Thread 280583640

Why is this man so hated? He's pretty much the typical college teen that is socially deficient enough to use all his money on a pretend girlfriend. The funny thing is that he's more socially adjusted than many of the people watching the show

>Loved by his grandmother
>was able to at least get a gf without paying for it.
>Has a girl simping for him

I feel like he has the "shinji effect" where when they make a character TOO relatable with some of the things we don't like about ourselves, we lash out.

He is the most retarded faggot in the history of retarded faggots.

>>280583640 (OP)
>Too relatable
I don't know about you but I wouldn't simp +20k for pussy especially if I wasn't at least getting head. Anyone with half a brain would go for Ruka
>But I'm American
Okay? Just age her up to legal in your state then problem solved, she's legal in Japan so it's fair game.

>>280583640 (OP)
>Why is this man so hated?
it's this
>he's more socially adjusted than many of the people watching the show
someone like him could feasibly date a Chizuru but /a/non can't

I don't dislike characters I relate to though

>>280583905
Ruka is over 18 in the story now.

>>280583640 (OP)
male mcs are not allowed to have flaws or be naive

>>280584021
Age of consent is 20+ in the states now

>>280583640 (OP)
>man
That's a cuck.

>>280583691

I don't think he's dumb he's just a massive simp, and a gooner, and weak.

>>280584220
Only to pedos in denial and roastoids who wish they were still 20.

>>280583640 (OP)
real answer? Kazuya is a insecure little man chasing after a rental girl that has some form of bpd. if you can get past those character flaws then Kazuya is fine.
the real problem with Kanokari is the sahara desert levels of stretched out pacing and the main cast of girls unironically being worse off characters than Kazuya himself.
joke answer? he is a cuck

>>280583640 (OP)
I hate you and everyone who conflates "relatable" with "insufferable, pathetic wimp."

I kind of memory holed this when season 1 didn't go anywhere and I didn't feel like watching more of the same shit. All I know is I love Ruka

>you can't handle my totally-not-a-self-insert for coping faggots because, uh, he's like, soooo, flawed, you know, like you...b-but he's also WAY better than you too and you're just jealous and-
Get new material, you loser.

>>280584115

Yup they have to be perfect or boring stoic everyman characters sadly.

>>280584415

Great answer. I'm hoping the anime fixes the pacing of the manga but I get stretching the show out to make more money.

I mean of course but most attractive women have some type of cluster B personality disorders, that just comes with the territory.

>>280583640 (OP)
He picked the worst girl. It's literally that simple.

>>280584470
This. Tells you everything about the kind of people who use it that way.

>>280584538
I kind of want to give this shit a try, just for her. But I'm fairly certain I'll just get angry with the pacing and the characters' attittudes.

>>280583640 (OP)
They're mad that he wastes his hard earned pesos on prostitutes.

>>280583640 (OP)
I loathe this idea that a protagonist being a complete doormat is justifiable under the guise of him being "relatable". Kei Kurono, Kakeru Kurosawa, and Tatsuhiro Satou all had major aspects of their character I identified with and their personalities still went beyond being completely spinless.

>>280584415
Yeah, if he had other things to him aside from the rental gf stuff, maybe he wouldn't be so bad. But it's pretty much the only thing he has.

>>280584774
Basically, as long as a series is set in highschool, it's impossible for a character to really be interesting. There are some exceptions, but for the most part it just has the character fall upon a few tropes.

You can't have a character with a storied past who has made mistakes and learnt from them, and whose past choices inform their present ones, when your characters are all children.

I don't know what the fuck the point of this story is. Welcome to the NHK at least talks about depression, loneliness, feelings of uselessness, etc.
This just shows a simp and his unrequited feelings from a prostitute. What's being said here? Is it a statement on society and women? Is it a statement on the male loneliness epidemic?

>>280584774
Kazuya is many things but spineless is not one of them. Do you even read the manga?

>>280585072
This. He's dickless and brainless.

>>280583640 (OP)
>more socially adjusted
>literally every panel is him blushing or having a spastic fit

>>280583640 (OP)
this rancid piece of shit show got an anime?

the coming generations are cooked
Japan is actually retarded

>>280585197
Daily reminder that not a single society in history has become technologically advanced without at the same time putting their women on a pedestal.

>>280585197
The manga was fun for the first half, ngl.

I would actually read this manga is showed the whores calculating which simps to use and which clients they have to target for their life plans. Like, have the main girl take out a pen and paper and plot it out, showing her considering ways to improve the MC’s simp potential, ie, getting a better job, grooming him into a safety net in case she fails at her aim of becoming a rich client’s wife etc. Just bring some pessimism to counter the ultra-fag JP romcom fake harem mono romance energy.

>>280584739

It's not even a prostitute. He doesn't even get sex he is just getting emotional support and a date.

>>280584681

I mean he fell for her. Plus she has the nicest rack so I GET why he picked her.

>>280584720

It's basically "reality tv" in anime/manga form. It's not "good" but it's entertaining if that makes sense.

>>280584774

OP, the thing is he does a TON of cringe things that you could see yourself doing. That one episode where he stalks Mizuhara when he thought she was on an actual date was *chef's kiss*

>>280584997


Look at how popular OF is and you're just getting the pics. Men would DEFINITELY pay for dates with women and nothing physical happens. Also the main character for RaG isn't a NEET because he has a job and is in college, so as bad as he is he is still a bigger contributor to society than the NHK protag.

>>280585305

Most women that are actually hot won't mess with all that. Theyll just go for the guy that's already made.

>>280583640 (OP)
Don't hate him much but its painful to see him make so many financially retarded choices and think only with his dick. The amount of times his actual personality shines through are minuscule compared to how much is spent with his penis going on and on and on about how sexy and perfect Chizuru is.
Take him away from women, make him go to a Buddhist temple or something to exercise the demons and he wouldn't be so hated.

>>280585408
Sure, it’s not realistic but at least give us some entertaining characterizations instead of “Hi I’m the main girl of a JP romcom so therefore I’m the hottest and pure virgin love interest of the MC tee-hee”.

>>280585427

MOST men are controlled by their dick especially at that age. So many of us were chronic gooners like him that were lonely and wanted a gf, many dudes unironically don't even see the point of being alive if they're not getting sex or in a relationship. He represents the weakness we have all felt at some point.

I do feel like if the story ended with him decided that he should go monk mode and ignore women, it would be an amazing twist and redeem his character.

>>280585504
Not him, and this has been said a thousand times but the story isn't even focused on that aspect. It would be fine if it focused on that aspect, about how hard it is being a man who doesn't have success with women. But this series doesn't focus on that.

>>280585490
That's what every guy wants. In America we try to make love interests "realistic", but why the fuck not just indulge our fantasies?

>>280585504
This is why temple discipline needs to be mandatory. Demons, demons in every man.

>>280585545
That's the thing, it doesn't HAVE to. That motivation is the driver of everything he does. The reason they show dude gooning is because that's a part of his character. They don't explore those dynamics because this show isn't supposed to be deep it's reality tv, but the themes are there.

>>280585603
>it doesn't HAVE to
It does though, hence why it's so hated.

Like have the main girl considering her options and thinking to herself “he’s safe, maybe I should get into a private contract with him on the side to get more money…? No, there’d be too much conflict with agency work….what if I could make him accept meetings when I’m open, would he be okay with that long-term and if not what then…?” Carefully considering her options for maximizing her value and utility from her simps.

Have her be frustrated with having to look at an ugly client. “They money is good, but can I do something about having to look at him all the time? Could I convince him to do movie dates or other types of outings where I can naturally avoid looking at him for most of the time…? I don’t have to take his jobs but the money is decent….damn…”

>>280585686

I think the biggest issue is that she actually does have feelings for him but doesn't want a relationship to jeopardize her job. She can't just heartlessly use and abuse him since she actually has feelings for him.

That's why her being a virgin is important for her character development. Usually women get their hearts broken by their first love and pretty much every guy they date after that is getting less of her.

>>280585427
Adding to this, even Chizuru wouldn't be so unlikable if there wasn't a constant annoying drone about how sexy and beautiful and pure she is.
She's just a pain in the ass, but it portrays her as being ~beautifully indecisive~ because even the author can't think beyond his penis.

>>280585810

He and the author are complete simps about her but it explains why he uses his money on her. He wouldn't be spending all that money on her if he wasn't OBSESSED.

>>280584774
Kurono was a chad in remission.

>>280583640 (OP)
Anime fans doesn't like good writing, don't ever try to bring good wriitng to anime.

>>280583640 (OP)
He is hated by those who are used to self-insert in anime characters. And this character ruins their power fantasy attempt because he's a guy who won't win the girl and it hurts them to self-insert.

>>280583640 (OP)
What grandmother doesn't love her loser grandson? It's why scammers call saying that they are their grand kid and they are in jail and need money to old ladies. Doesn't mean he's socially adjusted.

>>280583640 (OP)
Yeah, I never imagined my crush getting fucked by another man and get hard while crying. He's not relatable at all.

>>280586230

Yup

>why are so many characters boring self inserts

Now it's

>why is this guy so flawed.

>>280586230
He's hated by people that don't like annoying spergs.

>>280583640 (OP)
>The funny thing is that he's more socially adjusted than many of the people watching the show
That's not true.
>wasted all his money to the point he didn't have a place to live
>he can't stop lying
>he can't see the good things in his life and let a bitch toy with his feelings and he can't let himself be angry about it
>he will never learn
The only reason people accept him is because Reiji promised them that he would get the bitch.

>>280583640 (OP)
>loved by his grandmother
LOL LMAO. He's THIS close to getting his ass disowned. She criticizes him for bullshit constantly

every person who has enabled this shit to get four seasons of anime adaptations needs to be lined up against a wall and shot.

>>280586842
jesus christ, it's a piece of fiction. you can't genuinely want people murdered over it?
tf is wrong with you?

>>280586949
the world would be a better place for it.

>>280587022
Underboob is beautiful

>>280583640 (OP)
I dont hate him. I hate the story he's made to participate and the lessons it teaches.

>>280584739
It would have been better if it was an actual prostitute, he would have at least been having sex.

>>280583640 (OP)
If someone finds Kazuya relatable then I feel really sorry for them.

>>280587793
I think that's the real issue. He jumps off boats and ignores girls when they say no, readers know he is more of a man than they are so it ruins their self insert.

>>280583905
You meant Mami but we all make mistakes

>>280584115
After 300 chapters you shouldn’t be regressing this badly. Do you know what the term character development means?

>>280584993
If a character’s experiences is what gives them depth than what better way is there to showcase this then using the MC’s time in high school to see those mistakes firsthand?

>>280587937
your idea of character development is calling her a whore and walking away, when he's hopelessly in love with her and would never act like that

>>280588042
My idea of character development is maning the fuck up and getting her in bed months ago. Stop wasting the money on the bitch and manipulate her to open her legs up it’s that simple. Or he could go to the superior route and fuck the girls who truly love him. At this point he doesn’t even truly love Chizuru because he’s not trying to give her what she wants in the slightest

>>280585305
Why don’t you just read the other rental girlfriend/host club manga?

>>280588311
>he’s not trying to give her what she wants in the slightest
which is?

>>280587864
I’m a chad so I’ve never had that problem.

>>280588417
Chads just don't sell very well so they try to compensate by making him think dumb things which have no impact on his chad status in the other characters eyes.

cuckoldry is a good thing actually.

>>280588436
When the only one getting cucked is Ruka then yes it is.

>>280583640 (OP)
>why is this character so hated? He's literally me and a Chad and better than the people watching this show
I'm sorry anon I don't fantasize about other men fucking my girlfriend. Contact me if you ever get one though.

>>280585072
They don't even watch the anime.

>>280588619
Damn thats the first time they kissed right. Right?

>>280589071
yeah

>>280589139
copium

>>280583640 (OP)
That's why he is so hated.
It's like seeing a college friend continuously make bad decisions.

>>280589537
Everything he has done was correct though.

>>280589557
His bank account says otherwise.

>>280589601
That just got him closer to his wife.

He spent like 300k on escorts as well as a ton of his free time to fix their personal issues and didn't even get to cop a feel from said escorts.

>>280589684
That's wrong he spent 15 trillion actually.

>>280589684
He was making 150k out of high school?

>>280584720
>But I'm fairly certain I'll just get angry with the pacing and the characters' attittudes.
Someone should make a new picture like picrel but for characters
Kazuya is always retarded. Not just a simp but fucking retarded and coward. The manga would be half long if he would have just tell Chorizo he actually loves her on the first chapters
Ruka will unconditionally love Kazuya
Chorizo suffers the consequences of going out with thousands of men previous step of cock carrousel
Mami is basically a secondary character now and not even the author know what is she scheming
Author forgot about Sumi and along Mini both only exist to advance the plot because both MC are incapable of doing so

>>280590021
Shut up you retarded esl

>>280588319
Name five

>>280590252
He probably just meant: Ashita, Watashi wa Dareka no Kanojo

>>280585305
she's just doing it to supplement her income for college and acting classes, it seems like she doesn't really care all that much about her clients, and if she does it's part of her contract. her goal was always the acting thing and it was never really to secure a man, in fact i could go so far as to say this manga isn't about rental girlfriending at all.

>>280583640 (OP)
>BECUZ HE'S LIEK U
Kill yourself.

>>280584720
As a Rukafag, she is simultaneously the best and worst aspect of the series, the best because she is the best girl and I love her, the worst because she gets humiliated and mistreated all the fucking time by literally everyone to a point that its infuriating, she also has less and less screentime has the manga goes on
If you want to watch it anyway I recommend just reading the manga because you can just speedread the filler and watch the parts you care in the anime

hes the best

>>280583640 (OP)
He makes dumb faces and his mind is drowned in negative thoughts.
>Loved by his grandmother
Bitch treats him like shit, but Kibe saw her praying for him once so we're supposed to believe she secretly cares
>was able to at least get a gf without paying for it.
He got two and both were crazy

>>280583691
He’s hilarious though, how come comedy manga are never this funny though

>>280586949
estrogen filled emotional impulse

>>280583691
Mizuhara two seconds later: Wow this is an S-tier boyfriend, better pimp him out to my other girlfriends.

>>280592576
>made him date Ruka
>made him date Sumi
This is how she makes her real money, just wait for the reveal.

>>280586736

That just means she loves him if she didn't she wouldn't say anything.

>>280586842

It's funny how so many anime is just advertisements for the manga and we never end up with a season 2, but this will get multiple seasons EASY

>>280583640 (OP)
Nigger you didn't even read this trash.

>>280592968
nobody does, the manga is just a meme

>>280587906
your parents did a mistake

>>280589601
Bro he did the right thing. What the fuck is even the point of having money if you aint got no hoes? The whole point of guys wanting money is to have something to attract hoes with.

>>280592968

You only read a series after you're done with the anime. If you watch and then read you'll usually get mad that they didn't directly adapt X from the manga. Besides if they're going to fix the pacing in the anime I think I'll do that.

>>280593113
>if they're going to fix the pacing in the anime
They won't it will be the swimsuit season (both cours) after they are done with adapting everything between the premiere and Hawaiians and there isn't that much there.

>>280584997
I think this was supposed to be a commentary on male loneliness and the depths that some would go for a crumb of attention, but at some point the author began to actually self-insert and enjoy humiliating Kazuya. There's no fucking way Kazuya wouldn't have cut his losses by now, it's all the author's self humiliation ritaul through the character.

>>280593180
>the tall rich assertive man with a big dick who is loved by 5 different women
Oh man that would be so embarrassing, glad that's not me.

>>280588357
Frankly? Her grandparents. She wants what they had and they were her only frame of reference for a healthy relationship as well as her only caring relatives

>>280593265

He has positive attributes but he's still a sperg. Some dudes think if they had X that they would have it made but it's not true.

>>280593892
Just watch his confession in the new season, he has never had a problem with communicating.

>>280583640 (OP)
>im so lonely i just want a girlfriend
>but not one that likes me i want the one i have to pay for and is addicted to lying
what does he like about chizuru other than she being pretty what possitive quality has she shown that wasnt purely transactial before like 300 chapters?

>>280594940

They live next to each other which is fate, their grandmothers like each other, her personality, etc.

Also you overestimate how much a woman has to do to "earn" attraction besides being pretty.

The girl that likes him he doesn't like. Dating someone just because they like you and you don't like them is unfair for both of you. I think most people get mad at this because it's the choice THEY chose (dating someone that liked them over the person they actually liked and they regret it)

>>280594940
You don't seem to read this manga so I will tell you the answer, nothing he only likes her test, ass and face. This isn't even an exaggeration btw, there isn't a single pannel where he describes something that he likes about Chizuru that it's unique of her, in fact he cannot even explain why he likes her

>>280592576
>escort manga was about prostitution all along
No way

>>280583640 (OP)
anon whether there are people ITT right now that gave a bunch of money to a whore who constantly used them or not doesn't change the fact that this guy exists to humilate and mock every single human being who would. theres no reason not to despise or disrespect him.

>>280583640 (OP)
OP is a faggot.

>>280595218

Sounds like the typical gooner simp.

>>280597881
Kazuya isn't even a goober, he's just a simp with occasional perv fantasies

>>280595218
You don't really seem to read it either.
>>280597881
He is so hardcore deeply in love, very much pathetically so. The manga never ceases in shoving it down your throat.

>>280583640 (OP)
>Why is this man so hated?
>socially deficient enough to use all his money on a pretend girlfriend.
You just answered your own question, ten seconds after you asked it.

>>280598073
But those scenes happen very rarely, on his real date he couldn't even explain why he liked Chizuru and just said that he just likes her

>>280589150
Ironic statement coming from a kanokari reader.

>>280599217
I mean you haven't been really paying attention.
She's just nice and is driven, simple as that. He does say these things constantly.

>>280598073
>She's always been trying to drive herself harder!
See, this might be meaningful if she was in academia or had a real job or something. Instead she's a rental girlfriend. So what's Kazuya actually admiring about her here? That she takes her job of hooking simps (like him) super seriously?

>>280599520
He says almost nothing in that page except that she's amazing. This is exactly the problem. He can't articulate what's so great about her in any meaningful way. He gushes over her doing all sorts of mundane actions, so there's no impact to his words. Bitch could blink and Kazuya would call it the most perfect blink ever, only Chizuru could blink so beautifully.

>>280600199
She acts, anon. The rental thing was just a means for income and it's an easy job for her to do. Almost the entire middle of the story was him admiring her dream to be in a film.

>>280600340
>This is exactly the problem
Kek that's the writer's game. He could easily say these things out loud and make her swoon to high heavens but he doesn't and that's why their relationship/non-relationship keeps going.

Just curious, does the manga ever show the agency girls dating other clients? I mean, REALLY showing them — their faces, their conversations, flirting, all that? I bet you it doesn’t. JP romcoms don’t go that hard, the reader has to be coddled like a baby simp I bet even if the manga’s central premise involves compensating dating.

>>280600831
Only on flashbacks

>>280600831
>does the manga ever show the agency girls dating other clients
In Sumi’s spinoff yes and picrel was a small arc of Chizuru’s date with a different client.
>JP romcoms don’t go that hard
Yea it’s a shounen manga of course they won’t go that in depth with the girl’s experience.

>>280588357
A confident man who can communicate with her properly. Do you think she’d be pushing him away if he wasn’t cowardly and composed while displaying his affections for her?

>>280593265
Yeah that is a huge accomplishment but until he fucks one of them or has an orgy it’s just an empty flex

>>280597974

Not goober, gooner. He jerks off early in the day. He is impulsive

>>280586230
Anon, "Muh Self Inserters" is cope. As a person that watches romance to ship characters, this guy is a waste of fucking screentime.

>>280600975
>uses his dads monger account
>dates girls twice his age
>pimps her out for his youtube channels
>has Sumi gained because of he calls her cute
He is the most based character Reiji has ever made

>>280583640 (OP)
>I feel like he has the "shinji effect"
You could strip Shinji of all his extraordinary elements in his life (being a child soldier, an abusive father, etc) and he would still be an interesting character and well liked.
You could put Kazuya in Shinji's place and he would still come off as an annoying whinny faggot

>shinji
>well liked
pfffAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>280606008
This isn't 2010 anymore, most people that watched Eva liked him to some degree

>>280606233
who is this most people? I have never met anyone in my life who liked Shinji. Only the super-fans that are willing to forgive his pussy ways for the plot, like Shinji. Nobody else. Get in the robot and shut up.

>>280603057
……………..her date was with an old lady? Fuck, Japan is a joke I don’t know what to say.

>>280605984

A lot of people hate Shinji though even though he's a flawed but amazing character

>>280583640 (OP)
He's unable to learn which is one of the most infuriating traits out there

>>280607137
I found more Shinj fans nowadays to be honest, but still my point is that Shinji would still be a good character if you were to put him into Kazuya's situation but not the contrary

>>280603205
yes you dumb fuck

>>280583640 (OP)
He's literally me i remember jerkin it to my ex all pathetically n shit in college I hate him

>>280583640 (OP)
I hate protags that are timid weaklings that have no backbone.

>>280585329
>the thing is he does a TON of cringe things that you could see yourself doing.
>That one episode where he stalks Mizuhara when he thought she was on an actual date
I... can't see myself doing that

>>280583691
Why is Kazuya the only one who realizes the irony that she's only a rental girlfriend? She's not his real girlfriend, he pays her money to pretend, so he doesn't care if his friend also rents her. How pathetic would he be if he got possessive over a rental?

>>280609587
The funny part is that he has done this at last twice

>>280592576
Not like they're official.

>>280606233

Nah, I remember I said he was my favorite character and not Asuka and someone IRL got mad at me.

>>280587864
>He jumps off boats
What does that mean? Metaphorically or are you talking about when he actually jumped off a boat to save Mizuhara?

>>280609398


Lots of people relate to him that's why he's hated

Also Mami (his ex) is one of the most realistic depictions of a woman I've seen in anime.

>>280611329
Who the fuck thinks that Kazuya is relatable? I can understand finding him relatable when he spills his spaghetti, but overall? I would rather eat lead

>>280611329
>Also Mami (his ex) is one of the most realistic depictions of a woman I've seen in anime.
>Has a miscarriage
>Immediately goes after Kazu
I don't know bro

>>280611961
>>Immediately goes after Kazu
She doesn't love him.

>>280589139
canon next chapter

>>280606233
No bro, most people either don't give a shit about him or think he's a little bitch.

>>280611588


Lots of beta male simps in Japan that's why the birthrate is so low

>>280612289

Of course but she can use him.

>>280583640 (OP)
>He's pretty much the typical college teen that is socially deficient enough to use all his money on a pretend girlfriend.
That is not typical behavior at all. This failed human should be killed.

why cant she be real
ill do anything for a gf like chizuru

>>280613247

Most neets on this board don't even have a job or have an ex, he's higher on the social status pool than them.

>>280611961
>>Has a miscarriage
>>Immediately goes after Kazu
>I don't know bro
What's the problem? Is it not realistic for a girl who suffered a miscarriage to then go after their ex?

>>280595187
>Also you overestimate how much a woman has to do to "earn" attraction besides being pretty.
My personal experience in daily life, though perhaps this is because I'm over 30, is that most women aged 18-45 fail at this completely.

>>280614510
So you still want to see an attractive personality?

>>280583640 (OP)
if simping for prostitutes is relatable then that's a (You) problem

>>280588537
I hate his faggot ass squiggly mouth

>>280583640 (OP)
Zoomers see themselves in him too much and the reflection of their own flaws causes them to feel hatred for Kazuya because they hate themselves

>>280614798

Yup it's that simple dude is too realistic.

>wastes millions of yen on a girl that won't fuck him
>would be ok with her dating, kissing, or even fucking other men as long as it's part of the job
>"AbsoluteChad"
>"relatable"
>OP uses reddit spacing throughout the whole thread
bait or mental retardation
call it

Kazuya's oneitis would make more sense if he didn't have a girl who threw herself at his sad ass and he just ignored.
If anything Kazuya at the very beginning of the series was a much more normal guy than he is now. He's stuck in a completely destructive codependent "relationship" with a money(but not dick)-sucking prostitute, and nobody is breaking the cycle it just keeps going and going and going I swear Ruka needs to show up with a big-ass knife and send somebody on a trip to Canada.

>>280616014
>and send somebody on a trip to Canada.
Why Canada?

>>280615787
Probably just southeast Asian

>>280600975
Wait is that a zing? Is he her soulmate?

>>280600831
>does the manga ever show the agency girls dating other clients?
The manga gets out of it's way to never show Chizuru with any of her real clients: we get to see her with Kazuya's buckteeth bro, Kazuya's ex and even Kazuya's grandmother, but it's never a regular client. We saw her once(1) with another client, but we don't even see his face, but it was just about Kazuya distracting his bros, so they don't see his girlfriend with another dude. I think there were some out of context panels of a client, but nothing that would matter.

We see a couple of Ruka's clients in her re-introductory chapter and even interact with one, but it's just seeing the guy bail on her when she is being catcalled and the perpetrators pitying her for it.

In the spin off only Sumi gets an actual character to rent her and he has a face, name and even his own dreams and motivations. He even rents her a second time.

Mami isn't a rental, but it's worth mentioning her first boyfriend got a name(kind of), but not a face. Her fiance got both, so maybe he'll become a character later on.

Mini despite being now a character with one of the most screen time only has some faceless friends.

>>280583640 (OP)
If spending thousands of dollars just to be in a fake relationship is relatable to you, you have bigger problems to worry about than people feel about Kazuya.

>>280583691
>girlfriend
>never fucked her
did he even kiss her, I'm obviously not reading this shit.

>>280618649
No he hasn't kissed her, she kissed him though.

>>280618672
that fag knows how to draw, is this chapter 1209924012?
Can't believe that people paid to read this.

>>280618754
Yeah it's a very nice upskirt shot.

>>280583640 (OP)
>loved by his grandmother
She's berated him so hard throughout all of his life that he developed inferiority complex and a crave for validation from women. Fucking hell, she replaced him with a brown filipino exchange student (the main reason the cohab arc was a thing in the first place).
>was able to get a gf
Mami was playing with him, and even then he managed to fuck it up by being too pushy about sex and kids (because Kazuya is only valuable for his grandma if he gives her grandkids and she's been quite naggy aboit the topic).
>has a girl simping for him
More like a girl simping for her own heartbeats.

>>280609587
>step one, be attractive
she liked it though

>>280583640 (OP)
He's going to go 22yo in 2 weeks in-universe yet he still behaves like a 7yo kid from a dysfunctional family. When he wants to look cool, he looks pathetic instead, when he takes the initiative, he gets too carried away and comes off as someone brash, impulsive and arrogant, when he gets the willpower to keep going, he comes off as irrational and stubborn over perseverant, when he tries to show affection, he comes off as a creep instead of someone overly affectionate and when he gets what he wants, he gets too cocky and full of himself.
And no matter how many times he gets reality checks, he simply doesn't learn a single shit.

>>280619229
Is the reality check supposed to be the part where the hot girl sticks her tongue in his mouth?

>>280583640 (OP)
>Why is this man so hated? He's [a cuck]
There's your answer.

>>280619266
Nooooo, that's something worse where it's obvious the one at fault there is Mizuhara. But i guess if that ends being a goodbye kiss (an "i loved you, never forget me" kiss), then it's her undoing the hawaiians spell because Kazuya is gonna keep being stubborn even without her around.
I'm talking about Chorizo closeting herself, ghosting him, treating him like a lowlife for pushing the hero button and disobeying her advices, grandma smacking him and threatening him with disown, Kibe going unga bunga on him, that shit.
It's simole af. Nobody had taught him how to channel that self destructive behavior

>>280618823
Nobody loves Kazuya for who he is, it's all about projection of everybody's darkest desires. Not even Chizuru who just sees him as a substitute of Katsuhito.
Only Mini, but seems it's a projection of him being everything she isn't (because she said she loses interest on things quickly).

>>280583640 (OP)
He's a whiny cuck who is paying a hooker that can't fuck him to string him around emotionally.

Rent a girlfriend is a grift, not a story. It's burnt far too many bridges, too many times to be taken seriously again. There's nothing left to fix.

>>280619336
It was a please fuck me kiss, she'll never let him go.

>>280619473
Being kissed by a money grubbing whore isn’t an achievement?

>>280619473
He understood it as a goodbye kiss.
Dud won't understand shit until she spells it out of frustration and as an ultimatum or does something OoC from her part like hugging him and not letting him go until he hugs her back.

Keep in mind Kuzuya still thinks she's Mizuhara and their interactions are ruled by Diamond ToS, so never expect him acting on his feelings unless she allows him to do so or tells him to forget the ToS.

>>280619509
For normies like us... it's tuesday.

>>280583691
>S-tier
Porn addicted cucks in denial sure love used goods women that reek of other men's cocks.

>>280619523
It really doesn't even matter what he thinks, she is going to fuck him.

Toubunfags, mostly ninokeks, felt being threatened and started shitposting

>>280619549
>she is going to fuck him.
And get pissed at him not reacting... even hurt if he asks why she does that.
Actions and words mean shit by themselves.

>>280619549
Then why hasn’t she? Does he need to pay her another 100 grand?

>>280619553
>Toubunfags, mostly ninokeks, felt being threatened and started shitposting
Shitsuturds starting flamewars in a kanokari thread of all places.

>>280583640 (OP)
>Why is this man so hated?

>>280618148
> The manga gets out of it's way to never show Chizuru with any of her real clients
HAHAHA I fucking KNEW it. Shounen romances really do baby their readers like the softest, most insecure losers imaginable. Just because the manga’s central theme is compensating dating, where the main girls whole shtick is being a professional girlfriend, doesn’t mean it’ll SHOW her at actual work because the readers would shriek bloody murder and threaten to burn the artist’s studio down. The compensating dating thing just ends up being a fake gimmick, it’s the normal vanilla mono-romance using forced relationship drama to keep the dramatic tension up and produce another hundred chapters. But actually show the main girls flirting and smiling towards another guy? Absolutely not happening, shounen romances aren’t that hard and I knew it without having to have read the manga because it’s an iron-clad pattern that not a single one of them can break out of.

>>280619599
He’s extremely killable

>>280619549
This fucking whore better not steal Ruka's man.

Well, reading this thread, I grow convinced this manga needs a bad end. For the sake of all of you. This is not healthy, that girl is not to be idolized, that man is not to be self-inserted as.

>>280619553
More like Yotsubland am I right?

>>280619565
>Does he need to pay her another 100 grand?
He has to just channel his self destructive impulses into doing something brave instead of his usual suicidally fearless big shit that only makes him look like an arrogant shit in Chizuru's eyes. But the retard either doesn't understand it or is too terrified because he has the impression she's a cunt that is ick'd by him trying to be affectionate and still sees him as Mizuhara (AKA still can't respect the ToS when she has stepped over them several times).

tl;dr dude is too terrified of Chizuru and still sees her as a RaG, he won't do something physically bold unless Chizuru erases the stop letters from the green stop sign and wrecks the red light she created herself with that rocky 1st meeting.

>>280619634
I'm not going to listen to someone who can't even make anything good.

>>280619629
Don't worry, it's going to be Mini who steals him from Ruka.

>>280619608
>Shounen romances really do baby their readers like the softest, most insecure losers imaginable.
Kanokari should have been a seinen or an upper threshold (16-18yo high school boys, basically KimiMachi or GE/DnK tier) shounen romance. Its full potential is being held back by still treating Kazuya's journey as if it was the journey to find the One Piece.

>>280619656
And Im not listening to someone who likes something this bad

>>280619629
He was never Ruka's, if anything it's Ruka who is going to try to steal him from Chizuru.

Reiji should have asked me for advices to make this interesting. My cuck story Karami Zakari is basically what he is aiming for.

>>280619565
>Then why hasn’t she?
Because she enjoys going on dates and flirting with a bunch of different guys and isn't interested in getting tied to a single guy. Even though she said multiple times she'd quit if she'd ever find a guy she likes, she won't. She'll only quit when she hits the wall and nobody will want her anymore.

Clearly he is going to fuck them all at the same time.

>>280619656
FIND A REAL GIRL
RENTAL GIRLS ARE ESCAPISM
ANIME WAIFUS ARE ESCAPISM
ANIME RENTAL GIRL WAIFUS ARE BEYOND THE LEVEL OF PARODY
THIS STORY CANNOT HAVE A HAPPY ENDING
IT WILL HURT YOU ALL
YOU

>>280589139
I know this is gonna be true.

>>280583640 (OP)
>>280583691
no
if you want the most retarded and worst character in the world ever, it's picrel
the faggot cu*k from rent a cunt isn't even top 5 when subhumaru, cuckabe, decuck, etc. exist

>>280619691
>if anything it's Ruka who is going to try to save him from Chizuru.
Ftfy.
She just wants to save him from the miserable dead end path he took, and she'll do it.
The resident goddess of salvation won't lose against some slutty angel of death again.

>>280600975
>Character voiced by Rie
>Massive shotacon
If the shoe fits...

>>280600831
>JP romcoms don’t go that hard, the reader has to be coddled like a baby simp
>It's a bad thing the story doesn't lean into NTRlike aspects
Ask me how I know you read Korean slop!

>>280619736
>Clearly he is going to fuck them all at the same time.
At most 2. The FeMC and her rival.

>>280619742
My dick is enormous and yours is small you loser.

>>280606008
>>280612396
>>280606311
Everyone likes Shinji, except maybe a handful of total retards.

>>280619753
How is Touma the most retarded again? Since when? I guess he has brain damage.

>>280619788
>Everyone likes Shinji, except maybe a handful of total retards.
More like a bunch of people pity him, while the other despise him either for being a bitch or an incel cuck who lashes out when he can't get what he wants.
Rebuild shinji doesn't count. He may be liked, but he isn't the OG Shinji.

>>280619790
He thinks running into naked women is bad luck for starters. He might actually just be gay.

>>280619753
>when subhumaru, cuckabe, decuck, etc. exist
They belong to the bad characters tier.
Cvckzuya belongs to a most abhorrent tier, the "characters that should have never existed" tier alongside SCVMji, Cuckji Cuckrose, Karami Zakari cuck MC, Nobita and the loser from that Not!zuya dates Not!kima manga.

>>280583640 (OP)
I want to rape him so bad

>>280619762
>rival
which one lol

>>280619291
>>280619416
>>280619540
>cuck this, cuck that
“I don’t want Mizuhara to love anyone else! Only me!!”
You homos have too much cuck on the brain, seek help.

>>280619956
Also him: getting boners thinking about other dudes fucking her.

>>280619553
You are probably joking but I read Twobuns after this and it was a massive downgrade.

>>280619983
You think about penis way too much fag.

>>280620000
I have to read that shit now then! How tf do you downgrade from this!?

>>280619665
>Kanokari should have been a seinen
But that already exists.

>>280620021
You’re scared of penis?

>>280619933
Ruka.

>>280583640 (OP)
I've never read it but gathering what I know from some shitposts: I think reading this is comparable to having that buddy with a horrible girlfriend who ruins his life in one way or another. Horrible cause of stress, maybe cheats. You've tried to get him to break up with her dozens of times and every time he says "yeah, I will," then doesn't.

>>280620031
Asukano wasn't a dark harem tho.

>>280619956
This manga would have been better if they just made her a straight up prostitute.

>>280620024
Even setting aside all the people who hated the girl who won for having the least amount of screen time, you have a bunch of really horrible writing like dream sequences and entire arcs that didn't actually happen just so they can tease the losers some more.

>>280620052
But it deserved 300+ chapters not Kanokari.

>>280620054
that manga already exists

>>280619983
Heartbroken arousal is really funny, genius Reiji knew how to earn quite a few yucks out of that one.

Haven't you thought in a simple thing...
Kazuya's dick didn't react to this kiss as how it reacted to Mami and Ruka's mouthrapes and Chizuru's kodomo kisses at hawaiians.

Seems he is confused or maybe he doesn't find Ichinose too enticing compared to Mizuhara. Imagine if his 1st time with a ready Chizuru fails because he's ED, but his dick works with other girls or with Chizuru's rental persona.

>>280620094
And no one seemed to care when it happened in chapter 1, it's just a forced meme by kids who want to be part of the cool group.

>>280620129
>he really expects 24/7 coverage of the penis
You want to fuck Kazuya don't you.

>>280620155
Honestly Kazuya feels like he be the kind of guy to break down crying halfway through, and not in a hot way.

>>280620204
>feeling and not thinking
Okay woman.

>>280620204
>the kind of guy to break down crying halfway through
That shit makes miserable girls feel aroused tho.

>>280585214
>putting their women on a pedestal
In the sense that they are considered precious but ultimately weak creatures to be protected and treated almost like a child, yes. Do you actually think traditional gentlemanly behavior was about being a simp?

>>280583691
He only said this because he was trying to break up with her there, btw.

>>280620278
>Do you actually think traditional gentlemanly behavior was about being a simp?
Hey, there's a difference in being a gentleman and being a simp.
Kekzuya (and other MCs) belong to the 2nd category: they do shit because of wanting to earn coochie points.

>>280620320
That's why all men do anything.

>>280619761
Have you read a Comoran Strike novel? It’s a detective novel series by JK Rowling under a pen name. They’re more like detective-themed romances which focuses on the main couple, Comoran and Robin. In the book I’m listening to now, the romance developments are:
Comoran signals a kiss while tipsy, Robin panics which Comoran takes as rejection.
Robin tries to signal that she hasn’t actually rejected him, but Comoran meets another woman during an investigation who looks a lot like Robin and proceeds to immediately fall into bed with her.
Comoran tries to keep his new girlfriend a secret from Robin but Robin finds out from Comoran’s first ex (who is very beautiful and Robin has an inferiority complex towards) about the relationship which enrages her.
After talking it over with a friend, Robin decides that she will respond to another man’s romantic overtures, in large part simply to make Comoran jealous. She’ll end up marrying him, continuing a pattern of marrying men she doesn’t love.
That’s a Western romance. Now compare with the kiddy trash in these shounen romances. Full of emotion, drama, and most importantly, characters making bad and immoral choices, acting selfishly — ie, REAL. Conflict is FUN. Baby simps spazzing out over how beautiful and pure and how he’ll accept anything about her forever just to be hit with forces excuses for why they simply can’t bet other is BORING.

>>280620330
Yet women chase those who don't do anything for them other than seeing them as walking pieces of leat that want to be plap'd and even for something like that, they don't try hard.
That's how people like Umi always win irl.

>>280620355
>That’s a Western romance.
For nip misery porn seinen romance authors and Kei Sasuga, it's tuesday.

Kekoo thread died.
Just watched the episode and found out Hiro hates Nagi and holds a grudge against him since middle school.

>>280620360
There is a reason they are picking guys who are not you, and us actual men understand cause and effect enough to know why.

>>280620441
You’re on 4chan. You’ve never seen a woman.

>>280620355
why are you acting like anyone cares about your trash

>>280618754
Is 385 and is going exactly as many have predicted by just going on this panel alone, she rejected him...but not definitely so she still leading him on and now she does this.
Retards will think that this is some kind of grand twist, but honestly is really hard to make sense of who actually read this, too many people who do it "ironically" or pretend to do it ironically because some people have lost touch with reality and what does it mean to sincerely enjoy something.

>>280620495
she is finally sending him an accurate message for once, that she wants to fuck

>>280620409
That's not what happened, but sure.

>>280620523
Sure, maybe you will see that....in 50 chapters oh oh oh implying,

Chizuru is going to get Ruka's sloppy seconds.

>>280620495
Nobody actually enjoys this anymore. There's one troll that pretends this is the greatest romance ever told that showed up after 380 dropped.
People are here either because are chained by sunk cost fallacy, or are actively hate reading it.
Actual enyojers got chased away when 218 dropped. The manga is a meme in normie circles.
If not for new anime seasons it would reached the same status as Hajimete no gal: "This garbage still is ongoing?" or kiss x sis where people were convinced it ended ages ago with sensei winning.

>>280589071
no

>>280620625
Same as Kazuya who will get Umi, Judai, the acting industry, the showbiz and customers' sloppy seconds.

>>280589071
That's the first time she kissed him of her own volition. Paradise kisses were coerced.

>>280620633
First actual kiss.
The other 2 were kodomomuke pecks at hawaiians and what happened back then in Shimoda was just Chizuru doing CPR because the retard blew his life away trying to save her, only to end looking pathetic in her eyes and make her ashamed for being unprofessional.

>>280620660
So the count is:
>Zuru: 1 (Shimoda and hawaiians don't count)
>Mami/Ruka: 2.
>Sumi/Hae: 0

>>280620676
>just Chizuru doing CPR
She calls it a kiss because only she knows that she really slipped him some tongue there too. Poor guy was unconscious.

>>280620625
Ruka is just crazy enough that she might actually drug him.

>>280620676
>>280620701
I already forgot about the CPR. but Hawaiian's was definitely a kiss kiss. but yes, this was the first private one, that wasn't forced by some circumstance

>>280620757
It was forced by her desire for babies.

>>280620757
>that wasn't forced by some circumstance
It was forced by Kazuya behaving like an insolent brat who's threatening his parents to keep disobeying them whether they like it or not.
She didn't do shit out of her own volition, but because she realized Kazuya is gonna keep being stubborn about her.

>>280620650
No

>>280620625
>Ruka's sloppy seconds.
No such thing because Ruka lost and BREAKUP ARC SOON

>>280620757
It was forced by Ruka being enough of a threat that she had to mark her territory, that's why they always show her as a cat.

>>280620825
Ruka is going to start renting Kazuya.

would

>>280620825
She will get her consolation prize sex before it's final though.

>>280620757
>first
of many

>>280620930
You ain't hearing me kiddo
There is no provisional W waiting for Ruka
No more kisses
No sex
Nothing
Nada
Zilch
Ruka is going to have to accept that Kazuya won't look in her direction the same way he looks in Chizuru's direction, she's going to breakup with him, let that bird fly free and apologise for how she's treated him.

>>280620809
Yes.

>>280621069
Even then she will just stalk him and schlick to them kissing.

>>280620050
This manga is dishonest, it makes it look like every selfdestructing thing Kazuya does is something brave and Chizuru's bullshit like ghosting him as something she does becuase she is just a lonely girl who doesn't understand love.

>>280620626
218 made it peak. The genius part about a long running series is that it doesn’t matter how many people drop it there was always be a new generation of readers (such as myself) that have never heard about it before that will pick it up.

>>280621114
You are just that one guy you can't fool me.

>>280621099
Sorry little guy....it's time your cuck fantasies are dying....just like you....

>>280621135
>your cuck fantasies
Ruka will keep them alive, you will see.

I can see Ruka trying to unleash her bankai only to job to Mami

>>280621181
People say this every year and she ends up doing nothing

>>280621129
nuh-uh I have my own gripes about this series I’m not that deluded

Mami is going to become his adopted daughter so that him and his girlfriend can have a child arc without having to wait for marriage.

>>280620626
>>280621129
>t-the defense posts are just 1 person!!
Lmao this amount of cope is cute.

>>280621113
>it makes it look like every selfdestructing thing Kazuya does is something brave
It isn't and he has gotten punished for being too brave or too stubborn or high on his horse.
>and Chizuru's bullshit like ghosting him as something she does becuase she is just a lonely girl who doesn't understand love.
The ghosting was Chizuru's punishment for Kazuya's actions at the pool. Remember she told him to get prepared because she wasn't gonna let him press the hero button again. If you didn't pick the hint and realized that meant she was gonna ghost him as a consequence for his reckless and stubborn determination to confess, then you should reread again.
Chizuru is a master liar and will put all the excuses to avoid accountability for her actions.
With all that shit in mind, this kiss doesn't come as Chizuru coming clear with her feelings through actions, but her realizing no matter what she does to push him away and towards Ruka, Kazuya will keep insisting and being a pest, so she did that so he can finally chill and stop pestering her. Knowing the patterns, this is a sayonara kiss, then she's gonna blacklist him and make everything at her hands to not cross paths with him at the campus 'till summer holidays come.

After a thorough rereading, the kiss felt like Mikako and Yuki's last kiss in Himegoto.

Let me guess, it's another story for women.

>>280621321
>Kazuya will become my father-in-law
Dire.

>>280621114
Issue is that there are series that can sustain that shit (HnI, Conan, OP, Berserk) because they have better worldbuilding and are character focused.
Kanokari fell into the same shit that killed Pokemon '97. Make everything revolve around the FeMC and push the reset button several times until it becomes inviable, just like Pokemon did by making everything revolve around Ash.
It even had a similar issue because its executive director (Kunihiko Yuyama, Takeshi Shudo's biggest dick rider) was too stubborn about keeping the formula going until the copyright owners CEO (Tsunekazu Ishihara), with evidence from the production commitee pointed how absurd keeping the status quo was and how that shit was affecting ratings and as a result, the sponsors trust in the series, finally convincing Yuyama to give up on Ash and move on.

>>280621385
>then she's gonna blacklist him
Your blacklist theory is dead, let it go

>>280621491
Written by a man who believes has more sensitivities than a regular male mangaka.

>>280621385
Don't lie, he hasn't been punished for anything, he hasn't been punished for lyimg to his family, for dating a girl he doesn't like becuase Chizuru told him to do it or for wasting his money, he even got help because he is reckless. The ghosting was about Ruka nothing about heros or anything like that.

>>280621385
>and make everything at her hands to not cross paths with him at the campus
She'll drop the braids and glasses disguise and start going to school as Mizuhara, tell everyone she dumped him and there will be nothing he can do anymore

>>280621573
>Your blacklist theory is dead, let it go
Bruh. The chapter ended with her kissing him and telling the cab driver to go. That shit doesn't mean she'll pursue him or is giving a green light to chase her he didn't understand. If chaptet ends like that, it simply means farewell.
It's gonna be like hawaiians. Kazuya will behave like a delusional and arrogant fuck over said kiss, only to be sent back to the reality hell by both being blacklisted or finding out she's dating Umi for some obscure reason it won't be revealed 'till the next arc 3/4rters.
The anime S4 OP may be a huge foreshadowing of what's gonna happen. Yeah, even Kazuya and Ruka becoming a bickering trial couple (they were shown incensed at each other arguing about some shit in the OP).

>>280621596
Bruh. Chizuru is a total liar.
You can't pretend the ghosting wasn't a punishment for his reckless and stubborn obsession when it's clear as water it was. She told him to get prepared because she wasn't gonna let him do the same. That was the foreshadowing for the ghosting.
Now there will be even bigger and nastier consequences. That's Miyajima's writing style.
The kiss doesn't come as Cgizuru's answer to the investigation, but as her trying to give Kazuya a metaphorical chill pill so he finally can be at ease and move on from her because the manbaby vowed to keep self destructing.

>>280621640
Okay so what's going to happen is the long awaited return of Sumi. Fumiki is going to pay Sumi to have sex with Kazuya while he is filming, and eventually everyone is going to see the video after it goes viral. This way she can overcome her shyness while at the same time they can make mad money off of the video.
This was foreshadowed by her saying she loves him that time when he didn't hear her.

>>280621640
She can still blacklist him and probably will if he try renting her again.
We don't know her answer to Umi and Kazuya even noted that in the chapter, that being said I doubt that will happen.
>The anime S4 OP
just stop, this is embarrassing

And don't forget the alien, you might have thought it was just a gag, but it was really just Reiji's genius writing style throwing you off.
You see the alien is real, and it is going to beam up the main cast and force all the girls to have sex with Kazuya.
If you didn't expect this that just proves that his plan is working.

Finally we have some serious discussion going on here.

>>280621833
But what about the villain from the renta rangers arc? Surely it's time for him to make another appearance.

>>280621895
That was the alien this entire time, see now you are starting to finally get it!

>>280621895
It's time for Tarou Urashima to make his grand comeback, He's an exorcist now and will exorcise Mami's haunted womb.

>>280586949
wlecome to /a/

>>280588619
a kiss after 300 chapters?!?!? whoa!!!

>>280621976
Tarou's return.
>Meets Kazuya, but instead of the plain looking everyday classmate, he's now an emaciated dying shit who has some terminal illness and has only weeks left.
>Kazuya finds out his story may somehow mirror Chizuru and his, gets angry at him for running away, forces him to say what he truly wants (see Mami a last time) and makes him get a moment of clarity on what he has to do.
>Kazuya vows something to Chizuru thru phone before telling her he has to finish some matters he didn't finish with Mami and once it ends, he'll come back to her, but not to Mizuhara.
>Forces Mami out of whatever shit happening against her will, and somehow manages at the last hour to reunite Mami with Tarou, not without experiencing hell first.
>Mami finds out what happened behind the break up, but is too late for him to make things go back as how they could have been because he's gonna die nevertheless, but Tarou's feelings were still there and that's enough to lift the curse that was placed upon him. Tarou dies, taking all the damage he caused to Mami with his lack of communication.
>Mami tells Kazuya "the actual truth" about him to let him go (that she hates him and Mizuhara, couples like them make her sick, he's an enemy to all females and actually meant it about destroy him and both of them should just die and never let her see their faces again), Kazuya, this time sees through her act (she's letting him go and won't pester them anymore) and tells her it's reciprocal. She vanishes from his life forever, choosing to atone by marrying Tooru, but not without letting him know the only people she loved are ded and she's only marrying him as a self penance, so he must not expect affection, neither intimacy from her part. This arranged marriage... is her life imprisonment sentence.

>>280583640 (OP)
>He's pretty much the typical college teen
No, I met a lot of retards in college and only two of them reached Reiji levels of pathetic and retarded

>cute boy stuck in a straight manga
Every time. I want to rescue Kazuya from those whores

>>280621640
>If chaptet ends like that, it simply means [Headcanon]
You fucking troglodytes spent days posting nonsense about Ruka, Umi,Chizuru going to the bank and blacklisting Kazuya, none of that shit happened, stop trying

>>280621385
>>280621732
Please just go run into traffic, these posts are so utterly ridiculous and completely disconnected from what's actually happening in the story it's pathetic

>>280583640 (OP)
He's a pathetic, groveling, woman-worshipping loser who has not changed one iota in a gazillion chapters. What's there to like?
Manga and anime are supposed to be entertainment. Cuckzuya is an entertainment vacuum.

>>280622729
Okay, Genko, we know you still seething from Reiji being straight.

>>280620050

Most men aren't desirable to women so if he breaks up with her he will be single for a long time. Most men won't want to deal with that so put up with the bad behavior just to stay in a relationship.

>>280620054

It would have made for a better story, but then they couldn't make her a pure virgin waifu love interest for the MC.

>>280620360

That's because those guys are hawt or rich so the women want THEM.

You acting like a rich hawt jerk won't get you as much pussy as you think it will

>>280623042
It wouldn't be better it would just be what people already think this manga is.

So, if this was a harem type romance, the main girl (Chizuru) would NOT be the most attractive, there would one other girl who is hotter, but who is also an irregular / uncommon member of the harem who only makes a serious play at getting the MC in the final arc. Maybe this manga could make use of that kind of development. Right now, no one can compete with Chizuru so the MC stays a committed simp. But what if a more attractive girl showed up? Half-white (apparently the absolute gold standard in JP beauty standards), even bigger rack, supermodel figure, etc. Someone who mogs Chizuru. Maybe this girl works the elite rich international clientele circuit normally, but for some reason came to work at the agency for a while, maybe to help someone else out. She meets the MC, and is immediately struck on how he doesn’t ogle her with lust which is a new experience for her so she takes an interest in him. She’s Chizuru’s superior in every single way. How will Mazuya take this attention? Well, obviously, he’ll continue to simp for Chizuru who is the main girl after all. This will make the fans APOPLECTIC with outrage at the worst girl winning, wouldn’t it? Even though it’s a classic harem development, just the fact that the MC continues to be a loser even in the face of gigantic upgrade would make you all go wild with rage.

>>280623042
>but then they couldn't make her a pure virgin waifu love interest for the MC.
Get in the new gynocentric trends. Now the main heroine has to be an overly traumatized used goods because true love has to overcome prejudices and mileage while the pure virgin side heroine has to be a psycho selfish menhera femcel obsessed with the MC because he's some sort of a walking dildo that makes her feel alive.
Ah, and the main heroine has to be seen and presented as the hottest, most mysterious, evilest and most diabolic temptress that will ruin MC's life, especially by the side heroine who will see herself as some sort of savior towards him.
Now true love isn't about clnquering a virgin before others, but about being true love if you accept everything from her, even her stains and past.

>>280623366
In a shounen romance? You’re delusional. You could have an entire harem on a sex island where it is ILLEGAL TO NOT HAVE SEX, and EVERY one of the girls will be a virgin. In a non-porn genre a non-virgin main girl is utterly unthinkable in Japan, only in shoujo and even then it’s uncommon.

He's relatable to normalfags, no doubt. That's why the manga has success.

>>280623441
>In a shounen romance?
Kimimachi, Domekano, Kimizero, Higehiro were all aimed at shounen demographics tho.
The shounen romance you're talking about is basically Shounen Jump romance, there are other magazines more lenient about mileage and shit.

>>280623287
>let's make this trainwreck even more bland by forcing tired cliches
no need chizuru is worst girl every other character mogs her

>>280623646
True, everyone knows the girl with smaller tits mogs the girl with bigger tits.

>>280624356
Shia LaBeuf is old and busted, just let it go.

>>280624356
Why's he wearing an Elder Kai shirt? Doesn't he usually wear New Balance shirts?

>>280624422
who?

>>280624431
He's only renting the shirt.

>>280624512
Even Stevens, the progenitor of Kazyua.

>>280619761
>doesn't lean into NTRlike aspects
>Get a chapter dedicated to Kazuyas fantasy of Umi cucking him
>Kazuya pops a boner at this

>>280625006
so he is a super chad?

>>280618672
They are finally official.

>>280625645
Lol no, next chapter the clock will reset

>>280583640 (OP)
Precisely because he's doing something incredibly pathetic that he's hated. Only pathetic people do what he would do. He's on the same tier as people who pay for OnlyFans, that is, not human.

>>280625733
He just said she is his girlfriend.

>>280585072
>gives thousands of dollars to a whore and lets her walk all over him

>>280585214
And they all died out.

>>280619788
Shinji isn't at all comparable to Kazuya. Shinji's personality and issues are actually understandable. Kazuya is 10 times more pathetic without any justification for it.

>>280625813
No he hasn't

>>280625932
Yeah he did, try reading it.

>>280583640 (OP)
I never got a boner in the pool while imagining getting cucked.

>>280625645
Grandma we are really dating, but for real this time.

>>280625645
Anon, are you ok?
Next chapter will be the beginning of the hell for Kazuya.

>>280583691
>literally pic-related
I didn't think my opinion of this franchise could get any lower.

>>280625645
The mad man did it.

>>280626327
He probably won't tell her.
>>280626572
More like she did it but good enough.

>>280626572
Kekzuya be like in front of UmiCHAD next arc.

>>280626572
Now he is going to do her.

>>280625645
Her: What? I only kissed you as friends.

>>280625645
Now he will be the one to kiss her next.

>>280623042
Just use the Danmachi approach and make her a pure slut

>>280618672
>return to the castle
Reiji be like, wana see em do it again?

>>280608952
No she wouldn’t you retard. No bitch who’s truly attracted to someone would fuck themselves over like that. There’s a reason why they weren’t dating even after 200 chapters and you should know it by now

>>280620891
cute

>>280588027
But that requires the author having a good idea of what high school kids are actually like. So much manga is centered around teenagers that I think some mangaka have forgotten what it was like to actually be a teenager, only writing their character as it because that's what's expected of them.

>>280607137
He’s just a shitty character with a great foundation ruined by Anno’s horrific execution. Replace Shinji with a similar but actually good character like Shinichi and Eva would’ve been improved greatly

>>280628135
Doors open come on in.

>>280628500
Writing about teenagers isn’t really the problem but depicting how a teenager responds to being in a romantic relationship is definitely the most difficult part for them to visualize. Even then it just shows how uncreative they are because there’s a large sample size of teenage romance stories to use for inspiration

>>280623366


It's true, the guy that "loves" a woman with all her flaws includes a huge past.

>>280627857


I mean making her work as a prostitute that ONLY gives out blowjobs but making her "technically" a virgin would at least make it semi interesting.

>>280630239
No by pure slut I meant she has a slutty job but never does anything. The fox hooker fainted before any sex happened so she’s still a virgin

>>280623588
NTA but Kimimachi, Kimizero and Higehiro are 3 out of 1000s of shonen romance that are literally pure virgin heroines, Domekano is debatable due to it being 2 heroines, one being a virgin and the other being a hag. They are not the norm, do you want me to list 100+ anime in the past 6 years that are all virgin heroine romances? I can do that if you want. Chizuru the god damn rent a girlfriend is a virgin somehow because "Japan" and "anime". If this was realistic Chizuru would of been with probably 50+ guys by now. You are being dishonest if you truly believe what you are stating as a reality.

>>280631161
yes list them, anything less than 100 and you lose

>>280631239
Oh boy, okay give me a little while. If I even get 99, I will concede.

>>280631268
anon...

>>280630837

I feel like if that were to happen the dudes would just take her while she was unconscious. I get what you mean though, like a bartender or girl that's a "dancer" that doesn't actually do anything with the customers.

>>280631239
2019-2025 (6 year timeframe, 100 virgin heroine romance genre and subgenre anime)
1.Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai: Tensaitachi no Renai Zunousen
2.Tenki no Ko
3.Go-toubun no Hanayome
4.Seishun Buta Yarou wa Yumemiru Shoujo no Yume wo Minai
5.Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka II
6.Kenja no Mago
7.Ore wo Suki nano wa Omae dake ka yo
8.Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai
9.Assassins Pride
10.Araburu Kisetsu no Otome-domo yo.
11.Date A Live III
12.Kawaikereba Hentai demo Suki ni Natte Kuremasu ka?
13.HELLO WORLD
14.Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san 2
15.Midara na Ao-chan wa Benkyou ga Dekinai
16.Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka: Orion no Ya
17.Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata Fine
18.Sora no Aosa wo Shiru Hito yo
19.Val x Love
20.Trinity Seven Movie - Tenkuu Toshokan to Shinku no Maou
21.Kanojo, Okarishimasu
22.Tonikaku Kawaii
23.Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Kan
24.Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka III
25.Nakitai Watashi wa Neko wo Kaburu
26.Josee to Tora to Sakanatachi
27.Kyokou Suiri
28.Uzaki-chan wa Asobitai!
29.Plunderer
30.Rikei ga Koi ni Ochita no de Shoumei shitemita.
31.Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei: Raihousha-hen
32.Kimi to Boku no Saigo no Senjou, Aruiwa Sekai ga Hajimaru Seisen
33.Kamisama ni Natta Hi
34.Monster Musume no Oisha-san
35.Dokyuu Hentai HxEros
36.Kud Wafter
37.Horimiya
38.Tokyo Revengers
39.Komi-san wa, Komyushou desu.
40.Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu 2nd Season Part 2
41.Ijiranaide, Nagatoro-san
42.Go-toubun no Hanayome ∬
43.Sekai Saikou no Ansatsusha, Isekai Kizoku ni Tensei suru
44.Jaku-Chara Tomozaki-kun
45.Kanojo mo Kanojo
46.Seirei Gensouki
47.Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki
48.Tantei wa mou, Shindeiru.
49.Shin no Nakama ja Nai to Yuusha no Party wo Oidasareta node, Henkyou de Slow Life suru Koto ni shimashita
50.Senpai ga Uzai Kouhai no Hanashi
51.Bokutachi no Remake
52.Sword Art Online: Progressive - Hoshinaki Yoru no Aria
(cont)

53.Cider no You ni Kotoba ga Wakiagaru (-)
54.Osananajimi ga Zettai ni Makenai Love Come
55.Kyuukyoku Shinka Shita Full Dive RPG ga Genjitsu yori mo Kusogee Dattara
56.Shinigami Bocchan to Kuro Maid
57.Shinka no Mi: Shiranai Uchi ni Kachigumi Jinsei
58.Megami-ryou no Ryoubo-kun.
59.Tsuki to Laika to Nosferatu
60.SSSS.DYNAZENON
61.Taishou Otome Otogibanashi
62.Ganbare, Douki-chan
63.planetarian: Snow Globe
64.Sono Bisque Doll wa Koi wo Suru
65.Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai: Ultra Romantic
66.Yofukashi no Uta
67.Kawaii dake ja Nai Shikimori-san
68.Komi-san wa, Komyushou desu. 2
69.Hataraku Maou-sama!!
70.Kanojo, Okarishimasu 2nd Season
71.Fuufu Ijou, Koibito Miman.
72.Aharen-san wa Hakarenai
73.Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka IV: Shin Shou Meikyuu-hen
74.Otomege Sekai wa Mob ni Kibishii Sekai desu
75.Go-toubun no Hanayome Movie
76.Kakkou no Iinazuke
77.Shijou Saikyou no Daimaou, Murabito A ni Tensei suru
78.Mamahaha no Tsurego ga Motokano datta
79.Kinsou no Vermeil: Gakeppuchi Majutsushi wa Saikyou no Yakusai to Mahou Sekai wo Tsuki Susumu
80.Bubble
81.Shikkakumon no Saikyou Kenja
82.Natsu e no Tunnel, Sayonara no Deguchi
83.Engage Kiss
84.Koi wa Sekai Seifuku no Ato de
85.Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki Part 2
86.Date A Live IV
87.Urusei Yatsura (2022)
88.Uzaki-chan wa Asobitai! ω
89.Fantasy Bishoujo Juniku Oji-san to
90.Soredemo Ayumu wa Yosetekuru
91.Renai Flops
92.Boku ga Aishita Subete no Kimi e
93.Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru
94.Tomo-chan wa Onnanoko!
95.Boku no Kokoro no Yabai Yatsu
96.Otonari no Tenshi-sama ni Itsunomanika Dame Ningen ni Sareteita Ken
97.Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka IV: Shin Shou Yakusai-hen
98.Kimi no Koto ga Dai Dai Dai Dai Daisuki na 100-nin no Kanojo
99.Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia
100.Ijiranaide, Nagatoro-san 2nd Attack
101.Koori Zokusei Danshi to Cool na Douryou Joshi
102.Kubo-san wa Mob wo Yurusanai
103.Saikyou Onmyouji no Isekai Tenseiki
(cont)

104.Tonikaku Kawaii Season 2
105.Suki na Ko ga Megane wo Wasureta
106.Masamune-kun no Revenge R
107.Jitsu wa Ore, Saikyou Deshita?
108.Kanojo, Okarishimasu 3rd Season
109.Seishun Buta Yarou wa Randoseru Girl no Yume wo Minai
110.Liar Liar
111.Otonari ni Ginga
112.Kaiko sareta Ankoku Heishi (30-dai) no Slow na Second Life
113.Kyokou Suiri Season 2
114.Seiken Gakuin no Maken Tsukai
115.Isekai wa Smartphone to Tomo ni. 2
116.Hataraku Maou-sama!! 2nd Season
117.Megami no Café Terrace
118.Konyaku Haki sareta Reijou wo Hirotta Ore ga, Ikenai Koto wo Oshiekomu
119.Kanojo mo Kanojo Season 2
120.Ayakashi Triangle
121.Shinigami Bocchan to Kuro Maid 2nd Season
122.GRIDMAN UNIVERSE
123.Tokidoki Bosotto Russiago de Dereru Tonari no Alya-san
124.Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu 3rd Season
125.Make Heroine ga Oosugiru!
126.Ookami to Koushinryou: MERCHANT MEETS THE WISE WOLF
127.Mato Seihei no Slave
128.Boku no Kokoro no Yabai Yatsu 2nd Season
130.Lv2 Kara Cheat datta Moto Yuusha Kouho no Mattari Isekai Life
131.Giji Harem
132.Dosanko Gal wa Namara Menkoi
133.Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka V: Houjou no Megami-hen
134.Gimai Seikatsu
135.Maou no Ore ga Dorei Elf wo Yome ni Shitanda ga, Dou Medereba Ii?
136.Yozakura-san Chi no Daisakusen
137.2.5 Jigen no Ririsa
138.Shin no Nakama ja Nai to Yuusha no Party wo Oidasareta node, Henkyou de Slow Life suru Koto ni shimashita 2nd
139.Oroka na Tenshi wa Akuma to Odoru
140.Jaku-Chara Tomozaki-kun 2nd STAGE
141.Kekkon Yubiwa Monogatari
142.Date A Live V
143.Kimi to Boku no Saigo no Senjou, Aruiwa Sekai ga Hajimaru Seisen Season II
144.Dekisokonai to Yobareta Moto Eiyuu wa, Jikka kara Tsuihou Sareta node Suki Katte ni Ikiru Koto ni Shita
145.ATRI: My Dear Moments
146.Urusei Yatsura (2022) 2nd Season
147.Shinigami Bocchan to Kuro Maid 3rd Season
148.Hamidashi Creative
149.Sono Bisque Doll wa Koi wo Suru Season 2
150.Kimi no Koto ga Dai Dai Dai Dai Daisuki na 100-nin no Kanojo 2nd Season
(cont)

151.Class no Daikirai na Joshi to Kekkon Suru Koto ni Natta.
152.Yofukashi no Uta Season 2
153.Danjo no Yuujou wa Seiritsu suru? (Iya, Shinai!!)
154.Haite Kudasai, Takamine-san
155.Seishun Buta Yarou wa Santa Claus no Yume wo Minai
156.Kono Kaisha ni Suki na Hito ga Imasu
157.Nihon e Youkoso Elf-san.
158.Summer Pockets
159.Okinawa de Suki ni Natta Ko ga Hougen Sugite Tsura Sugiru
160.Kanojo, Okarishimasu 4th Season
(end)

>>280633016
Holy shit

>>280583640 (OP)
Just speaking from the outside looking in, but Ithink that chapter where he gets a boner due to a cuckold fantasy in the pool singlehandily ruined him. Don't even know the context of it, but I don't think it would save him even if I did. Probably would make it even worse

>>280633230
He was being body jacked by aliens.

>>280633230
It’s not too late to redeem himself even from such a retarded decision but only a 10 chapter orgy with his harem could do it

>>280633964
>decision

>>280632260
Yeah that’s why everyone called it a retarded plot point but a stripper who only strips for the MC would’ve worked

>>280583691
WTF?

>>280586230
/thread

>>280583640 (OP)
Literally me.

>>280619820
I like shinji and he is one of the best MC japan has ever produced, he is amazing at the start and the ending of the story its the middle where he is mediocre because the show forgets all the develoment he had until that point.
Also he has bigger balls than you and this entire website 3 favorite girls in anime wants his dick after saving them and the whole world multiple times, the only people who still spout the "get in the robot shinji XD pussy" are the people who saw themselves in shinji but hated him because shinji outgrew them.
Shinji is wanted and loved, faces his own fears and rejects escapism, shinji proved to anyone that it doesnt matter how shitty life is or how much you hate yourself there is always hope as long as you want to improve yourself and matters into your hands, shinji is anti-anon.

>>280633131
A few should probably be removed.
Kyokou Suiri
Kyokou Suiri Season 2
Sekai Saikou no Ansatsusha, Isekai Kizoku ni Tensei suru
Sword Art Online: Progressive - Hoshinaki Yoru no Aria

and especially Kaiko sareta Ankoku Heishi (30-dai) no Slow na Second Life.
They even have a son in this one, Gran.

>>280586230

He honestly has more charm and charisma than many self-inserts is the funny thing.

>>280636768
Not really

>>280636358
Why worlds finest assasin and sao? I guess asuna isnt a virgin because kirito banged her but why worlds finest assasin? I dont even remember sex.

>>280637007
I guess it's more implied in the anime, but happened in episode ten.

>>280633230
He's in love with a girl that goes on dates with other dudes for money. All that fantasy did was take his love to the logical conclusion: he would like to see his girl get POUNDED even if it wasn't by him!

If you watch porn you're basically a cuck

>>280586230
>because he's a guy who won't win the girl and it hurts them to self-insert.
big fag cope the problem is that he will get the girl and all his retarded decisions will be shown as correct
>>280636768
now this is just pathetic

>>280583640 (OP)
Im watching the second episode and he
>Has the courage to ask her out on a proper date

That right there puts him above most of the people in this thread making fun of him. He also has a lot of scenes where he admires her personality. Maybe it's not as obvious in the manga but in the anime it's obvious he likes her personality as well. Even her laugh makes him happy

I just realized that if this wasn't an anime where every girl is a virgin, dude would probably be pressing his ear against the wall hearing her getting FUCKED while jerking off.

>>280633016
Are these confirmed virgins or just assumed?

>>280583640 (OP)
Haven't read in 2 years
Is he still being friendzone by the slut?

>>280639387
>Is he still being friendzone by the slut?
She severed ties with him with that kiss.

>>280639584
lmaooooooo

>>280639387
no

>>280583640 (OP)
he is hated because he never learns, and he has a decent alternative in Ruka and never takes it.

>>280638562
>people
person

>>280637684
>If you watch porn you're basically a cuck
kek, you're probably shitposting but this is the ultimate blackpill as to why porn is. bad. If you are getting off to other men fucking a girl you find attractive, then yes you are a cuck and yes you shouldn't watch porn

>>280636768
obviously

The reason why Reiji is called niwatori by 5ch nips
>This is a derogatory term for the author of this manga, as he seems to make a lot of mistakes, resetting his depictions of emotions, forgetting what he has written,
>(It comes from the saying that chickens forget things after walking a few steps)

>>280636101
This shit is getting ridiculous. People who claim to be true Eva fans are retards whose interpretations of the show are based on memes like "it's anti-otaku". Shinji's not a fucking role model. He's not special. In both the TV ending and EoE, he has to be talked into giving life another change after giving up. Because he doesn't find satisfaction in the alternative. There's nothing there for him in Instrumentality. He doesn't really know what he wants and is afraid to find out. It's like someone quitting a job because it's "stressful" just to sit around all day bored doing nothing. He may as well go back and change his approach. The ending is really just the new beginning and he's as clumsy as ever. If anything, Anno is conveying that Shinji is no better or worse than anyone out there who relates to him.

Also this idea that characters are despised for being "too relatable" is horseshit. You faggots love these characters, especially when they're more idealized or put in wish fulfillment scenarios. And people have legitimate reasons to dislike characters as they would dislike certain people irl, and that's often something predicted by creators. You pseuds think the writers of King of the Hill didn't know audiences would find Peggy annoying? They knew this and that was fine with them. In Shinji's case, he's hated by people who can't empathize with him or refuse to. Though I doubt that really matters. I'm sure Anno knew Shinji would be a difficult protagonist to enjoy because he was putting so much of himself into the character and the show, including what he hated. If anything, he's testing the audience to accept Shinji in all his ugliness. Take him or leave him. Who cares if not everyone likes a character? Who cares if not everyone likes (You)? Grow up.

Kazuya is hated because he has the best girl simping for him and he proceeds to ignore her and mistreat her and why? Because he fell in love with the most popular whore

>>280638562
>Im watching the second episode and he
>>Has the courage to ask her out on a proper date
What are you talking about? Doesn't he only rent her early on, no way the girl actually would hang out with him without the pretense of renting?

>>280634553
Aw yes, I remember bike cuck. That was fun. I wonder what hes doing now?

>>280641612
He keeps doing comics and pretents that nothing happened regarding the bike cuck incident, and honestly it was the smart thing to do

>>280642900
>regarding the bike cuck incident,
There was an incident? I thought it was just a comic.

>>280639823
>and he has a decent alternative in Ruka and never takes it
this is always such a weird and common argument about male mcs because you really can't choose who you fall in love with

>>280643288
Well, not so a much an incident but rather all the jokes that people made at his expense

>>280639387

I'm an anime only fag and yes.

>>280637938
>>280636940
At least in the anime he is able to do heroic things like jump off a boat and ask women out. He's unironically more socially adjusted than a lot of the people watching the show. He's still pathetic and weak, but that shows how weak and pathetic the people watching the show are.

>>280583691
every time I see a page from this manga I spend 5 incredulous minutes trying to figure out what series of thought processes could possibly lead someone to want to read this

>>280641461
I'm sorry I meant second episode of the fourth season. I found that if I read a show that's still airing I can't enjoy it I'll just compare it to the manga

I honestly don't know why this rent a person (rent a girlfriend, rent a father, or recently even rent a daughter) is a thing in east asia.
Are nips, chinks and gooks that cucked or that lonely?

>>280646197
More like they are shrewd business people.

>>280646197
>why is this rent a person is thing
It's therapy for unconfident people without actually being therapy. Also serves as a way for companionship. Which is really weird for the people working those jobs.
Do they just maintain a permanent companionship with every customer that they've ever met?
Or is not allowed for them to form even basic friendly contact with someone they have done service for?

The problem with this MC is that he used it for love therapy and the rental person stupidly tried fix him not realizing how obvious it is that he could easily fall in love with his own therapist. And if Chizuru is treating it this way then it would make sense that she has to continue to keep tabs on her other clients if she's trying to "fix" them too.

People on /a/ hate him for being a mega simp, but then watch and donate to vtubers

>>280647477
Idk it would be weird to have a rental father and have no reason to chat with each other outside of shift if you two had commonality.

>>280639939
That's retarded.

>>280648231
How?

>NEW CHAPTER LEAKS
>INSTA-KINO
KINO REIJI BASED

>>280648332
You don't focus on the guy when watching porn unless you are gay.

>>280648332
Basic porn being cuckoldry is retarded.
You're not attached to the girl in any way you are simply watching a stimulus for a carnal sensation.

>>280645564

I mean it's an anime about a simp. Every young man should read it so they know not to be a fucking simp.

>>280646197

Tons of people are lonely and just want someone to hang out with. Lots of dudes are actually happy having dates just to have something to do.

>>280647566

Correct, and those women are all over 30 and roasties. At least Mizuhara is a virgin. These simps are giving their money to a woman getting FUCKED every night by another guy.

In a way, they're just as big of a cuck as the protagonist in Rent a Girlfriend.

>>280648741
>At least Mizuhara is a virgin
Oh you’re one of those people. Nice try.

>>280645451
>jump off a boat
That was a stur of the moment action for someone he had feelings for. It's the same as Deku running to the rescue of his bully crush: a brave action but not something really unique as it is very conceivable that anyone would risk themselves for someone dear to them, as opposed to a complete stranger or someone they hate or something. Whether they actually would is another matter but knowing what people of all sorts are capable of, it's ridiculous to count them out or hold up a fictional person who acts any way some Japanese dude wishes over their heads.

Extolling all the things that a character nothing special while glossing over the things that actually make the character provocative is some serious dipshittery.

>>280639387
She explicitly told him she prefers being a whore than to date him.

>>280649148


What do you mean by this?

>>280583691
She's an average bitch who's just trying to make a living. Simp

>>280650399
>She's an average bitch who's just trying to make a living
...that he can't date. He was giving her one last glaze before breaking it off with her for good.

>>280650526
That's not the context of that scene.
He rented her so she would go on a date with his buckteeth friend, essentially it was him exposing them to him just as his rental girlfriend exposed herself to Kazuya earlier, which may be one of the only selfless thing he did for someone other than Chizuru.

In context it just is him being ready for the moment he finally get exposed for real.
In reality he was not prepared for getting exposed, but it was meaningless anyway because he never suffered any consequences because of his lies, the whole basis for this story was pointless, him stressing about getting discovered was pointless, I hate the Hawaiians arc, not for chapter 218, not for how long it is and how it fucked up the pacing of the series. I hate it for how it undermined everything before it and how it's consequences or lack there of permeate the story now and how nothing that happens now can be taken seriously, because Reiji can and WILL write it off in a single chapter: like the ghosting and the rejection. this is how the story will be from now on and it's the only reason he can continue it in perpetuity: Nothing outside of the present matters.

>>280626441
cope

did we not have a chapter thread for 385 yet?

>>280625328
What?

>>280650984
pretty sure we have a pseudo-general since leaks for 380 dropped, which may be concerning

>>280650921
you tried

>>280650921
The context was quite literally for breaking it off with her, and ceasing renting. I mean you said it yourself, he was doing it to practice saving face for when he would tell everyone they broke up.

The problem is she would keep interacting with him the day after and even bought him a free date with the shy redhead. He only flipped on the no-renting thing when he became certain of his desire for her at chapter 50 during the "I want you" scene.

Ruka is dying

>>280651025
Is it a stupid line? Yes. Is it used out of context to show how he is a cuck? Yes.
Does the context make him an even bigger cuck? Yes. Does it matter to the story? No and nothing else matters either.

It's just funny that the reputation this manga has comes not from it's shitty writing, but few out of context pages.
Like how people are convinced he was renting her every week through 2 years and somehow spend 250K on her even though he was only renting her every week when his granny was in the hospital and she left the hospital in one of the early volumes.

>>280651019
damn, do you know where it was dump? i wanna see the reactions to the kiss

>>280651151
>The context was quite literally for breaking it off with her,
It's not, that comes a bit latter and it's his reaction to her saying she might be quitting the job soon, because she might get a role in a stage play. This was entirely to cheer up Kuri.

>>280650921
>I hate it for how it undermined everything before it and how it's consequences or lack there of permeate the story now and how nothing that happens now can be taken seriously, because Reiji can and WILL write it off in a single chapter: like the ghosting and the rejection. this is how the story will be from now on and it's the only reason he can continue it in perpetuity: Nothing outside of the present matters.
You just don't get it.

>>280651249
probably this one >>280555498

>>280651280
Enlighten me how them lying again after getting exposed and everyone accepting it without question is ok, when all the tension in the story(and in the arc as well) was build upon them getting exposed?

>>280651257
>It's not
It is, but you want the narrative to be that he is a cuckold who shares girlfriends with his friend because you're brain broken. He said it in realization that she would no longer be his, hence preparing to break it off with her.

>>280651295
ah that's why i didnt find it, i searched "kanojo" on desu. Thanks man

>>280651313
Why would what they think matter?
It's not their love, they don't get a say.
>I consent
>I consent
>I don't
>Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?
Actually doing the meme for real? What a joke.

>>280651350
>Why would what they think matter?
Why would it matter to his parents that he spend all the money they gave him on a whore, I don't know.
Why would it matter that he was flaunting his girlfriend in his friends eyes for 2 years when it was just a rental: you'd think his friend circle would have a bigger reaction and made fun of him, or rent her to have some fun time with his "girlfriend".
Why would Chizuru getting exposed as a rental matter, right? Well because everyone in college would know, that was Her concern at least, that's why the disguise existed in the first place.
Why would Ruka still exist when everything got exposed? How would her lies hold up to scrutiny anymore, who is she to Kazuya or Chziuru anyway?

Everything got swept under the rug with: yeah she is a rental and she didn't quit when we started dating, but it's ok, because we are dating now, perfect.

>>280651513
>It's not their love, they don't get a say.
If they keep trying to get you to back off, people generally will because of the above.

>>280651334
>. He said it in realization that she would no longer be his
a couple chapters after the Kuri incident and Sumi's introduction:
yeah he surely looks like someone who thinks it's all over and it's time to move on.

>>280642900
He alludes to it now and then, and acknowledged it was pretty stupid.

>>280583640 (OP)
Reiji is the biggest troll ever.

>>280651634
Hey heelschizo, how have you been?

>>280651577
>It's a love story, so nothing other than them loving each other matters.
No, that's weak, not when most of the conflicts are about them trying not to get exposed.
Then they got exposed and it turns out it never mattered.

Because if you take this at face value: Ruka and Mami getting shafted actually makes sense: they are irrelevant and always were.

>>280651698
>no argument
lul

>>280651741
We got a big climax scene, that's something that matters.
>parents
Worth it for the marriage.
>Kuri
Already knows
>Kibe
It mattered enough to punch him, you can't expect more than that.
>everyone in college would know
They don't actually know about the rentals, that part didn't circulate.
>Ruka
The friends thing still holds.

>>280651840
>that part didn't circulate
how convenient

>>280651901
Who did you expect to be saying that kind of thing?

>>280651350
Someone do the meme, but with Kanojo characters to make it easier for rukafags to finally understand.
I only have this template

>>280652060
She suffered a moral defeat due to the counterattack, getting involved further only causes her pain.

>300 chapters for a goodbye kiss from a whore
So this is the power of romcoms...

>>280651939
They at least know Ichinose is Mizuhara and that she is an actress and again nobody looked up anything about her. How is it that only ever Mami googled her name.

>>280652128
No, just this one.

>>280652173
This isn't a romcom, but a misery porn character drama with romcom tinted goggles.

>>280652262
Ty.

>>280652157
Kibe only calls her Chizuru, they are going to be googling her real name.

>>280652276
That's actually a great way to put it.

>>280652357
I was mostly thinking about this

>>280652422
Just hiding a relationship because she is shy, nothing to see here.

>>280652432
>Yeah, let's just not talk about it
I guess nobody cared that much. It really makes Kazuya agonizing about them getting exposed ridiculous in retrospect.

>276
Is Chizuru serious about becoming a successful actress?
She's not being serious about anything, living with a man and posting her face on a nightlife website
She says she got into rental girlfriends to practice her acting, but does she only intend to appear in romance dramas?
It would be easier to get into an agency or audition for a show, but she hasn't even been scouted, right?
She attracts so many attentions when she walks around.
>277
From next week onwards, it'll be "What was that kiss about?"

It's a manga that really doesn't progress...
>269, rep to 256
Kissing a man you're not even with in public without consent

Where's the class in that?

Vulgar words are the perfect word for it.
>256
What are you talking about? Ruka was never impressed by Kuribayashi, and Kuribayashi had only supported Ruka in the past, and their relationship was settled in the Hawaiians arc. As for Mizuhara's kiss, how was it a farewell kiss? She was right, "I love you, but we can't go out yet," and in the end, she couldn't resist responding to Kazuya's feelings, so she responded with a kiss. I don't like it when someone uses two vulgar kanji characters to describe sexual desire, which is a physical expression of a connection of the heart.
>249, rep. tp 244
Maybe she could use the "I'll do anything for you" ticket to make Kazuya and Ruka have sex just once. That would be Mizuhara's way of taking responsibility for recommending Ruka to Kazuya, and that would become into >>244.
>244
Since the last crowdfunding campaign, we can't treat Ruka carelessly anymore, so if we want to increase her value and end the story on a good note, wouldn't it be more exciting and enticing to have someone die? That's what I was saying, and I just suggested that if the only option left was an irregular Ruka who gave birth to Kazuya's child and then died, then she could essentially be the winning heroine.

Nips being cynical and open about the future. They think Chiz may never date Kaz until she retires

>>280652472
No one cares heelschizo.

>>280652472
>From next week onwards, it'll be "What was that kiss about?"

That's funny actually, since the whole investigation started when he asked her if the kiss meant something. She told him she may like him. Kissed him again. So he can't really fall back on: "What do you mean?" anymore.

>>280652472
>241
Either way, if it sells, it's a win. The latest volume, which is a hot topic and also has a special edition, has both numbers, and if you add them up, it'll probably go up for the first time in a while. There's also a boost from the 4th season of the anime.
>246, rep to 241
Apparently the 4th season of the anime is currently airing () but I can't find any of the previously published volumes in POS...
I thought the boost from the 4th season would make it a huge seller, right? lol
All previously published volumes of Kaoru Hana are in POS, so stop being so ignorant lol
>240
If Ruka dies, the plot twist about her arrhythmia will be resolved -> she will have sex with Kazuya for the first and last time -> she will give birth and die -> Kazuya and Mizuhara will raise Kazuya and Ruka's child
Well, this is also an option though
>237, rep to 233
I'm getting more and more confused about how to use the "I'll do anything for you" coupon. If she really wanted to make Kazuya give up, she should have used it, but since she didn't and even kissed him, it's not possible for now, but if he waits, there's a chance. However, there's no way that Ruka could get away with it, and for Mizuhara, who recommended Ruka, anything she says to Ruka will be met with reason. In order to move the story forward from here, they need to resolve the hint of Ruka's arrhythmia (in this manga setting, regardless of whether she's cured in real life or not), so it's up to Ruka and Kazuya to decide how they feel about it. I don't think she'll die, but even if it's temporary, there's no way they could make her give up after being with her for almost two years, and if they were to do that, I'd like them to use about 10 volumes.
>236
Even the comments on Magapoke are getting rough

>>280652482
Not him, retard.
Japanese opinion matters the most, this manga is catered towards them, not us.
>>280652551
>233
Ruka definitely won't die. The crowdfunding campaign seems like it's going to be a success, so there's no way she'd do something like that. Someone on this board commented that Chizuru gave Ruka a voucher to do anything for her, and Ruka married Kazuya, and made him happy. That seems possible in the current Kanojo, Okarishimasu.
>231
It's true that the reason why Zuru's Father doesn't appear is probably because he's simply been forgotten, because the author isn't a human being but a niwatori with no memory.
>202
Come to think of it, in the works of Shin Kibayashi (the author of Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo and other works), when a couple is about to form, one of them often dies or commits a crime and gets caught.

The relationship between Kazu and Chizu is similar to that.
Well, since it's a romantic comedy, I don't think there will be obvious deaths or police involvement, but with the incident with Sayuri, I can't say for sure.
>201
It's okay because Ruka is here, Kazu won't be sad because he has me.
>192
Wouldn't it be better for the teacher to kill the heroine in a traffic accident?
If that were to happen to Chizuru, I'd cry more than when Kazuya got NTR.
>154
New chapter: Yaemori is the main heroine. Bitch vs. Yaemori.
>147
I might like you
but I can't date you yet
I'm sorry sorry
kiss

Huh?
>145
Kissing the morning after being rejected doesn't make sense if you think about it normally, but I understand it perfectly well. Kazu said he'd wait forever, and he didn't hide anything, so Mizuhara responded instinctively and honestly. She loves Kazu, but right now she has a mountain of problems to deal with at work and in life, so she just doesn't have the time to build a happy future with Kazu.

Because...
>141
Taxi kiss rape criminal
A girl who wants me to continue giving her money
An evil woman who makes me feel sick, even worse than Mami

>>280652704
Cool story heelschizo.

>>280652734
>cherry-picking and samefagging like usual

>>280652754
It's all so obvious.

>>280652704
>139
They delete any critical comments on X, so they don't have the capacity to take criticism.
>133
He was supposed to go with "Sorry" this time and move on to a new ch. but as expected, he got some requests from his fans, so he suddenly added a kiss scene. Of course, he's planning to reset it, so he doesn't think about anything too deep. Anyway, that's about it ('ω'`)
>118, the zurukichi simp
The 7-page kiss shows just how strong her feelings are, and it was a divine episode that changed history, giving me goosebumps. I can't get the shock of the taxi kiss out of my head, it completely took my heart. If you think about it normally, kissing the morning after being dumped doesn't make sense, but I understand it. Kazu said he'd wait forever, and he didn't hide anything, so Mizu instinctively and honestly responded. I love Kazu, but right now i have a mountain of problems to deal with at work and in life, so I just don't have the time to build a happy future with Kazuya.(picrel)
Kazu himself will be confused.

Mizu, who never kisses someone she doesn't like because her reason and true feelings are out of sync, proves that she likes Kazu.

I hope Kazu can properly notice Mizu's human side, who is not perfect.

I don't think it was a goodbye kiss because it's just how I see it, but it annoys me when they says it's a kiss to keep him.

Magapoke and X comments are being noisy and saying she's a bad girl and it's meaningless.

As Kazu said in his review, Yaemori's presence was big. The atmosphere in the cohabitation arc was really good, so Yaemori is indispensable.

It was the perfect ending to the cohab arc, and it was a wonderful development that surpassed the CF encouragement date, so now I just want to bask in the afterglow.

Btw, it's not the final chapter, it's a new chapter.

I think that from here on out, they'll seriously depict a new and innovative form of romantic comedy where you like someone but can't date, so I can't help but look forward to it.

>>280652734
>>280652754
>>280652760
>spotted the samefag.
Not cherrypicking when 5ch/X/Magapoke are being cynical about the chapter, just picking the comments worth of being posted.
If you want to be deluded about chapter being greatly received, then that's your choice. But what i have seen is that only the most extreme or deluded zuru-otakus are eating this chapter, while the rest of nips are skeptical at best, cynical mostly and derisive at worst

>>280652851
>no u
no u
>Not cherrypicking
> just (cherry)picking the comments
Holy shit you are retarded.

>>280652811
>they'll seriously depict a new and innovative form of romantic comedy
Forgot to comment this shit because of characters limit, but that "new and innovative form" of romantic comedy is called "misery porn" and "telenovela".
Kazuya and Chizuru's motif is Tanabata.

It's kinda obvious where this story is going, Reiji is just being faithful to his og script for this. Kazuya will be allowed to have 2 types of love, the one who's gonna stay by him and the one he will see in secret and unleash all his emotions, but can't constantly have because of being starcrossed by the rental job and acting. This manga has talked about the types of love in the past, so it's possible. Even if Chizuru can't be his gf, neither marry him, she can be his lover until shit gets out of control.

>>280652906
Cherripicking the best ones.
Too much "neet lol" bot posting, inner flamewars between the kichis and shittalking Miyajima for being a forgetful niwatori.

>>280652964
>I only post what I agree with
Don't bother.

>>280653000
Did you see the zuru defenders posting.

All nips there think their relationship is starcrossed, no one thinks they are gonna hit it off and become an official couple in the next arc.
If by some reason they became lovers who sporadically meet when there's no one and nothing that can bother them, but at the same time they have to deal with beard couples, then consider yourself lucky, because that's the best you'll get from them.

>>280652944
>Kazuya will be allowed to have 2 types of love,
not 3? new shitpost?

>>280653070
Heelschizo having a melty

>>280653087
Nothing to do with the 3 greatest loves theory.
He'll have the tatemae couple (either trial or cosplayer) and the honne lover (the rental). Next arc will end with Kazuya and Chizuru having sex and then part ways as usual... once again starcrossed by their respective lives.

>>280653111
Said the one who's been melting since 2 weeks ago.
Anon, just accept whatever shit they could have is nigh forbidden.

>>280653144
>no u

kanokari general joining /dbs/ when?

>>280653215
Better if it joins /csm/

>>280653215
They will probably fire the janny doing that instead.