Thread 280522144

Bofoibros...

So, Bofoi isn't a villain and Genos was manipulated completely by Drive Knight, as I expected

>>280522144 (OP)

i'd really like to know what did he talk about with CE

>>280522565
CE gets so upset he bursts into tears.

Seeing this, Bofoi says, “Alright, whatever. I’m kinda bored, so I’ll just answer your question.”

Bofoi reveals that years ago, someone stole data from his weapon systems. Instead of exposing it, he pretended not to notice and used it to gather intel.

He says he’s been tracking the mastermind’s location and once it’s pinpointed, he’ll send his Metal Series to take them out.

“Why didn’t I try to clear my name? Because it’s a waste of time. Explaining myself to an organization that might have a spy inside benefits me nothing. Even if they fully trusted me, S-Class heroes aren’t controllable, so the association is unreliable as a pawn.”

CE asks, “Then why are you still helping them? Why keep providing tech?”

Bofoi answers, “Because if I didn’t, the association would’ve crumbled ages ago. They may be a bunch of incompetents, but their starting point was correct. With proper guidance, they still have value. If that means I get suspected, so be it. Ordinary minds take time to grasp a genius’s reasoning. Different CPU specs mean different processing speeds.”

He then adds, “Also, I’ve finished the AI we were co-developing back then.”

CE, shocked: “So you’ve really given up on being human?”

Bofoi: “No. I haven’t mechanized my brain. I’ve just made some progress. We misunderstood something all this time — human effort and experience are the true roots of creativity. The human brain holds limitless potential. The AI I’ve completed now is virtually indistinguishable from a human brain. It even struggles with its own thoughts. But those struggles… might lead to breakthroughs too.”

CE asks if he knows who the mastermind is.

Bofoi replies: “That man’s been eyeing my brain from the very start.”

The chapter cuts to a close-up of Genos

>>280522641

Absolute KINO

Thanks for the speedTL anon

I expect bofoi to die here as a point of no return for genos. But not before some encouraging last words to CE, isamu and bofoi deserves at least this much.

>>280522641
>The human brain holds limitless potential. The AI I’ve completed now is virtually indistinguishable from a human brain. It even struggles with its own thoughts. But those struggles… might lead to breakthroughs too.”
>The chapter cuts to a close-up of Genos
Genos is the completed AI huh

>>280522706
This asks real questions about what the motive of doctor bowlcut was?

…..i-is Dr Kusonoi “that man”? Not the Ninja Village leader, the person Bofoi mentions.

>>280522767
Putting false memories into Genos in order to have somebody to share his quest for revenge. Would explain even more his regret before he dies.

>>280522845
It's looking more and more like neither Genos nor Kuseno are who they seem

I'm too exited for the developments, don't want spoilers though.

>>280522641
Okay so there are three tech factions - Bofoi, Kuseno, and The Organization. None of them seem to be working together at this point, since Bofoi's tech was stolen and he's not responsible for the robots, Kuseno is apparently convinced Bofoi is evil, and the robots (the organization presumably) killed Kuseno.

So if the one stealing Bofoi's tech was the Org, then where does Kuseno fit into this? Faking his own death, or is he truly just unrelated? Could it be that he didn't make Genos, he already found him as a cyborg, and he was a prototype made by the Org?

>>280522641
So there's some actual plot amidst all that boring NEO heroes/cybersuits fuckery?

>>280523164
Retard.

>>280523191
Fuck you. I dropped the webcomic ages ago because this arc sucked. Should I pick it up?

>>280523199
>Should I pick it up?
Nah

>>280523164
>speed read/skim over the plot
>where is the plot?
hmmm

The nips on 2chan managed to extract all the schizo babbling said by Raiden

> Move! I can't move! This body—my body—why won't it move? Why? Why do I keep committing acts of violence? I don't understand. It's not like I did it myself.

>I don't want to move my hands anymore. I don't want to hear the sound of bones breaking. I don't want to hit anyone. I don't want to take lives! Please, just run away already—everyone, run!

>Even Kurobikari-san (Darkshine) won't get away unscathed. The super wrestlers have turned into monstrous beings because of the battle suits. No one can stop them anymore.

>Even my own consciousness is fading like a bubble. Is this really reality!? If it is, then it's a living nightmare. Someone, please, kill me now. Tie weights to me and throw me to the bottom of the ocean. Just kill me!!

>To hell with it all! Machines, battle suits—I never should have worn any of it. This noise... someone, what is—


>Why has no one come to help? What are they doing? Don't tell me... they’ve all been made to go berserk like me? Is that what this noise is? Is it controlling my nervous system? Is that why I can't resist, even with my strength!?

>One’s own body should be something they can control. If not, then maybe this isn't reality after all.

>Is this all a dream, then? Otherwise, I would never go on a rampage against humans.

>Which means... in this dream, I've become a monster? Am I being ○○? Is it ○?

>If someone is pulling the strings from behind the scenes... and if I can't ○○, it's because my body just won't obey. I can't run, I can't die. At this rate, it's impossible. It’s ○○. ○ is ○○.

>Hey! You—what the hell are you ○○!! AAAAAAAAH! Who do you think I am!? You think some lowly hero can stand in front of me, a Yokozuna among Super Wrestlers!? Do you want to die, ○○!! I'm starting to understand now...

>>280523199
No, we don't need more retards itt

Even if Bofoi isn't the mastermind, he could've done a better job of not getting his ass split in two.

>>280523199
Nah, keep reading the manga slop only you deserve it

>>280523459
I will and i will enjoy it bitchboy

>>280523468
>I will eat shit and i will enjoy it bitchboy
Uhh, ok

>>280523394
He seems to be genuinely autistic

>>280522144 (OP)
I'll be the one who asks. Why? Wouldn't that make him a killer and disqualified as a hero?

>>280523571
What? Do you even read this?

>>280522641
ONE is really genius. there are still several layers of twists even this deep into the global arc

>>280523015
AND still how/where does Drive Knight fits into this total shitshow???

Sad to know that the anime adaptation will only follow the manga. Maybe in the future someone will redraw the web novel to fix the art and avoid messing up the story

>>280523695
Machine God Zero, the first robot developed from "the organization" after stealing the blueprints from Metal Knight

>>280522144 (OP)
More like BTFOi

>>280523597
I admit I skipped few chapters. Isn't that Genos?

>>280523822
He only became a hero as a side to hunt down the Mad Cyborg

>>280523822
You skipped the last like 20 chapters and then want to be spoonfeed? Fucking seriously?

>>280523512
Autism is his superpower

>>280522641
So Genos is AI who think himself as Genos, while Kuseno is actual Genos

>>280522144 (OP)
We all know that's not his real body. Any good Hero/Villain Scientist worth their salt will have decoys or additional bodies.

>>280523867
That makes it worse. Isn't that him using something good for vengeance? I get some of the Heroes are corrupt and worse then the , monster they fight. But Genos is using the Hero title just like Bofoi.

>>280524034
See >>280523880

>>280524022
He is also autistically paranoid though, so he might've been too afraid to clone his own mind due to the risk of that kind of plan backfiring, like I am sure he doesn't want the possibility of another Bofoi to exist.

>>280524086
Eeeh. Considering his scientistic specialty is robotics, I'm just going to say they're decoys and not full on clones.
Also he for sure cyberized his brain. Or transferred his mind to a machine.

Who wouldve thought a cyborg named Genos caused a genoscide
Wow
But knowing ONE this isnt true and theres a twist to it

>>280524124
>Also he for sure cyberized his brain. Or transferred his mind to a machine
He literally states he didn't do anything like that lmao

>>280524139
Oh. Well that's lame. What's the hold up?

>>280522641
So Kuseno faked his death or his human self died and an AI version of him still exists somewhere (potentially as Genos).

>>280524155
He didn't do it because he didn't want to lose his humanity

>>280524207
Yeah that's fair.

>>280524155
Because in the end the breakthrough he had on the AI was making it more human with all its positives and negatives so it'd be redundant to swap from his already human mind to an AI that's just the same shit.

>>280524230
Man I need to catch up

Man a lot more happens after the Garou arc than I initially though

>>280524022
probably. in earlier chapters we saw this bofoi body got its neck and head snapped to full reverse and then threw it right back. hes probably too paranoid to ever greet CE, or anyone, "in person"

Rover is the goodest boy

How would you feel if Genos is this arc villain

>>280523278
very impressive

>>280523015
Kuseno hated Bofoi because Genos informed him that Bofoi made the Mad Cyborg (now likely false information from Drive Knight)I would say Kuseno is likely a rogue actor, probably a scientist that quit the organization making the Machine Gods and are behind the Neo Hero suits. I’d theorize he was allowed to defect because he’d keep innovating and they could just kill Kuseno later and take the research he’d have done.

So the shady as fuck Drive Knight was the real villain all along and framing Bofoi?

>>280524778
How would you have felt if yesterday evening if you hadn't eaten breakfast yesterday morning?

>>280522144 (OP)
Aaaah... s-save me...... i.... Isamu...
.....kun

It always seemed like Dr. Bofoi was too much as a red herring antagonist, ie, constantly pushing this shady, lack of trust aspect in the narrative. So then….why did Drive Knight tell Genos that Metal Knight was Genos’ enemy? Guys, I just had a brain wave — could Drive Knight be a Machine God, gathering data from the inside? His technology is far beyond what seems normal on OPM’s Earth science. Maybe he’s an executive of the Organization even? Don’t all the Machine Gods have a single eye?

The mad cyborg…

>joke page suddenly becomes insanely ominous
ONE-sama...

>>280524778
Depends on if he's redeemed or not

>>280524894
Hungary.

>>280524998
Machine God Zero

>>280525124
Czech yourself out the door.

Man, the 2chan OPM threads are fucking awesome. Extremely active, everybody fucking loves it, the moment somebody brings up Murata they're told to fuck off, theories posted by etc. 4chan is so dead and shit in comparison.

>>280522641
Oh no, Genos, DON"T!

>>280522641
Going super deep undercover is cool and all, but has fatal flaw thanks to Bofois paranoia. You should tell one valid person at least, or you might up end getting ass kicked by the good team, like right here >>280522144 (OP)

I wish she did this to me

>>280524778
At least he will have the final villain plot armor of being immune to jobbing to anyone but Saitama

>>280524894
Huh, but I had breakfast this morning.

>>280525308
wish i could nerd out in moonspeak too

translation when?

>>280525308
UPLIFT shill?

>>280525641
It's sixty pages this time, some of them with full walls of text.
Give them some time, anon.

It's insane how complex this arc is, it's actual peak. Usually when too many plotlines are being developed in a single arc it either turns into a shitshow or only a couple get satisfying developments and resolutions if you're lucky, but this one is fucking insane with how much shit is going on and how well they're all progressing and how many plottwist there are that not only make sense, but better explain story elements that I already thought were well explained. I'm genuinely so fucking excited to see what happens on every fucking front of this. The perfect story.
And to think I thought the Neo Heroes arc started off boring.

ONE I fucking KNEEL

>>280524998
Drive Knight is such a fucking sick design.

>>280525308
All of them can read the chapter immediately.

>>280522144 (OP)
Can't wait for murata to ruin this too

I need Fubuki ass

I need story by one

what are the odds of saitama gaining a personality?

>>280526288
Personality is for the weak, just like a poor man has to invent love to get by.

Maybe Murata was the villain we needed so ONE could give us all the kino we deserved

>>280525308
Link to thread?

>>280525071
>he had completely lost his mind... I guess his brain had been damaged during its transplantation into his cyborg body
It's pretty much guaranteed it was Kuseno that told him this right? It's crazy how even in this 15+ yo page he's clearly trying to prepare Genos for the eventual reveal of the true identity of the "mad cyborg"

>>280524998
I hope the mounting hints of Genos being the Mad Cyborg is also a red herring.

>>280526827
Same here.

>>280525444
Why is she doing this to her boyfriend?

>>280522144 (OP)
That fucking cliffhanger.
See you in a few months!

>>280526596
I dont get it whats the reveal?

>>280525308
The thread got to bump limit almost immediately even without a TL. That's rather impressive.

>>280527334
there are brain damaged people who think genos is the mad cyborg which makes absolutely 0 sense as genos was human when it happened

>>280527533
>genos was human
literally no prove genos used to be human except """backstory"""" and Kusonoi telling him that

>>280527334
>eventual
>>280527533
>there are brain damaged people who think genos is the mad cyborg
And I'm not one of them. What I meant to say is that this "mad cyborg", while still guilty, seems more like a victim of circumstances than an actual villain that needs to be killed.

>>280527533
>0 sense as genos was human when it happened
Nobody knows unless you trust Kuseno / Genos but what they say might not be the truth (I'm not saying they're lying on purpose).

Also Genos is a cyborg.
Genos is quite mad right now.
=>Genos is a mad cyborg.


At that point it's either him or Drive Knight.

>>280527711
Genos the
"THE SUFFERING / TORTURED / UNFORTUNATE / AMNESIAC / MAD AS FUCK" mad cyborg.

Also, anyone notice how much ONE seems to favor his muscle characters? Darkshine, Prisoner and Tank Top are constantly appearing.

>>280528021
We saw all S class already except Atomic Samurai.

>>280527533
>genos was a human
Literally no proof of this. Might just be fake memories made by Kuseno for all we know if Genos is an AI.

How do you predict the robot invasion will go in the Manga? Will Murata make it obvious?

Also I wonder if tearing off his tank top Hulk Hogan style is Master’s final last-stand technique? He’s afraid of trying it because he doesn’t know what will happen to himself so he’ll only consider it if the fate of the world is at stake.

>Webcomic is now much better than the manga
http://galaxyheavyblow.web.fc2.com/fc2-imageviewer/?aid=1&iid=157

>>280528409
one is something else these days

>>280528409
>now

>>280522641
All Murata has to do is copy this and then give additional Saitama+Tats lewd moments and he'd have pure kino.

Why can't Murata stop ruining shit with his gay OC slop story?

>>280528325
Robots will have tits.

>>280522641
My MISUNDERSTOOD hero
>>280523278
jesus christ, the poor guy

>>280528670
It would be great if Murata would just be ONE’s drawing slave. But that’s not how reality works. The reality is, the talented artist always gets to do what he wants because all that matters is art quality.

>>280528510
Yeah, the manga was never as good as the WC

>>280528561
keeek

>>280525071
It's always been ominous, anon. You did read the entire thing, did you?

>>280523199
no you should kill yourself

>>280526530
They have already had like 10 threads reaching the 1000 post bump limit but this is the current one
https://may.2chan.net/b/res/1335357872.htm

>>280528409
It's been kinda sad even the webcomic looks visually more interesting nowadays, it's like Murata can't create interesting setpieces

>>280528510
ONE’s panelling and framing is now much better than Murata’s
Before it was debatable

I'm surprised at how big this chapter was, Saitama going "super move serious series..." would've worked as a cliffhanger on its own

>>280528670
I think it's pretty clear that a couple of years ago back (we've been in the fucking redraw timeloop for ages lmao) ONE used to give Murata future spoilers, and probably said "Feel free to use some stuff but don't spoil it all" like the way we first saw Bofoi in the manga. But I think starting with Blast appearing ONE realized Murata couldn't help himself in putting things into the webcomic so he stopped sharing information so Murata just had to create filler himself to avoid catching up, the thing is Murata while being a big fan of ONE doesn't really get ONE so his filler ends up wrong.

Like unironically I fully believe the whole Blue's mother is a Ninja, is a thing from ONE (it explains why Blast would come after the Ninja's so pissed that Sonic thinks he killed all the others that Flash hadn't killed) that Murata wasn't supposed to spoil but he couldn't help himself.

>>280525722
>And to think I thought the Neo Heroes arc started off boring.
I thought the same. I frankly didn't give a shit about all those literally who's being introduced at the same time.

>>280524854
>>280523015
I agree with Anon, Kuseno is a rogue Organization member who is "good" but he doesn't really trust either side.

>>280528122
Atomic and King are training. Tatsumaki and Flash are on a goose chase. Zombieman is being abducted by a machine god. Pig god, TTM, Darkshine, PPP, Bang, and Watchdog Man are all fighting on the frontlines. Metal Bat is inside neo tower facing Destro and Elimin. Metal Knight, Child Emperor, and Genos are "together". Drive Knight was fighting alongside Neo before the suits took then over. Blast remains missing. Anyone else?

>>280524894
But I did masturbate today?

>>280529412
>all those literally who's being introduced at the same time
isn't that how we met most of the s-class

>>280528809
It would be perfect if Murata had his own manga which he could make in parallel with drawing OPM and sublimate all his dbs power fantasies into. Kinda like Azuma has his own manga and is also drawing Versus. The negative part would be a slow realease schedule (it's already slow as hell regardless) but that beats literal years wasted on shitty retcons

>>280522144 (OP)
He just got Yamcha’d

Genos my boy, you're screwed.

KWAB

>>280522144 (OP)
was the new chapter fully translated instead of the TL dump?

>>280528897
Yeah, the idea that some "Scientist of Justice" would just pick up a random 15-year old (who doesn't even seem to have been wounded) and subject him to a full-body cyborg transplant (that we later learned from Koko has immense risks attached) for the sake of revenge is insane.
Maybe if he had found Genos near-death and the surgery was to save his life, it would be more reasonable, but as it stands, Kuseno's actions were pretty fucked up even back then.

>>280530044
I feel bad for him. Super giant robots are cool but really don't mean shit if much smaller models can mount effective firepower. I'm kinda hoping that Murata makes the fight less one-sided but he'd probably go overboard and miss the point entirely.

>>280530767
>I'm kinda hoping that Murata makes the fight less one-sided
The whole point is that it's a complete stomp in the Metal Series' favor, any change to make it more balanced would be wrong because the narrative purpose here is to completely crush Isamu's childish naivety and help the readers feel bad for the poor kid who turned out to be completely out of his depth, just like Bofoi.
Stop thinking about cool setpieces and consider that fights are but one of many components in service to a greater purpose, especially given how much of this chapter was actual cool fight scenes since those actually had a purpose being like that. The context matters heavily.

>>280530767
I think he should take the giant robot from this chapter and shove it back into Phoenix Man fight

>>280531229
kek

>>280530767
I think the giant robot should be bigger and blast very upbeat J-Rock when doing its special attacks.

Materials and Power is what makes a robot machine. If you're getting beat, one of those needs to be upgraded.

CE working on the robot in an earlier chapter (post-Garou)

>>280531229
The Pheonixman fight had him use Brave Giant. This chapter featured Super Brave Giant.

>>280531324
>it's first anime OP but with lyrics crudely changed to be about Child Emperor and his giant

>60 Pages
2 year hiatus inc?

>>280529397
I might be going schizo, but I could have sworn there was a behind the scenes video if the manga made around the time right before the MA arc started proper in the manga (I remember the threads still had hope) where a manuscript of Garou versus the A-C class heroes was shown and it was clearly One’s scribbles.

>>280529586
Yeah, but the context made it exciting.

Kuseno is the evil bastard.
Bofoi is a pure and innocent boy who couldn't handle the evil of the world but didn't turn evil himself which is why he's being paired with child emperor but CE might fall into the dark side that is the organization, willingly or not.
The wild card will be the house of evolution which would have been a new powerhouse if not destroyed.
Genos is also evil but has a switch, he doesn't know he is the mad cyborg.

>>280530044
Give him a break, he's like 10 and high as balls.

>>280528021
The bodybuilders in Mob Psycho 100 were some of the best characters too.

WHERE IS TRANSLATE ??

I AM BECOME MAD WAITING AAAAAAAA I'M GONNA RAMPAGE

>>280533378
People are kinda stupid about this stuff because they hate the tournament arc for delaying the MA raid. The tournament arc came straight from ONE, if you've read enough of the webcomic and Mob you should be able to recognise his writing and scene construction. ONE was still coming up with new stuff going into the MA raid itself because there are elements that Murata simply wouldn't write, like scenes that give the spotlight to low rank heroes that aren't beautiful women, or the ice cold ultraviolence of Sweet Mask slaughtering the narinki squad and killing off a sexy character.

>>280533841
Bofoi is your enemy....he delayed the translation

>>280533854
Sweet Mask killing humans was 100 % Murata which is why he went back and redrew all that.

Everything from Phoenix Man onwards is clearly not ONE's writing.

THE GOAT!

So is Genos an actual child survivor of the mad cyborg's rampage, a puppet of The Organization, or the secret almost human finished AI Bofoi made?

>>280533942
That's technically true because he turned several pages into walls of text.

>>280533854
While I agree pre MA additions were clearly One’s doing, it really feels like he stopped being involved halfway through the MA arc itself. Just comparing the first version of the Saitama vs Orochi fight to the redraw and it’s like two different writers took a crack at the same scene.

>>280534225
>Just comparing the first version of the Saitama vs Orochi fight to the redraw and it’s like two different writers took a crack at the same scene.
You see, the first version had too much TERROR and not enough COMEDY. It had to go.

>>280534225
I'm wondering if moth Psykos was still based on something ONE drafted, or it he was completely gone by that point. I don't remember when Murata went back to retcon Saitama's encounter with Orochi, was it before or after the moth?

>>280533943
>Phoenix Man
He was already set up as more prominent character than his webcomic counterpart, and the fight is the first time we're seeing Child Emperor use his big boy weapons which is a level of characterisation ONE wouldn't leave to Murata.

>>280524894
I'm sick and tired of this meme. Many criminals are victim of an unfair justice system that wrongfully discriminates and imprison hardworking and honest people who contribute greatly to society. Even though some criminals reflect the stereotype, not all of us are that simpleminded.

Release the translation!

>>280535256
No one's gonna translate 60 pages in a fucking day

>>280535256
So can you typset and redraw?

>>280535028
Shut up Pri-Pri-Prisoner. You're a faggot, a rapist, a fagrapist. You think it's ok to rape people who aren't criminals? It's not. Stay in your shitty prison and hands off the children.

>Fuzzy logic is based on the observation that people make decisions based on imprecise and non-numerical information. Fuzzy models or fuzzy sets are mathematical means of representing vagueness and imprecise information (hence the term fuzzy). These models have the capability of recognising, representing, manipulating, interpreting, and using data and information that are vague and lack certainty.
>Fuzzy logic has been applied to many fields, from control theory to artificial intelligence.

>>280535292
>>280535320
Wildfang would have already translated everything.

>>280535427
My ricecooker has uses fuzzy logic for optimal rice btw

>>280522641
>Bofoi replies: “That man’s been eyeing my brain from the very start.”

>>280529397
>Like unironically I fully believe the whole Blue's mother is a Ninja, is a thing from ONE (it explains why Blast would come after the Ninja's so pissed that Sonic thinks he killed all the others that Flash hadn't killed) that Murata wasn't supposed to spoil but he couldn't help himself.
The whole Blast manga shit was a mistake

>>280522144 (OP)
I can't wait for Murata's take on this!

>>280536591
You don't need to wait

>>280536530
The whole point of Blast is to be an enigma. Murata just took a giant brown log of shit all over his character.

>>280536591
See you back here in 2045

>>280528409
I'd say the manga was an improvement until the end of the invasion arc, but after that it became too much of its own thing and ONE steadily improved. Pretty much the manga garou vs saitama graph

for a moment I was going to ask what saitama's hero name would be when he inevitably gets a new hero name
then I realized I was retarded

>>280533841
I remember when we used to have a resident translator for webcomic updates.
Now we have to rely on reddit.

>>280537013
Right, it's obvious it's going to be Bald Cape

I love how Murata couldn’t wait with Ryumon’s introduction and immediately makes him a villain.

>>280530044
>See that, Child Emperor? Your giant robot is blowing up. A fitting end for a machine built to fail.

>>280522641
So this is all caused by supreme autism?

>>280537013
The final gag will be him refusing to change his name One-punch Man, isn't that kind of lame?

>>280523459
I don’t know why you’re getting so uppity when the shit you’re reading is garbage

>>280527533
fake memories

>>280524778
His modification power ups are done with now

What saved the hype?

>>280538227
The webcomic has always been hype.

>Tatsumaki
French
>Kamikaze
Japanese
>Bofoi
Jew
>Flashy Flash
Japanese
>Genos
German
>Puri Puri Prisoner
Hispanic
>Saitama
Japanese
>Suiko
Okinawa
>Suiryu
Okinawa
>Bang
Chinese
>Bomb
Chinese
>Garou
German
>Amai Mask
Korean
>Blue
Japanese
>Isamu
Japanese
>Bad
Japanese
>Raiden
Japanese
>Ryumon
Italian
>Webigaza
Japanese
>Superalloy
Japanese
>King
English

Webcomic dump when?

>>280538593
Already happened last thread
>>280509862

>>280538489
>Ryumon
>Italian
He's clearly Yakuza and therefore Japanese.

>>280538489
They're all japanese, retard

>>280538489
>>280538693
Retards

>>280533943
>redrew all that.
was the redraw cycle ever finalized? or is it basically continuous process now, where the mag chapters are pretty much different story from the volume releases.
from phoenix man onward, we basically have three versions of the OPM

Is the story time over? I missed it the last couple days

>>280523490
>>280537991
See you next manga thread.

>>280538746
Still going, I think it's like 3-4 dumps? OP wanted to finish it on the new chapter.

>>280533993
Yes.

>>280538746
3 more dumps to go, one should be starting soon.

>>280537621
I mean he yearns for proper recognition, but very much dislikes his ordeal

>>280538489
>Genos
>German
Is that because he has no sense of humor?

>>280538489
Pig God? American.

>>280536591
You mean One’s rewrite because the manga is its own continuity

>>280538489
According to Murata Genos is German, Choze is Russian, Suiryu is Italian, Amai Mask is Korean, and the psychic sisters are French. On a separate occasion he mentioned that king is even more western than Genos. He also said that he based Captain Mizuki's design on caucasian Australian athlete Michelle Jenneke.

>>280538847
Because his name is literally short for Genocide.

>>280538744
Volume releases contain redrawn chapters only. The original chapters are not canon.

The redraws that began with Amai Mask never truly ended. Every time he redrew a chapter he added new inconsistencies so he had to redraw more and more chapters. He should realistically still redraw a lot of chapters from the MA arc, but they contain minor inconsistencies only.

There's no inconsistency. The original versions are pruned timelines of the GOD Redraws.

>>280522641
>Bofoi: “No. I haven’t mechanized my brain. I’ve just made some progress. We misunderstood something all this time — human effort and experience are the true roots of creativity. The human brain holds limitless potential. The AI I’ve completed now is virtually indistinguishable from a human brain. It even struggles with its own thoughts. But those struggles… might lead to breakthroughs too.”
Absolutely fucking based humanity believer.

>>280538489
>>280538902
Also, that's just what their ethnecities are closest to in the real-world equivalent, not that it's exactly the same.
At the time Murata was working more closely with ONE and he didn't normally make statements about things without consulting ONE so there's a very high chance that ONE told him this.

What’s the consensus of the Drive Knight vs Nyan fight? Here’s a great fan animation of it I found: https://youtu.be/704Or9GvgZk
Was it a Murata original or one of those things ONE suggested?

If One put more effort into his art, got either his eyes or hand fixed to make his lines stable and went for a more refined style and finally used 3d models for intense anatomy angles and poses he would be better then current Murata by far.

>>280539354
Drive who against who? I barely remember that guy on the webcomic

>>280539527
He's too busy writing multiple successful stories and having a family to practice drawing, we are lucky we even get webcomic updates.

>>280523164
If you had been paying attention from the start, yes, there has been

>>280521071
>Murata turned that man into his OC, so if anyone uses that man's character, it's Murata's writing.
No, that's not Murata's writing, Murata would have turned that man into a good guy and made everything bad that he did be due to being controlled by God.

>>280529267
His paneling has always been superior

>>280539527
He already is better

>>280540103
Not him, but do you have any evidence?

>>280540199
If you really want specifics I can post some later but essentially everything MA onwards is more obviously better, and before that it was more subtly better

Ok, so I think this whole situation started way back 20 years ago when Blast was working with his other best friend Mr. Roboto, but god got to him and absorbed Mr. Roboto into the internet, turning him into the greatest virus ever, so since then Mr. Roboto has been slowly infecting all machines in the world with God's power and the plot is heading towards a singularity where all the robots are combined into a vessel worthy of God's decent.

>>280528409
I couldn't read a word of that but it's already peak fucking kino

>>280536466
"That man" is just an incredibly vague way to refer to any male character, Bofoi isn't talking about the ninja.

>>280525308
Something about that is pretty heartwarming. I'm glad we aren't just some niche colony overseas that appreciates his work and that he has a lot of fans over there too. Just wish I spoke moonrunes so I could participate there, though admittedly it's probably a lot of the same discussion as here.

>>280539354
From a story perspective, entirely unnecessary. Nyan serves no purpose as a character and Drive Knight didn't need to be in the arc to begin with so it's just powerwank

>>280540277
>If you really want specifics I can post some later
I want. I admit I'm not the best judge of such things, but if you post pages comparing the specifics I'd understand.
>essentially everything MA onwards is more obviously better, and before that it was more subtly better
I mean the paneling of the manga when it was at its peak compared to the paneling of the webcomic when it was at its worst.

>>280540373
Yeah, you're probably right, the possibility just crossed my mind.

>>280540505
>I mean the paneling of the manga when it was at its peak compared to the paneling of the webcomic when it was at its worst.
That isn't really a fair comparison, is it? ONE has always been praised for his panelling, and I don't mean among the retards here. It's one of the reason he's so respected as a mangaka among his peers despite his technical skills being lacking. A lot of veterans in the manga industry value panelling skills above all else, Torishima (famously grouchy and critical editor for DBZ) just recently talked about modern shonen sucking largely because of newer mangaka prioritising flashy drawings over good and readable panelling.

>>280539354
I didn't care much about it, but it's cooler than the zoo fight and served mostly the same purpose.

>>280540653
I feel there may be some misunderstanding in what I meant.
I mean in terms of the timeline.
Not to take the best panelling Murata ever did and compare it to the worst panelling ONE ever did. I mean to compare the period of time when Murata's panelling was at its best in the manga compared to the period of time when ONE's panelling was at its worst in the webcomic (which was obviously still great).

>>280540016
Isn't that literally the second redraw of the ninja arc? Or are you just being cheeky.

>>280523278
That's only the first pageful. Did they post the rest?

>>280540886
The ninja was secretly plotting against god with the power of darkness in the second redraw. He was just a greedy guy at the same time, but he still cared while being tsundere about it.

>>280540886
>>280540935
Actually it's the first redraw, there have been two redraws since the first version is not a redraw.

I think this is gonna be a 2 act arc, the organization being the first. After this we'll find out the organization is trying to defeat God which is hosted by humanities combined beliefs in someone to save them and that formed God who is also the reason for monsters existing in the first place.

>>280540771
storytime

>>280539354
I’m starting to think people just enjoy being miserable and hate anything remotely fun. Murata can’t win with these cats

>>280539354
>>280541238
Not any of you.
Yeah, there are definitely some noisy neckbeards like that around here. I enjoyed the fight.

MY CURRENT SCHIZO THEORY:
Bofoi and Kuseno are both innocent, Drive Knight is Machine God 0 who successfully manipulated the two genius scientists who didn't want to give up on their humanity against each other, convincing each the other one was the bad guy. Genos IS the mad cyborg who went on a rampage, but he's the incomplete AI stolen from Bofoi by the organization and after his rampage, Kuseno found him without purpose and broken, decided to save the remains of its fragile AI psyche with a fake backstory and renamed it Genos, then gave him purpose in the hopes of stopping him from going mad again.
While Genos is the mad cyborg, he's not beyond redemption, Kuseno was on the right track but Saitama's illogical, insurmountable power is what reigned Genos in and kept him from rampaging again. It's like crack to his AI mind trying to comprehend this being beyond logic and reason. Now with Saitama gone, Genos has become the mad cyborg again.
And the organization led by Drive Knight will have successfully eliminated its chief competitors and stolen their tech while simultaneously crippling the Hero Association and replacing it with the Neo Heroes completely under its own control. With the ultimate goal of fully mechanizing humanity, if not all life on earth.

>>280538489
>>280538902
He should make PPP Russian for extra keks.

>>280537621
>One-punch Man, isn't that kind of lame?
That's the localised English series title. The original Japanese writes it as One Punch-Man. Completely reverses the meaning: Just a singular man who punches. yes I'm joking I know that's not what they meant.

>>280540987
NEEEEEEERD

>>280541656
I thought it was a pun of Anpanman

Everyone's talking nonstop about their personal schizo theory about the mad cyborg. Meanwhile I'm calling that Saitama will finish saving Hero HQ only to plant himself in front of their leadership and start protesting for the rights of hero name victims.

>But shouldn't he rush to Geno-
Duty comes first.

>>280541714
It is. ONE even designed the costume with him in mind.

>>280539354
The fight is great.
>Was it a Murata original or one of those things ONE suggested?
It's very likely that it came from ONE considering the knowledge of Drive Knight's forms that was shown in the fight.

>>280541714
ONE only uses katakana, but the manga's logo is this in Japan. In the west, the hyphen was moved to between "one-punch" instead.

>>280541656
It's "ONE's Punch Man".
That's why Saitama rarely oneshots people, he isn't actually supposed to win with a single punch.
And this is why after his association finally gets names they want, his will simply be Punch Man.

Source: this post.
Verification? Not required.

>>280540653
>Torishima (famously grouchy and critical editor for DBZ) just recently talked about modern shonen sucking largely because of newer mangaka prioritising flashy drawings over good and readable panelling.
source?

>>280542007
I'm not 100% certain on the exact source, but I believe he said it during a Q&A at a convention in France last week.

ONE has a real talent for cramming shit into his stories and then making it all work.
Its also so crazy that he hasnt missed yet with any of his series.

>>280542188
>If you don't hire people with broader tastes, the creative world keeps shrinking
I'm glad people like him say this. I feel this problem is happening with every single medium lately, it's very worrying.

>>280541378
They're even retarded enough to criticize Murata’s art while praising One’s abominable scribbles but at this point I’m just waiting for the new fights to be adapted and for the anime to have some decently animated scenes

>>280542247
He's a student of Togashi, you can see it in his writing style.

>>280540653
Makes sense. DB had amazing paneling and choreography alongside its art. The action was always easy to follow and pages rarely had excessive detail.

>>280542247
Don't jinx it.

>>280523278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8bTdBs-cw

>>280539527
He does it as a hobby

>>280523774
>Machine God Zero
That's Gen0s

>>280522144 (OP)
Did he die?

>>280528409
>>280528501
>>280529121
One was always good at drawing, he just makes it look like doodles sarcastically. There is a reason why people thought he was Togashi

>>280547754
Nah, he has improved a lot but he doesn't try as hard because he doesn't have to since the webcomic is just a hobby.
If he were to do a serialization like with Mob again, I guarantee you he would blow your mind and Murata would kill himself.

>>280547754
That's a huge cope.

>>280541714
Who is that?

>>280537615
Did you doubt?

Leddit translation is out, if some has a pass dump it
https://cubari.moe/read/gist/Z2lzdC9mdW5reWhpcHBvLzcxMjRhZjUyMWExMDU5NDVhNGRmNmEzMzFjOWZjZTU5L3Jhdy9vcG0td2MuanNvbg/155/1/

>>280523652
By this point the theme of the story is very clear: it's all about extrapolating a world built on world saving heroics everyday, digging into the kind of people that can and want to do that, then pulling back to once again reinforce that it's a world of HEROICS and many of these characters are ultimately driven by that innate heroism. We've seen this again and again and again since Garou. Sweet Mask, Ryumon, Webigaza, even Darkshine as he jumps back into battle. Now Bofoi. We keep seeing heroes who have darker or less heroic sides, and then we keep seeing them pushed to the limit or be super suspicious. Only to finally come to the conclusion that "no, they're actually super heroes."

The genius is in being able to keep your attention and keep it distract before the reveal. To set it all up one way, then have the reveal reorient all of it another.

Black sperm...

Also, we did not see the battle genos had at the second lab. What are the chances genos already know bofoi is an ally and this fatal injury was planned to reveal the actual enemy? Bofoi was willing to die to save humanity.

>>280551825
I'd say 0%, there's no evidence that Genos is in a rational state of mind right now, and for him to actually be playing 4d chess all along would contradict all the story setup so far.

I’ve been reading the Versus series recently and it’s fucking kino. It made me shocked I didn’t hear about it sooner. Idk how people can see Versus, OPM webcomic, and Bug ego, which are all great ongoing series and think One has anything to do with the shit show that is OPM manga at this point.

>>280551661
Storytime will reach that chapter the day after tomorrow so it'll be easier to wait until then

Side note, is Machine God Dress' design a reference to that guy in the god hand from Berserk?

>>280533378
ONE draws story boards but it's clear from redraws that ONE wouldn't have made all the stuff in the webcomic. The sweetmask is just fundamentally inconsistent with the webcomic, chances are ONE said "Yeah sweet mask fucks them up for being weak" not realizing Murata would interpret that as being "Kills them"

>>280552062
We storytimed every single chapter since its debut and occasionally reached post limit. Guess you missed all of them.

I wanna hear your guys opinion on this so I made a public tier list. This is my opinon and it's just ranked by bar not position in said bar.
I added a few cool manga original characters I liked and One created for Murata. Also I used the manga images for most characters since the Wikis WC section has dogshit profile pics.

>>280541801
Please let this happen, this would be hilarious. On another note, I don't think we've seen the other HNVA members recently and I'm concerned.

>>280524998
>metal knight's robots are modeled after chess pieces
>drive knight's modes are also modeled chess pieces with a few outliers, as well as lacking a king/queen
>machine gods are incomplete imitations using stolen data
Drive knight is the incomplete AI

>>280533854
I don't know, tournament arc just felt like a rehash of sea king to me. Gives me the impression that ONE just made some characters for Murata, and Murata had to go back and copy a previous story to make it look like OPM.

>>280552875
Don't worry, these piles of walking scrap aren't strong enought to even bend one of of Dr. Grumpy Pervert's scalpels. They're fine.

>>280552933
Bofoi is western chess pieces

Zero is shogi pieces

My prediction:
>Saitama punches all the robots
>King crawls out of the rubble
>Someone sees King and assumes he's the one who destroyed all the robots
>Caped Baldy gets no credit

>>280552875
They were shown defending the association in the last chapter but they weren’t shown with the rest of the other beaten (and some dismembered) heroes this chapter.

>>280552875
We saw them gearing up to help fight the robots alongside the A-class heroes in chapter 154, but we didn't see them anywhere on the ground this chapter. They actually might show up jobbing to the super strong guy Black Sperm warned Saitama about next chapter.

I'm having trouble finding this specific chapter where Bafoi refused CE's request for aid during Monster Association arc or something. Just wondering what's up with that if he cares
about Hero Association.

>>280551825
Why do you think he didn't get to the right lab on his second try?

>>280553194
That was child emperor leaving a voicemail.

>>280552997
You mean King valiantly defeats the robot army and Caped Baldy tries to steal the credit yet again?

>>280522144 (OP)
F

>>280522144 (OP)
uuuuh
why did Genos outright kill Bofoi?
he saw machines that killed his doctor, didn't he want to know WHY?

>>280526827
>the mounting hints of Genos being the Mad Cyborg
retard here. what are they?

>>280551661
kek, Metal Knight bullying CE so hard that in the end he felt sorry for him

when did Saitama did the spinning serious move?

>>280531512
kino

>>280553797
That one and the whack a mole are new.

>>280541467
>Bofoi and Kuseno are both innocent, Drive Knight is Machine God 0 who successfully manipulated the two genius scientists who didn't want to give up on their humanity against each other, convincing each the other one was the bad guy. Genos IS the mad cyborg who went on a rampage, but he's the incomplete AI stolen from Bofoi by the organization and after his rampage, Kuseno found him without purpose and broken, decided to save the remains of its fragile AI psyche with a fake backstory and renamed it Genos, then gave him purpose in the hopes of stopping him from going mad again.
>While Genos is the mad cyborg, he's not beyond redemption
i thought of this too. not schizo enough.
try again.

>>280554037
>whack a mole
i think i remember this but not where. i'll look it up.

>>280554082
Maybe Hammerhead? It also sounded familiar to me as well.

>>280551661
God I love that Tanktop and Sweetmask interaction

>>280553797
Prior to this, I think the only ones we've seen are iirc
>Serious Punch vs Boros
>Serious Sidehops vs Sonic
>Serious Table Flip vs Garou
>Serious Headbutt vs Garou (maybe?)
The spin and whack-a-mole are new.

>>280554202
Fucking loved it too.
>Can't blame anyone for calling us "utterly hopeless incompetents."
>...Right? Sweet Mask?
>There was a monster that actually said something so cruel, Tanktop Master?
>Yeah... though it seems that's changed now.
"Sweet Mask learned word choice" indeed.

>>280528809
ONE's art is more fitting and expressive for what's happening than Murata's

I honestly don't get the appeal at all other than some dudes like to jerk off to anime

>>280554082
>>280554140
Saitama did whack a mole at the hero tryouts so maybe you’re thinking of that.

>>280552626
oh boy... here comes my powerscaling autism.

I'm pretty sure Awakened Garou could mop the floor with Tatsumaki any day of the week. What other character showed such feats against Saitama? Only Boros comes close to Garou imo.
Marugori being that high on this list is a bit outrageous. He is definitely powerful but not stronger than Golden Sperm.
Melzargard is also too high. The top tier fighters of the s-class(serious Bang, Flash, Darkshine) should be able to solo this guy.
Metal Knight should be higher. It was stated that he was one of the few heroes that could defeat Elder Centipide on his own, along with Tatsumaki, Blast, and King. Psykos mocked Tatsumaki for not bringing Blast and Metal Knight to the assault at the MA, describing her situation as playing a chess game without a rook or bishop. He is the top 3 in the s-class.
Destro and Erimin haven't shown to be THAT strong at least for now.
Rover should be way higher. This doggo didn't take any damage when fighting Bang and Bomb.
Flash should be way, way higher. He is the strongest s-class fighter in the manga and webcomic... besides Blast. He had the best performance against Garou in the webcomic and was able to keep up with Platinum Sperm in the manga, without even using his sword or his "forbidden techniques" in these two fights. Current Flash is even stronger now that he has the secret scrolls from "That Man".
Bakuzan and Heavy Smoker were confirmed to be dragons and therefore should be higher on the list.

I could keep going but that's enough for now.

>>280554355
Also did it against Garou when he destroyed his head "armor"

>>280552626
>>280554403
Fuck off

>>280541467
Here's mine: Everything is as it seems at first glance. Drive Knight is Bofoi's AI, and is actually completely on the level. His suspicion of Bofoi is the same as CE's - he's got good reason to be suspicious of Bofoi but it's ultimately unfounded, and it only exists because Bofoi refuses to fucking talk to people, even if it's his own "son." He's a genuine hero.
Genos is the mad cyborg, but his backstory isn't quite a lie - he was kidnapped by the Organization as a kid and was forced to kill his own family. Kuseno was the one who stopped him, but didn't have the heart to tell him the truth about what happened and instead decided to focus Genos on revenge to distract him from realizing what he'd done.

>>280551661
God fucking damn what an amazing chapter.

>>280554411
That wasn’t a serious named move was it? Just a regular attack?

the genos backstory was always weird if it actually happened it would have had at least one flashback i knew something was up

>>280539527
You are a fool to think stable lines are necessary. You are also a fool to think intense anatomy requires realistic proportions and consistency. You do not understand art.

>>280554485
That’s a really good point. Unless One wanted to save it for when he confronted as an anticipated reveal. Makes me wonder if he had this idea for Genos’ backstory since he was introduced. In general how much of this story did he have planned?

>>280552062
>Versus series recently and it’s fucking kino
>le human bad and super

>>280554440
Even ONE himself is a powerscalingfag so what gives?

>>280522641
Based AG Bofoi! I have to wonder if ONE decided on this scene years ago or if he incorporated this because of the AI boom.

Who else knew 99% that Metal Knight wasn’t evil simply because the narrative focused on it so much and that’s just not how ONE rolls? Like when in Bug Ego that muscle head delinquent shows up, I knew the moment he was introduced that ONE would make him a good guy. ONE tried to bait it out until the end and I even thought at one point “wow maybe not” only for the face turn to happen as originally anticipated. ONE will always be true to his habits.

>>280522144 (OP)
What did Gene do?

Then how would murata retcon this? Genos now is double core from that time travel garou shit.

>>280553220
Maybe he thinks that because we saw him destroying the first lab and entering the second.

>>280552933
>chess pieces with a few outliers
How can you browse this board and not know about shogi?

>>280554229
You're forgetting serious water gun, serious sneeze, serious fart, serious sandwich eating and serious time traveling.

>>280554819
Literally who cares

>>280554819
Triple or quadruple core.

i'm just glad suiko is fine

>>280554983
She better put out

Translation is up on mangakakalot.

>>280554501
>>280539527
I want to add to my own post and clarify - the most vital things for the successful execution of sequential art are
1. Consistency
2. Intentionality
3. Communication of message through style

Tools like 3D models and digital brushes etc can definitely help you achieve number one and sometimes help you achieve number two if you lack the skill to make your pen go where you want it to, but they can do so at the cost of two and three in a deeper, more artistic way. Having your characters look wonky and deformed in a way that connects your message can be vital, and getting your models and tools set up to convey the emotions inside your brain can be nearly impossible. You end up spending more time fiddling with your set up than you do producing art, and you stop progressing towards anything but procedural mastery. I ran into this many times as an architecture student. I'd build my model, mess with the camera and the textures for days, and end up producing renderings that were technically good but communicated nothing of the human experience my building was designed to deliver. I'd end up sitting down with tracing paper, markers, pens, rulers, and water colors, and busting out something in a quarter of the time that actually made the critics feel something. Was the perspective perfect? Were the lines clean and precise? Would a real estate ad campaign in a magazine targeted at investors use it? Hell no. But people in the community the project was meant for understood what I was saying, what it would mean to be in the space I had dreamed up. This is the difference between Murata and ONE's art, except ONE is actually getting good and I never did

>>280554771
Bofoi is always written as a red herring and I seriously cannot comprehend how people took the bait. It's easy to empathise with him once you consider that he already had a data breach and the hero association is filled with opportunistic rats like Mccoy and actual hostile assets like Genos and Zero.
I am of the same opinion on Kuseno since people think he is the evil mastermind. Admittedly he could've done bad things when he is still revengeful. I am inclined to believe he was well-intentioned by the story's time and he is definitively dead.

>>280554333
speaking of art, I always appreciate how ONE draws expressions. HIs characters have quite unique and vibrant expression sets and he doesn't shy away from drawing hideous but fitting faces for otherwise appealing characters. ONE does have the same-face problem ever since his arts become more polished mob-style but you can still tell characters apart by their default expressions and minor details.
And now comes the Murata rant. I despise him for giving le wholesome face to everyone and their mother. I abhor him for drawing more generic shounen and chibi expressions which ONE never does. His characters have lost their unique facial features and become softer compared to how they were drawn pre-MA. He can never draw the psychic sisters at each other's throat, nor Isamu's entire mindbreak sequence, nor picrel.
Funnily enough, Bofoi has been emotionless this whole time which fits his character. But no doubt he will get fucked up. Manga Isamu's character is barely salvageable as is.

>>280555642
> picrel

>>280542650
I mean, even for his garbage art he conveys way more than the "better" drawn soulless stuff but eh, to each of their own
>the anime to have some decently animated scenes
kek

>>280542188
Yeah the guy even shittalked Toyotaro cuz his choreography was fucking ass lol

So, the biggest question on everyone's mind right now. Next chapter when?

>>280540199
If it's the same guy that posts words words words to look like he knows what his talking about then you don't want his evidence because his a fucking retard and it's a waste of time. You should have seen the shit he posted for the Garou punch against Ripper

>>280555938
When Murata fuck things up in the manga again

Serious question about translations. Is “Void Fist” a good translation of 冥躰拳 (Meiteiken) when a direct translation says “Dark Body Fist”? Also, is there a rhyme / wordplay with “drunk” (Meitei)? “Void” I think should be from 無 (mu).

>>280555414
>seriously cannot comprehend how people took the bait
ONE did a good good making him progressively more suspicious and he was just too autistic during his fight with CE.
>I am of the same opinion on Kuseno
He's 100% suspicious right now with all the coincidences and his name being literally "suspicious". ONE would have to pull the same trick twice if he actually was a good guy, also Kuseno being a bad guy would be more dramatic. But then again we have the thing with the Gameboy to his favor.

>>280556056
Nigger fist sounds cool

Im gonna say things went like this
>Kuseno scanned saitama body data
>Created a new body using that and uploaded his brain to it
>Got killed to erase suspicions
>Now he is the super strong robot attacking the Hero hq

>>280551661
>You fucking retard Isamu the giant robot is supposed to appear right after you call him
My hero...

>DS almost calls PPP a hero but caught himself on time
>Went from "Don't die." to "Just sleep already."
Lmao.

>>280523880
please?

>>280551661
I fucking love this page
Bofoi is actually goated what the fuck

good morning i am a tourist
is it true murata effectively turned the manga into shitty fanfiction

>>280556907
fuck off tourist
also yes

>>280556907
>good morning i am a tourist
How stupid do you think we are?

>>280556953
alright farewell

>>280556873
Bofoi, and pro heroes in general, are fundamentally heroic and just put various spins on the execution. People usually suck at writing genius type characters but ONE actually delivered on both Bofoi and Isamu which is quite a feat. Their dialogues are my favourite parts coming out of recent chapters.

>>280552062
Versus is a shittier Tenkaichi plus ones character designs doesn't work well with an artist as detailed as azuma it's uncanny valley and not in a good way

I didn't realize I had missed quite a few chapters, it was a real pleasure to seeing the arc start to pay off. I personally feel that the arc suffered from the tension ramping taking slightly too long, but it's incredible how skilled ONE is in building characterization and creating weight and dread. I hope he can stay productive and start to focus a little more on the webcomic, it's one of the shining lights in the dark morass of manga.

>>280526126
His first version of the Garou fight was fine and encompassed the spirit of the Web Comic.
The publisher and and director are the ones not understanding the spirit of the story and wanted some rule of cool fight shit that they could use for the anime and made him redraw everything.

They did not understand that the Boros fight was not rule of cool, you could see that Saitama never went all out in it.
He did prolong the fight unnecessarily because he felt sentiment with Boros suffering.
But the publisher and director Do not understand this.

The animators of the first season did read the Manga and understood it and loved it, which is why they did such phenomenal work.

>>280557035
>The publisher and and director

source on that, uncle?

Bofoi praising the creative power of the human brain above AI wasn't on my bingo card this year

>>280556873
>There is nothing more valuable than time
This made me sad actually

>>280551661
>darkshine saying "if i overlook a few things, you're truly a hero i can respect" to prisoner
fucking hell, that's just funny to me. "i really respect you, aside from the occasional raping"

>>280557013
>Versus
>shittier Tenkaichi
Nigger-posting

>>280557188
Tenkaichi is obviously a passion project what do you think he puts more effort into?

>>280557035
>publisher
Lmao, they have no fucking power. Murata can literally throw away 2 years of progress into the bin. 2 years of new volume sales erased. It's fucking retarded to blame them when Murata has this kind of freedom.

The first version was garbage as well for that matter. The MA arc was ruined long before that.

It's all Murata's fault.

>>280557166
I appreciate ONE being savvy with current developments. Giving the same prompt for a commission to 100 artists versus 100 GenAI models and the former will for sure have much more individuality.
I wonder if anyone tried using AI to recreate ONE's style lmao.

>>280524409
When did this happen? Was it in the wc?

>Black Sperm says there's a really strong robot among the fodder
Mecha Boros soon

>>280557240
>2 years of new volume sales erased.

lmao what, do you think they go and refund everyone who bought it? what the fuck are you even talking about

>all of the S class are REAL FUARKING HEROES
Neokeks...

>>280557314
Are you retarded? You realize rewrites means that they can't release new volumes right? They have to wait for the "complete" version to be finished for that. Less frequent volume release means far less money for them, which is the last thing they want. Saying they are willing to throw away two years of extra volumes to sell so they can make it cooler for the anime (which is literally just there as a commercial to sell more volumes) it's utterly fucking retarded and the direct opposite of what one would want to do if they wanted to earn money. If the publisher actually had any real power they wouldn't allow Murata to do any redraws at all as that means they can release new volumes more frequently and earn more from the franchise.

Genosbros....is this the price we have to pay to stop jobbing?

>>280557360
>If the publisher actually had any real power they wouldn't allow Murata to do any redraws at all as that means they can release new volumes more frequently and earn more from the franchise.

You really are stupid. There is a limited amount of content that can be published. The manga cannot be progressed past where the webcomic is. Publishing more frequently will not net them more money, it just means they will run out of content to release sooner. If anything, they WANT redraws because it inevitably means that Murata will add more padding and gives them more content to release. Actually, this perfectly explains why the manga is more bloated than the webcomic - because it makes more money for the publisher. You dipshit.

Why did he do it?

>>280557384
>stops jobbing when being manipulated by evil forces
Oh no no no

>>280557437
Again, you are fucking retarded. They publisher wouldn't give a shit about that. They wouldn't fucking tank the sales and let Murata do a bazillion rewrites for that. They would just demand that they draw either more filler or to write past the webcomic if they had any actual power to make demands. All they care for is earning as much from the franchise as possible, which means being able to sell as many volumes as possible as frequantly as possible.

There's a reason why this shit is unheard of in other manga, because other manga doesn't have the freedom from publishers and editors OPM has.

>>280557035
>His first version of the Garou fight was fine and encompassed the spirit of the Web Comic.
No it didn't, I fucking hate this revisionist history.
You retards post pic related and go "look what they took away from you..." without acknowledging that it was already all unsalvageable garbage up until this moment.
The retcon didn't change anything, the fight before this moment was already a shitshow of the highest degree, that completely ruined Garou's character and took away every single important moment that happened in the webcomic.

>>280557455
The nose is always a giveaway

>>280522144 (OP)
Man this was a good fucking chapter to wake up to.
CE holding back tears as Bofoi btfo his giant mech literally and figuratively was 10/10

>>280557496
>They would just demand that they draw either more filler
which is exactly what happened
>or to write past the webcomic
they wouldn't because it's impossible, since ONE is the writer

>>280538754
That kind of reply doesn’t work anymore considering how hard the manga is flopping now and the threads need turbo necrobumping to make it to 500 lol.

>>280542188
Funny that this is one of the main issues of Dragon Ball.

>>280557563
>which is exactly what happened
No, we got filler but they also wasted quite literally like 3-4 years worth of new volumes because of rewrites during the duration of the whole series. That is hundreds of millions in lost sales. No fucking publisher with any actual power to make demands would allow that.
>they wouldn't because it's impossible, since ONE is the writer
Yes, because again they have NO FUCKING POWER. If they did they would just demand ONE to write more.

>>280557623
>No, we got filler but they also wasted quite literally like 3-4 years worth of new volumes because of rewrites during the duration of the whole series. That is hundreds of millions in lost sales. No fucking publisher with any actual power to make demands would allow that.

Show me a single shred of evidence that the frequency of volume release slowed down

>Yes, because again they have NO FUCKING POWER. If they did they would just demand ONE to write more.
You have no idea what compromise means, keep living in the dream world you invented

>>280557166
Well artists have been screeching about it for a few years haven't they (mostly western artists that I've seen though)

So is he a complete AI?
But we've seen his brain before, right?

>>280557166
Going back to my sperg rant at the end of the garou fight this feels vindicating seeing ONE almost confirm my theory that the series is about human motivation and creativity with heroism as a stand in. Praising the human mind over AI as well. Such a well written scene and chapter

>>280557644
>Show me a single shred of evidence that the frequency of volume release slowed down
How fucking retarded are you? Replace all the rewrites with actual new volume content and keep the same rate up. You would literally get years more worth of volumes with the exact same effort. If there were no rewrites the publisher would have literally have like 10 more volumes to sell for the exact same amount of effort from the creator.
>You have no idea what compromise means, keep living in the dream world you invented
Other manga don't have the ability to make compromises. You think a WSJ manga can just decide to rewrite years worth of content because the mangaka writer doesn't want to write more lmfao?

>>280557711
>How fucking retarded are you? Replace all the rewrites with actual new volume content and keep the same rate up. You would literally get years more worth of volumes with the exact same effort. If there were no rewrites the publisher would have literally have like 10 more volumes to sell for the exact same amount of effort from the creator.

go on, post the evidence then
show me that volume release slowed down. I'll wait.

>>280557690
>brain
I believe that's an anime/manga addition. In the Sea King fight, we don't see into his head, and during Garou his head is just a metal dome and we also don't see inside. I'm pretty sure as far as the WC goes, the inside of his head is an unknown

Rover guiding saitama and Black sperm telling saitama to be careful is wholesome

>>280557500
Are you retarded it totally did.
Saitama one-sidedly best Garou who run out of ideas what he would need to beat Saitama until Saitama sad him down and showed him how hollow is perspective is.

>>280557740
>remove years worth of content that would otherwise have been new volumes to sell for the publisher
>"prove that it would have lead to more frequent volume release"
Again, you are fucking retarded. The entire point is that they have an EXTREMELY favorable contract with the publisher there they only need to release a minimum amount of volumes a year and can do whatever the fuck they want otherwise because the publisher has no power to force them for more. The only other mangaka I can think of with this kind of favorability with their publisher is Akihito with Made in Abyss.

>>280557805

I'm waiting for the evidence, so far all you do is yap

>>280557758
It could also be that it's a dummy brain that doesn't actually do anything but hide the fact that he's not a real human

>>280557821
I already explained it to you. They only need to release a minimum amount of volumes a year and can do whatever the fuck they want otherwise because the publisher has no power to force them for more. Your entire question makes nonsense because the publisher never had the power in the first place to demand for more frequnt volume releases.

>>280522144 (OP)
The OPM webcomic's art now look on par with Chainsaw Man. It lost all of its charm of being poorly drawn in MSpaint.

>Genos was the Rampaging Cyborg all along
Would be kino.
This is the kind of conundrum that would give Saitama a fitting challenge

Edge.

Metal Knight - Bofoi
The good scientist that believes in the creative power of the human brain.

Drive Knight - Zero
The evil scientist that cyberized his brain and left his humanity behind. Leader of the Organization.

Genos
The mad cyborg created by Drive Knight, using Bofoi's AI model. Might not even be a cyborg, but a full on machine.

It fits with Elimin and Destro being members of the Neo Heroes, which are 100% connected to the Organization.

Neo heroes were a distraction, this is a war between Metal Knight Bofoi and Drive Knight Zero, and currently Zero has the upper hand.

>>280557978
where does Kuseno fit in all this?

>>280551661
How likely is it that Bofoi put the complete super-advanced intelligence into Boros' body?

Also, I'm theorizing that Genos may not only be the incomplete version of the super-advanced AI but that it may have reached the ceiling Bofoi talked about and that it may be about to make the breakthrough Bofoi talked about.
I think there may never have been any Mad cyborg.
I think that the final form that Kuseno gave Genos may be his ceiling as an artificial intelligence, but that he may be able to advance further by making the breakthrough that Bofoi talked about.
Bofoi said that this breakthrough comes through suffering and Genos is really suffering now.

>>280551661
I think we should make a thread to dump the chapter, there's no need to wait for the storytime, this will give us more threads to discuss the chapter in.

>>280557998
He's just some guy that read "How to build a Jobber" by Dr Zero

>>280558056
It's less than two days and it'll be more fun discussing it with all the people reading for the first time. We already have this thread to talk in, anyway, and everyone can just read the chapter for themselves.

>>280558162
>it'll be more fun discussing it with all the people reading for the first time
We can do both anyway and many will be reading for the first time in the dump thread too. I see no reason to wait, but whatever.

>>280558039
>But that suffering also holds the potential to break through the ceiling
Is Bofoi trying to imply that AI can go through monsterification?

>>280555880
Not him, but considering everything in general for me Murata's art was better than ONE's at least until before the redraw of the Phoenix Man fight, but ONE's current art is better than the quality Murata's art ended up with at some point after the redraw of the Phoenix Man fight. It seems that the redraws that Murata himself wanted to do drained his energy for the work.
I think that ONE's current art is better than Murata's current art because of how it conveys things, the composition, paneling, soul in it and so on but that Murata's art from the past, especially from before the MA arc was better overall even than ONE's current art.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-LaEhc-cuU
Excited to watch "One Punch Man Forever", the anime adaptation of the webcomic in 20 years time.
Thank you Murata for ruining everything.

>>280558384
I wish Murata had just followed ONE's lead without trying to add or change anything other than what ONE himself wants and that his art had remained the same quality as it was before the MA arc.

So Bofoi was obviously going to put the AI in Boros's body, if he hasn't done so already.
It's interesting that Metal Knight is clearly based on the "Pawn", "Rook", etc. models and is now 1000000% confirmed to be part of the evil robot side because of it.
Bofoi was actually a good guy which I'm glad about. After seeing him for a while now it was obvious he wasn't evil and any other conclusion would have been hacky.

>>280558412
I think people shit on Murata way too much. Sure, Murata is a great artist but a terrible writer, and his additions and changes are terrible.
ONE's original work, a parody webcomic he publishes when he feels inspired, isn't simply compatible with the weekly shounen business. And yeah, after S1 massive success, they tried to turn it into another shounenslop to milk.
My point is, I don't think Murata's ego is to blame as the great responsible for the path the manga/anime took, but the editors and business behind the anime. They probably asked Mutara to lengthen and make it more shounen-like, and Murata did his best.

>>280558276
I think he's just saying an AI may reach human creativity through suffering

One Punch Man (webcomic) is so fucking peak, what a fun read

>>280558767
Will he be able to impregnate her?

>>280558767
MY FUARKING HERO
Man, the fact that ONE could develop Sweet Mask of all people into MY FUARKING HERO is nothing short of impressive, I fucking love this character.

>>280556056
maybe Black-Out Fist, like black-out drunk

>>280552997
Nah, Saitama will get credit but so will the Suiko and the namefags.

>>280557500
Garou's character in the manga was already dead to me when he was doing the buddy cop thing with Metal Bat for no reason.

>>280558829
How about the dog and weird monkey? They are the real saviors

>>280558896
Just pets, they don't have hero rights

>>280558039
He's doing the exact opposite of suffering right now. The suffering only comes later when he's forced to acknowledge that he just murdered a guy on utterly false premises, which is also the one problem Saitama won't be able to punch himself out of.

>>280549758
Anpanman is THE most successful children's IP in Japan along with Doraemon and Hello Kitty, but unlike those two it is not known outside Japan very much. One Punch Man is clearly inspired by it, in fact, when spelled in Japanese One Punch Man and Anpanman are just one syllable in difference.

Do people really think (human) Kuseno could actually be a bad guy? He seemed pretty sincere the entire chapter. If he wanted to make Genos the perfect killing machine he could have groomed he way more efficiently. I could understand an AI version of him doing it, but Kuseno steered way clear of Bofoi until Genos brought it up.

>suspecting kuseno
couldn't be me

>>280554883
Can't remember what never happened in the WC.

isn't it logical for Fuzzy to be the guy after Bofoi's brain tho?

>>280559038
Think about it: everything that happened with and to Kuseno led to Genos attacking Bofoi without a second thought.
It's a little too convenient, isn't it?

this genos arc will end with wrapping up all the mad cyborg stuff and then the webcomic will move on to its final arc with "God" as the final boss.

>>280559038
I don't know about that. I think Kuseno, The Organization and Bofoi are wholly different groups. Genos is totally the Mad Cyborg, and possibly not even a cyborg at all.

>>280558039
so, Kuseno creates the organization, steals Bofoi's AI model and creates a fake identity, this AI becomes Genos, probably made Drive Knight as the original Machine God from stolen data as well
I need to reread OPM, as of right now I don't see how NEO fits in all of this
Are they a pawn of the Organization, used by Kuseno to realize his goal of stealing Bofoi's mind, thus effectively gaining all his knowledge
Bofoi = Dr. Light with a fake bad personality
Kuseno = Dr. Wily with a fake good personality
Eventually Genos will learn who he really is, and Saitama will tell him just what he needs to hear in the right moment, just like with Sweet Mask
Bofoi was always an obvious red herring, but I really like him know, what he said about time was really painful to hear
It's kinda funny that Dr. Genus is just there, another massive genius who's research would change everything
The guy made a strong dragon threat by himself, reversed his age and mastered cloning
Those achievements also invalidate Bofoi's words, if Genus really applied himself they would all have as much time as they need
Reminds me off Dragon Ball, Bulma and Dr. Gero are just around, inventing things that could solve all of our problems

>>280559130
Drive Knight is the one who set things up so not really? Kuseno does have a (potentially dark) history with the organization, but he could have raised him to be a perfect killing machine. I'm not questioning him having a shady past, but he's not scheming when we read his thoughts. Kuseno is clearly human and understands emotions, unlike all of the machine gods and Neo cyborgs we've seen so far.

>>280559130
It happened after Genos talked with Drive Knight, he told DK that he has people who he can trust and needs time to make a decision. I think DK didn't like this and followed Genos, he found out where Kuseno was hiding, so he killed him to push Genos to kill Bofoi

I think you are all going to be writing apology letters to Kuseno.

>>280559313
I just think it would be really boring if the mastermind is someone who we barely know anything about

>>280556185
>super strong robot attacking the Hero hq
>tfw it was killed alongside the other robots without having any dedicated panels. or will be

Why would Kuseno be attacking the HA though? What's his goal?

>>280559169
>Those achievements also invalidate Bofoi's words
I don't think so. Bofoi's words are broader than that. He's not JUST talking about the natural human lifespan. Different people have different amount of it, it can be extended with technology or whatever, but at the end of the day, everyone has a finite amount of time.
Even if you're immortal like Genus it's still true, literally the first time he was ever introduced he was under the danger of being killed off by Carnage Kabuto. If it wasn't for Saitama he would've been out of time right then and there, Bofoi's logic holds true.

Not to mention the literal impending extinction of humanity.

>Are they a pawn of the Organization
They definitely are, the neo heroes who wore the armors eventually got brainwashed and started fighting on the organization robots' side against humans.

>Kuseno = Dr. Wily with a fake good personality
I'm more leaning towards Drive Knight being the Dr. Wily here personally.

>>280558767
How much this story shits on My Hero Academia and all it stands for is insane.

>>280559511
>What's his goal?
His house was destroyed when a piece of a meteor fell on top of it. Now he will have his REVENGE against all of them!

>>280558039
This would also mean that there would be nothing gay about modeling Genos as a female AI.

>>280557978
>pic
i retardedly assumed it was a mistranslation and wrote it off.
nice theory

>>280522144 (OP)
>geno
>gen zero series
>genos was the AI all along
kino

>>280559216
>unlike all of the machine gods
What are you talking about?
The machine gods also understand emotions, they may not have used the complete version, but they were also made with the Metal Knight AI which is virtually indistinguishable from a human, also having emotions and everything. Thinking about it, that explains their behavior.

>>280559511
Genos(ide)
Matches the two cyborgs from Neo Heroes:
Elimin(ate)
Destro(y)

I think he just wants to kill.

>>280558039
Perhaps Kuseno used Saitama's data to make the final form that allows Genos to reach the ceiling.

>>280557013
Versus and Tenkaichi have absolutely nothing in common lmao, you drooling retard.
The truth is that you've read the first chapters of Versus back in the days when everyone was shitting on it, and you adopted this opinion out of sheer conformism because you're the typical zoomer that is incapable of thinking by himself, except that you've forgotten to update your opinion™ because it's been a while that everyone is loving Versus now that it has picked up its steam and all threads reach posts limits.
You're still stuck on the old whining "Fuck Versus, Azuma doesn't have the time anymore for big Tenkaichi chapters because of it!" that everyone else left behind a long time ago.

Thinking about it,Murata probably tried taking WC route here, but then preferred a childish power scale route due to his inability to write
Similar to the webcomic I think it would’ve been his words that ultimately shatter Garou.
But he had no plans to get out of this gutter because he couldn't think of how to write it so he undid the whole chapter and in haste went through with easiest option available, Cosmic Garou, biggest, baddest like a fucking 7 year old kid with action figures.

>>280557004
Yes, ONE is able to write genius characters and is the only shounen creator who seems to be able to do this well, even compared to Togashi. Contrast Child Emperor and Bofoi with Aizen or All For One. Especially AFO who is in the same superhero sub-genre and who is supposed to be Lex Luthor. Notice how AFO acts like a fucking retard constantly doing idiotic things and whose only indication of being a genius is that the narrative tells us he is and being drawn in poses as if he’s in control of everything. But the reality is that Hori is a shitty hack as a writer. The shounen industry only cares that you can draw, which he is good at so he gets to be a famous shounen creator and ONE gets to put out a fucking webcomic.

I think Suiko deserves a nice date with Saitama after all the trouble she went through

>>280560372
I love OPM and this chapter but there is nothing truly remarkable with Bofoi in terms of writing intelligence. He's your typical grumpy tech-wizard that doesn't give a shit what people think of him and that's it, and hasn't showed anything that screams genius.

Regarding Murata’s Suiko. Is it in-line with ONE’s vision who doesn’t have the technical skill to draw a decent female figure, or is Murata applying his coomer filter?

>>280522144 (OP)
[Spoiler] Killed by his own son [/Spoiler]
DAMN

>>280560090
why

>>280560452
I think she could look fiercer, but I'm not gonna say no to tits.

BTW are the muscle-based S-class heroes essentially naturally-monsterized people? I mean, monsters are created, naturally, when someone gets obsessed enough over something and they go through a transformation — isn’t that what happened with these guys? Or is it a mind-over-matter thing where is you believe in it hard enough it becomes true? Cracking the limiter a little letting extra power leak forward?

>>280557500
What kind of skill is it to be able to make such a downgrade?

>>280531139
I honestly think he did pretty well for a 10 year old. He got into the fortress, presumably disabling several guards, and he got a few hits in on MK himself before being defeated.

I know Child Emperor feels he should be judged by adult standards, but if you take Bofoi as essentially the same type of super-intelligent hero, he still has 50+ years of experience and research on CE.

>>280560370 (me)
Of course, I recognize that it was already shit anyway. He had already ruined it regardless.

Killer line. Saitama redeemed the fuck out of this man.

>>280524998
>>280552933
Drive Knight == Metal Knight == CYBOGRS
OH MAI GAH!

>>280560608
I mean, do you think Saitama is a monster?

>>280560733
Well, he *is* bald and destroyed entire cities...

>>280560608
It is a mind-over-matter thing where is you believe in it hard enough it becomes true. Cracking the limiter a little letting extra power leak forward.

>>280560755
I'm sure ONE has already stated that he is human.

>>280560755
HE'S BALD??!?!?

>>280539667
ONE has a family? Like, wife+kids?

>>280559038
>but Kuseno steered way clear of Bofoi until Genos brought it up.
And how did Drive Knight even know about the Genos story? It seems to me that Kuseno gave him the information.

>>280560423
Agreed.

>>280559216
>>280559283
Think about this >>280560817

>It happened after Genos talked with Drive Knight, he told DK that he has people who he can trust and needs time to make a decision. I think DK didn't like this and followed Genos, he found out where Kuseno was hiding, so he killed him to push Genos to kill Bofoi
Look at the pic in this >>280557978 post
With this context, it actually makes Kuseno even more suspicious.

>>280533854
the fact that webcomic goes with its own continuity where siryu never met saitama just says that it is indeed unnecessary

>>280559168
I think the Mad Cyborg may never have existed.

>>280538902
>Suiryu is Italian,
That doesn't make a lick of sense, but if it means that Suiko is also Italian I'm fine with it.

>>280534686
>I'm wondering if moth Psykos was still based on something ONE drafted, or it he was completely gone by that point
I don't think it was based on anything ONE did, I think he was completely gone by that point. If you pay attention there was a change in Orochi's personality at that point and the lines put him more in line with what he said in the redraw and then Murata did the redraw of Orochi later where he left his personality in line with how he wrote Orochi when he went to merge with Psykos and he put the whole sacrifice thing in when Orochi merged with Psykos. It seemed that it was at that moment that Murata began to transform Orochi into the Orochi of the redraw, turning him into just a clown that was just a battery for Psykos.
> I don't remember when Murata went back to retcon Saitama's encounter with Orochi, was it before or after the moth?
It was then that he also made his personality and lines more in line with what he did when he merged with Psykos. He even put the sacrifice that Orochi mentioned when he wanted to consume Psykos in the redraw.
What I can't remember is whether that Psykorochi shit was before or after the second redraw of the Phoenix Man fight, but I think the times were pretty close.

>>280560647
Did Metal Knight even do anything to try to do anything to stop him from getting inside? It sounds like he could just walk in, no problem.
It's important to remember that Bofoi isn't being entirely honest when he talks about pragmatism and focusing on results over everything, since he clearly cares about Isamu to the point where he even lets him have the first move and plays around with his battle suit, instead of just knocking him out immediately. He's not above a bit of chuunibyou of his own, either, and he even lectures Isamu on how to properly summon your giant robot.
He commends the boy for coming up with the floating hand strategy, but he's really not taking the fight seriously. Once Isamu brings in his ultimate weapon, Bofoi likewise brings in his real weapon (also as a sign of respect), and it turns out the lad, the way he is now, isn't even remotely in the elder scientist's league. It's an important learning moment for him, with Bofoi going out of his way to point out all of Isamu's mistakes, and if the fight was more equal, it wouldn't work as well.

>>280533943
>Sweet Mask killing humans was 100 % Murata which is why he went back and redrew all that.
I can't remember, but was Sweet Mask's redraw before or after Phoenix Man's second redraw?

>>280561094
Yeah, I agree. Through the autism sicentist lens it's a surprisingly tender moment. Bofoi clearly does treat CE as something of a protege and he probably enjoyed having him hang around the lab.

>>280539527
>would be
it's not even close

>>280557500
>>280558850
It was dead when Garou showed up during surface fight completely randomly and was fighting some random guys as a complete sideshow while fucking Fuhrer Ugly was tearing through people.

>>280557500
Yeah, it was bad enough already. I didn't expect Murata made something even worse.

>>280561294
The difference between Garou's introduction on the surface in the manga vs the webcomic was the point where anyone who'd read the webcomic could see that this was going into complete dogshit territory.
Thrown away absolute kino and replaced it with fucking dogshit of the lowest degree.

>>280561023
The idea of a martial artist going Mama Mia! Is oddly appealing

>>280560872
I find DK more sus, the fact that kuseno was on the kill list from the organization and he telling genos to run away and forget about his revenge as his last words should clear him

>>280561698
>he telling genos to run away and forget about his revenge as his last words should clear him
Or he could simply have already known how he would react, just as he knew how he would react if it weren't for Saitama's influence, and that's why he acted in this way to make him go berserk even harder.

>>280561698
>>280561959
And this may also have been to push his emotions even further in order to make him reach the breakthrough because he had already reached the ceiling.

>>280561959
>>280562044
Seems like overcomplicated mental gymnastics

>>280562146
Maybe

Is there a possibility of a scenario where Bofoi, Kuseno and Drive Knight are all innocent?

Also, could the organization have some kind of noble goal like saving humanity and genuinely think that dominating and cyborgizing them is the best way to peace and salvation or something?

>>280523199
No it was retardproof feature working

>>280545425
Gen 0s or Gen OS

>>280562604
Can anyone even imagine or suggest such a scenario? Because I am not being able to.

I think that if Bofoi survives he could end up becoming responsible for maintaining Genos and Webigaza

>>280563032
in a world with cyborgification, of course he'll survive.
child emperor is right there too.

>>280563032
Bofoi might die, but he'll probably at least have some final words to depart to Isamu.

Honestly, why didn’t Murata just take a month’s break to figure out what to do?

>>280563414
Murata is preparing to just redraw it all over from chapter 1

>>280562914
kek

>>280563414
He has done that several tines lmao

>>280557500
I remember when this came out, we were all pissed.

>>280562604
Fuzzy and other members of the organization like Kuseno stole Bofoi's data and created robots. Genos is their attempt at Bofoi's super AI, but he went crazy and was shut down.
Kuseno defected the organization, fixed up Genos and erased his memories. His goal is to find a way to stop super AIs from going mad, that's why everything he does is to try to get Genos to calm down and avoid violence. He might have 'died' even as a final test to see if Genos can control himself or if super AIs are doomed.
Drive Knight is the super AI that Bofoi made and said is very human like and needs education. He has daddy issues and isn't sure what to do, if he resents his creator or not.
Fuzzy will be the mastermind this arc who cyborgified his mind and lost his human sensibilities. He doesn't believe that the super AI can ever be controlled as a human.

No real evidence for such a scenario, but it does:
- make Drive Knight's statement to Genos that they are the same much more hilarious
- explain where Bofoi's super AI is. If it's Genos, Bofoi lost it several years ago and isn't concerned about it at all, which seems odd with his personality. On the other hand Drive Knight is a well known entity with lots of similarities to Bofoi, and the statement that he needs education could refer to his 'rebellious' tendencies.
- ONE seems pretty intent on making all the heroes virtuous on some level, so Drive Knight being evil doesn't really fit
- Genos seems to have more in common with the Organization (name, diverse abilities) while drive knight thematically way closer to Bofoi
- fit with the climax of the arc's location, which is likely NEO tower. Saitama is already at HA and will one punch whatever is there, we know that Bofoi CE Genos are all good people and there's not a lot of room for the conflict to grow there, but Neo Tower has Fuzzy, the Yakuza guy, A, Destro, Elimin, Metal Bat, and now Sweet Mask and Webigaza are on their way.

>>280559038
Yeah, seems like a trustworthy dude.

>>280525444
>2 strikes in the no no square
Lewd

>>280563592
Kuseno isn't an evil antagonist as ONE exposed his thoughs more than once, he is genuinely a nice grampa... The problem is Genos, Did Kuseno ever told us Genos was fully human from the start, he just said he gave him "power"? Only Genos said he was a human from the start.

Here is a picture of Kuseno finding the "Mad Cyborg" (Genos) after he nearly died because of his own madness (he lost his memories).

>>280562914
gem

>>280563414
Isn't he in the middle of a 2 month break right now? It's right before the sweet mask arc too, so presumably he's finetuning how to completely fuck it up.

Murata quietly axing the manga. He havent update anything

>>280557004
It's because Bofoi is a realistic genius in that he is also a retarded autist.

>>280564138
Next chapter is scheduled for the 17th

>>280564268
Its cancelled. Its over. There are no Murata OPM

>>280564308
I wish it were true too, but I have to correct the record. I can't let any other anons get their hopes up.

>>280564268
I wish I wasn't masochistic enough to go read it immediately.
But I have to. I have to bathe in the bad.

>>280564418
oh, you little drama queen

>>280561294
>>280561666
In my opinion the surface fight was ruined when Genos joined the fight against Psykorochi and this page wasn't possible anymore, but anyone who had read the webcomic could tell that everything went to shit before that with the multiple Phonenixman redraws, the Wacky Underground Adventures of Saitama and Flash featuring Manako, and when fucking God and Blast appeared.
I was okay with Fuhrer Ugly being an absolutely terrifying and merciless monster though.

>>280564451
Shut up. It's not my fault, It's in GOD's plan, that he made anger so much stronger than a man.

>>280557579
What the hell are you talking about?

>>280564418
This 'post' is 'green'

>>280558767
>peak
Shut the fuck up.

>>280563032
>working on ai
>panels with wires connected to his brain
>next panel he's implied to be dead through impailing
He isn't dead. He's going to truly become Metal Knight now.

How do you guys think Opm ends? Will Saitama get his office job?

Funny.

>>280557853
Piggy-backing off of your comment to do my own ramble (I agree with everything you've stated), I've seen this argument before plenty of times all the way back last year, about the manga """needing""" redraws to not "catch-up", or how redraws are "filler" even though it does the literal opposite, a fact which magically keeps flying over the heads of people who argue otherwise:
It's completely baseless. It's self-explanatorily pointless. Anybody who's actually READ the fucking manga should know there was already proper expansion through shit like Orochi or Elder Centipede, The manga is LITERALLY already its own fucking thing, even more than it is an "adaptation".
Deleting and redrawing your own content regularly is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE to expansion. Murata could literally just do nothing. You know, like how GRRM is doing nothing how how the HxH anime doesn't re-animate episodes for no rhyme or reason. And hey, they're even ALLOWED to do absolutely nothing. I have no idea how this argument keeps coming back up, or how people try to twist the situation into "poor Murata is getting oppressed by external forces" when it's genuinely enough to just explain what a redraw is to disprove this.
The redraws are tanking sales even harder than a hiatus ever would. It's plain to see, just looking at the sales charts.
Because nobody wants to read a manga where you don't even know if what you're reading is going to be meaningful. And forcing people to need to read the physical volumes will have the OPPOSITE effect of making them want to purchase them.