508431
>"new" scans
Do we have the new scans translated?
I know I ran through kinniku man about 8 months ago and I couldn't find anything that looked decent for the first half of the series. It was very crunchy and at first a bunch of names weren't properly translated.

>>280505839 (OP)
Kinnikuman himself is a very awkward main character.
His development flies all over the place. Flip flopping between "I must fight" and "AIEEEEEEE I DUN WANNA FIGHT" at the drop of a hat sometimes.

The humour of the series is also very hit and miss. And a LOT of potty humour. A lot. Like holy fuck.

>>280508909
The whole point of his character is that he is always struggling with impostor syndrome due to being a complete loser until his mid 20's

>>280509197
Yeah but the problem is he just keeps doing it
Over and over and over.
For like 40 years
Long after he's proven to people and to himself that he is the real deal.
You can't just have imposter syndrome as your personality. Its a good flaw for a character to overcome but kinnikuman acts like he never gets over it.

Fucking S3 when.

>>280508431
Kinnikuman scanlation is amongst the worst I have ever seen, it always has some kind of issue involving the people working on it.

>>280505839 (OP)
It took a while for the fansubs to get through the original.

Original series and Scramble for the Throne are done now. I believe the group is working on movies now. They've got like 1 or 2 movies for the original to do. They've done the Nisei movies already. They intend on subbing the Nisei series after finishing the remaining movies.

I'm surprised Netflix didn't grab the original alongside the new one. Although Discotek hinted that the Ultimate Muscle BD may not have done well.

Honestly, Kinnikuman's humor sucks, like Toriyama also uses potty humor but it just feels miles ahead of Yude in that regard.

>>280508503
You didn't look hard enough. Someone took the shitty ToriyamasWorld translations and transplanted them onto "clean" scans a couple years ago. They WERE up on Mangadex, but they're probably lost after the scrub.

>>280513424
my biggest surprise when I started reading the 2011 series is how even 3 decades later they still find the exact same kind of potty humor hilarious

>>280505839 (OP)
I'm shocked at how little bara art there is for the franchise. Practically every character fits some gay fantasy. But then there's hardly any bara art, even BL art.

>>280513564
Not even used in a clever way, it just boils down to Kinnikuman crapping his pants.

>>280513579
chicks like Brocken Jr

>>280513579
There's enough of it that a certain visual novel about Doujinshi culture in the late 90s cracked a joke about it. It's just kind of old in Japan at this point.

Nisei did spawn a fuckton of Mars/Kevin and Mars/Jeager fanart, though.

>>280505839 (OP)
That's how I feel about Hokuto No Ken. It really doesn't seem to be as popular as it should be.

>>280511327
Ashuraman has normal theeths

>>280505839 (OP)
A lot of it just flops.
>Oh no the evil chojin! We must defeat them for the sake of justice
But they only ever attack other chojin. It feels more like just excuses to have fights in the first place which is fine but these days you want a bit more meat on your plate.

>>280513579
Lmao I've seen like one bit of Kinnikuman porn and it was about Black Hole and Pentagon DPing Mai from Fatal Fury over the course of like six doujins

>>280514531
if evil choujin want to take over the world they must take the W on ring first, don't ask me why, it's some sort of unspoken rule

The character designs are unappealing and the humor is terrible

>>280515763
That's still post-revival. Original run had none of it.

>>280516741
that's from nisei, actually

>>280505839 (OP)
normalfag weebs refuse to acknowledge the existence of anything older than Dragon Ball

>>280516741
The villains always have a reason for attacking the Chojin. In the original run, the Devil Chojin attack the Idols because of the rivalry between the Gold and Silver Masks. Neptuneman and King Neptune are the spearheads of an invasion from outer space. And the fake princes are chosen by the Evil Gods to have one of their own ruling the Chojin. Before that, the bad guys were either kaiju that attacked cities almost indiscriminately, or corrupt chojin that used force to subjugate weaklings.

Did we ever get a release date for the next cour of the new series? I remember hearing about some kinnikuman event earlier this month but I might have missed that thread.

it has no hype or aura

>>280516977
It's literally all hype and aura.

>>280516941
August 3rd is the Chojin Festival, we'll probably get the release date then.

>>280517074
Awesome thanks.

>>280509392
He grew on me pretty quickly, but the fact that the tone of the series isn't too serious helps too.

I prefer the new Go Fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whOWsuBAjBE

>>280517024
Kinnikuman is the only series where the power of friendship is always pure hype instead of pure cringe

>>280508909
He's a lot better as the joke side character who can lay the beatdown and get serious when the moment calls for it, which is what the revival does in exchange for giving other characters screentime.

I tried reading it back in 2018, got about 100 chapters in but the scans sucked so much ass, like worse than the cell saga scans back in the day

>>280517208
Miyano's voice is too clean in my opinion. I do want to hear his version of Honoo no Kinnikuman though. Hopefully they do that at Chojin Fest.

>>280517277
There's been some cleaner rips since then. Check the archives for the Kinnikuman Storytime. They're still far from perfect though.

>>280516854
Well it's still post-original.
>>280516924
I have no memory of that. The devil chojin just separate Meat when they show up so they can force the justice chojin to fight them. It's supposedly where things get more serious according to fans but it all starts from a gag contrivance. Yudetamago were inexperienced and it shows. Even if that Golden Mask detail is there its only added retroactively and wasn't thought out. Not that it's bad to update things as you go but Kinnikuman was always especially clunky about this.

>>280517413
Kinnikuman is the kind of series where absolutely nothing was ever planned and each new arc introduces a shit ton of retcons, so who cares if it's not something from the original series?

>>280517231
You're a total friendlet. Friendship power has always been good. It's only cringe in slop like Fairy Tail. It's not like the friendship is especially strong in its writing in Kinnikuman anyway, even if it is a plot point.
>>280517464
I bring it up because its relevant and it's what you need to read before the continuations. I can't just pretend it wasn't there.

>>280505839 (OP)
I love Kinnikuman and I'm not

>Subs for the entire anime didn't even finish until like a year ago
>Scanlations for the OG manga are pretty iffy
>Even when the scans got better the translation still sucks
>Wrestling itself isn't as popular as it was so it looks silly
>Dragon Ball took all the momentum and already touched like 3 generations worth of people in the eras that actually mattered so everything novel that Kinnikuman did will just fall flat
>Brockenman/Brocken Jr never let them get pass censors back then
>Kinnikuman is visually unappealing at a glance

Honestly if they just dubbed the new anime when it finishes I could see it kinda getting some relevance but its just way too old and people don't care.

>>280513579
There's a ton on Pixiv and Twitter.
For me, it's Buffaloman and Terry

>>280517609
>Even when the scans got better the translation still sucks
One part in particular makes it feel like your brain is melting while reading it. I'm sure you know which part I'm talking about.

>>280517508
friendpill me with others good friendship power mangas, I always see anons talking about it with Kinnikuman and Fairy Tail only

>>280519473
The entire Throne arc and the funny accents at the start of the revival were messing with my head.

I think the manga and anime with no official English release probably faces some hurdles when it comes to reaching an English audience. JoJo went six parts without an English manga release, then they drop an anime with subtitles on a streaming service and suddenly everyone is watching it.

>>280513579
Eh, you can find plenty if you know the correct tags.

>>280515763
Typical Frenchies.

>>280505839 (OP)
It got usurped by Fairy Tail for those who want friendship kino. Also too many poop jokes.

I have a theory that fanatic might be the creator of lightning

>>280519885
Not him, but Sentai Red Isekai

>>280505839 (OP)
How's the original Kinnikuman compared to Nisei (anime)? Because Nisei is possibly the worst anime i've ever seen.

>>280520232
Just goes to show you just how anime centric things are in the US, even if manga routinely outsells comics.

>>280520987
Better, but you should be reading the manga.

>>280508909
I feel he's only really bad during Scramble for the Throne, felt like he was flipflopping between every fight there.

>>280505839 (OP)
saw a lot of people turned off by episode 0 of the recent anime
also is Season 3 happening or what

>>280516594
Shut the fuck up and kys moetranny

Battleship status?

>>280521773
We'll know by August 3rd.

>>280505839 (OP)
Personally, the length was my biggest reason for not reading.
The new anime and the storytime helped me overcome this and now I'm up to date. But I do understand why some won't make the jump

>>280508481
I seconds this, Naruto should be banned

One week until the Nisei storytime

>>280505839 (OP)
I liked it as a kid

>>280513755
Both ARE popular amongst the chainsmoking, pachinko parlor frequenting ojisan salarymen

>>280513618
Toriko was much better with the potty humor

Chapter 499 is out
https://wpb.shueisha.co.jp/comic/2025/07/13/127612/

I think the main reason why fujos don't lust over the Kinnikuman cast is because the moments of male comradery never feel homoerotic like they do in most shounenshit. It's the total opposite to Saint Seiya which is legitimately the gayest shit ever.

>>280508481
I feel like the Kinnikuman storytime was a pretty good one.

>>280528134
Buffaloman=Pluto

>>280527628
i thought they hated pandering.

>>280531071
if they hate pandering why do they get so mad when one of the fags they lust over gets in a relationship with a girl in canon?

it has absolute dogshit humor and action that only dumb japanese children who made sticking a finger up someone's ass something of a cultural symbol
>UOOOOHHH I'M GONNA FUCKING FAAAAAART
come the fuck on

>>280505839 (OP)
It's just not that good. Manga that came afterwards perfected the recipe.

>>280526989
>15 kilo dump
Goddamn I get you'd feel amazing after, like your soul is lighter

>>280527628
>the moments of male comradery never feel homoerotic like they do in most shounenshit
Nigga have you SEEN Asuraman and Sunshine

>>280531493
He doesn't even need the push of his farts, though.

>>280532868
That's a whole toddler's weight in poop, so yeah.

the biggest inconsistency in the series that I never saw anyone pointing is how at the beginning Kinnikuman was this huge pervert but later when Bibimbap is introduced he acts like a dense borderline asexual romcom MC

>>280533734
bruh, 15 kg is a 4-6 year old kid weight

Thoughts on the latest chapter?

>>280531696
Filtered, the action is kino

>>280505839 (OP)
>tfw this series is the reason Gormiti exists I'll learn to mimic Yude's style and then draw all the classic ones

>>280505839 (OP)
This is an Ultimate Muscle board
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRwJvOm395E

>>280534649
American toddler.

>>280505839 (OP)
it could have been popular in France, it was airing on TV but the council of audiovisual cancelled after 46 episodes because "You can't show a nazi symbol in a good light"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja_xAFUILo8

>>280506256
It also has no internal consistency with massive wild retcons every arc.

>>280536344
Didn't the guy who sang this just die recently?

>>280505839 (OP)
It's a series with a far more restrictive premise (Ultraman parody then nonstop wrestling with gag manga elements) than its successors on top of a somewhat steep barrier entry
Plus even the traditionally good looking characters like Terry are pretty weird looking which is always going to throw people off
I have no idea why people keep being shocked the series isn't some big mainstream hit nor do I know if it's really that big of a deal

>>280536344
You wouldn't be saying that if you saw the reactions every time Nisei gets so much as mentioned

>>280538873
As a first-timer, everyone having a meltdown about Kevin Mask almost every single storytime dump was hilarious. Can't wait for Nisei.

Kinnikuman Shadow as a main arc villain fucking when

>>280539128
Do we NEED another Dark Kinnikuman?

>>280534705
Excavator is becoming one of my favorite time choujin, guy seems to be the complete oppossite of Pessimiman

>>280538953
The seething will be great.

>>280508909
>>280509392
There's a noticeable shift in his character after learning from Kamehame. He's still goofy, but he actually starts taking his fights seriously and doesn't just act like a coward all the time. They still keep elements of that, but it's not his defining characteristic. That's one of the reasons Kinnikuman still has fans but Nisei is largely forgotten. The other is that, as >>280517232
pointed out, Kinnikuman's allies share the spotlight with him, whereas Nisei's cast is just Mantaro, Kevin, and a whole lot of jobbers.

>>280538953
I expect thesis-long text walls about how he sucks. With no spoilering of said text, of course.

>>280539430
pic related is the worst case of author alzheimers I have ever seen

>>280540186
What about the page in the original where Akuma Shogun puts Geronimo in a hold, and in the very next panel on the same page, Geronimo on the sidelines comments on the move being performed on himself.

>>280540558
>that's not a costume
Jeez

>>280540558
Canadaman tanked that by the way
Come on...give him a win...

>>280540558
>>280541073

>>280506256
ok

>>280540269
that's author schizophrenia

THE MARKS ARE IN THE RING

>>280506021
Lol?
>Kinnikuman (Original Manga)
Fully translated.
>Kinnikuman (First TV Anime)
Fully subbed.
>Kinnikuman Movies
Fully subbed.
>Scramble For The Throne
Fully subbed.
>Kinnikuman Niisei (Manga)
Fully translated.
>Kinnikuman Niisei: Dream Tag Team
Mostly translated.
>Kinnikuman Niisei
Not subbed, fully dubbed.
>Kinnikuman Niisei Movies
Fully subbed.
>Perfect Origin
Fully subbed.

People just don't care about Kinnikuman because it's too late. Niisei was actually incredibly popular when it aired via 4kids dub, but they didn't really TRY to capitalize on it, but also, how could they?
4kids subbed all that they got, which was two seasons. Toei never did the rest of Niisei or the sequel series.
Viz translated the whole manga, but it wasn't some massive hit.
4kids couldn't do the original anime because a) the flagrant racism and b) it was simply too old.
Viz couldn't do the original manga primarily just because of the racism and vulgarity, they'd have to censor the majority of it to maintain the same readerbase.

So, Kinnikuman just faded away.

>>280505839 (OP)
i only know this series because of the jump games on the nintendo ds that id play with my older brother

>>280541073
His pal will do it for him.

>>280508481
>he says with an uma musame gacha reaction pic

kinnikubump

>>280550246
we won't even need the push of our farts to have this thread reach bump limit

>>280547685
dont most new manga rereleases in japan skip over that island arc anyways?

>>280505839 (OP)
I think a big thing is that it's stilla wrestling manga in the end. Even if there are super powers the fighting choreography and general visual language is nothing like the later shounen.

>>280551171
yeah I can't think of any other series that mixes superpowers with irl martial arts logic.

>>280505839 (OP)
Isn't there a new anime coming out? I'll watch it when that releases

>>280550599
Yes, though there's still the whole Chanelman thing.

>>280505839 (OP)
I mean just look at that main character's design
I get it's a mask but it doesn't really make for a good first impression

>>280553390
and we are only suppose to know that it's a mask around halfway through the series, which means that during a good chunk of the original manga run readers were expected to believe that he actually looked like that

>>280527628
The barriers of entry to Kinnikuman is too high for most. On the contrary I've seen some of the art and fanfics, what fujos that are into the series cream themselves over characters like Sunshine, Robin, Kevin, Warsman, etc.

>>280541073
>tanked
Anon...
>>280547923
>His pal will do it for him.
It just doesn't hit the same, man.

So what exactly IS ultimate muscle?

>>280527628
I assure you, the buff burly men talking about how much they trust and love each other has had a long history of homoerotica written about them. It's not as prominent overseas, but in its home territory there is plenty of content. They don't have any designated female eyecandy anyway.

>>280555122
The heart.

>>280505839 (OP)
They missed their chance at potentially getting a new western audience by not making a remake, though I ultimately understand their decision. desu I don't really care so much that it isn't popular in the West, rather I wish it was popular enough in Japan to warrant a new video game or appearance in non-mobile crossovers once in a while.

>>280555609
They finally recruited my sorry ass. After 25 years of watching anime I don't know how I missed Kinnikuman. I am a huge fan of Gintama too. I can't be alone in rediscovering this series because of the sequel on netflix.

>>280550123
Cinderella gray is unironically a modern classic. And seinen.

>>280505839 (OP)
Way too random, and not in a funny way.

>>280555879
For sure I'm certain a few people discovered the series thanks to it, but I imagine they were expecting more and I'm not really sure how that could have happened with the material they went with. But as mentioned I get the decision, from what I understand Yude also wanted to do right by long-time fans so it was either now-or-never to cover the Perfect Origin stuff, which as a long-time fan myself I can't complain.

>>280556710
>and not in a funny way.

Says you.

>>280553095
>Chanelman

There is literally nothing wrong with blackface, just another American tradition demonized and only recently too, there is a reason many Americans would look at Jynx and Mr Popo in the 90s and not even see a problem because it never registered to anyone until some bitch complained about it in the newspaper.

>>280505839 (OP)
It looks bad, so I will not watch/read it
I have better things to do

>>280557561
>just another American tradition demonized and only recently too
> recently

That's just objectively false, especially considering things like Warner Bros. "Censored Eleven" that haven't been distributed officially since the late 60s.

>>280519885
Dai no Daibouken. Most manga don't integrate it with the power system though. Power of friendship is pivotal to almost any positive story you can think of in some way and it's more than just power ups.

>>280547685
>Kinnikuman Niisei: Dream Tag Team
>Mostly translated.
You know this is finished now as well right.

>>280557602
Shit taste

>>280557602
>I have better things to do

I'm sure shitposting on /a/ keeps your schedule busy.

i miss unsinkable battleshipposting

>>280560474
>Because of the MD purge Kinnikuman Lady scans have stopped
Again, proof that there is no God.

>>280560810
God is real, but he's an asshole.

>>280519885
Digimon V-Tamer, it shows off the power of the 100% combination

>>280555609
>I wish it was popular enough in Japan to warrant a new video game or appearance
I'd kill for another Galactic Wrestling or Muscle Grand Prix 2, but I fear I'd monkey paw myself and we'd end up getting something super shitty.

>>280561231
It'd have to be something truly awful to somehow be worse than gacha hell.

Kevin Mask was raped in the sweltering hot summer of 92

>>280536344
Me and my brother watched it as kids because it was the only thing on after DBZ. It sucked but we liked it. Even as children the humor was so stupid and unfunny.

>>280555122
Kinnikuman's equivalent do Dragon Ball GT

>>280560479
Very nice

>>280505839 (OP)
I love Kinnikuman but WE REALLY NEED NEW TRANSLATIONS for the old manga

>>280523642
Honestly the worst part of the length is the first 5 or so volumes are pretty much complete ass on top of it, and it's not until the series jumps shark to actually be the wrestling-focused series that it became known to be that it gets good.
It was one of the things brought up during the storytime too.

>>280526989
Kind of agree. Toriko is a more normal shit joke you'd make with your buddies. Kinnikuman always takes it's jokes to the extreme.

>>280523642
>>280563284
I think the bad translations are the biggest problem

There's nothing stopping them from Dragon Ball Kai-ing the old Kinnikuman or at least Scramble for the Throne besides maybe Toei being a bitch. It's even the cheapest route to take.

>>280563489
They wouldn't bother considering Nisei underperformed in Japan.

>>280559785
Did they actually finish TL'ing all the chapters or are there still gaps

>>280563489
Maybe if the current bubble maintains and studios get REALLY desperate for legacy IPs to cash in on that'd happen.
The thing with Kinnikuman is that, in Japan, kids are still watching reruns of it. It's still ever-present, same with Dragon Ball and Saint Seiya and the Matsumoto anime, that's why these don't tend to get remakes.
Most anime remakes that do exist have express purposes:
>Hunter x Hunter (2011)
Madhouse wanted to fully capitalize on potential merch they could make and so rebooted the anime.
>Urusei Yatsura
"Best of" type anime designed to, again, capitalize on merch.
>Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
Planned second series. Was always in the works.
>Ranma 1/2
Re-adaptation to be more faithful to the manga since the original was laden with filler and never finished.
>Yaiba
Passion project + the original never reached the ending.
>Saint Seiya
West driven production.

There is no real reason to redo Kinnikuman in such a way. Even Dragon Ball Kai itself, while not a remake, did have an express purpose- it was time slot filler.

>>280565218
What would Bocchi's finishing move be?

>>280560810
>>280560844
Kinnikuman got purged too

>>280564986
>There is no real reason to redo Kinnikuman in such a way. Even Dragon Ball Kai itself, while not a remake, did have an express purpose- it was time slot filler.

The Scramble for the Throne anime was a mess, all because they wanted Mari to be the winning girl, and all for what? A literal slap to the face ending in all the senses? After all of the cockteasing?

Fuck, if anything they should put a Kai on that anime and have it so Mari just gives up when Kinnikuman heals and kisses Bibimba and change the ending to the Terryman vs Kinnikuman fight, and NOT hook up Bibimba with Phoenix

>>280567666
I’d assume a head butt but it’s probably gonna be something to do with her feet

>>280564800
TL is finished and the gaps are all done. It was completed a few months ago, relatively recently at least.

I still wasn't a huge fan but it is worth a read for sure.

>>280568141
Purge aside, iy's more the eternal cursed state of the scanlation which is the problem with Kinnikuman's current scans.

>>280573652
Now do the original manga

>>280505839 (OP)
Peak of interest in the west was during the 2000s with Kid Muscle with how popular Wrestling was.

Revival and the anime were never going to be popular. No waifu gooning material, no crazy bankai/domain expansion wacky death games, no powerlevel faggotry. It's just its own thing and I like it for that.

>>280560479
>Me? Why would I know?
actually accurate for Geronimo

>>280574353
>no powerlevel faggotry
Anon...

>>280576274
He's right. Kinnikuman has a satisfying answer to powerlevel faggotry.
>enemy has a busted move?
go train, surpass your limits, don't give up
>enemy has an incredibly high PL?
go train, surpass your limits, don't give up
>enemy has millions of years of training?
go train, surpass your limits, don't give up
>enemy are literal gods?
go train, surpass your limits, don't give up
And even then sometimes they don't win despite all of that and get raped like Nemesis; you gotta respect it.
>>280574353
>No waifu gooning material, no crazy bankai/domain expansion wacky death games, no powerlevel faggotry. It's just its own thing and I like it for that.
Based. I agree.

>>280574353
>>280576494
>No waifu gooning material
You sure?

>>280574344
No point while the revival is still behind. Re-doing the whole of the original manga would take forever and no one has time for that, the people who TL Kinnikuman are either all mentally insane depressed bastards or keep quitting after a short period. Sometimes both.

>>280574353
>Revival and the anime were never going to be popular.
It's at least still popular with old JP men, ANN did an article looking at which shows are disporpotionately popular in JP and US and it was Kinnikuman in Japan and the fucking Rick & Morty anime for US. They also then proceeded to not mention Kinnikuman in the whole fucking article other than the image in the header, fucking morons.

>>280577739
>It's at least still popular with old JP men, ANN did an article looking at which shows are disporpotionately popular in JP and US and it was Kinnikuman in Japan and the fucking Rick & Morty anime for US. They also then proceeded to not mention Kinnikuman in the whole fucking article other than the image in the header, fucking morons.

>ANN

>picrel was a Kinnikuman reference this whole time
>mfw

>>280527628
>never feel homoerotic

> Kevin lets himself be beaten to a pulp over the mere idea that Chloe might not have faith it him, he also repairs Warsman's Chloe mask and continues to carry it around for months.
> Mantaro ponders outloud whether Kevin might be gay.
> Sunshine carried Ashuraman's photo for decades and they are THE example of friendship between evil doers, being loyal to each other even more than to Akuma.

Nisei was one step away from saying that the truest form of love a man can experience is a bro who sticks with him through thick and thin, shit's gay as fuck for anyone even mildly inclined to see it that way.

Like everyone else said, the real problem is that by now the manga is huge and there's no easy way to consume it all, and the revival expects you to have read prior material while also making Nisei's canon status vague.

>>280579975
Don't forget Psychoman clinging to his hundred-million-year long companion Silverman and keeping his room the same all this time, as the two of them disappear from the world together.

>>280550516
maybe a few farts

>>280576926
Bibimba is completely absent from the series.

>Mangadex deleted all the Kinnikuman chapters
>No one ever backed them up elsewhere(a lot of them)
it really is over
The retards who run that site really do kill the only archives left of certain things on a whim.

>>280580430
Bro really thought Silverman fucked a bunch of women and founded a philosophy and bloodline just for him and the Perfect agenda. I almost felt bad for him lol.

>>280582521
https://comick.io/comic/kinnikuman

>>280582521
All of them are in desuarchive thanks to the storytime

>>280505839 (OP)
The manga is good, the old anime was ass sometimes, too many political and showbiz references for me, also some censorship here and there, then again the manga was pretty brutal.

>>280582261
She appeared in the manga for a single panel.

>>280582521
>All of the chapters have either been deleted or changed sites
>But shivano...
>It is no use sunshine
>I too am joining the desu league!

>>280582701
Shit, i've read this in their voices

>>280582701
We MUST make Shivanoposting a site wide meme

>>280560554
Hey, remember when he was too injuried to continue his choujin career?

>>280519885
Gash Bell comes to mind

>>280583214
He had treatable Leukemia and was throwing a bitchfit for no reason.

Is Mantaro ever mentioned in the revival?

>>280583310
No, only Chaos is in and we love Chaos(the faction) here

>Suguru, we forgot you on Earth so that you may rule over them, destroy and subjugate anyone who may oppose
>Take as many of their women as you can, have children with them, recreate the Kinniku race

>>280583393
How did their marriage last that long?

>>280583393
That doesn't work when Suguru is the bastard son of Ultraman Ken who cheated on his wife

>>280505839 (OP)
It's ugly. Even as a kid when Ultimate Muscle was on tv I didn't watch it because they characters were fucking ugly. Why does the main character have giant lips and flesh fin?

>>280583612
It's an Ultraman parody and the cgaracters don't look ugly

>>280583612
It's a mask, they literally show it in the opening

>>280582261
It feels really weird we get no reactions from friends or family. They don't have to be physically there, just have them watch the match on TV and have then make a comment or two. Robin fucking dies and his wife gets zero mention.

>>280583310
The revival takes place immediately after where the old series ended, right after the princes arc

The sequel story hasn't happened yet

>>280583214
>too injuried
The real injury was the Kinnikuman "doesn't count" mindbreak that's forever ongoing.
>>280583762
I like that about the series tbqhwy. Even Robin's wife accepts the fact that Robin's career, ambition, and the fate of the universe is more important than their relationship. There's no argument, it just is, and every chojin spouse must accept as well.

>>280584033
i figured that Suguru has at least impregnated Bibimba by now, no?

>>280584126
>Even Robin's wife accepts the fact that Robin's career, ambition, and the fate of the universe is more important than their relationship.
That shouldn't stop her from getting a reaction though, specially when you consider she had one in his first death.

Wasn't there a storytime that was supposed to happen over the summer?

>>280584341
It is over....

>>280584355
BUT SHIVANO

>>280584226
I understand what you're saying and you have a point, but to be honest I don't care about seeing her reaction. Her reaction isn't going to affect the outcome either way. It's just extra fluff from a noncombatant for drama.

>>280584355
>Pokespe hasn't posted the nisei storytime
>But shivano...
>It is no use sunshine!
>we have to wait until July 21st!

>>280584397
Ayy!
It'll be my first time reading Nisei. Can't wait to get angry like anons say I will be.

>>280561329
>29
BAWK

>>280561329
By who?

>>280584226
Didn't she just left him in the original manga which gets mentioned during the Warsman arc

>>280585946
Kinnikuman went to America
Robin Mask feeling dejected also went to America to fight in underground fighting rings, abandoning his wife in japan
She then traveled the world trying to find him again only to watch him die to Atlantis
Then she wasn't mentioned again until she had his kid

>>280586231
No I believe that was Anime only, in the manga he just deserted her, also the way the anime structures and edits the scene it looks like he pushed down Lol.

There was one spinoff chapter that has Robin as a hobo but then somehow getting involved with a new brit chick.

>>280586534
Anime only had her dying offscreen then replacing her with her twin sister Toei made up

>>280586534
No the anime just killed her off

In the manga she showed up when he fought Atlantis just to watch him die.

>>280536344
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ifC0Yp8N14&t=51s

>>280586534
I love the anime's tendency to just make things worse lmao

>>280584137
All of them decided to have kids pretty late.

Explains why they're all retarded.

>>280590937
Toei boomers really hated Bibimba and the serious tone

Kinnikuman has an all male cast and no waifus to jerk off to.

>>280556710
The defense suit fight was unbearable the first time I read it, but the storytime made it hilarious.

>>280592070
Warsman is in that picture though.

>>280505839 (OP)
The character designs are unappealing, and although it was one of the original innovators in battle manga, we've already seen better versions of everything it has to offer in other series (which is also why nobody outside of Japan gives a shit about Ring ni Kakero).
The only chance this would have had to be popular in the west is if they had dubbed the original anime in the '80s to promote the M.U.S.C.L.E. toyline. When Dragon Ball beat Kinnikuman to the western market, it was over for the latter.

>>280505839 (OP)
It's a sequel, non-USians didn't watch the first series since it never aired on tv in the 90s/00s and the types of anons that visit /a/ nowadays shun anime with men.

there's a considerable community of toy collectors obsessed with the M.U.S.C.L.E figures in the west that aren't even aware that it comes from an old ass anime

>>280593183
B U T S H I V A N O !

>>280593183
>we've already seen better versions of everything it has to offer in other series

Nah, Kinnikuman is unmatched when it comes to that "WHAT IF PRO-WRESTLING REAL?" kind of feeling.

>>280584226
Which happened while they were divorced, no less

>>280593183
>we've already seen better versions of everything it has to offer in other series
Perfect Origin Arc is the best arc in any battle shounen.

>>280597087
Perfect Origin is battle seinen.

>>280596727
> directed by Quentin Tarantino

C'mon man, their toes aren't even out.

>>280598381
kek

>>280594113
Were there actual plans to release the anime in the US under that name? they released the famicom game like that too

incorrect, he is very popular in la countries due chilean dub, we are people

>>280603586
Yeah it's really just the English speaking world that didn't get OG Kinnikuman. Even most of the English speaking fanbase are from LA countries that just happen to also speak English.

>>280588938
Sunshine hiding behind the cuck rock will never not be funny

>>280593183
Faggot

>>280603645
>it's really just the English speaking world that didn't get OG Kinnikuman
Must've been a specific reason for that.

>>280505839 (OP)
Is it strange that Bobobo-bo-bobo got more notoriety in the US than this?

>>280606673
Gee I wonder.
>>280606713
Bobobo actually got a dub in the US.

>>280505839 (OP)
It just doesn't have appealing characters, that's why.

>>280607403
Kys tranny

>>280606713
It is somewhat ironic given how much the Bobobo author liked Kinnikuman and took a lot from it.

Even the manga itself admits that the OG designs aren't particularly appealing with the bit in nisei about how suddenly there were a lot more female wrestling fans showing up to see Kevin, Checkmate, Jade and Scarface fight.

>>280609173
Nisei designs sucked, OG designs are always classic cool

>>280609173
Some hit some don't. Brocken Jr and Terryman are literally just regular human looking. Kinnikuman is also a naked man with a pig face. I like Robin and Warsman, they are cool and will always look cool.

>>280609173
>the hercules factory had lots of cool designs
>they pick two furries to be main cast members

why?

>>280609624
Gorgeousman could have solo'd the dMp, but the HF HR wouldn't let him go out in public.

>>280609594
Brocken Jr. would have to be the coolest motherfucker alive to be able to get the average modern western fan to overlook the fact that his powers come from nazism.

when is the nisei storytime

>>280609539
Come on

>>280610236
Someone dropped the 17th in an earlier thread. Who knows if that was actually pokespe though.

>>280609716
>>280610086
Gorgeousman and Brocken Jr. tag team when?

>>280611788
>88
Now, I guess. Name their tag team.

>>280611812
The Final Solution

>>280610236
July 21

>>280611825
I hate you so much

>>280611727
Once you watch both series, I can guarantee OG designs shits on the Nisei ones. Hulk Hogan will always be 100x cooler than "A walrus" or "whatever the fuck Mars was, some sort of bird"

>>280612409
the gangster overbody should have been Mars's default form

>>280612409
Well, that’s what happens when you get designs sent by fans and besides Seiu and Mars’s designs aren’t that bad, also Jade and Checkmate are cool

>dolphin shorts
>sweatpants
>yellow sneakers
>a single kneepad

How high your IQ need to be to understand Phoenix's fashion sense?

>>280547685
>Kinnikuman Niisei
>Not subbed, fully dubbed.
you know damn well that fucking dub is an abomination and completely ruins the show by rewriting the script to make it funny for americans at the time
Its practically a different show, it even reorganizes the scenes to make their new scripts make sense

>>280612948
The dub is fine for what it's trying to do, which is to bring Kinnikuman to American children. It worked, probably the most popular Kinnikuman ever was in America.
It's also no great loss since Niisei is a pretty bad adaptation.

>>280612799
He’s a poorfag, don’t sweat it too much

>>280612799
If Phoenix is so smart, then why isn't he rich?

>>280613552
because the Kinniku Planet is basically a third world shithole despite being the mecca of choujin

>>280612799
Phoenix being australian is the most random nationality after Painman being argentinian and Mirageman being portuguese

>>280613695
Maybe with some characters they just decide their nationality by throwing darts at a world map.

I liked him better.

>>280614074
Mantaro was basically the original Boruto

>>280614092
your not wrong.

>>280609624
Apolloman, The Adams, and Gorgeousman were genuinely so cool looking they deserved better.

>>280614092
The popularity polls really show what a stroke of genius it was to pair up Warsman and Kevin.

>>280551171
>>280538587
Like these anons mentioned its because its a wrestling manga. Most people dont ‘get’ wrestling. I definitely dont. Think you’re underestimating how niche it is, its like asking why a mahjong or sumo manga aren’t mainstream hits

>>280614135
This one panel makes me question so many things about who made it and who let it happen

>>280614074
He kinda won me over eventually.

>>280560554
KINNIKUMAN'S GREATEST RIVAL
THE GENTLEMAN OF THE RING
THE BARRACUDA
THE RAINBOW COLORED KNIGHT
THE GENTLE HURRICANE
THE POET OF THE RING
THE MASKED NOBLE
THE CHOUJIN PROFESSOR
THE LEADER OF JUSTICE CHOUJIN
THE UNSINKABLE BATTLESHIP
THE GREATEST RAMPAGER
ROBIN MASK!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnVZZsh4rcM

>>280613591
it's true

>>280506021
Why?

>>280560554
Never lost to Kinnikuman, btw.

>>280612409
Seiuchin looked cool when he went evil.

>>280505839 (OP)
The manga itself is a pain to get into because you have to slog through like 100 chapters of boring trite before it starts to become anything even remotely resembling coherency with the whole Warsman vs Ramenman thing.
Before that every chapter is just your bog-standard showa-era gag manga bullshit (dude poop funny haha) and non-sequitur wrestling moves.

By that point I'd kinda run outta steam and just lost interest.

finally a big kinnikuman thread

>>280616170
My fucking HERO

>>280505839 (OP)
Dude, zoomers don't care about this. We like Dandadan

still unbelievable how an ultraman parody became the hit it is, and still unbelievable that it;s the only one that's a hit for the creators

>>280622717
>we

>>280606713
Bobobo's dub ran all the way through on Toonami between other popular shows so its not that surprising

>honestly shocked at how unpopular Kinnikuman
newfag - where's the retarded fanon or hentai?

>>280623012
Lightning in a bottle.

>>280624482
Idk tumblr maybe

No word on season 3?

>>280626432
>New Hokuto no Ken anime got terrible CGI animation
We really got lucky with Production IG

>>280626555
I don't think I will ever get hyped for anything ever again after seeing Hokuto getting massacred like that

>>280626741
It's dangerous to hope.