Thread 280541963

This fight was pure kino. Why did people hate it?

I don't know. How about you tell us what's so "kino" about this fight, OP.

>>280542084
pew pew sword laser beams

>>280541963 (OP)
Who hates this fight? It's literally one of the most popular ones.

>wow look how strong i am now
>here's one BIG getsuga tensho
>oops, i didn't win anyway
>that's okay, urahara had this planned out all along
Does this even qualify as a fight, even by Bleach standards?

>>280541963 (OP)
It was a pleb filter, I enjoyed watching Ichigo mopping the floor with Aizen while he though everything was in control.

>>280541963 (OP)
Why do you care about what other people think about these fucking cartoons? If you like it then like it, imagine trying to get the approval from retards on the internet who don't reflect casual opinion anyways. The fight has millions of views and is one of Bleach's top AMV videos.
Either enjoy or dislike and move on fag.

>>280543083
By this point Aizen got way too many powerups for a sudden asspull powerup of Ichigo to trash him like that. The powercreep on both sides was stupid and I’m still annoyed that Yama sacrificing his fucking arm barely just scratched Aizen’s clothes.
Also this fight is pretty much the complete opposite of pleb filter.

>>280542084
I like the tables turn moment of Ichigo stopping Aizen's sword with his hand also thus stopping the effect of Kyoka Suigetsu without even knowing it, it just happened non-chalantly

>>280541963 (OP)
This fight needs to be remade, animation is a bit outdated. Though still looks better than tybw.

>>280543083
yeah it was satisfying to see Aizen smugness become delusional cope while Ichigo is just being cool and unbothered by it

his
>I SAID LETS GO
palming Aizen's face and draggin his ass to the battleground in the middle of a monologue is one of the coolest moments

>>280541963 (OP)
It's objectively bad writing, but fun.
Your whole fucking series, 400 chapters by this point, have been devoted to THIS villain. You can't just pull a One Punch Man on it...
And admittedly, it was full as hell. I laughed and got hyped tons watching Aizen babble about things he didn't actually understand while pretending he's still stronger (and later equal) to Ichigo while he just stares unamused.

But Ichigo's last fight against Ulquiorra was already this. A big powerup and stomping the unbeatable enemy. The manga was even worse, the anime added a couple of traded hits to make it seem more even.
Kubo REALLY likes his one-sided fights apparently. Also it made zero sense that Ichigo's training would shoot him past every Captain, his mentors, Yamamoto himself, and Aizen after 3 or 4 godlike evolutions to such a degree. It looked like Ichigo had infinite power and was breaking the 4th wall or something, hello? Aizen was the one with the omnipotent device etched into him.
Ichigo was beyond that and even after Aizen evolves one more time, he still can't feel Ichigo's presence. This is pure asspull writing Kubo on a whim decided that Kurosaki's true power was being an omnipotent God or something and rightfully he pretends that never happened during the final arc because the Ichigo from that fight could just stand still tanking every enemy and wiping them all out in 0.001 seconds.
At most let Ichigo slowly dominate the fight against Butterflyzen similar to SSJ Goku VS Frieza, and once Aizen evolves to Monster form have things get dire for Ichigo until he decides to sacrifice all or his power for Mugetsu to end this

>>280543237
Aizen created a perfect counter for Yama desu
>muh powercreep
we are in a shonen buddy

>>280543237
It didn't make sense within the series. Aizen was scared shirtless of Yamamoto grabbing him, who could dig into his arms with just his finger strength.
His arm using a sacrificial hadou should have shown Aizen getting severely fucked up (this could be the reason Ichigo's dad could trash him around), or make it a good moment to showcase the Hogyoku regeneration. The moment fell flat with no damage.

Aizen got too cocky

>>280541963 (OP)
>Why did people hate it?
It was way too short
Animation and choreography was mid
Schizo Aizen was OOC
Wasn't as picrel or Ichigo v Ulquiorra
Gon-san ripoff form (FGT) was an asspull
Aizen didn't even try to use shikai or bankai

>>280543310
>Though still looks better than tybw
b8

>>280546446
That looks like fucking shit. And the colors are abysmal.

>>280546530
>That looks like fucking shit
Brap

>>280546655
>Brap
Oh it's you. Sigh....

I mean the plot was purely hack trash, but the fight itself was….worth looking at. The “you’ve evolved to a god, but I evolved into a super beyond god because I’m the protagonist so obviously I win duh” isn’t what you’re supposed to pay attention to in Bleach which the definition of rule-of-cool shounen. It’s like reading Fairy Tale for the fights and not the t&a, you’re doing it wrong.

>>280546672
>braaaappp

>>280546672
Don’t mind the brapfaggot, everyone here agrees the original Bleach anime is better than TYBW

>>280541963 (OP)
It was fucking boring. Just Ichigo stomping Aizen. Ichigo's best fight is his last one against Grimmjow.

>>280546446
What a horrible and lazy Itano circus

>>280546922
Is this "everyone" in the room with us right now, samefag?

>>280547384
you're not a real Bleach fan if you like TYBW

>>280547935
>t. IRcuck

GETSUGAAAAAAAAAA

Actually which fight that arc was the most disappointing trash in your opinion. There were so many AWFUL fights.

>>280550355
TENSHOOOOOUUUUU

>>280550359
The starrk and lilynette fight was horrible

>>280550359
It's a free for all between the Top 3 Espada, hyped up since the beginning of the Arrancar arc and they all amounted to nothing, with Aizen even going
>Well this was a failure of an experiment, they're worthless. I just made you watch filler.
After experiencing massive dbz battles with Grimmjow, Nnoitra and Ulquiorra, in which characters like Ichigo and Kenpachi had to give it their all (and Zaraki was roflstomping Komamura and Tosen back in the ss arc, I don't give a duck about retcons, he was meant to be a top tier Captain) against 6, 5 and 4(++)... Suddenly the weakest Captains and Vizards can take on Espadas 3, 2 and 1. Granted, not all that effectively and they mostly lost, but being realistic Hitsugaya, Soifon, and the Vizards should have gotten the Chad treatment ; get quickly incapacitated as the Espada go
>Now send us a real challenge
Instead the Espada sandbagged it and eventually lost, never showing an ounce of the power the ones in Hueco Mundo did.


Aizen and Ulquiorra are also contenders. The narrative is good, but the fights are a letdown, authors should know better than to do generic protag powerups to instantly win.. That's the kind of shit you see in anime original shonen movies to quickly wrap them up.

>>280541963 (OP)
Best girl

BANKAI

>>280551551
DAIGUREN HYORINMARU

>>280541963 (OP)
>O MY FINAL GETSUGA TENSHOU

emo ichigo is so cool

>>280542084
it was full of aura and hype, cool transformations, Ichigo looked badass with his new style, it had good characterization for Aizen

>>280543237
powercreep is fucking cool, kill yourself tien/krillin/yamchafag

>>280541963 (OP)
It was kino because Orihime confessed after

>>280549852
Mindbroken himecuck.

>>280544371
>>280550668
this
bleach is fucking awful

>>280550359
imo ichigo and ulquiorra's second fight was the most disappointing. Szayelaporro's fight was the most intolerable to watch/read through because it just wouldn't fucking end, and hitsugaya/harribel was the most boring.

>>280552608
>t. IRcuck

Bankai.

Senbonzakura Kageyoshi.

>>280541963 (OP)
The main antagonist didn't even try to use his major power that was the defining, unique threat for anyone who'd try fighting him, and the protagonist suddenly got an off-screen training arc to practically get plot device'd into someone who'd end the arc ASAP rather than it being fleshed out or well-paced.

>>280543003
The final Getsuga Tensho being just a big AOE attack was so underwhelming because this was the kind of thing that'd be rife for a Kuboism like
>"Who said there was only one Final Getsuga Tenshou?"
Instead it was bog standard shonen massive energy beam that didn't do anything in the end

Eww the spics are making bleach threads and complaining. This is why women are better than men.

>>280544371
>and rightfully he pretends that never happened during the final arc
Nah. Yhwach says Ichigo has become even stronger than he was after Dangai. But Ichigo jobbed anyway.

>>280554419
>Nah. Yhwach says Ichigo has become even stronger than he was after Dangai. But Ichigo jobbed anyway.
He never said that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BleachPowerScaling/comments/1htow3t/true_shikai_vs_dangai_is_a_joke/

>>280554312
Something like FGT killing you dead infinitely or bypassing regeneration, I dunno. It really was just one big slash in the end.

>>280554452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXPC2HXjrYU

>>280554700
Mental illness

>>280554720
>he says that while linking to a powerlevelfaggotry subr*dd*t

>>280554735
Would you rather places like fanverse where they overwhelmingly say the same thing?
You're mentally ill.

>>280554763
You sure are knowledgeable about places of powerlevelfaggotry. You need to go back.

>>280554826
Yet you came into this thread to talk about.

>>280541963 (OP)
Aizen > Ichigo
This will never change

>>280541963 (OP)
>Aizen is the most powerful person in the history of the world, basically completely unbeatable
>he completely forgets 95% of his moveset or the fact he was supposed to be smart and turns into a meathead
>Ichigo gets a brand-new powerup that doesn't do anything interesting and just makes him generically stronger until he changes color and wins in one slash

>>280541963 (OP)
Bleach is bad and bleachfags are literally subhuman.

>>280550668
>Suddenly the weakest Captains and Vizards can take on Espadas 3, 2 and 1
It's so much worse than that.
Starrk is the strongest hollow to ever live to the point he radiated an aura that killed anyone who came near him for miles. Then he became an arrancar and got even stronger.
His only power was to shoot gun and then he lost to a SHIKAI.

>>280554367
It's literally one Aizenfag losing his shit. He always comes here during midnight hours (I'm assuming he's from a 3rd world shithole) and samefags constantly in these dead threads for either bait engagement or to keep these dying Bleach threads alive. Let this show die.

>>280555000
HOLY DIGITS

ButterflAizen

>>280552687
it's easily one of the worst shonen ever made

>>280555174
It was good at first but then it got worse. I tried tybw and it was one of the worst written arcs I've ever seen in any shonen. It's so fucking bad. The author seems more interesting in themes and symbolism than writing a coherent story.

This is why I prefer grounded genres or shoujo. Shonen is not good. Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, HXH, JJK, Demon Slayer. Trashy media for braindead people.

>>280555024
Yeah, Bleachfags really need to stop with these trash threads. No one gives a damn about that garbage, and the only time people talk about it is to shit on how awful the manga is

>>280555216
Lmao Kubo isn’t smart enough to use symbolism or themes, he just throws in whatever he thinks looks cool and that’s it. Nothing really has much meaning beyond that

>>280555358
He's easily one of the dumbest shonen authors out there. Only a braindead idiot could’ve come up with that Zero Espada twist, lmao, legit one of the stupidest things I’ve ever seen in a manga

It's great being a female bleachfag. As long as I can indulge in fanfiction and fujo art, I'm satisfied. I don't give a fuck about the bad storytelling and powerfagging in the manga :3

>>280554984
>15 years later, powerlevel autists still argue which form is stronger
Embarrassing. Even gooning is a better hobby.

>>280541963 (OP)
The art style was at a nadir.

>>280550359
The worst thing for me was Yamamoto getting sidelined because he's too strong.

>>280542084
both evolved into something nobody has ever seen or thought possible, merging with the Zanpakuto
and Aizen here is still experimenting, there's still so much to discover

>>280555466
Yeah, in a way you fucking fujos only care about the character designs, that’s one of the few things that dumb fuck is actually good at, and even there he totally fucked it up in the last arc. Seriously, the designs of those shitty Sternritters are awful

>>280543003
You do know what a fight is right?

>>280555009
Jesus fucking Christ, the Hollows have it so rough. He should be the equivalent to Aizen and Yamamoto from the Shinigami side, a natural born beast... But he doesn't get to show anything like that. Who knows, maybe Ulquiorra was that? Not that we'd know, he was stomped by Ichigo.

The world building is just utterly unbalanced to make the enemies weaker than the protagonists before TYBW

>>280551989
Bankai can have more than one technique, speedreader.

>>280550668
>>280555009
I will forever laugh at Starrkfags and Barraganfags (Harribelfags do not exist) for how hard Kubo humiliated them in favor of Ulquiorra.
>muh #1 Hollow to ever exist, strongest Ceroes, even Aizen was afraid of him! (Klub cope)
>b-but he didn't fight seriously!
>muh million year old king of HM, literal oldest and first Vasto in existence
>he didn't fight seriously either, I promise he could've taken out most of the Gotei 13!
Meanwhile, one Cero Oscuras from R1 Ulquiorra...

>>280543237
Ahh yes asspull the word shitposters use to discredit something they don’t like

>>280555627
No one cares though, touch grass.

>>280555647
>no one cares
>I reply to people who do
Try harder next time. TYBW is even more hilarious to dunk on with the out of control power levels. Kubo clearly didn't know wtf he was doing.

>>280555644
Man, I can’t believe you’re seriously defending Tite Kubo’s writing of all things. Just accept it, Bleach is badly written and only enjoyable in a dumb fun kind of way

>>280555559
Pretty much, I don’t care about the sternritters. They’re ugly and uninteresting. Ehh I’ve also stopped watching the last arc because I simply don’t care enough to finish. I also dropped the manga when it was being released.

>>280555174
I really liked it until ss.
For me, the worst part of Bleach was that Kubo kept introducing characters, plot points and misteries and never resolving any of them.
Bleach is the anime version of LOST. Same shit.

>>280555696
all writings do have contradictions

Cute.

>>280555696
Bleach was always seen that way, no one used to take it seriously. But now there’s this weird revisionism trying to say Bleach was always good and full of deep, Nietzschean themes, when in reality it’s just a dumb but fun story. And I’m pretty sure Kubo never actually thought any of that through beyond just going with the rule of cool

>>280555682
the powerlevel is fine
>>280555734
soul king lore is good

>>280555813
all of your claims are basically
>it's bad it's bad it's bad
but never pointed out which part or bring any proof

>>280555779
The man is dumb as hell, he doesn’t know how to develop characters so he just keeps creating new ones instead. And the worst part is he always reuses the same damn archetypes

>>280555779
show us all the unresolved plot points and the misteries
all talk no proof

>>280555816
>soul king lore is good
Was it good when he finally decided what he wanted to do with the Soul King, as he still hadn't made up his mind when he was introduced?

And even then, his limbs being sentient and running around is stupid as hell. One just randomly chills in the Rukongai and decided to bind with Ukitake. Another was given by Ichibe to Yhwach in exchange for temporarily sealing the Almighty. And we have no idea where the fuck Gerard came from. Not even getting into Narita's fanfiction with shit like the Fullbringers all having his nails, or how Rangiku randomly had a fragment of the Soul King Aizen extracted. This is not good lore.

>>280555839
character archetypes have limit, dumbfuck
your characters will eventually fall under the archetypes
>energetic
>pokerface
>crazy
>good person
>vengeance

>>280555854
This panel is so ridiculous, it just proves he didn’t plan anything and how fucking dumb he is. Same with that whole thing about Renji’s Bankai not being broken, lmao. The guy doesn’t even respect his own writing, and there are still retards out there defending this garbage

>>280555890
Ah, I forgot to mention that Ichigo’s Bankai also breaks in that fight where Ulquiorra reveals he’s Number 4 and makes a hole in Ichigo’s chest

Kitty wants love

>>280542084
>villain had an instant win button
>used it on everyone except the MC
>got squashed in 3 chapters after like 200 chapters of effortlessly running circles around every other character
Kys revisionistnigger

>>280555890
The Bankai breaking is hilarious. The explanation is that broken Bankai cannot regenerate like Shikai do, so if you get dunked on really hard while in Bankai, you risk losing part or the entirety of your power. Except, conveniently, the guys who kept getting trashed in Bankai, Komamura and Toushirou, do not have that issue due to their special circumstances. Mayuri can also restore his Bankai endlessly, just because he can.

>>280555854
nothing wrong with changing the blueprint until you get the desired result
all his limbs have godly powers, similar to christian trinity that god can split into multiple sentients
>One just randomly chills in the Rukongai and decided to bind with Ukitake. Another was given by Ichibe to Yhwach in exchange for temporarily sealing the Almighty. And we have no idea where the fuck Gerard came from. Not even getting into Narita's fanfiction with shit like the Fullbringers all having his nails, or how Rangiku randomly had a fragment of the Soul King Aizen extracted. This is not good lore.
soul king was literally implied to be mutilated, are you dumb?

I want to fuck him

>>280555905
the bankai sword didn't break, retard

>>280555890
Mayuri mentioned Renji's Bankai was broken

>>280555940
Ichigo never saw the ritual to activate Kyoka Suigetsu, that's why he was immune
it was the entire plot point

>>280556001
considering how fucking dumb Ichigo is, Aizen could have done the ritual several times over
the ritual is just "look at this thing"

>>280555957
>nothing wrong with changing the blueprint until you get the desired result
There is everything wrong with not having a plan about something so crucial to Bleach's lore. Please get Kubo's cock out of your mouth before you speak.
>soul king was literally implied to be mutilated, are you dumb?
I am aware of that. I'm talking about the circumstances regarding his body parts and how they impacted the story. Also, it would've been really clever if Kubo gave SK a hole in his chest, signifying his heart was missing, foreshadowing Gerard. But it's clear that hack pulled that shit at the last moment to make that boring fag unbeatable (before Yhwach conveniently nukes him lol), and didn't bother fixing it even in the anime.

>>280556001
It takes a fucking second for Aizen to activate it, he could have done it at any time but chose not to because lazy plot armor

Kisses…<3
Everyone should stop arguing and sit back and relax to enjoy some fanart.

>>280556015
Even better, he doesn't need to say anything. I think the only thing he needs to do is to just show a sliver of his blade, and that's it. I forget if Tousen was immune or not to KS, I think this is something CFYOW addresses (a good point, actually).

>>280556010
Ichigo was 16 practically a child. PEDO ALERT

>>280556062
Are you retarded? What does this have to do with anything?

>>280541963 (OP)
These days "pure kino" is a term used by 5 year olds with garbage taste.

Bleach is practically about an old man grooming a child, embarrassing.

>>280556015
we've never actually seen the ritual, speedreader
Kyoka Suigetsu's ritual was done hundreds of years ago when Aizen joined Gotei 13 to hypnotize the captains and lieutenants

>>280556081
it resembles Jiraiya getting horny watching underage Naruto in Sexy no Jutsu

>>280555976
Man, you clearly weren’t paying attention when you read that crap, that’s why you’re defending Kubo. His sword breaks while Bankai is active and then it reverts back to Shikai afterward

>>280550359
Name 5 awful fights then. It’s the second best arc btw

Damn, does that make me a pedo?

>>280556012
he already has the blueprint, but not the execution
>so crucial to Bleach's lore
not true, all the plots until TYBW didn't depend on Soul King

>>280556105
The simple answer to this is that Kubo hadn't thought of the mechanics of Bankai breaking at this point. Of course, accepting this means he retconned it in TYBW, but the bootlickers will never accept that, because that means Kubo's writing is flawed.

>>280556152
>he already has the blueprint, but not the execution
So he doesn't plan shit then. Having a vague idea of what to do with a plot point is not even a blueprint.
>not true, all the plots until TYBW didn't depend on Soul King
Because all the Soul King stuff was made up only in TYBW. Before that, all we knew was that he was lynchpin of the world and Aizen hated submitting to "that thing".

>>280556163
He doesn't plan anything properly. I get that making a weekly manga must be hell, but I don't think I've ever seen a manga as poorly planned as Bleach

>>280556197
Kubo must be a really dumb guy

>>280555845
I don't remember much before I dropped the manga. But I remember some.
The temu mister satan guy (the anime at least tried to save the character)
That mom with the kid who gave Ichigo a job.
Ichigo's sister training with hat guy.
The classmates of Ichigo going to see the hat guy also lead to nothing really.
Ichigo's dad killing the hollow who killed his wife-mom, Ichigo is never told about it, but he act like that part of his character was resolved, because the reader knew it happened.

Also, what I really, really never understood, why was Ichigo fighting "for his friends" while being openly hostile to all of them.

>>280546288
>>280547384
H F K
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>>280556217
>Ichigo's dad killing the hollow who killed his wife-mom, Ichigo is never told about it, but he act like that part of his character was resolved, because the reader knew it happened.
Kubo actually resolves this in a rather stupid way. The final villain is the one who actually killed his mom by rendering her powerless, and Ichigo gets his closure by defeating him.

It actually astounds me how bad Bleach is due to this simple fact: characters do not talk to each other about shit.

This is 101 storywriting. If a conflict can be resolved by characters talking things out, then it's a badly written conflict, and you need to go back to the drawing board.

>>280556105
like I said it was never broken
Ulquiorra didn't break the sword using any attack
after revealing his number, he just stabs Ichigo with bare hand and Ichigo collapses, that's it
Kubo just forgot to draw the sword

>>280556217
He has repressed emotions, conflicted how to express them. He can’t open up because of his mommy issues, without her and his dad being a deadbeat he can’t properly regulate how he feels.

>>280555009
This post is way too easy to debunk
>Starrk is the strongest hollow to ever live to the point he radiated an aura that killed anyone who came near him for miles
Aizen didn’t power him up
>His only power was to shoot gun and then he lost to a SHIKAI
He had wolves that were strong enough to take out two masked Captain Vizards and a Shikai took out 8 Captain tier opponents

>>280555940
>instant win button
It only makes people see things differently instead of any illusion. It can't make things invisible or animate a stationary object.
So it's pointless in that 1v1 fight.

>>280556268
Pic related T_T

>>280556183
he did plan but not exactly the execution
Soul King is as early as early chapters before SS arc, retard
Royal Guards were already mentioned

>>280556060
sonicdoreader

>>280555696
So what’s the asspull then? See how I can tell you’re full of shit

>>280556163
>every writing is flawed
no shit

>>280556086
Retard the entire ritual is just him activating his Shikai by touching the hilt of his sword. Does any other captain have to go through a lengthy ritual to use their Shikai? If it worked on Baraggan and even Yhwach then it would work on fucking Ichigo.

>>280556261
LMAO the sword is clearly broken dude, you can literally see the pieces all over the place. Kubo probably wanted to symbolize Ichigo's broken resolve, but ended up biting his own ass later by doing that dumb retcon

>>280556197
>other series has flaws
>forgives it
>but not for Bleach because hateboner

>>280556327
it's not broken, it's just turning into Shikai
if you read previous pages the sword was never broke

>>280556290
>he did plan but not exactly the execution
The Soul King being intact and presumably alive means he didn't plan shit. This isn't hard to understand.
>Soul King is as early as early chapters before SS arc, retard
He is first mentioned by Yamamato when talking about Aizen's goal with the Oken. That is not before SS.
>Royal Guards were already mentioned
Ah yes, when it's stated they're needed to defeat a Gillian LMAO

>>280555779
For me it's that everything amounts to very convenient fight matchups
>I can accelerate the ageing process of anything in my vicinity to the point it decays almost instantly
>My bankai is a oneshot skill lol

>I've ascended to a godlike being
>Actually this one sword isn't mine. It's my vice captain's family heirloom that can slay gods

>I can become immune to any reiatsu frequency I've experienced
>Oh yeah? I can change mine a bazillion times a second!
Bleach is just style over substance which I think Kubo isn't even bad at. His character design and artstyle are pretty good. But he really needs someone else to write for him.

>>280543237
>Weaken Ichigo traded blows with Gin
>Gin oneshotted Eizen
>Eizen turned to forma de butterfly
>Ichigo the final powerup damaged butterfly Eizen but didn't kill
what powercreep?

>>280556330
>whataboutism
We're talking about Bleach, not other series.

>>280556352
>presumably alive
he's literally inside a fucking stone, you dumbfuck
>
Royal Guards are to protect king, obviously
Oken, Royal Key, also has to do with king
you're dumb

Themes

>>280556388
you mentioned other series here
>but I don't think I've ever seen a manga ...

>>280556352
Now tell everyone who was taking care of the hollows before zanpakto were created

>>280556330
Other series don’t have as many flaws as Bleach, so why do you want so badly to defend Kubo’s writing, huh?

>>280556421
Name your favorite series and anon will destroy your narrative.

Bleach should’ve been a romance manga

>>280556353
But honestly, what shonen fight isn't like that? Kek. The problem is just that in Bleach it’s way too obvious

>>280556358
ichigo lost to gin
aizen survived gin
aizen survived ichigo because hogyoku keeps evolving

>>280556390
>he's literally inside a fucking stone, you dumbfuck
He can literally communicate with the Royal Guards and gives orders. Like when it's mentioned he ordered the reconstruction of the Gotei 13 or it's mentioned he's taken a liking to Kurosaki Ichigo. This is not dead. Kubo literally changed his mind about him being dead a few chapters later.
>Royal Guards are to protect king, obviously
And also fight Menos, apparently. At least this was sufficiently far back I can forgive the retcon.
>>280556416
Ask Kubo, since I have no idea. He was the one who wanted Bleach's lore to make no sense.

>villain transforms into an uglyass monster
>is actually weaker than his base form
>that's because he secretly wanted to be defeated
>bankai never used
KUBOOOOOOOOOOO

>>280556352
Rukia said she read it in the textbook speedreader.

>>280556467
Which makes it even worse of a retcon. If it was hearsay at least it could've had plausible deniability, but clearly the Academy is full of retards.

>>280556457
>Aizen survived Gin because Hogyoku keeps evolving
ftfy

>>280556463
And don’t forget that both of them reached the same state, just in different ways. Ichigo accepted his sword and evolved naturally, becoming a sort of Buddha, while Aizen rejected his and evolved artificially through the Hōgyoku. And that ties into the Buddhist legend of Aizen Myō-ō

>Fights those with 100 years of experience and wisdom at the age of 16.
What a special little boy he is, and his hair is orange representing a monk robe.

>>280556330
If any other series did something as retarded as the Lille fight it would be mocked endlessly as well
>lasted like 8 chapters
>character's long hyped power did nothing because the bad guy was a literal god with infinite regen
>D-tier side character who did nothing the entire manga showed up and was given a spank paddle to one shot said bad guy

>>280556421
all flaws are equal
>to defend Kubo’s writing
I don't, I admit all writings have flaws
but your criticisms are simply bad

>>280556456
Jojo has a bunch of fights where the good guy is caught on the backfoot or at some disadvantage I'm pretty sure. Jotaro's whole schtick is that he needs to find a way to get close to win.
I think of Luffy's fight the only one where his fruit really counters his opponent's is Enel's. But even then, it only enables him to fight Enel on an equal playing field.

Most powers in shounen don't even grant an immunity like in those cases. Bleach really is just very egregious with it.

>>280556485
Do you really have so much hateboner that you ignore the textbook and history of SS was rewritten by authority many times as stated by multiple characters?

>>280556500
>while Aizen rejected his
He clearly didn't reject it hard enough, since his powers remain intact even after his Zanpakuto is gone.

>>280556510
JoJo is full of asspulls, dude. You don’t remember Jotaro’s fight against Dio? When he suddenly finds out he can stop time too, out of nowhere?

>>280556513
It was clearly rewritten badly, since it's later clarified the Royal Guard are supposed to be secret, just like the SK, but Rukia apparently knows about them. Also, this is such a fucking cope. Claiming unreliability is the last refuge of imbecilic writer who cannot ever plan anything properly.

>>280556258
God, that was fucking awful. Glad I dropped the manga when they killed the old man.
Which was fucking retarded anyway.

Ruki/a/ reigns

>>280541963 (OP)
Pure fucking Kino. My last hype memory before the manga declined and I dropped it for good.

>IRfags IHfags UHfags so retarded and unbearable that fujos are a welcome change instead
has this happened in any other fandom? that the fujos are the least insane shippers?

>>280556597
>has to deflect to shipping when nobody even brought it up
The asshurt is real lmao

>>280556353
Anyone with AoE can kill ageing grandpa though.
Also changing reiatsu frequency didn't work in the end. Urahara made a stealth path for Grimmjow to deal the fatal blow.

>>280556597
Stress free portion of the fandom.
>No shipper fights
>No powerfagging retards
>Endless content from passionate women
>Mounds of fanfiction

>>280556556
Royal Guards and Soul King aren't secret. What are you talking about? Rukia is also from Four Great Nobles. Why wouldn't she know? Are you retarded?

>>280556615
This shit happens in almost every shonen, and when it’s not some crazy coincidence, it’s an asspull. The real problem with Bleach is the poorly developed characters and the dumb retcons

>>280556461
No wonder you’re confused you can’t even follow a simple conversation

He’s so attractive and cool. Long hair wins. Short hair not so much.

>>280556485
I didn’t know Menos Grande had the ability to show up in SS

>>280556597
Honestly have yet to see more insane shippers than IRfags.

>>280556682
I personally like all Ichigo ships. I wouldn’t mind a threesome between them.

>>280542084
Aizen going into cope mode before having a full schizophrenic meltdown

>>280556081
Speaking of grooming, I just remembered that Zaraki was basically groomed by Unohana lmao

>>280556655
Bot reply? What's the connection between this and my correction post?

>>280541963 (OP)
For me it was the lack of kenpachi zaraki that made me say it was mid tear. I know i hear it all ready being said.. but Here me out. He up to this point was the second or third strongest in this series and they did not have him go against full powered Aizen ? why??

>>280541963 (OP)
>always shitting on the final arc for supposed asspulls
>but this asspull gets a free pass and is called kino

>>280556508
So you forgot about the SnK ending, Nanika asspull, and the entire Sukuna fight?

>>280556510
Yes because conveniences are better than irredeemable asspulls

>>280556508
it wasn't about the fight, it was about the depth and backstory of Kyoraku and who he is, it blows any other Kyoraku fight out of the water

>>280541963 (OP)
The entirety of the Aizen fight was 30 chapters long, over half a year of nonsense and then Ichigo no u's him with an even crazier power up.

>>280556649
>Royal Guards and Soul King aren't secret.
Yes they are. Otherwise Aizen wouldn't have not known (or faked not knowing) despite being a Lieutenant.
>Rukia is also from Four Great Nobles. Why wouldn't she know?
Maybe she should've known better then, instead of spewing that retarded information about the Menos. You're arguing from an untenable position here.
>>280556663
Not an argument.
>>280556679
They sure do. Forgot how Aizen left SS? Doesn't really matter either way, since hunting Menos was apparently a duty of the Royal Guard in the early manga.

everything in bleach is an asspull, even the darling SS arc is full of asspulls like Ichigo achieving his fake bankai in days or his hollow saving his ass from Byakuya, you can't shit on later asspulls if you accept of defend the earlier ones

>>280556864
>or his hollow saving his ass from Byakuya
To be fair, this was foreshadowed with the mask appearing in his clothes.

Mugetsu is the best fujo bait

Why did Ichigo married and fucked a girl that looks like his mother?

>>280556217
most of these are not even plot points

>>280556957
For the same reason most people do. Its crazy but we as humans are programed to pick a life partner that reminds us of are parents. Its actually medically proven, As for why this is so.. no clue. Way past my pay grade.

>>280556991
>why do we feel attracted to what's familiar
Anon it doesn't take a genius to figure out

>>280556835
What does Aizen have to do with the Royal Guard?

>>280556991
>Its crazy but we as humans are programed to pick a life partner that reminds us of are parents.
This is not true at all.
>inb4 Freud
He was a hack.

>>280557019
He doesn't know (or more likely pretends he doesn't) about the Royal Guard despite being a Lieutenant. It's Shunsui, the elderly Captain who trained under Yamamato, who tells him about the Zero Squad. This makes it clear their existence isn't something Shinigami, even high ranking ones, commonly know about.

>>280556991
Do you mean personality wise? Because if your mother is ugly I highly doubt you’d fuck a fat bitch for something like that

>>280556991
is it a human thing only? I know animals are wired to avoid incest in most situations.

>>280557098
Yes mental traits not physical.. Lol sorry should have been more clear on this

>>280556757
Aizen is a bad match up for a brute like Kenpachi and you'd have to make Aizen dumber for it to be even

>>280557023
Again im only spewing out what i was taught many moons ago.. This could be total bs as again past my pay grade and im only saying what i was taught many moons ago..

>>280544371
I like bleach but I agree most fights are super boring,the best part for me it's the character 8nteraction

>>280556835
>believing Aizen
based retard
>Rukia should've known better
She knows they exist. What else would she know? Anyway you are moving the goalpost.

>>280556762
>it would be mocked endlessly as well
Are you implying that those storylines weren't also mocked?

>>280557090
He said he doesn't know anyone promoted to central 46, not he doesn't know what is squad 0.

>>280557133
And even then I don’t believe it because men are going out with whores more and more but the mothers weren't whores themselves when the men were younger

>>280557150
What? no Where Kenpachi lacks he makes up in other areas. Look at the fight against kaname he adapted and overcame. same i feel would go for Aizen. i know he would not win as he can't because hes not the main charter but i feel he would have done a good amount of damage in that arc

>>280555256
>shounen
>shoujo
>genres

>>280557182
It's not about believing Aizen, but believing what his persona outwardly expresses. This is not hard to grasp, anon. And Rukia randomly knew about the Royal Guard through a textbook which told her they're supposed to take of care Menos, which was later retconned, which none of you want to accept as being one.
>>280557206
>not he doesn't know what is squad 0.
It's made clear he doesn't, especially when you consider the next page. Otherwise he would've asked if she went to either C46 or Squad Zero. I can't believe you retards don't even have the reading comprehension to understand something as basic as this.

>>280557133
And even I don’t believe it because men are going out with more whores nowadays than usual but their mothers weren’t like that when they were younger

>>280541963 (OP)
THAT'S THE THINKING OF A ROOSER!!!

>>280557275
>It's made clear
>The page didn't say anything
based retard

>>280557275
>textbook is fake
>this means it's a retcon
your life is a retcon by your definition

>>280557299
The pages don't have to openly say it to make something clear, anon. Especially when manga is a visual medium first, you communicate information through images, and Aizen's question, expression and baffled muttering are enough. Do I really need to handhold you through this?
>>280557324
I never claimed the textbook is fake, it's another retard who said the information was deliberately misleading. I am actually saying the opposite, the textbook was factual, just like any other straightforward exposition, and Kubo retconned stuff. It's extremely simple, but you guys refused to accept that explanation. Reminds me of the retards arguing back and forth about the Espada's power levels all because of Toushiro's idiotic statement about the power levels of VLs.

>>280557275
Aizen at that point already created the Hogyoku and guess what Aizen needed to empower it

>>280557383
What does this have to do with my conversation?

>>280557363
Read comprehension. Why would anyone agree with your textbook isn't fake argument?

>>280556835
You need to create an argument first

>>280557363
Why didn't Aizen ask what is company 0 when he asked what promotion if he didn't know what's royal guard then, retard?

>>280557192
You’re implying there’s nothing more retarded than what you’re complaining about and I provided examples that are far worse

>>280557363
Learn about exclamation mark before talking retard

>>280557393
Aizen is clearly feigning ignorance and you’re acting like he doesn’t know about the Royal Guard

>>280544495
> Aizen created a perfect counter for Yama desu
Yeah, for his zanpakuto. Not for Yama using a top tier hado that should be insanely lethal considering it comes at the cost of a fucking arm.

>>280557413
Because arguing the textbook is fake leads to a a bunch of other issues that need to be addressed (why would she know about the Royal Guard but being mislead on this detail, what are they even teaching Shinigami, especially a Lieutenant like her). There's nothing that solidly suggests the information was presented as fake; the simplest answer is that Kubo changed his mind about what the Royal Guard are and do.
>>280557416
Same to you.
>>280557438
He couldn't have asked because he clearly (pretends) he didn't know. Are you literally retarded?
>>280557449
???
>>280557457
Yes, that's what I said earlier, he's more likely feigning ignorance than genuinely not knowing. Are you even capable of following a conversation?

>>280557485
arm is nothing though. mayuri can probably grow 15 arms with his cancer dose

>>280557549
>nothing that solidly suggests the information was presented as fake
read slower

>>280557576
Maybe you need to think harder instead.

>>280557549
Do you even understand English?
Why didn't Aizen ask about company 0 after Shunsui told him if he pretends to not know?

Also if it's a secret, why would Shunsui just tell him?

>>280557584
says the guy believing aizen

>>280557625
Because the Captain meeting was starting? Asking why something didn't happen is a pointless endeavor; it's already made clear that Aizen acts like he doesn't know about them. And Shunsui tells him because Aizen literally asked. The information isn't completely secret, but it's clearly something the average Shinigami isn't informed about (and for good reasons desu, considering how outraged Aizen genuinely is about the Soul King's existence)
>>280557639
For the last time, it's not about believing Aizen. It's about believing his persona as upcoming and kind Lieutenant. If someone of his rank was supposed to know, he wouldn't have asked.

>>280557549
So what the fuck is your argument then? If Aizen is pretending to not know about the Royal Guard then everything you’re trying to prove is worthless as usual

>>280557745
>the meeting was starting
>it isn't secret but it is secret
took you long enough to come up this cope.

>>280557745
You believed "his persona being retarded means everyone is retarded".
I made it easier to understand for you. Don't act stupid next post.

>>280557759
My original argument was about a retard claiming the Royal Guard needing to take care of Gllian wasn't a retcon (saying the textbook was wrong), which I argued it was, since it makes no sense with what they actually do when they're introduced 450 chapters later.
>>280557771
How is it a cope?
>>280557783
Aizen was never presented as a retard, what are you on about? Not knowing about Squad Zero suggests it's a piece of obscure information.

>>280557830
>Textbook isn't fake because Aizen didn't know a promotion of a person he didn't know
You are so fucking ignorant

>>280555940
It wouldn't have worked anyway because ichigo here has much higher reiatsu, dumbass

>>280557759
If the original world had the Gillian running rampant go ahead and tell everyone who took care of them. And to further my point on Kubo’s foreshadowing he even hinted at BTW’s existence in the first arc

>>280557830
If the original world had the Gillian running rampant go ahead and tell everyone who took care of them. And to further my point on Kubo’s foreshadowing he even hinted at BTW’s existence in the first arc

>>280541963 (OP)
Aizen only lost because he gave Ichigo the keys to the hyperbolic time chamber and then he seethed when he was power cliffed, it was pretty dumb.

>>280557882
The textbook being fake suggests Rukia was being deliberately misinformed about shit as a Lieutenant. Except Aizen pretending to not connect the dots (asking about C46 of all things) then suggests the Royal Realm is supposed to be a vague thing that is not the business of the Shinigami to know about. So you run into issues with that too, but it's less important than the simple fact that Kubo changed his mind about what the Royal Guard since the early chapters. Not accepting this, even though it's very forgivable as a retcon, since it took place so much earlier compared to shit like the SK having limbs, that I find it baffling that people resort to BS like misleading textbooks that overcomplicate things instead of just taking the simple explanation.
>>280557948
Certainly not the Royal Guard, which didn't exist until the SK was imprisoned. Imagine pulling such a reach to somehow fit a silly explanation from the early chapters.

>>280557980
>The textbook being fake suggests Rukia was being deliberately misinformed about shit as a Lieutenant. Except Aizen pretending to not connect the dots (asking about C46 of all things) then suggests the Royal Realm is supposed to be a vague thing that is not the business of the Shinigami to know about.
This makes sense though. Rukia knew about the Royal Guard, but was misinformed about what they do, because knowing their real purpose of guarding a corpse that is the lynchpin of the universe is dangerous information to be spread about. Similarly, Aizen pretends to not know about the Royal Guard being something Captains are promoted to, because again, it's not his business as a Lieutenant (just like Rukia) to know of such things. It's not secret either, but wrapped up in mystery and obfuscation for the sake of the greater good; this perfectly fits how shady SS can be.

You've been nitpicking for several posts about something that isn't even that bad compared to other genuine issues of Kubo's writing.

>>280557980
You don’t even have any confirmation on when they became the Royal Guard but it wouldn’t matter in the slightest because what else would the textbooks refer to them as?

>>280558088
That’s not really the case since Mayuri read about the SK’s left arm so the textbooks were telling the truth

>>280558088
I did bring up the SK being presented as intact (and even implied to be alive) before he's chopped up and killed not even 100 chapters later, so yeah, Kubo has done far worse with retcons.
>>280558108
Are you serious? We have the order in which they became Royal Guards. Only Ichibe and Yhwach along with the SK were shown to exist in the primordial world. What kind of nonsense is this.

>>280558151
Mayuri is a special snowflake, so I'm not surprised he'd know through some obscure tome.

>>280558151
To be fair, the textbook was very vague in simply saying the SK's arms are responsible for "progress" and "stagnation" respectively. Nothing more is stated, so you'd have no idea he was chopped up and those limbs are actually sentient and running about, with one being worshipped as a deity in a forgotten Rukongai district and another ending up in Yhwach's possession after Ichibe "gave" it to him. Although that makes me wonder, why did Ichibe let go of Mimihagi in the first place; is there an explanation?

>>280558275
>is there an explanation?
There isn't. It's just randomly there for zero reason. Gerard's case is even worse, since he has no backstory. Just don't bother with those questions, Bleach is puddle-deep as a story.

>>280556694
>threesome
Aiichihime best threesome

>>280557887
It worked on Soul King Yhwach retard

>>280558645
because he let that happen, dumbass

Mayuri’s drugs worked with Szayelaporro. Why is that?

>>280555854
That shot is from the perspective of a blindfolded servant who doesn't know the truth
When we see the SK missing his limbs Kubo shows that same servant dead, letting us know we aren't under his pov anymore

>>280558810
Why not?

>>280558675
Lmao righttt. You kubo cocksuckers are beyond help.

>>280556015
It takes less than a second for Ichigo to look away

>>280558160
Ouetsu is clearly around Ichibei’s age

>>280558875
And fight Aizen with his eyes close since Aizen could have activated it any moment while holding his zanpakuto?

>>280558875
Ichigo looked away only this time.

>>280558275
They were vague but everything in those textbooks were factual information

>>280558959
What's even the message here btw? Ichigo is empathizing with Aizen's pain?

>>280558929
Yes

>>280558645
The reason why Gin’s poison worked on Aizen was because he didn’t even know about it to nullify it. The same goes for Juha because he was caught off guard

>>280558810
I think Mayuri had made the perfect drug for Szayelaporro.

>>280558978
Ichigo went on to speak with Urahara about how he felt loneliness in Aizen’s sword so he could understand why he was so frustrated with SS

>>280559009
The "battle of reiatsu" thing was always bullshit or else almost no one even among the captains would be able to harm the schutzstaffel at all.

>>280559071
OK, so I guessed right then.

>>280558959
He got to see his new BFF at his highest and at his lowest points of life. He wanted to remember him strong, so he held his last image of him and couldn't stand to see him in the state that he was.

>>280559203
Fujos
vs
>>280558978
Normal people

>>280559076
Gerard is around Mask fucking up Kensei and Rose level without the Miracle, Pernida is barely durable, Lille was caught off guard several times by Shunsui, and Askin let’s himself get his ass kicked to use Death Dealing so it’s not like they were far stronger than the Captains that injured them

>>280558891
Ichibe is at least 1 million years old, since that's how old SS is. All we know about Oetsu is that he is at least 2000 years old. How that makes you firmly believe they're "around the same age" is beyond me.

>>280559367
And it shouldn't be that way after Yhwach used Auswhalen on them if fights were solely determined by reiatsu levels
>Gerard is around Mask fucking up Kensei and Rose level without the Miracle
Even after he was cleaved in half by Bankai Kenpachi he got decimated again by Byakuya and Toshiro

>>280559591
Also another case is Ichigo being to cleave through Yhwach like thrice. I don't care how many power ups he received there's still no way his reiatsu came any close to Soul King yhwach.

>>280559708
Also, let's not forget NaNaNa's being able to affect Aizen post-Hogyoku with his Schrift. It's clear Kubo introduced that Reiatsu cancelling BS just for Aizen to survive Suzumebachi only to completely discard it later.

>>280559767
Tbf they were all under the effect of KS so it might be some BS Aizen made up.
I think the only clear cut example of this is Ichigo not being able to cut Kenpachi when they first met.

>>280559870
Except NaNaNa never saw him before? How would he be under KS? And earlier Mayuri just prevented Aizen from shooting down the Royal Palace. That doesn't make any sense.

>>280559906
I meant when he was supposed to be hit with suzumebachi

>>280556508
It had religious symbolism with Nanao but no westerner would realise that because they don't know what the Ise shrine is.

>>280560076
Ah, that moment. Thinking about it, it's even worse, since it implies Momo somehow tanked Soifon's Shikai unless Aizen swapped with Momo just before Hitsugaya stabbed him. It's completely retarded, even more so when Ichigo just stares like an idiot at the whole charade and doesn't say anything until it's too late.

>>280556991
>>280557014
>>280557023
>>280557098
>>280557133
It's because parents act as our psychological model for understanding everything, and it takes conscious effort to break away from that. Look how many people end up acting just like their parents, even if they didn't like their childhood.
>>280557211
Gen X women were absolutely whores and they talk about it all the time.

>>280541963 (OP)
People hate EVERYTHING. People are morons. People like only the things that will give them social cred. Like everything that people hate, hate everything they like, and you will never be wrong.

>>280560107
Just because something has symbolism behind it doesn't suddenly make it good, or less of an asspull in this case. Ichigo and Orihime also have Tanabata references but nobody cares because their actual interactions are uninteresting and off-screened (no confession, no wedding, etc.)

>>280547935
It's true. every normie jumped off the bleach hype train from tybwfags who gave every episode a 10/10. That didn't fool normies cause there are actual good animes going on, and they realize that bleach fans were full of shit thanks to tybwfags. Good job retards.

>>280560919
The issue with TYBW is the writing, not the animation itself. Imagine if SS arc was remade today; it would be praised as a masterpiece by every casual and their mother.

>>280556105
Anon that's literally his entire bankai gear changing into shikai, his sworf isn't breaking, it's changing back.
Now Renji's bankai on the other hand...

Today is Grimmjow-but-not-a-jobber's birthday, say something nice to him.

>>280555603
And? It serves a specific super-plot convenient purpose and is never mentioned again by Isshin or Ichigo. It's not an interesting story development at all. It didn't even tie into Isshin's backstory the way everyone assumed.

>>280560107
This is as retarded as wan piss fans' cope about how a vague shadow from 700 chapters ago justified the MC being revealed to have eaten the chosen one fruit

>>280541963 (OP)
>Why did people hate it?
the mullets

>>280561750
Burner Finger Four!!!

>>280561750
He lost the only fight that actually mattered though

>>280562153
Mullets are cool. The last thing people would hate about Bleach is the aesthetics. I don't think even the biggest haters could argue that.

>>280546446
I liked Bleach >>280546446
(up to the end of Soul Society) well enough when I watched it in the 00's, and I still liked it>>280546446
the same arcs on a recent rewatch, but this is dogshit.
Who finds this kind of ADHD visual noise appealing?
It's like twirling your action figures around in the air, even though it's a fucking Power Ranger and you know damn well they're not supposed to fly.

>>280562845
Itano Circus can be great when it's well executed, but in this scene it's a complete mess. For some reason, the new Bleach staff rarely brings in talented animators for the production

Lol this thread is still going on

>>280546446
I thought Shinigami couldn't fly, they could only stand on the air. How the fuck is Ichigo flying?

This is how you know that no one really gives a fuck about the lore in Bleach.

The Ginjo vs Ichigo outclasses all TYBW fights and that was made over a decade ago. TYBW is a money sink, pierrot clearly wanted Bleach to make a comeback but Kubo’s poor writing damaged all its potential. I rather them return with a filler arc than…this.
Also that Ichigo vs Aizen fight is still more popular. Ichigo getting that much power in the span of 3 months is awesome to watch but makes no sense, but somehow still better received and remembered than TYBW fights. Speak volumes how much was lost in this new season.

>>280560107
may as well give her a ghostbuster gun because "it has symbolism"

Men have very bad reading comprehension on average, holy shit.

>>280559554
Until you can confirm he is only 2000 years old then I haven’t been proven wrong yet

>>280552216
>aura
Get out

>>280559767
The whole point of his schrift is to analyze reishi

>>280568166
>make a baseless claim
>someone calls you out on it
>"No, you prove me wrong."
Are you retarded?

>>280567252
Yep. That’s why male fandoms are worse outside of crazy shipping fiasco
https://boldscience.org/boys-understand-less-of-what-they-read-than-girls/

>>280562424
He was weakened so it doesn’t count

>>280568467
You’re making a baseless claim as well you retard

>>280556015
>he could have done it at any time but chose not to because lazy plot armor
He didn't do it because once he fused with the hogyoku he stop relying on it and got lazier overall because he got arrogant. It's something Urahara and Gin both call out, stop speed reading/watching. I swear every nitpick in these threads is always a result of that

Happy birthday Ichigo <3

>>280569037
>you claim Ouetsu is "clearly" around Ichibei's age
>someone points out we have no idea how old Ouetsu is, and the only temporal inference one can make is that he's at least 2000 year old
>you demand he confirm he is merely 2000 years old (when that anon never claimed that)
Honestly braindead.

>>280568560
>org
lol
lmao

>>280569224
I'd actually go even a step further and argue you're wrong, since 13 BLADEs tells us Ouetsu is the "Third Officer" of Squad Zero, strongly implying he was the last recruit prior to Kirio. And since we know Kirio was promoted very recently in relation to Bleach's timeline (~110 years ago), it makes perfect sense that Ouetsu would be several times younger than a primordial being like Ichibei, and definitely not "around" his age, unlike say, someone like Baraggan.

Bleach doesn't have good fights

>>280541963 (OP)
After 400 chapters of build-up, people expected something more. That's the way to treat a cocky antagonist in the preliminary round of a tournament arc, or a villain in a 5 chapter arc, not an overarching enemy.

>>280570789
agreed

>>280570789
Renji vs. Byakuya was kino

>>280554312
an attack so strong is breaks a part of god when nothing else did
preny died due to overgrowth
thor to yuha
nothing other then ichigos slash has killed apart of the soul king

>>280556510
part one dio just fucks off when he can kill everyone
part two the whole end fight
part three the whole I can time stop too and a bunch of other shit in this padded mess
part four oh my time stop is shit now lol
part five I am now the most strongest being ever gg and will never be seen again cause I am too strong even the part six has my dad in and I am a jojo I just wont show up
part six is just shit so who the fuck cares

>>280569713
seeing zangetsu in birthday art makes me happy

Kubo's art is incredible. Imagine if Kubo had top tier writing skills. Would've been one of the most impressive shonens ever.

One thing I can't stand is the matchup thing. It's cop out for Kubo's inability to draw good fight choreography. You know why Kubo always has Ichigo using Getsuga Tensho? It's because Ichigo has more panel time and in every fight of his he would have to draw more complicated ways of sketching out a conflict instead of boom boom sword slash explosion. It's the mark of laziness. Yet filler arcs when they get away from Kubo's manga manage to have better choreographed fights like in the Murasa Ichigo fight, he uses a kick to get the advantage.

>>280541963 (OP)
LOL some guy who was reading Bleach for the first time was waiting for this fight, and posted minutes ago "Fuck Bleach."

>>280574633
Go back

>>280541963 (OP)
Bleach has always been about style. The author has always been about style. His characters have always been stylist. There has never been a time when either haven't been about style. People who can't understand Bleach also don't understand style. You can't look at a Bleach chapter and go "Yep, naruto vs pain, Bugs Bunny, 3D Pixar movies, tictok dancing time" because style doesn't require much effort other than looking cool.

To put it simply, they lack style and therefore ugly.

>>280541963 (OP)
It was pure trash, as an early 2000s teen this would appeal to you (I know it did to me). But when you grow past the cool factor you realize that it's cringe as fuck, with Ichigo playing the emo brooding retard that's supposedly a serious character.
It's made worse by the fact that you are supposed to accept the fact that Ichigo somehow asspulled himself into becoming stronger than Aizen who's powered by essentially a soul king battery that endlessly powers him up everytime he gets hurt, when previously Aizen without merging with the Hogyoku was more than a match for Ichigo.

>>280575402
Shonen is for little boys. Which is the point.

>>280546446
I fucking hate Uryu's volstandig. Kubo should've designed something else or just simply use his anniversary gacha form in it's place instead of giving him glowing sleeves and some shitty paper planes flying around him.

>>280575624
Kubo art is getting worse in the design department. TYBW was just ugly all around and lazy.

>>280575186
>You can't look at a Bleach chapter and go "Yep, naruto vs pain, Bugs Bunny, 3D Pixar movies, tictok dancing time"
what the FUCK does this even mean

>>280575746
This so much. I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt since this was a large as fuck cast in this arc.

>>280546530
>the colors are abysmal
the colors are the only part of the new bleach season thats an objective improvement over the earlier ones

>>280575976
No those bright colors don’t fit the mellow theme of BLEACH. Bleach is a bleak show with slice of life and heavy black and white usage. It doesn’t work to have schizo colors all over the place.

Rewatching Old Bleach, It feels like a good old relaxing shonen to watch. And the Aizen/Ichigo parallel is great, the arrancars were a step up from the shinigami in terms enjoyability, I felt the stakes despite the lack of deaths...etc.
The new show is just poor all over. It's not even Bleach anymore in story, fights, or look.

>>280576579
The lack of deaths for the good guys doesn't hit you until the end because there are lots of fake-outs. Meanwhile, in TYBW you have Lille randomly dropping Shinigami like flies or Unohana's retarded sacrifice that really felt like they had no impact.

Ichigo going to Hogwarts is the next Bleach movie, screencap this

>>280543249
Thing is... Isn't that pretty much just a repeat of Vasto Lorde Ichigo vs Ulquiorra?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1TYrx_RIY0

OLD BLEACH HAD SOUL

Haschwalth…

>>280578362
Literally who

THREAD ABOUT TO DIE

>>280577253
some kind of distant epilogue of the human cast attending shinigami academy after dying would actually be kind of neat

>>280580857
Actually that is a good idea. Ichigo and his friends attend academy with Ichigo representing Harry Potter's character I guess.

>>280541963 (OP)
I remember when I read the manga when this came out, I was screaming out of excitement.
Then when Opening 13 hit, I was waiting for it to be animated.
https://youtu.be/5emM3JGI5JA?si=iGu_DF_UO_Rr0Zsc&t=78
I was a kid back then though.

>>280568203
blud is mad for no reason fr

>>280575746
OG Gotei is good though

>>280577260
no, Ulquiorra was being surprised all the time

>>280575746
he sometimes draw ugly characters like Omaeda
it's meant to be ugly on purpose

it's shit

>>280581530
your criticism

>>280577671
Kubo's manga cinematic style doesn't really translate to anime like happened in TYBW anime.
This is one of the many cases where improvising in anime is better than following manga style faithfully.

Is Grimmjow or Uquiorra more popular?

>>280541963 (OP)
Is because the powerscale got broken in that point.
>aizen can't feel ichigo reiatsu.
>tatsuki can't feel ichigo reiatsu but can feel aizen reiatsu without issue.
And that's what bother some because isshin, urahara, yoruichi, gin none of them could feel aizen reiatsu but ichigo before training could feel it then you have tatsuki that never trained was able to feel aizen reiatsu (hinting she had same potential as ichigo).

>>280581616
What cynematic style? He just started making shit up in new anime so fujoshis won't complain while removing most of the girls or reducing them along removing the jokes in the manga.
That one is a shit anime, i won't deny looks good but has too many issues to be considered faithfull to manga.

>>280581294
wouldn't the Harry Potter character be the one that knows nothing about magic, and has things explained to him?
that's be one of the three tertiary humans, preferably the karate tomboy

>>280583145
the manga version is still awful so nothing would have changed.

>>280583077
speedreader

Reading comprehension is in the toilet. This is why you niggas are so confused about the story and wonder why something doesn't add up powerwise.

>>280583077
Also, no spirit crush.
I guess Ichigo was just holding back on Aizen. That was nice of him.

>>280587150
He is so handsome and dreamy, best looking shonen protagonist of his time.

>>280587296
Indeed.

What did Kubo mean by this

>>280587324
Dilfchigo's hair looks good but unfortunately that one panel from 686 looked really fucked up

>>280587338
When Kazui stays with his aunts and Orihime pulls out the cowprint bikini

So no new drawing for Ichigo's birthday from Kubo?

>>280587324
he really was an angsty little shit as a teen
look at that goofy smile as an adult

>>280587434
motherless behavior

>>280543249
>thus stopping the effect of Kyoka Suigetsu without even knowing it
Ichigo was never under the effect of Kyoka Suigetsu, that's why he was the only one who could stop Aizen

>>280556086
>we've never actually seen the ritual, speedreader
ironic you call him a speed reader, we actually do. We see him do it to Baraggan in a flash back. He just takes out his sword and says "hey look here for a sec. kthanx" and that's it. He could have done it to Ichigo

>>280587465
Does this mean that when he married Orihime he got a new mommy and that's why he smiles more?

Bro why the fuck is this thread picking up again

>>280587532
Ichigo's birthday

>>280556086
>>280587507
to be fair in the scene he does say the name of his sword so he probably has to say it to activate it, but we most certainly see the "ritual"

Complete hypnosis should have been Aizen's bankai because what can his actual bankai possibly do that's more broken than his shikai?

>>280587525
Wouldn't you?

>>280587559
I think Kubo legitimately doesn't have anything in mind for Aizen's bankai, same with Yoruichi's zanpakuto since he never had any intentions to show them.

>>280555425
Kek that is actually idiot genius type shit. Makes me laugh to this day

Since it's his birthday what do you like about Ichigo?

>>280587685
For a shonen MC, he's smart and quiet, kind of grounded

>>280587685
As I got older, I LOVE him. He’s so relatable ughh I appreciate him so much.

>>280587685
I'm not sure

>>280562671
I'm not a fan of half of the negro characters designs

>>280587685
His cocky attitude.

>>280587685
He makes a nice rug

>>280555466
Kill yourself foid

>>280587685
I want to fuck him so badly.

>>280542084
Kubo had this knack for delivering surprises in a stylish way. Even though we'd already learnt time and time again, like for the 10th time in a row, that Ichigo is a special snowflake existence of a character, this scene at the time managed to force the readers to make the shocked pikachu face. Even on the 11th attempt, somehow it still felt new like nobody saw it coming.

>>280587556
They were so afraid of IchiRuki autists that they had to hide Orihime's arm off screen from showing physical contact with Ichigo. It is hilarious how stupid and fragile crack shippers are.

>>280541963 (OP)
What the fuck is up with Kubo's fascination with mullets? Looks like fucking shit

>>280589302
nah

>>280589372
You can't even see the tail end of the mullet in that picture

>>280589372
They look cool when drawn by Kubo

>>280589415
Aizen straight up looking trans here

>>280589423
He was transforming.

>>280589415
I just noticed that his robes are flying in the form of a swastika

>>280589451
Is that the true power of the Hogyoku?

>>280555572
No I've never been in one. Certainly not in one with magic swords and spells.

>>280588542
Ichigo should have won…